View Full Version : Who's next to take throne at St. James?


DC_NUFC
21-01-2006, 10:53:PM
Well i for one will be absolutley schocked if souey is still there by Tuesday. He's a useless twat and has Newcastle playing like a bunch of 5 year olds. After todays result at home to Blackburn, he is proababl already cleaning his office

now with that said who do u all think will take the hotseat at newcastle. i know there a couple of names that standout in my mind that r currently on my mind like Lyons ex boss Paul Le Guen or Otmar Hitzfeld. I don't know how Martin O'neil's position stands in whether he wants to get back into managment or not. Then theres the managers already involved with clubs who would be favourite such as Allarydice, Hiddink, O'Leary.

My personal choice depends on what shepard wants, if he wants british it would be allardice hands down but i dunno if he'll leave bolton. if not then i think Martin O'Neil would be good. I really liked the way celtic played when he was there and the enthusiasm he brtought to the players. If shgepard elects foreign, I think Paul Le Guen would be my choice. What he built with Lyon is hands down great. He's young and got plenty of years infront of him

SOUNESS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

barthez4
21-01-2006, 11:27:PM
Why would Hitzfield/Hiddink/Allardyce want to go to a weak Newcastle team?

Thelonious
21-01-2006, 11:47:PM
Newcastle aren't very appealign at the moment , they will probably go with a British manager , not sure who.
Newcastle need to sort out their pitches aswell , that club is a graveyard for any player with pace , I wouldn't be the slightest bit suprised if Owen misses the world cup.

TOON ARMY
22-01-2006, 01:24:AM
Reet now i don't think Houdini would make much difference.

Sack Sourmess in the summer and give a new manager time to clear the **** out.

Rob
22-01-2006, 01:44:AM
Just curious, do you think Robson should of been sacked?

TOON ARMY
22-01-2006, 02:13:AM
Just curious, do you think Robson should of been sacked?

I think Robson had taken us as far as he possibly could. He wasn't helped by circumstances in the dressing room with certain players spitting their dummies out but i was completely shocked at the manner in which he was sacked.

At the end of the day Sir Bobby gave us 4 good seasons and memorable nights in Europe at the likes of the San Siro. That's what he's remembered for and that's why the fans love him even though i think the time had come for him to leave.

With the benefit of hindsight, yes it was time for Sir Bobby to move on but not in that manner.

pede54
22-01-2006, 03:03:AM
Is it too early for Shearer to take charge?
Failing that ,i wouldn't let O'Leary near the Toon man.
I know Ranieri is looking for an English club to manage.Newcastle could do a lot worse than him.

Rob
22-01-2006, 03:06:AM
Ranieri has a good record at rebuilding squads and picking talent.

Bobby
22-01-2006, 03:08:AM
How's Martin O'Neill's situation, I know his wife had/is having health issues.

Fernandez
22-01-2006, 03:23:AM
There is Le Guen. Fantastic manager of tremendous ability.

Seven8
22-01-2006, 10:32:AM
I can't see Hitzfeld, Le Guen, Hiddink etc going to become Newcastle Manager, specially because ManUtd (I do believe so), Real Madrid and other top teams will be looking for new managers at the end of the season.

But IMO not only Souness is the Problem, but Shepard aswell.

Johnny_Big
22-01-2006, 12:10:PM
I really don't understand, I look to Newcastle and I see great players...and they are in the middle of the table. It can only be the coach...Souness come back to Benfica! :jap:

TOON ARMY
22-01-2006, 12:25:PM
Is it too early for Shearer to take charge?
Failing that ,i wouldn't let O'Leary near the Toon man.
I know Ranieri is looking for an English club to manage.Newcastle could do a lot worse than him.

I would love to see Renieri in the job personally.

Johnny_Big - We may have a good team on paper but our biggest players are mostly injured.

Owen, Parker, Emre, Taylor, Carr, Dyer, N’Zogbia to name a few, all injured. Take five key players out of the Chelsea team and they would struggle. With this in mind that’s why Souness hasn’t been sacked yet. However Souness’ coaching techniques have a lot to do with it. Also Souness gets so desperate he brings players back from injury early risking yet more injuries.

Virgo
22-01-2006, 04:25:PM
I would love to see Renieri in the job personally.

Johnny_Big - We may have a good team on paper but our biggest players are mostly injured.

Owen, Parker, Emre, Taylor, Carr, Dyer, N’Zogbia to name a few, all injured. Take five key players out of the Chelsea team and they would struggle. With this in mind that’s why Souness hasn’t been sacked yet. However Souness’ coaching techniques have a lot to do with it. Also Souness gets so desperate he brings players back from injury early risking yet more injuries.

you'd be challenging for the EPL with a coach like Mourinho.

Souness is crap, always been, always will be.

Get someone proven like Le Guen or Hitzfeld and even with the injuries I guarantee you at least won't be seeing home defeats to teams like Blackburn.

TOON ARMY
22-01-2006, 05:34:PM
Don't get me wrong i am NOT a Souness supporter what so ever.

Xifio, you don't think Chelsea would struggle without Lampard, Terry, Makalele, Cech and Duff, that's 5 key players, the backbone of the team.

Andrejs
22-01-2006, 05:43:PM
Throne? At St. James? More like a stool.

