SlowSilver
16-08-2006, 01:07:PM
Robinho.
Yeah, he is. I don't have any problem admitting that.
Yeah, he is. I don't have any problem admitting that.
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View Full Version : The Real Madrid Thread [2006 - 2007] SlowSilver 16-08-2006, 01:07:PM Robinho. Yeah, he is. I don't have any problem admitting that. Socrates 16-08-2006, 01:08:PM Robinho. Now altough I dont want 2 DM's in the center, which is what we will get with Diarra-Emerson. The guys is not a douche. Neither is Robinho. We already had a thread on this type of thing when Essien was doing it, if you guys want to argue about it than post in there or make a new thread ok:) We all know that his favorite team is RM (it has been like that even when he joined Lyon) which is why he was holding out on Man Utd/other teams so that we could starting trying to talk to Lyon, but they wont even talk about it. Just responding with bring more money. Drvar 16-08-2006, 01:12:PM maybe he got tired of the atmosphere in lyon, i dont know. maybe he wants a change, a new experience. so should he just keep his mouth shut, when he knows his club is setting a ridiculous price for him to keep him from going anywhere? Socrates 16-08-2006, 01:18:PM maybe he got tired of the atmosphere in lyon, i dont know. maybe he wants a change, a new experience. so should he just keep his mouth shut, when he knows his club is setting a ridiculous price for him to keep him from going anywhere? I was thinking maybe I should start a thread on this? But than I wont want people so say oh, thats Madrid realated crap, blah blah blah so here it goes well we are his favorite club, even when he joined them so its not a suprise. I mean if it was our club and someone wanted to leave bad, I would just say leave, no matter who they are. I would not want a player in our team who does now want to be hear. I mean, I cant blame Diarra, he dreams of a move here and wants to take on new challenges. I mean Lyon wont even sit down and talk about it, of course the player will get mad. Drvar 16-08-2006, 01:19:PM I was thinking maybe I should start a thread on this? But than I wont want people so say oh, thats Madrid realated crap, blah blah blah so here it goes well we are his favorite club, even when he joined them so its not a suprise. I mean if it was our club and someone wanted to leave bad, I would just say leave, no matter who they are. I would not want a player in our team who does now want to be hear. I mean, I cant blame Diarra, he dreams of a move here and wants to take on new challenges. I mean Lyon wont even sit down and talk about it, of course the player will get mad. nah, dont start a thread just yet. but if there will be too many lame posts about Diarra, then do it :). Jaouadinho 16-08-2006, 02:24:PM some more news on Andres Guardado, he says that he still wants to move to Real Madrid. http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=410189&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=10&title=Guardado+keen+on+Spain+switch WilliamFAlmeida 16-08-2006, 03:00:PM The Robinho case was different. He had a verbal agreement with the president of Santos that he would be sold to Madrid.....then he reniggs... so robinho was right... and honestly what does a club want from a player who wants to leave? How well can he really perform? justhammy 16-08-2006, 03:15:PM Robinho was a different case man! He isnt a douche. He cant blame himself for being wanted by the biggest club where his idol plays. A chance you get once in your life! JUST ONCE! Ronaldo isnt the youngest anymore and if Robinho wouldnt have come to Real last year, he might have never came! (maybe Arsenal would v taken him). He showed respect to his club but they didnt do the same! He wanted to leave also because of the situation with his mother. So dont say weird things 'Zka'. Jaouadinho 16-08-2006, 03:27:PM nicely done. :jambo: WilliamFAlmeida 16-08-2006, 03:34:PM speaking of Robinho...what are they feeding him in Madrid?! He looks SO MUCH bigger than last year!! Muscle wise that is...if you see Brazilian training pics, he looks ALOT stronger :rockman: Socrates 16-08-2006, 04:40:PM speaking of Robinho...what are they feeding him in Madrid?! He looks SO MUCH bigger than last year!! Muscle wise that is...if you see Brazilian training pics, he looks ALOT stronger :rockman: Damn stright he looks to have gained a good amount of muscle, the game vs RSL he was even pusing defenders off (H) (6) Cant wait for him this season. And yes while the situations are different between him and Diarra, niether are douches. faceNside 16-08-2006, 05:40:PM speaking of Robinho...what are they feeding him in Madrid?! Cocido madrileño :D The Diarra situation reminds me of Makelele's... but since he did it to us, I don't see why we couldn't get our sweet payback :p yoyo913 16-08-2006, 05:42:PM Pics? R.9 16-08-2006, 06:30:PM speaking of Robinho...what are they feeding him in Madrid?! He looks SO MUCH bigger than last year!! Muscle wise that is...if you see Brazilian training pics, he looks ALOT stronger :rockman: This season will be better for him because of that.He will get outmuscle least than last year.Robinho will rock this season. :rockman: Nuno 16-08-2006, 07:23:PM Marca is saying Lyon rejected our most recent bid for Diarra of 20 mil + some unnamed players. Discuss... dannyeli 16-08-2006, 07:27:PM bid 38 mil and is all yours.... Num Lock 16-08-2006, 08:14:PM Marca is saying Lyon rejected our most recent bid for Diarra of 20 mil + some unnamed players. Discuss... i've told you this before, Diarra is the equilibrium and the power of l'OL's midfield you want him its gonna cost, l'OL have had the pleasure of playing with 3 ofensive midfielders and 2 attackers cuz Diarra is right there in the engine room. he is as good as the money l'OL want for him, im pretty sure that if he ends up leaving the ligue 1 race will become closer. so pls pay what hes worth and let us have a chance at le championnat lol datboy 16-08-2006, 09:00:PM Pics? he definitely growed some muscles :) http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060815/i/r1956399756.jpg oh man, 20M euro + unnamed players. we probably offered Pavon and Pablo Garcia. :rolleyes: mega montana 16-08-2006, 09:56:PM Some players are just complete douches... makelele TheBlueBalla 16-08-2006, 10:01:PM Correction. Makelele made Perez look like a douche Anyone with the nerve to call someone who wants to leave Lyon a douche should look at the Essien transfer last summer. Jean Michel Aulas is one of the biggest snakes in professional football, right up there with Peter Kenyon, David Dein, Luciano Moggi, and Pini Zhavi. Scum sucking manipulative son of a bitch on the highest level Pizarro14 16-08-2006, 10:51:PM i've told you this before, Diarra is the equilibrium and the power of l'OL's midfield you want him its gonna cost, l'OL have had the pleasure of playing with 3 ofensive midfielders and 2 attackers cuz Diarra is right there in the engine room. he is as good as the money l'OL want for him, im pretty sure that if he ends up leaving the ligue 1 race will become closer. so pls pay what hes worth and let us have a chance at le championnat lol blah blah blah you know damn right that Jean-Michel Aulas is a greedy bastard. mega montana 17-08-2006, 01:23:AM lyon rejects a 20 million euro bid (http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Lyon/rechaza/oferta/Real/Madrid/Diarra/millones/euros/dasftb/20060816dasdasftb_22/Tes/) cap: i want a team of soldiers (http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Capello/Quiero/equipo/guerreros/dasftb/20060816dasdasftb_15/Tes/) :rockman: guti practices... (http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Guti/ejercita/normalidad/dasftb/20060816dasdasftb_25/Tes/) becks doesn't (http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Beckham/presenta/entrenamiento/perder/vuelo/dasftb/20060816dasdasftb_20/Tes/) gravesen is looking a at a deal to go to celtic (http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Gravesen/estudiar/fichar/Celtic/proxima/semana/dasftb/20060816dasdasftb_2/Tes/) http://www.as.com/composition/images/das/das/por/2006/08/1155756734.jpg ^we need this man! joaquin wants to leave betis, valencia put an offer in (http://marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/betis/es/desarrollo/680333.html) Socrates 17-08-2006, 02:54:AM There is an interview on AS with Calderon. He states that Diarra will be the one that has to come here, says that both Capello and Miajtvoic has told him to use the most money to get him this summer. So with that and Diarra going nuts if his move does not progess I think its pretty safe to say that he will join this summer. Baldini will be in Lyon on Wednesday. He also says that they will not up the offer of Reyes. He says that Arsenal has the final word and that he feels bad for Reyes because he knows how bad he wants to come here but he is not a priority like Diarra so its up to Arsenal. If they reject I think Reyes might try and follow down Diarra's path... About the CB, he says that Capello does infact want another CB but that first some players will have to be sold in order for that to happen. Says it might be difficult to sell some players because of the salaries of the contracts they have. Talks about Kaka :rolleyes: just says that one day he will play here and that Mijatovic and Capello make the sporting decisions. He also said that Capello told him both RVN and Ronaldo will play togeather...:O:S. Kind of a shock tbh. jani 17-08-2006, 03:04:AM these tactics are working on players like Reyes and Diarra. Thank god it didnt on Kaká. Nuno 17-08-2006, 05:15:AM There is an interview on AS with Calderon. He states that Diarra will be the one that has to come here, says that both Capello and Miajtvoic has told him to use the most money to get him this summer. So with that and Diarra going nuts if his move does not progess I think its pretty safe to say that he will join this summer. Baldini will be in Lyon on Wednesday. He also says that they will not up the offer of Reyes. He says that Arsenal has the final word and that he feels bad for Reyes because he knows how bad he wants to come here but he is not a priority like Diarra so its up to Arsenal. If they reject I think Reyes might try and follow down Diarra's path... About the CB, he says that Capello does infact want another CB but that first some players will have to be sold in order for that to happen. Says it might be difficult to sell some players because of the salaries of the contracts they have. Talks about Kaka :rolleyes: just says that one day he will play here and that Mijatovic and Capello make the sporting decisions. He also said that Capello told him both RVN and Ronaldo will play togeather...:O:S. Kind of a shock tbh. That interview made me like him even more. Everything he says is what I expect of him. I like that he regards the clubs priorities more than his own image(unlike or buddy Perez). I have a feeling he's going to be a great President, despite what some of you may think of him. faceNside 17-08-2006, 07:57:AM He also said that Capello told him both RVN and Ronaldo will play togeather...:O:S. Kind of a shock tbh.Man, the fact that Capello supossedly wants another CB (we're plenty of quality one atm!) and play RvN and Ronaldo together (sucks) is disturbing. Don't know if believe that though, cause both are AS suppositions that MARCA hasn't backed up yet. BenBeckham 17-08-2006, 10:11:AM Man, the fact that Capello supossedly wants another CB (we're plenty of quality one atm!) and play RvN and Ronaldo together (sucks) is disturbing. Don't know if believe that though, cause both are AS suppositions that MARCA hasn't backed up yet. He probably wants another CB because he's getting rid of Helguera and Salgado maybe (hoping that at least) - Therefore moving Ramos at Right Back and doesn't want to relly on Woody or Mejia with Cannavaro. Let's hope the later is not true, cuz Cassano has been in fine form and he should play. datboy 17-08-2006, 10:35:AM Real Madrid negotiates today with Lyon for Diarra (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/negociara/hoy/Lyon/Diarra/dasftb/20060817dasdaiftb_2/Tes/) Ronie will miss the start of La Liga (http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680436.html) SlowSilver 17-08-2006, 10:37:AM Ronaldo is so dman injury prone..:( mega montana 17-08-2006, 11:06:AM whats the hold up with the reyes deal? he clearly wants to come here datboy 17-08-2006, 11:09:AM whats the hold up with the reyes