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Associazione Calcio Milan

STADIUM
San Siro

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SQUAD

1. Nelson DIDA
2. Marcos Evangelista CAFU
3. Paolo MALDINI (Il Capitano)
4. Kakhaber KALADZE
5. Alessandro COSTACURTA
8. Gennaro Ivan Gattuso
9. Filippo INZAGHI
11. Alberto GILARDINO
12. Valerio FIORI
13. Alessandro NESTA
14. Johann VOGEL
16. Zeljko KALAC
17. Dario SIMIC
18. Marek JANKULOVSKI
19. Lino MARZORATTI
20. Clarence SEEDORF
21. Andrea PIRLO
22. Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite KAKÁ
23. Massimo AMBROSINI
24. Matteo ARDEMAGNI
27. Sergio Claudio dos Santos SERGINHO
37. Marcio AMOROSO

Coach : Carlo ANCELOTTI


HONOURS :

Titolo Nazionale
1901/02
1906/07
1907/08

Scudetto
1950/51 1954/55 1956/57
1961/62 1958/59 1967/68
1978/79 1987/88 1991/92
1992/93 1993/94 1995/96
1998/99 2003/04

European Cup
1962/63
1968/69
1988/89
1989/90
1993/94
2002/03

Coppa Italia
1966/67
1976/77
1971/72
1972/73
2002/03

European Super Cup
1989
1990
1995
2003

Intercontinental Cup
1969
1989
1990

Italian Super Cup
1989
1992
1993
1994
2004


TRANSFERS 2006/2007

IN :

Yoann Gourcuff (Rennes) €3m
Giuseppe Favalli (Inter Milan) Free
Pasquale Foggia (Ascoli) Return from loan

OUT

Jaap Stam (Ajax) Free
Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea) €65m

FIXTURES 2006/2007 :

Let's get started. Hopefully not in Serie B.

Serie B could be more interesting than Serie A next season, Napoli and Genoa both came up, Lazio, Fiorentina, Juventus, Milan, Verona, Bari, Bologna...

Forza Brigate Rossonere per sempre in A o per sempre in D, Milan alé!

I just added the transfers,will continue to update. Too lazy to check on more.. Haha

Just funny how we cant manage to sign a young defender for our lives up to now. We want to improve our defense, but we only sign old farts. (:/)

You forgot an important player in the OUT section.

We talking central? I dont think anyone is needed at the moment as Kaladze-Nesta is doing super.

I wonder what happened to the Diego Lugano rumours though? Died off just like that.

LB we are good and at RB the latest linked is Miguel of Valencia. Apparently Dario Simic has told the media that he was going on loan to Fiorentina because Miguel has already been bought to replace Cafu.

The other strong candidate, is Massimo Oddo.




Other news, the trial verdict looks to have been decided. It will be announced on Monday. Im worried as hell. Whatever it is, Gilardino and Gattuso have committed to us no matter what happens. Unless of course, their wives somehow decided that they wanted to learn a new language..

Indeed he did hehe. My friend loves European Football and she told me Kaká said he wont stay if we get relegated aswell. Dont know if that's true, but if it is, it's really dissapointing.

come on guys!

hint: Chelsea

Meh... :$

haha I honestly forgot :D

thats a good sign (H)

added Pasquale Foggia to the IN section. I think Boban called him as a future Italian star. He's 21 I think. A winger who supposedly (I didnt watch :$) made a fool out of Zambrotta when they dueled.

Gonna be interesting to see how Carlo plays a winger in the team (Y)

http://www.lagigiotta.it/public/tecnici/rokko/immagini/foggia.jpg

']We talking central? I dont think anyone is needed at the moment as Kaladze-Nesta is doing super.

I wonder what happened to the Diego Lugano rumours though? Died off just like that.

LB we are good and at RB the latest linked is Miguel of Valencia. Apparently Dario Simic has told the media that he was going on loan to Fiorentina because Miguel has already been bought to replace Cafu.

The other strong candidate, is Massimo Oddo.




Other news, the trial verdict looks to have been decided. It will be announced on Monday. Im worried as hell. Whatever it is, Gilardino and Gattuso have committed to us no matter what happens. Unless of course, their wives somehow decided that they wanted to learn a new language..

Great player Miguel, it would be great to have him in the team.

Miguel would be great at RB, easy the best RB of the World Cup (Y)

Foggia's most likely on the bench/reserves, that's easy to figure out. and Kaka said he won't play in Serie B.

Kaká didnt say he wont play in B, man. He said "I'll stay in Milan for sure in A, but even in B, we'll see".

I think he'll go anyway, but he didnt rule it out. Why would he sign a contract just two weeks or so ago then..?

You forgot an important player in the OUT section.

deaaammmmn

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(H)

']Kaká didnt say he wont play in B, man. He said "I'll stay in Milan for sure in A, but even in B, we'll see".

I think he'll go anyway, but he didnt rule it out. Why would he sign a contract just two weeks or so ago then..?

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=401354&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=8&title=Kaka+won't+accept+Serie+B

If we'd go to B this will be our team :


-------------Abbiati--------------

Simic----Costacurta----Maldini---Favalli

---Brocchi----Foggia-----Gattuso

------------Gourcuff------------------

-----Gilardino--------Inzaghi-----------

Reserves : Serginho, Fiori, and the best primavera players.

The players above are either too old to be sold, told the media they'll stay with us no matter what or are the players that have contracts with no escape clauses in case of demotion (officialy)

On the bright side, Pallazi the prosecutor demanded the "lightest" penalty against Milan compared to the other three clubs, so if someone is going to remain in A we have the biggest chance, I would forget about CL football this season though.

Then once this trial is over, which was a speed trial due to the FIGC needing to communicate the list of UEFA and CL italian clubs to the European federation before July 27th, there will be another trial involving Siena, Messina and several Serie B clubs on the same charges of match fixing.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=401354&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=8&title=Kaka+won't+accept+Serie+B

that was a mistranslation, man. I read that news days ago in another site. come on man, ur following news on Milan on that site? :(

they all assume Milan are already gone..

btw, Stephan, you gonna post here often? Good. I cant depend on rony and grunge. Those bastards never post :kader:

coming from the guy who always manages to mysteriously disappear after a bad Milan loss. besides, I've been busy all summer, and my future as a Milan fan is seriously up in the air right now :(

dude Ive done that like once, the 4-0 :(

meh, just cause Sheva leaves you aint gonna support Milan nemore? :( Man, come on....

it's not because of Sheva. I'm basically just sick of Italian football in general, too corrupt. and Milan are in the middle of all the corruption as well (N)

you are following the case through the English media, who know bull about the whole thing.

how are we corrupt? tell me what you understand of the case? I can explain further.

I started supporting Milan back when they were in Serie B :) The new Milan fans are used to win and cry their eyes out if we don't win silverware in 2 years, pathetic.

In a way I hope we go back to Serie B, to seperate the men from the boys :D bye bye gloryhunters, I hear Chelsea has still some room...:ewan:

And no we are not corrupt, or else the whole football world is, including the Fifa, UEFA and every other football federation in the world. I can come up with examples of blatant match fixings dating back from 1982 world cup in Spain till today, if needed with images and the whole chabang and only the fanatics or blind would deny there would be no cheating pattern.

Besides, if we are corrupt our system sucks monkey balls, we would have a lot more silverware in the closet right now and not be without anything for 2 years :)

Milan needs the real fans and players now, the ones that have red & black hearts, the rest may dispose.

jesus, you guys are in meltdown and there hasnt even been a decision handed out. Loan your best players for one season, recall them next year, and youre back where you started, except everyone is a year older

get real. why would top class players simply want to "go on loan". Its impossible.

Im quite confident that we arent gonna get relegated. But that shows Im really not prepared for it if it happens.. :(


Some transfer news..

Massimo Donati looks to be back at Milan. The lad looks good. Was with us in the 2001/02 campaign and played a few games. I guess he's mature now. At 186 cm, I think he can be the "wall" we've been lacking for so long. Another to add if we go to B, I guess..

']get real. why would top class players simply want to "go on loan". Its impossible.
This coming from the guy who so confidently trupets that Kaka will be loaned out to Lyon in the coming weeks. Nice to see your confidence has evaporated and reality has set in

If your players really care about the club, and id say most of them do, then im sure its a price they would willingly pay. Its a good think your defense is older than dirt, because losing them doesnt kill you all that much.

heh, I love how I'm dubbed a glory hunter because I don't want to support a team that hasn't won anything in 2 years. dudes, I'd support Milan more if they were **** and got relegated to Serie B (through the league, not through punishment) than if they were to be found innocent and be rewarded the Scudetti for the last 2 seasons. it's not about the silverware. seriously I don't know how to explain it. leave me alone, assfaces :(

Yeah, the Lyon thing was just to piss them Madridistas. haha. I dont want to think about anything. Lets just wait till Monday..

Rony, im with you brother. I often feel VERY conflicted by the actions of the "new Chelsea". Tapping up, playing on the edge of the rules, the diving, etc. Just because we are winning everything in sight it doesnt excuse actions by my club and especially by Jose alot of times that I have to hang my head in shame over. I know too its extremely tough to see your club, who you know is good enough to win on calss and talent alone, have to resort to underhanded crap. Match fixing is a little different than mind games and simulation, but still

I find it funny how with alot of Chesea's "new" fans that come along, they attempt to be the most rabid and dogmatic. They will follow anything the club does blindly and scream "fu*k em all" when we are slagged by other fans and the media. You know I often argue against both of those, but dont forget it takes a real principled fan, one who you could say holds the badge to a higher degree of reverance than most, to feel so conflicted when it becomes tarnished.

Be strong dude, this too will pass

']btw, Stephan, you gonna post here often? Good. I cant depend on rony and grunge. Those bastards never post :kader:

Lies. On the Kaká subject, well, he wont play in Serie B huh? Then we can loan him to some club and get him back once we gain promotion. I'm against it though. You either stay on the good and bad times, or you wont stay at all. Not playing for us in Serie B is running from the bad ones.

This has been my team since 1989, i would stay with the club until the end, it doesnt matter if it is on seria A or B.

Kaká posted this on his blog

Minha vida, meu amor!

Amigos,

Hoje, tenho uma boa notícia para os meus fãs do Milan e tenho certeza de que também é para todos os que gostam de mim. Renovei meu contrato com o clube até 2011.
Isso me deixa muito feliz, pois é um clube que me recebeu muito bem e que eu aprendi a amar. Estou feliz em Milão, tenho um grande carinho pela torcida e ela por mim. Não conseguiria nesse momento ficar sem ouvir o San siro gritar meu nome.
Toda a negociação foi feita por meu pai e isso garantiu meu foco total e minha concentração na seleção. Sei que todos estão muito felizes e curiosos, mas eu só vou falar sobre meu dia de folga e sobre a grande vitória de ontem mais tarde.

Obrigado pela torcida e um grande abraço!!!!

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Home/0,,6084,0.html


Translation

My Life, My Love!

