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RUSI

17-05-2006, 03:07:PM

Real Madrid Club de Fútbol

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Official Real Madrid Website (http://www.realmadrid.es)

Founded : 1902

This thread is for ...

Results
News
Speculation
Rumors
Discussion
Articles
etc.

Hopefully this thread will work out. :)

2003-2004 Real Madrid Thread for reference. (http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?threadid=92325)

2004-2005 Real Madrid Thread for reference. (http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=108187)

2005-2006 Real Madrid Thread for reference. (http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=123706)

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Real Madrid Championships

Intercontinental Cups 1960, 1998, 2002

European Champions Cups 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1966, 1998, 2000, 2002

UEFA Cups 1985, 1986

UEFA Super Cup 2002

Spanish Champions 1932, 1933, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1972, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2003

Spanish Cups 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1917, 1934, 1936, 1946, 1947, 1962, 1970, 1974, 1975, 1980, 1982, 1989, 1993

League Cup 1985

Spanish Super Cups 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2003

Copa Latina 1956

Regional Champions 1904, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1913, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1920, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1926, 1927, 1929, 1930, 1931

Little Cups 1952, 1956

Community Trophies 1932, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936

Trofeo Santiago Bernabéu 1981, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006

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The 2005-2006 Real Madrid Squad

http://www.realmadrid.com/fondosescritorio/foto_oficial800x600.jpg

President
Ramón Calderón

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/3e2246288calderonentrevista1p.jpg

Manager
Fabio Capello

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/5ca6c6288capello2p.jpg

Goalkeepers
1 - Iker Casillas
13 - Diego López

Defenders
2 - Míchel Salgado
3 - Roberto Carlos
4 - Sergio Ramos
5 - Fabio Cannavaro
6 - Iván Helguera
11 - Cicinho
15 - Raúl Bravo
19 - Jonathan Woodgate
20 - Oscar Miñambres
22 - Francisco Pavón
24 - Álvaro Mejía

Midfielders
8 - Júlio Baptista
12 - Pablo García
14 - José María Guti
16 - Thomas Gravesen
20 - Emerson
21 - Mahamadou Diarra
23 - David Beckham

Forwards
7 - Raúl
9 - Ronaldo
10 - Robinho
17 - Ruud van Nistelrooy
18 - Antonio Cassano

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2005 - 2006 Transfers -

In
Fabio Cannavaro from Juventus F.C. for 7 € million.
Emerson from Juventus F.C. for 16 € million.
Ruud van Nistelrooy from Manchester United F.C. for 15 € million.
Juanfran returning from a one-year loan at Espanyol.
Javier Portillo returning from a one-year loan at Club Brugges.
Borja returning from a one-year loan at Real Mallorca.
Mahamadou Diarra from Olympique Lyonnais for 26 € million.

Out
Zinedine Zidane retires from Professional Football.
Roberto Soldado to Osasuna on a one-year loan.
Alvaro Arbeloa to Deportivo La Coruña for an undisdclosed fee.
Jurado to Atlético Madrid for 3 € million.
Carlos Diogo to Real Zaragoza on a one-year loan.

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2005 - 2006 Statistics -

Goals -

Ronaldo: 14
Zidane: 9
Robinho: 8
Baptista: 8
Raúl: 7

Assists -

Beckham: 13
Zidane: 10
R.Carlos: 6
Guti: 6
Cicinho: 4

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El Estadio Santiago Bernabéu - (http://www.realmadrid.com/elclub/bernabeu/portada_esp.htm)

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Real Madrid C.F. 2006/2007 Kit -

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7309/rm14rb.jpg http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/6241/rm20ql.jpg http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7426/rm39cv.jpg

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06/07 Preseason Schedule -

July 12 - July 16 - La Ciudad Deportiva, Madrid

July 17 - August 5 - Irdning, Austria
- - - July 21 - Real Madrid C.F. 1 - 0 Plymouth Argyle
- - - July 25 - Real Madrid C.F. 10 - 2 ATV Irdning
- - - July 29 - Real Madrid C.F. 0 - 0 Fulham F.C.
- - - August 3 - Real Madrid C.F. 1 - 0 Reggina in Graz, Austria

August 7 - 13 - USA Tour
- - - August 9 - Real Madrid C.F. 1 - 1 DC United in Seattle, Washington
- - - August 12 - Real Madrid C.F. 2 - 0 Real Salt Lake in Salt Lake City, Utah

Trofeo Ramón de Carranza in Cádiz
- - - August 18 - Real Madrid C.F. 3 - 3 Betis
- - - August 19 - Real Madrid C.F. 0 - 1 Villarreal C.F.

Trofeo Santiago Bernabéu in Madrid
- - - August 23 - Real Madrid C.F. 2 - 0 RSC Anderlecht

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2006-2007 Real Madrid La Liga Fixtures (http://www.marca.com/futbol/calendario_0607/equipos/rmadrid1.html)

2006-2007 Real Madrid Champions League Fixtures (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50051/competition=1/index.html)

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2006-2007 Match Fixtures & Results -

Home : August 27 - REAL MADRID -- Villarreal

Away : September 10 - Levante -- REAL MADRID
Away : September 13 - Olympique Lyonnais -- REAL MADRID
Home : September 17 - REAL MADRID -- Real Sociedad
Away : September 24 - Real Betis -- REAL MADRID
Home : September 26 - REAL MADRID -- Dynamo Kyiv

Home : October 1 - REAL MADRID -- Atlético Madrid
Away : October 15 - Getafe -- REAL MADRID
Away : October 17 - Steaua Bucuresti -- REAL MADRID
Home : October 22 - REAL MADRID -- FC Barcelona
Away : October 29 - Gimnástic -- REAL MADRID

Home : November 1 - REAL MADRID -- Steaua Bucuresti
Home : November 5 - REAL MADRID -- Celta Vigo
Away : November 12 - Osasuna -- REAL MADRID
Home : November 19 - REAL MADRID -- Racing Santander
Home : November 21 - REAL MADRID -- Olympique Lyonnais
Away : November 26 - Valencia -- REAL MADRID

Home : December 3 - REAL MADRID -- Athletic Bilbao
Away : December 6 - Dynamo Kyiv -- REAL MADRID
Away : December 10 - Sevilla -- REAL MADRID
Away : December 17 - Espanyol -- REAL MADRID
Home : December 20 - REAL MADRID -- Recreativo Huelva

Away : January 7 - Deportivo La Coruña -- REAL MADRID
Home : January 14 - REAL MADRID -- Real Zaragoza
Away : January 21 - Real Mallorca -- REAL MADRID
Away : January 28 - Villarreal -- REAL MADRID

Home : February 4 - REAL MADRID -- Levante
Away : February 11 - Real Sociedad -- REAL MADRID
Home : February 18 - REAL MADRID – Real Betis
Away : February 25 - Atlético Madrid -- REAL MADRID

Home : March 4 - REAL MADRID -- Getafe
Away : March 11 - FC Barcelona -- REAL MADRID
Home : March 18 - REAL MADRID -- Gimnástic

Away : April 1 - Celta Vigo -- REAL MADRID
Home : April 8 - REAL MADRID -- Osasuna
Away : April 15 - Racing Santander -- REAL MADRID
Home : April 22 - REAL MADRID -- Valencia
Away : April 29 - Athletic Bilbao -- REAL MADRID

Home : May 6 - REAL MADRID -- Sevilla
Home : May 13 - REAL MADRID -- Espanyol
Away : May 20 - Recreativo Huelva -- REAL MADRID
Home : May 27 - REAL MADRID -- Deportivo La Coruña

Away : June 10 - Real Zaragoza -- REAL MADRID
Home : June 17 - REAL MADRID – Real Mallorca

datboy

06-07-2006, 12:28:PM

Fabio Capello's presentation

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/5ca6c6capellopresentacion288p.jpg

- Fabio Capello: “We need to recover the Real Madrid spirit.”
“I am thrilled to work with a squad that we're currently studying. I am convinced this is the most important Club in the world and we have to get back to winning titles. We have to work hard, be humble, and recover the Real Madrid spirit which has been lost over recent years. I am sure we'll win titles if we do.”

and some news on Kaká

he said in an interview that:
- I will only continue playing for AC Milan if they stay in Serie A. otherwise, we'll see.

Becks is God

06-07-2006, 01:50:PM

A new Era, a new team, a new Real Madrid.

justhammy

06-07-2006, 02:23:PM

This new Real Madrid will perform well under Capello!! Im sure of that!! He also said he has all trust in Raul, he sees him as Paolo Maldini! So Raul wont leave us!!! :D:D

'I will only continue playing for AC Milan if they stay in Serie A. otherwise, we'll see.'
We all will know it at the 10th of July ;) :junior: ;)

Nuno

06-07-2006, 02:27:PM

Becks is God, you should change that to Capello sign Joaquin! Calderon said that other than Kaka, he wouldn't be involved in any of the transfers. It'll be Capello and Mijatovic's jobs to arrange the team.

faceNside

06-07-2006, 02:33:PM

BemBeckham nice sqaud analysis in the old thread. Welcome new thread, btw :D

RUSI

06-07-2006, 04:48:PM

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/5ca6c6288capello2p.jpg

I love this photo.

What else should I put on the 1st post

RUSI

06-07-2006, 04:52:PM

Where else can I get statistics from last year, as doesn't have them, and that is where i got them last year

Crusad3r

06-07-2006, 04:53:PM

What else should I put on the 1st post

I would delete all the pics and info related to season 2004/2005 and 2005/2006 cause we must look forward to the future!!!

oussimoes

06-07-2006, 05:32:PM

some heard about the 25 milion a year for beckham, thats not the way to help the club financily

Crusad3r

06-07-2006, 06:40:PM

some heard about the 25 milion a year for beckham, thats not the way to help the club financily

If madrid pay 25 its cause Beckham is giving us more than 25 :)

newbie original

06-07-2006, 06:57:PM

great first post! Good move to get Capello...he deserves more time than the recent few!

Real Eye Man. United Pair
Real Madrid are weighing up a bid for Ruud van Nistelrooy - which will be bad news for Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo, 21, is desperate to quit Manchester United to avoid a hate campaign in the wake of his role in Wayne Rooney's red card against Portugal last weekend. But the winger has also had a long-running feud with Dutch striker van Nistelrooy at Old Trafford. New Real president Ramon Calderon admitted: "Van Nistelrooy is another of our options and so is Ronaldo. It depends on what Fabio Capello decides."
Eric Beauchamp, The Sun

Nuno

06-07-2006, 07:13:PM

Personally, I hope Ronaldo joins us. He doesn't deserve the hate he's getting. He didn't even do anything wrong.

R.9

06-07-2006, 09:35:PM

Well another new season will start soon i am sure this year will be better with Capello as coach. :rockman:

mega montana

07-07-2006, 01:30:AM

good to see capello is here, i'm looking forward to his discipline the next few seasons

cant wait to have the transfers start! :corn:

Moreira_Benfica

07-07-2006, 01:51:AM

at first i didn't want ronaldo to go to real but now seeing how the english are acting towards him over litterly nothing i hope he gets outta there ASAP good luck next year guys

Socrates

07-07-2006, 02:28:AM

Ah nice new thread. Not too much to post from me.