deal? he clearly wants to come here MADRID (AFP) - Real Madrid have said they are unwilling to up their transfer bid for Arsenal midfielder Jose Antonio Reyes and are keeping other options open. According to Spanish press reports Real, under new coach Fabio Capello, have offered 15-16 million euros for Reyes but that the London side were holding out for 20 million euros plus one or several players. Club chairman Ramon Calderon, however said that the Spanish giants would not pay anything extra for the player. "The ball is now in Arsenal's court," he added. Calderon also told As sports daily that the priority now was to sign Lyon's Mali international midfielder Mahamadou Diarra. "We will be putting our efforts, under Capello's orders, into signing Diarra," he said. As said that an opening offer of 20 million euros had been made for Diarra but that this had been rejected. A new offer would be put to the French champions on Thursday. that's the situation right now. faceNside 17-08-2006, 12:13:PM According to Capello Ronaldo will go nowhere... And Javi Garcia will stay in the first squad!! :rockman: The kid must have really impressed him :) http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680487.html Nuno 17-08-2006, 02:08:PM According to Capello Ronaldo will go nowhere... And Javi Garcia will stay in the first squad!! :rockman: The kid must have really impressed him :) http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680487.html That's great news. Javi looked solid against RSL. The kid has enormous potential. Socrates 17-08-2006, 02:09:PM ']these tactics are working on players like Reyes and Diarra. Thank god it didnt on Kaká. ...:| WTF are you talking about? Its no secret that Reyes's team that he has wanted to move to is us. He showed interest in us this summer, not the other way around. Diarra was kind of 50-50 but he also made it no secret that we were his favorite team, I really dont get what your posting. Infact its just better to post that sh!t in the Milan forums eh :chew: That interview made me like him even more. Everything he says is what I expect of him. I like that he regards the clubs priorities more than his own image(unlike or buddy Perez). I have a feeling he's going to be a great President, despite what some of you may think of him. Thats cool, although I am sure everyone knows my opinion on him by now:D He probably wants another CB because he's getting rid of Helguera and Salgado maybe (hoping that at least) - Therefore moving Ramos at Right Back and doesn't want to relly on Woody or Mejia with Cannavaro. Let's hope the later is not true, cuz Cassano has been in fine form and he should play. I would perfer Ramos at CB and I dont think we need another one. Mejia did fine last season and Woody is the other backup. Sure its a big chance that Woody will get injured but we should be alright. I dont get how he will fit everyone in. He says Raul is an important first team member, Cassano is like his son, he wants to play RVN with Ronaldo, and Emerson with Diarra ( if he comes ). Sounds a bit strange does it not? According to Capello Ronaldo will go nowhere... And Javi Garcia will stay in the first squad!! :rockman: The kid must have really impressed him :) http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680487.html (Y), he did look better than P. Garcia thats for sure. datboy 17-08-2006, 02:22:PM Great news about Javi!! :rockman: i think Juanfran has a good chance too! :) here's the full squad for the Trofeo Ramón y Carranza Cup Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego López and Adán Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Cannavaro, Mejía, Roberto Carlos, Míchel Salgado, Cicinho, Woodgate, Helguera and Raúl Bravo Midfielders: Beckham, Emerson, Javi García, Baptista and Juanfran Forwards: Raúl, Robinho, Cassano and Van Nistelrooy Injured: Guti and Ronaldo WilliamFAlmeida 17-08-2006, 05:07:PM when is this game? faceNside 17-08-2006, 05:22:PM Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego López and Adán Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Cannavaro, Mejía, Roberto Carlos, Míchel Salgado, Cicinho, Woodgate, Helguera and Raúl Bravo Midfielders: Beckham, Emerson, Javi García, Baptista and Juanfran Forwards: Raúl, Robinho, Cassano and Van Nistelrooy Injured: Guti and RonaldoRevealing list: no Pablo Garcia (Capello must be sure we're going to sign Diarra), Pavon (Mejia in) and De la Red (Javi Garcia has won this battle; after watching most Castilla matches last year I have to agree with that decision; De La Red's evolution was much slower than Javi's last season). Nuno 17-08-2006, 05:26:PM Hey face, I need to update my PES5 Javi Garcia. You've seen him play alot. What stats should I improve for him? faceNside 17-08-2006, 06:32:PM Hey face, I need to update my PES5 Javi Garcia. You've seen him play alot. What stats should I improve for him?Well as you may know he's very strong physically, so you could increase his stamina and balance. He has an average speed, but he's always well positioned. He rarely loses the ball cause he uses to make quick short passes, and uses well his body to cover the ball. With long passes he's nothing special. He also has a quick and powerful mid-range shot, and isn't a bad header. datboy 17-08-2006, 06:44:PM when is this game? it's tomorrow. 22:00 pm CET on Real Madrid TV RUSI 17-08-2006, 06:46:PM I havn't been around the past few days... I like the way things are going (Y) In the end I think we'll get Diarra for about 30 million and P. Garcia, and Reyes late for 18 million or so... I love seeing Javi Garcia in our squad. I've loved him since he played in La Copa a couple years back. I am just ready for the season to start. :chew: Nuno 17-08-2006, 07:03:PM Well as you may know he's very strong physically, so you could increase his stamina and balance. He has an average speed, but he's always well positioned. He rarely loses the ball cause he uses to make quick short passes, and uses well his body to cover the ball. With long passes he's nothing special. He also has a quick and powerful mid-range shot, and isn't a bad header. Thanks for the scouting report. What would you say about his defensive abilities and what positions does he play? Socrates 17-08-2006, 07:12:PM Thanks for the scouting report. What would you say about his defensive abilities and what positions does he play? He plays DM, this season he will be the backup to Emerson/Diarra which is a good thing. Nuno 17-08-2006, 07:12:PM I havn't been around the past few days... I like the way things are going (Y) In the end I think we'll get Diarra for about 30 million and P. Garcia, and Reyes late for 18 million or so... I love seeing Javi Garcia in our squad. I've loved him since he played in La Copa a couple years back. I am just ready for the season to start. :chew: A Lyon fan on the bigsoccer forum was saying that Diarra is closer to a Pirlo than to a Makelele. I know a few of you are opposed to the two DM formation, but I've believed that with the right two DMs, it'll work wonders. It definately wouldn't work with Gravesen or Pablo Garcia, but Emerson and Diarra are DMs of a different class. They go forward and attack. They can give that final pass. Oh yeah, and they defend pretty good too. The thought of it has me excited for the season to begin. Between GolTV and Worldsport HD, I should be able to see every one of our Liga games. Now c'mon Mijatovic/Baldini, go get Diarra! He plays DM, this season he will be the backup to Emerson/Diarra which is a good thing. I think it's awesome that he's getting promoted. It shows that they do care about the youth. Pablo + Tommy (N) (N) Javi + Diarra (Y) (Y) Socrates 17-08-2006, 07:14:PM A Lyon fan on the bigsoccer forum was saying that Diarra is closer to a Pirlo than to a Makelele. I know a few of you are opposed to the two DM formation, but I've believed that with the right two DMs, it'll work wonders. It definately wouldn't work with Gravesen or Pablo Garcia, but Emerson and Diarra are DMs of a different class. They go forward and attack. They can give that final pass. Oh yeah, and they defend pretty good too. The thought of it has me excited for the season to begin. Between GolTV and Worldsport HD, I should be able to see every one of our Liga games. Now c'mon Mijatovic/Baldini, go get Diarra! I think now, no matter what Diarra will come but the price will still be high. Calderon came out and said more or less we will go all out for him ( not the best thing to do with Lyon ) but I am pretty sure he will be a Madrid player pretty soon. Worldsport HD? How many games do they show and what service are they on? Nuno 17-08-2006, 07:19:PM I think now, no matter what Diarra will come but the price will still be high. Calderon came out and said more or less we will go all out for him ( not the best thing to do with Lyon ) but I am pretty sure he will be a Madrid player pretty soon. Worldsport HD? How many games do they show and what service are they on? They show one HD La Liga game per week(with everything slowly going to HD, it may be more eventually). Usually the game of the week. Fortunately we play a good number of big games so they may have Real Madrid on once or twice a month. It's available on Dish Network, channel 9477. Right now they're showing all the games they covered last season everyday(one per day). Yesterday was our 4-2 victory over Sevilla(Zizou's hattrick). WilliamFAlmeida 17-08-2006, 07:57:PM do you have to pay more for that channel? I have dish and havent seen that channel Nuno 17-08-2006, 08:14:PM do you have to pay more for that channel? I have dish and havent seen that channel It's part of their HD packages. I have Dish HD Gold. I get about 30 HD channels(the most out of any provider). HD is the future of television so I hope they start showing more games in HD. mega montana 17-08-2006, 09:35:PM great news about javi garcia (Y) dannyeli 17-08-2006, 09:41:PM They show one HD La Liga game per week(with everything slowly going to HD, it may be more eventually). Usually the game of the week. Fortunately we play a good number of big games so they may have Real Madrid on once or twice a month. It's available on Dish Network, channel 9477. Right now they're showing all the games they covered last season everyday(one per day). Yesterday was our 4-2 victory over Sevilla(Zizou's hattrick). that's nice. I have directv tv hd and its ok, not so many channels. About the HD the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) will eventually make all the channels HD here in the usa, in about 3 to 4 years. It should have been before but the market and the people wasn't ready. I know that because i'm studing broadcasting that they teach stuff like that here. When all the channels had HD signals you should either buy a new tv or a "box" that will convert the hd signal to your regular tv. the cost of the box same if not more that a new tv. HD tvs will be even higher because it will be the only way to watch tv, as old tv will become usless. RUSI 18-08-2006, 01:31:AM http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Arsenal/pidio/Madrid/fax/25/millones/Reyes/dasftb/20060818dasdaiftb_17/Tes/ Arsenal faxed that they want 25 million euros for Reyes. That is laughable. mega montana 18-08-2006, 01:40:AM riiiiiiiiiiiiight :| arsenal can go to hell jani 18-08-2006, 04:30:AM didnt they pay like £21m for him? whats asking for €25m? PaPaGeorGeo 18-08-2006, 06:35:AM the total transfer was €25m that included appearances and stuff. Why is €25m laughable, i know hes not an English player but he is young spanish and is a brilliant player. He is contracted to 2010 or 2011 i cant remember, the only reason we have to sell him is because he wants to leave, the club doesnt want him to go. How much did you guys pay for Robinho or Baptista? Nuno 18-08-2006, 07:08:AM the total transfer was €25m that included appearances and stuff. Why is €25m laughable, i know hes not an English player but he is young spanish and is a brilliant player. He is contracted to 2010 or 2011 i cant remember, the only reason we have to sell him is because he wants to leave, the club doesnt want him to go. How much did you guys pay for Robinho or Baptista? I don't know if you read Calderon's interview or not, but Reyes is not a priority for us. Matter of fact, he wouldn't even start. Arsenal can demand all they want, because we really don't need him. PaPaGeorGeo 18-08-2006, 07:17:AM I don't know if you read Calderon's interview or not, but Reyes is not a priority for us. Matter of fact, he wouldn't even start. Arsenal can demand all they want, because we really don't need him. I understand that, you dont need to him so your not prepared to pay the big bucks for him but I dont see why some people are critising us in all this. TheBlueBalla 18-08-2006, 09:01:AM because youre clearly overvaluing a player who has only mediocre in a vain attempt not to look like financial retards. And now youre going to screw yourselves because he is staying and obviously unsettled. He and Ashley should hang out more this year unless the cell phone thing was true datboy 18-08-2006, 09:40:AM Balboa loaned out to Racing http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/racing/es/desarrollo/680726.html good move imo. this kid got potential. but he needs more experience in Primera to be better. :) Arsene Wanker must be craaazy if he thinks he can get €25M for Reyes :gavin: Socrates 18-08-2006, 12:16:PM because youre clearly overvaluing a player who has only mediocre in a vain attempt not to look like financial retards. And now youre going to screw yourselves because he is staying and obviously unsettled. He and Ashley should hang out more this year unless the cell phone thing was true Excatly, sure he is a good player but its not he set the world on fire in England. I think the offer was good enough, especially for a want away player that has not been the best player so far. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=376185&cc=5901 - LMAO, Wenger can shut the **** up. Yes we are the only team that has been interested in players that are already under contract with another team, oh and Reyes has been screaming to everyone time and time again that he wants a move about how unsettled he has been. Yes I guess this was all us right? This is funny as hell. Oh man him and Aulas bitching sounds great(Y) WilliamFAlmeida 18-08-2006, 01:11:PM http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20060818dasdaiftb_14&type=Ies not too shabby...told you it was muscle (6) zlojack 18-08-2006, 01:21:PM Photoshopped (6) Damn, if he comes back with anything like motivation he will be a monster for you guys:( Socrates 18-08-2006, 03:53:PM Photoshopped (6) Damn, if he comes back with anything like motivation he will be a monster for you guys:( Well thats the hard part. Anyway seems like the Diarra deal is close to being done, 28M or 30M€. datboy 18-08-2006, 04:11:PM yeah, your right Soc. Mijatovic is in Lyon today. here's a french article on the latest bid from us. €28M http://www.football365.fr/depeches/filinfo_129424_99_Lyon-Offre-de-28-M%E2%82%AC-pour-M.Diarra-.shtml RUSI 18-08-2006, 04:27:PM Wenger is such a pussy. He complains the most __BY FAR__ out of any manager on the planet. Don't blame us for a player dreaming of a move here. --------------------------------------- Mourinho criticizing us for being a top seed - http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680751.html :fool: :fool: :fool: This quote is the real kicker :D "en el fútbol no hay dinero que compre el estatus" In football, there isn't money that buys your status. :| -------------------------------- Glad we loaned out Balboa (Y), He deserves to play in La Liga. Also, intrestin we offered 28 for Diarra, hopefully we can agree soon. :) Socrates 18-08-2006, 04:35:PM Wenger is such a pussy. He complains the most __BY FAR__ out of any manager on the planet. Don't blame us for a player dreaming of a move here. --------------------------------------- Mourinho criticizing us for being a top seed - http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/680751.html :fool: :fool: :fool: This quote is the real kicker :D In football, there isn't money that buys your status. :| -------------------------------- Glad we loaned out Balboa (Y), He deserves to play in La Liga. Also, intrestin we offered 28 for Diarra, hopefully we can agree soon. :) Got to agree, for his being as good a manager as he is, he complians quite a lot. Its funny because Reyes is throwing himself at us, not us dying to buy him. Wenger : I didnt see that :D Mourinho...:| faceNside 18-08-2006, 04:36:PM Mourinho: "In football, there isn't money that buys your status."Oh, the irony (H) Becks is God 18-08-2006, 04:40:PM lol, Cause Shev and Ballack would of wanted to sign for Chelsea 4 years ago wouldn't they. Err No.... zlojack 18-08-2006, 04:47:PM I think RUSI, you should translate it like this: "In football, money can't buy status" TheBlueBalla 18-08-2006, 05:59:PM I think some of you may be on the shortbus with that quote (H) It wouldnt make any sense for him to be implying that your money = your status. He's obviously saying, in tandem with the line about Chelsea, that money hasnt bought us anything, including status Drvar 18-08-2006, 06:20:PM nothing about the game guys? when is it on, etc. Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 06:39:PM nothing about the game guys? when is it on, etc. tonight at 10pm CET on real madrid tv. :) Any links to where i can watch it online? zlojack 18-08-2006, 08:39:PM I think some of you may be on the shortbus with that quote (H) It wouldnt make any sense for him to be implying that your money = your status. He's obviously saying, in tandem with the line about Chelsea, that money hasnt bought us anything, including status That's exactly how I interpret it..... Money can't buy you status in football. That's why RM get head of series in the CL etc. even though they didn't win anything last year, while Chelsea doesn't get any respect, because even though they have money, they don't have "status". djgperu1 18-08-2006, 09:29:PM Diarra ficha por el Real Madrid im so happy! i thought we werent going to sign him! Parker 18-08-2006, 09:36:PM Yep, it's on OL site.... :) Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 09:46:PM yup just read it on eurosport great news so happy yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey. :rockman: :rockman: :) whats the score so far vs real betis? my fuc*ng brother wont let me see the match, cun*t.:nape: pede54 18-08-2006, 09:48:PM That's exactly how I interpret it..... Money can't buy you status in football. That's why RM get head of series in the CL etc. even though they didn't win anything last year, while Chelsea doesn't get any respect, because even though they have money, they don't have "status". Oh we have status alright but we are not in G14. That is the only reason Madrid are seeded, because they, like you,(Barca) are in G14. The seedings have nothing to do with respect mate, its all about G14 looking after each other. Do you really think that Chelsea fans give a wank if we are respected or not? We do not care a bit. We never have and we never will care what you and your snobby clubs think of us. We dont respect any of your clubs either because no matter what you might win, there is always going to be an element of corruption in your achievements. Chelsea should be seeded and everyone knows it, and thats good enough for us. We will succeed without G14. You on the other hand could not. Socrates 18-08-2006, 09:52:PM Oh we have status alright but we are not in G14. That is the only reason Madrid are seeded, because they, like you,(Barca) are in G14. The seedings have nothing to do with respect mate, its all about G14 looking after each other. Do you really think that Chelsea fans give a wank if we are respected or not? We do not care a bit. We never have and we never will care what you and your snobby clubs think of us. We dont respect any of your clubs either because no matter what you might win, there is always going to be an element of corruption in your achievements. Chelsea should be seeded and everyone knows it, and thats good enough for us. We will succeed without G14. You on the other hand could not. Can you please not post your crazy G14 posts in here? Thanks. Diarra deal is done - 28 million euros http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/20060818_224259Dev.html dannyeli 18-08-2006, 09:52:PM Oh we have status alright but we are not in G14. That is the only reason Madrid are seeded, because they, like you,(Barca) are in G14. The seedings have nothing to do with respect mate, its all about G14 looking after each other. Do you really think that Chelsea fans give a wank if we are respected or not? We do not care a bit. We never have and we never will care what you and your snobby clubs think of us. We dont respect any of your clubs either because no matter what you might win, there is always going to be an element of corruption in your achievements. Chelsea should be seeded and everyone knows it, and thats good enough for us. We will succeed without G14. You on the other hand could not. tell us why not ? because as far as i know, it has been barcelona the team to knockout chelsea the last 2 years. And last year they were CL champions. So do you think that G14 is the reason why they are champions ? Or the fact that they have a well balanced team, including the best player in the world ? Or before that how many CL, Uefa cups and so on did barcelona had and chelsea had. Because i'm pretty sure its many against 1 or nothing for you guys. pede54 18-08-2006, 09:54:PM Exactly my point...thanks for understanding it...... :ewan: Socrates 18-08-2006, 09:54:PM yup just read it on eurosport great news so happy yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey. :rockman: :rockman: :) whats the score so far vs real betis? my fuc*ng brother wont let me see the match, cun*t.:nape: 2-1 for us so far. Dani for them ( heard it was Salgado's error and yet again the fullbacks are poor ) Ruud off a penalty for us and Raul with a nice goal. I hear Cassano is still looking amazing in the preseason, cant wait for him :lui: Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 09:58:PM cannavaro just scored 3-2 to madrid. djgperu1 18-08-2006, 10:04:PM omg... ***in helguera! he should have been sold !!! :nape: im listenin to the game, at marca.com ....and i just cant believe how capello is givin him a chance after all the stupid **** he did last year Nuno 18-08-2006, 10:08:PM Don't you just love Salgado and Helguera? :nape: Anyway, I think Capello will definately do something about it. Hopefully Salgado is sold. Socrates 18-08-2006, 10:09:PM Don't you just love Salgado and Heguera? :nape: Anyway, I think Capello will definately do something about it. Hopefully Salgado is sold. Add Helguera, Pavon, and RC to that list of defenders that should been gone by now. I dont know how Capello sees Salgado (well maybe not him) and RC are fit to be our fullbacks. Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 10:17:PM real madrid get knocked out on penalties after RC missed his penalty kick. djgperu1 18-08-2006, 10:17:PM well .. at least now we know who to get rid of..... 3-3 FT Betis wins by penalties 5-4 (r.carlos misses it :nape: ) zlojack 18-08-2006, 10:18:PM Oh we have status alright but we are not in G14. That is the only reason Madrid are seeded, because they, like you,(Barca) are in G14. The seedings have nothing to do with respect mate, its all about G14 looking after each other. Do you really think that Chelsea fans give a wank if we are respected or not? We do not care a bit. We never have and we never will care what you and your snobby clubs think of us. We dont respect any of your clubs either because no matter what you might win, there is always going to be an element of corruption in your achievements. Chelsea should be seeded and everyone knows it, and thats good enough for us. We will succeed without G14. You on the other hand could not. No worries dude...I was just talking about my translation of what Mourinho said from Spanish to English...you seem to be somewhat over-sensitive. I agree that based on their recent achievements, Chelsea deserve to be seeded. Don't shoot the messenger man! :ewan: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." (6) Nuno 18-08-2006, 10:18:PM Wow, thanks alot Helguera, Salgado, and RC. You guys are the best. :rolleyes: Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 10:22:PM nothing on diarra on the real madrid website yet. :rolleyes: Nuno 18-08-2006, 10:27:PM nothing on diarra on the real madrid website yet. :rolleyes: The Real Madrid website doesn't even know the match ended. Don't worry it's on Lyon's website and that's proof enough. Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 10:31:PM The Real Madrid website doesn't even know the match ended. Don't worry it's on Lyon's website and that's proof enough. yeh ur right thanx. :) MaestroZidane 18-08-2006, 10:44:PM lol.. i will wait for everyone else to report it before i believe it.. (H) mega montana 18-08-2006, 10:48:PM diarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrra! awesome ***king news!!!!!!