Friends,

Today I have good news for my Milan fans and I'm sure also for everyone who likes me. I've renewed my contract with the club until 2011.

That makes me very happy, as it's a club that welcomed me and that I have learned to love. I'm happy in Milano, I have great affection for the fans and they feel the same for me. At this moment I couldn't give up listening to the San Siro screaming my name.

The whole negotiation was made by my father and that allowed me to focus totally on the National Team. I know that everyone is happy and curious, but I'll only talk about my day off and about yesterday's great victory later.

Thanks for the support and a big hug!!!!



I dont think he is leaving. Words like these are gold at these times. But remember the certain English student..? Meh..

Rony, im with you brother. I often feel VERY conflicted by the actions of the "new Chelsea". Tapping up, playing on the edge of the rules, the diving, etc. Just because we are winning everything in sight it doesnt excuse actions by my club and especially by Jose alot of times that I have to hang my head in shame over. I know too its extremely tough to see your club, who you know is good enough to win on calss and talent alone, have to resort to underhanded crap. Match fixing is a little different than mind games and simulation, but still

I find it funny how with alot of Chesea's "new" fans that come along, they attempt to be the most rabid and dogmatic. They will follow anything the club does blindly and scream "fu*k em all" when we are slagged by other fans and the media. You know I often argue against both of those, but dont forget it takes a real principled fan, one who you could say holds the badge to a higher degree of reverance than most, to feel so conflicted when it becomes tarnished.

Be strong dude, this too will pass


Wow, that is one really great post man. I am Madridista since 3 years ago, when I "discovered" European football... yes... the very same 3 years we have been silverless. Yet, during the 3 years I have learned to laugh and cry Madrid, and I have worn my jersey both when we beat Barca 4-2 and also when we lost 'em 3-0.

This phenomenon you talk about is pretty clear in my college in Mexico. Throughout the season, during important CL matches, everyone wears football jerseys. 4 years ago (when Madrid used to rule the world guided by Del Bosque), every CL match was white.

But now, what has happened now??? All is blue and red. Both Barca and Chelsea. For the "new" fans (the question is intrascendent for the old), where were you 5 years ago, when the Russian hadn't arrived? Also applies to Barca "new" fans... weren't you used to wear Madrid's white jersey at Barca's darkest our??? (Indeed it was dark, that van Gaal dude was... (fill the blank))...

Even though it is the most undesirable situation for any fan, it opens a window to see who is up to the challenge. To see who will continue buying season tickets even though those tickets are for Serie B matches. This "pouring" (if well written) phenomenon is remarkable and you guys, true Milanistas and Juventinos should be proud of being so, for the true fan true glory isn't the silverware per se, but the road to it. The road will be hard, but I'm pretty sure that 4/5 years max you'll be back in Europe's elite football.

Congratulations you all TRUE fans.

I know what you mean dude. With European supporters in the New World and im sure in Asia, football blows whichever way the wind blows. I cant tell you the number of people ive gone up to in a footy kit to ask about their love for whatever team and they just stare blankly and say something like "oh yeah, Ronaldinho is so sick, dude". You know instantly they dont even care about football

When I was young, this is how I was. People asked which club I liked and I said Chelsea. I didnt know much except the games I had seen as a kid, a few players and what the shirt looked like. But when you begin to really care about a club, nothing else matters on saturday morning but that result. It will make or break your weekend. Its little things like this that not many people can relate to over here, the fact that the passion of a club is a hobby unlike any other, that make me treasure football and my club.

im sure EVERY non European can relate to this

When I was young, this is how I was. People asked which club I liked and I said <fill in your club>. I didnt know much except the games I had seen as a kid, a few players and what the shirt looked like. But when you begin to really care about a club, nothing else matters on saturday morning but that result. It will make or break your weekend. Its little things like this that not many people can relate to over here, the fact that the passion of a club is a hobby unlike any other, that make me treasure football and my club.

This is incredibly well written. It describes exactly the feelings of a true club fan. One should stand by his club in good but especialy in bad times. You can compare it to life itself, when you're successful and handsome, you have many many friends. But when you're broke and average looking you can count your friends on one hand, but be sure that those friends are faithfull and those you can trust.

Concerning the rossoneri and the other trialed clubs I expect the sentence not to be as harsh as to meet the request of the prosecutor, I expect to contend for the title in Serie A again next year (if the point deduction penalty isn't too big that is), let's keep our fingers crossed, the first sentence is due this monday or tuesday normaly, then there will be possibility for one appeal.

I think the penalty will be quite harsh.
It will be a show of force, to show that they are serious on the issue.
Failure to act and their credibility is shot. The Italian football scene is tarnished enough as it is, they cannot afford to be shown as weak to act.

And its probably one of the rare times where they can hit both Juventus and Milan in one go, so they won't be accused of favouritism.

I hope I am wrong (well except we need some players :P) ... because Serie A and CL will be poorer for the lack of Milan and Juventus.

Good Luck!

I think the penalty will be quite harsh.
It will be a show of force, to show that they are serious on the issue.
Failure to act and their credibility is shot. The Italian football scene is tarnished enough as it is, they cannot afford to be shown as weak to act.

And its probably one of the rare times where they can hit both Juventus and Milan in one go, so they won't be accused of favouritism.

I hope I am wrong (well except we need some players :P) ... because Serie A and CL will be poorer for the lack of Milan and Juventus.

Good Luck!

If Italy brings the cup back home, it will influence the verdicts in a positive way, if France wins it might just be the contrary.

I think Juventus will be the "sacrificial scapegoat" as they have the most "evidence" or "feelings of possible guilt" against them, and of course Moggi not showing up in court doesn't help, so to make the example you refer to I think they will verdict them to go to Serie C in the first verdict, which will later be diminished to Serie B with point deductions in appeal.

Lazio and Fiorentina will face a Serie B verdict in the first verdict but will recieve Serie A + points penalisation in appeal.

As for Milan where they have the least "evidence" against, we are talking ONE phonecall on 49,000 recorded ones!

This phonecall goes out from Meani (the Milan referee contact) to a linesman taking one minute and 45 seconds total where Meani accuses the referees to disadvantage Milan vs. Juventus and he requests "better" linesmen to be assigned for future matches because Galliani is severely pissed of with the Siena-Milan result, a match were a perfect valid Sheva goal was annulated for imaginary off side and Siena scores two on blatant offsides (the "better" part is subject to interpretation and is what all the fuzz is about)

He also says he can get Galliani to offer a hair transplant to the linesman he is talking withon the phone (this, according to Meani, is a joke with the linesman they know each other over 20 years, and if you know Galliani or have seen his pic, you'll know that he is the one that could use a hair transplant, however the court could take this joke as an "offer of payment" to assign "better" linesmen to Milan)

I see Milan remaining in Seria A but with a hefty point deduction and no CL or UEFA qualification in the first verdict, in appeal I see them being qualified for at least UEFA cup football or the preliminary stages of the CL.

We'll see, let's hope the Azurri win now, else the judges will be in a (very) bad mood...

K Italy won the cup, it will influence the judges somehow, sending World Champions to Serie B or C won't be appreciated I think.

BTW, RAI teletext says the judgement will be delivered wednesday. Appeals should be filed before the next monday.

The verdicts are out latest on Wednesday.. Ahhh. I cant stand waiting anymore..


Latest rumour is Buffon. I am convinced if Juve are relegated and we stay up, he along with Zambrotta will come to us, no matter what the Spanish press claim.

What I, in a way, hope happens is that we help Juve out similiarly to how we helped Fiorentina a few years ago. Maybe we can do the loan thing and all.

Basically the Juve team now is not at fault, it was all Moggi. Its really unfair to the players and fans.

i surely hope that ac milan is not relegated. I just love milan. they are 1 of the best of the best in europe.

This is incredibly well written. It describes exactly the feelings of a true club fan. One should stand by his club in good but especialy in bad times. You can compare it to life itself, when you're successful and handsome, you have many many friends. But when you're broke and average looking you can count your friends on one hand, but be sure that those friends are faithfull and those you can trust.
Cheers man, that is the perfect analogy. And I am broke and average looking so I know all about it :$


I really really really am pulling for you guys on wedensday. I know match fixing is dead wrong and should be punished. But to me, Milan is the class of European football. Yeah, youre a dozen scudetti short, but six champions league trophies and a litany of great and beloved players speak for themselves. Nordhal, VanBasten, Rijkaard, Baresi, Maldini, and I wish Shevchenko couldve joined their company. To me, the purity and joy of football is expressed in watching Pirlo run to the corner flag after a goal and be greeted by flares, flags and fans running to the fence in the North Curve. When I see a night game in the San Siro, it feels like a million people are there. Its really just magical/ Your support and players are tremendous, and eventhough your owner is a realy scallywag, you guys will be back on top far sooner than you think thanks to those things that really matter

And yeah, I know Madrid have more everything, but only Madridistas like Madrid. I have as much respect and love for Milan as any neutral can

Edit:
i surely hope that ac milan is not relegated. I just love milan. they are 1 of the best of the best in europe.
yeah, what he said

great and beloved players speak for themselves. Nordhal, VanBasten, Rijkaard, Baresi, Maldini, and I wish Shevchenko couldve joined their company.

almost all the interviews I've read regarding Sheva, he mentions how he still loves Milan.. why Sheva, why did you leave................... :(:(:(

well sheva left for purely family reasons. he wants his son to learn english and go to an english school.

thats a stupid reason. thats unacceptable. I dont believe one bit of that. you dont have to be in London to learn English..

well tahts what he said to the media in a interview!!

']thats a stupid reason. thats unacceptable. I dont believe one bit of that. you dont have to be in London to learn English..


True Italians have been living there since forever and they still don't speak English. :$

Sheva is from Ucraine though, bit different. :confused:

']almost all the interviews I've read regarding Sheva, he mentions how he still loves Milan.. why Sheva, why did you leave................... :(:(:(

The thing that angers the tifosi on him is that he said two months prior of leaving for England that he would love to become a Milan legend like Maldini, Nordahl, ect...

Now I believe he wanted to stay at the time he stated that. But he isn't single anymore you know, Kristen Pazik, his wife is a well known model and she is best friends with the Russian Chelsea's owner wife, in addition she's american, so english speaking.

She also wants her kids (one is still on the way it seems) to be educated in english schools, ect ect.

Believe me, I'm married myself, and a wife can put a terrible pressure on you 24/7 if she feels like it. Only thing I blame her for is that she could have waited 4 more years so Sheva could achieve legendary status in Milan that's all, and I blame him for not standing up enough against her if what he really wanted was stay with us.

But atm I'm not thinking about Sheva anymore but eating my nails awaiting the verdict of tomorrow (will be broadcast live on RAI Uno television for the people who can watch it, I have no idea of the time though)

']thats a stupid reason. thats unacceptable. I dont believe one bit of that. you dont have to be in London to learn English..


