-----------------Casillas
Cicinho-----Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Zambrotta
-----------DM----------Gago
---Beckham--------Raul/Cassano/CAM-------Robinho
----------------Ronaldo
----------------Casillas---------------------
----------S.Ramos----Cannavaro------------
-Cicinho--------------------------Zambrotta-
-------------Diarra/Masche------------------
-----Beckham----Cesc----------------------
--------Raul/Cassano/Baptista---Robinho-----
----------------Ronaldo---------------------

Maybe. Personally Mascherano & Baptista.

According to a portuguese newspaper which quotes Marca I think, there is an agreedment between Real Madrid and Van Nistelrooy. They are negotiating with MU. What do you guys think about this ?

According to a portuguese newspaper which quotes Marca I think, there is an agreedment between Real Madrid and Van Nistelrooy. They are negotiating with MU. What do you guys think about this ?

it f*cking sucks! i hate Ruud! :kader:
i want Toni! :jambo:

has any one heard about vanistelrooy i really hope we dont get him he a peace of crap u know. :nape:

I'd be happy with Nistelrooy coming - so maybe there is still hope of Ronaldo leaving the club and Raul not being an automatic starter.

nooooooooooooooooooooooo.
i would choose RONALDO over him any day u know.

According to a portuguese newspaper which quotes Marca I think, there is an agreedment between Real Madrid and Van Nistelrooy. They are negotiating with MU. What do you guys think about this ?Yeah, too late. My line up is set and I ain't changing my mind...that's what I really want though, we'd kick ass.

An aging-deminishing-USEDtobeclinicalfinisher-rooy? Nah, I'll pass.

Mahamadou Diarra has reopened the possibility of leaving Lyon after revealing he is upset with coach Gerard Houllier.

The Mali international is among the most coveted midfielders in Europe, with Manchester United and Real Madrid hoping to sign Diarra.

Reports have suggested Real, now under the charge of Fabio Capello, are likely to win any bidding auction for the 25-year-old.

The situation was clouded earlier this week when Houllier claimed that Diarra wanted to stay at Stade Gerland to help Lyon win another French title and the UEFA Champions League.

But the African powerhouse has refuted his manager's comments, insisting it is not definitive that he will remain with l'OL.

Diarra is unhappy with Houllier for being his mouthpiece and concedes he could secure a transfer before the start of the new season.

"I know the club relies on me and I also rely a lot on the club," said Diarra.

"I didn't allow anyone to talk in my place.

"Today, I am open to any proposition."

Houllier, though, remains unrepentant and is adamant that the midfielder wants to help Lyon's quest for further honours.

"Mahamadou Diarra will not leave," he told Le Progres. "He wants to win the league title and the Champions League with us."

I cant understand why Mijatovic isnt getting Diarra. how long will we make him wait... :rolleyes:

I hope diarra comes because he will be the backbone of real madrid if he comes it would be great for our midfield which is under strenght.
Out of all the players Real Madrid want to get he should be the first priority. :hump:

Cassano suffered alot in today's training. his weight was 81 kilos at the end of the season. now it´s 83. he has gained 2 kilos during his 54 days of rest. :chew:

Capello has told the staff to put him on a very strict diet for 3 weeks.

losing 10 kg aint easy, man :( what the hell did he do.. haha

']losing 10 kg aint easy, man :( what the hell did he do.. haha

eating too much :boohoo:

I cant understand why Mijatovic isnt getting Diarra. how long will we make him wait... :rolleyes:

My guess is that Lyon want too much money, I dont think its worth it to spend that much on him when there are other players out there.

RVN... :kader: . BTW to those saying he will replace Ronaldo, I actually heard that they want someone to play with Ronaldo ( yes either RVN or Toni to play with Ronaldo )... :kader:

Diarra should really be your first target. He's a monster at reading the opponents. The next "big" thing I must say. Not many people know him yet.

I have a bad feeling that we will be playing with Beckham as a RCM this year, and without a true creator.

like this -

-----------Diarra---Emerson-----------
-------Beckham----------------------
--------Raul/Cassano/Baptista---Robinho-----
----------------Ronaldo---------------------

Don't get me wrong, I love that we will be getting 2 great true DMs, but I don't think we can start them both without a creator like Cesc, Gago, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta etc.

no RVN....Madrid would have to sell Raul as they are the exact same players imo.

no RVN....Madrid would have to sell Raul as they are the exact same players imo.

No, Ronaldo and RvN are the same kind of player.

But I agree I will shoot myself if we get Ruud.

Marca says that we have agreed to a deal :(

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/670636.html

I think youre all quite wrong. Ruud is more like Toni than any striker you all have

An aging-deminishing-USEDtobeclinicalfinisher-rooy? Nah, I'll pass.
He scored 21 last season in a more defensive league and was denied playing time thanks to his, admittedly, crap attitude. He may not be the right fit, but he definately isnt past it

He is just the type of lurker/poacher that Ronaldo used to be and is as good in the air as Toni. I dont understand why everyone of you are repulsed at this

oh, and another thing. He isnt Ronaldo

nah...Ronaldo can run...and he can dribble. And he can shoot from further than 3 meters..
RVN and Raul are the same. The get the ball in the box, try to spin and give a flimsy shot. At Least Raul wins penalties when he falls though...

If raul plays midfield it's a different story.

Raul is a SS, RvN is a striker.']who is this Jurado guy? how come you guys rate him so highly? what has he done?Obviously he hasn't "done anything" yet cause he has only played for our 2nd team :P But he's a big prospect with great pace, dribbling skills and a decent scoring capacity. He can play both LW or CAM. He's the guy in my sig btw :)

Ronaldo COULD run and dribble... now mostly he just looses posession trying to do so ...he's absolutley crap in the air and needs space to produce his skills.

***

RVN and Raul are nowhere near the same players - buy some glasses ffs!

Raul often drifts to the wings, drops back, whereas Nistelrooy is an out and out BOX striker and a deadly finisher.

Scoringwise the used to be similar, but Ruud is still producing plenty whereas Rauls dried up a lot.

Raul may be some ahead in the alltime CL ranks, but Nistelrooy has a much better goal/game ratio.

He definetly would be an Improvement of the Team if he comes.

nah...Ronaldo can run...and he can dribble. And he can shoot from further than 3 meters......WHEN THERE IS AN ARBY'S BIG MONTANA ON THE LINE

fyp

RvN would only close doors to Soldado if Ronaldo is not sold.

that may be true face, but I've read they want to loan Soldado.
+ Ronaldo should be sold anyway

ruud would'nt be a hit in spain because he hasnt got the pace a centre forward needs to play well in spain.

Joauadinho - does Ronaldo still have that pace ?

Ruud isn't so slow as people make out - honestly he won't crawl on the ground + he is a box striker, so he just needs quick reactions much more than speed.

fyp

haha.

I guess if Ronaldo is sold, it wouldn't be that bad.

I just don't think that we should kill Soldado's chances by buying another striker without selling atleast one.

Joauadinho - does Ronaldo still have that pace ?

Ruud isn't so slow as people make out - honestly he won't crawl on the ground + he is a box striker, so he just needs quick reactions much more than speed.
yeah thats in england but in spain there is more time and space on the ball. and we dont even know what tipe of fooball capello is going to play do we.

I just don't think that we should kill Soldado's chances by buying another striker without selling atleast one.

I agree with you on that point. That Soldado kid looks legit, and with players like Miccoli and Balzaretti I think Capello understands well the value of youth in a veteran system. That can only be good news for Soldado

Ronaldo ---> out
Raul ------> midfield
Ruud -----> in

Ruud, Cassano, Soldado with Robinho, Baptista and Raul part timing would be way more than adequate in a one striker system. Everyone brings something different to the table. Ronaldo is already sitting at that table, sporting a bib and sharpening his steak knife

I agree with you on that point. That Soldado kid looks legit, and with players like Miccoli and Balzaretti I think Capello understands well the value of youth in a veteran system. That can only be good news for Soldado

Ronaldo ---> out
Raul ------> midfield
Ruud -----> in

Ruud, Cassano, Soldado with Robinho, Baptista and Raul part timing would be way more than adequate in a one striker system. Everyone brings something different to the table. Ronaldo is already sitting at that table, sporting a bib and sharpening his steak knife
Dont need a steak knife for KFC.

Dont need a steak knife for KFC.

LMAO

btw spot on post BlueBella

Miccoli never played for Juve under Capello. :) I get your point though.

RvN would only close doors to Soldado if Ronaldo is not sold.

I agree with this one but has Capello said he wants to keep Ronaldo than? I know that RC wants out ( he already told Mijatovic and Calderon ) but Ronaldo has not said much about what he wants to do. Hopefully if things go right Ronaldo gets sold and we buy Luca Toni and not Ruud. Toni imo is better than Ruud as he is also a good goalscorer, good heading, a big guy that can hold up the ball, and can distribute the ball very nicely setting chances for his teammates. Plus he was a God for me on Football Manager (h)

Capello using youth players...dont think that will happen a lot tbh.