About C. Ronaldo, if Man Utd really want to sell him than we should only accept if its for a good price otherwise no thanks. Apart from his playacting/diving he looked very nice in the game vs France. Also there is Joaquin as another option.

One more thing the game vs Real Salt Lake might not happen. Calderon said that Capello will be very much involved in the preseason and what matches we play. According ot AS Capello says we are still trying to decide if we will go to the United States or not. He stats that the preseason games are fundamental as it is need to do a lot of physical work. This is very good to hear imo, enough of the crazy tours that we put the players through, time to do actual work instead of having our players sign a bunch of autographs and promote RM.

mex.popae

07-07-2006, 06:43:AM

About C. Ronaldo, if Man Utd really want to sell him than we should only accept if its for a good price otherwise no thanks. Apart from his playacting/diving he looked very nice in the game vs France. Also there is Joaquin as another option.

I think Joaquin would be an excellent signing, as he can play both sides and constantly changes sides. IMO, better than Ronaldo, and way cheaper.

I think what we need is a left winger, so can Robinho can quit playing there and use his full potential elsewhere in the field.

I'm sure that Capello will bring good things to the Casa Blanca. Well, at least I think he is the real deal, as he has already won many many things in Europe. Who can remember the fatidic day FP thought it would be the greatest idea to change one great coach (Del Bosque) for an assistant Manager... I hope those days are gone for good.

SlowSilver

07-07-2006, 08:01:AM

Joaquin is probably better than Ronaldo, but Ronaldo could potentially be the best player in the world. Ronaldo would shine in La Liga.

BenBeckham

07-07-2006, 08:03:AM

Wow already a new Thread :) - hopefully it will bring some good times and football back.

@ RUSI - you could update the 1st post with that :ewan:

Real Madrid 06/07
Home
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7309/rm14rb.jpg

Away
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/6241/rm20ql.jpg

Third
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7426/rm39cv.jpg

BemBeckham nice sqaud analysis in the old thread. Welcome new thread, btw :D

thx - I'll take it over in my 1st post in this thread, so I'll be able to check how right or wrong I was.

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Here's my 2 cents worth about the Squadverdict:
This is what I think will happen - not necessarily what I wish.

Casillas- will stay, longterm contract, appart from a bad end to last season a top performer
Salgado – on his way, old, slow, surely not in Caps thinking.
R.Carlos – on the brink – offer from chelsea / probable LB replacement coming ?
Ramos – will stay, longterm deal, has a lot to learn, but a great player already
Zidane – retired (soon)
Helguera – definetly gone, had a poor season, surely has no future at the club
Raul – he is aswell on the brink, shadow of his great former self, can't see him being a starter under Capello and he won't like it sitting on the bench.
Baptista – I think he will get his chance with Capello
Ronaldo – on his way out, Capello doesn't like him I think, and he's so moody, non teamworkers will be quickly moved out by Capello I'd say.
Robinho – he's a certain stayer, long term deal, good future ahead of him.
Cicinho - can be fairly save aswell of his place, specially with Salgado and Diogo probably out
P.Garcia – probably can pack his bags
Lopez – if he doesn't leave the club with the offer he got, a sure number 2 under capello
Guti – I think from the „old“ madrid he'll be one of the few to survive the cut
R.Bravo – he aswell will remain as a squad player
Gravesen – quite unsure about him – have no clue
Woodgate – on his way out sooner than later with his injury history
Cassano – I'd say a certain stayer
Minambres – probably shipped out to make room for youngsters
Diogo – can pack his bags I'd say
Pavon – like Gravesen I'm unsure if he'll stay, probably depends on how many defenders get bought.
Beckham – more on him later in my post.
Mejia – will remain, squad player at least, 100% ahead of Pavon

Soldado – will get his chance – at least getting into the A-Team for good.
De La Red – same as Soldado
Balboa, Jurado, Arbeloa could get promoted into the 25 squad

as for Becks:

Madrids Moneymen want him to stay almost at all costs, as does the president, the official supplier (Adidas) and probably all sponsors aswell.
I have no Idea if Capello likes him or not but I think Becks there got a „Carte Blanche“ because of the above mentioned things.

Becks himself want to stay aswell + he has „only“ 2 years to run on his contract I think + not many clubs can afford him, and he doesn't want to join any random club aswell.

Footballingwise if Capello really wants Nistelrooy, of corse it would make enormous sense to keep Becks – because he suplied Ruud with the crosses in order for him to break all scoring records and make him a world class finisher.

Performancewise Becks has been ok for Madrid last Season and aswell for England during the World Cup, of corse not great but not that bad either as all make it. I think it will be important and that counts generally – that the balance is right in the Midfield in order to bring out his best.

Anyway to summ it up:
I think this will be the „core“ of next seasons Madrid (without the incoming transfers“

18 Players to remain:
Casillas
R.Carlos (ev)
Ramos
Raul (ev)
Baptista
Robinho
Cicinho
Lopez
Guti
Bravo
Gravesen (ev)
Cassano
Becks
Mejia
Soldado
De La Red
Jurado
Balboa

8 Players on the way out:
Salgado
Helguera
Ronaldo
Garcia
Woodgate
Minambres
Diogo
Pavon
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justhammy

07-07-2006, 08:09:AM

Joaquin is class, but so is Ronaldo and Ronaldo is just 21 and has great talent! (except diving :() I really hope we dont get RvN btw. He may be great in EPL, but in La Liga he will s*ck! He has no technique, speed or dribbling skills. He just can finish, but lets face it...most of his goals are really so easy that even my mum could make them. I understand Capello if he wants him, because Becks + RvN = success. But i dont think someone here wants Ruud. (:/)

SlowSilver

07-07-2006, 08:10:AM

Woody :( I have to agree with you on this one though, he just can't stay fit. I think I heard the longest he's ever stayed injury free for, was 7 matches in a row. :|

Thelonious

07-07-2006, 11:55:AM

This is from a wikipedia article on Cassano

He scored on his debut for the merengues on January 18, in a Copa del Rey match against Real Betis, and Madrid's 2-1 win over city rivals Atlético Madrid, but his failure to gain a regular place in the side led to reports that Madrid are seeking to cash in on his reputation in his native Italy. This may not be so easy, as, in addition to continuing reports of his erratic and anti-social attitude, his expanding waistline, due to a weakness for chocolate, cakes, as well as soft drinks, beer, sweets and pies, led in May 2006 to Madrid fining him for every gram he remains overweight.

does anyone know if its true :rofl:

BenBeckham

07-07-2006, 12:41:PM

I would be happy to get Ruud.

I think RM hat lots of passes/crosses from the midfield into the box last season and could rarely use them (no decent header appart Ramos and Woodgate), neither a clinical in the box finsher.

I wouldn't mind Nistelrooy at all, specially with his link up and success history for scoring plenty of goals with Becks.
Of corse that would only work with a 2nd striker around him, so no 4-5-1 etc.

Nistelrooy is actually quite good at going past people, he just doesn't do it the flashy way. He uses his body and puts it between the ball and the opponent, then turns and runs past- no stepovers.

As for Woodgate, he is really superb when fit - but that is were the problem lies.

justhammy

07-07-2006, 12:50:PM

I just read in a newspaper that Capello wants C. Ronaldo and the bid would be read carefully 33(!!!!!!) Mil ....Ok, i really like C. Ronaldo, he has huge talent! But come on! 33 mil!! WTF?! I hope this isnt true!

datboy

07-07-2006, 12:53:PM

Fabio Capello is understood to have made Gianluca Zambrotta and Cannavaro his primary defensive targets.

In the case of Zambrotta, our new coach called him yesterday while on International duty with Italy and proposed a possible move to Madrid, which was reportedly accepted.

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Capello/llamo/Zambrotta/venga/Madrid/dasftbA00/20060707dasdaiftb_30/Tes/

Milan trying to loan out Kaká to Lyon. to avoid selling him to Madrid. (:/)

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Milan/prefiere/dar/Kaka/Lyon/Real/Madrid/dasftb/20060707dasdaiftb_31/Tes/

Also, it seems Capello wants C. Ronaldo

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=154872

Vedran-10

07-07-2006, 01:16:PM

Signing Capello was a great move for Madrid. I think you solved the biggest problem in your team by bringing him.

oussimoes

07-07-2006, 01:17:PM

i hope ronaldo joins us he is much much better then jouquin and 33 mil is nothing because ronaldo is so amazing

RUSI

07-07-2006, 03:20:PM

Thanks for the picture Ben :$

It would be brilliant if we could get Zambrotta and Cannavaro. He(Fabio) has been the best defender i not the best player at the World Cup.

Galatasaray wasnt Gravesen for 3 million. They are already in Madrid. (http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/668784.html)

It seems Diogo will be loaned to Zaragoza since at RB we already have Cicinho and Salgado. I think this will be Salgado's final year with Madrid. (http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/zaragoza/es/desarrollo/668785.html)

Rochester Rhino

07-07-2006, 03:50:PM

Antonio, espnsoccernet has the stats but i think the only problem with them is that im not sure if they include Copa Del Rey.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team/squad?id=86&season=2005&cat=starts&view=1&cc=5901

RUSI

07-07-2006, 03:53:PM

Players Out: In my opinon

Salgado/Diogo: I say either keep Michel one more year and loan out Diogo, or sell Salgado now(which is what I would do)

Helguera: Old, sell him(He's lost so much in the past two seasons)

Ronaldo/Cassano: I think we should sell one of them to give us money for other signings. Proably Cassanova

Gravesen: Useless at the position we need him for(Keep P.Garcia as a back-up DM)

Woodgate: Feel bad for Woody. He just can't stay healthy,This one is a toss-up for me, but I guess sell him.

Miñambres: He is also injury-prone and hardly ever plays. No need to keep him.

Zidane: He's gone due to retirement. Thank you Zizou.

R. Carlos: This one is tough, he is still a great player, but there is much better out there, so I think we should sell him and make a move for Zambrotta or Cole.

Beckham: I feel bad for Becks, he has never fit in to the Spanish game. He's a great talent, just doesn't fit. Beckham also has a great mentality and what I like most is his work-ethic and intensity, I just think we'd be better with Joaquin or C. Ronaldo

Our Squad after selling:

Casillas
Ramos
Raul
Baptista
Ronaldo/Cassano
Robinho
Cicinho
Garcia
Diogo/Salgado
Pavon
Guti
Bravo
Diego López
Mejia
Soldado
De La Red
Jurado

shrekiejai

07-07-2006, 03:54:PM

I think Ronaldo will be quite good for you guys. In Spain, he'll probably get the space he needs to really cause some damage. He is quite an exciting talent, and if he gets to run, maybe he'll stop diving! He could be your answer to Messi.

I think it is a mutual beneficial deal, hope it goes through.

RUSI

07-07-2006, 03:55:PM

mega montana

07-07-2006, 05:51:PM

beckham has been linked to newcastle after being spotted at the same hotel as freddy shepard, head of newcastle united

that'd be crazy if they bought another player off us this year

newcastle definitely has the money to afford him though

BenBeckham

07-07-2006, 06:06:PM

and it has been denied by Newcastle & Simon Oliveira, a representative of Becks. Further Oliveira said "We are in negotiations to renew his Real Madrid contract"
BBC Article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/5157518.stm)

WilliamFAlmeida

07-07-2006, 08:03:PM

He could be your answer to Messi.