Well then there was a reason that he wanted to leave and he left, time to move on my friend

Milan's contract was gonna pay him maybe a few thousand dollars a week less. He moved for a variety of reasons, but as Stephan says, your wife is your wife. Putting yourself through the stress of a marital discord over your family's happiness is something you have to live with for the rest of your life. How a club's supporters view you isnt, sadly. Its too bad alot of your buddies over at Milan Mania dont understand that


I too believe he did mean it when he said he wanted to be a club legend. If he never made those comments, then this was an extremely amicable split

well tahts what he said to the media in a interview!!

Doesnt mean it's the truth. Looking at the whole thing with a grain of salt, i just think he left because of the corruptions issues, and because sometimes you just want a new challenge.

Dont you ever get fed up of managing a team at CM/FM? After 4-5 seasons winning everything, you might want to play your football elsewhere. Yes, i'm still pissed he left and i dont believe the english thing one bit, but well, we got a fair amount of cash for a 30 year old that used to be a lot better anyway.

As a person who just became a fan of soccer, i was shocked that sheva left milan for chelsea. Though i understand family comes first, i too feel that the investigation and probable relegation played a major role.

Either way i wish him the best and hope he shines at Stanford Bridge

guys, it's a lot easier to learn English in an English-speaking country than it is in Italy. think about it, if he sent his son to an English school in Italy, as soon as he got out he'd be surrounded by people who spoke Italian. and what about Sheva himself? how ****ed would it be if he sent his son to school in Italy to learn English, but Sheva doesn't have time for that and therefore can't even communicate with his son in English?

be reasonable, it WAS for his family and it was for the whole English thing.

BTW, tomorrow's the verdict, aye? I had a dream that Juve and Reggina (:|) were sent to Serie C2/B, Fiorentina to B, and Milan stayed in A with a 20 point deduction... I wouldn't mind that :(

You forgot Lazio in your dream ;)

aye, for some reason they were replaced by Reggina (hence the :|)

when the hell are the verdicts coming out?

first it was Monday, then Tuesday.. Then Wednesday.. Now its on Saturday?

Is this good or bad.. :(

Latest news about verdicts on RAI teletext is giovedi, this is thursday in italian.

In the meantime, UEFA calls upon the tribunal to make haste as they want the full list of Italian UEFA and CL clubs before July 25th or no italian clubs will be allowed at all! (I sense the Inter and Roma guys are starting to sweat now, join the club)

This deadline will be hard to meet if they drag on a few more days. So in the best case : thursday the first verdict, clubs and individuals (referees, club staff) have only 3 days time to file appeals, the appeal court should give their final verdict at least two days before July 25th to make it in time...

Referee Massimo De Santis which risks 5 years of suspension or even radiation has already warned the FIGC he will take it to civilian courts if he finds the verdict not to be fair, so I guess this thing will drag on for a long time still.

']OUT

Jaap Stam (Ajax) Free
Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea) €65m



...

Didn't you forget someone?

Stupid thread!

j/k :p

a champions league without italian clubs wouldn't be the same... :boohoo:

does any1 here know when they gonna announce the punishment or not to the Itilians club that are invloved in the match fixing scandal???

Bah it's postponed again, to sometime between thursday night and friday night, most likely will be friday late afternoon, right after the stock market closes so the Lazio and Juve shares will not drop rock bottom. This is not a good sign for said clubs, imho the sentences are already written a long time ago but they were waiting for the World Cup celebrations to fade a little before releasing the harsh verdicts. I hope I'm pessimist here and the truth will be better.

supposedly "inside sources" say :

Milan -9 points
Lazio -15 points
Fiorentina -15 points
Juve -15 points.. In B.. :(




I really dont understand whats it we are guilty of.. :(

']supposedly "inside sources" say :

Milan -9 points
Lazio -15 points
Fiorentina -15 points
Juve -15 points.. In B.. :(




I really dont understand whats it we are guilty of.. :(
:|

Gattuso and Gilardino, again, commit their future to Milan.

They aint leaving no matter what (Y)


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Grazie Rino and Alberto!

You know what's taking the piss out of me? Some Juve supporters that want to drag us with them to Serie Z or wherever they going to end up... for one dubious phonecall vs. Moggi and his dozens of illicit tricks and a phonebook full of phonecalls, you got to be kidding me. I'm not going to post in other teams threads, because I consider those ennemy territory and I don't want to go taunt there, but boy do they get on my nerves. I should stop reading other team's threads too now lol, it's ruining my days.

And it's time the verdict falls, I didn't sleep well since May because of this crap.

Berlusconi speaks :

MILAN - President Berlusconi had this to say in Gazzetta dello Sport: ’I am not going to make any statements about the amnesty as it does not seem applicable. There is another discussion: this trial is taking place without indispensable characteristics of certainty that must be taken into consideration, there are at least three.

First: the judges have not listened to all the telephone calls so secondly, they have not listened to all the witnesses.

Thirdly: there are evidenced various situations from what has taken place. There seems sufficient reasons to assert that there are not some guarantees to arrive at the full facts on part of the judges. Another important consideration is that money has never been mentioned so corruption cannot be spoken about in the exact sense.

I do not acquit everyone but the eventual sanctions should not hit the players, many of whom have demonstrated on the pitch to be the best in the world and they do not deserve to go down to Serie B or C.

The fans should not be penalised either as they are not responsible, they just pay and the true resonsiblity lies with the managers and referees and a true outcome would be arrived at after listening to all the witnesses in a calm manner not after a highly summarised trial.

I remember that Milan have finished second in two championships. If we had finished first then they would have been recognised, it’s right that the second is rewarded, otherwise we are adding insult to injury.’

I am against everyone being relegated, I am speaking not just as Milan president. I am against it because relegating a side like Juventus would also hurt third parties. How many teams are not guilty, would we then be forced to stop the trial against Juventus? I

t will also damage creating sponsors and television companies that have already signed deals. Then there is the matter of exclusion from European competition. In this case, fans and players are also being unjustly penalised.

I am speaking as Milan president and why should a club like ours that has been in the forefront of the European stage for the last three years be penalised? However, I don’t want to think of our own interests but I am looking at the big picture.

Even leaving out the players and fans, we should hit those who really made the mistake. However, we should have a serious and true trial, diverse from the one we are assisting in.’

Gilardino speaks :

MILAN - ’I am really pleased to get back to speaking with the Rossoneri fans!’ This is what Alberto Gilardino had to say on the telephone with Milan Channel. ’What is certain is that my future is with Milan.

I am joined to this shirt and this splendid club, my objective is to win with this team.’ Gila’s relationship with Milan was as close as ever during the World Cup: ’It’s incredible that at 24 I am a World Champion, a difference from my team-mates Costacurta and Maldini.

They are great champions and continued to send messages of support throughtout the World Cup. My best record? I will never forget my goal against USA but also my flick for Del Piero against Germany.


Rino Gattuso speaks :

MILAN - Rino Gattuso spoke about his Rossoneri future to Milan Channel: ’I am proud to wear the Milan shirt, I heard yesterday that Doctor Galliani repeat that Rino Gattuso was going nowhere.

There has been a lot said about Milan in recent months but I think this team is equal to any. We don’t feel less than anyone, we have battled for everything in the last two years.’

Turning to the World Cup: ’I never thought there would be nearly a million people at Circus Maximus. I am in Calabria now and tomorrow I will have a party with my friends which is something have makes me proud.

In this World Cup everyone gritted their teeth but that’s the way I like it, I cannot give up, everyone who knows Rino Gattuso knows that.’

do you think Berlu speaking is positive or negative?

honestly, seeing as this trial is practically a campaign againts him, the more he speaks, the worst it is for Milan.

the verdict confirmed is today?

Good to see some loyal players still exist

']do you think Berlu speaking is positive or negative?

honestly, seeing as this trial is practically a campaign againts him, the more he speaks, the worst it is for Milan.

the verdict confirmed is today?

The only reason Milan is even in this trial is because Rossi the chief investigator (he is a good friend of Morrati, the Inter patron), and Prodi (the new prime ministre and biggest ennemy of Berlusconi) got them into it . BTW, Prodi is only interested in football in two things, to go on the picture with the world cup winning squad and to hit Berlusconi where it hurts.

I am absolutely loyal to Berlusconi, before he came, 20 years ago, we were in Serie B and on the verge of bankrupt, he saved us and brought us many many players and trophies. Imho he does the right thing to criticise the trial, he knows how to influence the public opinion very well, he has been prime ministre for a long time :)

If the tribunal puts Milan in Serie B I bet he will launch an attack on his political opponents that has never be seen before, and I am still convinced that he is the one that leaked the tapes in the first place :)

No news on when the verdict will be heard, it is still sheduled for tomorrow after the stock exchange closes.

I really think that we are going to stay in serie A, because they dont really have an evidence against the team, one ******* phone call in which nobody mention something fraudulent is not evidence.

I think this is going to be our team:

Dida

Miguel(hope) Nesta Kaladze Sergihno

Pirlo

Gattuso Seedorf(or the french guy)

Kaka


Torres Inzaghi(Gilardino)

If we stay in A with not a too harsh penalty (scudetto still possible) then I expect this :


------------------Buffon--------------

Zambrotta-----Nesta-----Kaladze-----Maldini

-------Gattuso-------------Zé Roberto--------

------------------Pirlo--------------------

------------------Kaka-------------------

------Gilardino----------Mister X ---------



Sub for Buffon : either Abbiati if he doesn't stay with Juve or Dida who didn't sign a new contract (I say sell him now while we still get cash for him), Fiori, Coppola, Kalac (sell either Kalac or loan Coppola, Fiori retires next year)

Sub for Zambrotta : Simic and Cafu (I see the latter leave for San Paolo)

Sub for Nesta : Billy (last year) and a new defender to be bought still (Oddo? Barzagli?)

Sub for Kaladze : Favalli and the new defender. Or if Gallas comes after all he becomes titular

Sub for Maldini : last year for the captain so I put him in my starting 11, when rest needed, alternate with Favalli, Serginho and the new defender.

Sub for Rino : Ambrosini, Brocchi, Vogel (I think he will be sold to Monaco), Foggia

Sub for Zé Roberto : Seedorf, Jankulovski (I hope to keep him but rumors send him to Palermo or Roma), Foggia.

Sub for Pirlo : Vogel, Gourcuff, Ambrosini

Sub for Kaka : Gourcuff

Sub for Gila : Inzaghi, Amoruso

Sub for Mister X : Inzaghi, Amoruso

Mister X : Has to be a good attacker to fill the gap Sheva has left, this won't be easy and this won't be cheap, the calciopoli scandal already costs us a lot of lost time and the best players are going to other clubs while the transfer window advances...

Ibrahimovic is almost at Inter, Torres is way too expensive and seems to prefer Man Utd, Adriano stays at Inter or goes to Madrid (and was dissapointing both in Serie A and the WC to be honest), RVN will likely move to Bayern.

