Thats for the qualifiers, this is just a friendly.

Bad news....Silvestre has signed a new deal until 2009.

I won't mind his crosses or long balls at all, it's his concentration I'm worried about.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71629958.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19364A19ADEE617E8A8F2B60BA383110307 A3EEACD7D4BD9CE4

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I admit I was against getting him at first, but he's capable of some insane saves at times, and I'm sure he'll get us out of some tricky situations. Now for another midfielder. (6)

He reminds me of Kimi Raikkonnen.

On SSN they were saying Ferguson is expecting atleast another two signings.

good luck to Kuszczak.
newayz, one more hard man like senna or diarra and we're done

On SSN they were saying Ferguson is expecting atleast another two signings.

If that's true then I think that either Senna or Diarra + a striker will come, that would give Rossi the oppertunity to go out on loan

i dont think you guys are getting Diarra if he leaves it to Madrid, i could definatlly see you guys getting Martins

Hmmmm.... :)

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoId=109240

C.RONALDO going be ur leading scorer in everything this year :rockman:

so nuno you got a dam hot sig who is that chick on the foto with the hot ass, and about tevez i hope that we will get him because then we will have a great striker force, dont gett me wrong i like saha but he isnt constently so he cant score 20 goals or more in a season.

And with tevez coming we will have a good competition for the strikers so that will help us get few goals

diarra and tevez wud complete an excellent summer of signings.

You can say whatever you want about Silvestre, but he is a very loyal player for us, no complaining, always gives his all, he doesn't want out even after the arrival of Evra, Heinze, Vidic etc. And on his day he can be a very good defender, especially at leftback. When Rio got suspended he had a very good spell, we were even depending on him not to get injured etc


Other news: This makes sense, about spending money on players
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1406227,00.html

Yorke Rents Place Out To Ronaldo (http://www.talkmanunited.com/2006/08/12/yorke-rents-out-place-to-ronaldo/)

Legend Yorke :Bow:



Hargreaves Aware Of Interest (http://www.talkmanunited.com/2006/08/12/united-interested-in-hargreaves/)

I'd be very happy with signing Hargreaves.

i wouldn't! and that yorke story is from the sun!

what the heck if thats true...and a big IF sincei its from the sun... i salute yorkie...what a great man

what a great guy Yorke is to do that, :jambo: :Bow: owen H would be a great pickup hes a great player against portugal in the world cup he was easily england's best player

We could be making a move for Mido as back-up for Saha for 3m pounds

EDIT: Man U against Sevilla has begun, you can watch the match here (you need TVants)
http://www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat12.8/ManU_Sevilla.html

Thanks, but any radio link?

Bright start from Man U, Ronaldo is playing behind Saha and Park is on the right. It's great to see the supporters cheer on for Ronaldo

thanks can u update on how ronaldo is playing

Ronaldo almost scored after a great run by Giggs, but he missed the ball and after that Park also missed the ball

I have to be honest about O'shea, he has developed into a decent DM a they just said that he will be playing in that roll for the NT

score??

Do our third jerseys look as hideous in game as they do on display? :( And our new sponsor?

Score is 0-0, but we had good chances, Park and Giggs are MoM atm. We are playing in our home kit and there was a little fight between Heinze and Daniel Alves, they both got yellow.

HT: 0-0

who has the most possesion

I didn't see any stats, but from what I can see it is around 50-50

what do our new kits look like?

Surely you've seen them. :rolleyes:

1-0 Saha



What striker problems?

An assist from Ronaldo again

Saha 1-0 Ronaldo asstst

Did you see the skill from Ronaldo :eek:

Nah, i listen to radio, what did he do?

no i haven't seen them yet...

EDIT i mean the awaykit

Park has been unbelievable today, his workrate is immense

i always liked park....always workjed really hard!

wats da lineup?

Kojack has had a couple of good saves today, but he didn't have too much to do

Evra has been good so far this pre-season, I hope he can finally show this season how good he can be

2-0 Ronaldo, deflection off a freekick i believe

2-0 Ronaldo via Alves

3-0 David Jones

Jones 3-0!!

Ronaldo 2-0

3-0 Jones, assist Richardson

Ronaldo 2-0

A bit late on the news? :D

full time.
who was that sevilla chap claiming he'll beat united?that uefa cup 2 goal arse?
in ur face sevilla!
ronaldo looking like a regular goalscorer.
Jones can handle the midfield .i think he desreves the opportunity.

park is awesome

wtf 3-0???

A bit late on the news? :D

No kidding :D

Is Ronaldo still gonna play with Rooney in the team?

RONALDO IS REALLY ON FORM MAN.. GOTTA BUY HIM IN MY FANTASY LEAGUUE.. lOl.. GOod win.. highlights anyone? thx

Is Ronaldo still gonna play with Rooney in the team?

They don't have any problems

You wish... With what happenned in germany? i bet he tells him good night every they, doesn't he?

Sevilla just got pwned. Ronaldo played like a real man today, no diving, no complaining, plenty of skill, good end product. If he does this regularly throughout a season, he'll be contender for player of the year, no kidding.

Park looks as if he's fully settled in the team and country now, fantastic skill, fantastic workrate. Should be a solid starter in the team. Evra is looking like 10 times better since he signed. He's a true attacking fullback in every sense of the word, great skill at times, not shy to clean someone's clock with a tackle as well.

Good match.

You wish... With what happenned in germany? i bet he tells him good night every they, doesn't he?

That has been blown up by the media, if there was any problem I am sure that that would have shown, it has been quiet around them. They both have been laughing on and off the pitch

You wish... With what happenned in germany? i bet he tells him good night every they, doesn't he?

Shut up, you've obviously been living under a rock for the past month, you've no idea as to whats happened since then have you?

You wish... With what happenned in germany? i bet he tells him good night every they, doesn't he?
How would you know? You sleep in Rooney's bed every night? Ronaldo confides in you? Rooney went on TV saying theres no trouble so be quiet.

man that seville game was biit dodgy...unconvincing performance...seville passed the ball very well...3 errors from them and we scored. We didnt create that many chances but overall it was alrite. Miller has to go...hes clearly a division 1 calibre player

Jones can become a great player for us, he was fantastic for NEC last season and I think he can become fantastic for us this season

The crowd was disappointing. Probably Glazer's fault as well. Oh yeah, did anyone know that the quadrant was empty?

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71635382.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19364A19ADEE617E8A87B86C5534E1661B6 B7503B2CC65EBB18

Anyone else wonder where Saha's hands have gone?! :o:p

anyone got any highlights from todays match?

great to see ronaldo on form :lui:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=6F51521244C33B54

Highlights for today's match. :ewan:

EDIT: You guys might want to view these files in VLC media player, they need some codec but I dont know which one.

download limit reached for the file. any chance of someone uploading it somewhere else?

:rockman: Mascherano walked out of training twice this week. Oh he's soooo ours (H)

:(

(Y)

I'm hearing strong things about Tevez. Hmmm he'll do aslong as Mascherano comes with him :chew:

conrinthians have denied that they have been receiving bids for tevez....don't think i believe them....