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: TheBlueBalla 18-08-2006, 10:52:PM 28 million is a great deal for him, considering we had to dole out nearly 40 for a player who is his younger clone in Essien. Congratulations, because this kid is going to be a monster for you guys Socrates 18-08-2006, 10:55:PM Well imo I think we overpaied a bit for him but at least its not the 38 million euros that they had demanded. Jaouadinho 18-08-2006, 10:59:PM well done mijatovic great buy, 28 mill is the perfect price seeing how we sold makelele for around that same price. :lui: Moreira_Benfica 18-08-2006, 11:05:PM ***en awsome signing for you guys :rockman: dannyeli 18-08-2006, 11:47:PM No worries dude...I was just talking about my translation of what Mourinho said from Spanish to English...you seem to be somewhat over-sensitive. I agree that based on their recent achievements, Chelsea deserve to be seeded. Don't shoot the messenger man! :ewan: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." (6) they don't deserved to be seeded, but there were teams that also didn't deserved either. djgperu1 18-08-2006, 11:56:PM im watching some videos in youtube.com about real madrid coinsidently ... of all the 10 videos i just watched... helguera made one own goal, and ***ed up 2 other times... i just cant believe how we have kept him throughout this years... i remember the dumb mistakes from last yr as well Becks is God 19-08-2006, 12:05:AM lol, Helguera what a jackass, but fear not my fellow Madridista's iv'e heard we may be selling him to Valencia, he messes up all the time we should just release him. ****in' excellent news on Diarra :rockman: bout time we wrapped that deal up! now we can get Reyes' transfer wrapped up and maybe a new CB, Chivu? Mexes? Gutted we lost tonight but im really excited about this season, also we play Villarreal tomorrow night in the 3rd/4th place play off. Can't stop the rush... 19-08-2006, 12:40:AM lol.. i will wait for everyone else to report it before i believe it.. (H) http://www.eurosport.es/futbol/la-liga/2006-2007/sport_sto946788.shtml mega montana 19-08-2006, 12:54:AM damn our team is stacked now, diarra will be a beast for us! reyes would be welcome, but it isnt all too important we get him maybe another cb (or lb, wishfully thinking) and we'll be set get ready barca! (6) TheBlueBalla 19-08-2006, 01:37:AM Arsenal have completely botched the Ashley Cole situation. They had 16 million on the table, and didnt take it because they were mulling over 25, allegedly. Now, they have a player who they need to dump and everyone has moved on. I can see you guys lodging a last minute bid less than your original and signing him Socrates 19-08-2006, 01:48:AM Arsenal have completely botched the Ashley Cole situation. They had 16 million on the table, and didnt take it because they were mulling over 25, allegedly. Now, they have a player who they need to dump and everyone has moved on. I can see you guys lodging a last minute bid less than your original and signing him If only that would happen...:( Seriously our fullbacks thus far have been the weaked link on the team. Salgado looks worse than Carlos who looks like well crap really. I really dont know what he (Capello) sees in Carlos anymore to be telling him that he will be the LB for the season. RUSI 19-08-2006, 02:37:AM F*CK YEAH!!!!! God Damn, I F*cking love it. Mahamadou Diarra, el nuevo merengue. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: yt23w 19-08-2006, 02:39:AM YESSS!!! Diarra! Finally!! i thought we'd never! although i havent read it anywhere but here.... + apparantly Capello had one of his scouts looking at Gago and from what i hear Gago impressed!!! an offer could be tabled as soon as next week! Boca want 8mill(pounds) + what tournement are we playing in ( / just been knocked out of)?? --------------------------- EDIT: from http://www.theworldgame.com.au (Australian Site) (acutal source Reuters) Diarra headed to Real Olympique Lyon have agreed to let Mali midfielder Mahamadou Diarra join Real Madrid, the five-times French champions said on Friday. The clubs have agreed an undisclosed fee and Diarra will move providing he agrees personal terms, said a Lyon spokesman. Diarra is expected in Madrid at the weekend to sort out the final details. Real president Ramon Calderon confirmed to Spain's Radio Marca that his club had agreed to buy the 25-year-old. "It's true," he said. "We've been working on this deal for some time at the express request of our coach (Fabio Capello)." Capello added he was delighted with the signing. "He is a very strong player and was our number one priority," he told a news conference after his side's defeat against Real Betis in a pre-season tournament in Cadiz. Marca said Real would pay 26 million euros ($A43.92 million) for the holding midfielder, who joined Lyon in 2002 from Dutch side Vitesse Arnhem and won the last four Ligue 1 titles with the club. Diarra was quoted as saying in French sports daily L'Equipe on Wednesday that he wanted to join Real and was prepared to consider going on strike to force the deal through. "An offer from a club like Real Madrid happens once in your career," he said. If the deal goes through, Diarra will become the fourth player to join the club since Calderon was elected president last month. The nine-times European champions have also signed Italy's World Cup-winning captain Fabio Cannavaro and Brazil midfielder Emerson from Juventus and Dutch striker Ruud van Nistelrooy from Manchester United, spending a combined 35 million euros on the trio. Real, who have not won a major trophy since 2003, are also interested in Arsenal forward Jose Antonio Reyes although there now appears just a slim chance that deal will occur. "We can still sign more players and I think we will do so before the transfer deadline expires," Calderon said on Friday. RUSI 19-08-2006, 02:45:AM Diarra: "My dream to end up in Madrid is complete. Right now, I'm the happiest person in the world." It's on Lyon's site :D http://www.olweb.fr/index.php?lng=fr&a=26074&pid=101002 Moratti1 19-08-2006, 04:30:AM Nice... This summer you guys made some smart pickups instead of just the stars. Well done Madrid. ronnifan9 19-08-2006, 07:46:AM Yey!!! He looks like a beast in the midfield, and the signings so far are great. No space for Helguera/Gravesen. (6) Vedran-10 19-08-2006, 09:07:AM I'm surprised to see so much hatred towards Salgado, Helguera and RC. I think they have been good for Real Madrid overall. I would instead hate the Madrid management for not getting rid of them. sharkman 19-08-2006, 10:40:AM unlucky with penaltys...... 9 out of 10.... but i have a realy good feeling with that season... :rockman: datboy 19-08-2006, 10:45:AM F*CK YEAH!!!!! God Damn, I F*cking love it. Mahamadou Diarra, el nuevo merengue. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: exactly my reaction! DIIIAAAAAARRAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rockman: Jaouadinho 19-08-2006, 12:11:PM still nothing on diarra on real madrid tv and real madrid.com. :nape: normally its real who say they got a player before the selling club. SlowSilver 19-08-2006, 12:12:PM Well, the league is ours. (H) jani 19-08-2006, 12:38:PM best buy of the summer (Y) BenBeckham 19-08-2006, 02:17:PM now if RM could get a decent Right and Left Back that would make the incoming transfers even better than they are already and it has been IMO the best summer in years on that front. :rockman: Saw the goals and a 3min "highlight"- RM looked weak at the full back positions. Here are the goals just in case you haven't seen them. 1-0 by Danii http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_1-0_real.wmv 1-1 by Van Nistelrooy http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_1-1_real.wmv 1-2 by Raul http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_1-2_real.wmv 2-2 by Danii http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_2-2_real.wmv 2-3 by Cannavaro http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_2-3_real.wmv 3-3 by Edu http://friendlies.abu-jassim.com/bet_3-3_real.wmv *********************************************** On a sidenote - I'm not really a fan of Raul (well at least the one since about summer 2003) but from the few clips and things I've seen & read so far this summer - he looks improving & better. Cassano is simply in superb form atm - let's hope it stays that way. I't been a long time since I saw this "goal celebration" - hopefully many many more to come :) http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060818/capt.902a5a68b9114078ad36e4efe20022b7.spain__socce r_fs809.jpg mega montana 19-08-2006, 02:24:PM http://marca.com/primeras/06/08/g0819.jpg :rockman: justhammy 19-08-2006, 03:10:PM F*CKING F*CKING GREAT!!! F*************CK!!!! I cant believe this!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: DIARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! OMFG!!! This is gonna be a beast!!! Get ready Barca!! GET F*CKING READY!!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: OrgulloVikingo 19-08-2006, 03:15:PM Diarra! That's all I have to say! :jacko: Bringing in Reyes would be great. Can't hurt having a youngster like that...think of the depth too. I wish we would have gotten Ashley Cole though. OrgulloVikingo 19-08-2006, 03:17:PM Hey Realmadridforever! OrgulloVikingo = merengues (from soccernet message boards years back!) Remember Massa, Herrupert, Phovos, Argie P., etc? What's going on? Besides us havng a much improved squad... Jaouadinho 19-08-2006, 03:33:PM I read somewhere that cappelo said, with diarra in the team we are only going to lose 3 games in a season, f*cking great if that is true man. mega montana 19-08-2006, 04:47:PM http://tracker.denness.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=7e45191d1ae7b8d0dcd13b27dd3d2 d4083da7890 real betis/real madrid game spanish commentary :jap: OrgulloVikingo 19-08-2006, 05:04:PM Anyone know where i can stream Real madrid games online? There used to be a great site called soccerstreams.com yeara ago, but since then....I haven't found ****. And being that I have a mac, everything seems to run on windows. Everything for Windows sux.....crashes, bugs, etc. Mac, as close as you get to being bulletproof Dreath 19-08-2006, 05:21:PM Wenger said in a post match interview that the Reys deal was collapsed. Jaouadinho 19-08-2006, 05:24:PM why wasnt he in the squad then? mega montana 19-08-2006, 05:36:PM Wenger said in a post match interview that the Reys deal was collapsed. hmm interesting, but i'm sure we will attempt again sharkman 19-08-2006, 06:08:PM we don't need reyes... our team is perfect :lui: ----------------Ronaldo---------------(RVN) ---Robinho---------------Cassano-----(Raul, Baptista) ------------------------------Beckham(Juan Fran, Cicinho) -------------------Emerson-----------(Guti) -----------Diarra----------------------(P.Garcia) --Carlos----------------------Cicinho--(R.Bravo, Salgado, Ramos) -----------Ramos----Cannavaro-------(Helguera, Meija, Pavon, R. Bravo) ---------------Casillas----------------(Diego Lopez) ladylover 19-08-2006, 06:10:PM This is going to be a make or break season for you guys, all these new players, Diarra, Ruud, Cannavaro etc. If you still can't win anything then all that money spend was for nothing shokz 19-08-2006, 06:13:PM Anyone with a Sky Digital box (even with no subscribtion) can get Real Madrid TV, free to air. Works for me and I've been a Telewest customer (kept the Sky box for the extra free chans) for years. This is Sky testing the channel out before they officially put it in at the end of the month. Free to air. On Sky Free Real Madrid TV Services>System Setup>Add channels>Input frequency 11.681 27.5, 2/3, V Then go to find channels and store 51147. It should be in the other channels menu for good. WilliamFAlmeida 19-08-2006, 06:17:PM free to air? anyway Madrid lost 0-1 Riqulme with a free kick OrgulloVikingo 19-08-2006, 07:07:PM Thanx for the info. I need to get satellite...enough of this cable mierda. Is everyone happy with the squad? Am I being pesimistic or did we not focus on young players, as a whole? I think we'd be more complete if we would have gotten joaquin for the wing and sat beckham( since he's inept at running at people, dribbling, etc., and plus we don't have a great target man in the air such as a Klose or Morientes), and perhaps have Cannavaro & Woodgate (:/) in the middle and move Ramos