I would like Tevez there! Other candidates could be Klaas Jan Huntelaar (unlikely as he is still young and inexperienced), Saviola and of course our old warrior Crespo that wants to come back to Italy (Milan or Inter) at all cost, I say loan Amoruso and take Crespo :)

EDIT :

It seems Milan entered the race for Cannavaro, but I bet this is only to take the piss out of Real Madrid's new boss Caldéron who made announcements of getting Kaka to his team.

Then the new defender guy I was talking about, add Grygera from Ajax to the possible candidates :)

Finaly, Gazetta dello Sport writes that according trustworthy sources, Milan will stay in A, getting a -15 penalisation and no CL football this year (maybe UEFA cup though).

My thoughts on this : 15 points is a whole lot and puts us out of the Scudetto race even before the season starts. This penalty is in reality a -30 one vs. Inter, Palermo and Roma who strengthened their squads already for the next season, we'll be lucky to end the season in a UEFA cup spot... this sucks.

But not as much as for the three others, according to the Gazetta : Lazio faces Serie B with 6 points penalty, Fiorentina goes down with 12 points penalty and Juve escapes Serie C1 but goes to B with a whopping 25 points penalty... don't take this for the truth though, the Gazetto dello Sport wrote this in it's morning edition. The tribunal itself gives it's verdict tonight it seems.

What do you guys think?

I didnt read ur whole post yet, but surely, Ze Roberto aint gonna be a starter :|

And Maldini wont be a regular. Thats pretty sure as well.

']I didnt read ur whole post yet, but surely, Ze Roberto aint gonna be a starter :|

And Maldini wont be a regular. Thats pretty sure as well.
About Maldini read my whole post :)

As for Zé Roberto he is favored by Ancelloti and was along with Kaka, the best Brazil player on the WC. Only danger is that Atlético Madrid wants him too, I read that on calciomercato after I wrote my post, so if he goes there replace him with Seedorf (I would put Jankulovski as a starter, but I doubt Carlo will do that)

I think if he goes to Atletico, again, we are doing them a favour. Its about time they pay it back with you know who ;)

And I like how we are trying to piss Real off (H) Would have been cooler if we did it with Cesc or Robben though.


Honestly, I will wait for the verdicts before posting possible next season teams. I just read that CL is really at risk for us. THAT F*CKING WORRIES ME. I believe with a penalty of about -6 or -9, we could still win the league. But no CL really sucks, all the glamour and money comes from there. We tend to perform a lot better againts open teams as well. Ahh.. :(

']
Honestly, I will wait for the verdicts before posting possible next season teams. I just read that CL is really at risk for us. THAT F*CKING WORRIES ME.

It should worry Inter also, if we won't participate in the UEFA cups we just could be forced to put an effort in winning the Coppa Italia this time :rofl:

also, Berlusconi has never won an UEFA Cup before (H)

but seriously.. no :(

I am sick of the verdict. I would like to read how they justify to dock us 59 points total (44 in 2005, 15 penalisation to start next season which already puts us out of the title race before the championship even begins) and get Galliani suspended for 1 year and Meani for 3 years and six months for one measy phone call that got wrongly interpretted... it's baffling me.

dam this sucks for milan...but hey u guys r still in seria a...ill be rooting for inter 2 win it this year

dam this sucks for milan...but hey u guys r still in seria a...ill be rooting for inter 2 win it this year

Yep, the other 3 got it even worse, although I expect the appeals to put all 4 clubs in better shape than they are now.

I forsee

- a lesser point penalty for Juve, -15 instead of -30 in B
- a lesser point penalty for Fiorentina, -6 instead of -12 in B
- Lazio in A, but with a -15 penalty and no UEFA.
- either no point penalty but no UEFA for Milan or a -15 still but with UEFA qualification for us. (either two would be a lot better than what we have now)

Oh well, I forsee Nesta and Kaka leaving because we will be out of the CL for likely 2 years (depending on the appeal and penalisation points), good for them, we don't need mercenaries, I hope they prove me wrong though.

Also if it remains like this, this will badly **** up our transfers, no big names will want to come if we aren't in the CL... bleh.

It should worry Inter also, if we won't participate in the UEFA cups we just could be forced to put an effort in winning the Coppa Italia this time :rofl:
Milan should worry about winning any sort of trophy, they weren't doing it while they were cheating, why start now?


let sh*tstorm ensue

holy ****, just heard the news... happy we're still in Serie A, but no CL and -15 really sucks... and Stephan, maybe there's something BEYOND that one phone call that we're not aware of? if not and they just punished us out of sheer suspicion, that'd be some serious bull****... "hey, the president of SerieA and the former PM of Italy work for you don't they... well that's all the evidence we need!" :nape:

whatever, at least we stayed up... and ya, if we still win the next SerieA, Inter are gonna hear it (H)

Milan should worry about winning any sort of trophy, they weren't doing it while they were cheating, why start now?


let sh*tstorm ensue

There is absolutely no proof we cheated. In fact we did not cheat. On the other hand you Inter boys should verify some of the passports of your foreign players (do you have other ones still?). Recoba comes to mind. Maybe Berlusconi should file a complaint to the FIGC...

Absolutely gutted. Lets see who's really MILANISTA in our team now.

Il Bahrain capture Kaka

']Absolutely gutted. Lets see who's really MILANISTA in our team now.
Ok, I know I pick on you alot, but this is absurd. There is NO REASON to be absolutely gutted

Yes, you miss out on Europe this year, and you get the minus fifteen, which is going to make the Scudetto race a very hard sell

Now, on the flipside
1. You dont need the money from revenues because your owner is richer than god
2. Youre probably keeping all your players
3. Youre almost certainly ADDING several world class talents like Toni, Buffon or Zambrotta.
4. Your biggest rivals are a stuck-in-the-mud Roma, a bunch of chronic chokers in Internatzionale, and the up and comers like Udinese, Sampa or Palermo.
5. No euorpean football sucks, but having a determined and above all, underdog group of players, which is what you now have, determined to prove their worth and defy the odds to win a championship, and they have only this to concentrate on, and the Coppa. Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if youre still undefeated by matchday 15
6. Youre keeping Kaka for sure. That alone is worth celebrating

Id also venture to say that you will be in the CL by the end of the year. The fourth spot took 74 points to get last season, and you finished with 88. 88 - 74 = 14. Now, your "top" competition will be somewhat weaker, and you will be coming in with a stronger team

Anything is possible, and you might just play rubbish for all I know, but I would be opening the bubbly if I were you

I was gutted because I never really thought of the possibilty of not playing CL till yesterday. I was pretty confident Milan wont get relegated so I was just preparing for point deductions.

Still, I really, really we appeal at least for CL. I prefer playing CL and not reducing the deduction, cause like you say, the league is a whole lot easier now. And Inter.. (H)

-15 puts us out of reach for the Scudetto, even before the season starts, despite what optimists say, it's 15 points in theory but 30 in reality, take the best possible scenario : we win our first 5 matches : we are still last in the table with zero points. In the meantime Inter and Roma could still be at +15 if they also won theirs, even the relegation candidates would have already a few points, then **** happens you lose one or two matches (statisticaly invevitable unless Moggi phones someone) and you're struggling the whole season to even get into UEFA qualification.

If the verdict stands after appeal, our most realistic target is the Coppa Italia. Now the appeal is a double edged knife, it annulates the first trial, but it's verdict could be worse than the first one. (hardly possible but still, imagine Serie B) New judges will have to assess all evidence and make new rulings, but this in less than a week to meet the UEFA deadline. Keep in mind that Empoli doesn't have an European license and that in the present situation we take their spot in the UEFA cup as next in the standings, this could change with the second verdict (if we are docked even more points).

But It's a scandal that we got docked 59 points total for one dubious phonecall, putting us out of the CL, which means a lot of money loss in the next two seasons, and a reason why big names won't come over to Milan, effectively reinforcing our Italian and European opponents.

Now the transfers, Kaka said he would stay in Milan in Serie A, but imho he whispered "if they play CL only" and the journalist didn't hear it. After the Shevchenko case, I don't believe those interviews anymore. Caldéron, the new Madrid chief was also very confident about landing Kaka so I guess he will be out.

Nesta and Pirlo, hard to tell, I wouldn't know, well my feeling tells me one of both will leave, don't know which one though. And all incoming transfers of big names as I said will be cancelled, maybe we'll get Buffon, but Zambrotta and the others I really doubt it.

you are being extremely pessimistic and you know it. just read your whole post again :|

lets look at last years final standings :


Juve 91
Milan 88
Inter 76
Fiorentina 74
Roma 69


we are a massive 12 points ahead of Inter. and we lost once againts them. its a weakened league as well. I dare say its not the hardest thing to win the league next season.

About Nesta, Pirlo and Kaká. I dont think they will leave but Im worried about Kaká. I hope he is an honest man when he commited himself to Milan by signing the contract. Usually one wouldnt feel worried, but after what Sheva said before and then left, one becomes paranoid.

Lastly, be realistic, appealing a verdict at worst doesnt change anything. I dont think they would further penalize Milan! That would be insane. And all this for one phone call? What a farce. Damn.

Does this mean that Milan get Juve´s 04/05 and 05/06 Scudettos?

Rossonero, maybe you have to change sig soon, again? (6)

Does this mean that Milan get Juve´s 04/05 and 05/06 Scudettos?


No

so you get to keep them both?

Under the current verdict no-one will get them I think...

oh, ok. thanks for clearing that up man. :)

oh, ok. thanks for clearing that up man. :)

Inter staff and fans are crying their eyes out to get them though. One is officialy annulated (2005-06) so goes to no one. But the 2004-05 one is revoked from Juve, but I have read nowhere that he will or won't be assigned to anyone...

If anyone, that belongs to us, doesnt it?

______________Buffon
Zambrotta__Nesta__Kaladze__Serginho

:evil:

']If anyone, that belongs to us, doesnt it?

Yeah, we were second with no points docked for that season. Even Mancini, Inter's coach says that scudetto should be non assigned (as he damn well knows that it would be awarded to us if not annulated) but he claims last years one. Their fanatics claim the last two seasons and about 15 of the 27 Juve titles lol, if I want a good laugh I go read Inter boards in invisible mode.

Forget about the UEFA spot :) The tribunal forgot Empoli didn't have an european license to play there, so they are now urged to obtain one in a speed procedure :) the bastards, lol.

but Milan are gonna take these to the courts if they dont get into CL. I dont know. guess its gonna be too late..

Well lets wait and see if we can still get CL after the appeal.
For the other side remember that Kaka has signed a new contract so he cant leave if the team doesnt want to or if the other team doesnt pay the clause that i think no one can.

Well one thing is certain, by missing out on CL we'll lose an estimate of 50 millions of euros the first year, that is more than the transfer money we got for Sheva. Now, Berlusconi is one of the richest guys in Europe so I don't sweat it for money shortage, my only fear is that the likes of Pirlo, Nesta and Kaka won't stay if they can't shine in the CL, this also closes the door to big name transfers.

If we win one of the appeals and it's too late to participate I would ask the FIGC to pay us the missed incomes of the CL, that perspective should calm them down a bit and make them more mild in their verdicts.