That is Robinho....

Nuno

07-07-2006, 08:05:PM

Robinho was good for like a quarter of last season. He needs to be more consistent. Hopefully Capello will utilize him wisely.

Becks is God

07-07-2006, 08:10:PM

Yea he played well comin off the bench for Brazil in the World Cup.

Nuno

07-07-2006, 08:21:PM

You know, it'd really be nice if we played with two legit strikers up front again. we played to much of last season with just one striker. I don't count Raul because he doesn't attack nearly as much as he used too.

Matter of fact, Owen--Ronaldo was our last great striking partnership. Luxe had to go a F that up.

WilliamFAlmeida

07-07-2006, 08:51:PM

The only reason Robinho didnt continue to shine was because 1. Luxa used him as a lone striker (what do you expect?) 2. Caro DROPPED Robinho after Raul came back :rolleyes:

justhammy

07-07-2006, 08:52:PM

Robinho was actually one of the best players last season! I think only Ramos and Casillas were better, but when there were all those injuries Robinho was pretty important!! And now he got stronger (if you v seen him at the WC you know what i mean) so he can fully explode this season!! He will ROCK!!!:D:D:D

MaestroZidane

08-07-2006, 12:59:AM

:ewan: Hey guys, I just started watching soccer in the beginning of the season last year and couldn't help myself but keep track of Madrid all season long. I really supported and cheered for them all season long despite all the ups and downs. I Will continue cheering for them and support them no matter what happens.

RUSI

08-07-2006, 03:08:AM

Welcome ;)

yt23w

08-07-2006, 04:03:AM

news around the traps today:
Barcelona can wreck Real Madrid plans for Arsenal's Cesc
El Mundo Deportivo says Barca have the right to veto any Fabregas move to a Spanish club and take him back themselves. The paper reports the Gunners agreed to the clause when they took Fabregas away from the Nou Camp in 2003.

This looks like a bad situation for us to be in. I hope Barca dont take it up....

A quick Poll!

Who will be Madrids 1st Major Signing/Selling?!?

i pick:
Gravensen/Jaoquin!

TheBlueBalla

08-07-2006, 04:05:AM

R.9

08-07-2006, 04:09:AM

PaPaGeorGeo

08-07-2006, 06:15:AM

Socrates

08-07-2006, 06:23:AM

question: I believe Capello is a "real" manager, and I have every faith that he is one of the best in the world today. His track record, even with great teams, has been immense.

But many of you here seem to believe that he is going to drop the form-less Raul at long last, something Luxembergo, Caro, Garcia-Remon, etc seemed unwilling, or better yet, unable to do. The club politics in Madrid are a fact of life, I know. But do you all think Capello can actually drop him without consequences? Has Raul's star faded in the eyes of the fans by that much?

edit: to help out doodinho's impromptou poll ill say Roberto Carlos (to Qatar, please god) gets sold first, and I think Joaquin will be your first buy, followed closesly by Reyes

Wait, do Barca have the right to just take cesc back at his buy out? They should jump on that right away if so

Drop Raul? Well he was quoted as saying that Raul will be a big part of his plans for next season and he expects a lot from him ( I think Raul should sit the bench if he is not doing well ). As for your last question, it just depends on who you ask. Some even want Raul to be sold :X ( something I am against ) but I dont mind it if he has to sit the bench.

I thought it was a price to match thing with Cesc? Like if say we offers 30 million euros to Arsenal and they accept than Barca has to offer the same amount...which would be weird, paying 30 mill for their own youth player and getting someone they dont need. I could be wrong though...

BenBeckham

08-07-2006, 07:34:AM

Gala want Grav / South American Friendly cancelled by Cap (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=401571&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=10&title=Real+Gala+interest+in+Gravesen)

Hehe I love Cap already for cancelling such useless far away friendlys :alex: to the moneymen.
I do feel sorry for those who now can't see the club live but it's for the good of the team.

So it seems Cap really got something to say in how things will run - hopefully aswell with the team selection and the sinings!

SlowSilver

08-07-2006, 09:27:AM

Man, Cap will turn us right around, he's already letting people know he's here now.

Can't wait for the new season man :D :junior:

Vedran-10

08-07-2006, 02:46:PM

You can have Cesc if you want.

For one thing, I don't know why Arsenal would sell him, seeing as they're a prospect of a team, with very young players who could be one of the best soon. Selling Cesc would be a mistake, but it's not my business.

For another, we are not Chelsea no.2. We don't have money to burn and we have to be careful about our outcomes. We're in debt and should save money for when we really need it.

And finally, we don't need Cesc, we don't want to spend the money (if we even have it), and your team is not that strong that we have to spend a fortune on a player we don't want nor need just so Madrid wouldn't have him/her.

Man, I hate Fabregas.

proxnet

08-07-2006, 04:01:PM

question: Wait, do Barca have the right to just take cesc back at his buy out? They should jump on that right away if so

i think it means that barca can get him back only if he is returning to another spanish club, not so sure though.

TheBlueBalla

08-07-2006, 06:02:PM

Its a bit more clear to me now. Thanks for the responses on the cesc thing and on Raul. I hope that he can recover his form too, but if he doesnt, I hate to see him clinging onto the end of the bench. I've never seen a "world class" player's form drop so strangely, but maybe with on ground service from better wingers (Robinho, Reyes/Joaquin/Ronaldo) he can be his former self

And finally, we don't need Cesc, we don't want to spend the money (if we even have it), and your team is not that strong that we have to spend a fortune on a player we don't want nor need just so Madrid wouldn't have him/her.

Man, I hate Fabregas.
Err, can I ask why you hate him? Is it because he agreed to the move to leave Barca? I was never sure if he was close to being promoted when he left

And I can never figure out why Barca are debt ridden. If they had the marketing people Chelsea, ManU and Madrid have, the blaugrana shirt would probably be the most popular in the world. Its really cool that you guys are getting Unicef to sponsor you. Very admirable

BenBeckham

08-07-2006, 06:34:PM

And I can never figure out why Barca are debt ridden. If they had the marketing people Chelsea, ManU and Madrid have, the blaugrana shirt would probably be the most popular in the world. Its really cool that you guys are getting Unicef to sponsor you. Very admirable

It is admirable and nice for Unicef - but not just for "free"

Barca will get positive publicity and it "softens" the hardcore "members/board" approach on a sponsor-free-shirt since the tradition will be broken already. Don't be surprised if in 2-3 years time Unicef disapeared and a major Brand is on the shirt instead.

I find it wrong for a humanity/charitable organisation to get tied to a club in any such way. Just imagine if the clubs gets somehow into trouble by laws, moneylaundring or politics.

On 2 sidenotes: If all clubs and I mean ALL, would have the same such organisation as sponsor - of corse it would be different because it would show the united-cosmopolitan-way of thinking and no club would be prefered.

the best yet would be Sponsorfree shirts but of corse that's utopia nowdays and impossible with the big business "football".

+ I don't know how it is with FIFA, UEFA, or clubs but the Swiss FA has it written in their "rules" almost at the 1st point:

to be no political, racial, religious associated in anyway

Sorry that was a bit Off Topic

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Anybody got news how the name/number font will look like ?

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Based on my guess how the Squad will be sorted (see page 2 of this thread) I think this is going to be the XI without new sinings taken into account.

-------------Casillas----------
Cicinho--Ramos---Mejia--Bravo
Becks--DeLaRed--Guti--Robinho
-----------------Baptista------
----------Cassano-------------

Bench:
Lopez
Soldado
Jurado
Balboa

What do you think will the line up be ?- with the current players no new sinings

But honestly I see only 2 spots/positions taken for granted 100%ly

-------------Casillas----------
---x----Ramos------x-----x---
---x-------x--------x-----x---
---.-------x--------x---------

I'd like to know with what formations Cap wants to play (2 upfront strikers ? a back 4 etc) and which player he wants to keep, getting rid of and buy. - it's gonna be a long long summer probably...

RUSI

08-07-2006, 06:40:PM

I think Robinho is an almost guarantee in our starting XI.

I really hope Becks is out.

BenBeckham

08-07-2006, 06:48:PM

that about Robinho may be - but as a LM, RM CM etc - that's what I meant with positions.
Basically the whole thing could look comepletly different, depending on what players get signed so only Casillas and Ramos are set in stone.

at the begining of the Season you're wish probably gets true, since Becks is out for 6 weeks and won't have the same training/fitness as all, that have done the preseason.

Crusad3r

08-07-2006, 07:00:PM

mega montana

08-07-2006, 09:57:PM

tribalfootball says chelsea wants beckham :rofl:

:wootman:

Vedran-10

08-07-2006, 11:26:PM

Admirable would be to put Toyota or Sony in the T-shirt, getting 15€ millions per year, and giving all that money to Unicef.

But Barça dont care Africa children, they just care theirselves like other every football club.

His president is Laporta, nuff said, he is a big bastard that always wanna look like a big guy.

You recieve money from your sponsor, we won't.

But obviously you see grounds for an argument.

RUSI

08-07-2006, 11:58:PM

The question is not if, it is when, and for how much?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5120332.stm

R.9

09-07-2006, 01:30:AM

C.Ronaldo said after the game versus Germany that he don't want to return to England and want to play with Real Madrid.Will see what happen...

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/669326.html

Juventus would want 15m for Cannavaro, Zambrotta and Emerson.I would like Cannavaro and Zambrotta but i don't want Emerson.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/669266.html

mega montana

09-07-2006, 02:43:AM

i cant wait to hear all the manyoo fans backtracking now

"oh ronaldo will never leave!" :ewan:

mex.popae

09-07-2006, 06:49:AM

Juventus would want 15m for Cannavaro, Zambrotta and Emerson.I would like Cannavaro and Zambrotta but i don't want Emerson.

IMO Cannavaro would be our best buy, even when he may have only 2 years left. Imagine all the experience Ramos would get from Cannavaro.

About Ronaldo, as I already stated: it would be nice if he played here, but not for 30M... sounds quite "Florentinian"... and well, we all know where that leads us.

I also agree with R.9, I don't want Emerson either... Diarra would be the best buy IMO, but I wouldn't mind one or two years of our beloved Vieira.

Best of all lucks to Zinedine Zidane, second best footballer of all times IMO.

TheBlueBalla

09-07-2006, 08:50:AM

The question is not if, it is when, and for how much?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5120332.stm

:o :rofl:

This whole thing is just comedy to me. First the overreaction of English fans, the bitch antics of Ronaldo and the chorus of booing, and now he finally has had enough. I cant really say I blame him. God knows how emotionally fragile he is.

But you guys have to feel really good about this. He has basically killed his value by saying he wants to go, and you are getting him at 21. Its like having signed Figo not when he was in his prime at Barca, but when he was making his name at Sporting. 10+ years of Ronaldo in a leauge that will highlight and develop all his gifts is going to be a treat for football

SlowSilver

09-07-2006, 03:03:PM

i cant wait to hear all the manyoo fans backtracking now

"oh ronaldo will never leave!" :ewan:
When did they ever say that?