back to his natural position. Thoughts? mega montana 19-08-2006, 07:31:PM This is going to be a make or break season for you guys, all these new players, Diarra, Ruud, Cannavaro etc. If you still can't win anything then all that money spend was for nothing blah, i guess even if we dont win anything, which i doubt, in all honesty, i just want some damn stability to this club. We've had a revolving door of presidents and trainers over the past 3 years, I want to see something consistent. Even if capello stays 'only 3 years', i think it'll be great for this club. Calderon has gotten some stick from fans for not getting kaka, cesc, etc. but I do like that he is buying players that the coach wants. Anyway, two years ago, we bought woodgate and samuel for over 20 million euros each, both had disasterous seasons. Last year we spent damn near 50 mill on baptista and robinho, all for no trophies Thanx for the info. I need to get satellite...enough of this cable mierda. Is everyone happy with the squad? Am I being pesimistic or did we not focus on young players, as a whole? I think we'd be more complete if we would have gotten joaquin for the wing and sat beckham( since he's inept at running at people, dribbling, etc., and plus we don't have a great target man in the air such as a Klose or Morientes), and perhaps have Cannavaro & Woodgate (:/) in the middle and move Ramos back to his natural position. Thoughts? I'm torn about beckham, personally, i would have sold him, but it seems capello likes what he can do, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt I'd love to get Joaquin, but it looks like Valencia has the upper hand RUSI 19-08-2006, 07:37:PM Thanx for the info. I need to get satellite...enough of this cable mierda. Is everyone happy with the squad? Am I being pesimistic or did we not focus on young players, as a whole? I think we'd be more complete if we would have gotten joaquin for the wing and sat beckham( since he's inept at running at people, dribbling, etc., and plus we don't have a great target man in the air such as a Klose or Morientes), and perhaps have Cannavaro & Woodgate (:/) in the middle and move Ramos back to his natural position. Thoughts? I am happy with our squad. It isn't closed yet, I expect atleast one more guy. I think you are being a tad pesimistic, we have a young core of players already plus Diarra, and we will probably get one more young star. Once Again, Beckham kills us. I wish we could have gotten Joaquin instead of Becks years ago but oh well. We have other players that we can play on the right. Joaquin isn't needed. Ruud van Nistelrooy is a target man, come on amigo I like our defense how it is at the moment. If we get another CB, we'd play Ramos on the right, but I think right now we are good. OrgulloVikingo 19-08-2006, 07:59:PM I meant a superb target man in the air. RVN is more of an opportunist poacher. And, I doubt Capello really likes Beckham. I think, like any other real madrid coach, he knows his boundaries. He has freedom but restricted in certain areas. He knows what beckham means in terms of bringing in money. Predident, board, and all business people involved are the ones that call the shots when it comes to Beckham. Imagine if we replaced him with a dedly attacking winger who's more skillful. Joaquin would have been perfect. Jaouadinho 19-08-2006, 08:11:PM i agree i watched the match all he does is get the ball passes it to Cicihno or trys the long ball thing (which slows our game down). I didnt like hes atitude today he looked slow and he did minimul work for the team. I think hes trying to tell capp to let him leave for the preimiership so he could get his england carrer back on track, thats all he cares about really. well thats my opinion u guys might have a diffrent opinion. oh maaaaan do i hate helguera or what first he gives away a penalty then he f*ucking diflects the freekick and they score (iknow it was bad luck but still). I still dont know why he is still here can someone tll him to f*uck off PLZ. :nape: datboy 19-08-2006, 09:00:PM just some thoughts about our team. Salgado has to be a sub. he's slow, fumbles alot and his marking is really bad. he's nothing like what he used to be. we gotta have someone else as RB. i hope Capello see's this. RC is fine at LB. he shows new motivation and rarely made any mistakes in these 2 matches. Becks to the bench. man, he is useless. his pin-point crosses are gone and hes all over the field, like he doesnt know where to play. i would love to see Juanfran in his position. or Robinho. Javi Garcia is the one who impressed me alot. better then De La Red. so Capello made the right choice there. you can tell that we lack creativity in midfield now that Zizou is gone. my final team would be ::::::::::::::::::Casillas::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::Cicinho:::Ramos::Cannavaro:::Carlos::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: Diarra:::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Guti:::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::Robinho::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::Raúl:::::::::::::::Cassano::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::Van Nistelrooy:::::::::::::::: BENCH CRAPHAM!!!!!!!!!! Becks is God 19-08-2006, 09:06:PM Beckham always tries his best for the team and is still the best passer of a ball in world football, however he's lost what bit of pace he had and doesn't fit into our new 4-2-3-1 formation, i do have a fealing this could be his last year with us. BenBeckham 19-08-2006, 09:22:PM Either Becks passes to Cicinho who's overlapping (someone obviously has to stay back and plug the hole) or crossing in from way out (what actually is quicker and more direct than running down the wing - since the ball is faster...so it's actually a wrong thesis - slowing the game down, actually he makes it more direct and quicker) if it's a good thing and effective, that's another matter. IMO If you leave him little space or/and you have forwards who are not good in the air - it all turns sour. But since there is Ruud who's excellent in the air it should improve too last season. Anyway no need to be unhappy - he won't play every game and he won't always play 90 minutes when he plays that's as guaranteed as that he will stay at Madrid at least this Season, still hit some assists and some goals if you like it or not. EDIT Becks is God has summed it up nicely otherwise ******* I think RM are going to get AshCole - they are just waiting till the end of the transfer deadline looming - then offering a "lower" fee and the unsettled Cole will want to move, arseneal pondering AshCole vs succsessful back ups/transferfee and the whole AshCole-Fans relationship... well unless Chelsea snap him up eralier of corse... ******** every time I look at the current squad and have to pinch myself - top quality player signed, even if the're a bit old, but all expirienced and proven. a great defender 2 good midfielders - in D/CM where we lacked them since Makelele 1 great striker EDIT The XI doesn't pick itself - there's choice almost everywhere :rockman: sharkman 19-08-2006, 09:50:PM **** A. Cole.... Carlos has played fine in the last games..... not lucky with the penalty :nape: .. but it happens.. we should get maybe next year a new LB... Boka or Abidal.. We don't need @ the moment a new LB.. Salgado is a great player 2 have in bench! Beckham stays in the first eleven... RVN should be in the bench... 2006/2007 it's gonna be our year :rockman: Becks is God 19-08-2006, 10:06:PM Diarra deal confirmed on RealMadrid.com (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/comunicado_oficial_33064.htm) Dreath 19-08-2006, 10:26:PM **** A. Cole.... Carlos has played fine in the last games..... not lucky with the penalty :nape: .. but it happens.. we should get maybe next year a new LB... Boka or Abidal.. We don't need @ the moment a new LB.. Salgado is a great player 2 have in bench! Beckham stays in the first eleven... RVN should be in the bench... 2006/2007 it's gonna be our year :rockman: It's not if you play Carlos and Beckham and drop RvN. randy23 19-08-2006, 11:50:PM Does anybody know what happened with the Reyes and Guardado deal are they comming to madrid or what? :ewan: mega montana 19-08-2006, 11:53:PM Diarra deal confirmed on RealMadrid.com (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/comunicado_oficial_33064.htm) i was actually kinda worried that it took so long to be put up on the real madrid page it's a dream come true for this team :lui: Dreath 20-08-2006, 12:36:AM Does anybody know what happened with the Reyes and Guardado deal are they comming to madrid or what? :ewan: According to Wenger the deal has fallen through. Madrid are being too tight. Reyes missed todays match through injury though. djgperu 20-08-2006, 12:47:AM omg... helguera headed Riquelme's Fk into the goal :nape: although he touched it, it was going to be a goal anyways hez just bad luck (6) ... if hez played in la liga, hes gonna cost us some goals...and we know how capello plays.. (1-0 results) OrgulloVikingo 20-08-2006, 01:10:AM Beckham to the bench, salgado as well. RC could still cause lots of trouble for opposition + I think he even thinks he has alot to prove after all the critisizm and Capello's faith in him. Diarra is a huge, huge , huge, huge, huge man in the midfield. He fills a gap we haven't had in a while. I would put Cannavaro & woody (is he reallly fit? Did hell freeze over?) in the middle and put Ramos at RB, which is his natural position. Again, not to sound like a broken record but having Beckham out there is like cutting one arm from an octopus. I think, without a doubt, Robinho should start, he will have a great season, watch. All in all, we have a solid squad. And I hope Raul becomes the player he used to be. We believe in him and he shall resuresct. Hala Madrid! Socrates 20-08-2006, 01:19:AM Beckham to the bench, salgado as well. RC could still cause lots of trouble for opposition + I think he even thinks he has alot to prove after all the critisizm and Capello's faith in him. Diarra is a huge, huge , huge, huge, huge man in the midfield. He fills a gap we haven't had in a while. I would put Cannavaro & woody (is he reallly fit? Did hell freeze over?) in the middle and put Ramos at RB, which is his natural position. Again, not to sound like a broken record but having Beckham out there is like cutting one arm from an octopus. I think, without a doubt, Robinho should start, he will have a great season, watch. All in all, we have a solid squad. And I hope Raul becomes the player he used to be. We believe in him and he shall resuresct. Hala Madrid! Yes Beckham should go to the bench ( or sold ). Sell Salgado, RC, Helguera, Pavon, and others. Thats what we should have done but we have not and maybe wont either. Ramos at RB, I dont know. I think we should stop moving him and let him partner Cannavaro in the middle of the defence. The kid has a great future and was imo top 5 CB's in la liga last season, and when you consider the situation he was in here that is very good. Yes he is fit for now but noone knows how long that will last. Robinho should start with Cassano on the wings as I have stated long ago, Cassano looks to be the best player this preseason. Raul also looks to be getting back in form which is great (Y). But, I will wait until the first couple of games before I make any judgements on the team. mega montana 20-08-2006, 02:15:AM i think we'll have a squad rotation this year, we have a lot of depth, so a lot of guys should receive a lot of playing time RUSI 20-08-2006, 03:21:AM Ramos should stay in the middle and Cicinho at RB. Last year, Cicinho looked a bit out of place defensively because we didn't have proper coverage from the midfield without a DM. Now we have two. Our D will be solid. My biggest worry is Beckham. I'd say everyone on these forums knows my opinion on Beckham, so no need to go any further. RUSI 20-08-2006, 06:54:AM http://www.marca.com/primeras/06/08/g0820.jpg :D Seggie8 20-08-2006, 09:36:AM i think we'll have a squad rotation this year, we have a lot of depth, so a lot of guys should receive a lot of playing time I agree, in the squad this year you can actually see a team shaping up that can play well together. I'm especially happy about the signing of Diarra as well. Everything is turned out to be good so far for Madrid. :rockman: Drvar 20-08-2006, 09:36:AM the way i see it, with such a strong midfield, Cicinho and R. Carlos will have much more freedom to attack at will. and we won't miss their defense so much. about Beckham, i think the bench wont hurt him, maybe not all the time, but a big portion of the games. then Cassano, Robinho, Raul in the attacking midfield. Depending on form ofcourse, Baptista would fit in there too, instead of Raul. Both are playing very well to my eyes in the preseason, especially Raul. We just need Ronaldo in form, just like the way he started last year. justhammy 20-08-2006, 10:44:AM Helguera should F*CK OFF! He isnt any good anymore. Robinho should start with Cassano. They are both class and have immense talent!! Becks should go to bench! Thats what he deserves because others play better then him. Jaouadinho 20-08-2006, 11:34:AM now we got diarra this what the team formation will be next season. .................................casillas......... .................... Cicinho.............Canna............Ramos........ ....Carlos ......................Diarra.............Emerson.. ............... Cassano.....................Robinho............... .....Reyes ..............................Ronnie/van.......................... there will be a lot of rotation with the front four but the rest will always be the same unless there are injuries or suspensions. robinho, reyes and cassano will always interchange through out the game, so this season is looking good. :rockman: i think we will defenetly get reyes now that we have got diarra, but if we dont get him i think we will see robinho or juanfran down the left side or even raul. mega montana 20-08-2006, 01:14:PM a couple of interesting tidbits today: diarra will debut wednesday (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Diarra/debuta/Trofeo/Bernabeu/miercoles/dasftb/20060820dasdaiftb_3/Tes/) :rockman: I cant wait to see him play with us! both milan clubs are still after ronaldo9 (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Milan/Inter/pelean/Ronaldo/dasftb/20060820dasdaiftb_1/Tes/) kaka :| or adriano could be sent back to us. According to AS, we'd get 15 million euros plus adriano from inter the only way milan will get ronaldo is if they send us kaka, according to calderon (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Calderon/plantea/canjearlo/Kaka/dasftb/20060820dasdaiftb_2/Tes/) article also says that roman abramovich blocked a deal for gallas at the last minute, we had a deal, but he blocked it rijkaard : diarra is a splendid player (http://marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/681047.html) he's known diarra since he played for vitesse in the netherlands SlowSilver 20-08-2006, 02:46:PM Gallas :( Just imagine Gallas and Cannavaro in the backline. Best central pairing in the world... DAMN YOU ROMAN! :kader: ah bullet 20-08-2006, 02:47:PM I have to say I'm very, very surprised to see all of this hatred towards Beckham. I mean, do you lot realize that last season he was one of the (if not the) best players for your side last season? SlowSilver 20-08-2006, 02:55:PM I realise it, I've said it but the others have their minds made up. I love Beckham, but he doesn't suit the way we play. Sometimes he slows us down, he can't take on players, he has no pace. ah bullet 20-08-2006, 02:57:PM If I remember correctly last season his crosses were responsible for a large amount of your goals last season, as well. mega montana 20-08-2006, 03:14:PM becks isnt a bad player, but he's not very creative and tends to run around like a chicken with his head cut off a lot of the time we need someone that will run at players, which is why many fans wanted c. ronaldo so bad randy23 20-08-2006, 03:48:PM now we got diarra this what the team formation will be next season. .................................casillas......... .................... Cicinho.............Canna............Ramos........ ....Carlos ......................Diarra.............Emerson.. ............... Cassano.....................Robinho............... .....Reyes ..............................Ronnie/van.......................... there will be a lot of rotation with the front four but the rest will always be the same unless there are injuries or suspensions. robinho, reyes and cassano will always interchange through out the game, so this season is looking good. :rockman: i think we will defenetly get reyes now that we have got diarra, but if we dont get him i think we will see robinho or juanfran down the left side or even raul. I read that capp wants to play Ronnie and Van at the same time so i dont think that there is going to be a CF like Robinho on ur squad probably he is going to play in the rigth and some time later Becks is gona come in for him and Cassano would probably be a sub for Reyes if we get him if no he will be the starter LW :ewan: RUSI 20-08-2006, 03:58:PM I have to say I'm very, very surprised to see all of this hatred towards Beckham. I mean, do you lot realize that last season he was one of the (if not the) best players for your side last season? First of all, I don't hate Beckham. I like his work-rate and his passion. Second of all, He was nowhere close to being "one of the (if not the) best player" for us last season. That was just the media(mainly British). I don't see how one can even say that. He is a good free-kick taker although, to me, he is less accurate than before. He is a great crosser of the ball, apart from that he is very average. I laugh everytime I hear people say that. He has no skill on the ball aswell as no pace for one and can't play short balls or keep good flow of the ball going. He just doesn't fit with us. It's like fitting a square peg into a round hole. To plaay him as a winger in La Liga is an insult. To be a winger in this league __you must have pace__ Lastly, I saw what Becks is God posted earlier about him being the best passer in the world. That is a joke, he is the best crosser; yes. But he can't distribute like we need in our midfield and can't make short one-touch passes to open up a defense. PS, BenBeckham, to say that getting RVN will make a big difference is a joke. It won't matter with our system. He(Beckham) is a 4-4-2 right-mid. He can't play in any other position in any other system. mega montana 20-08-2006, 04:48:PM honestly, i think guti is the best passer on the team, he's got great vision and touch he played some great through balls last season WilliamFAlmeida 20-08-2006, 04:49:PM yea Beckham on the bench...it's unanimous I think. The game would go 19 kilometers faster if Beckham was on the bench. Diarra will GREATLY help the midfield speed that was lacking last year due to Zidane and Beckham slowing the game down. Becks is a great guy an all, but he should play somewhere where his style would work. In Madrid he has lots of passion and a great work rate...but like in the case of Raul...thats just not enough. Although in the preseaon Raul is playing like he did in the start of the last season. All that is truly left is for Ronaldo to be on form....everything seems to shapping up for an exciting season for Madrid. faceNside 20-08-2006, 05:34:PM First of all, I don't give a **** about winning friendly matches, these are only matches to test different systems and get the players in physical shape. My conclusions of Carranza: (Y) Robinho, very accurate in his dribblings, and quick as hell. (Y) Javi Garcia, he will be a good backup for Mahamadou. (Y) Team pressure, from the opponent fieldside. (N) Too many long balls over the forwards, no play build-up (N) Salgado, is slow as hell (N) Some defensive mistakes, due to lack of concentration, that I think will be solved soon for official matches I'm also so glad we signed Diarra for such a reasonable price :) mega montana 20-08-2006, 06:03:PM i agree with face, the results from these friendly games are meaningless i just wanted to post that the mexican kid guardado scored two golazos last night :rockman: BenBeckham 20-08-2006, 06:39:PM EDIT Any News on that Argentinian/Mexican Full Back ? a couple of interesting tidbits today: both milan clubs are still after ronaldo9 (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Milan/Inter/pelean/Ronaldo/dasftb/20060820dasdaiftb_1/Tes/) [/URL] I honestly think RM wouldn't miss him at all with the other forwards in the team. Cassano is in superb form, Raul is looking better than he did for 3 years, Nistelrooy doesn't need a further introduction, then there is the excellent Baptista and if you want even Robinho who could play upfront. PS, BenBeckham, to say that getting RVN will make a big difference is a joke. It won't matter with our system. He(Beckham) is a 4-4-2 right-mid. He can't play in any other position in any other system. The reason I wrote that is - I think Ruud is better converting the balls Becks sends in than Ronaldo or Raul for example. Not that the others are bad strikers but Becks mostly sends them in high, so you need to be good in the air, at heading, chesting, shielding and turning for a quick tap in or shot, not necessarily be a skillmaster on the ground and with speed or dribbles. Don't disagree with the other part - I just add - he played more advanced than he has/had to play for Madrid and England recently, about 10/15 meters further up. Nowdays he's often quite deep in the own half, which I think takes away a lot from his efficency (sp?) I assume Cap prefered Tactics is to play 2 DMs/or at least a "stuffed" Central midfield with Diarra, Emerson - maybe Guti, Baptista for a bit more attacking aproach. Generally that stuffs the midfield and gives the fullbacks and wingers more freedom to play further up - which I think Cap wants. Then there will be 2 strikers, with one maybe a bit behind the other. the "defensive" outlay --------DM---DM-------- RM-------AM/SS------LM -----------ST----------- the more attackin one - Think we will see that one a lot ---------DM------------- RM-----------CM------LM ----------SS------------- -------------ST---------- the ultra attackin one RWB-------DM-------LWB RM-----CM/AM/SS-----LM --------ST----ST-------- Btw, as a Rookie Becks played plenty of games in Central/Attacking Midfield and did well, of corse with "a Keane" behind him... it wasn't so difficult because he din't need to worry for the defence that much datboy 20-08-2006, 06:56:PM Diarra will undergo the medical tomorrow and then get presented at 19:00 CET! :) http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Diarra/pasara/manana/reconocimiento/medico/sera/presentado/dasftb/20060820dasdasftb_2/Tes/ Socrates 20-08-2006, 08:40:PM First of all, I don't hate Beckham. I like his work-rate and his passion. Second of all, He was nowhere close to being "one of the (if not the) best player" for us last season. That was just the media(mainly British). I don't see how one can even say that. He is a good free-kick taker although, to me, he is less accurate than before. He is a great crosser of the ball, apart from that he is very average. I laugh everytime I hear people say that. He has no skill on the ball aswell as no pace for one and can't play short balls or keep good flow of the ball going. He just doesn't fit with us. It's like fitting a square peg into a round hole. To plaay him as a winger in La Liga is an insult. To be a winger in this league __you must have pace__ Lastly, I saw what Becks is God posted earlier about him being the best passer in the world. That is a joke, he is the best crosser; yes. But he can't distribute like we need in our midfield and can't make short one-touch passes to open up a defense. PS, BenBeckham, to say that getting RVN will make a big difference is a joke. It won't matter with our system. He(Beckham) is a 4-4-2 right-mid. He can't play in any other position in any other system. Agree with your post. Oh and yep, Iker Casillas has been the best player for us for quite some time now... :chew: i agree with face, the results from these friendly games are meaningless i just wanted to post that the mexican kid guardado scored two golazos last night :rockman: Well we already have 3 non-eu playes with Diarra. And even so he would go to Castilla. BTW, Benbeckham, I dont think Capello knows what ultra attacking is :p BenBeckham 20-08-2006, 09:01:PM lol I knew the "ultra attacking" would come back to haunt me :$ in connection with Cap. BTW according to www.lpf.es Madrid has currently 4 non europeans in the squad (click on RM, then the player) Emerson (Bra) Baptista (Bra) Robinho (Bra) Ronaldo (Bra) and now Diarra (Mali) ? How many can RM have, how many can play at the same time ? Socrates 20-08-2006, 09:12:PM lol I knew the "ultra attacking" would come back to haunt me :$ in connection with Cap. BTW according to www.lpf.es Madrid has currently 4 non europeans in the squad (click on RM, then the player) Emerson (Bra) Baptista (Bra) Robinho (Bra) Ronaldo (Bra) and now Diarra (Mali) ? How many can RM have, how many can play at the same time ? 