FC Bayern München 2006/07


Founded: 1900
Owner/Major Shareholder: adidas-Salomon AG
Chief Executive: Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (Chairman, Executive Board)
Club President: Franz Beckenbauer (Chairman, Supervisory Board)
Main Sponsor/Uniform Sponsor: Deutsche Telekom's T-Com/Adidas

Team Value: $838 mil (€655 mil / £453 mil)
Revenue: $262 mil (€205 mil / £142 mil)
Income: $62 mil (€49 mil / £34 mil)
Debt: 0

Stadium: Allianz Arena
Capacity: 69,000
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History:

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The first 100 years of Bayern Munich's history - and its success story - begin and end with the name Franz. Is it just a coincidence that the leader of the eleven spirited rebels who met to form FC Bayern in the Gisela Restaurant in Munich on the night of 27th February 1900, was a certain Franz John? Or that it was a Franz who masterminded the split from MTV 1879, the original club, which had suppressed every attempt by the footballers at independence? Is it only chance that exactly a century later, another Franz, this time Beckenbauer, would lead Bayern Munich, now an experienced and visionary club with countless titles to its name, into the new millennium as its president?

Much time and many other differences separate now from then. Franz John co-founded and built Bayern up from nothing and was delighted with relatively modest results, like Bayern's 7-1 victory in their first match against their former team, MTV 1879. But John also gave this 'cavalier' club its first individual touch.

In the early days, people recognised Bayern, then known as Schwabinger Bayern, by the players' straw hats. In his turn, Franz Beckenbauer would help make Bayern Munich what it is today: an international club with millions of fans, an institution reaching way beyond German football.

Not in his wildest dreams could Franz John have imagined that future, or that his team would one day be German champions, European Cup Champions and even World Club Championship winners. Nor could he have imagined that nearly a century later, on a mild spring day in 1999, Beckenbauer would meet the world's leading heads of state, and no less than the British prime minister, Tony Blair, would whisper to him that he was the most famous person there.

Clearly something incredible happened in the 100 years between Franz and Franz.

Bayern opened the new millennium in spectacular fashion, claiming the Champions League, the domestic championship, the World Club Cup and the German Cup in quick succession.

Bayern ended the old millennium on a low note with the devastating defeat to Manchester United in the 1999 Champions League final, but the team built around Oliver Kahn, Stefan Effenberg and Giovane Elber swiftly set about making amends in the new century.

Long-standing rivals Real Madrid felt the effects of Bayern's determination early in the year 2000 as the Reds put no less than eight goals past the Spanish giants in the space of eight days, winning 4-2 at the Bernabeu and 4-1 at home. The sides met again in the semi-finals, but this time Real took revenge, winning the tie with a 2-0 success at home and a crucial away goal in Munich's 2-1 win at the Olympic Stadium.

Ottmar Hitzfeld's men still collected silverware that season, entering the last week of the Bundesliga campaign neck-and-neck with Bayer Leverkusen. The Rhineland outfit fell to a shock defeat against relegated Unterhaching, allowing Bayern to pip them to the title. A week later, the Reds took revenge for the previous year's German Cup final defeat to Werder Bremen with a 3-0 win against the same opponents in the Berlin showpiece, sealing the third league and cup double in the club's history. Oliver Kahn was named German Player of the Year 1999-2000.

There was even better to come in 2000-2001. The omens were not good after an early German Cup exit to unfancied Magdeburg, but after 34 Bundesliga matches, Bayern again finished top of the standings. And again the glory was earned in dramatic fashion as Patrik Andersson blasted a stoppage-time equaliser in Hamburg with almost the last kick of the last match, snatching the title from rivals Schalke 04, whose game had already finished. The Schalke fans had celebrated - for just four minutes.

Brimming with confidence after the knife-edge finale, the Reds travelled to Milan on 23 May 2001 for the Champions League final against Valencia. Bayern had been on a European revenge mission all season, knocking out Manchester United in the quarter-finals and then seeing off Madrid with a 1-0 away win and a 2-1 success at home. Olli Kahn was the hero of that unforgettable night in Milan, saving three penalties in the shoot-out after the match had finished 1-1 after extra time to seal Munich's fourth European Champions Cup title, a quarter of a century after a the previous success.

Honors:

European Trophies:
4 European Champions Cups: 1973-74, 1974-75, 1975-76, 2000-01,
1 UEFA Cup: 1996;
1 European Cup Winners Cup: 1967;
2 Intercontinental Cups: 1976, 2001

Domestic Championships:
20: 1932, 1968-69, 1971-72, 1972-73, 1973-74, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1984-85, 1985-86, 1986-87, 1988-89, 1989-90, 1993-94, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2004-05, 2005-06

Domestic Cups:
13 German Cups: 1957, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006




Transfers In
Mark van Bommel (Barcelona) €6M
Lukas Podolski (Cologne) €11M
Daniel van Buyten (Hamburg) €10M
Christian Lell (Cologne) back from loan
Stephan Fürstner (own amateurs)

Transfers Out
Michael Ballack - Chelsea, free transfer
Ze Roberto - unknown, free transfer
Bixente Lizarazu - retiring
Jens Jeremies - retiring
Jose Paolo Guerrero - Hamburg, €2,5M


Squad:

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Head Coach
Ottmar Hitzfeld

Goalkeepers
1 - Oliver Kahn
22 - Michael Rensing

Defenders
2 - Willy Sagnol
3 - Lucio
5 - Daniel van Buyten
18 - Andreas Görlitz
21 - Philipp Lahm
25 - Valerien Ismael
30 - Christian lell


Midfielders
6 - Martin Demichelis
7 - Mehmet Scholl
8 - Ali Karimi
17 - Mark van Bommel
19 - Julio Dos Santos
20 - Hasan Salihamidzic
23 - Owen Hargreaves
31 - Bastian Schweinsteiger
36 - Stephan Fürstner
39 - Andreas Ottl


Forwards
10 - Roy Makaay
11 - Lukas Podolski
14 - Claudio Pizarro
24 - Roque Santa Cruz

Beautiful Vince :rockman:

my upcoming season projected lineup.

---------------------- Kahn ---------------------

Sagnol --------- Lucio ----- Van Buyten/Ismael (only when Bayern play weaker teams LOL :p) ------- Lahm

---------- Demichelis --------- Hargreaves/Ottl?? ---------

------------------ Schweinsteiger/Diesler ----------------

--------------------------------- <=Podolski/Schweinsteiger ----

-------------- Makaay/Podolski ------- Pizarro/Roque Santa Cruz -------



I Hope to see more of Dos Santos and Ali Karimi this upcoming season.

Should be a fun season, and this is a very exciting time to be a Bayern fan. We have a lot of youth, but also still a good mix of experience. As usual I expect nothing less than the Bundesliga and hopefully a Semi-Finals appearance in the Champions League.

I expect the Bundesliga title and that we make it to the top eight in the CL, semis if Juve and Milan will be banned.

The official aim this year is to play more attractive football, even the league title is not a necessity.

The off-season is far from over, I feel we need to add at least one experienced midfielder that will perform eight from the beginning of the season. Scholl and Deisler are too inury prone, Schweini is too inconsistent, Karimi is not good enough and dos Santos well, he could turn out to a bust or be that missing piece.
We gotta wait what happens in Italy. Some interesting players will become available.

Mauro Camoranesi :shades:

bild says that bayern maybe have a chanche to get luca toni.
and pizzaro maybe to hamburg, saw both on transfermarkt.de

Luca Toni wouldn't come here, would cost way too much, is quite old and he failed to impress me during the WC.

Gazzetta dello Sport names Camoranesi and Gattuso as Bayern's targets if Milan and Juve don't stay in Serie A.

Gattuso :|
would be great for the bundesliga.

Today i heard that Bayern is having Contacts to Toni and Pirlo. But i still hope, that van Nistelrooy will sign with us


Makaay-----------------van Nistelrooy


-------------------------Podolski---------------------------


Schweinsteiger-----------------------------------Hargreaves


------------------------Demichelis----------------------------


Lahm----------------------------------------------Sagnol


------------------Lucio----------van Buyten--------------



-------------------------- Kahn-----------------------------

Podolski will go nuts this season, y'all shall see :alex: :gavin:

Pirlo will be a fantastic signing if he comes to Bayern :)

IMO Makaay and van Nistelrooy playing together doesn't seem to work from what I hear.

i think RVN and Makaay are too alike so they wont work out imo

It sucks that Pizarro isn't wanted anymore by the Bayern fans here. I still feel he can get better. If anyone has to leave its Makaay that's if RVN :p really comes to Bayern.

Pizarro is a great player, and i hope he go to a club which i like.
but he like it more to buy d&g clothes and hair gel. (:/)

It sucks that Pizarro isn't wanted anymore by the Bayern fans here. I still feel he can get better. If anyone has to leave its Makaay that's if RVD really comes to Bayern.
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?? Sorry. :(

We won a friendly, even Rensing scored. Pizarro picked up a minor injury so he had to be substituted.

TSV 02 Berching - FC Bayern 0:12 (0:7)

FC Bayern: Dreher (46. Kraft) – Lell, Van Buyten, Hummels (54. Rensing), Krause - Fürstner, Scholl (46. Schwarz), Ottl, Salihamidzic – Makaay, Pizarro (46. Maierhofer)

Goals: 1:0 van Buyten (9.), 2:0 Fürstner (10.), 3:0 Pizarro (23.), 4:0 Salihamidzic (26.), 5:0 Pizarro (29.), 6:0 Makaay (31.), 7:0 Fürstner (42.), 8:0 Maierhofer (46.), 9:0 Ottl (48.), 10:0 Maierhofer (62.), 11:0 Rensing (75.), Schwarz (79.)


Next matches:
Do., 13.07. 18.30 Uhr at FV Donaueschingen
Sa., 15.07. 18.00 Uhr at Racing Straßburg

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?? Sorry. :(

We won a friendly, even Rensing scored. Pizarro picked up a minor injury so he had to be substituted.