Boss predicts big things for Kuszczak

Sir Alex Ferguson is confident Tomasz Kuszczak will mature and grow into a top goalkeeper at Old Trafford.

The United boss revealed how he had identified the Polish international as a potential transfer target last season after being impressed by his performances during West Brom's relegation battle.

"It's a real test for any young keeper to be in a team that's in that situation," explained Sir Alex. "That's when we took notice of him and our goalkeeping coach Tony Coton went to watch him quite a few times over the course of the season.

"We also feel that at 24-years-old, Tomasz's age will be to the benefit of Manchester United in the future.

"I don't think goalkeepers really mature until their mid-twenties. Peter Schmeichel was 27 when he joined us and even then we were only talking about his potential.

"There are some exceptions such as Gianluigi Buffon in Italy. But it's very unusual."

The Reds now have a wealth of goalkeeping talent on their books, although both Tim Howard and Ben Foster will spend the coming season on loan at Everton and Watford respectively.

Edwin van der Sar looks set to retain his position as United's first choice stopper, but Sir Alex insists Kuszcazk is more than capable of competing for the post.

"Tomasz is here as a live competitor for the first team spot," confirmed Sir Alex. "Of course, Edwin has been fantastic and he's an example to any young goalkeeper.

"He has great experience, presence and personality and that has been a fantastic help to us as we saw last season.

"He's the target to aim for and that will help the young keepers develop. They will all benefit enormously from having Edwin to look up to and learn from."

http://www.manutd.com/

On a side note, Kuszczak was subbed in the second period of the Seville game where Man UTD won 3-0.
Seems like Kuszczak can only get better with Man UTDs help, can't wait to see his play improvement for Poland in Euro 2008.

Father interesting...

now david jones is starting to show what a player he is. ronaldo on form like this the whole of the season would reak havoc into the defences of other teams. end of good pre-season of games. aight on transfer news, this is going to happen, fergie is going to wait till late thursday to strike a deal on diarra or hargreaves and torres or tevez, if none happen, senna is going to be a manutd player and rossi will have a season in the first team.

here are the highlights:

Ronaldo cheeky smile (http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=cr7_cheeky_smile.zip)

Ronaldo skills/ waiting for opponent to tackle (http://www.zshare.net/download/ronaldo-skills-waiting-5-seconds-zip.html)

Saha-1-0-2.3mb (http://www.x-ess.com/file.php?file=2b4318f4c8d4fb0bea2557b057a50614)

cr7-2-0-5mb (http://www.x-ess.com/file.php?file=1e4aeea9a0386be4d62d371a0a648ac5)

jones-3-0-5.5mb (http://www.x-ess.com/file.php?file=9e9dbc428fd6b64ff12e7d6949792201)

Can't view my clips? Download this codec pack and my clips should work fine
K-Lite codec pack download (http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=2035&s=42)

whats the password?

You put a password on the files?.......

its in the zip text file

Hie People.I'm relatively new here at soccergaming forums.I've been active in viewing threads for quite some time now but only lately my account has been authorised.I've been a regular at the Evo-Web community since 2003 and I decided to join soccergaming,particularly here at the Man United thread,where I will reside most of the time.Right on,enough with the intro.Its only fitting that I get started before the new season starts.

Great win for United last nite.I was expecting Sevilla to give us a real challenge but they were dull in the first half and only mediocre at best in the second.We deservedly won the game nonetheless.The team is looking good albiet a few niggling injuries to players like Neville,Rio,Carrick and Rooney.I must say that our preseason preparations have been successful.Bring on a couple of players and we should be ready for the new season.Cheers.

welcome aboard phrase

Hie People.I'm relatively new here at soccergaming forums.I've been active in viewing threads for quite some time now but only lately my account has been authorised.I've been a regular at the Evo-Web community since 2003 and I decided to join soccergaming,particularly here at the Man United thread,where I will reside most of the time.Right on,enough with the intro.Its only fitting that I get started before the new season starts.

Great win for United last nite.I was expecting Sevilla to give us a real challenge but they were dull in the first half and only mediocre at best in the second.We deservedly won the game nonetheless.The team is looking good albiet a few niggling injuries to players like Neville,Rio,Carrick and Rooney.I must say that our preseason preparations have been successful.Bring on a couple of players and we should be ready for the new season.Cheers.

Welcome :)


aight on transfer news, this is going to happen, fergie is going to wait till late thursday to strike a deal on diarra or hargreaves and torres or tevez, if none happen, senna is going to be a manutd player and rossi will have a season in the first team.

Is this a guess or what.......??

Hie People.I'm relatively new here at soccergaming forums.I've been active in viewing threads for quite some time now but only lately my account has been authorised.I've been a regular at the Evo-Web community since 2003 and I decided to join soccergaming,particularly here at the Man United thread,where I will reside most of the time.Right on,enough with the intro.Its only fitting that I get started before the new season starts.


Welcome :ewan:

Just saw the Seville match, damn Ronaldo looks in good shape.

Yeah... And I am wating to see him in action with Rooney again!

Ruud has left the club. Whatever he does that does not involve us, I'm not interested. If you want to post what Ruud does at Madrid, scoring goals, getting sent off, then do it in their thread, not ours.

Chelsea are set to make a £10m offer for Argentina and Corinthians hitman Carlos Tevez

also

Man Utd expect to complete the £4m signing of Villarreal midfielder Marcos Senna this week

thats from news of the world

Man Utd want to off-load defender Patrice Evra, just seven months after his switch from Monaco

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

Better not be wumming, or I'll spank your hairy ass.

read them on the bbc site in the papers section

Ruud has left the club. Whatever he does that does not involve us, I'm not interested. If you want to post what Ruud does at Madrid, scoring goals, getting sent off, then do it in their thread, not ours.

then dont read the post. and for god's sake discontinue ur lame posts.
one bit of news doesnt hurt anyone.

newayz ive got it off b4 u open ur mouth again.happy?

From bbc.co.uk



Gerrard dubs Ronaldo a 'disgrace'

Gerrard was unhappy at Ronaldo's gamesmanship
Steven Gerrard has branded Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo "a disgrace" for his part in Wayne Rooney's sending-off at the World Cup.

Gerrard was furious when Ronaldo got involved after Rooney appeared to stamp on Portugal defender Ricardo Carvalho.

"Sadly a dark side stains Cristiano Ronaldo's game," writes Gerrard in his autobiography, which is being serialised in the News of the World.

"His part in Wayne Rooney's dismissal was a disgrace."

The Liverpool midfielder, who was appointed vice-captain of England this week, expressed particular dissatisfaction with the wink that Ronaldo appeared to give to his team-mates on the bench after Rooney had been dismissed.


Me and the other players constantly claimed we could win the World Cup - it was stupid

Steven Gerrard

"What really [got to] all the England players was Ronaldo's wink to his bench. It was a wink which said 'job done'. How could he do that to his Manchester United team-mate?

"On the bus after the game Wayne asked me: 'What do you think about the wink?'

"I said: 'Honestly, Wazza, if we were playing Spain and [Liverpool team-mates] Xabi Alonso or Luis Garcia winked at the referee or gave a signal for me to be sent off, I'd never speak to them again.'"