Now, news from the front : The rumor of Crespo coming back grows stronger on the usual gossip sites (goal.com ect), I would welcome him back np, he's still a class attacker as he shown on the world cup. He just got 31 the 5th of July, pretty young for Milan standards :)

Well one thing is certain, by missing out on CL we'll lose an estimate of 50 millions of euros the first year, that is more than the transfer money we got for Sheva. Now, Berlusconi is one of the richest guys in Europe so I don't sweat it for money shortage, my only fear is that the likes of Pirlo, Nesta and Kaka won't stay if they can't shine in the CL, this also closes the door to big name transfers.

If we win one of the appeals and it's too late to participate I would ask the FIGC to pay us the missed incomes of the CL, that perspective should calm them down a bit and make them more mild in their verdicts.

Now, news from the front : The rumor of Crespo coming back grows stronger on the usual gossip sites (goal.com ect), I would welcome him back np, he's still a class attacker as he shown on the world cup. He just got 31 the 5th of July, pretty young for Milan standards :)

Thats not true, we recived 52 millions € that is way to much than 50 millions US$.

I just read that the latest player to commit is Andrea Pirlo (Y)

I freaking want Kaká to say something :( But he's on holiday in the USA if Im not mistaken.

I think the players are starting to change their mind.......

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403463&CPID=21&clid=1&lid=&title=Gattuso+to+discuss+future

I read other articles in the italian press, of all players Genaro Gattuso is the one that I have most trust in to never leave, he gave his word, and he's not an ukranian mercenary...

exactly.. Gattuso has like said it 3190129 times he'll even stay in B.. but again.. you never know..

IIRC the article i read about Gattuso quoted him saying something along the lines of "I will be playing in Serie A with Milan next season" before the punishment decisions had been announced. So maybe things would have been different if Milan had of been relegated.

Or is there another article i'm not aware of?

no that was apparently Kaká. I still think it was misquoted though.


Gattuso and Gilardino have been the most "Milanista" about the whole thing. If the links were about Seedorf or someone else then its more creditable.

just wishful thinking on my part :(

Gattuso would be perfect for United :(

a couple of seasons back Gattuso said he wanted to leave Milan and play in England didn't he? I wouldn't be all that surprised if he did leave.

yeah and just months ago Sheva said "Milanista For Life".


I dont know what to believe anymore.. :(

a couple of seasons back Gattuso said he wanted to leave Milan and play in England didn't he? I wouldn't be all that surprised if he did leave.
i think what he said was that IF he were to leave Milan, it would be to England - most probably Man Utd. Can't guarantee that but i'm pretty sure thats what he said.

I doubt Gattuso will leave. I believe Gattuso when he says he'll never leave, he isn't like Shevchenko in any way, really. :p

http://www.acmilan.com/index.aspx

:|

Class of Italy my arse (Y)

EDIT - here's an article about it in English

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul16j.html

haha.. fact is, you dont make comments like that.. and he's all Interista and all.. :D



“His comments are a mistimed tackle. Perhaps he’s still hurting from a certain 6-0 derby defeat, it was the May 11th 2001 and it was probably the day that ended Tardelli’s coaching career.”



(H)(H)(H)

Hey what the hell is happening with Silvio, what is he waiting for, spanish media is saying a lot of crap and made up things to scare Milan, what Silvio has to do is to say that Kaka is not on sale and to f*** out Mijatovic. No more rumors from Real Madrid.

Caldéron makes me smile, he think he owns the world :) One day he'll realise he's not when he will be sitting under a bridge playing guitar to get some coins to buy tequilla to forget.

EDIT : Almost forgot why I posted in the first place lol, It seems more and more likely Milan will play in the UEFA Cup qualification rounds, as Empoli's license demand did not meet the May 10th deadline (I bet that UEFA prefers the incomes from Milan than Empoli's too lol)

The UEFA cup is the only trophy we never won btw :)

Bye Bye Kaka ?

Right after the offer that Real made, 50 millions of €, our well known friend Mr "Chelski" Abramovic offered a whopping 100 million € for Kaka!

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=24&a=10904

Is he printing money or what?

For such a figure, I'd let him go, that would more than compensate our two seasons without CL and we could buy a whole reserve team LOL

MILAN ACE EYES DREAM UNITED MOVE (http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=258453)


i SO want this to be true :(

that's bull**** :) If you want, I'll look for the dozen of links where he states he will remain in Milan even in Serie B, unless of course he's a lying twatt like Sheva.

Oh, and btw, Juve, Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio aren't the only ones that appeal the first verdict, Procurator Pallazzi has also appealed, he thinks the verdict is too mild for the four clubs involved, he wants Juve in Serie C1 with -6, Lazio and Fiorentina in B with -15 each and Milan in B with -3... dum be dum, other sleepless nights incoming...

Bye bye Kaka - Did you honestly think your stars would stay ?

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403824&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=2&title=Kaka+admits+to+Real+interest

Bye bye Kaka - Did you honestly think your stars would stay ?

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403824&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=2&title=Kaka+admits+to+Real+interest


That article is already perimated, just read what I posted about Abramobitch two posts ago :)

And our stars staying or not I couldn't care less, I am Milanista even in Serie D, not like 50% of the people on this board who only follow teams for the glory but back out when they're in trouble :) the losers. The text in my sig is not there because it's pretty, it's what I really feel for Milan.

About this, I must admit that I had a lot of apprehension vs. the Juventus supporters on this board, due to the rivalry there is been between the bianconeri and the rossoneri teams, but now I must admit I admire some of them for standing by their club in it's darkest hour. Guess all Juventini aren't bad after all (but don't tell them huhu)

Bye bye Kaka - Did you honestly think your stars would stay ?

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=403824&CPID=21&clid=120&lid=2&title=Kaka+admits+to+Real+interest


Old news and i am sure that is not going to happen.

Old news and i am sure that is not going to happen.

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is ready to offer a staggering 70 million for AC Milan midfield ace Kaka.

Abramovich is ready to blow Real Madrid out of the water with an offer TWICE as big as what the Spanish giants are willing to put on the table for the Brazilian

Last month, Abramovich watched Kaka in action for Brazil against Australia at the World Cup - sitting alongside Real sports chief Predrag Mijatovic.

Despite their healthy relationship, Abramovich won't stand idly by and allow Real to sign Kaka without a fight. The Russian is angry that Juventus defender Fabio Cannavaro is choosing Real over his club and is now determined to trump them for Kaka as a way of 'pay-back'.

From.....
DiarioSport(Italian Newspaper)

I just read Pirlo might leave as well... that makes Sheva to Chelski, Kaka to Real/Chelski, Pirlo somewhere in Spain, Rino to ManUtd (if the rumours are correct that is)... :nape:

I just read Pirlo might leave as well... that makes Sheva to Chelski, Kaka to Real/Chelski, Pirlo somewhere in Spain, Rino to ManUtd (if the rumours are correct that is)... :nape:


Who is Sheva? You know a Sheva? I dont't... oh yeah the ukranian Judas, already forgot about him :)

Pirlo? Hell, he can go :) he played a good WC but last's season in Serie A he looked like he swallowed a tube of sleeping pills... We have Vogel to replace him.

Kaka? If that little spoiled bratt want to go to Real, let him :) We have Gourcuff to replace him. I'd prefer taking the 100 million of russian maffia money though, then we can buy Ronaldinho to replace him and get Eto'o as a bonus even.

Rino? No way he is leaving Milan. Absolutely no way. And since the first mentionned person left us, after his pledge of becoming "the new Milan legend like Baresi and Maldini", I can assure you I have lost all naivity. Rino is staying.

hahaha, you call yourself a true die-hard Milan fan yet you just rubbish the 7 wonderful years Sheva gave the team. you're a joke.

hahaha, you call yourself a true die-hard Milan fan yet you just rubbish the 7 wonderful years Sheva gave the team. you're a joke.

I look in the mirror in the morning and I see Milan. I am a Milan supporter since 1984, I have lived Serie B. You are the joke Canada boy. The seven years Sheva "gave" to Milan he got royally paid for, we got him out of his Kiev ****hole and he thanks us by backstabbing us.

That after stating he would stay with us and become a Milan legend, maybe you have no honour and no word like him, but to me those things are the most important values in life. You betray me and/or the values I stand for, then you're done for ever in my book.

You should carefuly think before calling people "a joke", some people are very touchy, and I'm one of them, now I'm going to cry all night.

I really can't see Gatusso it seems he bleeds Milan, I'd love to get a player with so much passion, but I doubt that'll ever happen

I am a Milan supporter since 1984, I have lived Serie B.
As such a die-hard Milan fan you should know your numbers better man. In 84 they were already back in Serie A. Last time they were in B it was 82/83.


:fluffy:

ouch.

some you really buy these rumours it freaking sucks.

Gattuso "dream" move to Man Utd is like so 2004.

Pirlo..? Along with Gilardino and Gattuso, just commited to Milan.

Kaká, you know whats funny? The (twisted) quotes AS published about Kaká being open to Real Madrid were also posted in the official website. But it doesnt imply at all he wants to leave. Obviously, official site > AS.



btw, rony, dont mind me asking you this, but are you more of a Sheva fan than a Milan fan? what happened to you?

all you guys being freaking pessimistic is killing me. I dont buy any these rumours one bit but reading all your reactions make me depressed.



and **** off tracertong you bitch.

']some you really buy these rumours it freaking sucks.

Gattuso "dream" move to Man Utd is like so 2004.

Pirlo..? Along with Gilardino and Gattuso, just commited to Milan.

Kaká, you know whats funny? The (twisted) quotes AS published about Kaká being open to Real Madrid were also posted in the official website. But it doesnt imply at all he wants to leave. Obviously, official site > AS.



btw, rony, dont mind me asking you this, but are you more of a Sheva fan than a Milan fan? what happened to you?

all you guys being freaking pessimistic is killing me. I dont buy any these rumours one bit but reading all your reactions make me depressed.



and **** off tracertong you bitch.

You know that i am not being pesimist, i am pretty sure that spanish media rumors are just the :sb9: :sb9: :sb9: of the :sb9: :sb9: :sb9: .

']some you really buy these rumours it freaking sucks.
Start practicing what you preach. You act as if every rumor linking a star with a move to Milan has a real chance and post all your hypothetical lineups, but everytime someone wants to leave Milan, its all just a bunch of bullsh*t to you. You dont think other people get sick of reading about all these goal.com rumors about Milan? Cmon. Kaka isnt going to Madrid, just like Henry, Ronaldinho and Puyol were never going to Milan



btw, rony, dont mind me asking you this, but are you more of a Sheva fan than a Milan fan? what happened to you?
why would you accuse someone of disloyaty to a club everyone knows you started following after another player transfered there?