I agree with you on that point. That Soldado kid looks legit, and with players like Miccoli and Balzaretti I think Capello understands well the value of youth in a veteran system. That can only be good news for Soldado

Ronaldo ---> out
Raul ------> midfield
Ruud -----> in

Ruud, Cassano, Soldado with Robinho, Baptista and Raul part timing would be way more than adequate in a one striker system. Everyone brings something different to the table. Ronaldo is already sitting at that table, sporting a bib and sharpening his steak knife

Totally agree (Y)

Now where would we get the best value ? I'd say Milan, Maybe a switch for Kaka??? (6)

Next season they need to give more chances to balboa, jurado and soldado rather then just buy forigners because the madridsta's would not like that.

I have a bad feeling that we will be playing with Beckham as a RCM this year, and without a true creator.

like this -

-----------Diarra---Emerson-----------
-------Beckham----------------------
--------Raul/Cassano/Baptista---Robinho-----
----------------Ronaldo---------------------

Don't get me wrong, I love that we will be getting 2 great true DMs, but I don't think we can start them both without a creator like Cesc, Gago, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta etc.

Playing with 2 DM's is disgusting...but I wont be suprised if Capello does do that. :kader: BTW that tactic is horrible.

Playing with 2 DM's is disgusting...but I wont be suprised if Capello does do that. :kader: BTW that tactic is horrible.
if capello goes for 2 defensive midfielders who do u think they are going to be?

if capello goes for 2 defensive midfielders who do u think they are going to be?

I think one for sure will be Emerson ( :-puke: )...the other is whoever he can get Diarra, Mascherano, etc.

I may be the only debating myself wether or not we should get rid or Ronaldo, he is great when he wants to be and i feel that if he remains healthy he may go to his old ways.

But, with the possibility of him having knee surgery again it may be the time to sell him..

I may be the only debating myself wether or not we should get rid or Ronaldo, he is great when he wants to be and i feel that if he remains healthy he may go to his old ways.

But, with the possibility of him having knee surgery again it may be the time to sell him..
no i think ronaldo should stay a nother season because capello will know how to make him play well and if he does get surgery thier is soldado to fill his place in the team.

I may be the only debating myself wether or not we should get rid or Ronaldo, he is great when he wants to be and i feel that if he remains healthy he may go to his old ways.

But, with the possibility of him having knee surgery again it may be the time to sell him..

Personally, I think we should keep Ronaldo.

I cant understand why Mijatovic isnt getting Diarra. how long will we make him wait... :rolleyes:
lyon are making it difficult, with good reason, they dont want to be a feeder club, selling their top players every offseason. Their high price tag is to ward off teams trying to poach their team.

I have a bad feeling that we will be playing with Beckham as a RCM this year, and without a true creator.

Don't get me wrong, I love that we will be getting 2 great true DMs, but I don't think we can start them both without a creator like Cesc, Gago, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta etc.

i agree, we need creativity in the worst way....but, let's not get ahead of ourselves, we've signed no one so far, this wont be the team we start the season with

I think youre all quite wrong. Ruud is more like Toni than any striker you all have


He scored 21 last season in a more defensive league and was denied playing time thanks to his, admittedly, crap attitude. He may not be the right fit, but he definately isnt past it

He is just the type of lurker/poacher that Ronaldo used to be and is as good in the air as Toni. I dont understand why everyone of you are repulsed at this

oh, and another thing. He isnt Ronaldo

good points, but the thing that most of our are concerned with, you just mentioned. He is older, definitely not in his prime. Two, he has a bad attitude, not just for club, but for country as well. We are trying to get rid of players with attitude problems (see roberto carlos) not add more.

I wouldnt mind if we got him, he's a proven talent, but I'd be more happy with someone else, to be honest. Also, I'd wait for an announcement from Realmadrid.com before declaring him a real madrid player, the papers have in the past said we signed vieira, mascherano, alex, etc.

One thing is certain, if we get Ruud, we must sell Ronaldo. I think it would be a disaster to see them beside eachother.

One thing is certain, if we get Ruud, we must sell Ronaldo. I think it would be a disaster to see them beside eachother.

Why?

Capello already used Mijatovic + Suker + Raul and it was a complete succes

Why not using now RVN + Ronaldo + Robinho (Raul)

Why not using now RVN + Ronaldo + Robinho (Raul)Cause playing with 2 pure strikers is a complete waste of space and don't work anymore. Even more having great support strikers like we do, as Raul, Cassano, Baptista, etc.

I cant believe youd rather have RVN than Ronaldo :nape:
Saying R9 is a poacher is also :nape:

Why?

Capello already used Mijatovic + Suker + Raul and it was a complete succes

Why not using now RVN + Ronaldo + Robinho (Raul)

I don't think it would work anymore.

Show me a formation with Ronaldo and RvN that you think would work.

Maybe the way Owen and Ronaldo worked together....

RvN + Ronaldo in Madrid ~= Adriano + Ronaldo in Brazil = bad, bad idea. They won't gel on the pitch.

I don't think it would work anymore.

Show me a formation with Ronaldo and RvN that you think would work.

You should ask Capello, i believe he knows more than us about how to do that

Anyway:


RVN Ronaldo


Raul/Robinho/Guti Diarra/Baptista Emerson/PabloGarcia Beckham/Kaka/Baptista?


I think its possible to use 2 Forwards like RVN and Ronaldo, but then we should not use many wingers just my opinion.

cheers fellas, good debate here. Your thread is off to a great start
']Miccoli never played for Juve under Capello. :) I get your point though.
Err, well, he loaned him for development, so same difference (H) What was that one kid, another outside back, cant remember his name

Now where would we get the best value ? I'd say Milan, Maybe a switch for Kaka??? (6)
in all seriousness, its a good question. If you were going to sell him, where the hell would he go?



good points, but the thing that most of our are concerned with, you just mentioned. He is older, definitely not in his prime. Two, he has a bad attitude, not just for club, but for country as well. We are trying to get rid of players with attitude problems (see roberto carlos) not add more.
You make a good point there, and thats something I dont think you'll have to worry about because of the Capello factor. He wont be strong armed into signings where he feels the player is going to upset the team ethos or balance. And a player as difficult as Ruud has been the last few years with his managers is one he would probably want to be without


Saying R9 is a poacher is also :nape:
does he create goals for himself anymore? Or does he just wait for the ball to come to him?
Yes, I saw the goal against Barca. Maybe if he gave that effort a bit more often, I might change my mind

RvN + Ronaldo in Madrid ~= Adriano + Ronaldo in Brazil = bad, bad idea. They won't gel on the pitch.

There are two things i disagree.

Ronaldo + Adriano = 5 goals in 5 matches, and they even missed lot of minutes. Thats a good goal rate.

In Brazil they were playing a 4-2-2-2 in Real Madrid probably they will play a 4-4-2

Err, well, he loaned him for development, so same difference (H) What was that one kid, another outside back, cant remember his name

Nah, Miccoli counted on Capello to keep him at Juve after an awesome pre-season in 04 and a good season under Lippi in 03/04. Instead Capello got Ibrahimovic and basically told him he could go. Miccoli is 2 or 3 years older then Ibrahimovic though. :p And I think you mean Chiellini with that other back?

Just the Barca gol? Watch and learn: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q33LJa1BHuo&search=Ronaldo%20Real%20Madrid%20
this is last season, and excludes the Barca game.
This was also his worst season of his career, I cant imagine he would be playing worse. As long as he's fit....

Nah, Miccoli counted on Capello to keep him at Juve after an awesome pre-season in 04 and a good season under Lippi in 03/04. Instead Capello got Ibrahimovic and basically told him he could go. Miccoli is 2 or 3 years older then Ibrahimovic though. :p And I think you mean Chiellini with that other back?
Yeah, Chiellini is the one! Shame about Miccoli, though. He seems to have alot of talent. He is still on your books while at Benfica, right?

Just the Barca gol? Watch and learn: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q33LJa1BHuo&search=Ronaldo%20Real%20Madrid%20
this is last season, and excludes the Barca game.
This was also his worst season of his career, I cant imagine he would be playing worse. As long as he's fit....
ok, so he is still capabale of a bursting run from midfield and beating the occasional offsides trap or lurking at the edge of the box. Then why is getting him to show that effort on a consistent basis so difficult? What was it about playing the MLS allstars that got him so fired up, eh?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cPuCHQwV3LE&mode=related&search=Ronaldo%20Real%20Madrid%20

BTW this is a nice 1st season by Robinho....he's a Special Kid

Yeah, Chiellini is the one! Shame about Miccoli, though. He seems to have alot of talent. He is still on your books while at Benfica, right?


Yeah, he is. I think his contract expires in 2007, so he could walk away for free next summer. :( But I'm not 100% sure about that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cPuCHQwV3LE&mode=related&search=Ronaldo%20Real%20Madrid%20

BTW this is a nice 1st season by Robinho....he's a Special Kid

Robinho will have a better season this year :hump:

I Agree with BlueBalla, and it is why i had a problem wih him all last season as im sure mostly everyone else had. I Don't doubt that capello will be a great coach, but will that be more than enough to bring back the good old ronaldo?? WILL HE BE ENOUGH TO BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD RONALDO??

Just the Barca gol? Watch and learn: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q33LJa1BHuo&search=Ronaldo%20Real%20Madrid%20
this is last season, and excludes the Barca game.
This was also his worst season of his career, I cant imagine he would be playing worse. As long as he's fit....

