Ok, it's time I started serious work on this. What would you guys prefer? A randomised team (maybe CA/PA/position could be predetermined), or a full submission like in 01/02 days?

Also, please do write down anything you'd like to add for me to consider. I'll definitely take any idea into consideration.

How many stats are there that would need submitting by players ruud?

I'd suggest some kind of mix between the two. as in have technical, physical and the majority of mental abilities to be random but with predetermined CA. But then maybe have a selection of mental attributes (such as aggression etc.) and maybe others such as loyalty to be selected by the applicant, although if they're all ridiculously high the mod has the right to lower some.

CA and PA i think should be judged on each member's post count, reputation and how often they're specifically on the FM forum.

But then maybe have a selection of mental attributes (such as aggression etc.) and maybe others such as loyalty to be selected by the applicant, although if they're all ridiculously high the mod has the right to lower some.

Just have a points total which can be split between each stat like in previous years.

I don't think completely randomised stats be much fun. Like i'd like to be given high determination, pace, acceleration and strangth. Because Those are my strengths. It'd make the game the game more personal'

Say if you could post 5 stats which are to be your strengths. Then your potential ability could be decided on random, but based on how known you are.

For instance- Post count 18,000, well known. Pot ability between 170-190. Or something like that.

I dont think post count should be taken into account. It should either be first come first served like a few years ago, or categorized like last year.

Post count alone is no reason to give someone high CA/PA. I'd never give someone like Silencer high CA/PA if he'd sign up, even though he has like 12k posts. Quality before quantity.

well then we should use the judgement of the "senior" members of the FM forum to judge PA :p

I think the way it was done last year is the best way; choose a few stats(2 or 3 or somethin') which are set to 16/17 as default and the rest all randomised.

I think the way it was done last year is the best way; choose a few stats(2 or 3 or somethin') which are set to 16/17 as default and the rest all randomised.
I agree with that one.

But I also think we could use our usernames here on SG instead of our real names. Since our usernames here are our "SG names" if you understand me. And also because then everyone know who each player on the team are on the forum (since not all know everyone's real name). ;)

I cant believe you still have the strength to do this again this year man! lol
Anyways, just come online on messenger some times. Might figure out a way how i could.. give you an extra hand.

Someday... no promises, though. Maybe monday.

I agree with Zlatan. But maybe 5 or 6 attributes to be made strong like 15 instead of just 2 or 3.

I would like to do another SG team, i could help if its wanted

Just have a points total which can be split between each stat like in previous years.

It'll be a pain for Ruud and co. to count the total points :(

Just give us 20 for everything :p, with the handyman option (H)

I liked last year's system, it seemed to work alright... made a good challenge to take the team to promotion, compared to previous versions... I don't know how much of a trouble Ruud had to get the CA/PA stuff done though...

yes!, my vote puts Submission form in the lead 4 to 3.

i agree with nor-rbk, i don't know how tedious it would be but like everyones username could be put in as their nickname, with their real name in the profile if they wanted to give it.

Voted for random.

Yeah but than you think like WTF?Zlatan in SG United? :p
No just keep it at the real names, if really necessary you can set the username in the real name or something.

Doesn't take me long at all to decide on CA (current league) / PA (well, high enough to have a good fight for european spots in the long run without it becoming too easy), as I have already performed segmentation on the lot of you, give or take a few.

How about leagues btw? League 2 sounds good to me, plus I sort of have everything for the club attuned to it right now.

SG United should be renamed to AC Dello Soccergaming and placed in SerieC2, or Soccergaming Sport Verein, german regional division, or CSKA Dynamo Spartak Soccergamingski in Russia

or Al Soccagahhati in Qatar

Torpedo Soccer Gaming :(

League 2 sounds good though

Just voted for random, following info I got from Ruud on the other thread... a full submission, imho, would enable players to "abuse" the game, like everyone choosing to have 20 pace and 20 acceleration... not to mention the amount of work needed...

as for the league, I guess League 2 is good enough... but that's because I always play with an english side... a different country would be good, but it'd have to be Italy or Spain, maybe Germany, as players will become good, and they'll want to move to "bigger" clubs.. being in a big league is a way to keep them, though I can be totally wrong here...

having our SG name on nicknames is a must, i actually like the idea of having a few attributes high and rest random because its much less of a hastle for the creators

[QUOTE=Bobby]Torpedo Soccer Gaming :(
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Soccer Gaming Torpedoes :$

submission form

the last time, when i started doing the team it took ages with "submission". Good luck if it gets "submission" this time too... To whoever makes the team

Well I'm willing to help if Ruud needs help. :)

I'd better state that a full submission form will not be used even if it wins this poll. The poll is just to see if my thoughts were right that many people would like to see the procedure following that road, and that mainly people looking for a real challenge were going to vote against it. I'm getting the feeling I was right, and that I'm going to have to step away from full random players, and let people give me pointers as to the mentality and technical qualities/deficiencies of their player.