He's dead right with his post, and I notice the majority of your teams fans have zero appreciation for all the goals and great memories Shevchenko gave you, just because his wife is more important to him than not pissing off fans that, very clearly, never gave a sweet f*ck about him unless he was doing his job for your club. You want the man to have loyalty to fans like that? Loyalty cuts both ways. Your club gets that, but most of you are totally clueless



but I agree, tracertrong is annoying. He registered on one Chelsea forum that I belong to, and uses the term 'we' avidly. And not in reference to Arsenal

Im not referring to Rony on the Sheva case. Heck, Im over that. Rony wants to freaking stop supporting Milan.


Ive started to accept the facts about Sheva's departure. But you dont damn know how it feels, man. you see players like Zola leave, and thats how I wanted Sheva to leave.

you know you come in here and bash most Milan fans because they are bitter about Sheva, but seriously, how would you react if you were in my shoes?

Even when Berlu started blurting out to a reporters that Sheva wanted to leave, I took it with a pinch of salt. I was so damn confident "haha, Sheva out of all people want to leave? get real. His blood is red and black".

And then the turn of events? Ahhh. Sweet. But yet you keep on going "Damn you Milanistas not appreciating Sheva." Like you said, loyalty goes two ways, so when he was loyal to Milan, people loved him, but when he stabbed everyone in the back. No one is gonna feel good, right? Be it for his wife or family or whatever. He still could have left on better terms.

The seven years Sheva "gave" to Milan he got royally paid for, we got him out of his Kiev ****hole and he thanks us by backstabbing us.

Yeah, im sure he was slumming it in a brokedown apartment with his roomie Sergei, just praying everynight before laying down on his pile of hay that a big club would finally discover him and buy him one day. Get real.

He backstabbed you? By listening to his family before he listened to a group of supporters that now piss on his jersey? I'd say he made the right choice if thats what you call becoming a legend at this club.

And for the record, Figo backstabbed Barcelona. He worked behind their backs to make a deal happen. Sol backstabbed Tottenham. He misled them categorically to make a move to their archrivals happen for free. Shevchenko put his heart in his words, apologized for leaving and then got you 50 million for a 30 year old going to a different league. If thats backstabbing, then I hope Arjen Robben backstabs Chelsea tomorrow.

']Im not referring to Rony on the Sheva case. Heck, Im over that. Rony wants to freaking stop supporting Milan.
Do you know how it feels to be disenchanted with a club's moves? Thats what happens when you follow a team and its players. You become attached to both, so when theyre divorced its hard to reconcile. Mine might sell my favorite player tomorrow and im mad as hell about it.

Its alot easier to just up and change teams when your favorite player leaves. But im not going to get into personal insults. If he stops posting on this thread an appears to stop supporting this team, im sure its because of his supposed fellow Milanistas calling him a damn traitor for having his own opinion and not thinking everyone is a DAMN SELLOUT, $HEVA LOLZER. Personally, I wouldnt blame him

Ive started to accept the facts about Sheva's departure. But you dont damn know how it feels, man. you see players like Zola leave, and thats how I wanted Sheva to leave.

you know you come in here and bash most Milan fans because they are bitter about Sheva, but seriously, how would you react if you were in my shoes?

You think it didnt hurt when Gus Poyet kissed the Tottenham crest against us? Duff might be a Spud tomorrow but I will still love him every bit as much because he is the key for Ireland, and he cant be his best sitting behind 3 other wingers (that selfish son of a money hungry bitch). Flo was an amazing striker for us and we made bunches off him. Do you think I went and slagged him for moving to what was then a bigger club? Gullit supposedly had a hissy fit over his wages and was sacked by the board, and then went off to Newcastle. I was only like 12 when I remember hearing about that and I still didnt behave so childishly as you all do

Before we were rich, we were dirt poor. We came 72 hours from selling Terry, Lampard, Gallas, Guddy, Carlo, and anyone that could make us a cent before we dropped to the championship for the glory of a hotel. It wouldve crushed my heart to see them in an Arsenal kit, but I came to terms with the fact that we were going to financially implode, and I knew they had to do what was best for them. I didnt grab my lighter and my Gudjohnsen shirt to go out back

I dont even hate Ken Bates because he helped our club get back on its feet before firing half our managers for virtually nothing and then essentially bankrupting us again. Now he talks sh*t about us from Leeds. But without him, we would never be here. He is a man and he is imperfect, vain and bitter. I understand that and dont fault him for his fat mouth. This is known as "loyalty"

Even when Berlu started blurting out to a reporters that Sheva wanted to leave, I took it with a pinch of salt. I was so damn confident "haha, Sheva out of all people want to leave? get real. His blood is red and black".

And then the turn of events? Ahhh. Sweet. But yet you keep on going "Damn you Milanistas not appreciating Sheva." Like you said, loyalty goes two ways, so when he was loyal to Milan, people loved him, but when he stabbed everyone in the back. No one is gonna feel good, right? Be it for his wife or family or whatever. He still could have left on better terms.
Ahh, once again, the backstabbing argument which really has no validity, despite how many times you throw that term around. Backstabbing is going to a rival. Its finding a loophole to leave your team for free. Its meeting with another team illegally to get a move while putting on a public face of "Oh, I love my team, blah blah" and then giving them the middle finger once the paperwork is in.


Tell me, how could he have left on better terms? He talks about his love for the club and everything seems alright. Then there is a domestic issue where he is thinking about moving, weeks before any potential transfer. Then he sits with the home fans in his last game as they plead with him to stay, embracing and empathizing with them. Fans who apparrently wanted the goals, and not the man who scored them (because he's a backstabber, right?). He looked constipated in every public appearance I saw him make until it was over. Is that the face of a man who wasnt up at night thinking of what to do? Then he comes out and apologetically says he must go, thanking all the fans for their devotion and the club for what they have done for him, and gets you 50 million euros for a 30 year old who has reached and passed his prime. Do you really believe he was sitting in March or whenever thinking "Man, I really wanna f*ck with peoples heads. I know: Ill tell them how much I love Milan and how I want to be here for life, and then a few months later ill fake family troubles just to make a quick exit and break everyone's hearts. That will really screw my legacy with this club over as much as possible".


To leave on better terms, maybe he shouldve built a time machine to go back and warn himself not to speak so highly of the club and slag it off so that you wouldve all been glad to see him go. Or maybe he couldve broken up his family by divorcing his wife just so the likes of you could rave about how much of a legend he is.


Do you have soul mates? Children? Im only 22, so I dont. But I know that if I ever have a wife or child, I will kill and die for them if necesscary. Anyone who believes club football is more important than the people you'll spend the rest of your life loving is a pre pubescant video game playing fan boy. Hopefully, life bestows you the joy of having a family one day.


If you guys truly hated him, you shouldve been indignant from the moment he THOUGHT about leaving. Cause that is, in point of fact, when he became a liar and a backstabber as you all allege. But rather you sat and begged him to stay, to no avail, and THEN he became a traitor. All you care about was his production, not his heart, not his loyalty. If his foot dried up like Raul's has, im sure you wouldve been calling for him to be put back in the Kiev dumpster you apparrently found him in, along with all the other Milan fans, of whom my view has turned to complete poo. Thankfully, 50 million can buy you alot of goals, so good luck


Here now, forever, I wont speak another word on this topic, so say whatever the hell you want. I just hope for your sake Pippo retires at Milan


And I dont know if you know him, but tell your douchebag buddy William to stop PMing me homoerotic threats about shoving severed fingers in asses :|

very good points, respect. I may have used the wrong terms when I said "backstab", that was how I felt, however, like I said, I've already understood the facts. If you notice I posted in the Chelsea thread, when I said Sheva still had Milan written all over him, thats an honest oppinion.

But you didnt answer my question, how would you react if you were in my shoes? Just out of curiosity.

back to some football..

Looks like whoever we buy to replace Sheva, we will be thinking more about Gilardino. This means we will be signing a second striker to utilize Gilardino better.

good decision, Sheva is irreplaceable in terms of goalscoring. but we can adapt the tactics.

wow, i've read alot of, well crap, and blue balla has seemingly put everyone in their place. sure, stuff seems bad in milan but i bet they are worse at juventus, lazio and fiorentina.

great to hear that gila and pirlo have committed to milan. but who else has committed?honestly, i just can't see gattuso leaving. i pray he doesn't leave italy. same with nesta.

what about your defence. will they stay intact and what youth are you bringing in to add depth?

Milan have bought Yoann Gourcuff (19) and brought back Pasquale Foggia (21).

Gourcuff is a replacement for Rui Costa while Foggia is a speedy small winger that Milan have never had in recent times.


commitment? I dont know what to make of it, but Kaká said he was staying, but Spanish papers tell a different story.

Maldini, Costacurta.. I guess they are leaving for sure.. :D

Dida and Abbiati seem to be on the way out if we get Buffon. Dida to Man Utd and Abbiati to Torino, Juve or Arsenal.

Others havent said anything because simply, they are on holiday. I even doubt how they managed to contact Kaká in the USA.

Here in Argentina there are some rumours that Crespo will go to Milan...any news in Italy about this...?

Spanish papers tell a different story.



When dont they?

I would take Crespo back with my eyes closed. Gilardino showed he can complement a bigger guy at the WC, playing behind Toni, so we could try the same.

As such a die-hard Milan fan you should know your numbers better man. In 84 they were already back in Serie A. Last time they were in B it was 82/83.


:fluffy:

If you should live to get as old as I am, you'd start to forget the exact years also :) you'll see. In '84 I was 15 years old, chose Milan because the other peeps chose English clubs (well West Ham was/is still my favorite english club though) and I like to do different. Milan has the exact same colors as my belgian team (RIP bankrupted in 1999), that's why I chose them first.

I never went to San Siro because I don't have the money to pay the trip, I'm not some rich man's boy I'm affraid.

First time I seen Milan live was when they played KV Mechelen in Belgium, now I always go see them when they play in a 400km range of my home (when I can get there by car and the ticket is cheap enough), last time I went was in Eindhoven in the group CL stage last year.

I'm not gonna stop supporting Milan. let me just get that out of the way. even if I do come out and say "**** Milan, I hate them now", I'd still end up waking up Sunday mornings and watching their games intently.

and no, I don't love Sheva more than Milan. if I had, I would've upped and bought a Chelsea shirt that very day. but I still love him, favourite player back when I first started watching football in 01/02, favourite player today. I admit I haven't shown much love for Milan lately, but that's not because of Sheva, it's the scandal. I've already said, had Milan gone bankrupt and been demoted to Serie D, I'd still support them like no tomorrow. it's just the conditions they've been in lately, they've hit me hard. every time Milan would get a questionable call towards them, everyone would say "man Milan just pay the refs, they run the league, blah blah blah", and I'd just deny it. and now with all the **** that's been going on, I just kinda felt backstabbed by the club itself. you give your love and support to a club so that they can play with heart, try their best to win, please the fans, etc. but since I actually started following the allegations against Milan more closely (thank you Stephan), all the question marks just sort of faded. don't worry, I'm still gonna be here.

whatever it is, sorry for questioning. your like some bloody girlfriend of Milan in a love/hate relationship :D :jap:

anyways, as Milan always boast, Milanistas are a family :D



news. Abbiati officially loaned to Torino. Buffon is closer.