Moreira_Benfica

09-07-2006, 03:42:PM

i heard hes getting death threats to (:/)

SlowSilver

09-07-2006, 04:03:PM

Death threats? Man I feel so bad for him. I would love it if he came here, but for some reason, I get the feeling Sir Alex will talk Ronaldo out of this move.

mega montana

09-07-2006, 06:03:PM

:o :rofl:

This whole thing is just comedy to me. First the overreaction of English fans, the bitch antics of Ronaldo and the chorus of booing, and now he finally has had enough. I cant really say I blame him. God knows how emotionally fragile he is.

But you guys have to feel really good about this. He has basically killed his value by saying he wants to go, and you are getting him at 21. Its like having signed Figo not when he was in his prime at Barca, but when he was making his name at Sporting. 10+ years of Ronaldo in a leauge that will highlight and develop all his gifts is going to be a treat for football
i felt bad for him, he was getting booed in the games after they beat england, which is kinda weird

i think The Fiver said something like "Who knew there were so many Wayne Rooney fans in Germany" :rofl:

i agree, he'll be very cheap because he is forcing united's hand

BenBeckham

09-07-2006, 07:44:PM

Despite his public "I want to go" comment he wont be THAT cheap - has 4.5 yrs of contract left and I'm sure more than 1 team is interested in him.

SlowSilver

09-07-2006, 07:56:PM

Nah, Ronaldo will not be cheap. Don't expect to pay under £15-17m for him.

mega montana

09-07-2006, 10:11:PM

damn cannavaro has been incredible the whole world cup, another great match again today (Y) I really hope we can get him

zidane on the other hand was :|

datboy

09-07-2006, 11:30:PM

- NEWS -

Diarra and Cesc are the main objectives right now. Mijatovic will begin the final negotiations for Diarra next week. Madrid will pay around 25M euro for him.

Cesc wants a move to spain according to latest reports. Madrid are waiting for an answer from Arsenal. the agreement between Cesc's agent and Madrid is final. Baptista could be included in a deal.

Capello has decided to give Woodgate a final chance in Madrid. (if he can stay fit) (:/)

The new Real Madrid kit will be presented next week.

Zambrotta, Emerson and Cannavaro will play for us (on-loan) if Juventus plays in Serie B next season.

Cristiano Ronaldo will end up playing in Spain. i think Capello will pick him up very soon.

The team will go to Irdning, Austria again. they will be there in 20 days for pre-season training camp. (17th July-5th August)
after that it will be a few days rest in Madrid and then it's off to USA for a week to play 2 friendlies in Utah and Washington.

Capello is determined to cancel the trip to Chile in order to get better preparation for the up-coming season.

Bayern Munich are ahead of Madrid in the race for Ruud Van Nistelrooy.
apparently, Bayern is offering more money.

it seems Arjen Robben has rejected a move to Madrid and chooses to stay in Chelsea.

mega montana

10-07-2006, 01:36:AM

thanks for the update datboy

i was completely sold on robben and ruud, so i am not disappointed they wont be coming

what do you guys think about including baptista in a deal for cesc? I wish we could keep him for at least another year, he really came on in the 2nd half of the season

TheBlueBalla

10-07-2006, 01:36:AM

Err, I didnt mean to make light of death threats. When my dad asked why people hate Ronaldo, I realized that he has had such an up and down year. The father dying, the rape accusations, Portugal doing so well in the world cup, and now the booing. I really dont have anything against him, and I want to see him reach his full potential, but not against my team. I do kinda feel for him when alot of people dive all the time, but thats not to excuse it. And yeah, I agree with SS. I think he will cost you guys about 20 million P still, maybe less.

Which, when you think about Diarra for 25m Euro isnt bad at all :confused: I thought they were gonna fleece Madrid for him. Lyon have no real need to sell

damn cannavaro has been incredible the whole world cup, another great match again today (Y) I really hope we can get him

zidane on the other hand was :|
I see your Zidane reaction here and elsewhere, but I have to say take heart man. Im willing to bet that f*cko Materazzi said something dispicable to him to provoke that. Not to excuse him losing his cool. He was a great player for France, Juve, Madrid, in Ligue1, etc, and I know he is the best player I will probably ever see play. Even legends make mistakes

Rob

10-07-2006, 01:39:AM

You guys have no chance of getting Cesc.

R.9

10-07-2006, 02:05:AM

damn cannavaro has been incredible the whole world cup, another great match again today (Y) I really hope we can get him

zidane on the other hand was :|

I really hope we can get Cannavaro this guy was pure class for Italy the whole WC. I am sad for Zidane to finish like this but for me he be always be remember as a legend.

Can't stop the rush...

10-07-2006, 02:38:AM

Would be nice to get Cannavaro, he was awesome today and really the whole WC. Great ball winner and great anticipation. :jap:

Socrates

10-07-2006, 02:56:AM

R.9

10-07-2006, 03:16:AM

I would not trade Baptista for Cesc. Bad move, bad move. (N)

I am not sure if we must sell Baptista. (:/)

randy23

10-07-2006, 03:21:AM

randy23

10-07-2006, 03:27:AM

You guys have no chance of getting Cesc.

why do you people always come to this thread to talk sh!t about the team lets see if is true that we cant get Cesc if Arsenal is so interested on Baptista there is like an 90% of chance that Cesc its comming! I dont really like baptista it took too long for him to the comfi with the team! :s***:

PaPaGeorGeo

10-07-2006, 06:50:AM

I think its quite the opposite why do you come into your own thread and talk ****.

I'm not thinking of anything other than playing for Arsenal next season," he told Mundo Deportivo newspaper.

"I'm an Arsenal player 100%. No-one has told me anything to the contrary."

Rob

10-07-2006, 07:44:AM

why do you people always come to this thread to talk sh!t about the team lets see if is true that we cant get Cesc if Arsenal is so interested on Baptista there is like an 90% of chance that Cesc its comming! I dont really like baptista it took too long for him to the comfi with the team! :s***:
What the f*ck are you on about.

Talking sh*t? Its a f*cking observation that will be proven correct. Cesc is going NO WHERE, and why would he? He will improve ten-fold under Wenger as a player.

SlowSilver

10-07-2006, 07:57:AM

justhammy

10-07-2006, 11:17:AM

I really hope we keep Baptista! If we have to give Baptista for Cesc then Cesc can stay in London, hell he can f*ckin stay there for life if he wants. We can get Gago who is better then him!

:rockman: BAPTISTA!!! :rockman:

sharkman

10-07-2006, 11:28:AM

............................Casillas.............. ....................

Cicinho......Sergio Ramos.....Cannavaro........Zambrotta

......................Diarra..........Cesc........ ..................
Beckham........................................... .......Robben
..................Ronaldo.........Van Nistelroy..................

what you guys think? this seens to be the squad that cappello wants :ewan:

that ******* sucks.... Cannavaro is dope... if we can get him cheap then :bob: ... I hope Roberto Carlos stays.... Diarra , Cesc, Robben, RVN.... theyre all new players.. I hope it's not true. No Robinho is starting line up (:/)
That can't be real... We should only buy C.Ronaldo, try to sell Beckham, sell Raul, buy a CB, DMF.

yt23w

10-07-2006, 11:47:AM

2 things:
1: Real Madrid agree 15M deal for Juventus star trio

Real Madrid have struck a 15million deal with Juventus for three of their star players. The agreement was reached on Friday, which will see Fabio Cannavaro, Emerson and Gianluca Zambrotta all move to Madrid should Juve be demoted over the Calciopoli scandal. The deal includes a buy-back option for Juve once they return to Serie A. New Real coach Fabio Capello has already discussed the arrangement with the trio and all three are open to the move. The Brazilian Emerson is excited with the idea, and has already asked for information from his compatriots Roberto Carlos, Robinho and Ronaldo about Real. Zambrotta, who has a proposal from Barcelona and another from AC Milan, also prefers the Real Madrid option. Cannavaro is keen, but unlike his two teammates, would seriously consider dropping down a division to continue with Juve. All three know the deal has been agreed, with Real's new director Franco Baldini reaching terms with Juve chiefs Carlo Sant'Albano and Alessio Secco on Friday.

and 2

This thread is for ...

Results
News
Speculation
Rumors
Discussion
Articles
etc.

so if u dont like us guessing lineups then **** OFF!

BenBeckham

10-07-2006, 12:57:PM

Calderon "6-7 Players signed by 3 August"

READ (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=401954&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=10&title=Calderon+promises+signings)

Parker

10-07-2006, 01:31:PM

No way for Baptista and Cesc trade. I rather like to have Baptista than Fabregas. And we could give more chances to De La Red!

Cannavaro have great condition he's able to play at least 2 good seasons IMO. I hope he will join us.

Crusad3r

10-07-2006, 01:40:PM

No way for Baptista and Cesc trade. I rather like to have Baptista than Fabregas. And we could give more chances to De La Red!

Cannavaro have great condition he able to play at least 2 good seasons IMO. I hope he will join us.

Cesc is younger, better, spanish, and for everyone he will be a starter, Baptista will be a bench player this season.

Parker

10-07-2006, 02:17:PM

De La Red is also young, spanish and he's our graduate. I think we should at least give him chance before making transaction for around 20 mln.

TOON ARMY

10-07-2006, 02:36:PM

Gotta love the way some Madrid fans are talking as though Fabregas is already a Madrid player. :rofl:

Fabregas rejects Madrid move talk

Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas expects to report for pre-season training with the Gunners on 24 July and is unfazed by Real Madrid's reported interest.

Madrid's new president Ramon Calderon claimed the 19-year-old would be signed as one of his election promises but the midfielder has rejected talk of a move.

"I'm not thinking of anything other than playing for Arsenal next season," he told Mundo Deportivo newspaper.

"I'm an Arsenal player 100%. No-one has told me anything to the contrary."

Fabregas, who became Arsenal's youngest first-team player and scorer at the age of 16, won his first cap for Spain in March.

He was also the youngest member of his nation's World Cup squad and played in all four matches in Germany.

He revealed he would like to return home to play at some stage but said he was currently happy with his life in England.

"Sooner or later I would like to play in the Spanish league as I left when I was 16 and I haven't had the chance but at the moment I am really good in England," he said.

LINK - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/5162534.stm

RUSI

10-07-2006, 02:51:PM

Cesc will be justas hard to get as Kaka.

I think we have a chance. Also, consider the sourse, it came from a Barcelona newspaper.

Crusad3r

10-07-2006, 03:05:PM

Cesc is a smart player, unlike C.Ronaldo, he wont say he is leaving Arsenal until there is a contract signed.

Nuno

10-07-2006, 03:11:PM

Cristiano Ronaldo is in an entirely different situation that Cesc. As far as I know, England doesn't hate Cesc.

TOON ARMY

10-07-2006, 03:16:PM

justhammy

10-07-2006, 03:41:PM

It is all besides the point anyway. You can't get to Cesc unless Arsenal allow you to talk to him and the chances of that are slim. This is one player Wenger would never sell for any amount of your money, in my opinion.
In YOUR opinion! ;) But dont worry, if we dont get him then we can give our youngsters the chance (who are as good as him in MY opinion). And as the best alternative there is Gago (why doesnt Capello want him?!), he is better then Cesc.