TheBlueBalla
22-01-2006, 06:27:PM
Har har

I think its a cushy job myself. After the trash theyve had to watch for over a year now, millions spent for no results, getting them back to European places would make whoever took the job look like a mastermind.

O'Neill and Ranieri are great shouts, but I think Claudio really f*cked himself with his time in Valencia, and O'Neill might take a boatload of money to sign.

But I guess if youre looking for the right "fit", LeGuien's experience as boss of a Lyon team that, in alot of ways, kinda resemble the squad the toon currently have, might make him the best option. I think George Burley wouldve been a good option.

I tend to agree with toonarmy, though. It would be smarter just to ride this crap out for the season (after firing Souness and appointing an interim boss, of course) and deal with it in the summer. The quality of managers who would take the job will be vastly better if its a summer hire as opposed to a quick fix, and someone more apt for the position might just be let go by another club.

Fernandez
22-01-2006, 06:29:PM
Burley joined Southampton weeks ago.

TheBlueBalla
22-01-2006, 06:39:PM
I think George Burley wouldve been a good option.
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Virgo
22-01-2006, 06:51:PM
how the hell would Le Guen be a quick fix? He's one of the best managers in Europe. He was in talks with Benfica in the summer and we didn't sign him just because he wanted to bring his medic and fire our medic.. and honestly he would be getting like 100.000£ a month if that much. I bet Newcastle can pay him a lot more, so there is now way he wouldn't be up for the job, unless he already has something signed with Real Madrid or something.

He set up Lyon to be one of the best sides in Europe, after him being gone, that's one thing that Mourinho couldn't do for Porto (although Porto's board selling out the team didn't help).

I honestly don't know who are you waiting to be available in the summer, I'd take Le Guen over someone like Sven in a heartbeat.

ShearerM4
22-01-2006, 07:43:PM
Throne? At St. James? More like a stool.

lol, oi!

it doenst matter anymore anyway. I really think we'd even be better off with no manager until the end of the season. Just get Souey out out out out out out out.

TOON ARMY
22-01-2006, 07:53:PM
What ever happens we cannot afford another flop of a manager. Over the past decade we've had Dalgleish, Gullit and Souness, all quickly appointed without much consideration.

Filipower
22-01-2006, 08:26:PM
:hump:http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/treinadores/manuel-jose.gif:hump:

Shindig
22-01-2006, 08:37:PM
What about a joint managership, like Liverpool did?

Xifio
22-01-2006, 09:12:PM
Xifio, you don't think Chelsea would struggle without Lampard, Terry, Makalele, Cech and Duff, that's 5 key players, the backbone of the team.

it might require a change of system, yes, but I do think they would still manage ... Cudicini is an able replacement, Robben's there on the left, Maniche/Essien in the middle, Gudjohnsen's plays in the middle too, Gallas would move into the centre defense with Carvalho, and Del Horno would play at left-back ... Mourinho has his squad planned for situations like those ... the man has his sh!t down

your team Newcastle have a decent roster ... but as you yourself have said, they can't afford another managerial c0ck up ... Hitzfield would be a coup if you guys can lure him, but I doubt that will happen ...

Filipower
22-01-2006, 09:32:PM
plus, chelsea's got mourinho...he is the team's backbone..

Adriano7
22-01-2006, 09:44:PM
Just curious, do you think Robson should of been sacked?

Narr i loved sir bobby he was great he retured us to the beloved newcastle we all know,but they shepherd dumped him :nape: and then replaces him with SOUNESS . :jambo: So they next game was against black burn, we beat them comfortably, and then saturday we play blackburn aand they beat us 1-nil??

SO souness left blackburn at bottom of league and now they have got better without him, and we have got worse. :nape:

O and to Top it Off we cnt sack him else he gets a 3-5 million pound pay off :rockman:

bkaj21
23-01-2006, 02:56:AM
Mourinho has his squad planned for situations like those ... the man has his sh!t down

he also has a gidjillion pounds

TheBlueBalla
23-01-2006, 05:51:AM
how the hell would Le Guen be a quick fix? He's one of the best managers in Europe. He was in talks with Benfica in the summer and we didn't sign him just because he wanted to bring his medic and fire our medic.. and honestly he would be getting like 100.000£ a month if that much. I bet Newcastle can pay him a lot more, so there is now way he wouldn't be up for the job, unless he already has something signed with Real Madrid or something.

He set up Lyon to be one of the best sides in Europe, after him being gone, that's one thing that Mourinho couldn't do for Porto (although Porto's board selling out the team didn't help).

I honestly don't know who are you waiting to be available in the summer, I'd take Le Guen over someone like Sven in a heartbeat.
is that directed at my comment?

Firstly, I dont think LeGuen would bother taking this job, especially now. Maybe in the summer, with a clean break and an opportunity to rebuild the squad in his mold, he might consider it. Now, i seriously doubt it

Secondly, he would not be a quick fix if he were put in tomorrow. But I doubt they would get him, or anyone of real quality sewn up in the next week, and thus, unless they have someone in mind and are already setting up negociations. Fire souness now, put an interim manager in place, and im willing to bet the pool of managerial talent will be even richer in the summer. Easy