TSV 02 Berching - FC Bayern 0:12 (0:7)

FC Bayern: Dreher (46. Kraft) – Lell, Van Buyten, Hummels (54. Rensing), Krause - Fürstner, Scholl (46. Schwarz), Ottl, Salihamidzic – Makaay, Pizarro (46. Maierhofer)

Goals: 1:0 van Buyten (9.), 2:0 Fürstner (10.), 3:0 Pizarro (23.), 4:0 Salihamidzic (26.), 5:0 Pizarro (29.), 6:0 Makaay (31.), 7:0 Fürstner (42.), 8:0 Maierhofer (46.), 9:0 Ottl (48.), 10:0 Maierhofer (62.), 11:0 Rensing (75.), Schwarz (79.)


Next matches:
Do., 13.07. 18.30 Uhr at FV Donaueschingen
Sa., 15.07. 18.00 Uhr at Racing Straßburg



HAHA!! (H) I knew you get me with that :( I ment to say RvN

Wow maybe the club should have postponed the first friendlies a week or two until until more players have arrived. Rensing as a field player :funny:

I like Pizarro but in the end it's only the goals that count and in the past three seasons he never scored more than eleven in the league although he got plenty of playing time. So if a club like Hamburg offers 10 million I wouldn't mind selling him.

Wow maybe the club should have postponed the first friendlies a week or two until until more players have arrived. Rensing as a field player :funny:

I like Pizarro but in the end it's only the goals that count and in the past three seasons he never scored more than eleven in the league although he got plenty of playing time. So if a club like Hamburg offers 10 million I wouldn't mind selling him.

Of course Whatever is best for the club. What's this rumor I hear that Magath is gonna bring back Guerrero back in the future? How is Ottl progressing so far? I feel he would do great in the first team and get some starts now that Ballack and Ze Roberto are gone.

Spaniards are saying Fabio Capello wants RvN for Real Madrid too, and that they are willing to pay up to 15 million euros for him.

They also said that Bayern offered 18 million euros for RvN.

So in the end, RvN will have to decide where to go.

Rummenigge said Ruud wants to come to Bayern and they will try everything to make it happen.

Of course Whatever is best for the club. What's this rumor I hear that Magath is gonna bring back Guerrero back in the future?
I haven't heard anything about that but If he develops into a worldclass striker why not. Would be a typical Bayern move, let your promising young players go for cheap and overpay on them a few years later.

How is Ottl progressing so far? I feel he would do great in the first team and get some starts now that Ballack and Ze Roberto are gone.
I can't see him getting any playing time this season. Demichelis and Hargreaves are gonna fight it out for the dm role with one being a reserve, Lell will back-up both full back positions and Ismael is the third cb. (:/)

Hurry up and sign Ruud so we can get Torres :(

Hurry up and sign Ruud so we can get Torres :(



Why do you want a overrated player? He isn't that good. If Man Utd do get him DON'T OVER PAY his ass. :p

Let them overpay and since you there don't overspend for RVN. Talking about above mediocre players made famous only couse of their hairstyle. Him and C. Ronaldo will fit fine in the picture.

I don't know about Rooney though. :(

Why do you want a overrated player? He isn't that good. If Man Utd do get him DON'T OVER PAY his ass. :p

At 22 he's one of a small few options there is out there and he can only get better. At his age he has a better goal per game ratio than Van Nistelrooy did, in a better league for a weaker team than Van Nistelrooy.

Oh, and he moves, Van doesn't. Always a plus. (Y)

looks like a super team in the making
Old/Young Class players (Van Buyten, Kahn vs Schweini, Poldi)

What a bloody good Team you will have for the upcoming season

Oliver Kahn - still one of the best keepers
Sagnol - one of the best right backs, not only in the World Cup
Lahm in fine form and after a great world cup
Van Buyten - a bargain buy - he will be a rock
hardworking-teamplayer Hagreaves
a grown up Super Schweini
one half of the "Polska"-strikeforce - Podolski
added with Makaay maybe even Nistelrooy

Who is going to be the (new) Captain ?

Kahn will be the Captain this upcoming season. And thanks for the info Stotty now I hope Bayern don't get RvN :p.

[QUOTE=Pizarro14]Kahn will be the Captain this upcoming season. And thanks for the info Stotty now I hope Bayern don't get RvN :p.[/QUOTE

lol

Bayern make Ruud claim

Bayern have long courted the unsettled Manchester United striker, who has been on the periphery at Old Trafford ever since being axed for February's Carling Cup final.

Now Rummenigge has revealed that the Dutchman, too, is hankering after a switch to Die Bundesliga and the Allianz Arena club.

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has so far refused to discount the 30-year-old from his plans for the forthcoming season but it appears as though van Nistelrooy has decided that his future lies away from The Red Devils.

"The player wants to join us, that is already known," Rummenigge told Bild Am Sonntag.

"We will settle the issue in due course - there is no reason to hurry.

"We have to talk with the player and, of course, Manchester United as well."

General manager Uli Hoeness has revealed that Bayern are active on a number of fronts as they bid to bolster their squad ahead of the new campaign.

The German Rekordmeister have already signed Lukas Podolski and Daniel van Buyten but are still hoping to add at least one more big-name signing.

"There are some things in the pipeline," revealed Hoeness.

(:/)

Let's get realistic. Without a decent cm and midfield leader that can feed the strikers the team will have trouble winning the league.




Who is going to be the (new) Captain ?[/B]
Kahn's gonna be the new and old captain.

[B]Van Buyten - a bargain buy - he will be a rock
10,5 million is hardly a bargain

hardworking-teamplayer Hagreaves
who will be warming the bench since Demichelis is better

a grown up Super Schweini
aka Mr Inconsistent

one half of the "Polska"-strikeforce
I would rather have the other half.

As usual I agree with Vince's takes.

When Kahn leaves who do you think is the captain? I was thinking probably Lucio, but a long shot could be maybe Sagnol. You don't see too many captains at right back though.

As usual I agree with Vince's takes.

When Kahn leaves who do you think is the captain? I was thinking probably Lucio, but a long shot could be maybe Sagnol. You don't see too many captains at right back though.

friedrich of hertha berlin
sagnol is the longest serving player, i think its very appropriate for him to be captain.

Weren't bayern keen on getting Camoranessi? Actually with tomorrow verdict in the italian soccer scandal pending Bayern should keep an eye on Milans, Juves and Lazios players as well.
Pirlo would be nice to have in front of Lucio and Van Buyten.

Sagnol seems to be a bit too calm on and off the pitch and then there's the language barrier which also applies to Lucio. The captain should speak the German language fluently but neither can.

The German guys are all too young so I'd go with van Buyten. His leadership abilities were one of the main reasons that we bought him. He became captain at Hamburg in his first season and did a good job at that.

Oh I didn't realize Lucio and Sagnol weren't fluent in German; they've been there for so long, I would think they would be pretty solid. Especially Sagnol, I'm surprised he didn't learn German as a kid.

Well there's one thing you can always be sure about: Brazilian and French players are not going to learn German. Lizarazu, Sagnol, Micoud, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Juan, Gilberto, Marcelinho, Ailton etc.
The great Giovane Elber was an exception. :)

Anyone know which channel will broadcast the Bundesliga in Canada this season? If its FSWC, i hope they get the rights to the big games. They only showed 2 Bayern games last season and I watched the season on the Internet. Too bad that's not an option anymore.

yea they used to have this german tv going on, but not anymore, damn canada :( i have to find a way to watch :gavin:

and about the language barrier, i saw ze roberto speaking german at an adidas convention in germany when they came out with the new adidas shoes.

"Bayern Make Ruud Claim"

http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article.aspx?hlid=401827&CPID=4&clid=156&lid=9&title=Bayern+make+Ruud+claim

If Ruud goes to Bayern, i'll love Bayern! :bob:

"Bayern Make Ruud Claim"

http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article.aspx?hlid=401827&CPID=4&clid=156&lid=9&title=Bayern+make+Ruud+claim

If Ruud goes to Bayern, i'll love Bayern! :bob:

or would you prefer this

Toni chased by Big Guns

Toni, who hit the bar and had a goal disallowed in Sunday's World Cup final, is being tipped to leave Fiorentina during the summer.

Fiorentina remain insistent that the hit-man, who scored over 30 goals in Serie A last season, will not be sold before the start of next season.

Internazionale have already declared an interest in the former Palermo ace and are awaiting the outcome of the match-fixing scandal, which could see the Viola relegated.

But Inter could be rivalled for Toni's signature by Bayern and Real, with both clubs in the market for a new striker.

Bayern are also keen on Ruud van Nistelrooy, but could turn to Toni, if Manchester United are not persuaded to sell the Dutch hot shot.

Real, now under the charge of Fabio Capello, are also interested in Toni, along with Juventus forward David Trezeguet.

Reports suggest Real could allow Inter free rein to sign Toni, if they are able to conclude a deal for Trezeguet.

I don't want either, but I would prefer Ruud to Toni.

Why the hell aren't we going after some midfielders rather than strikers? Okay, if RVN is available for a reasonable sum then we should go for it, he'd be a great marketing guy and speaks German. But a player like Luca Toni would cost more than €20M plus ridiculous wages and our attacking department with Makaay, Podolski, Pizarro and Roque is not too shabby.

I'd laugh my ass off if Makaay and Pizarro warmed the bench and Ali freaking Karimi started at RM.

yea vince is right about the strikers thing

Well come to think, Heagreaves, Demichelis and the part timing o Scholl & Karimi and you guys should be set in the center.
I also forgot Dos Santo wasn't the guy supposed to be the next big thing?

Bayern may part with Hargreaves if they can land Van Nistelrooy, 30, in a part-exchange deal that would include a cash adjustment of around £7m in United's favour.

Hargreaves plus 10 million for Ruud? :| No thanks. I might do a straight up swap deal so that we could still spend 15+ million for a topclass midfielder.

Unforgiven
Ruud van Nistelrooy is ready to turn his back on the riches of Real Madrid - because Cristiano Ronaldo is heading there. The United striker has told Bayern Munich that he is prepared to ignore the overtures of the Spanish giants, and instead make a shock move to the German champions. Van Nistelrooy famously had a training ground bust-up with Ronaldo that seems to have effectively forced him out of Old Trafford, and he will refuse the chance to team up with the Portuguese winger again.
manutd.com


Sagnol -- Lucio -- van Buyten -- Lahm

----- Demichelis --- Schweinsteiger -----

---- Pizarro -- Makaay -- RVN -- Podolski

:rolleyes:

Old School!!!!! Madrid won a bunch of Cups in the 50's with 4 Forwards right? (H)

Maybe Bayern should do the same :shades:

Sup guys. Just joined the forum.
Im a FCB fan.