3 non-eu is the limit but Ronaldo and Emerson should not be there. The 3 non-eu players will be Robinho, Baptista ( who should get his citizenship pretty soon here ), and Diarra. theo 20-08-2006, 09:43:PM the "defensive" outlay --------DM---DM-------- RM-------AM/SS------LM -----------ST----------- the more attackin one - Think we will see that one a lot ---------DM------------- RM-----------CM------LM ----------SS------------- -------------ST---------- the ultra attackin one RWB-------DM-------LWB RM-----CM/AM/SS-----LM --------ST----ST-------- Haha, you won't see anything different than the classic 4-4-2 until Capello's contract runs out :ewan: Socrates 20-08-2006, 10:09:PM Haha, you won't see anything different than the classic 4-4-2 until Capello's contract runs out :ewan: ...:(, as I said before about him. Rarely will he change his tactic. The more I see that he actually might go with his old formation with us...4 defenders, 2 DMs, RW-LW, and two up front. mega montana 20-08-2006, 10:33:PM socrates, my understanding is that guardado would go to castilla, at least from what i have read i think he would only have to stay there until baptista gets his citizenship, which should be really soon i've been searching like crazy for any new news about a possible new bid, but havent found anything also, anyone else notice we have 6 brazilians? And to think we were called 'real brazil' with luxe last year! R.9 20-08-2006, 10:36:PM Well i am back from a short vacacion.Great to heard that they got Diarra at last he will be great plus in the team. :rockman: yt23w 21-08-2006, 02:03:AM when will be the 1st time that we field all of our new signings together (once Diarra is presented and settled ect..) will it be in another friendly or at the start of the season? P.S. Capello wants more signings before the end of transfer window. Hopefully it will be Gago and/or Guardado. + All players being sold will have to be fast tracked, so maybe the exodus will begin soon. jani 21-08-2006, 02:20:AM I think Diogo is heading to Lazio to replace Oddo. Moratti1 21-08-2006, 03:45:AM ']I think Diogo is heading to Lazio to replace Oddo. where did Oddo go? jani 21-08-2006, 04:23:AM supposedly to Milan. Diogo is lined up as his replacement. justhammy 21-08-2006, 09:44:AM Capello might name Diego Lopez his first goalie. He isnt very happy about Iker. Capello is making some f*ckin weird decisions here. Ok its not sure that Diego will get it, but I still think Iker is the best one and Diego is a great 2nd goalie. O well, we'll see what this blind Italian has to say about the goalies. He proved that his eyes are aging when he said that Robinho wasnt convincing and now Iker will have to believe it. http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Capello/plantea/dar/titularidad/Diego/Lopez/dasftb/20060821dasdaiftb_1/Tes/ Juventino 21-08-2006, 10:10:AM Capello also wasnt satisfied with Buffon... :rolleyes: If Capello would've stayed at Juve, it's almost sure Buffon would've gone to Milan in exchange for Abbiati mega montana 21-08-2006, 10:27:AM Capello might name Diego Lopez his first goalie. He isnt very happy about Iker. Capello is making some f*ckin weird decisions here. Ok its not sure that Diego will get it, but I still think Iker is the best one and Diego is a great 2nd goalie. O well, we'll see what this blind Italian has to say about the goalies. He proved that his eyes are aging when he said that Robinho wasnt convincing and now Iker will have to believe it. http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Capello/plantea/dar/titularidad/Diego/Lopez/dasftb/20060821dasdaiftb_1/Tes/ :| are you kidding me? whats next, sergio ramos to come off the bench? PaPaGeorGeo 21-08-2006, 12:22:PM how much are you guys getting diarra for? Socrates 21-08-2006, 12:27:PM how much are you guys getting diarra for? Somewhere around 26 million euros...( better than there asking price at first but I think still a bit high ). Capellos comment about Casillas....:|:|:|Our best player for a while now and he comes out with that... Vedran-10 21-08-2006, 12:53:PM Capello can't be serious about that. He's your MVP. Lean 21-08-2006, 12:58:PM That's laughable. Iker usually manages 3-4 great saves per game. Dream Team 21-08-2006, 01:13:PM Hahahaha, AS. Poor Diego López. He might play a friendly, so? What's the big deal? it's pre-season, he has to play too. Poor guy, they criticize the coach just because Diego is playing a friendly. Jorquera played yesterday with Barça, so? that means he's the first choice for Rijkaard? or maybe he's just rotating so he'll be ready for the new season too. AS is anti-Capello all of a sudden. It seems they didn't like at all how the team played at the Carranza trophy. Drvar 21-08-2006, 01:14:PM Maybe Capello would like Yao Ming in goal. I mean, he's so tall, he'll surely be great. Hahahaha, AS. AS is anti-Capello all of a sudden. It seems they didn't like at all how the team played at the Carranza trophy. i think alot of RM fans will be anti-Capello once they see the style of play in the league. i'm giving the guy a chance, but i've never been entertained by his teams... Hendrik 21-08-2006, 01:55:PM His favorite RB is still at Juve, I wonder why he didn't bring him to Madrid. :p Seriously, he has the squad to play the same boring ass Juve tactics. jani 21-08-2006, 02:01:PM I think AS dont like the two destroyer system. WilliamFAlmeida 21-08-2006, 02:14:PM yea, so they are going after what's sacred: Casillas. I mean not even Raul is sacred anymore....Capello cannot be saying those things about Iker. Any 3 year old can tell that Iker is better. But one thing stands out: Capello does not like superstars....maybe thats why he benched beckahm a few times? Nuno 21-08-2006, 02:16:PM I think people make a big deal out of nothing. AS really needs to stop it with their BS. It seems a few people here believe everything they write and get their panties in a twist. We finally have a balanced team again. That's all that really matters. R.9 21-08-2006, 02:18:PM Those comment of Capello of Casillas can not be true.Casillas is a class GK and one of Real Madrid best player in the last seasons. WilliamFAlmeida 21-08-2006, 02:22:PM you mean "cannot"? Anyone see Figo calling Perez a "galactico"? (H) Socrates 21-08-2006, 02:35:PM AS is anti-Capello all of a sudden. It seems they didn't like at all how the team played at the Carranza trophy. I dont like Capello either so meh, its going to be a long season. Seriously, he has the squad to play the same boring ass Juve tactics. I knew that ever snice he took over, its going to be a boring defensive Madrid...but again thats nothing new with Capello. We finally have a balanced team again. That's all that really matters. You really think so, Carlos at LB and I am not sure who will the RB will be yet. If we get another CB than Ramos will go to the right I think but so far Cicinho looks out of favor and Salgado....makes me want to cry. Nuno 21-08-2006, 02:59:PM I dont like Capello either so meh, its going to be a long season. I knew that ever snice he took over, its going to be a boring defensive Madrid...but again thats nothing new with Capello. You really think so, Carlos at LB and I am not sure who will the RB will be yet. If we get another CB than Ramos will go to the right I think but so far Cicinho looks out of favor and Salgado....makes me want to cry. Everything you've seen up to now has been preseason training(even the games). Nothing is finalized yet. Wait until after we've played a few league games, then we'll have a better understanding of our team. I hate how everyone is criticizing Capello when he hasn't even shown us his cards yet. Socrates 21-08-2006, 03:05:PM Everything you've seen up to now has been preseason training(even the games). Nothing is finalized yet. Wait until after we've played a few league games, then we'll have a better understanding of our team. I hate how everyone is criticizing Capello when he hasn't even shown us his cards yet. He has said that he wants Carlos as the LB for this season ( otherwise he would be gone and we could have a better LB with us right now ). It seems like he wants Cicinho to be a RW instead of RB, and he has said that he wants Ramos at RB . Well tbh I dont find him to be that great of a coach, he is good at defence and organzation in his teams. vitu 21-08-2006, 03:07:PM He has said that he wants Carlos as the LB for this season ( otherwise he would be gone and we could have a better LB with us right now ). It seems like he wants Cicinho to be a RW instead of RB, and he has said that he wants Ramos at RB . Well tbh I dont find him to be that great of a coach, he is good at defence and organzation in his teams. Capello is one of the best coaches out there. What are you smoking? SlowSilver 21-08-2006, 03:21:PM I wouldn't want Cicinho anywhere near RB. Do you know how many goals he'd cost us? Socrates 21-08-2006, 03:31:PM Capello is one of the best coaches out there. What are you smoking? Thats your opinion but I disagree. I dont rate him that highly, look at the teams he has managed...they were for the most part very good. At Roma he won only 1 league title right? The ones with Juve were taken away right? His first Milan team was great and he did well with them, his second try was... :rolleyes: . You see where I am going? His tactic is plain as bricks and rarely does he change it to suit his next game. SlowSilver - Salgado will cost just as much if not more than Cicinho...yes he lacks defense but with his physical ability, he could learn it. He is bad at RW so if we dont use him at RB he becomes quite...useless. Also another point with Diarra and Emerson here it should allow him to play the way he wants, or at least thats what I would think. davidcfs 21-08-2006, 03:53:PM Thats your opinion but I disagree. I dont rate him that highly, look at the teams he has managed...they were for the most part very good. At Roma he won only 1 league title right? The ones with Juve were taken away right? His first Milan team was great and he did well with them, his second try was... :rolleyes: . You see where I am going? His tactic is plain as bricks and rarely does he change it to suit his next game. SlowSilver - Salgado will cost just as much if not more than Cicinho...yes he lacks defense but with his physical ability, he could learn it. He is bad at RW so if we dont use him at RB he becomes quite...useless. Also another point with Diarra and Emerson here it should allow him to play the way he wants, or at least thats what I would think. Umm he won La Liga with you guys his first and only season there. Anywhere Capello goes he wins. Its like a known fact, look it up on wikipidia :P Juventino 21-08-2006, 03:55:PM Thats your opinion but I disagree. I dont rate him that highly, look at the teams he has managed...they were for the most part very good. At Roma he won only 1 league title right? The ones with Juve were taken away right? His first Milan team was great and he did well with them, his second try was... :rolleyes: . You see where I am going? His tactic is plain as bricks and rarely does he change it to suit his next game. I dont really wanna defend Capello... but that doesn't make alot of sense. Yes, his teams were extraordinary, but he build each one of them. He won won 4 titles in 5 years with Milan, including a 58 match unbeaten run, and 3 Champions League finals. Then he took Real Madrid to a championship in 1 year when they ended 6th or so the year before. That one year at Milan after was a fluke, okay, it happens. After that he took Roma to ONLY 1 league title? It's their 2nd in history... He pretty much took them from average and european spot challengers to scudetto challengers. The two scudetti taken away from Juve wasnt his fault... Besides, the 05/06 was found legit, but because of Juve's punishment for the 04/05 season, the scudetto was awarded to Inter. Socrates 21-08-2006, 04:11:PM I dont really wanna defend Capello... but that doesn't make alot of sense. Yes, his teams were extraordinary, but he build each one of them. He won won 4 titles in 5 years with Milan, including a 58 match unbeaten run, and 3 Champions League finals. Then he took Real Madrid to a championship in 1 year when they ended 6th or so the year before. That one year at Milan after was a fluke, okay, it happens. After that he