When Argentine referee Horacio Elizondo halted play and then brandished a red card, Gerrard initially thought it was for a Portuguese player.

"Players like Carvalho are damaging football, not Wayne Rooney," writes Gerrard.

"It's coached into them that when an incident like that happens, they go to work on the ref.

"Ronaldo was at the front. But the blame does not just rest with him. Five or six Portuguese players were at it."

Gerrard also believes England's players' cockiness in the World Cup cost them dearly.

"We are not as good as we think we are. England were guilty of over-confidence. Me and the other players constantly claimed we could win the World Cup - it was stupid."



Good ol' Gerrard eh, making sure he says what all the English fans want to hear. Just as long as it sells his book. This remember is the same tw*t that said he'd never dive and have 'serious' words with his team mates if they dived, he even tried it against portugal for f*cks sake! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L073tGdLETo).

I'm tired of this cr*p about using Ronaldo as a scape goat, the only disgrace was the way England played and they have to just swallow their pride and say that they were sh*te, end of. If Rooney can get over it why can't this pr*ck?


Anyway, good result yesterday, but Mickey still worries me, some of those backpasses yesterday were very suspect...

Manufan_dan thats just Sunday bollocks..

Gerrard is afraid aparently..

Hypocritical scouse ****.

Manufan_dan thats just Sunday bollocks..

yeh your probably right

Gerrard rubbing salt on wounds :nape: just a way to make it even worse for us :boohoo:

the stories dead. why did gerrard have to get it up again?

f*ck gerrard, hes a cheating scouser cu*t

at least ronaldo scored in the penalty shoot out....gerrard should be ashamed of himself about how he played in the world cup....scouse t*at! i really didn't like the fact that he's started diving...

He's just bitter he didn't get the England captaincy.

then dont read the post. and for god's sake discontinue ur lame posts.
one bit of news doesnt hurt anyone.

newayz ive got it off b4 u open ur mouth again.happy?

Hoohaa. :rolleyes:

nice to see ronaldo givin that kinda performance with the ball :p

Its been a good pre-season n m beginnin to be optimistic bout the season now...lets hope we get our midfield hardman asap

lame posts lol! yeah it's a good thing he didn't get the captaincy, terry played well in the WC

Forget about Gerrard and what he said.He's just trying to divert what Jose Mourinho threw at his team.The spat between Rooney and Ronaldo is dusted now and all is well at our camp.Its fantastic because Rooney himself said on MUTV that everything has been cleared and they are so looking forward to terrorise oppositions in the coming season.Everybody especially Mourinho knows that we are a better team this season.If you wanna compare man to man between ourselves and them scousers,we still have the better squad with the execptional of maybe Gerrard himself and Xabi Alonso.We are for sure going to give Chelsea a run for their money.

full time.
who was that sevilla chap claiming he'll beat united?that uefa cup 2 goal arse?
in ur face sevilla!
ronaldo looking like a regular goalscorer.
Jones can handle the midfield .i think he desreves the opportunity.

park is awesome
It was me, and I really wasn't thinking we were gonna win against Man Utd, not because I don't think Sevilla are capable of but because it was Man Utd. presentation game and Sevilla wouldn't put much effort into it since our important game against Barcelona is soon.

oh yeah....you let us win did you?

gerrard is just mad that he missed his penalty and what like hes never dived?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L073tGdLETo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CllT_iZEblE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzawprkcHo

and haha on him saying if xabi ever did that to me i wouldnt talk to him, so if it was the world cup final vs france and cisse fouled you, you wouldnt run to the ref asking for a free kick or a card?

o and ronaldo is not the only one bitching at the ref

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sujIrfVuN-I

haha what a lame clip, Rooney has come out himself and said that he asked the ref to book CRonaldo at some point and that's one of the reasons he's not holding a grudge against him. Please stop trying to shi't stir


Sevilla game highlights without retarded passwords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBZBM1vdWPQ

quite impressed, saha looks sharp

Warning Explicit Lyrics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FyC41n42S8Y

:funny: Have any you seen this? Great song.


Lee Martin came on as a sub for us today. I didn't get to watch the game but people on one of the Gers forums said he did well and looks like a great prospect. We only managed to draw though. He has a good sense of humor too, laughing when our support was chanting 'who the **** are Man Utd?' :D

that song kinda sucks

Warning Explicit Lyrics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FyC41n42S8Y

:funny: Have any you seen this? Great song.


Yeah it's ******* awesome:

See I will,
always love the reds so much
we are the team nobody else can touch
united, i love them
they're the only team i like
the other ones are ****e
and now i'm gonna tell you how i fell

**** peter kenyon and abramovich
**** you mourinho, you son of a bitch
**** kevin keegan and **** franny lee
**** steve mcmanaman, **** man city
**** leeds united, your downand you're gay
**** norman hunter and **** eddie gray
**** everton and **** you liverpool
**** all you scousers cause manchester rule

ronaldo, van Nistelrooy
plays for the baddest team
with ferdinand and super roy keane
silvestre and ryan giggs
and we'll never leave the pack
dressed in red, white and black
we don't give a damn about no on else

**** peter kenyon and abramovich
**** you mourinho, you son of a bitch
**** kevin keegan and **** franny lee
**** steve mcmanaman, **** man city
**** arsene wenger and **** arsenal too
**** all the cockneys we ******* hate you
**** everton and **** you liverpool
**** all you scousers cause manchester rule

rule, rule, united
rule, rule, united
rule, rule, united
rule, rule, united

now i hate the scousers and i hate liverpool
the ******* ****e and united rule
and chelsea who do you think you are
Its benen 50 long years
it's gonna end in tears
you'll never be as big as man united

**** barcelona and **** real madrid
i've loved united since i was a kid
**** bayern munich and ac milan
**** deportivo and **** vasco da gama
**** kevin keegan and **** franny lee
**** steve mcmanaman **** man city
**** everton and **** you liverpool
**** all you scousers cause manchester rule

rule, rule, united(x7)

that song kinda sucks

you suck. STOP POSTING.

It was me, and I really wasn't thinking we were gonna win against Man Utd, not because I don't think Sevilla are capable of but because it was Man Utd. presentation game and Sevilla wouldn't put much effort into it since our important game against Barcelona is soon.


not u mate.
i was talking bout maresca the player dude.

Senna is already showing some sort of loyalty, happy to see a player that can't wait to play for us

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_1410161,00.html

not u mate.
i was talking bout maresca the player dude.
hehe sorry man, I had no idea Maresca said that.

you suck. STOP POSTING.


f*ck off! i'm entitled to post what i want

you can post what you want. just haven't you noticed that most of your posts go ignored?

nice, Dave Jones scored a goal :o (Y)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prcxxr4bJ3E&mode=related&search=

I know its the same dive, but the music and presentation are ace. "Once you make it out of this place, its all gravy, for the rest of yo life" (H)

nice, Dave Jones scored a goal :o (Y)
keeper probably should have saved it, a goal is a goal however.