Let's wait a week more, though, and see if anything changes.

this time around ill get "mod" ability (H) lol

Not gonna vote because i dont mind, either is fine and i dont want to taint the results

lol... i'd help too, but i dont know how since im not the main man responsible, and that guy is never online :p

I know I said maybe yesterday, well, maybe tonight.

call me a moron, but i don't know what exactly is SG United...can somebody explain it?:jap:

call me a moron, but i don't know what exactly is SG United...can somebody explain it?:jap:
SoccerGaming Forum's own FM team. With the forum members as players (mainly people from the FM forum). ;)

SoccerGaming Forum's own FM team. With the forum members as players (mainly people from the FM forum). ;)

Wohoo! :bob: I'll definetly join if possible!:D

:jap:

when will this season's start?

It'll be a pain for Ruud and co. to count the total points :(

not if you copy into a spreadsheet or use something along those lines :).

cant ACTUALLY believe Ruud didnt think of that...

How many applications do we get each year? around 30 or something? It'd be a pain to get the data done for each player... even with spreadsheets...

taking the CM 03/04 example, some skills have double points, depending on positions... the only way I think it'd be possible would be to make a spreadsheet available for download (one for each position), the player would then fill in the values and make sure the total points weren't exceeded... else Ruud would have to copy all the values manually, and that'd be a lot of trouble (not sure how copy/paste works with data copied from the browser)

not to mention he'd have to get all the values to the editor...

Way too much trouble, imho...

copy paste works just fine, actually :p

That last point is the workload indeed.

would be quite easy to make a small form for a database and use that, but then again cant realy be arsed :p So lad, hows it gonna be and who will be making what? :)
a PM or coming online will be just as fine if u're in the mood to tell ;)

yeah, everybody's getting pumped up to see SG United in the game:rockman:

I already do in my game. With CM 01/02 data though :p

no fun, there isn't me(H) lol, actually,if we do a new one for FM2006, and i sign up, my picture will appear in my player:hump:

If you give your real name, birth day and month, yes. :p

oh boy... If thats not invasion of our privacy what is then? :dragan: You cant even have the illusion of anonymity on the internet these days. :nape: Where's this fake world going to? :nape: tsk.. tsk tsk.... adiós anonymity :jap:

Another reason why I didn't sign up for the FITG competition of this year's edition. :)

I just hope I'll be half decent this time around (in 03/04 I was a reserve, FM 05 I used to score more than TROD and Dragan combined, just that mine were own goals...)
I may even purchase FM 2006 for this patch...

Whoever said a data base wouldn't be simple, is soooooo wrong (H) Once you've set up the sheet properly you simply just have to copy the stats into it and that'd be it.

yeah, I said it and I was wrong... it is simple (if people post it correctly), though boring to do if you're doing it 30 times... and, like Ruud said, the worst part is to transfer the numbers from the spreadsheet to the editor

oh boy... If thats not invasion of our privacy what is then? :dragan: You cant even have the illusion of anonymity on the internet these days. :nape: Where's this fake world going to? :nape: tsk.. tsk tsk.... adiós anonymity :jap:

you're damn right Alex Mixafendis (H)

This time around (being a mod, sexy and all) i'll be exercising my right to have Nick having below 2 Acc/Pace :) Hope you dont mind my Halifaxian friend.

:bob:

so when does it start?

I have a much busier life than last year, and Alex keeping me up half the night for two days in a row doesn't help much. Just be patient and you'll see stuff appear in time.

yeh dont knock Ruud, he's a sexy duch dude with woman pining at his door :(

Too bad the chick is a job counsellor, but oh well :p

(least she aint a psychologist...) oops lets not even to begin to talk about Alex's life ! (H)

How about your life, Tom? (H)

What life? (H)

I have a much busier life than last year, and Alex keeping me up half the night for two days in a row doesn't help much. Just be patient and you'll see stuff appear in time.

hey! I can keep doing that for another month if you want :junior:
Will be kinda unavaliblle after that so better hury up :p

you're damn right Alex Mixafendis (H)

This time around (being a mod, sexy and all) i'll be exercising my right to have Nick having below 2 Acc/Pace :) Hope you dont mind my Halifaxian friend.