My opinion of Ronaldo has not changed, we should look for the highest bidder and sell him off. Hopefully Inter is still interested.

You should ask Capello, i believe he knows more than us about how to do that

Anyway:


RVN Ronaldo


Raul/Robinho/Guti Diarra/Baptista Emerson/PabloGarcia Beckham/Kaka/Baptista?


I think its possible to use 2 Forwards like RVN and Ronaldo, but then we should not use many wingers just my opinion.

Ask Capello...his idea is to have 3 attackers and 7 defenders...yea. I dont think it will work, I dont want either of them though so... :chew:

I think we should sign Zambrotta... (6)

http://www.subir-fotos.com/uploads/7765379fc3.jpg

ZAMBROTTA HAS NOW BECOME TOP PRIORITY!!!!!









Seriously though, he and Cannavaro are top priorities in my book. It would finally make our defence solid.

[QUOTE=Crusad3r]I think we should sign Zambrotta... (6)

http://www.subir-fotos.com/uploads/7765379fc3.jpg[/QUOTE/]

Who's that beauty??

damn! :hump:

imo, ruud and ronaldo would be a disaster

i think inter would be the most likely destination for ronaldo, if we sold him. They should be odds on favorites for serie a next year, if juve, milan and fiorentina get demoted

I dont think Inter will be interested in Ronie. considering they are very close to signing Ibrahimovic.

it has been decided now that he's going to have surgery in Brazil.
i wonder how long he will be out after that?

I dont think Inter will be interested in Ronie. considering they are very close to signing Ibrahimovic.

it has been decided now that he's going to have surgery in Brazil.
i wonder how long he will be out after that?

Well Inter was the last club that was interested in him...maybe Milan if they stay up as they lost Sheva.

I heard he will not be out for long, should be fit pretty soon.

I dont think Inter will be interested in Ronie. considering they are very close to signing Ibrahimovic.

it has been decided now that he's going to have surgery in Brazil.
i wonder how long he will be out after that?

I did not know that Inter want to get Zlatan. Adriano and Ibrahimovic wonder if that could work...

Ronaldo has 48hrs to decide if yes or no he is gonna have surgery.The club want Ronie to act now cuz he is important for the team.

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Ronaldo/tiene/48/horas/decidir/opera/dasftb/20060713dasdaiftb_10/Tes/

Well Ronaldo will have surgury in Brazil. Doctors says that it will not take much time for the recovery for Ronie.

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/strong/Ronaldo/strong/pasara/br/quirofano/br/dasftb/20060713dasdasftb_19/Tes/

1 week ago i saw Ronaldo at Albecrombie & Fitch in NY. He was looking for the fitting room, and i swar he is not fat at all. :boohoo:

1 week ago i saw Ronaldo at Albecrombie & Fitch in NY. He was looking for the fitting room, and i swar he is not fat at all. :boohoo:

then why he always look so.. chunky? :confused: the clothes? his muscles?

hey ronaldo has been going to ANF
http://e.i.uol.com.br/futebol/060713ron.jpg
man i wish i was up in NYC so i could c him around de streets also
by the way i still think dat ronaldo has a lot to give to Real and hopefully he will come bak from surgery ready to play like he knows how to play.

1 week ago i saw Ronaldo at Albecrombie & Fitch in NY. He was looking for the fitting room, and i swar he is not fat at all. :boohoo:
omg, ronaldo to NY red bulls! (6)

The USA must be the best place for footballers to holiday. No one recognizes them and they can be "normal".

Ronaldo isn't really fat. If you look at him closely you dont really see a gut, I think he gained muscle though. The kits and his lazyness makes him look fat. He can be pretty fast when he wants to be.

:rockman: Ronaldo will stay, because capello likes him and knows that even if ronaldo isnt 100% fit, he will still score goals.

He'll be sold *fingers crossed*

He'll be sold *fingers crossed*
Why do people want Ronaldo sold he was our top scorer last year with 14 goals in 19 starts, that isnt a bad ratio is it.

Why do people want Ronaldo sold he was our top scorer last year with 14 goals in 19 starts, that isnt a bad ratio is it.

*sigh*, I dont think everyone wants to go over this again. To keep it short and simple, big attitude problem. If you really want to know why there was a couple pages of debate in the last seasons thread.

Latest on Ronaldo and his knee is that the club wanted him to go to Madrid and decided how he wanted to handle his knee so he could be ready for the presason. Instead he went to New York than to Brazil and now wont be ready for the preseason in Austria. So already he has not done what the club has told him to.

Now to Cassano...coming back to training 3 kg more than last season :kader: What the hell is wrong with him? He was supposed to be on a diet and lose weight over the summer instead he got fatter.

Now to Cassano...coming back to training 3 kg more than last season :kader: What the hell is wrong with him? He was supposed to be on a diet and lose weight over the summer instead he got fatter.

Ah man !! when will this guy get in shape !!! :kader:

He will get in shape...Capello will handle that little problem...no doubt ;)

No Pizza, Lasagne, Macaroni, Spaghetti for Cassano anymore :)

He will get in shape...Capello will handle that little problem...no doubt ;)

No Pizza, Lasagne, Macaroni, Spaghetti for Cassano anymore :)

I hope so.Can blame him for liking italien food so much it so good :fool:

Why do people want Ronaldo sold he was our top scorer last year with 14 goals in 19 starts, that isnt a bad ratio is it.

That looks great on paper but if you followed Madrid all season last year, you would know why.. :nape:

And maybe it's true, the cameras do add 10 extra pounds :rolleyes:

We are going to play in the Trofeo Ramon de Carranza which will be held on the August 18-19. The other teams in here are Cadiz, Betis, and Inter. 2 games on the 18th the final and consolation match on the 19.

Ruud's Agent read HERE (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403194&CPID=8&clid=186&lid=&title=Linse:+Ruud+wants+out)

"Ruud hopes to announce a new club before he has to be in training at Manchester on July 24."

the sinings could come soon if as expected the Galciogate results become reality (annoucement should follow at 7pm CET)

yeah i did follow all the games last year and when ever he wasnt coming back from an injury he played well.

Lets just raid Juve, they should be in Serie B hopefully. (6)

But seriously, I'm not sure I like the idea of Ruud, unless he somehow changes his attitude on the pitch, then it'll be like having a 2nd Ronaldo on the pitch. :(

Emerson, Zambrotta and Cannavaro are defenetly coming if juve get relegated to serie B which will almost certainley happen. So if we then get Diarra and a nother centrel defender and sell Carlos, Helguera, Pavon, Gravesen, Garcia the defensive side is sorted. We then just have to concentrate on the midfeild, and a bit on the attack. :jambo:

Yeah Ruud is very emotional! He hates it if he sits on the bench and can f*ck up for us. But on the other hand he is a classy finisher. But so is Ronaldo. Im not sure. Rather Toni then Ruud.

Why do people want Ronaldo sold he was our top scorer last year with 14 goals in 19 starts, that isnt a bad ratio is it.
Not only that, but alongside Iker, has been the best player in the team for the last 4 years...

if carlos leaves then.. btw i hope that RVN isn't coming...

---------------Casillas-------------------
---------Ramos-------Cannavaro---------
Cicinho--------Emerson--------Zambrotta
-----------------------Guti--------------
-Beckham----------------------Robinho--
------------Ronaldo---RVN---------------

looks dope....

Ruud turned in the transfer request :S

Beckham + RVN might turn out pretty well IMO. I would like to see Diarra instead of Emerson. But the last line, Ramos - Cannavaro... wow... :rockman:

.......................Casillas................... ..............

Cicinho......Ramos.........Cannavaro...........Hor no/Zambrotta

..........................Diarra.................. ...............

Beckham.............Requilme...................... C. Ronaldo

............Ronaldo....................Robinho.... ..........

I hope so.Can blame him for liking italien food so much it so good :fool:

Pity Spaggheti is part of a stable and healthy diet.

Didn't Del Horno just join Valencia? We'll be fine with Zambrotta and Raul Bravo. Bravo actually looked like a good backup last year.

Alright guys can we limit the number of tactic posts?

Didn't Del Horno just join Valencia? We'll be fine with Zambrotta and Raul Bravo. Bravo actually looked like a good backup last year.

haha Bravo...he still scares me:(

juventus, lazio and fiorentina are relegated to serie b:rockman:

milan stays up, but are docked points

juve are in big trouble, they were docked 30 points as well. Bring on Zambrotta, Emerson and Cannavaro! And Luca Toni too! :jap:

is it official?

juventus, lazio and fiorentina are relegated to serie b:rockman:

milan stays up, but are docked points

juve are in big trouble, they were docked 30 points as well. Bring on Zambrotta, Emerson and Cannavaro! And Luca Toni too! :jap:

source ??

is it official?

Yup

no del horno hasnt joined them yet, but speaking of bravo he is ok, but theirs also philipe from the youth team hes quite good and hes brazillian.

Milan have been deducted 15 pionts and banned from europe that means we might have a chance to buy Kaka as well.

Milan have been deducted 15 pionts and banned from europe that means we might have a chance to buy Kaka as well.

Ah lets please stop talking about Kaka. First of all he is not needed and imo he wont leave just because of the punishment that Milan got.