(stating the obvious haha :nape: )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prcxxr4bJ3E&mode=related&search=

I know its the same dive, but the music and presentation are ace. "Once you make it out of this place, its all gravy, for the rest of yo life" (H)

Ace man. (Y)

haha what a lame clip, Rooney has come out himself and said that he asked the ref to book CRonaldo at some point and that's one of the reasons he's not holding a grudge against him. Please stop trying to shi't stir


Sevilla game highlights without retarded passwords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBZBM1vdWPQ

luckily i didn't put 'em on.

anyways found this on another forum, wishing this is true:
http://frank.racefreaks.nl/express.JPG

thats probably not true but boy it would be great if it did happen

yeah...i really do hope so...1 or 2 more big signings would be much better...a striker (torres/tevez) and a midfielder (diarra/senna/owen h)

anyone know what paper that's fro,m?

Sunday Express.

is it a reliable source?

No

i would love to have torres here at united but i really dont think he will be here with SAF coming out and saying he wants another nidfielder and that saha could replace ruud but that would be class if we got diarra and torres

It's time for the rumours to stop and to take action, rumours are going on for weeks now but still nothing :rolleyes:
If MU want Diarra then better act fast cause I hear that Real Madrid wants him as well :o and of course Chelski is interested but what else is new..

there is no chance of him ging to MU, because he has already said he wants to join RM, and personall terms have been agreed with him and real madrid now its just for the two clubs to agree a fee.

but that **** ( lyon preisedent) isnt going to make it easy.

Diarra is not coming even though I would like him here. Nft.

but that **** ( lyon preisedent) isnt going to make it easy.

Of course. They got nothing to lose and much to gain. Sell one midfielder and they still have a good enough central midfield pairing of Toulalan and Kallstrom to win the league.

As much as many would want to,including myself,I dont think Diarra wants to come over to OT.If that report posted above is somewhat true,I would get Fernando Torres and Marcos Senna and that should be the end of our purchase for this window.I believe we will get Senna and another forward.Sir Alex loves to buy forwards and he wouldnt want to leave the number 10 kit vacant,would he?

so is tevez completely out of the question or could he still come?

O'Shea dismisses United 'circus'

John O'Shea has laughed off "the circus" which has surrounded Manchester United team-mates Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo in recent weeks.

When Portugal winger Ronaldo played a part in helping England striker Rooney get sent off in a World Cup quarter-final, it sparked a raging debate the duo would never be able to play together again for United.

Nothing could be further from the truth as far as O'Shea is concerned as he insists there is a unified front at Old Trafford, as the club look to dethrone Chelsea as Premiership kings.

"There have been no problems between Wayne and Ronaldo," said O'Shea.

"It's actually been quite funny at times the circus that has gone on.

"Obviously, they weren't team-mates at the time, they were trying to do their best for their countries.

"But they're back now, they're team-mates again and they are looking forward to the season starting."

Far from Ronaldo being sold, as many expected - in particular with Real Madrid mentioned as a potential destination - O'Shea believes the 21-year-old will prove an asset this season.

The Irishman continued: "Look at the way he has come back into training, and with some of the goals he has scored already in pre-season.

"It's just been fantastic to see him back in action and I feel he is going to be a big player for us this season, a major threat.

"I know he has been vilified, but so have other players over the years. The club are used to dealing with it.

"He has had so much pressure on him anyway since he came to the club because of the price the club paid for him.

"But he showed at the World Cup what a talent he is, and he should have won the Young Player award."

O'Shea is concerned Rooney will become a target this season after his dismissal in the World Cup which was followed by a red card in the recent Amsterdam tournament.

O'Shea added: "It was a shocking decision.

"I couldn't believe it, and the television replays back that up a little bit. I guess it was just one of those things.

"But with his profile he is going to have to be wary because opposing teams and players are going to target him.

"But if you tell Wayne to change you are taking away half his game, and the club won't tell him to do that because he is one of the best players in the world."

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5871300



In other words "SHUT THE F*CK UP ENGLISH MEDIA EVERYTHING IS FINE BETWEEN THE 2"

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5871300



In other words "SHUT THE F*CK UP ENGLISH MEDIA EVERYTHING IS FINE BETWEEN THE 2"
Unfortunately,the words "Shut, Up, The, ****" aren't part of the English media's vocabulary. They're real slime, scum.

but think about it...lets say there is really a rift between ron n roo...do u guys think, lets say o' shea would come out and say to the public "yeah, its hell in the club right now, since they are fergie's favs, we really dont think we could win anything this season, and there will be no more signings"...right?! im not sayin there is a rift or there is not...im just stating the obvious...its public image...

Even Rooney has came out and said everythin's alrite between hiim and ronaldo... so whats up with the media and stevie G. Anyway its a dead issue as far as i m concerned.. no point bringing it up.

As for the transfers, Why arent we signing Senna...i dun understand the delay. Are we gonna wait till chelsea or other club come in and snatch him away? like how ronaldinho went to barca.

i don't think chelsea wants senna.

i think senna is a last option...maybe fergie is still trying to make a deal with other DMs and if he cant land any of them, then he might get senna...since senna is a bit old, he's 30 right?

hargreaves has issued a come-get-me plea. wonder if fergie will approach for him.

gave me a scare:
Rossi dreams of Italy return (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+return)

hargreaves has issued a come-get-me plea. wonder if fergie will approach for him.

£18M and he's all yours. :ewan:

Haha, yeah right, looks to me that we don't even have enough money for Senna...

I hear stories that Villarreal want more than double than the 4 million we were willing to pay. Somewhere within the amounts of the Ruud deal. That could explain why the deal is taking so slow. Hopefully, a deal might be reached.

Rossi to Milan :rockman:

']Rossi to Milan :rockman:


Yes maybe when hes 34. :fool:

The senna deal is stalling because he's not their first choice.


Shevchenko-[7], you should have been a Madrid fan.

haha considering Milan's stupid policy, you could be right :D


but the positive thing on your side is that he earned a call to the Italy U-21's which in a way eliminates the "tradition" that only Italian based players play for the Azzurri. This could mean he could be yours for a long time (Y)

I hate when players do this (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+return)

My dream is to come back to Italy where there is a more technical and tactical football," Rossi told Gazzetta dello Sport.

You must be joking surely :rolleyes:
The EPL is the most attractive if you ask me, I don't like Italian football :nape:
But it's nice to know that Marco was one of his idols (Y)

You know what this means right guys?
This means that if he plays a killerseason for ManUtd and scores a lot of goals that Milan will be coming for him next season :o
On the other hand if Klaas Jan Huntelaar fancies an adventure abroad next season SAF better be the one to get him, KJH is much better than Rossi that's for sure! Personally I'm hoping that he stays a few seasons more with Ajax but you never know what will happen.. that's football.

I hate when players do this (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+return)

so do i and i don't really like italian football either

How stupid of him. Make it public to the World and your employer that at some stage of your career, you're going to show him the finger.

There is always live Italian football on Sport 1 (former Canal+) on my digital TV but try to watch a whole game Italian football it's terrible. I fall asleep or I'm starting to zap halfway the game..
I would rather choose Spanish football over Italian anytime but my fav remains the EPL in Europe.