Expect me active in here.

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Just checked Bayern's site for today.

Hoeneß praise for Roque in Ballack role

Fitness to take over a new position in the new season, perhaps? Roque feels fully capable of taking over the support role of Michael Ballack – behind the two strikers. "It’s a position which suits me well and one that I like playing in. I have no problems in that position.“

This is exactly what he proved last season in the 3-1 home victory over VfB Stuttgart. "Roque Santa Cruz showed us today that he is a viable alternative for the Ballack position“, commented Hoeneß at the time. Magath also expressed the same opinion: "The position behind the strikers could be just right for Roque.“

"It is always nice when players have confidence in themselves“, commented Magath on Wednesday on the subject. He also indicated that he wanted to test his options in the coming weeks. "Then we will see how it all fits together.“ Whatever happens, Santa Cruz is definitely ready for a new challenge.


Definately not bad. Remember when Roque played that position.
He was good, and he can do it. Why not?

Yall agree?

Isnt Roque too much of a target man? Podolski should play behind the two strikers.

No, he can't finish to save his life but has good technique and passing ability. Hell, he'll miss 3/4 of the season due to injury anyway so let's focus on his countryman dos Santos.

If it were'nt for his injuries, he would be an excellent player, same goes to Deisler, always getting injured, if it were'nt for his injuries, he too would be an excellent player

I wonder if Deisler is still suffering mentally from missing the world cup..

Have a look at this Klobb

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=375222&plid=4115&clid=156&cpid=22

And according to 'Sport Bild' Van Nistelrooy is heading to Real Madrid :( :( :(

http://www.sportbild.de/nncs/fussball/2006/07/13/3842700000.html

Damn f**k Real Madrid, RVN should come to us.
Well If we ain't getting RVN, then they gotta bring Luca Toni, we need another striker for real.

I wonder if Deisler is still suffering mentally from missing the world cup..

Damn, word.
He missed two WC's.

Well all sources are quoting that marca article. Rummenigge said Ruud wants to come to us so we'll have to see how that turns out.

With Ruud heading to Madrid and Inter close to signing Zlatan I guess we'd have a shot at Toni - but again, we don't necessarily need a fifth striker when we lack quality in midfield. There are wiser ways spend 20 million.

Though I gotta admit, Toni and Podolski would complement each other well.

Again, I doubt an Italian will leave Italy. But then again Toni is probably too old to think about the next Championships anyway.

Are you guys wanting a striker to replace Makaay?

I don't want either striker, I'm satisfied with Pizzaro, Santa Cruz, Podolski, and Makaay.

I want Ribery!! Then we can slide one of the wingers (Deisler/Schweinsteiger) into the middle.

Eh, I don't think we'd be able to land Ribery

He's most probably going to Lyon

Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy wants a move to Real Madrid.

The Times says Real are understood to have contacted Van Nistelrooy's agent, Rodger Linse, over the past 48 hours to signal their readiness to secure a deal for the Holland forward.

No formal contact is thought to have been made between the clubs as yet, but United are willing to discuss a deal, provided that the Spanish club offer more than the £10.5 million fee that has been mooted in Madrid.

Bayern Munich are also interested in Van Nistelrooy, but the 30-year-old, having shown no interest in moves to Newcastle United or SV Hamburg this summer, has a clear preference to join Real, where he is expected to be the first of many signings made by Fabio Capello, the new coach.


I think this is over, so they should focus on someone else.
Luca Toni, Ribery or Pirlo, why not.

From those, I'd want Ribery the most.
To Klobb: Why cant we man? Money does everything.
Plus no team offered him yet. Ribery's manager said he has no offer from any team, just he heard that Bayern and Real Madrid are interested.
Then why the Bayern heads are waiting? They should get him before Real M gets involved, like they took RVN from our hands, damn.

Well all sources are quoting that marca article. Rummenigge said Ruud wants to come to us so we'll have to see how that turns out.

With Ruud heading to Madrid and Inter close to signing Zlatan I guess we'd have a shot at Toni - but again, we don't necessarily need a fifth striker when we lack quality in midfield. There are wiser ways spend 20 million.

Though I gotta admit, Toni and Podolski would complement each other well.

Erm, probably Roque might be turned to a midfielder and play the Ballack's position, so we'd have just 3 strikers.

I dunno, i just want more goals by Bayern.
I just want 2-3 goals for every match, not hardly scoring a single goal.

Bayern has contacted Marseille about Ribery, but I don't see us having a chance at signing him to be honest.

Bayern Munich have revealed their admiration for Marseille winger Franck Ribery.

Even before the World Cup there had been a lot of talk about the 23-year-old sealing a high-profile move but, after a series of sparkling displays for France, speculation has spiralled out of control.

Marseille are determined to keep Ribery but appear to be fighting a losing battle with a host of the continent's top clubs flexing their muscles.

Arsenal, Manchester United and Real Madrid have all been linked with the youngster, while Ribery himself is believed to favour a switch to Lyon.

Bayern have now thrown their name into the hat, with coach Felix Magath admitting that he was impressed by Ribery's performances in Germany.

"He played a very good World Cup after progressing well at Marseille last season," hailed Magath.

"He is a very interesting man."

General manager Uli Hoeness also recognised that Ribery provided Les Bleus with an extra dimension during their run to the World Cup final.

"Ribery impressed us very much during the World Cup. He is an excellent dribbler and does not back out of challenges," Hoeness told Bild.
planetfootball.com

Anyone knows which TV station gon show live the game Racing Strasbourg vs FC Bayern tomorrow? Any german or french TV?

Anyone remember the accusations made by Rummenigge towards Juve during the Sagnol soap opera?

- They're no gentlemen at Juve, they're all Mafiosi.

Haha :jambo:

I wish our scouts were just a little bit better.... we should have tried very hard to sign Ribery before the World Cup.

Zlatan going to Inter :O

Luca Toni is 30 years old. Pizzaro is younger, and Makaay is the same age, that doesn't make any sense. If we want a player why not go for Bojinov/Mutu (sure they just transfered, but both of their clubs are going DOWN now)? Also, I think we are probably going to sign Cammoranesi which I'm pretty happy about. Sure he's a bit older, but he will be relatively cheap and will really give us options in the midfield.

And what about Sebastian Frey? Or are we convinced Rensing is the future?

And what about Sebastian Frey? Or are we convinced Rensing is the future?
Yes, Rensing is our future No. 1 but Kahn might even stay until after 2008.

Zlatan going to Inter :O Luca Toni is 30 years old. Pizzaro is younger, and Makaay is the same age, that doesn't make any sense.
Toni just turned 29, Makaay is 31. I think Toni would complement Podolski better than any of our current strikers. Unlike Makaay he works for the team 90 minutes a game, draws the attention away from the second striker and is also lethal in front of the goal, a bit similar to Klose.

Also, I think we are probably going to sign Cammoranesi which I'm pretty happy about. Sure he's a bit older, but he will be relatively cheap and will really give us options in the midfield.
He'd be a good addition but won't be cheap. He'd cost something in the 10-15 million range, ManU are also after him.

Anyone remember the accusations made by Rummenigge towards Juve during the Sagnol soap opera?

- They're no gentlemen at Juve, they're all Mafiosi.

Haha :jambo:


Hahahaha, he was right the wholeee time :ewan:

poor juve, really got owned

Can you imagine being Sagnol right now. Talk about dodging a bullet.

wait, so with all this striker talk, are you guys actually selling any forwards?

If you were going to part ways with any of them, I could see alot of big teams being very intrested, unless it was Santa Cruz. Still, even then...

^ No, I don't really think we're selling any striker. We just want a 5th one.

Anyone remember the accusations made by Rummenigge towards Juve during the Sagnol soap opera?

- They're no gentlemen at Juve, they're all Mafiosi.

Haha :jambo:

Hahahaha. Word.
Rummenige's knew.

Anyone knows which TV station gon show live the game Racing Strasbourg vs FC Bayern today? Any german or french TV?

Some French tv station, don't know which one.

wait, so with all this striker talk, are you guys actually selling any forwards?

If you were going to part ways with any of them, I could see alot of big teams being very intrested, unless it was Santa Cruz. Still, even then...
Pizarro or Makaay. I heard PSV are ready to make an offer for Makaay if VoH leaves them.

And Pizzaro could be joining Hamburg SV

Racing Strasbourg - FC Bayern 2:0 (0:0)
FC Bayern: Rensing – Salihamidzic, Lell, Saba, Krause – Karimi, Ottl, Dos Santos, Scholl (46. Fürstner) – Santa Cruz, Makaay (46. Maierhofer)

attendance: 10.000
Goals: 1:0 Gasmi (75.), 2:0 Perbet (82.)

Bayern's MoM: Rensing

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Since Lazio will get relegated, we should try to get Behrami, a 21 year old Swiss International. We had been linked with him before the Calciopoli.

Not really worried about the Strasbourg game.
I see it was just a 'lets play' game.
I mean no effort in it, friendly, and without 85% of our standard team.

About Behrami.
Yea man, thats my countrymen. He's very good.
I'd be glad to have an Albanian in Bayern.

Is'nt he Swiss?

Swiss with Albanian roots. He´s born in Mitrovica, Kosovo

He was born in Kosovo, but I think he eventually decided to play for the swiss

While in Germany for the World Cup, I got to see the first Bayern training session. Pretty cool stuff to see the players mess around a bit. Brazzo was great and I got a picture with him. I'll post it later. I got another one with Pizzaro and Deisler. Out of the available players, Brazzo, Pizzaro and Makaay seemed to be the coolest around. Scholl was a little prick and just took off after training without signing anything. He didn't drive though, he went with Ottl, because his license is suspended for speeding. Demichelis was there too but he didn't train.

i'd love to see Ribéry with Bayern, is Bayern really trying to sign him? or is Ribéry's agent trying to create more hype?

Ok, the first cup match will be against "lovely" St. Pauli.