Ah lets please stop talking about Kaka. First of all he is not needed and imo he wont leave just because of the punishment that Milan got.
he is needed because we dont have a reall playmaker except guti and kaka wanted to come to madrid before milan got the punishment.

Milan have been deducted 15 pionts and banned from europe that means we might have a chance to buy Kaka as well.
why?

they are still in serie a and will be competing in a weakened division, they could easily qualify for europe again

why?

they are still in serie a and will be competing in a weakened division, they could easily qualify for europe again
Yeah but seeing how KaKa wanted to come to madrid before because of all the brazillians in the squad this just give him an excuse to hand in a transfer request.
So that will mean Milan will be forced to sell.

I thought Milan was banned from europe for 3 seasons.

Yep, Milan are out of Europe for the next three years.

he is needed because we dont have a reall playmaker except guti and kaka wanted to come to madrid before milan got the punishment.

No, he is not needed. We dont need to play with a clear playmaker, our support strikers will do fine for us and we have quite a few to choose from. I rather spend that money on positions we need to fill.

rvn to madrid is a done deal, just need to agree on transfer fee, cap wants him

talksport

Yep, Milan are out of Europe for the next three years.
How do you know Milan have been from europe for three years?

Because the verdict has been annouced.

talksport

canna and emerson likely to come to madrid, cap wants them.

I hope Zambrotta is involved in the deal.

interesting that milan is out of europe for three years as well

maybe we could get kaka

i wonder who will end up with buffon? I know we dont need him (obviously), but it'll be interesting to see who gets him

Actually, I just read articles from a few different web sites and they all mention no CL this year only for Milan.

Milan will only miss next year's CL (with the current verdict). They arent suspended for another 2 years or anything.

Now that Juve when to Serie B let get Cannavaro and Zambrotta :hump:

so much people talking about emerson why isnty real going after Viera? or im i missing something

so much people talking about emerson why isnty real going after Viera? or im i missing something

I dont like Emerson and after what Vieria did to us, fu*k him too. Plus I would perfer a younger DM.

ye i was referring to the Media talking about Emersson, but yea i understand now thx

Capello and Emerson are in love with eachother, so you'll probably get him. Emerson even faked a depression to get away from Roma and re-unite with Capello. :amika:

Milan will only miss next year's CL (with the current verdict). They arent suspended for another 2 years or anything.
wait, I know this isnt their thread and all, but are they banned from Europe independently or something? Last year, they finished 14 points above the Viola in fourth. I could easily see them making a top 4 place this year

rvn to madrid is a done deal, just need to agree on transfer fee, cap wants him

talksport


How is it a done deal if they havn't agreed a fee?


Let the fun begin

wait, I know this isnt their thread and all, but are they banned from Europe independently or something? Last year, they finished 14 points above the Viola in fourth. I could easily see them making a top 4 place this year
they were docked 44 points from last season, so they are out of europe this season. I originally heard they will be banned from europe for 3 years, but apparently that wasnt true. They'll be starting with -15 points this season though. With a weakened serie a, they could easily finish top 4 again.

interesting that milan is out of europe for three years as well

maybe we could get kaka

i wonder who will end up with buffon? I know we dont need him (obviously), but it'll be interesting to see who gets him

mmm remember that ManUtd were trying to get casillas it seens that they are in need of a goalkeeper maybe they would get him or maybe he just want to stick up with juve dont really know:nape: :ewan:

Hey guys, it seems RvN is near to come. It would close doors to Soldado who probably will be loaned out to Celta or Nastic, and that sucks, but I can understand Capello in this point. Since winning a title this season is a must, we need a guaranteed and proven backup for Ronie, another player tha secure 20+ goals a season. No time for experiments in that critical position this year. I still hope that De la Red and Jurado get their chances in the midfield though.

My fear is that Capello would use Ronie and RvN at once, which would definetly suck. I know you're a little fed up with all the lineups, but I can't resist it this time (6) This is what I think would be the logical dispossal only with the signing of Ruud, having in count our squad composition, so we get to use our current best players avalaible. With no particular order:

-------------Gravo/Pablo Garcia--------------
-Beckham/?-------------------Robinho/Jurado-
---------------Guti/Baptista------------------
--------Ronaldo/RvN---Raul/Cassano----------

why would RVN + R9 suck?

one would be good for Lobbing crosses to, and the other can run at defenses. Plus both could hold up the ball for the mids to run on to, or turn and shoot if the ball is played to their feet.

that would mean a 4-4-2 instead of a 4-5-1 which i was never a fan of. more options in attack seems like a good thing to me.

so is Ruud van Nistelrooy the 1st player to be signed by Madrid? or will one of the Juve trio beat him to it?

and is Solado the 1st to leave Madrid? (even on a temporary basis) or will R.Carlos' transfer come quicker?

oh and i believe that the punishment handed out to the Italian teams was fair. All except AC Milan. Why stripped of 15 points yet not sent down a league? o well. the power has shifted amongst the Italian scene. i hope this helps smaller teams get their chance to shine!

face - can't see ruud being a backup for ronaldo.

but I'd say your "current line up" thing would be almost correct
Cicinho/Robinho both could play on RM tough as back ups.

This could be bullsh!t, but...

AS has come to know through sources that Kaka is furious with the points deduction and the prospect of no Champions Leauge football, he thinks Milan are as good as trophyless for next season.

He is desperate not to damage his relationship with the Rosseneri fans, so he will wait to see if Mijatovic can agree a fee with Berlusconi first. If not, he will apparently hand in a transfer request.

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Kaka/medita/plantarse/decision/judicial/dasftb/20060715dasdaiftb_5/Tes/

Mijatovic will travel to Turin on monday to close the deals for Cannavaro, Zambrotta and Emerson. :)

real might not get ruud because i read some where in marca that 88% of madrid fans dont want him to come so hopefully he wont come.
pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase Real lesten to the fans.

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/e5fb06cassanop.jpg

:funny:

real might not get ruud because i read some where in marca that 88% of madrid fans dont want him to come so hopefully he wont come.
pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase Real lesten to the fans.

So you really think he's not gonna come cause most fans don't want him there, wake up and smell the coffee it's the board that decides and not the fans. The deal is almost done and Calderon wants him and so does Capello so my guess is that he will be presented next week.
I don't understand the negativitiy around RvN really, he makes at least 20+ goals in one season, he works hard and he is deadly in the box. Sure he had a bad season in Manchester but that had everything to do with the fact that Ferguson benched him most of the time and that he was not feeling well anymore in the team but I'm sure he will score many goals for Real Madrid. Much more than Ronaldo and don't forget that Ronaldo is getting surgery today and will be out in the first months to come so you need a striker like RvN. Capello is right about that!

So you really think he's not gonna come cause most fans don't want him there, wake up and smell the coffee it's the board that decides and not the fans. The deal is almost done and Calderon wants him and so does Capello so my guess is that he will be presented next week.
I don't understand the negativitiy around RvN really, he makes at least 20+ goals in one season, he works hard and he is deadly in the box. Sure he had a bad season in Manchester but that had everything to do with the fact that Ferguson benched him most of the time and that he was not feeling well anymore in the team but I'm sure he will score many goals for Real Madrid. Much more than Ronaldo and don't forget that Ronaldo is getting surgery today and will be out in the first months to come so you need a striker like RvN. Capello is right about that!

I dont hate RVN but I would Luca Toni. I would hate it if we got RVN and kept Ronaldo, this would shut the door for Soldado which will suck.

So you really think he's not gonna come cause most fans don't want him there, wake up and smell the coffee it's the board that decides and not the fans. The deal is almost done and Calderon wants him and so does Capello so my guess is that he will be presented next week.
I don't understand the negativitiy around RvN really, he makes at least 20+ goals in one season, he works hard and he is deadly in the box. Sure he had a bad season in Manchester but that had everything to do with the fact that Ferguson benched him most of the time and that he was not feeling well anymore in the team but I'm sure he will score many goals for Real Madrid. Much more than Ronaldo and don't forget that Ronaldo is getting surgery today and will be out in the first months to come so you need a striker like RvN. Capello is right about that!
yeah he scores goals but the fans dont just like players who just score goals he is not good enough and the fans will not like him. Bieng a madrid player isnt just about scoring goals it about more than that take raul for example he hasnt scored for real madrid this calender year but the fans still love him because he works hard for the sake of the team and has a good atitude unlike vanistelrooy.

']http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/e5fb06cassanop.jpg

:funny:

Got a bit of shedding to do I see.

yeah he scores goals but the fans dont just like players who just score goals he is not good enough and the fans will not like him. Bieng a madrid player isnt just about scoring goals it about more than that take raul for example he hasnt scored for real madrid this calender year but the fans still love him because he works hard for the sake of the team and has a good atitude unlike vanistelrooy.

Don't talk about things you know nothing about, it's clear to me you don't know RvN at all :nape:
If there is one guy who works off his butt for his team it's Ruud, he never ever said anything bad about Manchester United OR Ferguson that's the gentleman he is and he's a true sportsman who works real hard for the team.
Ah well it's like preaching to the choir, you just have to see for yourself and we will talk halfway the season.

Got a bit of shedding to do I see.