TheBlueBalla

10-07-2006, 04:14:PM

Parker

10-07-2006, 04:35:PM

Since I dont see him projecting to be as good as Figo or Zidane, I think you can afford him then

You guys have lost sight. Cesc is a dream, but Xabi Alonso is reality. This guy is brilliant on every level, and since he has a great passing game while eseentially holding for Gerrard, it would be scary to see what he can do with a holding mid behind him. I guess he would be more of a plan B solution, but damn he could be awesome. Talk to Calderon, get it done, rob Liverpool of him, please

I totally agree with that. We don't need to spend around 20 mil or more over Cesc just becouse he is young. There are at least few better players... e.g. Xabi Alonso as TheBluaBalla mentioned.

RUSI

10-07-2006, 04:37:PM

Cesc is a pipe dream. I know it would be the sh*t to get him now as he is just developing his brilliance and have him as a lifetimer at Madrid, but Rob and TA are right. Wenger isnt intrested in selling to you lot. He has said he wants to move to Madrid later in his career. Since I dont see him projecting to be as good as Figo or Zidane, I think you can afford him then

I agree, I think it will be near impossible to get him from Arsenal, but if we don't, there are other alteratives like Fernando Gago from Boca Juniors. Gago is one of my favorite young players in the world, and in my opinon is very underrated. Plus, Gago has said many times that he wants a move to Spain.
It would be intresting to see him play vs. Messi seeing how they've grown up together playing on Argentina's youth teams.

You guys have lost sight. Cesc is a dream, but Xabi Alonso is reality. This guy is brilliant on every level, and since he has a great passing game while eseentially holding for Gerrard, it would be scary to see what he can do with a holding mid behind him. I guess he would be more of a plan B solution, but damn he could be awesome. Talk to Calderon, get it done, rob Liverpool of him, please

I wish we could, but that is one person I never see Rafa letting go. And to think, I am pretty sure Queiroz was coach when he left, and that was the one player I wanted us to get, and of course we didn't

And 15 million for those three players? Give me a break. It would take at least 25, even with Juve going down

I agree. I don't know what the hell the newspapers are talking about for so cheap..

mega montana

10-07-2006, 04:39:PM

i wish we could get xabi alonso

why havent we been linked to him? (:/)

Parker

10-07-2006, 04:43:PM

About Gago I've read interview with him and he said that he would like to play in Spain, especially in Real Madrid becouse of F. Redondo :) But Boca Juniors president won't let him go nowhere before 2007.

[EDIT]
Oh and there was this photo
http://www.26noticias.com.ar/adjuntos/imagen/17165.jpg LOL

TheBlueBalla

10-07-2006, 06:19:PM

Nice to see Alonso gettin some love around here. As you say, Rusi, Benitez probably doesnt want to part with him, but if you overspend I think he can be yours. He is highly underrated in England because of the freedom he allows a guy like Gerrard. If you really needed to, you could pull a page from the galactico acquisition playbook and flatter the guy before bidding for him. Would be a bit elaborate, but to get such an amazingly underrated player, definately worth it, in my opinion.

I dont know the first thing about this gago dude, so ill do some homework. But you all seem pretty convinced he's legit, and you were right about Mascherano, so...

Virgo

10-07-2006, 06:33:PM

here's hoping you guys get Cristiano Ronaldo.

Capello would definitely help him fulfill his potential and become one of the Top5 players in the world in a near future.

RUSI

10-07-2006, 06:46:PM

I dont know the first thing about this gago dude, so ill do some homework. But you all seem pretty convinced he's legit, and you were right about Mascherano, so...

He, along with Zabaleta(the captain who is now with Espanyol as a first-teamer) and Messi of course were the big reason Argentina won the u-20 world cup last summer.

Also, I was wondering what Capello wants to do with Cassano, I have a feeling he might trey to start him as a support striker. He has all the talent in the world, just needs help to harness it.

Crusad3r

10-07-2006, 06:47:PM

MaestroZidane

10-07-2006, 07:51:PM

though a little late, thanks for the welcome RUSI..

mega montana

10-07-2006, 08:42:PM

He, along with Zabaleta(the captain who is now with Espanyol as a first-teamer) and Messi of course were the big reason Argentina won the u-20 world cup last summer.

Also, I was wondering what Capello wants to do with Cassano, I have a feeling he might trey to start him as a support striker. He has all the talent in the world, just needs help to harness it.
i'm interested in seeing this as well, if anyone can get the best out of cassano, it's don fabio

now if cassano could just get in shape...

MaestroZidane

10-07-2006, 09:24:PM

The new era has just begun and already there's too much out there this summer to make the upcoming season more exciting. here are my two cents, and though a may lack the experience i will do my best..

I feel capello will be in the driver seat all the time so i'm less worried about politics being a big factor on the field this time around than in the previous season.

Cesc is a very good player with a lot of potential and as much as i woul like to see him in a real shirt, arsenal will never let him go.

Babtista started to shine in the second half of he season so i would like to see how much more he will do, but i fear that with the new signings he may only play for small periods. Wether this will be good or bad, only time will tell.

With most of the season being spent away from the field and then coming back and missing a lot of opportunities on goal that could of made a difference on our season, i really feel Raul will have much more playing time and try to prove everyone why he should be a starter.

C. Ronaldo is young, very talented and alot to offer. England fans will blame him for them bein'g out of the world cup and for rooney being carded. Despite what ManU tries to do, he probably won't stay.

justhammy

10-07-2006, 09:27:PM

Cassano would be a great SS!! Thats his position. And Capello is like a father of him. He will get his full potential with Capello as coach! That was the same as when Capello was with Roma! And i'm really praying (litteraly) to get Gago! I really dont understand why we dont get him! He is really better then Cesc and is also very young. I believe he is 20! He has also played more for Boca then Cesc for Arsenal!

Socrates

11-07-2006, 01:28:AM

Cesc is younger, better, spanish, and for everyone he will be a starter, Baptista will be a bench player this season.

Um what? We spent quite a bit of money on Baptista and he was our best player last season at one point and time. He better not be on the bench and he better not be going to Arsenal. Cesc is good but honestly I would not pay more than 20 million euros. Like Parker said there are other players we can go after, we dont need to be set on a certain player and get him no matter what. Its foolish to pay so much money just because our club cant see that there are other players to look at.

I have to admit I have not seen much of Gago but if all you are saying is true than we should take him. As to why we dont make an offical offer because he would take a non-eu spot and maybe because Capello likes proven players so I doubt he will consider getting him. Remember Calderon said that Capello will have full power so I am pretty sure he would most likely take for example Emerson ( :-puke: ) or someone else that is already a proven player over the option of getting Gago... (:/) Which brings up another question as to how he will treat our young players. 6-7 new players..damn thats a lot, I wonder how many will be leaving. Also he has said he would welcome a move to us but that Boca want to keep him. Good to know that he perfers us and I hear he might be the next Redondo (Y) :bob:

Rusi or anyone else got some vids of Gago?

RUSI

11-07-2006, 01:43:AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTOuk4n7wo

That is one from the u-20's semi i think vs. Brasil

Look at his movement and how he looks for a pass.

They call him the new Redondo

R.9

11-07-2006, 03:12:AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTOuk4n7wo

That is one from the u-20's semi i think vs. Brasil

Look at his movement and how he looks for a pass.

They call him the new Redondo

The kid has great ball technique. :clapwap:

rlrao1987

11-07-2006, 03:13:AM

capello will bring great glorious years for real madrid.
he is waaaaaaaay better than his predecessors

jani

11-07-2006, 04:25:AM

Capello wants Ruud. I think for sure you will get him.

rlrao1987

11-07-2006, 04:39:AM

ruud the dude wants to go to bayern as some papers say.
capello would surely bring some of his juve players to real madrid.

rlrao1987

11-07-2006, 04:48:AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTOuk4n7wo

That is one from the u-20's semi i think vs. Brasil

Look at his movement and how he looks for a pass.

They call him the new Redondo

well gago certainly has good ball control and has very good movements in this video.

jani

11-07-2006, 04:48:AM

Yeah, Ruud maybe wants to go to Bayern because no one else showed interest. I think Ruud would prefer Madrid over Munich any day.

The players Capello will bring to Real are, Emerson, Zlatan and... Zebina (H)

rlrao1987

11-07-2006, 04:53:AM

i think ruud would prefer bayern because he needs games and thats not what he will get a lot if he joins madrid(remember owen). he will certainly be in starting 11 in bayern munich.

mega montana

11-07-2006, 05:59:AM

']Yeah, Ruud maybe wants to go to Bayern because no one else showed interest. I think Ruud would prefer Madrid over Munich any day.

The players Capello will bring to Real are, Emerson, Zlatan and... Zebina (H)
haha, zebina? I dont think Cicinho will have to worry :$

i have a feeling ruud will go to munchen, unless we get rid of ronaldo. If R9 is gone, Ruud should definitely be a starter. (Unless we bring Portigol home (6) )

RUSI

11-07-2006, 06:09:AM

I would start Soldado over Ruud.

anyways...

Interview - Pedja Mijatovic: "Cannavaro es el primer objetivo" (first objective) (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/habra/Galacticos/Quinta/Ferraris/dasftb/20060711dasdaiftb_22/Tes/)

Capello expects Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Emerson, and possibly Abbiati in 7 days. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Capello/espera/tener/Juve/dias/dasftb/20060711dasdaiftb_21/Tes/)

Man.Utd. offered 46 million for Iker Casillas (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Manchester/ofrece/46/millones/Casillas/dasftb/20060711dasdaiftb_24/Tes/) I don't believe this one, of course it says we declined.

Chelsea asked for Sergio Ramos price. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Chelsea/ha/pedido/precio/S/Ramos/dasftb/20060711dasdaiftb_23/Tes/)

SlowSilver

11-07-2006, 07:51:AM

Man Utd are always linked with Casillas. And yes, of course it's bull, United have just bought a new keeper. And they don't have that kind of money, specially considering they need midfielders.

BenBeckham

11-07-2006, 08:16:AM

Manchester didn't YET sign another GK - it's all paper talk so far, as the 300 players Madrid will appearently sign.

Can anyone confirm the following "snippets" from an interview with calderon ? - on radio, tv etc, so it's sure it's no papertalk.

Can't believe Calderon said something along "Nistelrooy will complement well with Ronaldo" so where gonna keep him :(

And that "Roberto Carlos said already to Mijatovic that he wants to leave, so Capello asked me for a replacement"

jani

11-07-2006, 08:17:AM

Abbiati..? Why?

jani

11-07-2006, 08:21:AM

Silencer

11-07-2006, 09:02:AM

Yes it seems that Ruud is on the top of their list, Calderon wants him and Ruud's manager told the media here that he started negotiations with Real Madrid so I guess it will be a matter of time now..

Andrejs

11-07-2006, 09:27:AM

According to the papers you want Ruud, Cristiano and Heinze, how about you take Fletcher and O'Shea while your at it?

Crusad3r

11-07-2006, 11:52:AM

According to the papers you want Ruud, Cristiano and Heinze, how about you take Fletcher and O'Shea while your at it?

Mijatovic confirmed Cristiano Ronaldo is not that important for Madrid.