Zambro's first choice is us. Damn, I really want these two. Sorry Juventino :(

Kaka freaking called Milan HQ from his holidays to deny he wants to leave after he read the official website publish quotes of him apparently saying he was open to a Real move (H)


Lately no strikers have been linked with Milan except Zlatan. But he's closer to Inter. No word on Crespo. But why you guys want him so much? He's like 32? :(

']news. Abbiati officially loaned to Torino. Buffon is closer.

Kaka freaking called Milan HQ from his holidays to deny he wants to leave after he read the official website publish quotes of him apparently saying he was open to a Real move (H)


Dida to be offloaded? :S :confused: :( If you're getting Buffon no one can really complain however.

And Kaká, I just knew he just had class enough :jap: .

Dida's contract is about to expire and I think he doesnt want to sign the new deal. Milan said that they wont sell him however. But if Buffon comes, Dida will be the one who would want out.


and yeah, Kaka :jap:

It's been a long time, but well i'm here to support Milan. I'm sad the Sheva is no longer with the team but we have to move on.

The scandal has benn sad, but we were very fortunate not to be relegate it. And as far as Kaka, i don't think he will go to Real Madrid.

']


news. Abbiati officially loaned to Torino. Buffon is closer.


Apperently Secco told Milan they can forget about Buffon now. Juventus demanded Abbiati in the deal.

This message taken from AC Milan page says everything that i want to hear.

MILAN FOREVER
7/18/2006 12:29:00 PM
The idea, Carlo Ancelotti and the champions remain with Milan. Neither the coach nor our great champions hopped on a plane, actually Rino Gattuso even went so far as to state officially that he is ‘proud to be at Milan and is not leaving’. There is no need to worry. Niether Spain's La Liga nor England's Premier League will be able to boast the likes of Nesta, Gattuso, Kakà or Pirlo. They are our champions and they are here to stay. In fact, Ricky once again politely but firmly declined the interest of another club and he just renewed his contract with Milan until the end of 2011 in the midst of the World Cup. Our champions stay because playing for a Milan is a matter of the heart, playing here is like being with family.

Nothing else to say.

Apperently Secco told Milan they can forget about Buffon now. Juventus demanded Abbiati in the deal.
if thats true (H)


Why would anyone want Crespo? Pippo is older still and nobody is calling for him to be sacked. Crespo still scores for fun like he's half his age, and he doesnt cost a penny

Why would anyone not want Crespo?

because we have Pippo :D



and btw, Juventino, I doubt Milan would be that stupid to not give up Abbiati for Buffon. Just doesnt make sense.

Yeah... it was probably Abbiati's own decision. I understand he rather plays in Serie A then B.

It's been a long time, but well i'm here to support Milan. I'm sad the Sheva is no longer with the team but we have to move on.

The scandal has benn sad, but we were very fortunate not to be relegate it. And as far as Kaka, i don't think he will go to Real Madrid.

Hey, been a while indeed. How's it going mate? :)

I'd take Crespo any day of the week to replace Amoruso :) He ruled in the WC, not only scoring himself but giving the best assist of the tournament (the Cambiasso goal).

I hope Buffon would come since Dida is on his way out after the next season, he doesn't want to sign a contract extention and has likely already agreed a deal with either Villareal or Man Utd.

Just remember players come and go, but the team stays :)

QUestion for all milan fans, whats the great paolo maldini up to these days?? I read that he may still play this upcoming season and then retire??

well, almost every new season seems to be his last season :D

he's not 100% anymore. I dont seem him being a starter :(


neways, Buffon to stay at Juve. very surprising. but two other very good goalkeepers around, Frey and Amelia.

Hey, been a while indeed. How's it going mate? :)

Everything is great, real busy with work and college, not to mention GF.

Now like sheva7 said, very surprising to read that Buffon will play for Juve. I think Milan should really start moving before all the good players from Fiore, Lazio and Juve are gone.

At least 2 very good player and other 2 good players from those clubs Milan should sign, don't know who or what position.

Yeah... it was probably Abbiati's own decision. I understand he rather plays in Serie A then B.

heh, a player choosing to go to one Turin side over another, and it's not Juve... never thought I'd see the day (H)


BTW, Buffon will crack sooner or later, don't worry (H) as for Dida, well he's given us what, 1 or 2 consistent seasons? the last 2 he's been balls, so he can leave whenever he wants

Why arent we getting closer to Zambro..? :|

Probably because he wants to play for a club in the CL

Actually, no. He wants to play for us.

Probably because he wants to play for a club in the CL
HAHA!

I didnt mean to take the piss, but he hasnt won the CL has he?, and hes won basicly everything else football can offer

as a keeper he has like another decade to accomplish that goal. Milan will probably be back in Europe next season. I think his and his family's happiness is the top concern

Pictures from the first gathering of 2006/2007

A symbol of Milan, the devil. Oh and beside him is the club mascot (H)

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP105072010_1024x768.jpg


Pasquale Foggia, Carlo Ancelotti, Ariedo Braida and Yoann Gourcuff

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP102072010_1024x768.jpg


The dude is freaking handsome man :$

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP104072010_1024x768.jpg



Kits dont look bad at all heh? I was expecting some ugly "Bet and Win" logo. Turns out ok (Y)

Nice surprise, going to buy all of them as usual :) Hard thing to find and missing on the pics is the keeper kit, I guess it will be the usual green one.

ya the kits look pretty good, at first I thought we'd pull a Boro and put the whole "BetAndWin.Com" on it :( and is that the ball we'll be using for home games next season? frickin sweet (Y)

Did a great job with the sponsor. Far cry from BENQ Siemens or AIG or some of the other overly huge crap teams now have. Think the kit wouldve looked better reversing the colors above the stripes, but im a big fan of the white one

also, saw Sam Dalla Bonna in some training pics. Does he figure to be in your squad this year?

milan kits are always great....i like the white one too but also the grey one they once had...

I see Ancelotti has been gaming with Nesta. :fool:

lol

also, saw Sam Dalla Bonna in some training pics. Does he figure to be in your squad this year?

I thought we sold that guy a while ago... but I guess we just kept loaning him out for 5 straight seasons :| anywho, I doubt he'd figure in the team, bench at best, unless we sell one of our starting mids, then he might be a rotation player

where did you see the training pics, balla? :$

I see Ancelotti has been gaming with Nesta. :fool:

haha took me a while to understand that (H)


Now we lost Zambro, I really hope we get Oddo. Our left flank was well covered with Sergio and Jankulovski, but the right is dying with only Cafu a class option. And he's getting really old now.

We were being linked with Diarra the past few days, but the rumours said he was gonna be a replacement for Pirlo :| But thank god Braida said Kaká and Pirlo told him they were staying (Y)

And please, Im asking again, who is realistically the Sheva-replacement? Come on, I know Crespo is good and all, but he cannot play the second striker. We need that kind of player. Ancelotti said something along the lines of "Oh we have Pippo to partner Gilardino. We also have Gourcuff and Foggia,". Foggia can play the second striker but he's what, 21? Can we trust him?


Training pics :


Yoann Gourcuff

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP112072014_1024x768.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP111072013_1024x768.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP110072013_1024x768.jpg


Dalla Bona? Haha what the hell is he doing with us. Didnt we like sign him 4 years ago?

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP109072013_1024x768.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XAP106072013_1024x768.jpg

Braida has confirmed Buffon is a target.

My dream is Diarra. It seems all the other teams have the same dream as well though :(

I say, to complete this team, all we need is Oddo, Diarra and a world class striker. And Im all for Zlatan. I know he's a striker and he's supposed to score, but with him, Gilardino will win the golden boot for sure.

Zlatan also seems closer to Inter though. Damn this Calciopoli. Argh.........

Buffon and Oddo are more important IMO, i think that Gila is good enough and can play without the shadow of Sheva, although he will have to perform very good or he will feel the pressure.

Ibra is good but i rather have Adriano, because it seems he may be avaible.

I don't want Ibrahimovic (seriously, he sucks let him go to Inter) or any other Juventus leftover, exception made of Buffon maybe, but if he wants to play in B let him (although I think Juventus is just pushing his price, if we get CL back in appeal then he will be at Millanello before you can say "Inter are paper champions")

Adriano can join his fat brother Ronaldo, I don't want him either, just bring the Argentinians Crespo, Tevez, Mascherano and we're good.

']where did you see the training pics, balla? :$
yeah, those are the ones you posted there


I had forgotten Dalla Bona was still quite young. He joined us when he was only 17, but he actually made an impression. I couldnt remember if the club wanted him out, of if he wanted out when we sold him. The guy seems to have been around a while, been on loan from Milan three times and is still only 25 :| Probably regrets leaving Chelsea now

I guess there is a reason for that, but maybe he might actually figure on the end of your bench or something. Sometimes a perrenial bench player only needs someone to show confidence in him to start realizing potential. I just hope you dont send him on loan yet again :|

If the appeal sends us to Serie B Della Bonna might even be in the starting 11... :amika:

can any Milanista tell me if Kaka has some sort of EU nationality/passport?

I dont think so, no.

He's got an Italian one from his Nan doesnt he?

He has Brasilian nationality, no other.

I just read that you guys rejected a 100 million EURO bid for Kaka from Chelsea

Kaka is the future of Milan, why would they want to sell him?

100 million? :| :| :|

Feck it, you can't even think of rejecting this.

you can, when there isnt any replacements.

who in the world is better than Kaká? Many would say Ronaldinho? But Barca wont sell him.

besides, Milan got €60m from Sheva, thats enough to rebuild.

100 million? :| :| :|

Feck it, you can't even think of rejecting this.

Berlusconi's empire is worth billions, we have only let Sheva go because he requested it (or his wife if you like). But Kaka just signed until 2011. We'll keep him no matter what they bid, even if it's get Sheva back + 100 million + life free drinks.

Only thing that could ask himself to release him is if, in appeal, we get demoted to Serie B.

i agree 100 %, there what... 5 players maybe in the world that can replace Kaka but there clubs won't sell them.

And yeah 100 is a lot, but when half Juve players are gone and some other teams aren't in the market of selling, there's not much room of making a bad decision.

Anyway i hope that by july 25th we can start talking about what Milan is going to buy, rather than selling and the scandal.

And the spanish media is making the bid rejection like Kaka only wants to go to Real Madrid, but they don't know that before Kaka came to Milan, he rejected a Chelsea offer, because he still don't want to go there.

Palazzi the little Inter bitch is at it again, he requested Serie C1 for Juve and Serie B for Milan again in the appeal, someone put a bomb under that freak's car, k thx.

I thought the point of having an appeal trial was so that different people would handle the trial? :|:|:|

Oh man, and I thought we were safe.

']I thought the point of having an appeal trial was so that different people would handle the trial? :|:|:|

Oh man, and I thought we were safe.