Tom, thats a mistake. The team need a yorkshire pairing up front to rifle the balls into the net. We're the new yorke and cole. I mean who else is there? (H)

Tom, thats a mistake. The team need a yorkshire pairing up front to rifle the balls into the net. We're the new yorke and cole. I mean who else is there? (H)

Me, the east mecklenburg adybayor

Do we have the financial support and reputation to bring such a quality player on board?

im feeling the idea of a Yorkshire attack with a Greenlandian AMC (H)

That wouldn't be fair to the other clubs, would it? (H)

Are there any objections to a M$ Excel registration form?

no complaints here oh wise one.

Oh, it will be 'other', btw. Mental, and 25-50% of the technical stats will be given a set value, depending on personal preference. There will be more emphasis on forum presence as well.

why force ppl use microsoft software to register?
Just make a template text like..

Pace 20
Finishing 10

You get it with spaces so then, when you paste in a way to excel directly, you will have your own template that will by simply pastin the values to the correct cell will find all the values sum.
You can make the values that count differently (reverse, such as eccentricity) count just that way by making an excell algorithm to count them just like you need them to in the overall abilities sum (if everyone submits forms with all skills like we used to CM01/Cm4 times)
Personaly thats what i believe is better.More simple for everyone and u just have to paste the values. Not make everyone use a stupid microcrap program that isnt even for free.

There will be more emphasis on forum presence as well.

I maintain my presence would have been greater, had i had more than 4 days off since November :D

why force ppl use microsoft software to register?
Just make a template text like..

Pace 20
Finishing 10

You get it with spaces so then, when you paste in a way to excel directly, you will have your own template that will by simply pastin the values to the correct cell will find all the values sum.
You can make the values that count differently (reverse, such as eccentricity) count just that way by making an excell algorithm to count them just like you need them to in the overall abilities sum (if everyone submits forms with all skills like we used to CM01/Cm4 times)
Personaly thats what i believe is better.More simple for everyone and u just have to paste the values. Not make everyone use a stupid microcrap program that isnt even for free.
Had you been online, I would have explained it more. You seem to not exactly know how the form works. Well, only I do :S Kind of...

was unavalible b4... im online and avalible now tho... obviously :p

It'll be an in-forum sign up anyway, no xls.

can't wait for it... but I guess the patch'll be out before I manage to get the game...

CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE NICKNAMES IN FOR EVERY PLAYER (SG nicknames)

why?

cause i like knowing who is who and not have random names, it would be more fun to think "haha Kibe Kbru missed the penalty.." and not "joseph smith" ?

dont know myself. Personally having me as "tom hits the crossbar" is kinda gay.

lol, I can't understand why you people want the SG nicknames there so badly!
I mean, I'd rather see a player's name as "Joe Whatshisname" than "Ub3rL337h4xX0r" in a player select screen... it's more like the real game...

:| your last sentance (N)

w/e i don't care, i would have liked it like that anyway

There's a set nickname option on the game. Wouldn't take long to set your 16 usual first teamers.

If someone uses the nickname, I'll add it. Now stop posting in caps, or I'll have to spank you.

Moreover SG United won't have enough dosh to buy Zlatan, would they?

My first choice defenders when I start the game:

from right to left

Me-Dreath-fender-Cody

Now stop posting in caps, or I'll have to spank you.

REALLY? (H)

No I'll spank you Nick, now that'll get you to stop :D

pffft... Kick in the nuts will work much better

How about the next SG challenge about taking charge of SG United? It's been awhile we had a challenge.

Sounds like a good idea. We could make it the official SG FM Championship :p

So, Tom, 'bout time you got the game. :)

'fraid not, however i'll still comment on peoples experiences and pretend i know what the **** im on about...

(H)

To be fair, FM doesnt change much (as Alex has said so many times before)

That sounds nice... I'll have to get the game myself too, but I guess it won't take long till I get the money... and seeing as the signups will be up to Jan 31st, and allowing a week or two for Ruud and Alex to make the patch, I guess I still have some time... I just hope I don't screw up the team anymore...

What happening on the 31st?

The sign ups will stop then.

too long imo. There doesnt seem to be much interest from new members atm

Currently: *slacking*

Stadium, kits, etc. Will it be the same as last year or new?

New. Smaller stadium, but with plenty of room for expansion. No sponsor on the kits. Slight alteration to their style. Relocated back to London. Same logo. Same name. Less reputation. Not sure if I used more or less money than in previous years, but should be enough to sign new contracts.

you have a picture of the kits? :) I haven't seen them yet....:p

Nor has anyone else. Don't worry about them, they're not spectacular.

Lmao. But.. it Should be fairly easy to make em look realistic if thers a template avaliable somewhere

when can we signup?

by the way, can we specify our height, weight and nationality?

would really like to join

You can sign up now.

http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=129840

Sorry, I forgot to unstick the old thread and stick the new one back in place. Done now.

No height and weight, as they aren't used in the game anyway.

Oh, and Alex, it's not hard without templates either, although they do exist.