Yea I hear he has been having troube in training...gee I wonder why :rolleyes:

I hope Capello let Juanfran stay in Madrid this season. he would be the perfect competition for Becks.

the rumor was true. Real Madrid will play in Ramón de Carranza Cup on 18-19 August. teams participating will be Real Madrid, Cadiz, Betis and possibly Inter Milan.

ruud will sign a 3 year contract..i trust capello with this one

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Van/Nistelrooy/firmara/temporadas/dasftb/20060715dasdaiftb_7/Tes/

also, woody, raul bravo and baptista were the fastest players in training, cassano the slowest :rolleyes:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Bravo/Baptista/Woodgate/rapidos/Cassano/lento/dasftb/20060715dasdasftb_4/Tes/

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson---Zambrotta--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Carlos--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------
:lui:

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson--------Carlos--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Robinho--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson---Zambrotta--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Carlos--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------
:lui:

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson--------Carlos--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Robinho--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------

Not to be rude or anything but will you post anything other than lineups ( should really limit that ) or talking about how Carlos is a God to you?

Yea datboy its true we are going to play that on the 18-19 of August. I posted that a couple of posts back.

IMO posting line ups is allright - but at least write something to come along with it, some explanations, thoughts etc

IMO posting line ups is allright - but at least write something to come along with it, some explanations, thoughts etc

Well he has not posted much here other than lineups and talking about RC. But yea if he post something with it I would not mind so much.

dito Socrates :jap:

When does LaLiga start and when do the fixtures come out ?

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Don't talk about things you know nothing about, it's clear to me you don't know RvN at all :nape:
If there is one guy who works off his butt for his team it's Ruud, he never ever said anything bad about Manchester United OR Ferguson that's the gentleman he is and he's a true sportsman who works real hard for the team.
Ah well it's like preaching to the choir, you just have to see for yourself and we will talk halfway the season.
Well if he is such a gentelmen how comes alex furgosen doesnt want him any more and thinks he is not good enough yet and he spent much of last half of the season on the bench.

ruud will sign a 3 year contract..i trust capello with this one

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Van/Nistelrooy/firmara/temporadas/dasftb/20060715dasdaiftb_7/Tes/

also, woody, raul bravo and baptista were the fastest players in training, cassano the slowest :rolleyes:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Bravo/Baptista/Woodgate/rapidos/Cassano/lento/dasftb/20060715dasdasftb_4/Tes/
Im sure of it...Cassano will get in shape! He is fantastic when in shape!! I really trust Capello on this case, as in RvN's case!

Ronaldo sugery went ahead succefully today and the doctors will give a press confrence with other real madrid officials. The say hell be back training 27th of july. So that means he wont be fully fit untill about september so knowing ronaldo he wont be match fit untill november so thats ok.
But we are going to need a centre forward but i want it to be toni or trazeguet not vanistelrooy.
A new centre forward will make Ronaldo not a defenitive starter so that means he will hve to compete for a place and try harder in geting in shape.

Well if he is such a gentelmen how comes alex furgosen doesnt want him any more and thinks he is not good enough yet and he spent much of last half of the season on the bench.

Because Ferguson is an asshole, thanks to him players left the club because he had an argument with him: Jaap Stam, Beckham, Keane and now Ruud.
Get over it, Ruud is coming to Madrid so deal with it :rolleyes:
He is going to sign for three years.
Oh and where did you read that crap about Ferguson thinking he is not good enough yet?? Ferguson never said this or post a source to backup your story.

You don't like him to come to Real Madrid and a lot of other fans neither but you think the board cares about that.....? get real :nape:

Because Ferguson is an asshole, thanks to him players left the club because he had an argument with him: Jaap Stam, Beckham, Keane and now Ruud.
Get over it, Ruud is coming to Madrid so deal with it :rolleyes:
He is going to sign for three years.
Oh and where did you read that crap about Ferguson thinking he is not good enough yet?? Ferguson never said this or post a source to backup your story.

You don't like him to come to Real Madrid and a lot of other fans neither but you think the board cares about that.....? get real :nape:
Hey if you like ruud so much ill get you hes telephone number and u can have bum sex him tonight. :ewan:

Hey if you like ruud so much ill get you hes telephone number and u can have bum sex him tonight. :ewan:

Like I said get a life, get over it deal with it nOOb :rolleyes:
Oh and learn good English cause yours suck, I don't have a clue what your talking about, must be something you picked up at the gaybar you were last night :rofl:

Like I said get a life, get over it deal with it nOOb :rolleyes:
Oh and learn good English cause yours suck, I don't have a clue what your talking about, must be something you picked up at the gaybar you were last night :rofl:
Is that best come back you have.haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa WOANKER

you even misspelled that one nOOb it's wAnker but you see that when you look into the mirror :fool:

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson---Zambrotta--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Carlos--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------
:lui:

-------------Casillas------------
---------Ramos---Cannavaro-------
--Cicinho---Emerson--------Carlos--
-------------------Guti----------
-----------Kaka----------Robinho--
--Beckham------------------------
----------------Ronaldo----------
i'm sorry but what is this ****?

could we refrain from making lineups year round? I mean we havent made one transfer yet and people have posted 800 different lineups. Wait until our squad is complete before doing all of this :nape:

Previous page quality = :sb9: :D

i'm sorry but what is this ****?

could we refrain from making lineups year round? I mean we havent made one transfer yet and people have posted 800 different lineups. Wait until our squad is complete before doing all of this :nape:
well seeing how like line ups so much here is mine. :hump:

...........................casillas............... ........................

cicinho............cannavaro.......ramos.......... ....zambrotta

beckham.........diarra.............requilme....... .....c.ronaldo

......................ronaldo............robinho.. .....................

Previous page quality = :sb9: :D

Indeed, I have not even read that whole page and what a bunch of :sb9: those few posts were. Atleast it was a bit funny :D

Im sure of it...Cassano will get in shape! He is fantastic when in shape!! I really trust Capello on this case, as in RvN's case!

Cassano is a great player but he must get in shape!! For RvN if he come i hope Capello know what to do with him.

well seeing how like line ups so much here is mine. :hump:

...........................casillas............... ........................

cicinho............cannavaro.......ramos.......... ....zambrotta

beckham.........diarra.............requilme....... .....c.ronaldo

......................ronaldo............robinho.. .....................

no way you will get diarra AND Riquelme AND C.ronaldo

Yeah, there's no way Madrid will get this Requilme guy.






This thread has now officially hit rock bottom.

well seeing how like line ups so much here is mine. :hump:

...........................casillas............... ........................

cicinho............cannavaro.......ramos.......... ....zambrotta

beckham.........diarra.............requilme....... .....c.ronaldo

......................ronaldo............robinho.. .....................

ehh dude what about Van Nistelroy and Emerson??? and baptista he should be in the starting lineup :chew:

This thread has now officially hit rock bottom.
hahah (H)

Wow. this thread has gone to F*cking hell.

Please try not to just post lineups, explain them a bit, and put some insight to it, the last pages were sh*t


Also, jaouadinho, just to let you know, you can edit your posts instead of having one-sentence posts or sh*t like this on the last page.

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:|


Come on.

EDIT: ok, now some news from AS. Don't know what to think of it (6)

van Nistelrooy will come on a transfer like Beckham's (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Van/Nistelrooy/vendra/contrato/estilo/Beckham/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_22/Tes/)
DB's transfer fee was based on team incentives in the Champions League.

Real Madrid will offer up to 50 million euros for Kaka (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/ira/Kaka/millones/euros/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_21/Tes/)
Allegedly Kaka isn't happy with the verdict against Milan and Real Madrid will try to swoop him up.

Mijatovic will go to Turin tomorrow to close out deal. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Cannavaro/decide/fichara/Madrid/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_19/Tes/)
Mijatovic will go to Turin to close out Cannavaro's transfer and try to bring Zambrotta and Emerson with him. Fabio apparently turned down Chelsea and Milan, while Zambrotta said no to Milan also.

After Turin, Mijatovic wants to go to London and try to get Robben from Chelsea. R.Carlos could possibly be in the deal. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Robben/siguiente/lista/Mijatovic/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_23/Tes/)
:confused:

lmao... :lui:


Plymouth Argyle will be one of our pre-season games on July 21. :fool:

check out their manager's reaction :rockman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gArFCv49gDA

pure gold.

Holloway is a legend. Im sure everyone's seen his reaction while at QPR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YBgp_LaPWc&search=ian%20holloway

hahaha

I just read on this website I dont know if u guys know about it but here is the link www.as.com (http://www.as.com) is in spanish but it seens that by the end of the week we are going to have almost all the tranfers completed :hump: :rockman:

haha the video (H)

who is this guy? hope he gets into the EPL. someone needs to challenge Mourinho

lmao... :lui:


Plymouth Argyle will be one of our pre-season games on July 21. :fool:

check out their manager's reaction :rockman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gArFCv49gDA

pure gold.

haha, great clip.

Real Madrid will offer up to 50 million euros for Kaka (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/ira/Kaka/millones/euros/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_21/Tes/)
Allegedly Kaka isn't happy with the verdict against Milan and Real Madrid will try to swoop him up.