took Roma to ONLY 1 league title? It's their 2nd in history... He pretty much took them from average and european spot challengers to scudetto challengers. The two scudetti taken away from Juve wasnt his fault... Besides, the 05/06 was found legit, but because of Juve's punishment for the 04/05 season, the scudetto was awarded to Inter. Of course he builds his teams which cost a good amount of money too but my point is that I dont rate him that highly as say someone like Mourinho (even if he talks too much). It seems to be a common thing among a lot of people that if Capello is your coach you will win a cup or whatnot no matter what. How long was he at Roma? 1 league title, even if its their second in thier history is still a valid point. Sure the Juve incident was not his fault but because of that incident it makes people question his victories. Just my opinion of course. Jaouadinho 21-08-2006, 04:25:PM i think u guys should critzires capp if he doest win any thing this year. me personally i think he was the perfect man for the job at this moment of time, when we need to win something now. but i think he will leave in a couple of years. then we could get a coach that can build for the future and play good atrective football. Juventino 21-08-2006, 04:36:PM How long was he at Roma? 1 league title, even if its their second in thier history is still a valid point. Alright, well that's only thing I really disagree on. He was there for 5 years I think, but Roma is the 4th Italian team, with alot less financial power then Juve, Milan and Inter. It's much much much harder winning a scudetto with them then with any of the top 3 teams. The top 3 teams can rebuild their squads with world class players in one summer and make an immediate challenge again, but Roma doesnt have that kind of money available. But I agree to disagree. :p faceNside 21-08-2006, 05:38:PM AS is anti-Capello all of a sudden. It seems they didn't like at all how the team played at the Carranza trophy.Totally agree, thyey are pro Floren, if AS could decide they would play Beckham as DM or RB. Nuno 21-08-2006, 05:43:PM Marca is reporting that there is a minor hold up in Diarra travelling to Madrid. His agent needs to clear up some kind of money issue first with Lyon. Apparently Lyon is suppose to pay 5% of his tranfer fee to his previous clubs. :S Socrates 21-08-2006, 05:49:PM Marca is reporting that there is a minor hold up in Diarra travelling to Madrid. His agent needs to clear up some kind of money issue first with Lyon. Apparently Lyon is suppose to pay 5% of his tranfer fee to his previous clubs. :S hmm thats kind of weird, why is his agent clearing it up. Shouldnt it be between Lyon and his former club that has to clear it up? Lean 21-08-2006, 05:58:PM I wouldn't want Cicinho anywhere near RB. Do you know how many goals he'd cost us? Indeed, he's a terrible defender. Nuno 21-08-2006, 06:47:PM hmm thats kind of weird, why is his agent clearing it up. Shouldnt it be between Lyon and his former club that has to clear it up? I didn't really understand it that well. Maybe Face or Rusi can explain it better. R.9 21-08-2006, 06:49:PM To be honest Cicinho it a bit weak as a RB.Ramos should play as a RB for me. Jaouadinho 21-08-2006, 06:53:PM but if we are going to have diarra an emerson in midfield, they will be able to cover for him and that way we wont conced that many goals. i prefer ramos as cente back. Nuno 21-08-2006, 07:13:PM I'd like it if we could sign Gallas away from Chelsea. Then Ramos would be free to play RB and Cicinho could alternate with Becks. Nuno 21-08-2006, 08:02:PM Yes!!! We gave Raul Bravo a 3 year contract extension and sold Ruben(aka crying Nancyboy) to Racing Santandar. Also Calderon was confirmed as our President for the 300th time. Gene Reginato 21-08-2006, 08:04:PM Cicinho has always played as a RB. You should sell him if he is not going to play in this position anymore. SlowSilver 21-08-2006, 08:10:PM Cicinho has always played as a RB. You should sell him if he is not going to play in this position anymore. Why? If he can play on the wing, then he'd be useful. Socrates 21-08-2006, 08:35:PM Yes!!! We gave Raul Bravo a 3 year contract extension and sold Ruben(aka crying Nancyboy) to Racing Santandar. Hey come on now, that game was not his fault. Oh and I heard that we had a chance to sign Gallas but Roman pulled out at the last min... SlowSilver - Cicinho is not good at RW as we have seen last season and this pre-season aswell. He is much better playing as a RB, yes his defence is not good but Salgado is no better and as of now Ramos is most likely going to be our CB. Gene Reginato 21-08-2006, 08:41:PM Why? If he can play on the wing, then he'd be useful. His great asset is his speed when overlapping for a cross, or to shoot to the goal, because he surprise the defenders, if he is already in the attack, there's no surprise. Nuno 21-08-2006, 08:43:PM Hey come on now, that game was not his fault He's a girlie man!! In other news... I LOVE DISH NETWORK!!! Sun Aug 27 10:58AM Eastern Length: 2 hr 2 min LIVE World Sport HD Futbol de Espana - La Liga Real Madrid vs Villarreal Socrates 21-08-2006, 09:07:PM He's a girlie man!! That situation was poorely handled and it was anything but his fault. mega montana 21-08-2006, 09:47:PM damn will raul bravo be around forever? :nape: Jaouadinho 21-08-2006, 09:57:PM well actually bravo is a good back up and he is usefull as he can play anywhere in defense, and he always gives a 100%, i wouldnt consider him a starter but as a back up he is great. Socrates 21-08-2006, 09:59:PM well actually bravo is a good back up and he is usefull as he can play anywhere in defense, and he always gives a 100%, i wouldnt consider him a starter but as a back up he is great. Not really a great player, a decent backup for LB ( Not CB or RB ) but thats it really. I dont like him tbh but meh whatever. Jaouadinho 21-08-2006, 10:04:PM so any news on guardado, i saw a couple of videos of him he is quite good i hope we sign him. :rockman: just read the article about casillas i think its because casillas looks non motivated in training and he is trying to motivate him. Vedran-10 21-08-2006, 10:24:PM Well, did AS say that Capello was planning on using your second keeper THIS SEASON or that he was planning on benching Casillas FOR THE NEXT GAME? BTW I love reading Socrates' posts... :) So much enthusiasm. Pfft this, meh that. No offense of course, it's funny to read. I'd probably have the same level of "optimism" if Rijkaard did everything the opposite way of what I wanted/expected. It'll be a very interesting season. :p mega montana 21-08-2006, 10:43:PM i think it's just for the next game, but AS blew it out of proportion sounds more like capello was just describing why lopez is getting a shot Dreath 21-08-2006, 11:08:PM I've put a bet on you lot to win the league. You lot better or I'll be back saying how crap your chairboard is and I'll think of something else to criticise. modena_10 22-08-2006, 12:07:AM gentlemen, who will be the starting CB's for real this year? or atleast starting the season. mega montana 22-08-2006, 12:43:AM gentlemen, who will be the starting CB's for real this year? or atleast starting the season. right now, ramos and cannavaro, but capello wants more size so who knows woody is rumored to arsenal, so i'd bet on seeing a cb head our way if that's the case (mexes, chivu, gallas) helguera and pavon are almost positively gone :hump: Hang0ne 22-08-2006, 12:51:AM hows RVn doing @ RM R.9 22-08-2006, 02:30:AM right now, ramos and cannavaro, but capello wants more size so who knows woody is rumored to arsenal, so i'd bet on seeing a cb head our way if that's the case (mexes, chivu, gallas) helguera and pavon are almost positively gone :hump: Woody should stay if he can stay healty and Helguera has a offer from Fenerbahçe but he refuse the offer. RUSI 22-08-2006, 03:40:AM Been away for a couple days... Guys, don't look too much into some of the crap AS is saying. I amn just waiting for our left-over players to be off-loaded. Drvar 22-08-2006, 08:57:AM i dont want Woody to leave. yeah theres a big chance he'll get injured, but one thing is for sure, if he stays healthy, he'll play like a madman, wanting to give the fans what they've been waiting for these last 2 years. mega montana 22-08-2006, 11:08:AM i dont want Woody to leave. yeah theres a big chance he'll get injured, but one thing is for sure, if he stays healthy, he'll play like a madman, wanting to give the fans what they've been waiting for these last 2 years. key word IF we've been waiting for him to be healthy since we bought him, time to move on Jaouadinho 22-08-2006, 11:57:AM right now we have 26 players in the squad we need to sell some players and quickley. SlowSilver 22-08-2006, 12:35:PM right now we have 26 players in the squad we need to sell some players and quickley. Really? Thanks for telling us something that's been posted a million times before. (Y) Nuno 22-08-2006, 06:30:PM Diarra is undergoing his medical right now and will be presented at 21:15 CET. http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6diarrareconocimientop.jpg datboy 22-08-2006, 07:53:PM here's the squad for Real-Anderlecht (Bernabeu Trophy) tomorrow: GOALKEEPERS: Iker Casillas and Diego López. DEFENDERS: Michel Salgado, Sergio Ramos, Cannavaro, Roberto Carlos, Cicinho, Mejía, Pavón, Raúl Bravo and Woodgate. MIDFIELDERS: Beckham, Emerson, Javi García, and Robinho. FORWARDS: Baptista, Van Nistelrooy, Cassano, and Raúl. Capello takes back Pavón and leaves out Juanfran :nape: and Helguera. Diarra wont play tomorrow. but my guess is he will start against Villarreal ;) faceNside 22-08-2006, 08:54:PM http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6288diarraposep.jpg http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6288diarrasaludo2p.jpg Shocking news: Calderon says he will meet Milan representatives tomorrow to listen their offer for Ronaldo. "We don't need money at the moment, and Milan know that, so we would have to speak about other things" Maybe a Ronaldo-Kaka exchange? :confused: RUSI 22-08-2006, 09:19:PM Only if Kaka comes should we let him go. I want to keep Ronie if Kaka doesn't come. No number for Diarra yet.. dannyeli 22-08-2006, 09:20:PM keep dreaming rusi TheBlueBalla 22-08-2006, 09:21:PM I dont think Milan will try and skin you with Ronaldo. They have virtually no options left, and its clear that Gilardino and Pippo are not going to be enough for a team of their calibre. Even if Ronaldo is a stopgap, they will pay some cash to get him, im sure of it So is the Reyes deal dead for Madrid? If so, damn. I thought I called that one so well mega montana 22-08-2006, 09:24:PM damn i would love to get rid of ronaldo about kaka, keep dreaming :| we'll probably get some first option on him, if anything right now i'd settle for whatever cash we can get for el gordo RUSI 22-08-2006, 09:28:PM Ronaldo is our only option apart from Ruud at CF as a true #9. That is why we shouldn't sell him unless the offer is really good. The crowd was shouting for Kaka at the presentation. http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/681785.html Dreath 22-08-2006, 09:33:PM I dont think Milan will try and skin you with Ronaldo. They have virtually no options left, and its clear that Gilardino and Pippo are not going to be enough for a team of their calibre. Even if Ronaldo is a stopgap, they will pay some cash to get him, im sure of it So is the Reyes deal dead for Madrid? If so, damn. I thought I called that one so well The Reyes deal dying was a surprise for me. I'm not on for keeping unhappy players or players who want out. RUSI 22-08-2006, 10:30:PM I think it will happen the last day of the transfer season. djgperu1 22-08-2006, 10:33:PM http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/150f1d6288diarrasaludo2p.jpg damn... lookin forward for a new wallpaper (6) jani 22-08-2006, 10:43:PM Ronaldo is close to Milan... OrgulloVikingo 23-08-2006, 12:14:AM So Calderon said he has a surprise in the next coming days. Hmmm...who could it be? Lets see...Kaka? Stranger things have happened. He's cup tied but so what...he could be a monster for La Liga. And there's always next year. I have a feeling Gallas or Cole will be coming by. And then there's Reyes.....I know there's one more signing coming. But for now, let me rejoice for getting Mr. Diarra :jacko: Hala Madrid! Ottoman 23-08-2006, 12:23:AM We wanted Roberto Carlos with ambition. Unfortunately it didnt happen. I hope he will help Real madrid's succes in this season. |