Silencer, can you stop talking about KJH as if he is some kind of God? :( Sure he's a good player, but he isn't even worldclass yet. One day he might be worldclass, but he isn't just yet. ;)

There is always live Italian football on Sport 1 (former Canal+) on my digital TV but try to watch a whole game Italian football it's terrible. I fall asleep or I'm starting to zap halfway the game..
I would rather choose Spanish football over Italian anytime but my fav remains the EPL in Europe.

totally agree,,the best part of italian football is the volience and that is the worst part of world football thats how bad italian football is

yep, but apparently italians prefer 1-0 2-0 to 3-2 and 4-1

Silencer, can you stop talking about KJH as if he is some kind of God? :( Sure he's a good player, but he isn't even worldclass yet. One day he might be worldclass, but he isn't just yet. ;)

Yeah your right of course, wishfull thinking :)

dudes, Juve's gone man. hopefully no more 1-0's and 0-0's :(

an Italian game is only boring when Juve play a small team. Believe me.

In any league, if you watch something like Aston Villa - Everton, you'd get bored. Add to the fact that the media is all about England, great talented no namers who play in the Serie A dont get noticed.

i agree i prefer watching serie a then watching EPL.

and people say italian football is too defensive i read somewhere that last season they scored more goals then la liga and epl.

I have to disagree with that though. Goals dont define attacking/defensive play.

Based on entertainment for a neutral, I'd say Spanish is the most. Mainly because defense isnt important at all there.

How stupid of him. Make it public to the World and your employer that at some stage of your career, you're going to show him the finger.

He's from Italy, what'd you expect? And that stage could be when he is 30+.

']I have to disagree with that though. Goals dont define attacking/defensive play.

Based on entertainment for a neutral, I'd say Spanish is the most. Mainly because defense isnt important at all there.
no but with capp as real madrid coach ull never kow LOL.

F*ck the FA. :kader:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/08/DisciplinaryScholesRooney.htm

I hate when players do this (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=409905&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=&title=Rossi+dreams+of+Italy+return)
The lad's just been called up to the Italian under-21 team. If an Italian journalist asks him 'do you want to play in Italy one day' then he can hardly say 'No'. Italian's pride themselves having a national team that all ply their trade back home in Italy, so if he were to say 'No', he wouldn't do his chances any good. Despite that, it sounds like they dug up some old quotations, and, if he becomes good enough during some point in his career, they can't ignore him, regardless if he plays for United or not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4796139.stm

Scholes I can accept, but Rooney? a ******* disgrace. The FA and England can go **** themselves, ****s of the highest order.

http://www.3dflags.com/media/icon/classic/p/3dflagsdotcom_portu_2fawl.gif

The way Rossi said it, it meant (at least to me) he's using Man Utd as a stepping stone to achieve bigger things elsewhere. Well, not that i care anyway.

http://www.3dflags.com/media/icon/classic/p/3dflagsdotcom_portu_2fawl.gif

:confused: :) :confused:

The FA are some of the most idiotic people on the planet, I swear to God. I hope they all die soon, I hate them I ****in hate them.

******* ****s, god how I'd love it if Rooney would retire from international football today, would be nice to see what would the ****ers do (yes, I know it won't happen). **** the FA, **** England.

More proof for us that we are always victims in the most idiotic situations, our players are getting banned because of a red card in a FRIENDLY match?!?!?! That's ridiculous!! Chelsea are tapping up 10 year old Leeds players and you don't hear anything about that.

It is clear that there are rules for us and rules for the rest of the clubs, the FA just made it difficult for us to start the title challenge from the beginning, for all we know they have already messed up our season without even beginning it

Scholes deserved the red and the ban. His conduct is always violent. Rooney was unlucky that the FA are too pussy to rescind his red. Or maybe they too thought his arm in the face was violent. Whatever way you look at it, the rules are the rules and they apply to all of us. You need to get over this stupid idea that Man U are victimised. Chelsea have been hauled over the coals on more than one occasion, and in some cases unjustified IMO, but thats the way it goes so live with it.

For the record....Chelsea have been accused of tapping up a 10 year old by Bates. That is not the same as Chelsea HAVE tapped up a 10 year old. Think before you post or next time we will sue you for libel......... :funny:

By the way, the FA have not messed up the start of your season. Your own players did that for you.

Scholes deserved the red and the ban. His conduct is always violent. Rooney was unlucky that the FA are too pussy to rescind his red. Or maybe they too thought his arm in the face was violent. Whatever way you look at it, the rules are the rules and they apply to all of us. You need to get over this stupid idea that Man U are victimised. Chelsea have been hauled over the coals on more than one occasion, and in some cases unjustified IMO, but thats the way it goes so live with it.

For the record....Chelsea have been accused of tapping up a 10 year old by Bates. That is not the same as Chelsea HAVE tapped up a 10 year old. Think before you post or next time we will sue you for libel......... :funny:

By the way, the FA have not messed up the start of your season. Your own players did that for you.

Mate how about u get your facts right,,bates accused Chelsea of tapping up 3 players Michael Woods, Tom Taiwo and Daniel Rose and they signed 2.
The other lad stayed and if u honestly beleive that chelsea didnt tap them up well thats gd for you.Can someone tell me why the investigation over cole tapping up hasnt been done yet as ashely will soon goin them and will easily know how to put the blame on arsenal as he will be in conntact with chelsea it dosent make sense and with a better Fa this could be easilly a 12 point deduction 4 players at 3 points each.

How come they both got 3 games when scholes got 2 yellows and rooney got a straight red i thought a straight red was alwas more then 2 yellows

Don't waste your breath, Pede.

The FA and everyone are against them, it's all one big conspiracy :rolleyes: :boohoo:

Scholes deserved the red and the ban. His conduct is always violent. Rooney was unlucky that the FA are too pussy to rescind his red. Or maybe they too thought his arm in the face was violent. Whatever way you look at it, the rules are the rules and they apply to all of us. You need to get over this stupid idea that Man U are victimised. Chelsea have been hauled over the coals on more than one occasion, and in some cases unjustified IMO, but thats the way it goes so live with it.

For the record....Chelsea have been accused of tapping up a 10 year old by Bates. That is not the same as Chelsea HAVE tapped up a 10 year old. Think before you post or next time we will sue you for libel......... :funny:

By the way, the FA have not messed up the start of your season. Your own players did that for you.
yes rules are rules, so should Lampards and Essien not have been sent off in the SHield? yes, but they weren't and are available for you. ******* shambles. scholes fair enough was a just red card and can have no complaints, but rooney is just plain :nape:

I can't believe they don't take that red card away.

This is what ****s me off.

“The inconsistency is embarrassing to the FA. Three years ago, two Liverpool players were sent off in the same competition and received no additional bans. So why are Manchester United different? There needs to be a radical change and no doubt the FA will now try to bolt the stable door after the horse has bolted. The FA should be supportive of players in cases like this.”

when the news was released...at the end, they said "no comment from man utd"...i think it would be sweet if before the greece game, all of the eng united players would quit the eng team...no rooney, no rio, no gary...








i know it wont happen...just what if...