Well, happy he wouldn't be...still it would be ugly for him to leave now after a 5-year extension considering Milan is even in Serie A, and as it seems you guys wouldn't fancy spending 50m like this.

After Turin, Mijatovic wants to go to London and try to get Robben from Chelsea. R.Carlos could possibly be in the deal. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Robben/siguiente/lista/Mijatovic/dasftb/20060716dasdaiftb_23/Tes/)
:confused:


It would be a coup if you ever achieve this, Chelsea fans would curse their management life long. Not only, as sugest "only" 18m to sign him, contrasting to 50m for Kaká. Indeed :confused:

I just read on this website I dont know if u guys know about it but here is the link www.as.com is in spanish but it seens that by the end of the week we are going to have almost all the tranfers completed

:rolleyes:

Cannavaro decided to move and sign the year-old contract with Real.

Cannavaro decided to move and sign the year-old contract with Real.

I will believe it when I see it, too much rumor going around atm.

Nice videos there TBB and Rusi:D

50 million for Kaka, damn what a waste.

I will believe it when I see it, too much rumor going around atm.

Nice videos there TBB and Rusi:D

50 million for Kaka, damn what a waste.
I'm telling you only that what Spanish journal "As" wrote. :)

I'm telling you only that what Spanish journal "As" wrote. :)

AS is not the most realiable source though...

50 mill. for Kaka is not waste. Zizou was 75 million.

He is one of the most talented players in the world, very young, and Zizou's natural successor, it would be brilliant if we got him.

50 million for Kaka, damn what a waste.


No it is not, for a young player with his talent and skill what do you expect to pay? 15 million?

50 mill. for Kaka is not waste. Zizou was 75 million.

He is one of the most talented players in the world, very young, and Zizou's natural successor, it would be brilliant if we got him.

Kaka is not Zizou and I think now we have more important position to fill rather than a spot that I think we are already good for.

It would be good to get Kaka only if we need him and if we had a complete team already but that is not the case.

Of course he is not one of our priorities. Kaka has all the potential to be the next Zizou, and if we get a chance, we should get him.

Diarra, Cannavaro, and IMO possibly a creator like Gago are/should be our priorities. After them Zambrotta should be next, but we don't need him nor do we need Emerson, although they will be, especially Gianluca, improvements to what we have now. After that, if we have money and Kaka is available in any way, we then make a move for him. Unfortunately we are spending money on RvN who seems to be very soon a Merengue.

Of course he is not one of our priorities. Kaka has all the potential to be the next Zizou, and if we get a chance, we should get him.

Diarra, Cannavaro, and IMO possibly a creator like Gago are/should be our priorities. After them Zambrotta should be next, but we don't need him nor do we need Emerson, although they will be, especially Gianluca, improvements to what we have now. After that, if we have money and Kaka is available in any way, we then make a move for him. Unfortunately we are spending money on RvN who seems to be very soon a Merengue.

Actually if RC leaves than we do need Zambrotta ( well I dont want RC here anymore so for me a LB is needed more ), I would not want R. Bravo to be our starting LB. I dont want Emerson but Fabio is in love with him. Diarra is questionable as I think he will cost too much and there are other DM's out there, yes to Cannavaro and a CM.

I just dont think its wise to spend half of our money on one player when we need many players. Plus we have enough players to play in a formation that does not need a clear AMC but instead a support striker. I just dont think we are in the position to make such a move.

Actually if RC leaves than we do need Zambrotta ( well I dont want RC here anymore so for me a LB is needed more ), I would not want R. Bravo to be our starting LB.

Obviously I agree, but my point was that if we didn't get Zambrotta, we'd still have RC to fall back on, or we can get another LB(Del Horno, Abidal, Cole)

I dont want Emerson but Fabio is in love with him. Diarra is questionable as I think he will cost too much and there are other DM's out there,

Diarra to me is a must. We won't get Masche, and he is the only one on par to Diarra. Diarra IMO is worth atleast 25 million.


I just dont think its wise to spend half of our money on one player when we need many players. Plus we have enough players to play in a formation that does not need a clear AMC but instead a support striker. I just dont think we are in the position to make such a move

If we have the money, and he is available, I think we should make it because there are few players with his talent in the world.

so it looks like that these 4 come in

1 CB Cannavaro
1 FB Zambrotta
1 DM Emerson
1 FW Nistelrooy

Well I'd be very very happy with these reinforcements, but I'd prefer to have another DM than Emerson.

That better not be it. ;)

and it won't be

there's no way we can pass up a talent like kaka, milan would never consider selling him if they werent docked points and banned from europe. Now's the time to get him

I'd rather have too much offensive talent then not enough at this point

Diarra to me is a must. We won't get Masche, and he is the only one on par to Diarra. Diarra IMO is worth atleast 25 million.

If we have the money, and he is available, I think we should make it because there are few players with his talent in the world.

Lyon has said that his price is 25 million pounds...I dont think he is worth that much. I think Mascherano is better than Diarra ( why wont he leave? ). We could also go for a Spanish player I have been talking about for quite a while now...Oubina.

We wont have the money after all of our other transfers are done, I think we have something around 100 million euros to spend ( actually we might have less, I am not sure about it ). Like I said, Kaka would be awsome here but at the moment we are not in a position to go after him.

why wont he leave?

I think if the chance came along, he would, however his club are very reluctant to sell, and they want BIG money for him.

Obviously I agree, but my point was that if we didn't get Zambrotta, we'd still have RC to fall back on, or we can get another LB(Del Horno, Abidal, Cole)
I was under the impression that Del Horno was locked up by Valencia.

Kaka is a great player and similar to Zidane in dribbling and scoring ability, but he is not the amazing passer that Zizou is in my opinion.

I thought Zambrotta was a RB.

Zambrotta can play both RB and LB comfortably.

From BBC from Marca for those who can't read Spanish -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5185542.stm

Ruud, it seems, will be a Madridista. Read it. :S

congrats on getting cannavaro and zambrotta

i'm not a huge ruud fan, but i think he'll surprise the doubters, he's a proven goal scorer and i have complete faith in capello

oh lord...we dont need him.
maybe the Beckham-Ruud connection will make it worthwhile tho.

congrats on getting cannavaro and zambrotta

Thanks, but I wouldn't congratulate just yet.

There is nothing official.

Nice interview with Baptista here http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma32355.htm

I know I was cruel to him last year but man Baptista is a really good player to have on our team, I really like his attitude. (Y) I hear he has been working really hard during the summer to get into top gear, lets hope he shows the same form as he did at the end of last year.

Another cool article
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma32354.htm

i just hope we keep baptista :S

Don´t worry about La Bestia. im sure he wont be sold. especially now that Cap said he doesnt want him.

suit's the White colors pretty well, dont you think? :amika:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/227/sdvm6.jpg

you cant compare Kaká to Zidane..

though they play the same position, their roles are very different.

Zidane is a person who comes deep, takes on one or two players and then deliver the killer pass.

Kaká does come deep, but not as often. His play is more as the third forward. If he comes deep, he takes on one or two, and shoots.. His mind is more to goalscoring than creating.


but seriously though, you guys dont need him. go away dammit.




AIMAR, RIQUELME.

']AIMAR, RIQUELME.

I'd love to get them,but our management doesn't want them.

Aimar is more like Kaka aswell, Riquelme is very alike to Ziou in the way he plays though.

I don't understand why we don't make a move for him, heplays at a much smaller club

Kaká > Riquelme > Aimar

i dont understand it either..

Riquelme is very alike to Ziou in the way he plays though.



no :ewan: , Riquelme has never had change of pace.


i saw both of 'em (Riquelme and Aimar) when they played for Boca and River, Aimar is better he just never had the chance to play as a real playmaker.

now after all you are Real Madrid and you should go for Kaka.

i can't wait to see the new Capello Real Madrid, do you guys think hes gonna play deep like back in the day or is he gonna sorprise everybody by playing highly attacking football?.

Kaká > Riquelme > Aimar

i dont understand it either..
not only that, he's the youngest too

plus, for the millionth time, aimar is too injury prone. This is why we should get rid of woody as well, no matter how talented they are, they wont be helping the team if they are watching from the stands

i can't wait to see the new Capello Real Madrid, do you guys think hes gonna play deep like back in the day or is he gonna sorprise everybody by playing highly attacking football?.

Capello and attacking football...not possible. It will be defensive I am sure of that. Ramos will learn how to be a great defender and will be awsome at long passes come the end of the season. Actually a lot of players will know what it means to defend and it will be a very organized defence that I am sure off. Inface I think Capello will play like your NT coach did, a 4-2-3-1 with two DM's that basically destroys the midfield.

I will be very suprised if he plays attacking football.

not only that, he's the youngest too

plus, for the millionth time, aimar is too injury prone. This is why we should get rid of woody as well, no matter how talented they are, they wont be helping the team if they are watching from the stands

If Real Madrid invest in bring Kaka it will be a great decision. He still young and i am sure the best Kaka it yet to be seen and to have him in Real Madrid will be nice.

Mijatovic has said that in this, his first season, wants to do whatever it takes to win La Liga, so I expect the worst, which is not our typical beautiful football.