About RVN, Capello want it, but he also want Toni, and Toni look closer right now.

About Heinze papers reports Madrid offered about 14-15€ form him.

Thats all :)

justhammy

11-07-2006, 11:57:AM

Hey guys, I just read that we offered 38 (!!!) mil for Franck Ribery! :| He is FANTASTIC i give you that, but 38 mil?! Thats WAY too much. 20 mil is the most I would give for him!

I read this in 'The Guardian'. It also said that arsenal wants him too, but they gave 14 mil for him. And we just went with 38...:|:|

BenBeckham

11-07-2006, 12:02:PM

Heinze ?! that would be bloody awesome - he's one of my fave players and I love his nononesense attitude. :)

Nistelrooy (Y) a clinical boxfinisher, good header, both footed and he craves for Becks Assists as does Becks for a receiver.

Ribery (Y) great player, but surely not for so much money.

BTW a friend of mine said the RM Shirts presentation should be tomorrow. Is that true ?

justhammy

11-07-2006, 12:07:PM

Crusad3r

11-07-2006, 12:15:PM

Andrejs

11-07-2006, 12:23:PM

Heinze ?! that would be bloody awesome

:|

datboy

11-07-2006, 12:25:PM

yup, Ben. the presentation of the new kits is tomorrow! :)

why the hell does Fabio want Abbiati?? we have Diego Lopéz.

Madrid are negotiating with Fiorentina over Luca Toni !!
he would cost 18 million euro and according to reports, Toni wants to join us!

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/669832.html

Heinze is good, but i would take Abidal if Zambrotta doesnt come. he really impressed me this World Cup.

yt23w

11-07-2006, 12:51:PM

Luca Toni was IMO the in form striker at the WC this year, better than anyone else. and also top scorer in Serie A last season, that aint no easy stroll in the park! at the EC he looked good with his feet, deadly in the air and always amongst the action. Far better, younger and (possibly?) cheaper than Ruud. He will go well with Bex's crosses aswell, maybe better than Ruud.

But will he play outside of Italy? most Italians like to stick to Serie A if they want to picked in the National Team. (see Cassano)

so Capz wants: Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Toni, Bigfoot, Dracula, Cesc and Kaka

theres your 6-7 (dunno if Bigfoot wants a move...)

what ever happen to Del Horno's interest?

justhammy

11-07-2006, 01:15:PM

The Guardian also said Bigfoot is living in Denmark, married with Dracula.
LMAO!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
But really, I didnt believe it....I just thought I should post it ;)

Silencer

11-07-2006, 02:15:PM

Van Nistelrooy is much better than Toni, clinical finisher, maybe Toni scored a lot in the serie A but at the WC he didn't impressed me. Ruud neither for that mather but he is a better striker for sure, look at the goals he made for MU in only two seasons :o but the is older than Toni I think.

justhammy

11-07-2006, 02:42:PM

Ruud is a great finisher, but as a player he is pretty normal. He isnt topclass. I dont say Toni is topclass, but Toni is a very hardworking striker who can score a lot of goals too. And the most important of this is that we would need Toni way more then Ruud. Why?! Because Toni is a target man. Ruud isnt. Ruud is like Ronaldo, only WAY slower, cant dribble, no technique, not as much talent. Now if Ronaldo could only work some more, but that will happen with Capello as coach. Toni isnt like Ronaldo at all. He is more a striker who is good in the box, can head very well, has a great shot. If we are gonna play with a target man(like PSV does with Vennegoor), then Toni is the man...If we are gonna play with 2 strikers then i would go for Ronaldo-Robinho/Cassano or even Soldado-Robinho/Cassano.

I dont say Ruud is bad, hell no...but he is more the same player as Ronaldo...and that wont be good. Look at Ronaldo-Adriano...that didnt work too, because they are the same kind of players.

BenBeckham

11-07-2006, 03:02:PM

Ruud is the perfect BOX striker. He scored all his goals exept 1 from inside the box.
He's got that predatory instict to be at the right place at the right time and contrary to the widespread belief that he can't dribble, it's wrong. He just doesn't do it the flashy way (stepovers etc), he squeesses his body between the ball and opponent, makes a quick turn and runs past them or simply outruns them. He can aswell shoot with both feet and is a fanastic header (Ronaldo definetly isnt!)

Despite ManUtd chaning their way of play since Becks left to Ruuds misfortune, despite being on the bench alot last season because of feuds with Ferguson/Queiroz and Ronaldo he was still their Topscorer (Ahead of an inform Rooney) and only narrowly beaten by an inform Henry in the Overall League Topscoring Charts.

So Ronaldo is definetly not like Nistelrooy.

Can't and won't say much about Toni, since I haven't seen him often.

Socrates

11-07-2006, 03:19:PM

Fernandez

11-07-2006, 03:22:PM

justhammy

11-07-2006, 03:56:PM

No we dont need Ruud. Im convinced of that. I know he is the perfect goalgetter, but im not too sure where he fits our line-up. If he comes then he or Ronaldo should be on the bench. 2 of the same strikers isnt good. Ronaldo also scores alot. And La Liga isnt like EPL. I saw Ruud play from the time he played at PSV and even before that. So im no fool that doesnt know where he is talkin about. Really if we get him then we should also play Beckham and then we will get that stupid play like England did in the WC.(I dont hate England, they are great!;)) Only long passes to Ruud. I know that when Ruud comes he will score. Im even sure of that. But will it work with Ronaldo?! Im not sure...

BenBeckham...I respect ur opinion...U have it good arguments for it. Its not that i think Ruud s*cks. He doesnt! But im not a big fan of Ruud, because I also know his other side.

R.9

11-07-2006, 04:44:PM

For me Van Nistelrooy is a great goals scorer but i don't think that Real Madrid need him and i think Ronaldo will stay in Madrid.

Jaouadinho

11-07-2006, 04:45:PM

Real Madrid should try and get Requilme instead of kaka because he more of a playmaker then kaka.
these are the players they should get this season.
Cannavaro
Zambrotta
Diarra
C. Ronaldo
Joaquin
Requilme
Chivu
Raul Garcia
Robben
These are the players from Real Madrid Castilla.
Balboa
Soldado
Jurado
De La Red
These are the players that should go out.
Roberto carlos
pavon
helguera
gravesen
diogo
grcia
raul because he needs to leave real madrid :rolleyes:
minambres
guti
cassano

Jaouadinho

11-07-2006, 04:52:PM

if real madrid want to buy ruud they might as well just get soldado hes even better .
soldado
:boohoo: free, younger, spanish, from the youth team and faster then ruud.

Jaouadinho

11-07-2006, 04:54:PM

yeah ur right. if ronaldo can just work that little bit harder in hes physic he will become the best player in the world again because he can still scor goals without really trying that hard u know so if he loses a bit of wiehgt imagen what he wil be like then ha. :jambo:

MaestroZidane

11-07-2006, 06:02:PM

I read it was 26m pounds they were offering for ribery...

Any update cassano?

RUSI

11-07-2006, 07:50:PM

Capello is taking 10players from Castilla to Irdning, Austria

They are Casilla, Codina, Arbeloa, Rubén, Borja De La Red, Balboa, Jurado, Soldado, and Juanfran Torres who just came back from a loan at Espanyol. He will also take all players not in the World Cup.

Preseason starts tomorrow in Madrid at La Ciudad Deportiva and soon we will go to Austria until August 5.

datboy

11-07-2006, 07:55:PM

Capello takes 7 Castilla players and Juanfran with him to Irdning training camp.
They are Casilla, Codina, Arbeloa, Rubén De La Red, Balboa, Jurado and Soldado.

im glad he gives the youngsters a chance! :rockman:

Jaouadinho

11-07-2006, 07:56:PM

Cassano is going to be a major hit next season because fabio capello is going to be the managerand he knows how to get th best out of him just like he did in roma. Real Madrid only tabled that amount for ribery so they can tell arsenal if u give us cesc we will back of ribery.

datboy

11-07-2006, 08:02:PM

yeah RUSI, pre-season starts tomorrow. but at Real Madrid City. not in Austria. :p

RUSI

11-07-2006, 08:04:PM

Is there an official preseason website like there was last year ?

RUSI

11-07-2006, 08:08:PM

yeah RUSI, pre-season starts tomorrow. but at Real Madrid City. not in Austria. :p

yeah I caught that at the last second and changed it :p (6)

The club needs to put out an official webvsite.

And I am glad Juanfran is going :hump:

datboy

11-07-2006, 08:10:PM

it hasnt come up yet. but it proably will tomorrow. :)

SlowSilver

11-07-2006, 08:10:PM

Yes! Finally, some youth has been promoted. About damn time. :)

Can't wait to see the effect Capello has on Cassano.

Nuno

11-07-2006, 08:12:PM

Hold your horses. He's just bringing them along for preseason training. He still hasn't decided whom (if anyone) will be promoted.

SlowSilver

11-07-2006, 08:14:PM

Well of course, not all of them will make it, I'm just happy that they're getting a chance.

Nuno

11-07-2006, 08:32:PM

De la Red seems most likely to get promoted. If we buy a new striker, I doubt Soldado will stay.

faceNside

11-07-2006, 09:13:PM

Hey guys, I've been out some days on vacations in London. Had a really good time (Y)

Glad to see we're targeting Cannavaro and Zambrotta, Cicinho-Ramos-Cannavaro-Zambrotta would be hell of a defense.

Also glad to see that many canteranos travelling with the 1st team in preseason... but wtf, Ruben, Borja???

Can't wait to tomorrow's jersey presentation :)

mega montana

11-07-2006, 09:24:PM

Houllier says Diarra will stay with Lyon (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=402407&CPID=24&clid=186&lid=&title=Houllier:+Diarra+'wants+to+stay')

Celta really want soldado (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=402326&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=&title=Celta+lead+Soldado+loan+chase)

bad news in both links :nape:

calling up these young guys means nothing, they will just be training. If they do well, they will play in the first team

edit: anyone know what happened to raikkonen? He hasnt posted in forever

faceNside

11-07-2006, 09:52:PM

Socrates

11-07-2006, 10:05:PM

After reading some previous posts, I want to comment I thonk we're not going after Gago cause he's non EU citizen, so we 'd have no room for him.

I also prefer Toni, one of my favourite strikers in this WC (not for the goals, but the way he plays for his teammates), it'd be great to catch him.

Yea I already posted that about Gago ( also because of Capello ) and I agree about Toni. Speaking of non eu spots, is Baptista applying to get his citizenship or what? I think I heard he was but I am not sure about it.

datboy

11-07-2006, 10:14:PM

Houllier says Diarra will stay with Lyon (http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=402407&CPID=24&clid=186&lid=&title=Houllier:+Diarra+'wants+to+stay')

this has to be bullsh!t. :rolleyes: i still think he will come. :)

BenBeckham

11-07-2006, 10:15:PM

Cna somebody quickly sum up again that Non-EU Citizen law ?

How many Non EU Players are aloud in the XI, Team ? If I don't count wrong its 4 at Madrid (Ronaldo, R.Carlos, Baptista, Robinho)

faceNside

11-07-2006, 10:17:PM

How many Non EU Players are aloud in the XI, Team ? If I don't count wrong its 4 at Madrid (Ronaldo, R.Carlos, Baptista, Robinho)Max 3 non EU players in the squad. We already have Robinho, Cicinho and Baptista if I'm not wrong.

Socrates

11-07-2006, 10:19:PM

Max 3 non EU players in the squad. We already have Robinho, Cicinho and Baptista if I'm not wrong.

Cicinho? I thought he had the Italian grandfather clause or whatnot?

I thought it was just Baptista and Robinho?

Crusad3r

11-07-2006, 10:21:PM

Robinho, Baptista and Roberto Carlos i believe.

Cicinho have italian passport.

datboy

11-07-2006, 10:24:PM

doesn´t RC have a spanish passport?

Socrates

11-07-2006, 10:25:PM

Robinho, Baptista and Roberto Carlos i believe.

Cicinho have italian passport.

RC? I thought he got his citizenship/passport this past year?

Yea thats what I meant about Cicinho.

BenBeckham

11-07-2006, 10:29:PM

thanks everbody. so it's Robinho, Ronaldo and Baptista taking up the 3 spots atm.

R.9

11-07-2006, 10:37:PM

doesn´t RC have a spanish passport?
Yes he has a spanish passport now.

MaestroZidane

11-07-2006, 11:02:PM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373717&cc=5901

If this is true then i hope it happens soon, cannavarro would be a great addition :lui:

I know everyone kept mentioning this so it may be just an update...

Crusad3r

11-07-2006, 11:10:PM

It seems there will be some bad news:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=321502&idseccio_PK=805&h=

Sport (Barça paper propaganda) is telling Cesc will sign a new contract with Arsenal :\

Diarra not moving from Lyon:

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/670167.html

:kader: :kader: :kader: :kader:

mega montana

11-07-2006, 11:29:PM

i actually think it might just be robinho taking up the non-eu spot

ronaldo and roberto carlos recently obtained spanish citizenship, not sure about baptista, but i am pretty sure he did as well

cicinho has some italian roots so he doesnt count

edit: what's the backup plan for diarra? Emerson will not be enough by himself

this is $hit news :kader:

Socrates

12-07-2006, 12:46:AM

edit: what's the backup plan for diarra? Emerson will not be enough by himself

Thtas fine there are other players to look at, its not like Diarra is the only person that plays that position on the field.

About Cesc, somehow I am not that suprised. First Kaka singed a new contract now Cesc will, so much for Calderon's promise's eh? I am happy with Kaka/Cesc not coming as we would have spent all our money right there and also because Kaka was not needed. No need to worry just need to look at our other options, its not like there no other players out there to look at.

jani

12-07-2006, 04:16:AM

Calderon is spending £26m for Ribery to cover up for his lies/failures. Wayy too much but could turn out to be super.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 04:29:AM

edit: anyone know what happened to raikkonen? He hasnt posted in forever

I talked to him through email a while back. He told me that he was really busy with his new job, but he wished everyone well.

Also, I do not think Ronaldo has a Spanish passport, but I know for a fact that Robinho and Baptista are non-eu.

Cicinho has an Italian passport and Roberto Carlos has a Spanish one.

It will be devastating if we cannot get Diarra, we need a DM more than a CM like Cesc or Gago, and I don't want it to be Emerson.

if we cant get Diarra, we have to make a move for MAscherano.

jani

12-07-2006, 04:45:AM

No-one has been linked with Mascherano lately, heh? I think its gonna be hard prising away players from Corhintians. It actually does show money plays a big part in terms of attractiveness.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 05:02:AM

I don't think it is as much Mascherano not wanting to leave as Corinthians wanting him to stay.

He and Tevez need to get out of Brasil(not that there is anything wrongI just want to see them in Europe.)

SlowSilver

12-07-2006, 08:02:AM

Well, they should get out of Brasil, if they want a real challenge (and that's no disrespect to the leagues over there) then they should come to Europe. I'm sure both of them would be hits.

Jannes

12-07-2006, 08:39:AM

He and Tevez need to get out of Brasil(not that there is anything wrongI just want to see them in Europe.)

Yep. They will never be very big Stars when they play in Brasil...

PaPaGeorGeo

12-07-2006, 10:43:AM

I thought Baptista would get his spainish Citizenship if he stayed in Spain for one year, hence him moving abroad to eg Arsenal? so why wouldnt he have it now?

datboy

12-07-2006, 12:03:PM

it seems were going after Gago now. Finally! :rockman:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=321430&idseccio_PK=805&h=

things aren´t looking good for Senor Calderón.

- Cesc said he wanted to stay at Arsenal and will sign a new contract. Wenger also said minutes ago that he will not listen to offers for Cesc.

- Kaka renewed his contract and Milan will not listen to offers.

- Robben have rejected any offfer and wants to stay with Chelsea.

:nape:

and what if Juve doesn´t get relegated??

who will we go after then? im starting to get worried.

justhammy

12-07-2006, 12:31:PM

it seems were going after Gago now. Finally! :rockman:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=321430&idseccio_PK=805&h=
YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! FINALLYYYY!!! This is one of the best news in a long time!!! :rockman: :rockman:

Btw guys, only Robinho and Baptista take a non-eu spot. Ronaldo and RC already have one!!

datboy

12-07-2006, 12:58:PM

the new kit was presented at 12pm today.

http://www.marca.com/06/07/12/camiseta_realmadrid/01.jpg
http://www.marca.com/06/07/12/camiseta_realmadrid/02.jpg

http://www.marca.com/06/07/12/camiseta_realmadrid/03.jpg

i think it looks great !! :)

some pics from the 1st training session. (doesnt Cassano look much thinner?)

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288xcontrolbalonp.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288xcassanoybaptistap.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288xentrenogutip.jpg

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288xwoodgateydelaredp.jpg
WOODY !! :lui:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288xgrupocorriendop.jpg

BenBeckham

12-07-2006, 01:03:PM

wow ugly a blue printing on the white shirt :|

the font looks OK (Y)
So I'll get me the Black One.

Well hopefully Woody finally stays healthy, because he is a damn good CB.

yt23w

12-07-2006, 01:05:PM

who actually believed that Cesc + Robben + Kaka would be in Madrid for next season? anyone....ok,ok maybe one or two but all three? not a chance in hell....btw hadnt Kaka already signed a new contract with Milan before the elections....anyways....

Gago news is good news. even tho i cant read spanish it still looks like good news....

yeah, thats what i was wondering! if Juve dont go down (somehow beyond all reasonable doubt....) what happens then to the shopping list of Calderons?

no Kaka, Robben, Cesc, Zambrotta, Canavarro, Emerson (ect).... oh boy....

justhammy

12-07-2006, 01:06:PM

The new kit is amazing!! Those numbers are great...especially that of Raul :D
I also think its great news that Robben decided to stay at Chelsea...We should give a party for that!!! :rockman: :rockman:
Cesc can stay if he wants, but we should get Gago instead. And Kaka would cost too much! I really think that Socrates was always right about this...Kaka is one of the best out there, but not needed and too expensive. He is an ACM. We have Baptista, Cassano and even Robinho who can play there. Im happy with those 3 players. Robinho is even better IMO and Cassano inform is unstoppable!! Baptista proved why he is so class. So kaka can stay if he wants. And Ribery will be bought if Kaka wouldnt come. So we will also have a Right Midfielder, who can send Becks to the bench ;) So there is nothing to worry about, Capello will get everything back! :rockman: :rockman:

PaPaGeorGeo

12-07-2006, 02:42:PM

oh all your presidents promises arent coming true, cant say i told you so can i.

anyway i hope we face you guys again once we qualify for the CL, very entertaining games.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 02:54:PM

I do not think it is time to panic guys. There is plenty of time.

I have no doubts that we will get players we need now with a new president, board, and of course coach.

I'd love to get Gago :lui: More than Cesc so we can have at least one Argentine (6)

Edit: Great to see Woody training, hopefully he lasts a while too :fool:

Nuno

12-07-2006, 02:58:PM

I'm still confident we'll get some players from Juve. The chances of them not being relegated are extremely thin. I feel bad for them, but I can't complain about the players we'll get.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 02:59:PM

Also glad to see that many canteranos travelling with the 1st team in preseason... but wtf, Ruben, Borja???

I just looked at realmadrid.com and they are there too, I do't know why Marca didn't have them?

Socrates

12-07-2006, 03:05:PM

I thought Baptista would get his spainish Citizenship if he stayed in Spain for one year, hence him moving abroad to eg Arsenal? so why wouldnt he have it now?

I believe that he will have it at the start of this year.

Good to hear about Gago, I think I read the price for him would be 10 million euros. Nice to see Woody back in traning(Y).

RUSI

12-07-2006, 03:16:PM

I like this years font better than last years. Does anyone have a big picture of the fonts to put on the first post?

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/BA802071208_1024x768.jpg

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/BA809071209_1024x768.jpg

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/BA808071209_1024x768.jpg

Nuno

12-07-2006, 03:23:PM

Awesome pics RUSI. Looks like Cassano is in great shape. I'm really hoping that Capello brings out the best in him. Also this wait for a new signing is killing me. I'm checking Marca and AS every couple of hours for any type of update. :|

jani

12-07-2006, 03:23:PM

sportsline up again? remind me how to use it again :$

RUSI

12-07-2006, 03:28:PM

go here -http://www.sportsline.com/soccer/photos/

choose a picture

right-click properties and go to url/address

in the url change where it says 'lower' to 1024x768 and viola

faceNside

12-07-2006, 03:35:PM

Great to see Cassano fit and, most of all, Woody training :)

This year font is hideous imo, it looks like a 3rd division amateur kit one. Last year's was way much cooler. I also dislike the shorts design. On the other hand the yellow collar in the training jersey is great.

jani

12-07-2006, 03:35:PM

now delete that so no one else knows :D

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 04:37:PM

is it just me or is jurado better then messi i think so if real let him go they will regret it. messi is ok now but in a couple of years he will crumble.

Silencer

12-07-2006, 05:07:PM

Better then Messi :rolleyes: you must be joking :nape:

MaestroZidane

12-07-2006, 05:07:PM

Great to sees everyone back in training, cassano has really lost weight. Can't wait for the season to begin.. :lui:

RUSI

12-07-2006, 05:42:PM

is it just me or is jurado better then messi i think so if real let him go they will regret it. messi is ok now but in a couple of years he will crumble.

I think it is just you.

I love Jurado, and I think he is a great talent, but Messi is in a class of his own.

I am Madridista through and through, but Leo has some talents that the world hasn't seen since Diego Armando Maradona.

Jurado must be on the first team, and of our first subs off of the bench.

Socrates

12-07-2006, 05:56:PM

justhammy

12-07-2006, 05:59:PM

I think it is just you.

I love Jurado, and I think he is a great talent, but Messi is in a class of his own.

I am Madridista through and through, but Leo has some talents that the world hasn't seen since Diego Armando Maradona.

Jurado must be on the first team, and of our first subs off of the bench.
Jurado and Messi...you cant compare both because Messi has played for the 1st team alot. Jurado didnt. And Messi is better atm. He is class. BUT some of the talents the world havent seen since El Diego?! Dont let me laugh man! Think about it before you put that here. ;)

mega montana

12-07-2006, 06:01:PM

nice pics rusi

what's up with all that bling that cassano is wearing? I'd hate to get that all sweaty from training!

great, great news about gago, i hope we can get him :rockman:

panxoman

12-07-2006, 06:16:PM

the new kit was presented at 12pm today.

http://www.marca.com/06/07/12/camiseta_realmadrid/03.jpg

That chick in the middle of the group is a good signing.

Wouldn't mind to have her in my HOME team and take that madrid kit off

Best's_cadaver

12-07-2006, 06:24:PM

That chick in the middle of the group is a good signing.

Wouldn't mind to have her in my HOME team and take that madrid kit off
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
And i bet you wound mind takling her from BEHIND. :rolf:

RUSI

12-07-2006, 07:17:PM

BUT some of the talents the world havent seen since El Diego?! Dont let me laugh man! Think about it before you put that here. ;)

Who are you to tell me what to and what not to post?

It is the truth, I haven't seen anyone with such control of the ball when on the run since Diego. Just my opinion, I don't care what you think of it.

SlowSilver

12-07-2006, 07:27:PM

Well, our kit is awful :(

I am concerned about the lack of signings, but I'm sure we'll get someone in with proven class..

ronnifan9

12-07-2006, 07:39:PM

The purple kit is just awful.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060712/capt.f3e7b329859c43b2a05764680c31d4a0.spain_soccer _ba812.jpg

I wonder how many of these types of photos we'll see this offseason...with a player in between them holding the new jersey of course.

SlowSilver

12-07-2006, 08:16:PM

The font is brilliant (Y) I still hate the kit though... :(

Nuno

12-07-2006, 08:20:PM

I like the black version best. Maybe the home kit will grow on us during the course of the season. The model they chose was a bit on the chunky side, so that didn't help.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 08:23:PM

I don't think they are that bad.

I like the font a lot better, I wish he had better pictures like the ones from last year.

faceNside

12-07-2006, 09:06:PM

Why the font is blue and not just black?

Black + Grey + Blue + Purple = :-puke: (and I don't use this smilie very often cause personally I find it quite disgusting lol)

WilliamFAlmeida

12-07-2006, 09:15:PM

this kit is the worse one I've seen since the "teka" days....SO tacky! I'll agree with face on this, why the purple logo, black stripes, gray waves, and blue letters on the back?? ew....

PSVFOREVER

12-07-2006, 09:33:PM

God, you have the worst kits next season IMO. While old recent Real Madrid kits had a certain class over them, this one looks so standard, the grey lines make it look bad.

mega montana

12-07-2006, 09:40:PM

the uniforms are ok

i wish we would bring back those away kits from a few years ago, all black with gold stripes, those were class :rockman:

justhammy

12-07-2006, 09:45:PM

Who are you to tell me what to and what not to post?

It is the truth, I haven't seen anyone with such control of the ball when on the run since Diego. Just my opinion, I don't care what you think of it.
It didnt mean to offend you man, just relax. I respect your opinion, I was just joking around there. And ok, you didnt see someone wich such controle on the run....well i did, Ronaldo when he was young, Stoitsjkov, Romario...those are some. Dont feel offended for something small...take it easy ;)

BenBeckham

12-07-2006, 09:47:PM

yeah they really were class.

Anyway Black/Gold or White/Gold make fantastic kits anyway.

Actually the kit I like the most is the Black Training Shirt (The wore earlier today) - too bad is has Sponsors on the back aswell and not that 20K Logo.

I prefer that Training Shirt colorway above the Away Shirt (which IMO is the 2nd best)
The White One is just ugly and looks to crowded, the 3 one is ok but I don't like purple.

RUSI

12-07-2006, 09:49:PM

It didnt mean to offend you man, just relax. I respect your opinion, I was just joking around there. And ok, you didnt see someone wich such controle on the run....well i did, Ronaldo when he was young, Stoitsjkov, Romario...those are some. Dont feel offended for something small...take it easy ;)

:)(Y)

sorry to get so riled up

I want to get the training shirt.

Nuno

12-07-2006, 09:52:PM

I want us to sign a new player. Grrr the wait is killing me. It's bad enough that we had to start so late because of the elections. I hope Cannavaro and Zambrotta are the first ones we sign.

justhammy

12-07-2006, 09:53:PM

:)(Y)

sorry to get so riled up

I want to get the training shirt.
No problem man ;)

I actually think the black shirt is the best. The shirt dont look that bad IMO..that Logo makes up for everything ;)

Socrates

12-07-2006, 09:58:PM

Yea...I dont like the kits either.

Here is another pic.
http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b83446288tresequipacionesp.jpg

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 10:14:PM

how come beckhams name is their twice why not robinho or someone else. :nape:

faceNside

12-07-2006, 10:19:PM

how come beckhams name is their twice why not robinho or someone else. :nape:It's easy. We only have 2 Adidas sponsored players in the squad at the moment. so they have to repeat 1 of them, and Becks is the most influential. If Zizou hadn't retired it would have been Raul, Beckham, Zidane :)

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 10:22:PM

yeah u right thanx for that. :jambo:

Shortstraw

12-07-2006, 10:24:PM

Hopefully this will be a good season for Real, when they play well it's good for football and when they are on form it's great entertainment. If only zizou stayed on :nape:.

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 10:25:PM

but what if there wasnt any adidas sponsord players? :jambo:

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 10:28:PM

no couse zizou would become one of those players that would give u one good game and then he would disapear for a couple of weeks, and real madrid at this moment, since they havent won anything in 3 years cant afford to take that risk.

Socrates

12-07-2006, 10:37:PM

how come beckhams name is their twice why not robinho or someone else. :nape:

Does it really matter that much? :confused:

datboy

12-07-2006, 10:40:PM

Welcome jaouadinho :ewan:

i must say im hoping we can get Ribery. seeing him run up and down that wing for France really impressed me. i think hes exactly what we need. a player that makes multiple runs and create space for others.

and seeing how Lyon want Ribery. maybe this Houllier: Diarra wants to stay is a way of saying "leave Ribery to us or you wont get Diarra"
the report cam the same day as it was reported that we outbid Arsenal for Ribery.
just a thought. what you think?

faceNside

12-07-2006, 10:41:PM

Does it really matter that much? :confused:C'mon it's preseason! Time to speak about irrelevant issues :Dand seeing how Lyon want Ribery. maybe this Houllier: Diarra wants to stay is a way of saying "leave Ribery to us or you wont get Diarra"
the report cam the same day as it was reported that we outbid Arsenal for Ribery.
just a thought. what you think?I think Lyon won't be a selling club this season.. If they bet for rising stars like Ribery is unlikely they are willing to unbalance their system selling one of their key players.

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 11:04:PM

Jaouadinho

12-07-2006, 11:11:PM

mega montana

12-07-2006, 11:28:PM

It's easy. We only have 2 Adidas sponsored players in the squad at the moment. so they have to repeat 1 of them, and Becks is the most influential. If Zizou hadn't retired it would have been Raul, Beckham, Zidane :)
good point, i never noticed that last year...raul, becks and zidane were the ones to present last season's kits

at least we are back to a normal font for player's names this year

MaestroZidane

12-07-2006, 11:48:PM

:nape: doesn't seem that ManU is going to let go of C. Ronaldo nor does ronaldo seem to want to leave ManU, So seem he is out of the question. :rolleyes:

Ribery is great but he also won' leave and if he does it looks like he wants to go to arsenal :nape:

newbie original

12-07-2006, 11:54:PM

You guys should go for Mmmmmmmmaxi Rodriiiiiiiiiiguez!

datboy

13-07-2006, 12:01:AM

i read on another forum that we will be playing in Trofeo Ramón de Carranza around 18-19 August. We will be entering the tournament at the expense of INTER. Cádiz and Betis are already invited. The last club is supposedly from South America.

can anyone confirm this?

RUSI

13-07-2006, 12:03:AM

I read it somewhere too, i'll try to find the source

R.9

13-07-2006, 12:30:AM

The new kits are ok but i don't like the shirt and sock but i am sure i gonna get use to them during the season.

RUSI

13-07-2006, 02:16:AM

Real Madrid knows Roberto Carlos wants to leave. (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/club/conoce/Roberto/Carlos/quiere/irse/dasftb/20060713dasdaiftb_1/Tes/)

Beckham looks like he will sign til 2009 (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/quiere/atar/Beckham/2009/dasftb/20060713dasdaiftb_4/Tes/) :(

I guess we'll play

-----------------Casillas
RB---------Ramos----------CB-----------LB
-----------DM----------DM/CM
----Beckham----CM
------------------------Robinho
----------------Ronaldo

pullstones_jr

13-07-2006, 03:38:AM

I kinda like the whit kit (is that bad lol?)

jani

13-07-2006, 04:33:AM

who is this Jurado guy? how come you guys rate him so highly? what has he done?

PaPaGeorGeo

13-07-2006, 05:39:AM

-----------------Casillas
RB---------Ramos----------CB-----------LB
-----------DM----------DM/CM
----Beckham----CM
------------------------Robinho
----------------Ronaldo

Best line up ive seen in this thread for a while.

Why so defensive? and no width? wouldnt Cicinho play at RB?

shrekiejai

13-07-2006, 05:43:AM

Beckham looks like he will sign til 2009 (http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Madrid/quiere/atar/Beckham/2009/dasftb/20060713dasdaiftb_4/Tes/) :(

I thought Beckham was good for you guys?
Been reading that he's been one of the leading performers for you guys last season...

RUSI

13-07-2006, 06:07:AM

Best line up ive seen in this thread for a while.

Why so defensive? and no width? wouldnt Cicinho play at RB?

True, I don't know why I didn't put Cicinho in there. Defensive because we now have Capello.
Beckham IMO kills our tactics. We will depend on our full-backs for width. I would much rather get C. Ronaldo or Joaquin and play a variation of a 4-3-3, but Becks kills us.

Here is my predictions -

-----------------Casillas
Cicinho-----Ramos-----Cannavaro-----Zambrotta
-----------DM----------Gago
---Beckham
--------Raul/Cassano/CAM-------Robinho
----------------Ronaldo

At DM, either Emerson or Diarra or possibly play Emerson and Diarra instead of a CM like Gago or Cesc, which I would hate

Those are my pessimistic predictions

I thought Beckham was good for you guys?
Been reading that he's been one of the leading performers for you guys last season...
He's decent, he plays his heart out, but like I said, kills our tactics. I think he is suited much better in the EPL.

TheBlueBalla

13-07-2006, 06:20:AM

its too bad beckham cant defend. Given his lack of pace and excellent crossing, he would be a great offensive wing back

sharkman

13-07-2006, 10:24:AM

i still hope that roberto carlos stays,

I think we should buy Aimar.. he could replace zidane, and he is cheap as **** @the moment... and a good DMF...

Jaouadinho

13-07-2006, 11:03:AM

i still hope that roberto carlos stays,

I think we should buy Aimar.. he could replace zidane, and he is cheap as **** @the moment... and a good DMF...
:jambo: No we should get aimar yeah but only as a subitute for Requilme or Kaka if they come. but i wouldnt have him as a starter he noot good enough.