The FA has shown the world how **** up they are. Seriously, they need a brain operation to fix the missing wires in their head. I am truly dissapointed. :kader:

I never expected the FA to do us any favours. They would double the ban if they could.

I would love Rooney to say he's retiring from England, but I am sure that won't happen.

Maybe SAF can give someone in the FA a boot on the head during the friendly in OT.

If I had to pick between a stupid FIFA organisation or a corrupted FA, I'd go for the former.

EDIT:

enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD3_4z94MPE

Scholes deserved the red and the ban. His conduct is always violent. Rooney was unlucky that the FA are too pussy to rescind his red. Or maybe they too thought his arm in the face was violent. Whatever way you look at it, the rules are the rules and they apply to all of us. You need to get over this stupid idea that Man U are victimised. Chelsea have been hauled over the coals on more than one occasion, and in some cases unjustified IMO, but thats the way it goes so live with it.

For the record....Chelsea have been accused of tapping up a 10 year old by Bates. That is not the same as Chelsea HAVE tapped up a 10 year old. Think before you post or next time we will sue you for libel......... :funny:

By the way, the FA have not messed up the start of your season. Your own players did that for you.


Don't waste your breath, Pede.

The FA and everyone are against them, it's all one big conspiracy :rolleyes: :boohoo:


If the rules apply to everyone then why didn't Gerrard and Mellor receive the same ban a couple of years ago for receiving red cards in the same Amsterdam Tournament? (see shokz last post for confirmation) It's clear isn't it

I don't see the logic whatsoever for our players to be banned over a meaningless friendly match. :nape:

we cant help it guys.
f*ck the FA.
its gonna be a seperate book of rules for us till the end unless the whole board of the FA changes

FA CAN SUCK MY DICK! MUTHER****ERS. ******* Arseholes, that what FA stands for!

fergie will be in the stands looking at hargreaves tonight. it cud be make or break for him.

Hargreaves wants to join United (http://www.eurosport.com/football/bundesliga/2006-2007/sport_sto945192.shtml)

diarra rules out switch to manutd. he really wants to join real madrid.it evens says on the manutd site. so its now out of hargreaves or senna and i think we will get hargreaves.

the bloody FA, fu**ing typical

id much rather hargreaves over senna...simply coz hes english....and better

no i'd rather have senna

Manufan_dan, have you actually seen Senna play?

It doesn't matter for me if we get either Senna or Hargreaves, they are both great players, but age, culture and language is on Owen's side. I couldn't care less for who we will get eventually cause they both clearly want to play for us and for that reason only I am happy that there are great players still wanting to play for us

What is great is that both players can actually tackle, something which we lack since Keane left. Honestly, I can't see the likes of Fletcher, Carrick, Ronaldo etc. getting their foot in.

What is great is that both players can actually tackle, something which we lack since Keane left. Honestly, I can't see the likes of Fletcher, Carrick, Ronaldo etc. getting their foot in.

Yeah, I agree, I think SAF has something up his sleeve, a formation change wouldn't be logical, but you never know, both players have their attributes, Senna has a great awareness and position, Owen has a lot of energy and can take great set-pieces, both players would strenghten our squad either way

Yeah, I agree, I think SAF has something up his sleeve, a formation change wouldn't be logical, but you never know, both players have their attributes, Senna has a great awareness and position, Owen has a lot of energy and can take great set-pieces, both players would strenghten our squad either way

I believe we do have money for both rather than spend a obscene sum on someone who wishes to play for Real Madrid.Very exciting days comin up before the transfer window closes.Number 10,12 and 21 are still available for grabs.

i dont expect saf to sign a player the is being linked with us in the papers i expect a young midfilder,,he is alwas on about youth and he this has been his way of buying and selling players buy young and sell when old.I expect to see a young player come in like ronaldo did no one heard of him and we were not linked with him i think the same will happen her but of course a CM and hopefully not a DM

ok maybe not

England midfielder Owen Hargreaves says he is weighing up a lucrative offer for his services from Manchester United.

The Bayern Munich man is expected to team up with Frank Lampard at the heart of The Three Lions' midfield for the friendly against Greece on Wednesday, but has domestic concerns to consider as well.

He has only just signed a contract extension with the Bundesliga giants, but has always wanted to prove himself in England.

It has now emerged that Sir Alex Ferguson has made a concrete offer for the Canadian-born player and Hargreaves is mulling over whether to make a long-awaited move to The Premiership.

"The offer from Manchester United is fantastic," Hargreaves told Sport Bild.

"Particularly as an England international, it is of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.

"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."

With the transfer deadline at the end of the month fast approaching, Ferguson had been tipped to bring in Villarreal's Marcos Senna, but the deal is thought to have stalled on the £8 million asking price for the midfielder.

The Red Devils have therefore turned to Hargreaves to join injured £18.6 million man Michael Carrick at the club.

Munich meanwhile, insist that the 25-year-old will remain at the Allianz Arena for the remainder of his contract.

"I have just spoken with [general manager] Uli Hoeness and he is absolutely clear that selling Owen Hargreaves is not an issue," Bayern press officer Markus Horwick stated.

"I think what Mr Hoeness says is enough to end any speculation.

"Owen Hargreaves will be staying with us for the remaining four years on his contract."

Having lost Michael Ballack already this summer, the German champions seem prepared to dig their heels in to hang on to the key central midfielder and United may now have to concentrate their search for a midfielder further afield.

Bayern are totally against selling him according to teamtalk, pity, id love to see him playing for Man Utd.

Even though, as a Liverpool fan, i should detest United :D

yup, they definately want to keep him
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=376034&cc=5739

I can't believe Bayern turned down 14-17 million pounds for Owen. :| But our management is a bit arrogant concerning transfers in general and the RVN saga also plays a role here.

14 -17 mil?????? is that what we offered?

I can't see Bayern keeping him any longer after he stated that he wants to play for us

I can't believe Bayern turned down 14-17 million pounds for Owen. :| But our management is a bit arrogant concerning transfers in general and the RVN saga also plays a role here.


bloody hell that is almost the same as Carrick price tag. I can't believe we offered that amount. :|

The fact that he is English, 25 years old and Bayern do not need to sell him adds to his true value.

i cant see anywhere wher eit says we bid £15m + or any amount not on any news websites or even on bayerns own page, i would have thought intially we would say about £8m and take it from there i hope we do sign himn but for aboiut £14m max

The fact that he is English, 25 years old and Bayern do not need to sell him adds to his true value.

You mean: Canadian.

He plays for England, he's English. Someone jealous? :p

Technically he's English, Canadian and German.


I know a guy that was born in Spain when his parents were on holiday there, we don't call him Spanish...

He plays for England, he's English. Someone jealous? :p

Technically he's English, Canadian and German.


I know a guy that was born in Spain when his parents were on holiday there, we don't call him Spanish...


Canadian born and raised, his parents weren't on vacation...

Edit: The only thing I am jealous of is The English Fa in comparison to the CSA... God damn we suck at getting players.

Heh i was just messing wit ya. But c'mon who is gonna choose to play for Canada over England? His family history is all English aswell iirc and i also remember him saying once that he felt like Germany was his true home.