:boohoo:

i'd love to see Ribéry with Bayern, is Bayern really trying to sign him? or is Ribéry's agent trying to create more hype?

Hopefully we're trying to sign him, but it it's probably more that Ribery's agent is trying to drive up the price from Lyon.

Great. Ruud will sign with Madrid, Marseille want 25 million +x for Ribery, Toni costs 30 million +x and Makaay is pissed we want to sign another big name striker and might want to move back to Holland :|(Y)
CL contender my arse.

According to Behrami's agent we made an inquiry for him. Kaiser, can you tell us more about him? I read he's a defensive minded midfielder but we need someone that can take Deisler's spot on the right.

Swiss with Albanian roots. He´s born in Mitrovica, Kosovo

He's 100% kosovar, albanian.
He just got the Swiss nationality in order to play for Switzerland NT, becuase the Albania NT didnt promise him much.
Kosova is not still an official country (soon to be, this year deff.).

Anyway.. :)

Here's the full bio of the dude:

Valon Behrami (born 19 April 1985 in Mitrovica, Kosovo) is a Swiss midfielder currently playing professional football for S.S. Lazio of Italian Serie A.
Born in Kosovo to Albanian parents, Behrami moved to Stabio, a village in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland, due to war when he was only a child, and he then obtained the Swiss nationality.
Behrami started playing football in Swiss sides FC Stabio, FC Chiasso and FC Lugano. After a number of impressive appearances with FC Lugano, Behrami was jointly signed by Italian teams Genoa and Udinese, and played the Serie B championship with Genoa in 2003. In 2004, Udinese sold its rights on Behrami to Hellas Verona, and therefore Behrami moved to the gialloblu side, again in Serie B. After an impressive season played with Hellas Verona, Lazio signed him in the summer of 2005. He is used to wear the #85 jersey, as he does for Lazio. He has made € 6 000 000 so far in his professional career.

Behrami has also been capped for the Switzerland national football team at the Under-18, Under-19 and "A" levels. However, Behrami has also expressed the wish to play for Kosovo if the area should gain independence.
For the Swiss national team, Behrami scored a very important goal against Turkey in the Stade de Suisse in the last 2006 World Cup barrage.
During the World Cup he endured a grion injury which put him on the side for the first two matches. On the third match he was subbed in the game, in the 88th minute. He did not participate in the goaless loss to Ukraine in the final 16th, round. Some feel that the decision by coach Kobi Kuhn, not to put Behrami in the game was a very poor mistake


To Vince:
Behrami is an advanced midfielder.
Position: Right winger, right back, precisely.

So he could be a good replacement for Deisler.

Today i heard that Bayern is having Contacts to Toni and Pirlo. But i still hope, that van Nistelrooy will sign with us


Makaay-----------------van Nistelrooy


-------------------------Podolski---------------------------


Schweinsteiger-----------------------------------Hargreaves


------------------------Demichelis----------------------------


Lahm----------------------------------------------Sagnol


------------------Lucio----------van Buyten--------------



-------------------------- Kahn-----------------------------

Ruud van Nistelrooy will be presented tomorrow as the new striker for Real Madrid, Dutch media report this.
They wait till tomorrow because David Gill will be back from holiday and he want to talk to Calderon personally but it's a done deal. Both clubs and RvN reached an agreement so he is going to be a galactico not a Bavarian :rolleyes: sorry guys.

He's 100% kosovar, albanian.
He just got the Swiss nationality in order to play for Switzerland NT, becuase the Albania NT didnt promise him much.
Kosova is not still an official country (soon to be, this year deff.).

Anyway.. :)

Here's the full bio of the dude:



To Vince:
Behrami is an advanced midfielder.
Position: Right winger, right back, precisely.

So he could be a good replacement for Deisler.
Thanks for the info. I guess him and Karimi would be the only players that don't speak either German or Spanish.

Ruud van Nistelrooy will be presented tomorrow as the new striker for Real Madrid, Dutch media report this.
They wait till tomorrow because David Gill will be back from holiday and he want to talk to Calderon personally but it's a done deal. Both clubs and RvN reached an agreement so he is going to be a galactico not a Bavarian :rolleyes: sorry guys.

The team has lost interest in him, anyway.

By the way dudes, which is gonna be our home trikot/jersey for 2006/07?
The one they've been wearing in friendly matches?
Also, Champions League one, whats gon be?

Any info, any pics seen or something?

Thanks for the info. I guess him and Karimi would be the only players that don't speak either German or Spanish.
Are you sure? I know he lived in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland, but I'm almost sure that he speaks German.

By the way dudes, which is gonna be our home trikot/jersey for 2006/07?
The one they've been wearing in friendly matches?
Also, Champions League one, whats gon be?

Any info, any pics seen or something?


The same of 05/06 season, except this time i think they will have the three stripes of Adidas, just like the ones used in the last Champions League.

http://www.footcenter.fr/data/depot/211461-550-466.jpg

Magath has extended for another year until 2008. How I love his boring ass football :boohoo:


Are you sure? I know he lived in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland, but I'm almost sure that he speaks German.
It was just a guess as he's only been living in Italian speaking communities so far.

The same of 05/06 season, except this time i think they will have the three stripes of Adidas, just like the ones used in the last Champions League.

http://www.footcenter.fr/data/depot/211461-550-466.jpg

Yea, there's a bit change.
There's a change on the logo aswell.

I like the stripes more

Bayern are not going after any Juve players. Rummenigge:"I had a discussion with Magath about some of their players but we don't want to financially help a club that did shameful things in the past years."
He also confirmed that a transfer of Ribery is off the table.
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Ha, I tell you we're heading into the new season without any midfield reinforcements. Watch out for Bremen owning us again this year as they have the better midfield, strikers and Mertesacker will improve their defense a lot. And they have 1/2 of our budget. :rolleyes:

Bayern are not going after any Juve players. Rummenigge:"I had a discussion with Magath about some of their players but we don't want to financially help a club that did shameful things in the past years."
He also confirmed that a transfer of Ribery is off the table.
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Ha, I tell you we're heading into the new season without any midfield reinforcements. Watch out for Bremen owning us again this year as they have the better midfield, strikers and Mertesacker will improve their defense a lot. And they have 1/2 of our budget. :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that is just an excuse :rolleyes:

Their players could really help Bayern a lot

Juventus cant afford right now in serie B and without playing champions league, the salaries of their players.

But if Bayern doesnt buy, many other teams will.


anyway, i have a question.

If Bayern wins one more championship, we will have 20 titles since the Bundesliga Creation, so another star will be added to the logo?

http://www.fanmarkt.de/catalog/images/BW-BAYERN3.jpg

The German FA has to decide that. Maybe the 4th star will be awarded for 25 or even 30 titles.

there's no real system behind it anyway

3 titles - one star (Bremen, Dortmund, Hamburg)
5 titles - two stars (Mönchengladbach)
10 titles - three stars (Bayern)

They want as many teams as possible to have at least one star but at the same time avoid that the stars completely cover Bayern's jerseys.

They want as many teams as possible to have at least one star but at the same time avoid that the stars completely cover Bayern's jerseys.

Well, then they should consider all the "german" titles since 1902.

I mean, there was football before bundesliga too.

According to the German paper "Bild" Ruud has agreed to terms with Bayern after all and if the two clubs agree on a transfer fee (5 million differential at the moment), the deal will be finalized very soon. :confused:

edit: "Kicker", a far more reliable source, reports the same.

yea i read something like that, btw nice sig

Well, then they should consider all the "german" titles since 1902.

I mean, there was football before bundesliga too.
Well, but the DFL doesn't give **** about history you know? This titles are acknowledged by the DFB (German FA), but not by the DFL. ("German Football League). The DFL is responsible for the Bundesligas.

very nice sig vince :rockman:
So after all the drama, Ruud's coming to munich, woo woo :rockman:

Yeah, cool signature Vince :shades:

There's also a report in Skysports about Ruud

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=404419&CPID=22&clid=156&lid=2&title=Bayern+insistent+over+Ruud

In other news, Behrami stated that he wants to join Bayern if Lazio get relegated.
I believe he would be the final piece of the puzzle, the versatile midfielder we need.

Let's start posting potential line-ups like they do in the Madrid thread all time :p

The defense is pretty much set and rock solid

-- Kahn --

Sagnol -- Lucio -- van Buyten -- Lahm

with Ruud and Behrami we would have lots of options to play either the usual 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3

-- Demichelis/Owen --

Behrami/Karimi/Deisler --------------------- Schweinsteiger

------------------ dos Santos/Scholl/Roque -------------

----------------- RVN -- Podolski ----------------


What to do with Makay and Pizarro? We need one class striker coming off the bench that means we could offload one of them. Makaay imo can't play together with Ruud but we wouldn't get much for him anymore. Pizarro on the other hand has more value due to his age. Hamburg and other clubs would pay 8-10 million which is good money.

Lazio are relegated

They appealed, we have to wait until the final verdict.

Behrami could leave Lazio on a free transfer.

Can someone tell me now that Ballack is gone to Chelsea..........who is the new Captain of FC Bayern Munich?

Can someone tell me now that Ballack is gone to Chelsea..........who is the new Captain of FC Bayern Munich?
Kahn has always been Bayern's captain. Ballack is only captain when Kahn doesn't play.

But since Ballack is gone, who will be the new vice captain then?

But since Ballack is gone, who will be the new vice captain then?

I remember very well..
When Kahn was not on field, Ballack was the captain.
- If Ballack wasn't there aswell, Salihamidzic was the captain (if Salihamdzic is in the field).
- If Ballack wasn't there, and if Salihamdiz wasn't there aswell, Willy Sagnol was captain.

So our vice captain is Sagnol, because you can expect him in field a lot more then Salihamidzic.

They appealed, we have to wait until the final verdict.

Behrami could leave Lazio on a free transfer.

I just read an official interview from Behrami for a local newspaper here.
Behrami said that if the Italian FA decision remains the same (Lazio stays in Serie B), he's 100% FCB player.

I dont really think the Italian FA will change their verdicts.
I think Behrami is ours, haha.