It's a different set of judges, but the prosecutor from the first trial, Palazzi, went also into appeal because he found the verdicts for Juventus and Milan to be too mild. So while the lawyers of the four clubs try to diminish the harshness of the verdicts, he tries to increase them... in the end we could wind up worse than we were.

Don't you love the Italian justice system?

- wiretaps are legal court material (in most european country this is not due to privacy laws)

- you have to prove your innocence instead of the state proving your guilt (again, in most european countries this is just the opposite)

- The tribunal is more corrupt than the people they are judging (this is my opinion, not a proven fact, but if you look at the background of the judges you'll see what I mean, no need to be Sherlok Holmes to see who is influencing them)

today is the day, dudes :(


I really, really, really, really hope we get into the Champions League. I dont mind the -15 points as much.

Relegation. :(

no offense.

rusi you want us in serie B so kaka can sign with you guys, but i believe we will play the champions, although we will have to qualify and - 9 points for next season.

But i'm confidence that we will get out with a lot of "benefits'

Yeah, that is just wishful thinking.

I think you guys will be back in the CL this year. Bersculoni is a powerful man.

Every summer Abramovich supposedly offers 100 million for the "it" Brazilian superstar, and yet nothing has ever happened. Supposedly it was Ronaldo when he first came. Then Ronaldinho the next summer, then Ronaldinho and Adriano last summer, and now Kaka. But fiscally the man cannot afford to pay 1/70th of his total wealth on the transfer fee of one freaking player. I know we spend over that alot of summers, but that is for the whole team

I cant imagine the metaphorical kick in the nuts it would be to Juventini if you were allowed back in the CL. But a six-time champion being there makes it a better competition, period.

i think that now milan will sign whoever they were planing on signing, now that everything will be decide it or in the worst case cenario.... selling whoever they were planing on to. :(

verdict is likely postponed till tomorrow, the Milan lawyers are talking to the court atm, court started today at 15:00 GMT+1 and should be finished by 20:00 GMT + 1 but they have to hear all the Milan lawyers, including Galliani's and Meani's own lawyers + the three defending the club, then they lawyers of the linesmen involved in the so called "dubious" call, it could be a lot later and Judge already said verdict could be postponed to tomorrow evening.

I expect full clearance, scudetto and the whole chabang, we did nothing wrong, period. Of course the Inter influenced tribunal will disagree.

Palazzi the little Inter bitch is at it again, he requested Serie C1 for Juve and Serie B for Milan again in the appeal, someone put a bomb under that freak's car, k thx.

Guess he wants to eliminate any competition so inter can walk away with the title, that's ashame :nape:

while in court, they might as well legally change Inter's name from Inter Milan to Default FC

I honestly have my doubts that Inter will win even without Milan, Juve and Fio.

Roma are better organized.

And another thing, if we dont get CL, that means we would be pushing 100% for the Scudetto whilst Inter have to have an eye on CL. We could still win :D


Latest numbers apparently :

10. Seedorf
20. Gourcuff

i hope Gourcuff does awright in Serie A. :ewan:

I'm curious on who will inherit number 7...

Im not honestly not prepared to let anyone have that number :(


I dont want the number to go to another striker. I want it to go to a new player, possibly a winger. But since we dont play wingers, I guess a striker is gonna get it.

whats the latest on the appeals?

Verdict tonight at 20:30, I guess everyone will be pleased with an UEFA cup spot and a new season start at -7? (latest pronostic from the Gazetta dello Sport)

Well, I'm not, I expected full clearance, I don't want Juventus scudetto, but I want CL football and no penalisation next year (that is what our lawyers demanded), but since the court is run by Inter I guess that won't happen. Even in 20 years from now though, I and many others will not have forgotten this, and some day, sooner or later, Inter will pay, rest assured. (Berlusconi doesn't like to be played with either)

UEFA gave Italy an extension for the club applicants. Please, I pray to god Milan at least get CL..

Guido Rossi puts pressure on the tribunal, he has announced he will resign from head of the FIGC if he finds the verdicts to be too soft... please let it be, I want that Inter bastard gone (and he should take his boyfriend Palazzi with him)

John Lennon:

http://www.lastampa.it/sport/cmssezioni/scandalocalcio/200606images/palazzi01p.jpg

Palazzi:

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/jo/john-lennon-legend-mini-poster.jpg

hAHA! Man they are so similar...

hAHA! Man they are so similar...

Yeah, if god pleases they'll end the same way too.

Guido Rossi puts pressure on the tribunal, he has announced he will resign from head of the FIGC if he finds the verdicts to be too soft... please let it be, I want that Inter bastard gone (and he should take his boyfriend Palazzi with him)

Though i don't know who he really is, I am starting to hate the little B***H. Is there a reason why he is doing this??

:kader:

Our last chance of getting Kaka is gone with the corrupt appeals (6)

Oh well. :rolleyes:

WE ARE SAVED !!!!!!! and minus 8 points for next season and the reduction to only 30 points lost insted of the 44, and with that.... the possibility of the champions league are real.

Fiore and Lazio are back in serie a with Juve the only team in B :rockman:

Il Milan ripartirà da -8 ma giocherà la Champions. from gazzetta :fluffy:

Yeah well, we should have been awarded two scudetti (I'm joking, they should not been awarded at all) and started the next season with no penalisation at all. But you can't have everything I guess... I seriously hope we will catch Inter next season so I can rub in their faces for the next 40 years that they lost the title to their city rivals who started at -8...

:kader:

Our last chance of getting Kaka is gone with the corrupt appeals (6)

Oh well. :rolleyes:


Prove corruption or STFU, thanks.

i think Milan should be reward the 04/05 scudetto not this year.

i think Milan should be reward the 04/05 scudetto not this year.

If you follow Guido Rossi's reasonement to assign the 05/06 one to Inter then yes, you are right. But the 04/05 one is too "old" to be awarded, I wonder what he would have said if Inter would have ended second that year instead of us...

My belief is the revoked scudetti should not be awarded at all and leave a black mark in history books to prevent the suits in the future to try doing the same crap again...

this year needs a champion because of UEFA rules.... but 04/05 i agree should not have a champion, but if there is one it should be milan.

The last two Scudettos should not be awarded at all. Who wants to have a title with a asterisk (*) next to it (except for maybe Inter (H))?

So will Milan be seeded for the 3rd round draw?

in some pages (in spanish) they say Milan will be seeded for the 3rd round, and yeah Inter will accept anything if that equals a title since they can win it playing.

Without teams cheating against them, I am sure they could.

:fool:

Im so happy man.. Thank god..



NOW we can speak of transfers.

Ohhh Mr Berlu you gotta clean up now. Bring me a couple of big names.

Real is my favorite team in Spain btw, but my admiration for them is getting lower every minute :)

Lets freaking hustle their stars now. Lets get Beckham :D

']Lets freaking hustle their stars now. Lets get Beckham :D

hell no.... i rather have diogo than beckham, besides cannavaro and casillas there is no one worth in that roster

yeah I know maybe. but just payback.

we should create a media story and have us say we are so close to signing Beckham. the Madridistas will wet themselves at the thought but in the end we dont sign him. haha :D

they will be happy to see beckham go believe me, and with that money sign someone much better.

Real is my favorite team in Spain btw, but my admiration for them is getting lower every minute :)

Calm Down man, just busting your balls :ewan:

I doubt you can be that pissed after the verdict


']Lets freaking hustle their stars now. Lets get Beckham :D

haha (6)

please! :fool:


hell no.... i rather have diogo than beckham, besides cannavaro and casillas there is no one worth in that roster


haha, even funnier

Its a sad state of affairs when you bribe your way out of a scandal... Its just a never ending loop..

Its a sad state of affairs when you bribe your way out of a scandal... Its just a never ending loop..
BUT MILAN DIDNT CHEAT OMGZ!!!1111

BUT MILAN DIDNT CHEAT OMGZ!!!1111


:rofl:

heh. yeah. the referee helped us own you 4-1.

Now the market begins..

David Suazo's manager just said "Milan is interested but i think that Suazo is a secondary choice, their main target is somewere else"

:brow:

It seems to be that Hernan wants to leave Chelsky. I think you know what does it means.

Well, now with the final veredict done i hope we get our hands into some good players. A young defender, a "replacement" for Shevchenko and a new keeper would do.

of course Rusi's going in favour of Inter, he's Argentinian (H) happy with the result. and what's with everyone coming in here saying Milan are corrupt when they have absolutely no proof whatsoever? **** off, hosers :(

:)

I don't think Dida is that bad ... I am suprised you guys are so eagar to replace him.

I bet Crespo signs with you guys pretty soon

Buffon may come, as crazy as it sounds, i know he said that he will stay but who knows.... they may be back to seria a next year, but it will be two or more years before Juve can get to the CL. I mean their best players will be (and are) gone, Del Piero won't play forever and only god knows how their financial situation will be, especially now that the TV deals are not going to be there.

Crespo is a IMO the first and only (for now) sign that Milan will have. But Berlusconi better make a push at better players or at least good players with the money that we have and the one for the Sheva transfer.

A defender is a must sign, don't know who can be and a fast player because we don't have one, i mean kaka is fast but not a road runner.

Signing Crespo means we will have THREE strikers and only one, probably crappy forward.

I know he's good and did super here, but Gilardino can do equally the same and has much time on his side.

I'd only sign Crespo if we get Amoroso out and sign a big name, world class player either in midfield or for the frontline.

If we get a world class midfielder, we can play Kaká as the forward and I bet he'll do wonders there. Even from midfield he got some 15 goals or so last season.

Also with Inter closer to Toni, like it or not, we are closer to Zlatan. But then again, he looks like he will renew.

Personally, deep inside of me, I thought Torres was waiting for us and not signing for Man Utd :$ But he's gonna stay there as well.


btw, Gazzetta, supposedly the most reliable of newspapers in Italy, arent trusting that Buffon is willing to stay at Juve.

whatever it is, I must say Dida has to go, unfortunately. If Im not mistaken, Braida has offered him a contract and he's not signing it :| Lots of alternatives to Buffon in Amelia or Livorno and Frey of Fiorentina.


for the defence, we've been linked to Oddo and to a lesser extent, Barzagli. Lazio apparently want €5m + Foggia whilst we offered €2.5m only. A long way to go, I guess.

fast player because we don't have one, i mean kaka is fast but not a road runner.

I think thats why we have chose to bring back Pasquale Foggia.

i know this may sound crazy but is buffon don't fall, Osvaldo Sanzhez is just great. I know Milan scouts may not even know who he is, but i would love to have him as our goalkeeper.

And Lucas Neil from Australia and current EPL player was linked with Milan, at least during the world cup.

:)

I don't think Dida is that bad ... I am suprised you guys are so eagar to replace him.

I bet Crespo signs with you guys pretty soon

we'll straight swap you Dida for a ladder. cuz that's basically all he's been the past 2 seasons.

what are we gonna use the ladder for? :(

i will use it to hang Carlo A. for example (6)

haha, I never realised he was so bad :fool:

I really dont want Suazo but looks like we are close to him. Crespo looks Barca bound :|