Heh i was just messing wit ya. But c'mon who is gonna choose to play for Canada over England? His family history is all English aswell iirc and i also remember him saying once that he felt like Germany was his true home.


He could have played for either Ireland or England actually :P

And I know your just playing around the problem with our federation is we groom some of these players to play for us and then they flop out and then the players we have ignored seem to shine over sea's. Funny how that works but that is how it seems to be going with us :(

Who are your top Canadian players then? Stalteri? Radsinski? De Guzman? they're the only ones i know.


Owen could've played for Ireland? Ha that means he had the choice of 4 countries to play for :p

Who are your top Canadian players then? Stalteri? Radsinski? De Guzman? they're the only ones i know.


Owen could've played for Ireland? Ha that means he had the choice of 4 countries to play for :p

Dwayne DeRosario :rockman:

We also have a few great players playing in the championship and one of our younger players in the captain of newcastles reserve team.

Edit: Damn spelling errors

DeRosario? heard the name before but don't know anything about him at all.

Though i have heard a couple of Canadians playing in the Championship.

DeRosario? heard the name before but don't know anything about him at all.

Though i have heard a couple of Canadians playing in the Championship.

Scored the goal against Chelsea in the all-star match. He's also the best player on the Houston Dynamo :rockman:

I think Hargreaves is England, Canada and Wales...not Ireland

yeah...it was either england, wales, canada or germany

DeRosario? heard the name before but don't know anything about him at all.

Though i have heard a couple of Canadians playing in the Championship.
DDR is a good player, Houston is pretty much the only MLS team I watch, and San Jose was the only team I watched regularly before they moved to Houston.

I'd love a Hargreaves transfer, obviously Diarra doesn't want in, and between Hargreaves for 15m and Senna for 8m, I'd take Owen.

So I just bought the new United kit in the states. Wondering if some of you guys in England can tell me about the version over there. Think it is any different this time around, just like we saw with the 04-06 kits? The AIG logo is just an acrylic sticker for me, you guys? Also, some pics of the mesh under the armpits would be cool.

Hargreaves was named MoM today for England and Phil Bardsley has been loaned out to the Rangers

Hargreaves played pretty well today, he played the full 90 in the center, first with Lampard and then with Gerrard when Lamps was subbed off. Hopefully Bayern will decide that they shouldn't keep him at the club when he doesn't want to stay.

Lampard was subbed off? I thought Gerrard was.

All Hargreaves has to do now is to keep this level of play when he gets the chance to join us, he would be great for us, together with Carrick and Scholes, we can have a very dangerous and creative midfield

damn, Hargreaves is the perfect hardworking hardhitting tackling central midfielder we need... lets hope he convinces Bayern to sell :(

hargreves is a good player but lets face it before the WC most english fans didnt like him he has played 3 good games for england and a steady performer at munich and u guys go on as if he is gods gift to us

Bayern can't sell him at this time of the season.

1. There are no decent replacements available and if they let Owen go without buying a big name player our general manager's gonna get lynched.
2. Like I mentioned earlier, the RVN saga plays a big role here. Bayern would have accepted a Ruud + cash for Owen deal, Man United wanted the cash to go the other way.

Hopefully Bayern will decide that they shouldn't keep him at the club when he doesn't want to stay.
You know professional footballers these days. Raise his wages, give him a guaranteed starting spot and all of a sudden he's the happiest man on earth again. :rolleyes:

He's just signed a new contract, maybe he should have thought about that earlier. It's the first time in his six-year spell at Bayern that he will be a starter and more than just a role player.


Bayern general manager Uli Hoeneß has quashed speculation that Owen Hargreaves could be leaving Bayern for the English Premiership, despite the 25-year-old's revelation that he is considering a "fantastic" offer from Manchester United.

"We're not interested. Owen has a contract until 2010 and he will see it out. The issue is closed," Hoeneß declared on Wednesday afternoon.
taken from the official site

:( I've always been a fan of Hargreaves since he first appeared in the England setup, although he never really got much of a chance i always admired his determination to always give everything. He would be so perfect for us it's unbelievable :(

How about we give you Jones, Miller, Rossi and whoever else you want on loan? :p

Umm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4794867.stm

One Hargreaves tackle on the edge of his area was outstanding and his man of the match display woud have further impressed Manchester United, who are reportedly ready to pay £30m to sign him

That's a typo, right?

Lol! £30m?! Obviously... Someone's told the web editor to write £13m and they've thought they said 30...

30 million pounds for Hargreaves :rofl:

Umm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4794867.stm



That's a typo, right?



Holy Crap I'll give him the ride to the airport if that's true!! I hope Uli Hoeness isn't that arrogant and decides to say NO. :| We can buy atleast 3 players that are good+.



p.s. I think it's a typo. :(

Umm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4794867.stm



That's a typo, right?


yep it has to be or they are just talkin :sb9: as torres,mascherano and tevez price wasnt that high so that is just crap or maybe SAF has a plain to make the glazers to run as far away from old trafford as possible

Heh i was just messing wit ya. But c'mon who is gonna choose to play for Canada over England? His family history is all English aswell iirc and i also remember him saying once that he felt like Germany was his true home.
We have the same problem with de Guzman's younger brother Jonathan. He's lived in Holland and played for Feyenoord since he was 12 and once he earns Dutch citizenship he's eligible to play for them. Lots of our good young players could play for another country, if I was good enough I could play for Scotland as my mom was born there.


Rangers have taken Manchester United defender Phil Bardsley on loan until the end of the year.

The 21-year-old right-back joins Old Trafford team-mate Lee Martin, who made a similar switch to Ibrox last week.

Bardsley spent the end of last season on loan at Burnley and featured in United's pre-season friendlies against Celtic, Porto and Seville.

He made his United debut in December 2003 and has featured 17 times for the first team.
Finally some competition for Hutton. How good is Bardsley at getting forward?

Price of these players is ridiculous. Hargreaves and Carrick were worth 7 or 8 million tops before the world cup, a few good games later and they're going for 14 million.

I wouldn't pay it. Fergie and his scouts need to earn their wages and find some good unknown talent from abroad. I'm all for keeping an English feel to the team, but not at these prices.

How much did Sissoko cost the dippers and Rosicky for Arse? Nuff said?

It was a bit different with Rosicky, Dortmund are in a little financial trouble, whereas Spurs and Bayern aren't.

Who's gonna be our deputy right back?

Who's gonna be our deputy right back?

O'shea

brown can do the job to when call upon...as vidic is there to be rio's partner

I desperetly want to see Hargreaves play in the Premierleague, so we see a lot more of his heroic performances (like tonight). If it has to be Man United then so be it. Cool.

Umm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4794867.stm



That's a typo, right?
Yeah it is, they changed the number, so it's 13 million pounds now

We have the same problem with de Guzman's younger brother Jonathan. He's lived in Holland and played for Feyenoord since he was 12 and once he earns Dutch citizenship he's eligible to play for them. Lots of our good young players could play for another country, if I was good enough I could play for Scotland as my mom was born there.



Finally some competition for Hutton. How good is Bardsley at getting forward?
He's pretty good at overlapping. He puts in some good crosses, but his strongpoint is defending for sure, he's a tough guy.