Aswell, expect van Nistelrooy to sign with us in the upcoming days. :cool:
We'll give him the #9 jersey... :)

-- Kahn --

Sagnol -- Lucio -- van Buyten -- Lahm

with Ruud and Behrami we would have lots of options to play either the usual 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3

-- Demichelis/Owen --

Behrami/Karimi/Deisler --------------------- Schweinsteiger

------------------ dos Santos/Scholl/Roque -------------

----------------- RVN -- Podolski ----------------

This team can win Champions League this year, trust me. :)

What to do with Makay and Pizarro? We need one class striker coming off the bench that means we could offload one of them. Makaay imo can't play together with Ruud but we wouldn't get much for him anymore. Pizarro on the other hand has more value due to his age. Hamburg and other clubs would pay 8-10 million which is good money.

We should sell either Makaay or Pizarro.
I'd rather see Pizza still in the team though.
Makaay been out of form last season, while Pizarro was very good.

But I dont really see Makaay going. He just extended his contract.
Probably Pizza will leave us, anyway.

Im really sure 100% that Podolski and RVN will be our starting 11 strikers.
Makaay or Pizarro would be used just as substitutes.

dos Santos... is that that young Mexican attacking midfielder who was in the Barca Youth ranks, Giovanni dos Santos? Is he at Bayern now?

Nah, I don't think so.

Nah, he's a kid from Paraguay.



So our vice captain is Sagnol, because you can expect him in field a lot more then Salihamidzic.
Or van Buyten, he was mainly bought for his leadership qualities.



A story from the Mirror, too bad they seem to confuse the currencies.
BAYERN MUNICH are ready to hijack Real Madrid's attempt to sign Ruud van Nistelrooy by offering £14.5million for the Manchester United striker.

United want £15m for van Nistelrooy but are understood to be willing to accept Bayern's I offer to ensure the quick sale of the out-of-favour Dutchman. After rejecting Real's original bid of £12m because of the performance-related clauses built into their proposed deal, United are keen to do a deal with Bayern.

The German champions have claimed van Nistelrooy wants to join them ahead of Real, while the striker's agent Rodger Linse said a move to Bayern was likely.

Linse said: "Bayern are certainly a very good opportunity and we are now keen to make a quick decision."

'Hijack', great choice of words.. :rolleyes:

I heard that Owen Hargreaves could be swaped to Manchester United for Ruud Van Nistelrooy :nape:

Where has Ze Roberto gone? He was linked with some Premier League clubs and Olympiakos. Any news?

Real Madrid

Has he actually signed for his old club?

I don't think so (:/)

He hasn't signed for any team yet, I bet he'll end up in Greece. That's where he belongs.

Hi again, this is only my second post here. I've only recently caught the "soccer bug" and have lots to learn still. I'm a fan of FC Bayern as my girlfriend is from Mantel (near Weiden) in Bavaria's Oberpfalz (sorry for my poor spelling) I'm from Brooklyn NY originally but my grandfather is from Fussen. She & I live in California and follow the developments online and via the few Bayern Munich games we get here on cable. So my posts will be few as I will mainly be learning from reading what is posted here.

Here's my question.........I've read that many expect Kahn to come back as starting keeper, is he 100 % recovered from his injury from last season (based on what I've heard on cable it was a serious thigh injury). What about Rensing? Any possiblity on seeing him as starter and what do you think of his prospects? Many thanks ~!

He'll be number one once Oliver Kahn retires :)

Here's my question.........I've read that many expect Kahn to come back as starting keeper, is he 100 % recovered from his injury from last season (based on what I've heard on cable it was a serious thigh injury).
Yes, he's 100% recovered as seen in the WC when he made some great saves against Portugal like in the old days.

What about Rensing? Any possiblity on seeing him as starter and what do you think of his prospects? Many thanks ~!
Due to Kahn's age he's a bit more injury prone so Rensing will surely get some playing time, he will probably start some Cup games as well.
From what I've seen so far Rensing has lots of potential but he's not similar to Kahn at all, more like a Hildebrand type of player. He has decent footballing skiles (could play as a field player in the third devision) which will help.

He will be 24 in 2008. That should be the right time to take over Kahn's job.

you guys not linked to Saviola? think he would be a good buy?

A Ruud/Makaay - Podolski duo up front with Schweinsteiger behind should be solid.

yea, that would work to perfection since poldi and schweini know how to play with each other.

What do you guys expect from the game against barcelona in the "Gamper trophy"

I think neither barca or bayern will risk much, so they will play at slow peace and wont be a "ecxiting" match.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/tifon/gamperbarcabayern.jpg

What do you guys expect from the game against barcelona in the "Gamper trophy"

I think neither barca or bayern will risk much, so they will play at slow peace and wont be a "ecxiting" match.

Hmm Bayern play a league game just two days before the Gamper trophy but we should still play the best team in such a prestigious match.

I don't know what to expect but our players should be in better shape because the season in Germany starts a few weeks earlier.

Let's not forget that we still have Brazzo. Nobody has mentioned him in any of the lineups... neither as a starter or backup. I think he can play on the wing when Schweinsteiger isn't performing. He can play plenty of positions to allow him about 45 minutes of play. Plus, he was a starter at the end of last season.

He's getting towards the end of his career, ain't he?(brazzo that is)

yea, but still he is very usefull and can get forward at times

He's Magath's favorite, he'll get lots of playing time. I loved him in his prime but after several serious injuries he's totally lost it. :(
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According to the official fcbayern.de site and not some tabloid paper Bayern made a new offer for Ruud today and Hoeness confirmed that Ruud wants to join us.

Bayern up their bid for van Nistelrooy

Bayern Munich believe they are close to signing Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy after submitting a new bid for the Dutchman.

Club president Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and general manager Uli Hoeness both believe they have made progress towards completing a deal.

The Bayern website reported on Sunday that a new bid had been lodged for Van Nistelrooy who fell out with United boss Sir Alex Ferguson towards the end of last season.

"He (Van Nistelrooy) wants to come to us," Hoeness told the website. "Now the ball's in Man U's court."

Rummenigge told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper: "He (van Nistelrooy) is one of the best strikers in Europe, he gets goals and he is a personality.

"It would be great if we could land a striker of his calibre."

Real Madrid also want to sign 30-year-old Van Nistelrooy but Rummenigge claimed the Bavarians would not be rushed into a move.

"We have time," he said. "The transfer window is open for five weeks. Van Nistelrooy has told us that he can play for Bayern.

"We have already talked about money. Manchester United must decide the rest and they won't give him away for nothing."
teamtalk.com

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Makaay and Pizarro are being linked with Hamburg. After giving them Trochowski for basically nothing, sold Guerrero for little money and bought van Buyten for friggin 11 million (which they used to buy Kompany) our secret mission to awake a sleeping giant would have finally been accomplished.

bayern have agreed on personal terms with ruud , but now it is up to man u and fergie

with all due respect to Bayern, may I ask why you think Ruud would prefer you guys over Real?

Because he might actually play at Bayern.

with Ronaldo always/currently injured, and Capello's knack of playing two strikers, one targetman, one poacher, I think he'd play.

but I guess maybe Bayern guarentee first team football.

So you guys would look like this

----------------------------(1)Kahn----------------------------

(2)Sagnol--------(3)Lucio-------(5)Van Buyten---------(21)Lahm

---------------------------(6.)Demichelis------------------------

(26)Deisler----------(23)Hargreaves----------(31)Schweinstainger

--------(11)Podolski-------------------------(9)RVN-------------

Pretty decent.

but no natural AMC? who exactly is being lined up as Ballack's replacement?

Well thw 2 wingers should push up forward and Hargreaves is not bad at all so they should be feeding their strikers pretty well.

Makaay and Pizarro are being linked with Hamburg. After giving them Trochowski for basically nothing, sold Guerrero for little money and bought van Buyten for friggin 11 million (which they used to buy Kompany) our secret mission to awake a sleeping giant would have finally been accomplished.

Well so much to make the Bundesliga competitive, and you guys b!tching about being the only team who spends i think it is a little harsh to say that mate.
I would have been happy if i was you. Look at the best campionships: Italy has Milan, Inter & Juve that spend. In Spain Barcelona & Real Madrid, in England, Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal so if there is a second other than Bayern in Germany wouldn't hurt.

Werder Bremen would have deservedly knocked Juventus out of the Champions League last year if their keeper didn't make that mistake. Werder Bremen are already a big challenge, it's not fun to go from perennial winners to third place.

that W. Bremen team with Micoud was fun to watch, not because of Micoud specially, but because they sometimes played some nice football.

']with all due respect to Bayern, may I ask why you think Ruud would prefer you guys over Real?
If he was a few years younger I would ask that myself, too.
Guaranteed first team football, trophies on national level, no language barrier and closer to his home country.

I'd rather have Klose, too bad he's not affordable. :(

']but no natural AMC? who exactly is being lined up as Ballack's replacement?
In a classical diamond system either dos Santos or Santa Cruz with Scholl getting limited minutes. Both have shown flashes playing that position.
If this doesn't pan out I'd try the Ruud-Makaay partnership with Podolski in his favorite role behind them.

------------------ Demichelis/Owen ------------

------ Schweinsteiger ------------- Podolski -------------

--------------- Ruud ----------- Makaay --------------

Well so much to make the Bundesliga competitive, and you guys b!tching about being the only team who spends i think it is a little harsh to say that mate.
I would have been happy if i was you. Look at the best campionships: Italy has Milan, Inter & Juve that spend. In Spain Barcelona & Real Madrid, in England, Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal so if there is a second other than Bayern in Germany wouldn't hurt.
They can spend as much money as they want and acquire good players, fine. In my opinion it's too risky to give them three players within a year that will vastly improve a team that finished third last year and beat us twice. You don't see Chelsea selling Essien, Duff, Robben etc. to ManU either.

that W. Bremen team with Micoud was fun to watch, not because of Micoud specially, but because they sometimes played some nice football.
They bought Diego from Porto, I'm sure he will blossom there when he can finally play his natural position.

Ruud and Makaay as a duo is not that fantastic, Marco tried this in our National squad but it was as if they were playing alone :rolleyes:
It's not like Pizarro and Makaay for instance, they are better as a duo in front.
So it would be wise to either select Roy or Ruud but both..ah well you never know.
First Ruud needs to sign for your club and Real Madrid has announced today that they will present Ruud this thursday :o

If Podolski were to play behind Ruud/Roy, I think that would be interesting to watch..

I think that's a rumour, Manchester United have yet to agree offers from either Bayern Munich or Real Madrid

Ruud and Makaay as a duo is not that fantastic, Marco tried this in our National squad but it was as if they were playing alone :rolleyes:

Wasn't that in the 4-3-3 formation? I'd try it, maybe it would work if they got to know each other better.

It's not like Pizarro and Makaay for instance, they are better as a duo in front.
That duo sucks ass up front. Pizarro is in midfield most of the time, Makaay also prefers to play a bit deeper or on the wings. Ruud would be another type of striker, more like a classical target man.

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Apparently ManU are pissed at Bayern because we don't want to give them Hargreaves as part of the Ruud deal.

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Rumor: Makaay would be sold to Hamburg and he wants to go there. :(

...Rumor: Makaay would be sold to Hamburg and he wants to go there. :(

I read that too...I think Beckenbauer said it.

Bayern increased their bid from €13M to €17M, ManU still want €22M. This should be over pretty soon. :amika:

i doubt they will shell out 22 million for Ruud's services, its gon end up around 19, I predict it :boohoo:

makaay will not go hamburg.
the salary is too much for hamburg! ;)

Beckenbauer: 'Per Van Nistelrooy potremmo cedere Makaay o Pizarro'

16:06 del 24 luglio

Malgrado Ruud Van Nistelrooy abbia ripreso oggi ad allenarsi con il Manchester United, il Bayern Monaco rialza la testa e accentua il pressing sui Red Devils. "Dal Manchester ci separano soltanto cinque milioni. Per arrivare a Ruud Van Nistelrooy, potremmo inserire nella trattativa Pizarro o Makaay". Lo ha dichiarato il presidente dei bavaresi, Franz Beckenbauer, fiducioso che la richiesta di 22 milioni possa essere presto soddisfatta.


It says that Beckenbayer is ready to fill the difference by adding eather Makaay or Pizarro to the 16 mil offer. That would be plain dumb. I am sure Makaay would be a great addition to the red devils.

What! I think that MAkaay is worth more than 7 odd mil.

Now MU want's 22m :nape: for RvN?? :o
It goes up every day what the hell is SAF thinking?
He does everything to trouble the deal but in the end BM will win I think.
Ruud would be a great player for the German Bundesliga and a great asset to the team.

To be fair, that's exactly the 15 million pounds they have wanted since day one.

Ruud is not that much of an improvement over Makaay on the pitch but he's the kind of superstar we've been after for years. Him and Podolski should close the gap in terms of merchandising with Ballack's departure.

I can't wait to hear the "Ruud" chants at the Arena. :rockman:

Lazio to remain in Serie A, so Behrami won't join us :(

when I first heard those at Old Trafford I thought the fans were actually booing him :$

my father (not a football fanatic) out of all people told me that they were chanting "RUUUUUUDDDD"

']when I first heard those at Old Trafford I thought the fans were actually booing him :$

my father (not a football fanatic) out of all people told me that they were chanting "RUUUUUUDDDD"



LOOOOL :rofl:

According to the Daily Mirror (yeah, I know) the deal will be finalized in the next 24 hours for a fee of €20M/13,5 million pounds.

Good decision by Podolski not to take the #9.

Podolski taking number 20??

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Brazzo should get that number STILL

According to the Daily Mirror (yeah, I know) the deal will be finalized in the next 24 hours for a fee of €20M/13,5 million pounds.

Good decision by Podolski not to take the #9.

Still seems like too much money, 13M Euros seems fair to me. Personally I'd tell Manchester United to either accept fair value or keep a player that doesn't want to be there.

or keep a player that doesn't want to be there.

There is a catch there though, Real Madrid offered 20 mil.

According to the Daily Mirror (yeah, I know) the deal will be finalized in the next 24 hours for a fee of €20M/13,5 million pounds.

Good decision by Podolski not to take the #9.

Is the Daily Mirror reliable?

Nope.

Still seems like too much money, 13M Euros seems fair to me. Personally I'd tell Manchester United to either accept fair value or keep a player that doesn't want to be there.
You have to take into account the money we get for selling either Makaay or Pizza, then we've ultimately paid about 10 million for a nice upgrade to our strike strikeforce.

Real Madrid have up their offer :(

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Pardon the interruption, but why are we not looking into Maniche instead of Ruud?! I'm sure we could get Maniche for right around that amount. Also, why not look into Aimar. We need another midfielder damn it!

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Because we want to buy a big name player?

Maniche? He's too similar to Owen and Micho, we don't need him.
Aimar is too injury prone.

We definitely have quantity in midfield, give them a chance. We gotta see if Schweini can play more consistent than in the past, if Podolski can play behind the strikers and if one of Roque/dos Santos pans out.

Aimar has been a name that a few of us here on the SG boards have floated around for Bayern to buy over the past few years, but I don't think the club is seriously looking at him.

Maniche is a DM isn't he? Why would we buy another DM when we are strong at that position?

Vince, I realize that we would sell Pizza or Makaay and ultimately Ruud wouldn't cost the club all that much, but you also have to take into account that we would be upgrading Hamburg who will likely buy who we sell.

I really don't like Maniche, he's like 30 isn't he?
- Aimar has injury-proneness, but why not take a gamble, cause I'm starting to think Ruud is going to head to madrid.

"Real Madrid has reportedly increased its offer for Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy to €15 million (US$18.9 million)." (FSL)

Sorry for buttin' in but is Ruud really worth that being 30 years old and may have 3 good years left? Also is that Real Madrid offer not including a person? I'm still new to this but my "gut" says we could do better and it smells like all business (get the big name to bring in the crowd now that Balack is gone).

Maniche? He's too similar to Owen and Micho, we don't need him.



Maniche is similar to Demichelis, who undoubtely is strong in defense but can't create,pass,shoot or dribble to save his life? uh-ha.

You're right about not needing Maniche,though. Hargreaves really is a somewhat similar type of player.

Maniche is similar to Demichelis, who undoubtely is strong in defense but can't create,pass,shoot or dribble to save his life? uh-ha.

This guy that can't create, pass, shoot or dribble was Bayern's best player until the winter break and he is our best dm. I'll stick with him. :rolleyes:

The Ruud to Madrid deal seems to be official. Great, now Makaay and Pizarro should be pissed that we wanted to get rid of them and other clubs know that we are willing to spend up to 17 million on one player. :nape:

Klose anyone? Or Borowski?

As you guys already know, Ruud has joined Real Madrid. I wonder if we offered more money or it was just Ruud's wish to play for us that sealed the deal.

Anyway, tough break for you guys.

@vince

I saw all bayern games last season and I have to agree that demichelis is good defensive midfielder, but he's completely unable to contribute anything to the offensive end. the lack of creating surprising moments has been one of bayern's major weaknesses, a second dynamic midfielder like maniche,mavuba or someone along those lines could help there definately...

the lack of creating surprising moments has been one of bayern's major weaknesses
I know. That was supposed to be Ballack's job who was crap all season long. Now we gotta wait and see. Like I said before, one of Podolski/dos Santos/Santa Cruz/Schweinsteiger should be able to play the AMC role.

Maniche might be similar to Demichelis but he's way better coming forward. He might not play as a true attacking mid, but if you played him and Demichelis/Owen flat in the middle of the park, it would work out IMO. We all saw how he gets forwards and scores goals. Maniche doesn't play too defensive so that would allow Demichelis to do his job while Maniche does a little bit of both.

As you guys already know, Ruud has joined Real Madrid. I wonder if we offered more money or it was just Ruud's wish to play for us that sealed the deal.

Anyway, tough break for you guys.


Ruud always made it clear that he preferred to go to Madrid so..

Hoeness stated we're done with transfers this summer.

This means we're heading into the season with the following squad:

Goalkeepers
1 - Oliver Kahn
22 - Michael Rensing

Defenders
2 - Willy Sagnol
3 - Lucio
5 - Daniel van Buyten
18 - Andreas Görlitz
21 - Philipp Lahm
25 - Valerien Ismael
30 - Christian lell


Midfielders
6 - Martin Demichelis
7 - Mehmet Scholl
8 - Ali Karimi
19 - Julio Dos Santos
20 - Hasan Salihamidzic
23 - Owen Hargreaves
26 - Sebastian Deisler
31 - Bastian Schweinsteiger
36 - Stephan Fürstner
39 - Andreas Ottl


Forwards
10 - Roy Makaay
11 - Lukas Podolski
14 - Claudio Pizarro
24 - Roque Santa Cruz

CL quarterfinal exit here we come. :nape:

Why haven't we been mentioning Karimi for the AM position? He showed some great flashes last year.

Scholl needs to give up that #7 to Schweinsteiger. Having one of our best players using #31 is embarassing.

Bixente Lizarazu's number was the best- 69 (6)

Tomorrow's Bild has this headline: "van Nistelrooy verarscht die Bayern"

The club's gonna comment on the RVN saga on Friday. Apparently he and his agent fooled Bayern to get more money from Madrid. Bayern is well pissed off as it was the second time they did that (he was close to signing with us in 2001).

Tomorrow's Bild has this headline: "van Nistelrooy verarscht die Bayern"

The club's gonna comment on the RVN saga on Friday. Apparently he and his agent fooled Bayern to get more money from Madrid. Bayern is well pissed off as it was the second time they did that (he was close to signing with us in 2001).

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Valdez + Frei > Poldi + Makaay (H)

It may sound dumb but why not go after Ronaldo, he is unhappy in Madrid and would be a money maker. Plus after this you guys really need some boost of credibility, i mean a great club doesn't get outplayed like that. Shame i hope he rotts in Madrid bench that moneyball. I truly understand why Van Basten benched him, a fury in from of the goal a tiny man in life.

I think Bayern is tailor made for Huntelaar.

Valdez + Frei > Poldi + Makaay (H)yeh, Nelson haedo is a powerhouse (6)

Our German nt players are expected to arrive on Saturday, then the team's complete. On Monday Bayern face Urawa Red Diamonds in Tokyo, we get €1,5M for that match.

Next Wednesday Bayern face the winner of Schalke vs Bremen in the League Cup semi finals. The final would be three days later.

Today in two weeks we play the season opener against Dortmund at the Allianz Arena.

']I think Bayern is tailor made for Huntelaar.

Don't think so forget about it :nape:
In England they call him the 'Phenomenon' and he told the media here that he wants to play for Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United one day but he never mentioned BM and besides. The next few seasons he is Ajax property, we payed 19m for him so guess what he's going to cost when he leaves in a few years :p

19 million? I thought the fee was about 9 million.

Ooops sorry typ-o your right it's 9 mil of course ;)

In England they call him the 'Phenomenon' and he ...

No we dont :ewan: I bet 9/10 people have never heard of him, nevermind thought up a nickname for him.

In this thread you're only allowed to talk about one Dutchman and that's Rooooy Makaay :f***: ;)

His goal rate in the preseason friendlies has been very impressive so far, let's hope he will have a better season than last year and scores at least 20 league goals.

No we dont :ewan: I bet 9/10 people have never heard of him, nevermind thought up a nickname for him.

I'm not talking about you dipstick :boohoo:
I'm talking about the journalists who were commentating on Bergkamps testimonialgame on the moment when the Hunter scored the first goal in the new Arsenal stadium. They were talking about 'the phenomenon' so shows what you know :rolleyes:

Btw I'm sure Roy will score a lot of goals this season, he had a season which was not good for his standards but he always bounces back ;)

*thinks about all the talk last season of Makaay breaking Der Bomber's record*

...and Aimar is on his way to Real Zaragoza for 11 million Euroes. Now that would have been a bargain for a quality attacking mid that's only 26. Way to miss another chance to sign a big name player and someone that could really help.

Aimar a big name player? Sure, that's why he ends up at Zaragoza and joins that other overrated Argentinian D'Alessandro.

If we had signed him we would have had three Spanish speaking South Americans for the same position, jeez. Let's give Roque and especially dos Santos a chance.

We really missed out on van der Vaart last year and the same will apply to Kompany. I saw him today and he's already head and shoulders above van Buyten, at the age of 20.

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Gol Tv is showing Bundesliga games now. They showed the German Cup matches today and I think they're showing Friday games during the season.

...and Aimar is on his way to Real Zaragoza for 11 million Euroes. Now that would have been a bargain for a quality attacking mid that's only 26. Way to miss another chance to sign a big name player and someone that could really help.

Yeah, when I saw that headline on soccernet I almost **** myself. Should have been ours. For 11 million he's worth that risk; we were prepared to pay 20 for a 30 year old striker who only works in the 6 yard box, but not for a 26 year old playmaker when we are clearly lacking one? Come on Bayern.

Yeah Kompany looked good today; strong and pretty good going forward. Nice footwork for a defender. (C)

Hey, the whole world has known about Kompany for a few years now, we only have ourselves to blame for letting him end up at Hamburg. Ditto for van der Vaart last year. We're not making good personnel decisions right now.

There's something on the collapsed RVN deal on the official site. Bayern offered as much as they were willing to spend on a 30 year old but in the end Madrid offered more.
Last Friday, after he's signed with Madrid, Ruud gave Hoeness a personal call, thanked him for the well going talks and said he needed to make a quick decision because of his pregnant wife.
In the future Bayern will only pay big amounts of money for young talented players who fully convince the board (unlike Agüero).

The problem with Bayern is that they hardly ever buy players that are not proven. They just wait and get the player once he is at his peak. :rolleyes:

In the future Bayern will only pay big amounts of money for young talented players who fully convince the board (unlike Agüero).

uh-ha, who'll convice the board? the second coming of jesus christ?

when has bayern ever taken a risk with a transfer?
I can't remember one as long as hoeness is in charge, and that,imo,is their problem.
they'll be no1 in the bundesliga with many years to come just by buying the best players the league as to offer.
but they're set to struggle on european level.

My own interpretation of those lines is that promoting young players and playing attractive football becomes more important, winning titles slightly less important. That's the official aim, it's the first time in ages that winning the Bundesliga is no obligatory and no one even mentions the CL. The fans could easily accept that, but the board has no clear direction. Then it wouldn't have made any sense to go after RVN or to buy van Buyten instead of a younger and cheaper Mertesacker.
Magath proved in Stuttgart that he can work with the youth, too bad he now lets them rot on the bench at Bayern. He says Podolski has to earn his job in the team, Rummenigge thinks he must get a guaranteed starting job no matter what.

uh-ha, who'll convice the board? the second coming of jesus christ?

Magath and Rummenigge saw that Agüero kid play a few times live in Argentina but he failed to impress during those games. And no one in their right mind would have paid friggin 22 million euros for that kid except for Atletico, no one.

when has bayern ever taken a risk with a transfer?
True. Unproven players like Karimi, dos Santos, Santa Cruz etc. all came for cheap.

they'll be no1 in the bundesliga with many years to come just by buying the best players the league as to offer. but they're set to struggle on european level.
meh, European football is more about good team play and luck than quality because of the knockout stages. Bayern's 2001 CL winning side was way poorer based on individual talent than the current one. The likes Jancker, Zickler, Jeremies, Andersson or Linke were actually important parts of the team. But together they were a great unit.
The same applies to Porto and Monaco in 2004, Liverpool in 2005 and Arsenal last season who all made it to the final of the biggest competition in club football, against superior teams on paper.

And what do you mean by struggling on European level? Bayern consistently make it out of the group stages and then, well, Milan, Chelsea and Barcelona simply have more individual class, no shame losing to them. Hardly anyone in the club expects to win the CL.

Why nobody talks about the next match against Schalke in the league cup.

I mean, its not an important competition, but you get a trophy, and one trophy more is always good . :)

Why nobody talks about the next match against Schalke in the league cup.

I mean, its not an important competition, but you get a trophy, and one trophy more is always good . :)
It will be tough to win this match though it would be nice, the winner of the League Cup receives €2M, not too bad.
The team will arrive from the Tokyo trip late Tuesday, just a few hours before the kickoff. Plus the German nt players will probably will be rested.

bayern have everything to be up there with milan,chelsea or barca.
but hell, they didn't want to pay more than 18M€ for Deco when he was 26 and one of the damn best players on the planet. Now they where willing to pay the same amount of money for RVN, who is past his prime but speaks german fluently, which seems to be one of the most important assests of bayern signing [elber,ismael,van buyten,makaay,...]. their transfer policy is a joke, they just buy "gestandene bundesliga spieler" or unproven south americans for 500k. hoeness is a somewhat smart man but he's more of a "würstelfabrikant" than a football manager, and rummenigge is one of the biggest morons in the business anyway...

Bayern finally learnt last Friday they had lost out to Real Madrid in the race to sign Netherlands and Manchester United star striker Ruud van Nistelrooy. "We're definitely not pleased, because we'd like to have completed the transfer. I'm not making any secret of that," chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge told fcbayern.de en route to the club's brief tour of Japan. "But the player himself decided for Madrid, and we have to accept that."

Club maintains strict principles

Ultimately, the potential switch foundered on the transfer fee demanded by United, general manager Uli Hoeneß explained on Sunday in Tokyo. "If we had offered what ManU wanted, the player would be ours," the board director declared, but that was more than Bayern were prepared to pay. "We'd have had to do something which goes completely against this club's philosophy."

"We did everything we could," Rummenigge reported. Bayern had in fact increased their initial offer for the Netherlands striker by almost 50 percent, Hoeneß revealed, but Madrid were prepared to top that, and thus struck the winning deal with the Manchester club.

Van Nistelrooy rings to explain

The player himself would have happily joined Bayern. The 29-year-old even rang Hoeneß last Friday evening at around half-past ten to explain his final decision. "I thought that was very commendable. He said thank you, and said it had been a very difficult decision," the Munich general manager reported, "but he felt unable to hold out and declare he still wanted a move to Bayern."

One decisive factor playing out in the background was the fact that the player's wife is heavily pregnant and will be unable to fly in just a few days. Van Nistelrooy wanted a swift decision in order to settle his final destination as fast as possible. He was unable to wait for Bayern to reconsider their position and potentially increase their offer.

Looking to the long term

That apart, Bayern were in any case not prepared to budge on their second and final offer, as the money involved in signing a player who is about to turn 30 would have contradicted the club's "long term perspective," Hoeneß remarked. "We're not interested in success for a single season. For years now, we've been working on creating a successful future."

Germany's leading club would certainly be prepared to pay substantial transfer fees if the circumstances were right. "We'll open up the club purse at some point, but only for a talented youngster we can all agree on," Hoeneß observed.

Transfer activity concluded

With the chapter headed van Nistelrooy now closed, Rummenigge confirmed the club had concluded its transfer activity ahead of the new campaign. "We'll go into the season with the squad we currently have."

The team was fully capable of attractive and successful football, the chairman insisted. Hoeneß indicated he had similarly moved on after learning of van Nistelrooy's decision. "I was angry about it for a day," the general manager explained, "but then I said to myself - life goes on."
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bayern have everything to be up there with milan,chelsea or barca.

Haha who's the corrupt billionaire controlling the club? Bayern don't have that kind of money but have to pay off the stadium in the next years, maybe even alone. That's a reason to smartly spend the money.

but hell, they didn't want to pay more than 18M€ for Deco when he was 26 and one of the damn best players on the planet.
First off, Deco never was/is not/ won't be one of the best players on the planet.
The thing was that Ballack would have been sold if Deco had come and selling Ballack was not an option in 2004.

hoeness is a somewhat smart man but he's more of a "würstelfabrikant" than a football manager, and rummenigge is one of the biggest morons in the business anyway...
Even though I don't agree with their transfer policy at times they're far from being morons. Apart from two quality midfielders the squad is good, the new stadium is beautiful and, most importantly, the club is free from debt.

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Bayern lost the friendly vs Urawa Red Diamonds 0-1 in Japan. The starting team:
Kahn - Ottl, van Buyten, Demichelis, Lahm - Hargreaves - Brazzo, dos Santos, Schweinsteiger - Makaay, Podolski

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Haha who's the corrupt billionaire controlling the club? Bayern don't have that kind of money but have to pay off the stadium in the next years, maybe even alone. That's a reason to smartly spend the money.

Well, they wouldn't even need that kind of money, they had oppurtunites to get world-class players for "cheap" [Riquelme in 2001,Deco in 2000 and 2004,Kompany and Camoranesi in 2006,etc.]

First off, Deco never was/is not/ won't be one of the best players on the planet.

Wrong. He's been Barcelona's most important player for two years now, before he was the same for Porto, and he's Portugal's most important player,too.

The thing was that Ballack would have been sold if Deco had come and selling Ballack was not an option in 2004.

Deco >> Ballack

the new stadium is beautiful and, most importantly, the club is free from debt.

I agree



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Yes, Deco is better than Ballack (although not talent wise). So what? Hargreaves too is better than him but far from being one of the best.

How much money did we get for playing that game again?...We let 'em win anyway :rockman:

€1,5M

FC Bayern: Kahn (46. Rensing) – Salihamidzic (50. Fürstner), van Buyten, Demichelis (46. Karimi), Lahm – Hargreaves, Ottl, Dos Santos (46. Scholl), Schweinsteiger – Makaay (46. Santa Cruz), Podolski

Attendance: 30.000
Goal:1:0 Okano (89.)

Yes, Deco is better than Ballack (although not talent wise). So what? Hargreaves too is better than him but far from being one of the best.

lampard,deco,ronaldinho,riquelme and kaka are the best midfielders in the world.

Take Lampard out for Gerrard, and you are right.

Ballack >> ice blu

Does someone watched today's game between Bayern and Urawa Reds on EUROSport? 1:0 for Urawa :) They lost goal in the last minute of the match and I must admit Bayern played in pretty strong squad.

i dont think bayern tried very hard. they would have thrashed them if they did. they have more important upcoming games to play.

Yeah, they have. Like upcoming match against Schalke they will play in supercup or something.

yea they must win that match, but schalke will be a tough team to beat. hows kuranyi doing there anyway? you guys think he will ever make the NT again?

Riquelme is overrated. He doesn't show up in big games.

Magath let them do stair running right before the game, no wonder they were tired in the second half. And Urawa are not a bad team either.

Karimi and Roque looked horrible out there. It's too early to rate dos Santos yet but meh, he has problems to keep up with the speed.

Hargreaves on the other hand was the best player on the pitch, very comfortbale with the ball.

I think we could see this midfield once Lucio or Ismael are back and Demichelis moves back to DM. With Pizarro's injury there's no room to try out Podolski behind the strikers.

-------- Micho ------

Brazzo --------- Schweini

-------- Owen -----------

yea they must win that match, but schalke will be a tough team to beat. hows kuranyi doing there anyway? you guys think he will ever make the NT again?
Last year he was so bad that he got booed by his own fans. (H) But of course he can make it to the nt again, he's still just 24.
Schalke have reunited the Altintop twins.

bayern have everything to be up there with milan,chelsea or barca.
but hell, they didn't want to pay more than 18M€ for Deco when he was 26 and one of the damn best players on the planet. Now they where willing to pay the same amount of money for RVN, who is past his prime but speaks german fluently, which seems to be one of the most important assests of bayern signing [elber,ismael,van buyten,makaay,...]. their transfer policy is a joke, they just buy "gestandene bundesliga spieler" or unproven south americans for 500k.

I agree with everything here (took out the last bit), but Deco is not that good. He disappears completely, and just on Barcelona there are 3 central midfielders that I would rather have. I hear people tell me all the time "oh, but he just controls the game", but I'm still baffled as to how exactly he does this when he doesn't touch the ball much and when he does he doesn't do anything remarkable with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see him riding a little bit more pine this season now that Xavi is back to full strength.

We are off topic now, but anyway.

I coincide with Nimreitz, Deco is not that great. In fact some romours stated that he was going to leave Barcelona because the club wanted to get Lampard.

Van Bommel is also another guy who is candidate for leaving Barca, Bayern wanted this guy but im not too convinced , he is not the same player he was in PSV. :nape:

We are off topic now, but anyway.

I coincide with Nimreitz, Deco is not that great. In fact some romours stated that he was going to leave Barcelona because the club wanted to get Lampard.



well if you can trade one of the best for another, why not?
I still stand by may thoughts about deco, he's been incredible for porto,portugal and barca. he'd be the ebst in his position if he was a bit more consistent.

Other thing, when Deco arrived to Barcelona, he was the second option. As Ballack was the first, but Bayern didnt want to sell him.


I do not rate Deco so high as you, but thats my opinion.

deco is ok but i dont rate him that highly either plus he dives :fool:

We're all about playing beautiful here at the Bayern thread :rockman: :lui:

well, i think it will be an interesting season for us. nobody expects anything in the Champions League, but i think that there is a bigger chance to enter the semi-finals than in the years before, because Hoeneß doesn't say that Bayern's aim is the Champions League trophy. I think that these fact is a big chance for us! It will be hard in the Bundesliga, Werder Bremen has a good squad, but i think they will beat themselves like every season (0:2 at home against Kaiserslautern in the past season i.e.)

nobody expects anything in the Champions League, but i think that there is a bigger chance to enter the semi-finals than in the years before, because Hoeneß doesn't say that Bayern's aim is the Champions League trophy. I think that these fact is a big chance for us!

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Bayern won the league cup match against Schalke in penalties. 4 -1 .

It seems Rensing had a good night.

So now its against Bremen.

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Bayern Munich - Schalke 04 0-0 (Bayern win 4-1 on penalties)

Bayern Munich: Rensing - Sagnol, Demichelis (Hummels 46), van Buyten, Lahm - Hargreaves – Salihamidzic (Scholl 70), Ottl - Schweinsteiger – Podolski (Santa Cruz 77), Makaay

Schalke 04: F. Rost – Varela (Abel 90), Bordon, Rodriguez, Kobiashvili - Hamit Altintop, Bajramovic - Özil (Boenisch 46) - Halil Altintop, Lövenkrands, Larsen (Heppke 67)

Goals: None

Penalties: 1-0 Scholl, Boenisch missed (save), 2-0 Hargreaves, Abel missed (over the bar), 3-0 Santa Cruz, 3-1 Lovenkrands, 4-1 Sagnol

Man of the Match: Owen Hargreaves

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- Sagnol is vice-captain
- Mats Hummels, a 17 year old youngster, came on for Demichelis in the second half. We played a total of six current or former Bayern youth players
- van Buyten should replace Ballack's heading abilities at set pieces, he's amazing in the air on both ends of the pitch.

All the reamining home games in 2006 are already sold out. :rockman:

Van Buyten is doing great.

Meanwhile yesterday, HSV's new defense Kompany , made a mistake that gave Bremen the victory.

:)

Kompany runs up a lot, much like Lucio, but on the goal he ran up at the wrong time.
He's still a great player.

Rensing is a great GK btw.

Bayern did really good on letting Owen go.He is as good a central midfilder as it can get. You gotta love his toughness.
Bayern has the best kit Adidas has done in years, not like that crap taplates they're using on our jersey. :nape:

Owen is really impressing me. I think we'll be fine with him filling in that center mid role, especially when he has Demichelis behind him instead of rubbish Ottl. Also, Brazzo was amazing in the first half. He won just about every tackle and looked very fresh and energized when moving forward. I think he'll be back to his best this season, making the right wing his position until Deisler is fully fit... if that ever happens.

How was Santa cruz for the brief period he played?

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First Half Highlights (http://maxclips.net/GermanLigaPokal/H1_ByrenMunchen_Schalke.wmv)

Second Half Highlights (http://maxclips.net/GermanLigaPokal/H2_ByrenMunchen_Schalke.wmv)

Penalties (http://maxclips.net/GermanLigaPokal/ByrenMunchen_Schalke_P.K.wmv)

Credits to DemmahoM from the BigSoccer.com Forums.

thx for the link with the highlights. overall i think we looked weak with a number of missed opportunites. Rensing however is looking very promising.

Ballack's new "look", ..........sportin' that "Beckham" style??

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,429975,00.html

have you been following the Chelsea / Gallas story (No-Show in Los Angeles) and Ballack gettin #13?

Fox Soccer News showed a highlight of a Dortmund/Bayer-Munich game from 2004 yesterday which showed after an alleged bad call of one of the ref's ....Kahn & Ballack were protesting and on the verge of gettin' "red Carded". If I'm correct in the date and circumstance of that game .....does someone have a link that i can re-watch it online?

Yeh i heard about the gallas bustup, good for ballack i guess, gets his number..

Magath's planning on switching to a 3-5-2 soon once Lucio and Ismael are fit again.

Lucio - van Buyten - Ismael

This means Sagnol and Lahm would play a bit more offensive minded=more crosses from the wings. I see Schweinsteiger in a more central position.

And I heard Bayern rejected Man United's €20M bid for Hargreaves during the RVN transfer talks. It seems Owen was their first choice ahead of Carrick.

Damn, perfect goal by Podolski falsely called off for offside.


Edit: 1-0 Bremen, Klasnic

2-0 :nape:
Klasnic what a start.

2-0 :nape:
Klasnic what a start.



:kader:



At keast my local team, FC Augsburg recently ascended to 2.Bundesliga is winning against VfB Stuttgart :hump:

Makaay had a chance in the first half (25th minnute?), had he pulled the trigger, but hesitated instead.

Werder Bremen - FC Bayern 2:0 (1:0)
Bayern: Kahn - Sagnol, Lucio, van Buyten, Lahm (46. Ottl) - Karimi, Hargreaves, Santa Cruz, Schweinsteiger (46. Salihamidzic) - Podolski (46. Dos Santos), Makaay

Bremen: Wiese - Owomoyela, Fahrenhorst, Naldo, Womé - Jensen (77. Andreasen), Frings, Diego, Schulz (81. Vranjes) - Klose (60. Hunt), Klasnic

Goals: 1:0 Klasnic (29.), 2:0 Klasnic (66.)

boy, that's the third game in a row without scoring a goal. Klose looked like he's at 100% again. The league's gonna be interesting this year, in fact, I'm more worried about Bremen dominating it.

This is bad. Werder and Hamburg have spent that last two seasons accumulating talent while Magath has been sitting on his hands and hoping we stay on top. Guess which strategy works better :rolleyes:

If we finish third I would not be surprised to see Magath out the door.

If we finish third I would not be surprised to see Magath out the door.


yep i see that too man, this is awful.

P.S Frings is awesome