Seems like this is what we are looking at right now -


---------Diarra/Gago-------Emerson/Gago
Beckham-----Cassano/Raul-----Robinho
--------------Ronaldo/RvN

Also throw in C.Ronaldo maybe at RM, Robben possibly left, and maybe Kaka in the middle.

Kaka: "Intrest from Real Madrid makes me happy." (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Kaka/halaga/Madrid/quiera/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_18/Tes/)

- Kaka says, "I will only move if Real Madrid reach an agreement that makes Milan happy aswell as myself, but mainly A.C. Milan. :hump:


In Madrid, Kaka would have a Galactic Salary. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/brasileno/tendria/sueldo/galactico/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_19/Tes/)

Abromavich would pay 100 million euros for Kaka. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Abramovich/dispuesto/dar/millones/Kaka/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_20/Tes/) :| ha.nice try AS

Mijatovic begins a crucial week for transfers. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Mijatovic/afronta/semana/clave/fichar/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_21/Tes/)

He will try for Juventus Trio, Kaka, finish RvN deal, get Cesc, and get Robben :|


23 players travel to Irdning today, Monday. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/23/jugadores/viajan/Irdning/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_24/Tes/)

I know style is very important, especially in Spain, but im sure you all agree that 3 years trophyless is just unacceptable.

I get the feeling that with a real manager, you wont be dropping points to midtable sides anymore. If the league title doesnt go down to the wire (one of you, Barca, or Valencia fall off somehow) I will be pretty shocked


I bet if you swing and miss on Kaka (cmon, he's upset about the punishements? Punishment has been a near certaintly for weeks now) then Riquelme will be amazing consolation prize.

Also, what ever happened to you guys going after Vicente as your left winger?

Also, what ever happened to you guys going after Vicente as your left winger?

He wont come to us, we have tried in the past. Valencia wont sell him to us and I doubt he would join us as we have tired this before.

I bet if you swing and miss on Kaka (cmon, he's upset about the punishements? Punishment has been a near certaintly for weeks now) then Riquelme will be amazing consolation prize.

Bulk of the article -

"I will only move to Real Madrid if they arrive at an agreement that will make me and Milan happy, but especially Milan".

"Me and my family are settled in Milan, and that's why I renewed my contract until 2011. I am not going to force my departure, I want to make that clear."

Despite this, Real Madrid officials have assured that they make contact with Bosco Leite, Kaká's father, almost every day and that eventually, Kaká will hand in a transfer request if an agreement can not be reached with AC Milan first.

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Now if those quotes are true, which I imagine they should be, it is a total change from "I want to play for Milan, and I am not interested in Madrid".

Also, going on, maybe, just maybe he wants to leave without leaving a bad image to the fans(of Milan). Also, it is intresting that he says this the day before Mijatovic goes to Italy. I think we have about a 20% chance of signing him but it's looking brighter. We'll see how this plays out. (6)


I agree with you about Riquelme man, Hopefully the club sees the same. Maybe (although I hate to wish it upon Villarreal) it'd be best if they lost the 2nd leg of the Intertoto cup and missed out on the Uefa Cup? :(


Also, what ever happened to you guys going after Vicente as your left winger?

Valencia won't negociate with us :( We have tried countless times but Valencia don't budge. Also, I am pretty sure he is from Valencia. Same happened to us with Ayala 3-4 years ago. The deal was 99% complete, but Valencia pulled out at the last second. Another reason why I doubt we'd get Pablito. :rolleyes:

About Vicente, I'd love to get him, he's Spanish, and accustomed to the style. I'd rather get him than Robben who I dobt we'll get anyway, but it just will never happen.

The quotes suggest more that Kaká is staying than leaving. Yet somehow the whole story is twisted to imply he's eager to join Real.. heh :D

I guess it depends how you look at it. :(

He's definitely not saying, "I will not go to Real Madrid", and that is what gives me hope.

well, if you ask me, honestly, these quotes are common when a club is interested in a player. rarely does a player really play down the whole thing.

i'm not holding my breath for kaka...i'd love to have him, but i doubt it seriously

what is going to happen with guti? I am worried he might leave this year, it looks like he'll have a reduced role. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Mijatovic has said that in this, his first season, wants to do whatever it takes to win La Liga, so I expect the worst, which is not our typical beautiful football.

Seems like this is what we are looking at right now -


---------Diarra/Gago-------Emerson/Gago
Beckham-----Cassano/Raul-----Robinho
--------------Ronaldo/RvN

Also throw in C.Ronaldo maybe at RM, Robben possibly left, and maybe Kaka in the middle.

Kaka: "Intrest from Real Madrid makes me happy." (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Kaka/halaga/Madrid/quiera/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_18/Tes/)

- Kaka says, "I will only move if Real Madrid reach an agreement that makes Milan happy aswell as myself, but mainly A.C. Milan. :hump:


In Madrid, Kaka would have a Galactic Salary. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/brasileno/tendria/sueldo/galactico/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_19/Tes/)

Abromavich would pay 100 million euros for Kaka. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Abramovich/dispuesto/dar/millones/Kaka/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_20/Tes/) :| ha.nice try AS

Mijatovic begins a crucial week for transfers. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Mijatovic/afronta/semana/clave/fichar/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_21/Tes/)

He will try for Juventus Trio, Kaka, finish RvN deal, get Cesc, and get Robben :|


23 players travel to Irdning today, Monday. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/23/jugadores/viajan/Irdning/dasftb/20060717dasdaiftb_24/Tes/)

Spanish media love to make up stories and tell lies to the people, everybody knows that Milan is staying with Kaka, and come on he already has a galactic salary with his new contract.

Dutch media report today that Ruud will be presented tomorrow in Madrid, both clubs and RvN reached an agreement.
David Gill (owner MU) wants to talk to Calderon personally but it's a done deal!

i hope its true.. :o

Capello Losing Patience Over Ronaldo

Fabio Capello is miffed that Ronaldo chose to get operated upon much against advice from the club's medical team, and that after wasting two full weeks.

Real's doctors had examined Ronaldo following the World Cup, and suggested that some rest followed by physiotherapy and exercise would suffice.

However, Ronaldo chose to return to Brazil and get operated upon, much against the club's wishes. But what really seems to have enraged Capello is the timing.

That Ronaldo chose to wait for two weeks following Brazil's World Cup campaign, and get operated upon closer to his impending return for pre-season training, seems to have blown Capello's fuse.

Don Fabio believes this was done to prolong his time away from action, particularly from the intensive pre-season fitness training, as well as create problems for Real were they to try to offload him.

Ronaldo will now miss the entire pre-season, including the camp in Aarhus, and is unlikely to return to full training before the second week of August.

Capello had earlier been quoted as saying that he could see Ronaldo getting back to his best if he worked hard on fitness, as he was only 29. However, he has now informed the club to sound out potential buyers, and is keen to give El Fenomeno a 'special' welcome upon return to training.

source: Goal.com

nomatter if that article is true or not about Capello and Ronaldos OP it does have some truth in it, don't you think ?


Can't wair for the official Ruud IN confirmation. :lui:

i think there's ALOT of truth in that article.

anyone know where i can see the tv schedule for Real Madrid TV?
i lost all my bookmarks. :(

source: Goal.com
A 'Special' welcome....hmm...what could that mean?! ;) I think he will get to run the whole 24 hrs when he returns :) BTW, I really hate to say:( , but I read that R9 was seen at a nightclub a day after his operation. Well, WTF?!?! :kader:

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http://www.eurosport.com/football/la-liga/2006-2007/sport_sto927198.shtml
Here it says that we should offer 45 mil for the 3 of Juventus. What do you guys think of that?! Isnt this too much?! Well, IMO Canavaro is the best defender out there, but 45mil!!! Thats huge for 3 players that are pretty old. Zambrotta is 29 years old. Not that old, but still, he isnt the youngest anymore ;)

Does all this Ronaldo news suprise you guys? I already post back a coupel of pages ago that he already did something the club did not want him to and its not the first time he does this kind of thing. Its sad that Capello wants to keep him.

Does all this Ronaldo news suprise you guys? I already post back a coupel of pages ago that he already did something the club did not want him to and its not the first time he does this kind of thing. Its sad that Capello wants to keep him.
No no, it doesnt surprise me at all. Ronaldo is a very known partyboy. But still im really dissapointed that he does it right after his OP. We cant forbid him to party now and then, but he does it too often! :kader: :kader: :kader:

does going to a nightclub =partying =gettnig drunk=irresponsible?
especially since he has nothing to do for 15 days?

RObnaldo is the bomb

does going to a nightclub =partying =gettnig drunk=irresponsible?
especially since he has nothing to do for 15 days?

*Sigh* I would say something to you but there is not point to it. I bet Ronaldo could do whatever and he would still be a God for you. Its not about this incident, its about many other things that he has done while he has been here. Just make an I love Ronaldo thread and post in there, ok.

Here it says that we should offer 45 mil for the 3 of Juventus. What do you guys think of that?! Isnt this too much?!Well, that's 15 m for one of the best CB in the world, 15 m for the best side back, and 15 m for one of the best DM. I think it's ok to pay that.

Yeh but there only going to last you 2 years at their prime form, i guess you guys want Instant success though,this will put you on the road to getting it

Well, that's 15 m for one of the best CB in the world, 15 m for the best side back, and 15 m for one of the best DM. I think it's ok to pay that.

No way, Emerson one of the best DM? You sure about that face:D. Like justhammy said they are pretty old and I think 45 million is too much money for players that can peform like that for what 2 or 3 seasons.

No way, Emerson one of the best DM? You sure about that face:D. Like justhammy said they are pretty old and I think 45 million is too much money for players that can peform like that for what 2 or 3 seasons.Despite his age I still rate him highly. But the best thing about Emerson is that he already knows how he must play under Capello. That means instant adaptation -> instant high performance.

And like PapaGeorGeo well says, it's not time to think 5 year forward, we need solutions now. Natural replacements for the future will come out from our youth system, no doubt about that.

The best thing about Emerson is that he already knows how he must play under Capello. That means instant adaptation -> instant high performance.

And like PapaGeorGeo well says, it's not time to think 5 year forward, we need solutions now. Natural replacements for the future will come out from our youth system, no doubt about that.

He might know how to play under Capello but 15 M will be a ripoff for us. I think there are better players out there that can give us more high performance than Emerson. I dont think it will take them that long to adapt.

Heh, that is if they use our ***cing youth system :f***: I think that its foolish to spend that much.

The best thing about Emerson is that he already knows how he must play under Capello. That means instant adaptation -> instant high performance.

And like PapaGeorGeo well says, it's not time to think 5 year forward, we need solutions now. Natural replacements for the future will come out from our youth system, no doubt about that.



Although there not going to come out of your Youth system, no system is that good, including Ajaxs.

If you bought younger players such as Derossi or Tevez who are very good but not old you could build at team

It is a team sport, you cant jsut put a team on indivudals together and expect it to work eg galagticos

And like PapaGeorGeo well says, it's not time to think 5 year forward, we need solutions now. Natural replacements for the future will come out from our youth system, no doubt about that.

Oh and one more thing, just because we got experienced older playres does not mean it will be succesful, look at last season. I would say that the younger guys did better for us :jap: So we can buy young players and win at the same time.

The signing of zambrotta, canavarro, and ruud looks promising for the next 3 seasons :rockman:

I've never said old players= success. But in this particular case buying 3 experienced players, that already know how to play together and whose quality is undoubted is a secure for the team and would save a lot of work to us.

I've never said old players= success. But in this particular case buying 3 experienced players, that already know how to play together and whose quality is undoubted is a secure for the team and would save a lot of work to us.

Actually I was responding to when you said we need solutions now and not 5 years from now ( I am guessing you are talking about taking up Emerson instead of a yougner player? ). If not than sorry, I have understod what you said.

BTW I hear that Capello wants to shrink the squad down to 23 players for the first team, you hear anything about this face?

Emerson isnt bad at all....he is very good actually. The only thing I hate in him is that he is soooo damn slow!!! Btw, Ruud is gonna be presented tomorrow?! Is that true?! IF he will play at us, then i hope he will get a crap number ;) Like 44 or 15 or something like that ;) But seriously i hope Capello knows what he is doing. I dont want us to turn into that stupid long balls play they have in England (long balls to Crouch) sometimes. Because now its gonna be like this....

-Casillas has the ball, he throws it to Ramos, Ramos plays it to Cicinho, Cicinho to Beckham, Beckham with one of those long balls to Ruud...repeat that 5 times and you might get a goal.- :boohoo:

But Ruud is a great finisher and I wont say anything bad about him(well only that im not a fan of his play and that I think that even I can play better then him;)), because I know he'll score goals for sure!

At least we are making some moves now! And tomorrow will be the day that we get informed pretty well on those transfers!

At least we are making some moves now! And tomorrow will be the day that we get informed pretty well on those transfers!Let's hope so. Today was supposed to be a day full of news with Pedja travelling to Turin but you can see...

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1047f86llegadacapello288p.jpg
"Heyyy!!" (Madrid arrived to Austria)

nomatter if that article is true or not about Capello and Ronaldos OP it does have some truth in it, don't you think ?


Can't wair for the official Ruud IN confirmation. :lui:
i seriously think ronaldo did this at purpose.. if he wanted to get in shape,he would have done things much different....
missing pre-season is just pathetic, hope capello gets him to work his ass off as soon as hes recovered

season hasn't even started and ronaldo is already to his old ways :rolleyes: :nape: ..

BTW I hear that Capello wants to shrink the squad down to 23 players for the first team, you hear anything about this face?

yeah its true. he didnt like the way Soldado made in and out jumps to the squad like last season. he wants stability and security. so those who gets picked for the 1st team are there for the whole season.

i like this. it creates some kind of order in the squad. :)
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tomorrow there wil be lots of news, because Mijatovic and Baldini will have a meeting with Juve´s chief executive.

apparently Cap wants Balzaretti also? why the hell would we need him? only if we get rid of Salgado. or else we will have 3 RB's.

Emerson isnt bad at all....he is very good actually. The only thing I hate in him is that he is soooo damn slow!!! Btw, Ruud is gonna be presented tomorrow?! Is that true?! IF he will play at us, then i hope he will get a crap number ;) Like 44 or 15 or something like that ;) But seriously i hope Capello knows what he is doing. I dont want us to turn into that stupid long balls play they have in England (long balls to Crouch) sometimes. Because now its gonna be like this....

-Casillas has the ball, he throws it to Ramos, Ramos plays it to Cicinho, Cicinho to Beckham, Beckham with one of those long balls to Ruud...repeat that 5 times and you might get a goal.- :boohoo:

But Ruud is a great finisher and I wont say anything bad about him(well only that im not a fan of his play and that I think that even I can play better then him;)), because I know he'll score goals for sure!

At least we are making some moves now! And tomorrow will be the day that we get informed pretty well on those transfers!
you can only wear numbers 1-25 in spain on the first team, so no 44 for ruud :jambo:

we made an offer for ze roberto (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403900&CPID=22&clid=186&lid=&title=Rivaldo+woos+Ze+Roberto) :confused:

well atm free numbers are
5
17
25

but since almost non of the current players know if they're still here after 31st August - plenty can change.

These are IMO the candidates to make room for the new arivals

2 Salgado
3 Carlos
6 Helguera
9 Ronaldo
12 Garcia
13 Lopez
16 Gravesen
20 Minambers
21 Diogo
22 Pavon

I just hope Juanfran gets to show what he's worth this season. i think he can do a great job on the right wing when he jumps in for Becks.

dont you think this would give us a very good and speedy attack?

----Juanfran-------Baptista--------Robinho----
------------Ruud-------------Soldado---------

I'd keep
2 Salgado - He always played good for us.
9 Ronaldo - But I'd bench him unil he regained his hunger. Let him watch Ruud play.
12 Garcia - I don't know why some of you are writing him off. He's actually pretty solid in midfield.
13 Lopez - Diego is also a really good backup GK
16 Gravesen - If he doesn't mind coming off the bench, it'll be great to have him on the squad.

as face said, the team has now arrived in Irdning, Austria. they will play 3 friendlies there. against Plymouth Argyle, a team of local players from Bad Aussee and Fulham FC.

21 July : Real Madrid vs Plymouth Argyle FC (in Kapfenberg)
25 July : Real Madrid vs Bad Aussee Team
29 July : Real Madrid vs Fulham FC (in Irdning)

i wonder if RM TV is showing these matches? :confused: :corn:

i would love 2 see real madrids line up like this...

casillas
cicinho
ramos
cannavaro (juventus)
carlos
ronaldo (man u)
maniche (dymano)
kaka (milan)
beckham
van nistelrooy (man u)
robinho

ur team would be so sik with these players in the lineup

It seems that Pirlo might leave, if that is so we should look into getting him. Especially if we can't get Kaka.

BTW Rui10Costa, here is what I think we're looking at atm(going along with our strongest Rumors)

------------------Casillas
-Cicinho--S.Ramos---Cannavaro---Zambrotta
--------------Diarra/Emerson
------------------------Gago/Emerson
----Beckham
----------Raul/Cassano/Kaka (6) --------Robinho
---------------Ronaldo/RvN

I have read that there are 4 clubs interested in Zambro, we are one of them and the other three are AC Milan, Barca ( :kader: ), and Chelsea. I think I read that in the next day or two he will decide who he goes too.

I heard that Ze Roberto is linked with us...:|.

Ze Roberto had a great World Cup, I wouldn't be that dissapointed, but we can do better.

I have a bad feeling that Zambrotta might end up at Chelsea :rolleyes:

I have a bad feeling that Zambrotta might end up at Chelsea :rolleyes:

I hope not but it will not suprise me if he does go to Chelsea. So far it seems like we have two players very close to singing, Ruud and Cannavaro.

Ze Roberto had a great World Cup, I wouldn't be that dissapointed, but we can do better.

I have a bad feeling that Zambrotta might end up at Chelsea :rolleyes:

Ze Roberto did a good WC but i don't think he will be comming to Real Madrid. I hope Zambrotta did end up at Chelsea, i prefer that he come to Real Madrid.

i'd prefer Pirlo over Emerson anyday! Pirlo fits well into the 2DM formation, can pass/create, and can help in attack aswell as (IMO) hit some of the best freekicks ever!

Pirlo cant defend.