Lampard was subbed off? I thought Gerrard was.
Yeah you're right, my error there.

On the topic of the England match, I remember a while ago (maybe on this site) people wanted us to put in a bid for Downing. Anyone interested?

Definetley. If he's half as good as he is in FM2006 :$ then he'd be a great asset.

hargreaves (Y) he has been ace everytime hes on the field lately.

hargreaves (Y) he has been ace everytime hes on the field lately.
Because he has been getting played in his proper position, not as a utility man.

Ole played one half yesterday when Norway played against Brasil (1 - 1)
i was impressed!
showed that he has no fear about his knee,tackling hard and winning the ball.
he also had a overhead kick that went outside by inch'es!
i am sure he will be doing good for united this season!

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1155766529270_781.jpg


BTW:
Brasil have never beaten Norway!
:jap:

i remember in the last season manutd thread when fergie said that he wud sign 2 topclass players sum1 said it wud be hargreaves and kevin kuyrani and back then hargreaves wasn't liked but now he is our top target for dm. heh how times have changed.

anyways i heard valencia are making a move for senna. manutd has made an offer to owen and he likes it and now its down to the 2 clubs to work out the transfer fee. bayern want the carrick fee for him which is 18mill pounds. also brescia are ready to take rossi out on loan, if fergie signs a striker. all will be revealed on friday.

ole hopefully can stand up in the games rooney is banned in.

edit:
"Reports in Germany suggest that Bayern may accept an offer of around £17m. While that seems an inordinately high fee, United have already set a precedent by paying up to £18.6m for Michael Carrick, Hargreaves' understudy at the World Cup" - The Guardian

If thats true, Jesus Christ. Good player like but £17m worth, absolutely no chance

edit 2:
guess who it is from :
£13m Owen signs for Utd
By JOHN KAY

OWEN HARGREAVES will sign for Manchester United today.


The England midfielder is set to be unveiled at Old Trafford after agreeing a dream £13million move.

Hargreaves, 25, got his wish after revealing United manager Alex Ferguson had made him an offer he could not refuse.

And the Canadian-born star pleaded with his club to agree a deal and allow him to move to Old Trafford.

Hargreaves, who starred in last night’s 4-0 win over Greece, said: “The offer from Manchester United is fantastic.

“Particularly as an England player because you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.”

Bundesliga champions Bayern Munich insisted they did not want to lose Hargreaves and initially demanded £17million while United only offered £12m.

But once the player signalled his intentions to leave, the two clubs thrashed out a compromise figure.

Hargreaves is the defensive midfielder Fergie has been searching for.

The United boss switched his attentions to the England star after his World Cup heroics when Hargreaves was the only one of Sven Goran Eriksson’s squad to emerge from the finals with any credit.





















the sun

the sun


Well, even they get it right occasionally! I still think Senna's more realistic though.



Mike

"The pressure on Ronaldo will end soon. He will start playing, will have a good game and make a pass for Rooney to score a goal. They will hug, make nice photos and it will finish it off," Mourinho added.

pahahahaha :D

hahahahaha :D

and now after we presumably getting hargreaves we are about to sign huntelaar. the sun is just beautiful.

and now after we presumably getting hargreaves we are about to sign huntelaar. the sun is just beautiful.

Klaas Jan Huntelaar would be the perfect replacement for Ruud.It will never happen now but we can never predict the future...I'm glad that Hargreaves is close to joining us...The two top english midfield prospects in our ranks and this can only make us better.

Hargreaves' agent said the Sun article is a load of bs.

And these quotes don't sound like he would go on strike or something.

"Obviously I'm still a Bayern Munich player," he told Sky Sports News after starring for England in the 4-0 win over Greece.

"There's a lot been said but what will happen in the future I don't really know myself.

"A lot has been said on the transfer front, some of it true, some of it not, and I'd rather leave it at that and see how things develop.

"I cannot go into specifics but we will see how things pan out over the next few days."

It was a bit different with Rosicky, Dortmund are in a little financial trouble, whereas Spurs and Bayern aren't.


Still look what West Brom were demanding for Curtis Davies, we have a defender that from Ghana on trial thats played in the world cup we could get him for 500k compared too 10 million pounds, prices for English players are rediculous

As much as i would like to see Owen at Man Utd, i just can't see the move happening soon. It's a pity, only English players have such ridiculous prices hanging over their head.

Joaquin Wants Out (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1778_1419705,00.html)

Any thoughts? If he could get his consistency sorted he's an incredible right winger, perhaps push Ronaldo to the left and Joaquin on the right? On-form that would be incredible. I remember the England - Spain game where he completely skinned Ashley Cole over and over.

I was watching A Decade Of Great Goals on a channel and he scored a great curling shot from outside the penalty box. Reminded me how good actually the lad was.

http://www.soccernet.com/images/england/ffc/saha_pc150x200.jpg

Still look what West Brom were demanding for Curtis Davies, we have a defender that from Ghana on trial thats played in the world cup we could get him for 500k compared too 10 million pounds, prices for English players are rediculous

The next Wenger star (Y)(H)

And I was just about to get excited about Djourou

I was watching A Decade Of Great Goals on a channel and he scored a great curling shot from outside the penalty box. Reminded me how good actually the lad was.

http://www.soccernet.com/images/england/ffc/saha_pc150x200.jpg

To be honest I was really satisfied when we signed Louis Saha back then.He was the perfect foil for Ruud until Rooney came along.He was a hungry striker back then for Fulham,pacy,aggressive,superb in the air and is both legged.We can still see it today in him although not at full impact.Injuries always change how players play and a lot of top players has suffered because of that.I hope Louis will have a great season with us,ahead.

Someone should update this on the first page. :ewan:

Van der Sar is United No.1

Edwin van der Sar will officially be United's number one goalkeeper next season, after the Reds confirmed the team's squad numbers for the new Premiership season.

Van der Sar, previously No.19, takes the jersey occupied last term by Tim Howard, who will be spending the season on loan with Everton.

Italian teenage striker Giuseppe Rossi is expected to be a much more prominent figure following the departure of Ruud van Nistelrooy, who's No.10 shirt will be vacant this season. Rossi will wear the No.19 shirt.

Other additions or changes include Tomasz Kuszczak (29), David Jones (25) and Michael Carrick, who, of course, wears Roy Keane's old No.16 shirt number.

Premiership 2006/07 Squad Numbers:

1. Van der Sar
2. Neville
3. Evra
4. Heinze
5. Ferdinand
6. Brown
7. Ronaldo
8. Rooney
9. Saha
11. Giggs
13. Park
14. Smith
15. Vidic
16. Carrick
17. Miller
18. Scholes
19. Rossi
20. Solskjaer
22. O'Shea
23. Richardson
24. Fletcher
25. D.Jones
27. Silvestre
29. Kuszczak
33. Eagles
38. Heaton
49. R.Jones

Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB0 69%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=355757)

Stotty :jambo:

F*** em squad numbers. (H)

I might be getting a Man Utd away shirt with number 19 at the back now that Rossi is gonna wear it. :rockman: