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Website: www.fcporto.pt
Stadium: Estádio Do Dragão
http://www.fcporto.pt/Imagens/7308.jpg
History:
September, 1893. Out from nothing, as a secret ambition unfolded by a tough and inflexible reality, F.C. Porto has been founded. António Nicolau d´Almeida, a fine sportsman and an expert Oporto Wine trader, invited, in the quality of F.C. Porto president, F.C. Lisbonense to a football match. It was the first appearance in a football match for the club, the most ancient page written in a hundred years of history.
Deep and insightful enthusiasm marked the years that followed F.C. Porto foundation. To unite the efforts of the local community with the strong English representation in Oporto was the goal of José Monteiro da Costa. This led to extinction of Grupo Recreativo «O Destino» in favour of F.C. Porto. It was the beginning of a solid structure.
The founders were men strongly determined to engender a symbol, an emblem or an icon, in which future generations would have pride on. Their remarkable initiative is still remembered. Blue and white were the colours chosen, as meaning of pureness, calmness and stillness of mind. The colours were represented, at that early time, in the Portuguese flag.
F.C. Porto evolved his purposes to national and universal goals. In the first emblem, the symbol was, of course, a football ball with the F.C.P. initials. Twenty years later the Oporto city shield becomes vital part of F.C. Porto badge. In 1948, the 3-2 victory over Arsenal, team at the time known as the best team in the world, was a proof of the blue and white potential.
Over the years F.C. Porto grew as the conquests were becoming bigger and as his purposes were becoming greater. The symbol of a region astounded the country and surprised the world. De 1980’s were probably the most memorable decade. In 1987 and 1988, F.C. Porto conquered the European Cup, the Intercontinental Cup and the European Supercup, outstanding deed, a proof of the success of special approach in how to deal with sports. Few years later, F.C. Porto achieved a goal that no other club in Portugal dare to accomplish. Five Championships in a row was a remarkable act, another great page in the club's history.
Nowadays the world has changed and Portugal too has evolved. Sports reality is now more complex, but F.C. Porto remains at the top. The club remained winning and the dynamics persist, continuing to be a flag of the region. F.C. Porto has now representation all over the country and all over the world.
The Centro de Treinos e Formação Desportiva PortoGaia and the Dragão Stadium are modern standard of a vanguard difficult to be equalised. The future shines as a reflex of the conquests of the UEFA Cup, in the season 2002/03, of the UEFA Champions League, in 2003/04, and the Intercontinental Cup, in 2004.
Beyond the reality that surrounds football, F.C. Porto showed his greatness in other sports. The honours achieved speak for it. The club that has a Dragon as a symbol holds the Championship title in basketball, handball and roller-hockey, the sports that more cheer up the portuguese. Billiards, swimming, athletics, adapted sport, motor sports, boxing, camping, chess, fishing, karate and weightlifting give also the contribution to this history of success and insure the diversity and necessary involvement in community well being.
Honours:
League Winners:
1921/22,1924/25,1931/32,1934/35,
1936/37,1938/39,1939/40,1955/56,
1958/59,1977/78,1978/79,1984/85,
1985/86,1987/88,1989/90,1991/92,
1992/93,1994/95,1995/96,1996/97,
1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,2003/04,
2005/06
Cup Winners:
1955/56,1957/58,1967/68,1976/77,
1983/84,1987/88,1990/91,1993/94,
1997/98,1999/00, 2000/01,2002/03,
2005/06
Supercup Winners:
1981/82,1983/84,1984/85,1985/86,
1989/90,1990/91,1992/93,1993/94,
1995/96,1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,
2003/04
UEFA Cup Winners:
2002/03
Champions League Winners:
1986/87, 2003/04
European Supercup Winners:
1986/87
Intercontinental Cup Winners:
1987/88, 2004/05
Season 2006/07
Kits:
Home:
http://www.fcporto.ws/imagens/kit2007-7.jpg
Away:
http://www.fcporto.ws/imagens/kit2007-8.jpg
Confirmed Transfers:
Players IN:
Tarik Sektioui (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=436785.html) (AZ Alkmaar)
Adriano (Cruzeiro)
João Paulo (Leiria)
Diogo Valente (Boavista)
Ezequias (Académica)
Jorge Fucile (Liverpool de Montevideo)
Players OUT:
Diego (http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/Kind=2/newsId=423494.html) (Werder Bremen)
Sérgio Organista (Pontevedra)
Pedro Ribeiro (Gil Vicente)
Sandro, Pedro Oliveira (Setúbal)
Marcos Antonio (Leiria)
Furtado (CSKA Sofia)
Rui Sacramento (Valdevez)
Cristóvão (Penafiel)
Benni McCarthy (Blackburn Rovers)
Cesar Peixoto (Espanyol)
Gonzalo Marronkle (?)
Loans:
Areias, Nuno Coelho (http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/Kind=2/newsId=428622.html) (Standard Liege)
Hélder Barbosa, Fatih Sonkaya (Académica)
Maciel (Braga)
Leandro (Cruzeiro)
Leandro do Bomfim (Cruzeiro)
Leo Lima (Cruzeiro)
Cláudio «Pitbull» (Fluminense)
Bruno Vale, Ivanildo, Paulo Machado (Leiria)
Steven Vitória (Tourizense)
Hugo Almeida (Werder Bremen)
Bruno Gama (Braga)
Hugo Marques (União de Lamas)
João Pedro (Tourizense)
Transfer Rumours:
Players IN:
Players OUT:
Squad:
Goalkeepers
1 Helton
99 Vítor Baía
24 Paulo Ribeiro
Left Backs
5 Marek Cech
25 Lucas Mareque
Right Backs
12 Bosingwa
13 Fucile
Centre Backs
4 Pedro Emanuel
2 Ricardo Costa
3 Pepe
14 Bruno Alves
26 João Paulo
Defensive Midfielders
18 Paulo Assunção
16 Raúl Meireles
Centre Midfielders
6 Ibson
8 Lucho González
Offensive Midfielders
20 Jorginho
10 Anderson
Right Wingers
7 Quaresma
21 Alan
17 Vieirinha
Left Wingers
Forwards
9 Lisandro Lopez
29 Bruno Moraes
28 Adriano
19 Tomo Sokota
23 Helder Postiga
22 Wason Rentería
Coach: Jesualdo Ferreira
Pre-Season Fixtures/Results:
Gaia, Portugal
Saturday, July 15th:
Porto x Cerveira (Friendly)
17 x 0
no scorelist available
Raalte, Holland
Tuesday, July 18th:
Rohda Raalte x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 6
Jorginho, Ibson, Raúl Meireles, Adriano, Benni x2
Geesteren, Holland
Thursday, July 20th:
KVV Stevo x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 9
Benni, Alan, Adriano (pen), Ezequias, Ibson x2, Anderson x2, Tarik
Groningen, Holland
Saturday, July 22nd:
Groningen x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 2
Nevland x2; Adriano, Bosingwa
Enschede, Holland
Tuesday, July 25th:
VV Rigtersbleek x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 13
Bruno Moraes x3, Adriano x2, Quaresma x2, Vieirinha x2, Jorginho, Raul Meireles, João Paulo, Tarik
Oldenzaal, Holland
Thursday, July 27th:
Heracles Almelo x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 1
Bruno Moraes
Porto, Portugal
Sunday, July 30th:
Porto x Roma (Friendly)
1 x 0
Mexes (o.g.)
Amsterdam, Holland
Friday, August 4th:
Manchester United x Porto (Amsterdam Tournament)
3 x 1
Rooney, Scholes, Solkjaer; Pepe
Amsterdam, Holland
Saturday, August 5th:
Inter Milan x Porto (Amsterdam Tournament)
3 x 2
Pizarro, Martins x2; Adriano, Cech
Rijnsburg, Holland
Tuesday, August 8th:
Rijnsburgse Boys x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 5
Gootjes, Egmond; Lisandro x2, Cech, Jorginho x2
Portsmouth, England
Thursday, August 10th:
Portsmouth x Porto (Friendly)
1 x 2
Todorov; Lisandro, Cech
Manchester, England
Saturday, August 12th:
Manchester City x Porto (Thomas Cook Trophy)
0 x 1
Adriano
Season Fixtures/Results:
Saturday, August 19th:
Porto x Setúbal (Portuguese Supercup)
3 x 0
Adriano, Anderson, Vieirinha
Friday, August 25th:
Porto x Leiria (Portuguese League, 1st round)
2 x 1
Adriano, Quaresma; Sogou
Sunday, September 10th:
E. Amadora x Porto (Portuguese League, 2st round)
0 x 3
Rui Duarte (o.g.), Raul Meireles, Lucho
Wednesday, September 13th:
Porto x CSKA Moscow (Champions League, Group G, 1st round)
0 x 0
Sunday, September 17th:
Naval x Porto (Portuguese League, 3rd round)
0 x 2
Cech, Mário Sérgio (o.g.)
Friday, September 22nd:
Porto x Beira-Mar (Portuguese League, 4th round)
3 x 0
Postiga, Lisandro, Tarik
Tuesday, September 26th:
Arsenal x Porto (Champions League, Group G, 2nd round)
2 x 0
Henry, Hleb
Monday, October 2nd:
Braga x Porto (Portuguese League, 5th round)
2 x 1
Marcel, Luís Filipe; Postiga
Saturday, October 14th:
Porto x Marítimo (Portuguese League, 6th round)
3 x 0
Postiga x2, Lucho (pen)
Tuesday, October 17th:
Porto x Hamburg (Champions League, Group G, 3rd round)
4 x 1
Lisandro x2, Lucho (pen), Postiga; Trochowski
Sunday, October 23rd:
Sporting x Porto (Portuguese League, 7th round)
1 x 1
Djaló; Quaresma
Saturday, October 28th:
Porto x Benfica (Portuguese League, 8th round)
3 x 2
Lisandro, Quaresma, Bruno Moraes; Katsouranis, Nuno Gomes
Wednesday, November 2nd:
Hamburg x Porto (Champions League, Group G, 4th round)
1 x 3
Van Der Vaart; Lucho, Lisandro, Bruno Moraes
Sunday, November 6th:
Setubal x Porto (Portuguese League, 9rd round)
0 x 3
Lisandro, Postiga, Quaresma
Saturday, November 18th:
Porto x Académica (Portuguese League, 10th round)
2 x 1
Postiga, Pepe; Nestor Alvarez
Tuesday, November 21st:
CSKA x Porto (Champions League, Group G, 5th round)
0 x 2
Quaresma, Lucho
Sunday, November 26th:
Belenenses x Porto (Portuguese League, 11th round)
0 x 1
Postiga
Saturday, December 3rd:
Porto x Boavista (Portuguese League, 12th round)
2 x 0
Quaresma, Postiga
Wednesday, December 6th:
Porto x Arsenal (Champions League, Group G, 6th round)
0 x 0
Monday, December 11th:
Nacional x Porto (Portuguese League, 13th round)
1 x 2
Zé Vítor; Bruno Moraes, Lucho
Sunday, December 17th:
Porto x Paços de Ferreira (Portuguese League, 14th round)
4 x 0
Pepe x2, Postiga, Lucho
Sunday, January 7th:
Porto x Atlético (Portuguese Cup, 4th round)
0 x 1
David
Sunday, January 14th:
Aves x Porto (Portuguese League, 15th round)
0 x 2
Quaresma, Lucho
Friday, January 26th:
Leiria x Porto (Portuguese League, 16th round)
1 x 0
Tixier
Saturday, February 3rd:
Porto x E. Amadora (Portuguese League, 17th round)
0 x 1
Anselmo
Friday, February 16th:
Porto x Naval (Portuguese League, 18th round)
4 x 0
Lisandro x2, Lucho, Adriano
Wednesday, February 21st:
Porto x Chelsea (Champions League, Last 16, 1st Leg)
1 x 1
Raul Meireles; Shevchenko
Sunday, February 25th:
Beira-Mar x Porto (Portuguese League, 19th round)
0 x 5
Lisandro, Lucho, Raul Meireles, Alan, Adriano (pen)
Saturday, March 3rd:
Porto x Braga (Portuguese League, 20th round)
1 x 0
Adriano
Tuesday, March 6th:
Chelsea x Porto (Champions League, Last 16, 2nd Leg)
2 x 1
Robben, Ballack; Quaresma
Sunday, March 11th:
Marítimo x Porto (Portuguese League, 21st round)
1 x 2
Douglas; Adriano, Raúl Meireles
Saturday, March 17th:
Porto x Sporting (Portuguese League, 22nd round)
0 x 1
Tello
Sunday, April 1st:
Benfica x Porto (Portuguese League, 23rd round)
1 x 1
Lucho (o.g.); Pepe
Friday, April 6th:
Porto x Setúbal (Portuguese League, 24th round)
5 x 1
Jorginho, Adriano x2, Postiga, Anderson; Bruno Ribeiro
Saturday, April 14th:
Académica x Porto (Portuguese League, 25th round)
1 x 2
Lino (pen); Bruno Alves, Adriano
Sunday, April 22nd:
Porto x Belenenses (Portuguese League, 26th round)
3 x 1
Adriano, Lucho (pen), Bruno Alves; Nivaldo
Saturday, April 28th:
Boavista x Porto (Portuguese League, 27th round)
2 x 1
Ricardo Silva, Zé Manuel; Lucho (pen)
Saturday, May 5th:
Porto x Nacional (Portuguese League, 28th round)
2 x 0
Anderson, Fucile
Sunday, May 13th:
Paços de Ferreira x Porto (Portuguese League, 29th round)
1 x 1
Antunes; Adriano
Sunday, May 20th:
Porto x Aves (Portuguese League, 30th round)
4 x 1
Adriano, Lisandro x2, Jorge Ribeiro (o.g.); Moreira
Top Scorers:
Lucho 12
Adriano 12
Postiga 11
Lisandro 11
Quaresma 8
FORÇA PORTO!
MaSsiVe 10-07-2006, 04:43:PM Hugo Almeida has been loaned to Bremen with buying option at the end of the season :(
I wish him to do well and prove his worth in Germany, the kid's such a great prospect....let's hope he can become Portugal's future main striker.
goo luck to Hugo :jap:
Paulo Da Silva 10-07-2006, 07:23:PM Almeida won;t see a game. He's behind Klose, and Klasnic.
should have gone to another team, prferably in England
bmpv666 10-07-2006, 09:41:PM is Hesselink confirmed? i thought he wasn't so far...
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 01:01:AM he isn't confirmed yet for all I know....and I f'cking hope he doesn't come :(
Jannes 11-07-2006, 02:01:AM Almeida won;t see a game. He's behind Klose, and Klasnic.
should have gone to another team, prferably in England
he will play. klasnic was some game´s on the bench, and the former 3nd striker of bremen played every game. sometimes subbed in, but sometimes in the starting 11, too
rlrao1987 11-07-2006, 02:17:AM this is the best thread of all the teams. hats off to you all!
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 03:49:AM how flattering, thanks for the compliment dude :$
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 05:47:AM the Tarik Sektioui rumour was again brought to life by Dutch paper De Telegraaf, and it seems like some guy from AZ confirmed the negotiations.
like...we don't need another right-winger, especially a 29 year-old.
we have Quaresma, Alan (ok he's not great, but still), and I'd definitely give a chance to Vieirinha this season.
bmpv666 11-07-2006, 08:59:AM and i heard this guy isn't nothing special...Porto signings are disappointing me, we are signing lots of foreigners of doubtful quality, and we are letting go young Portuguese players that definitely are not behind the players coming in... :nape:
SCP19O6 11-07-2006, 09:51:AM Sorry, guys, but from what I read here (http://www.ojogo.pt/22-140/Artigo565621.htm) this seems to be a Sonkaya II.
And like Massive said, you already have good players for that position, unless there's a sell of Quaresma in preparation.
Pic Boy 11-07-2006, 09:54:AM No, Tarik Sektioui is definately better then Sonkaya, and he also plays left winger.
Silencer 11-07-2006, 10:01:AM Sektioui is always dangerous when he is near the goal, fast with the ball, gives good passes and works very hard, he is definitely one of the best players at AZ Alkmaar. Vennegoor scores goals but for me he is mediocre, never liked him and he didn't convinced me when he came on as a sub against Portugal :nape:
I think Sektioui will give you fans a few nice surprises because I've read today that the deal is done! 1 Million Euro's.
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 03:23:PM yup, the deal seems to be done.
Silencer's words gave me new hope over the Tarik signing, I hope he's as useful as you reckon dude....
about Venegoor, I'm sorry to hear that he's as bad as I think he is :(
I don't see us selling Quaresma right now SCP, that would be one of the dumbest move ever.
maybe Tarik can do ok in the left wing, by now we only have Diogo Valente to fill that spot and he's still young and inexperienced.
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 03:44:PM btw,
Sonkaya, Postiga and Peixoto have all been released by Co, now it's a matter of selling them.
Postiga and Peixoto won't be difficult to place, but man wtf are we going to do with Sonkaya :nape:
on another note, instead of what had been rumoured, seems like Benni McCarthy will be part of the squad :amika:
I prefer to keep him and then just let him decide his future at the end of the season, rather than selling him right now for a piss poor fee.
I've always liked his lazy ass for some reason, so I'll be glad to have him with us for another season.
Tajike 11-07-2006, 04:47:PM yup, the deal seems to be done.
Silencer's words gave me new hope over the Tarik signing, I hope he's as useful as you reckon dude....
about Venegoor, I'm sorry to hear that he's as bad as I think he is :(
I don't see us selling Quaresma right now SCP, that would be one of the dumbest move ever.
maybe Tarik can do ok in the left wing, by now we only have Diogo Valente to fill that spot and he's still young and inexperienced.
Tottaly the opposite with me: I really believe we shot ourselves in the feet with Tarik. Why do we need a 29-year old mediocre player on a position where we have a) one of Portugal's best players and b) one of our best prospects (yes, I like Diogo Valente).
On the Vennegoor-case: I actually like him a lot. I've seen him play quite some times (live and television) and he doesn't need much to score. Prefer him over Benni... You can compare him with our Adriano, only VoH is a more clinical striker.
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 05:11:PM different points of view mate....I really believe VoH sucks major ass :(
I also like Diogo Valente, the thing is that he's our only pure left winger right now and in case he doesn't grab the spot firmly we'd have to put Lisandro there which would be a waste of talent. Lisandro must play a striker role or just behind it.
Tarik is another option for the flanks, if you read my earlier thoughts on the deal you noticed that I didn't agree with him coming, but Silencer's words kind of made me think that maybe he can in fact be useful to the team.....
lets wait and see, the truth is that I never watched Tarik closely and am looking forward to watch him play to see what he can do.
Silencer 11-07-2006, 05:25:PM VoH is very overrated :nape: and to pay this much for him Porto must be nutsss :o You can get a much better striker for that money.
What about Saviola he is clubless it seems and he is a far better striker than VoH :jambo:
EDIT: IT'S OFFICIAL, Sektioui signed for 3 years with Porto and will be expected there any day now. I will keep following this guy. I watched him when he played for Willem II (my hometown team) and his progress with AZ and now Porto I'm really happy for him. Good luck Tarik :ewan:
MaSsiVe 11-07-2006, 05:41:PM Saviola....we wished :(
bmpv666 11-07-2006, 10:24:PM Saviola won't come to Porto, even if he is offered at no cost. why? well, because Saviola doens't suck. and at the moment, Porto only signs players that suck. :rolleyes:
Tajike 14-07-2006, 10:32:AM Well, it's official: we missed out on a player who I regard as one of the more prolific strikers in Europe:
FC Porto ziet af van Vennegoor
PORTO - FC Porto ziet af van verdere pogingen om PSV-aanvaller Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink naar Portugal te halen.
Volgens de voorzitter van de club, João Pinto Da Costa, kan en wil de landskampioen de transfersom voor de lange Oranje-international niet betalen. Naar verluidt verlangt PSV zo’n zes miljoen euro voor Vennegoor.
,,Als geld geen probleem geweest was, hadden we Deco of Ricardo Carvalho wel gehaald,’’ sprak Pinto da Costa in de Portugese krant O’Jogo. ,,De trainer wil Vennegoor of Hesselink graag hebben, maar momenteel acht ik de kans klein dat hij ook daadwerkelijk komt. We willen ons niet te diep in de schulden steken voor één speler.’’
Vennegoor of Hesselink heeft in Eindhoven nog een contract tot medio 2008. Hij kwam in vijf seizoenen PSV tot 86 doelpunten in 212 officiële wedstrijden. Nu de transfer naar FC Porto van de baan kan de spits komend seizoen toetreden tot een illuster gezelschap. Hij kan als veertiende speler in de PSV-historie de grens van honderd officiële doelpunten bereiken.
Basicly says we can't cough up the 2 extra million to reach their demand of 6M. PDC also said that if money wouldn't be a problem he would also try to get Deco and Carvalho back but he doesn't want to buy a player that will cause a debt for the club. There's also the confirmation that VoH was a personal choice of CoA.
They conclude by saying that VoH can become the 14th player in the history of PSV to reach the 100-goal mark now that he stays, after having scored 86 goals in 5 seasons (212 games).
Excuse me as I am going to cry in a dark little corner...
MaSsiVe 14-07-2006, 02:41:PM can't say I'm sad dude, those are awesome news (H)(Y)
I hope Adriaanse has another option kept in his mind, a better one obviously.
In Holland, I'd maybe try to get Charisteas from Ajax.
Silencer 14-07-2006, 03:33:PM can't say I'm sad dude, those are awesome news (H)(Y)
I hope Adriaanse has another option kept in his mind, a better one obviously.
In Holland, I'd maybe try to get Charisteas from Ajax.
You can forget about Charisteas, he will not only be more worth then that nobody VoH but he said in an interview this week that he won't leave Ajax and he is 100% sure about that. He wants to compete with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (our nr 1 striker) and Markus Rosenberg for a spot in the selection with our new coach Henk ten Cate. He doesn't care if he needs to sit on the bench either he is NOT leaving Ajax (his words)
He scored already 8 goals for us in friendly games this week (Y)
This is the source:
Charisteas blijft voor 100%
Translation: Charisteas is staying for 100%
''Ik blijf voor honderd procent bij Ajax'', die woorden sprak Angelos Charisteas vanavond tegenover Elf nadat hij voor Ajax viermaal had gescoord in de oefenwedstrijd tegen de amateurs van De Lutte (18-0).
Translation: I'm staying for 100% at Ajax, those words were spoken by Angelos Charisteas tonight after he scored 4 times in a practisegame against amateurclub de Lutte (18-0)
''Er is een nieuwe trainer, dus zijn er nieuwe kansen. Daar wil ik voor gaan, al besef ik dat het niet makkelijk zal zijn gezien de aanwezigheid van Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. Hij is een Nederlandse jongen en erg populair bij het publiek.
Translation: There is a new coach so there are new chances, I want to go for that, I realise it won't be easy because of Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. He's a Dutch guy and extremely popular with the fans.
Maar als ik de wel de voorkeur krijg, kan ik maar zo 25 goals maken dit seizoen.''
Translation: But if I will be picked, then it can happen that I score like 25 goals this season.
So sorry but "Harry" stays with us :rolleyes:
Aren't there any good strikers in Portugal??
MaSsiVe 14-07-2006, 03:48:PM hey Charisteas was just an idea that came to my mind as I consider him to be a good striker and Co is searching players through the Dutch football market, there aren't even any rumours of a Porto interest in him.
about the good strikers in Portugal issue, lets just say that the good ones are already taken by the best teams.
still, there aren't many good options unfortunately.
Silencer 14-07-2006, 05:13:PM Must be otherwise you don't want a striker like VoH and I was so hoping he would go to Porto so that we in Holland are finally rid of him :rolleyes:
MaSsiVe 14-07-2006, 06:49:PM well as an Ajax fan you should be happy if he was to remain at PSV given that he sucks as much as you say.
either way if he doesn't come to Porto he'll most probably leave Holland anyway, I read Porto are not the only team interested.
Tajike 14-07-2006, 07:24:PM Must be otherwise you don't want a striker like VoH and I was so hoping he would go to Porto so that we in Holland are finally rid of him :rolleyes:
An Ajax-fan throwing mud at an PSV-player to convince fans of other teams how crap he is...? You got to love clubitis :p
btw If he's so bad: why do you want him to leave Holland?
Silencer 14-07-2006, 08:01:PM Because me (and every other Ajaxfan) can't stand the bugger :p :chew:
MaSsiVe 15-07-2006, 05:04:AM Arveladze gave an interview to oJogo to mainly talk about Tarik, and he left a hint to Co:
Kluivert is free.
ok he's 30 now, but for me it actually wouldn't be a bad move at all considering that I've always loved to see him play.
I really hope Co gets to read the interview and takes that possibility into account (Y)
MaSsiVe 16-07-2006, 05:08:AM Está desfeito o enigma. Adriaanse regressou às conferências de imprensa bem ao seu estilo. A novidade foi, ontem, a confirmação de um lugar no plantel para o sul-africano: “McCarthy está bem e vai ficar entre nós, tal como no ano passado. Conto com ele.”
good news if you ask me, I prefer to keep his lazy yet talented ass with us for another season rather than sell him now for a miserable fee.
who knows, maybe he has a good season and justifies an extension to his contract :brow:
heh, on another note we beat Cerveira 17-0 in our first pre-season match.
not that it actually means dick but it's better than 3-1 against Tourizense like last year...
and Monday, Holland here we go.
MaSsiVe 17-07-2006, 03:45:AM Sonkaya has been loaned to Académica for one season.
I feel sorry for Vinnie :evil:
speaking of releases, there are 2 players (in case no one else arrives of course) left to let go.
we currently have 27 players in the squad (counting Lucho and R.Costa who are yet to return), Co wants 25 max.
my choices would be Bruno Alves and maybe Bruno Moraes.
even if Moraes hasn't had a chance to prove himself yet, the thing is that I really want us to keep Vieirinha.
Bruno Alves simply sucks.
but I don't know, my guess is that Co will probably drop Moraes and Vieirinha :(
Tajike 17-07-2006, 09:15:AM but I don't know, my guess is that Co will probably drop Moraes and Vieirinha :(
F.C. Porto: talento de Vieirinha e polivalência de Ezequias impressionam Adriaanse
Co Adriaanse parece estar em boa forma. Polidez no discurso em inglês, expressões lusófonas pelo meio e elogios, muitos elogios para os que trabalham a seu lado. Os novos «recrutas» do «batalhão», por exemplo, foram brindados com palavras agradáveis mas que acarretam um elevar de responsabilidades. Ezequias foi o primeiro alvo das mordomias sintácticas de Co Adriaanse.
«Gostei muito da actuação do Ezequias no jogo de hoje. Tem a possibilidade de actuar na esquerda e no meio, tanto na defesa como no meio-campo e é um jogador que me tem agradado nesta primeira semana.» Sem dar espaço a perguntas e a um ritmo constante, Co Adriaanse desfilou pelos nomes dos vários reforços, como que antecipando toda e qualquer dúvida dos jornalistas presentes na sala de imprensa do Olival.
«O João Paulo também se encontra já a um bom nível. É competente na defesa e no meio-campo defensivo. Estou surpreso é com o talento do Vieirinha. É um jovem com uma habilidade natural fantástica e que me tem entusiasmado», prosseguiu, antes de passar para Diogo Valente e Tarik Sektioui, os últimos da lista. «O Diogo vem resolver uma lacuna que tínhamos, relativamente ao número de esquerdinos. Equilibra-nos nessa situação e é também um bom executante. É óptimo poder também contar com o Tarik, que conheço muito bem e que se vai integrar rapidamente.»
Co Adriaanse fez questão de deixar também breves considerações a outro reforço. Chris Kronshorst, o mais recente integrante da equipa técnico, chegado na passada quinta-feira da Holanda. «O Chris é um especialista no desenvolvimento técnico dos jogadores e acho que podemos beneficiar muito com a sua vinda. É um velho conhecido e um homem com um passado importante.»
He really seems to like Vieirinha so I'm putting a bet on Alves and Moraes (*sigh*/expect a lot from the lad but that injury ruined it for him)
On a sidenote:
I'm glad my trust in the buy of Ezequias is warranted by this article. I believe he's an investment for the future and probably one of the most genius things the SAD has ever done.
btw Who were the goalscorers in that 17-0 game?
BigMac = 2
Ezequias = 1
Vieirinha = 1
Who scored the 13 other goals?
K3nzo 17-07-2006, 11:29:AM If you wanna check some videos of our new winger:
Several goals at google: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sektioui
None great, most are as easy as it gets!
And at Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyF60IBr2Lw
Nice compilation!! I can say he's quick as hell!
MaSsiVe 17-07-2006, 03:29:PM Tajike I read that too, that Co was impressed by Vieirinha and Ezequias.
the thing is that we have so many wingers now, and I fear that even if Co is impressed he decides to loan Vieirinha in order to get him more experience.
Ezequias as I said before can be very useful because of his versatility, he also has great speed and good technique, but he is yet to show what he can do in a bigger team. he has my trust though (Y)
the goalscorers of the 17-0 were not announced, it seems like the press somehow found out about those you've mentioned but nothing else.
given that, you can already see the Record forums flooded with f'cktards claiming that the result is false :funny:
thanks for the links K3nzo, Tarik looking good :brow:
btw I don't know if you read my last posts talking about it, but what do you guys think about Benni staying?
MaSsiVe 18-07-2006, 08:06:PM alright so our first game in Holland just ended, we won 6-0 against Rohda Raalte.
by HT we were already up 4-0.
1st half lineup:
Helton
Pedro Emanuel
Pepe
Cech
Paulo Assunção
Raul Meireles
Ibson
Jorginho
Sektioui
2nd half:
Paulo Ribeiro
Bruno Alves
João Paulo
Ezequias
Raul Meireles
Anderson
Vieirinha
Diogo Valente
Alan
Sokota
McCarthy
goals by Jorginho, Ibson, Meireles, Adriano and 2 from Benni (H)
Vinnie Jones 19-07-2006, 11:25:PM Rofl i thought Académica and Porto had good relations, how could you betray us by loaning Sonkaya? I would sell you Marcel as revenge but Benfica already has him :fool:
MaSsiVe 20-07-2006, 11:44:PM I know Vinnie, it was a low shot :p
anyway we gave you Helder Barbosa and maybe now Bruno Moraes on loan, who may be handy :(
so, 3rd friendly of the pre-season, another confortable win.
9-0 against STEVO Gesteren, halftime we were up 4-0.
goals scored by Benni, Alan, Adriano (pen), Ezequias, Ibson x2, Anderson x2, and Tarik scored his first wearing the Porto shirt (H)
first half team:
Paulo Ribeiro
João Paulo
Bruno Alves
Ezequias
Marek Cech
Diogo Valente
McCarthy
Vieirinha
Alan
Sokota
Adriano
2nd half lineup:
Vítor Baía
Bosingwa
Pepe
Pedro Emanuel
Paulo Assunção
Raul Meireles
Ibson
Jorginho
Tarik
Anderson
Quaresma
seems like Anderson was on fire today (Y)
our match on Saturday at 18h against Groningen will be broadcasted by TVI, good stuff.
it will be cool to watch the team playing stronger opposition too, can't wait to see the new players in action :corn:
MaSsiVe 22-07-2006, 07:45:PM Groningen 2-2 Porto, final score.
both Dutch goals were scored by Nevland, Adriano and Bosingwa for Porto.
first of all, f'ck Bruno Alves.
what a crap excuse for a football player. I still can't understand how he's even in the squad, man :kader:
overall we had an average game.
good game by Bosingwa mainly in the first half, giving a great contribution offensively. in the second half he was more careless, but still managed to have a few good runs forward and grab that late equalizer with a very good play.
Pepe was solid as always (Y)
Meireles had a great game in the midfield, Assunção was his great usual self, plus Anderson got in the match with loads of will and managed to improve our offensive plays especially through the middle.
in the attack I liked Vierinha a lot, really hope Co decides to keep him.
Tarik was no more than average, but it was easy to see that he can be very useful once he gets a good physical condition.
we had more possession, attacked more, but failed to score as much as we should...again :(
Groningen's first goal was so damn lucky, Nevland scores after benefiting of two consecutive rebounds :|, in his second goal I ask: where the f'ck was our defense? :nape:
there's still a lot of work for Co to do, mainly tuning up that defensive line.
can't say I'm satisfied with the team, but the truth is there's still a long way to go before the season actually starts so Co will have enough time to improve our game.
yagami 23-07-2006, 09:13:AM well , if this is ezequias .... then i want sonkaya back , please !
bruno alves , please please go away ... i cannot imagine how fernando santos wanted you so baldly in greece !
vieirinha should be loaned ... preferably to leiria :) HE DESERVES PLAY TIME ! ( not bench time )
Goo Goo boy 24-07-2006, 05:19:AM Man, is Co dumb enough to NOT see we concede in EVERY SINGLE game Bruno Alves "plays".
Man I hate that Alves so very much i can't even express it. And i don't hate that many people.
Please Bruno Alves, leave our club for good as soon as possible.
Any of you guys know the schedule for the Amsterdam tournment?
bmpv666 24-07-2006, 11:46:AM yeah Bruno Alves is soo bad that it just makes me want to :-puke:
Vieirinha on the the other end, has lots of quality. he should stay and play! but if he can't be given any play time, he should be loaned. he needs to play to get more experienced.
Sektioui (or however you sp it...) showed some qualities also, let us wait and see how he adapts to our league
MaSsiVe 24-07-2006, 04:01:PM Any of you guys know the schedule for the Amsterdam tournment?
it's on the first page of the thread dude:
Amsterdam, Holland
Friday, August 4th:
Manchester United x Porto (Amsterdam Tournament)
Amsterdam, Holland
Saturday, August 5th:
Inter Milan x Porto (Amsterdam Tournament)
Vierinha is awesome, I really think he can have a hell of a future.
at only 18 his touch is so classy, he's great at dribbling, fast as f'ck too.....he just needs to gain some pounds to support physical contact better.
I truly hope Co decides to keep him.
Goo Goo boy 24-07-2006, 10:45:PM Vierinha as always been great.
What about his goal against Nigeria in the u-17 WC from coast to coast..
He's very good and mature. He has already played so many important matches and managed to be the best Marco's player last year in the cup against us.
IMO he's more than ready to belong to this year's first squad, no more loans for the so-called experience. He's a much better winger than many we've bought these past years.
And Paulo Machado should be in the squad too, Joao Paulo is a good replacement for Pepe but not for Assunçao, he lacks a lot of skill, pace and agility to play in the midfield.
Oh boy, I'm so glad the golden boys from the u-17 Euro are doing well. Although Márcio Sousa "Maradona" confirmed he isn't phisically able to play senior football.
Massive, thanks and sorry for the distraction. Two games in two days is freakin stupid but I guess there's no other way since the tournment happens very late in the pre-season.
MaSsiVe 24-07-2006, 11:05:PM no problem dude.
and yeah Marcio Sousa has a fabulous left foot, I wonder when will he take the next step....he's been around for years now, last time I heard of him he was playing (wonderfuly) some Under17 or so competition for Portugal so I expect to see him get senior football in the next couple of years. not saying a first team spot at Porto, but at least loaned to some random Liga Betadine team.
about João Paulo, I still think he was our best buy for this season.
ok maybe he's not technically good enough to play the holding midfielder position as consistently as Assunção, but he can do the job.
plus I think he's the perfect sub for a player like Pepe within our squad, he's also very secure and quick. I'd definitely put him playing a CB role, not so much in the midfield.
Machado is still too raw to play for Porto IMHO....
I just hope we get rid of Alves....he's among the worst players to ever wear the Porto jersey. hopefully Co will wake the f'ck up just in time to drop him.
btw it seems like Benni is on his way to Blackburn....wish his lazy yet extremely talented ass all the luck in the world.
I'll never ever forget how important he was in both matches against ManU in the season we won the CL.
THANK YOU :Bow: Benni
MaSsiVe 25-07-2006, 05:42:AM we'll play against Roma for the "apresentação aos sócios" match next Sunday at 20h15, and it will be televised by TVI (Y)
Parasol 25-07-2006, 11:17:AM we'll play against Roma for the "apresentação aos sócios" match next Sunday at 20h15, and it will be televised by TVI (Y)
guess this is as away as the SAD can be from SD, since they support Lazio and will get their main rivals, ASROMA (6) for squad presentation
you guys got some good games this pre-season... Roma... Man Utd... Inter... ;)
MaSsiVe 25-07-2006, 03:50:PM yeah it'll be nice to play against such strong oposition, results don't really matter at this stage (wins do bring confidence though) but they're definitely gonna be good tests.
you're saying the Super Retards support Lazio, based on what?
those are news to me :confused:....but not surprising if true.
Parasol 25-07-2006, 03:57:PM yeah it'll be nice to play against such strong oposition, results don't really matter at this stage (wins do bring confidence though) but they're definitely gonna be good tests.
you mean, you didn't knew this? It's more than known by now that lazio supporters of Irriducibili are one of the strongest allies and references from the SD main crew.
if you want some references for supporters on each country, between Portugal and Italy:
Porto SD --> Lazio
Benfica DV --> Roma
Sporting JL --> Fiorentina
it's kinda normal to see references to these teams supporters inside the national curvas.
MaSsiVe 25-07-2006, 04:26:PM I never noticed that....maybe because I don't care really, for me the SD do not represent FC Porto at all. and the institution gladly seems to think that way too nowadays.
btw I watched a report on TV some time ago about the extreme right-wing in Portugal (politically speaking), which had active members among the Sporting tiffosi....must say I was shocked.
not that it matters, football and politics should never be part of each other.
Virgo 25-07-2006, 04:34:PM about the Benni transfer, the fee seems kinda low doesn't it? I mean you've had 9M€ offers a couple of years ago and rejected them
MaSsiVe 25-07-2006, 04:48:PM sure does but it's better than nothing given the circumstances, Co still wants Hesselink and this extra 2.5 million € may help finishing up the deal...not that I'd be glad about it :rolleyes:
tbh I would give him the chance to stay for another season with us, and who knows maybe he would've had a good year and therefore justify an extension to his contract.
in case that wasn't to happen, right now we'd be throwing away 2.5 million €.....
and he always wanted to play in the EPL, so it's cool for him.
K3nzo 25-07-2006, 11:32:PM PDCosta says Hesselink subject is over, he wont come! It's on FCPorto official site.
«O F.C. Porto manifestou junto do PSV a vontade de garantir os direitos desportivos do atleta Hesselink, mas as conversações não foram concluídas, uma vez que o clube holandês se manteve intransigente em relação ao valor do passe do atleta, considerando por isso o F.C. Porto o assunto encerrado», explicou Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa.
http://www.fcporto.pt/Info/Futebol/Noticias/infofut_futpintocostadec_250706_20639.asp
What now? Will he still be the surprise next saturday agaisnt Roma or can we expect another striker? Tristan like :shinji: says?
MaSsiVe 25-07-2006, 11:42:PM PdC discarded the Tristan possibility but hey, in football you never know.
he's no longer what he used to be but still a valid choice...let's wait and see.
btw today we had another friendly against another crap team...another big win, this time 13-0 against Rigtersbleek.
goal scorers:
Bruno Moraes x3 (Y), Adriano x2, Quaresma x2, Vieirinha x2 (H), Jorginho, Raul Meireles, João Paulo and Tarik.
can't wait for the Roma, ManU and Inter matches. now those are gonna be fun :corn:
MaSsiVe 26-07-2006, 05:41:PM RTP announced they will broadcast our match vs. Heracles tomorrow, starting at 18h or so (Y)
::shinji:: 27-07-2006, 05:58:PM 1-0 for Porto at HT
nice work from Ibson on that goal, Vieirinha seems like he's gonna be a great player with time, entertaining to watch down the wing...
hehe, Sektioui looks like a real sh!t signing (Y)
MaSsiVe 27-07-2006, 06:04:PM Tarik's been crap so far today, but I read he made good things in the other matches...not that the opponents were any good though :(
Vieirinha is awesome, Anderson is awesome, Ibson is awesome and Bruno Moraes is showing something too....it's great to have such talented youngsters in the squad :junior:
MaSsiVe 27-07-2006, 06:54:PM FT 1-0, what a CRAP second half :nape:
Virgo 27-07-2006, 07:26:PM next week's games will give a much better look at the team's real value.
Paulo Da Silva 27-07-2006, 09:39:PM Vierinha better stay in the team and Alan can go **** himself and find a new team. I hope Bruno Moraes has a chance this year and gets no more injuries
MaSsiVe 27-07-2006, 10:27:PM spot on Virgo, Roma, ManU and Inter are gonna be the real tests...at least they're going to try to win the match unlike this sh'tty teams we've playing against.
Goo Goo boy 30-07-2006, 02:37:AM Man, we gotta watch out Sporting, they are freaking scary to me. To be honest, I'm glad there's such a well-structured portuguese team (apart from good-old Porto) playing the Champions League, but we need to be really focused this year in our domestic league, I don't see them wasting many points.
Looking forward to tomorrow's game
MaSsiVe 30-07-2006, 09:20:PM Porto x Roma 1-0 FT, own goal by Mexes (N)
man what a dull match, neither team put on a good show....
a word for Pepe, Anderson, Ibson, Diogo Valente (btw, LMFAO at his hair) and Bruno Moraes who had a good game, besides them everyone else was pretty much either average or crap.
the Amsterdam Tournament matches will be harder, and I expect the team to play with much more passion then or else we seriously risk getting our asses whooped :rolleyes:
btw loved seeing both kits in action, especially the orange one looks very sharp (Y)
also moving the Champions logo from the left sleeve to the chest was cool.
bmpv666 31-07-2006, 09:55:AM yes the new kits look great, and the new position for the Quinas (champions symbol) is exelent! :D
about the performance, well i don't know if we could expect more. the players must be very tired from the training beating they got in Holland, maybe in Amesterdam they can be a bit better. though i don't believe in miracles.
btw, with Anderson we will have again a true playmaker! :lui:
and the kid already plays like he was 20 something, he is very mature. he's the player to watch out during this season.
MaSsiVe 31-07-2006, 04:18:PM yeah maybe the players were too tired to do better, the thing is that I'm anxious to watch us putting on a solid performance as soon as possible.....it's gonna be a looong season.
Anderson is amazing, nuff said :jambo:
btw Co assured that he was gonna stick with Bruno Moraes for sure, I think it was a brilliant decision by him as the kid's been showing a lot of talent.
sadly, he got injured again after yesterday's match and will probably be sidelined by 3 to 4 weeks :(
here's hoping he gets well soon....
anyway Co definitely wants another striker, and it couldn't be any other way really.
press are talking he's eyeing another Dutch player, but tbh I have no idea who that could be.
on another news, the shirt numbers have been revealed:
1 - Helton
2 - Ricardo Costa
3 - Pepe
4 - Pedro Emanuel
5 - Cech
6 - Ibson
7 - Quaresma
8 - Lucho González
9 - Lisandro
10 - Anderson
11 - Tarik
12 - Bosingwa
14 - Bruno Alves
15 - Ezequias
16 - Raul Meireles
17 - Vieirinha
18 - Paulo Assunção
19 - Sokota
20 - Jorginho
21 - Alan
24 - Paulo Ribeiro
26 - João Paulo
28 - Adriano
29 - Bruno Moraes
31 - Diogo Valente
99 - Vítor Baía
Anderson #10 :sun:
Lisandro wearing #9 is also an interesting fact, I really hope Co gives him more playtime this season.
Tajike 31-07-2006, 07:00:PM hehe, Sektioui looks like a real sh!t signing
I love being right (H)
I'm developing some like for this year's team (something which didn't happen this early last year):
- Ezequias is growing on me and looks more and more like an undiscovered gem.
- João Paulo is indeed our best buy of the pre-season *cough* hope he takes Pepe's spot *cough*
- Moraes and Vieirinha on fire is fun to witness, though I don't believe we will see much of Bruno during the season...
- Anderson: I take everything back I said of him last season. Genius in the making.
I still hope we get to see VoH in the blue-and-white, something which would complete my wet dream.
My take on this season's team:
Helton
Bosingwa - João Paulo - Ezequias/Cech
Assunção
Vieirinha - Lucho - Anderson
Quaresma - Moraes/VoH/random name yet to be presented - Adriano
MaSsiVe 31-07-2006, 07:54:PM man I really don't understand what's your problem with Pepe, he's simply our best defender by far....
each to his own though ;)
I'd go with:
Helton
Bosingwa
Pepe
Emanuel
Assunção
Lucho
Ibson
Anderson
Vierinha
Quaresma
class striker who's yet to come, definitely not VoH (6)
first option subs:
João Paulo (dispite playing like absolute crap yesterday, I trust him)
Cech
Meireles
Lisandro
Adriano
Moraes
MaSsiVe 02-08-2006, 05:23:PM another pre-season friendly has been scheduled, to be played tomorrow.
opponents are amateur Dutch side SO Soest....I hope this match doesn't affect the players physical condition in a bad way, we have to put on a good fight against the likes of ManU and Inter in the weekend....
btw,
"O F.C. Porto estava num nível superior, venceu a Taça UEFA e a Liga dos Campeões, mas está pior desde a saída de Mourinho», considera McCarthy.
no sh't Benni :|
MaSsiVe 03-08-2006, 05:37:AM it seems like yet another friendly has been scheduled :| next Tuesday against Rijnsburgse Boys (don't ask me who the f'ck those are).
and Ricardo Costa, after Marseille and Rennes is now also being linked with Fulham and B. Dortmund...I really don't think he'll leave us anyway.
bmpv666 03-08-2006, 06:38:PM those Benni statements are too obvious to be even news IMO :rolleyes:
MaSsiVe 04-08-2006, 05:46:PM Porto x ManU 0-2 HT
dispite the result we're playing quite well, in fact before the 2-0 arrived we were even being better.
they scored in their first shot of the match (11') with a long range shot and then a f'ck up by Bosingwa gave Ronney the second.
after that the match evened up, but we still had more possession, attacks and shots though.
hope we get to score in the second half, but I'm really enjoying our display (Y)
Virgo 04-08-2006, 05:48:PM kinda hard to do anything with your attacking flow when you're playing without pure forwards.
SlowSilver 04-08-2006, 05:49:PM Wow, Porto's defence doesn't look impressive at all. Good attacking display though, very bright. That Tarik fella is damn quick :eek: Generally, Porto have been better than United I would say.
MaSsiVe 04-08-2006, 05:52:PM true Virgo, maybe bringing up Adriano would help us be more clinical in the second half.
we still had our couple of clear chances to score though.
Virgo 04-08-2006, 06:26:PM heh Adriano has been bloody awful.
You guys really need a GOOD striker.
Goo Goo boy 04-08-2006, 06:36:PM We have Lisandro for that place but Co doesn't appreciate him for some reason.
3-0 ****in awful... Today I'm glad i don't have Sporttv.
Edit: Pepe scores! 3-1. Long range shot.
SlowSilver 04-08-2006, 06:37:PM 3-1 actually. A f*cking AWESOME goal by Pepe. Easily the best goal of the lot.
Moreira_Benfica 04-08-2006, 06:44:PM how was the goal?
SlowSilver 04-08-2006, 06:51:PM Pepe was about 25yds out, the ball rolled to him...he gave the ball an absolute wallop and it just flew into the top corner. It was one of those goals where you knew it was going to be a goal as soon as it left his foot.
Porto's defence looks a mess. However this is only based on what I saw today.
MaSsiVe 04-08-2006, 06:55:PM SlowSilver about our defense, one has to understand that we play with 3 defenders only so we get more fragile against counter-attacking play....like you guys did, mostly in the second half.
the thing is that our coach really wants to put us playing flowing attacking football and he is succeding, but that takes up a bit of our defensive security.
it's still the pre-season though, within time we'll get better.
we had a good match dispite the score, can't really point out a player who did badly...maybe Adriano because of the sh'tload of goals he missed.
Helton could have done better in the 3rd goal too btw.....
bmpv666 04-08-2006, 06:58:PM Bosingwa today -> :sb9:
can someone please explain to me, how on Earth Porto playing against 9 players are unable to attack decently and concede a goal? :nape:
MaSsiVe 04-08-2006, 07:03:PM if the ball had gone in you wouldn't be saying our attack was not decent.
we had very good build-up plays, nice crossing, created a LOT of chances, but failed to capitalize.
blame Adriano who on his own missed at least 3 tap-in headers.
ouir defense on the other hand must improve massively mainly with leading with counter-attacks.
Goo Goo boy 04-08-2006, 07:10:PM Why the heck didn't Lisandro get a chence to atleast sit on the bench? wtf?
He's our best striker damnit..
I hope Co isn't thinking of dismissing him.
SlowSilver 04-08-2006, 07:21:PM Bosingwa today -> :sb9:
can someone please explain to me, how on Earth Porto playing against 9 players are unable to attack decently and concede a goal? :nape:
Did you actually watch the match today? Porto had like 20+ attempts on goal to Man Utd's 10 or something. If you guys had a better striker, I have no doubt in my mind Porto would have won or at least drawn.
MaSsiVe 04-08-2006, 07:25:PM fair-play SlowSilver, that's what I'm talking about :jap:
Goo Goo boy 05-08-2006, 05:39:PM Just great, already losing 2-0 against Inter.
Our defense sucks. Big time.
MaSsiVe 05-08-2006, 05:46:PM like I said in the Amsterdam Tournament thread:
we play ball and create sh'tloads of chances, our opponents score in basically every time they shoot.
cruel and embarassing :nape:
PSVFOREVER 05-08-2006, 05:47:PM Make that 3-0, Porto's playing really bad. Although they do get some chances.
Goo Goo boy 05-08-2006, 05:47:PM 3-0!!! WTF? Man, someone has to be responsible for this. How can we even get past the group phase in the CL if we can't finish a half-time not being atleast two goals down.
Man, I'm pissed.
MaSsiVe 05-08-2006, 05:48:PM Porto's defense playing really bad
fixed.
Goo Goo boy 05-08-2006, 06:49:PM I'm so annoyed with our defensive chaos and so glad Marek scored a bycicle kick. Those are my feelings towards this game i didn't see.
yagami 05-08-2006, 08:43:PM i am kinda happy !!
we are again playing great football !
and we still have time to buy a forward !
last season we also started like this , then we got to play really bad. hope this season , we can keep this up and improve it ( actually start winning )
MaSsiVe 06-08-2006, 12:28:AM the players know each other better, Co knows the players better too, so I don't think they will "unlearn" all they've been doing....our attacking play has been really exciting, with brilliant moments at times....but we definitely need a clinic finisher.
what truly worries me is our defense, even if we can only really judge from the ManU match, since against Inter freakin Bruno Alves was playing :boohoo:
R. Costa has just arrived from vacations so we have to give him a break, Ezequias is new in the squad....and they were playing among a secondary lineup too....we'll improve, I'm confident we will.
I trust our coach and our players, and I'm really looking forward to the season start....
acredito que podemos fazer coisas bonitas :amika:
Yossarian 06-08-2006, 04:56:PM Is Quaresma your most valuable asset at the moment? That kid is ******* sick, man. I don't know how he'd translate his game to the Serie A, but I think that he's your best player.....your most Negro Dynamistic individual.
Do you think that he could be pried away from your club for like 8-12millionn euros?
MaSsiVe 06-08-2006, 06:10:PM I'd say he is our most valuable player, but together with Lucho.
Lucho was a fundamental piece last season for us, just as much as Quaresma if not more.
If Quaresma has a season as good as the past one, I really don't see us selling him for less than 15-20 million €.
his value will especially rise after we win this year's CL :lui:
:(
Tajike 06-08-2006, 10:14:PM 3-0!!! WTF? Man, someone has to be responsible for this. How can we even get past the group phase in the CL if we can't finish a half-time not being atleast two goals down.
Man, I'm pissed.
The CL is nothing compared to a Dutch over-estimated funhouse tournament. Don't worry, I can't imagine CoA to start Bruno 'the ****-up' Alves, Ricardo 'I have no clue, baby' Costa and 'Calamity' Alan in one and the same team in a serious game of football.
How bad is João Paulo's injury?
MaSsiVe 07-08-2006, 12:48:AM probably months :(
yagami 07-08-2006, 01:36:AM 'Calamity' Alan
that same alan , sent a ball to the post , in the best play in the game.
Goo Goo boy 07-08-2006, 06:07:AM that same alan , sent a ball to the post , in the best play in the game.
Yeah, he was to feckin greedy to pass the ball to his two partners in awesome positions in the box.
He's one of the dumbest players i've seen, he's annoyingly predictable in everything he does and he gets shaky in important moments; he is clumsy as hell with the ball on his feet aswell.
He's far far far away from being an asset to our team, I have no doubts about that.
The only thing he's good at is running, but then again, all the other team has to do is to use a fast Side Back. If you want fast, we can get Obikwelu, i bet we can get him for a low fee, afterall athletes don't earn that much in this country.
Tajike 07-08-2006, 10:00:AM that same alan , sent a ball to the post , in the best play in the game.
Best.Reply.Ever.
Made me go all giggly...
probably months
Oh man, I don't know what's worse: him being injured that long or knowing we'll be stuck with Pepe for that period? :nape:
MaSsiVe 07-08-2006, 10:13:AM :nape: you and your pet hate for Pepe (H)
Goo Goo boy 07-08-2006, 10:49:AM Pepe is and has always been GREAT. Long live the Pepe !
All said
MaSsiVe 07-08-2006, 11:25:AM he was a major f'ck up in the first season with us, but meanwhile developed into a top class CB.
I wouldn't trade him for anyone atm, he suits our defensive style perfectly and is irreplaceable.
Pepe
:Bow:
MaSsiVe 07-08-2006, 02:37:PM seems like João Paulo's injury is not as bad as initially thought :)
João Paulo, defesa/médio do F.C. Porto, tem uma rotura parcial de um ligamento do joelho esquerdo. O centrocampista, que se lesionou frente ao Inter de Milão, foi submetido esta segunda-feira a exames de reavaliação e o diagnóstico não é tão grave quanto se supunha. Inicialmente, pensou-se que teria havido uma rotura total, que significaria uma paragem nunca inferior a quatro meses mas, desta forma, é quase certo que o jogador regressará à competição mais cedo.
Is Quaresma your most valuable asset at the moment? That kid is ******* sick, man. I don't know how he'd translate his game to the Serie A, but I think that he's your best player.....your most Negro Dynamistic individual.
Do you think that he could be pried away from your club for like 8-12millionn euros?
It would be nice if Quaresma could train with Figo for a season. He still has a bit of maturing to do before he's truly world class.
RuiCosta_10 09-08-2006, 12:00:PM :ewan: Adriaanse
NightCrawler 09-08-2006, 12:04:PM Just saw it on Record... WTF???
Parasol 09-08-2006, 12:05:PM Just saw it on Record... WTF???
crybabie... :ewan:
K3nzo 09-08-2006, 12:43:PM One striker... couldnt we get one striker? :kader:
::shinji:: 09-08-2006, 12:48:PM you guys had Benni and Hugo Almeida, Adriaanse didn't want them.. Hesselink wouldn't have been much better than these two IMO
Goo Goo boy 09-08-2006, 01:51:PM I hope it's not true, although it was predictable cos i had never seen a Porto's coach making public demands, pressuring Pinto da Costa publicly, crying for something i call a waste of money.
With so many good strikers around the world he had to pick his dutch overrated boys. I won't even mention Strikers' names(Zigic is tall as hell and scores lots of goals for instance), it would get me frustrated with this whole situation.
I'm now going to cross my fingers so that this doesn't become more than a false gossip, cause i like Co and i think he is the best man to manage the team in the next 2 years (maybe even more).
MaSsiVe 09-08-2006, 05:40:PM he may have a big mouth but the truth is that I really fancied the man's mentality.
I thought that this season we were gonna do well in every competition under his guidance...
...but nothing is lost :jambo:
like Vinnie said, Bicho is the right man for the right job (H)
MaSsiVe 09-08-2006, 07:00:PM Postiga is going to be reinstated in the squad next Monday :kader:
at least I hope they decide to do the same with Peixoto...
SCP19O6 09-08-2006, 07:30:PM There goes the signing of a new striker.
Goo Goo boy 10-08-2006, 01:43:AM Jorge Costa as coach? NO WAY dude, not in the next years, seriously, NO!
Bring Pekerman. He's a hell of a coach, he knows Lucho and Lisandro already and he sure has a vaste knowledge of Argentina's top strikers that don't play in rich leagues.
Cavenaghi and Lisandro would be fine. Saviola would probably come if he talked to him. And there are many others.
The thing is. I have no clue if he's available (is he still managing Argentina's National team?) or how expensive he'd be.
MaSsiVe 10-08-2006, 02:44:AM about Pekerman, him leaving Javier Zanetti out of the WC squad is enough for me to say no.
not to mention his first RB option was Burdisso.
Goo Goo boy 10-08-2006, 03:10:AM I'd love him if he sent Bruno Alves to where he belongs. Basketball or somethin.
My shortlist of managers to hire:
1 - Emerson Leão - I'd wet my pants
2 - Jesualdo Ferreira - Possible but it would ruin Boavista's season and I wouldn't like that. And he doesn't seem the kind of guy to do such thing.
3 - Hiddink - Impossible
4 - Pekerman - Cool
5 - Camacho - Nice but he's very expensive and he went through a lot at Benfica. I believe Porto wouldn't be his first choice, so he better go somewhere else, or stay out of the game like he's been doing for the last seasons.
MaSsiVe 10-08-2006, 04:05:AM out of those, Camacho would be my choice even though like you said he has a "relationship" with Benfica.
anyway, the one that comes will surely dump Alves, or at least simply not play him at all...I never understood what Co likes about the absolute liability he is (:/)
Parasol 10-08-2006, 08:41:AM Bring Pekerman. He's a hell of a coach, he knows Lucho and Lisandro already and he sure has a vaste knowledge of Argentina's top strikers that don't play in rich leagues.
Cavenaghi and Lisandro would be fine. Saviola would probably come if he talked to him. And there are many others.
The thing is. I have no clue if he's available (is he still managing Argentina's National team?) or how expensive he'd be.
WTF? You must remember Porto has no money to bring in Hesselink, they will have to bring Cavenaghi or Saviola? lol
good luck hinting the new coach.
Goo Goo boy 10-08-2006, 09:29:AM out of those, Camacho would be my choice even though like you said he has a "relationship" with Benfica.
anyway, the one that comes will surely dump Alves, or at least simply not play him at all...I never understood what Co likes about the absolute liability he is (:/)
The thing is, i don't believe it was something that Co decided...
Bruno Alves is the son of an ex-player and he has always been protected by the people at charge, he's like Miguel Veloso, if their fathers were "common" people they wouldn't be playing in such a high level. My friends that have played with those two when they were juniores refer to them both as absolute flops.
I'm affraid we'll have to put up with that loser, no matter which coach we get.
Parasol: You're absolutely right. The thing is, I think we have the money, but Pinto da Costa and the board of directors (or whatever they're called) were more than relutant to pay 8 million euros for Hesselink. And that's where the issue was, the board didn't trust Co enough to give away 8 000 000 euros for a player they were unsure at. And I think that's very reasonable. Too bad for Co.
Anyway, this is only what i see behind this all, cause in our club nothing comes perfectly clear to public.
MaSsiVe 10-08-2006, 11:53:AM I doubt that it was not Co's choice...I mean I believe those kind of situations happen in smaller clubs, but PdC would not allow such thing.
he was gonna jeopardize our team just because of making a favour to someone?
don't think so, really.
Geraldo, Alves brother, is even worse than him. must be a family thing :nape:
Goo Goo boy 10-08-2006, 12:27:PM I doubt that it was not Co's choice...I mean I believe those kind of situations happen in smaller clubs, but PdC would not allow such thing.
he was gonna jeopardize our team just because of making a favour to someone?
don't think so, really.
Geraldo, Alves brother, is even worse than him. must be a family thing :nape:
I find it hard to believe too but it's the only racional excuse i can come up with to explain how such a shiatpoor player is still in the squad after screwing up in every single game he has played.
That same Geraldo was once a hot promise in SLB. I can't say which of them is dumber and the most dirty tackler.
They can be great guys and all, but being a great guy shouldn't be the single requisit to play professional football.
Tiago_10 10-08-2006, 01:20:PM I've read and seen on TV Co saying crap about Porto's squad, that they're dumb, don't have the experience, the quality and no matter how much hard they train they don't improve. So it's more then just about not buying a player.. The players refused to have dinner with him after that, he no longer had the control of the lockeroom. Then Pdc must have told him to stfu or leave and he resigned. Well, at least this makes more sense than leaving just because of a player.
Imo Pekerman or someone foreign would be a good choice for you guys as I don't think there are any portuguese coaches available with the quality to take Porto's squad.
NightCrawler 10-08-2006, 01:25:PM I don't think there are any portuguese coaches available with the quality to take Porto's squad.
Tiago, I think you're forgetting Luis CampAs :)
Parasol 10-08-2006, 05:52:PM Jesualdo Ferreira será o substituto de Co Adriaanse no comando técnico do FC Porto, tendo como adjunto Jorge Costa, garantiu hoje a Rádio Renascença, no programa "Bola Branca".
congratulations on choosing another Benfiquista desde pequenino for your next coach :ewan:
also, sporting will keep their winning streak on the first day of the league.
K3nzo 10-08-2006, 07:38:PM I've read and seen on TV Co saying crap about Porto's squad, that they're dumb, don't have the experience, the quality and no matter how much hard they train they don't improve.
Where?
Jesualdo is a not-as-bad option, at this moment i like it! he knows portuguese football, our squad but he lacks strength! He'll need a strong right-arm, and some already point Jorge Costa!
bmpv666 10-08-2006, 09:18:PM Jesualdo Ferreira (http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=717066&idCanal=4) is being appointed as the next Porto coach by Record...
and damn, i'm still in shock with this episode :|
Tiago_10 10-08-2006, 10:10:PM Where?
In Sic at "Jornal da Tarde" and ojogo.pt respectively.
MaSsiVe 10-08-2006, 11:34:PM Jesualdo Ferreira será o substituto de Co Adriaanse no comando técnico do FC Porto, tendo como adjunto Jorge Costa, garantiu hoje a Rádio Renascença, no programa "Bola Branca".
congratulations on choosing another Benfiquista desde pequenino for your next coach :ewan:
only a rumour, João Loureiro dismissed that possibility :ewan:
btw I only watched the first half of our match vs Pompey, but was very satisfied with our display...the whole team responded well to the present situation, fought for every ball with full dedication...
and Lisandro proved that we can count on him to be our main striker.
Cech is in great form too (Y)
K3nzo 10-08-2006, 11:46:PM 2 given goals but we won!
MaSsiVe 12-08-2006, 07:36:PM Manchester City x Porto 0-1 FT
good game, second half was kind of boring but still a nice test for us.
Ibson MoM hands down, the man was all over the field.
Pepe had a fantastic match too as always, and Adriano scored again but he needs to put more of his chances away.
Paulo Assunção better get to last year's form fast or else I see him losing his spot...he lost too many balls and missed a few simple passes too which is not normal in him.
I really hope he improves his game because he's a massively important presence in our midfield.
btw it's incredible how english teams make 91724892754 fouls per game, several of them violent, and still bitch about every single one given against them :|
Rui Barros is doing a good job so far, who knows if he isn't in fact the right man for the job :amika:
NightCrawler 12-08-2006, 07:51:PM Pedro Emanuel vai ser operado
O defesa-central Pedro Emanuel, que se lesionou durante o aquecimento para o jogo de hoje com o Manchester City, contraiu rotura total do tendão de Aquiles do pé esquerdo, enfrentando operação cirúrgica nos próximos dias.
Pedro Emanuel.
O jogador contraiu a grave lesão no derradeiro movimento efectuado durante os habituais exercícios de aquecimento que precederam a partida com a equipa inglesa, e que os «dragões» venceram por 1-0, com golo do avançado brasileiro Adriano.
Ruined season for Pedro Emanuel
MaSsiVe 12-08-2006, 08:03:PM oh crap, we needed his leadership on and off the field :(
Goo Goo boy 15-08-2006, 07:51:PM So Jesualdo will be our coach afterall.
Sweet.(C)
bmpv666 15-08-2006, 08:49:PM it is great news for us indeed, but now Jesualdo will have a team made at the image of Co...let's see how he will work in those conditions. remember the last time sth like this happenned (2 seasons ago), we had our worst season ever...
MaSsiVe 15-08-2006, 10:54:PM I feel bad for the Boavista fans but will be really glad if Jesualdo signs for us.
he's a great coach, with lots of experience and a respectable posture...and what he did with Braga last season is amazing (Y)
the only problem can be indeed what he'll do with the tactical system implanted by Co. IMHO he should adopt it and build the team around it, I don't see our players readapting themselves to another drastic tactical moves without breaking the team's "fio de jogo"...that may bring some disappointments to the fans in an early stage, I don't wanna go through what we did last year in the CL :nape:
plus he'll always have next pre-season to go back to his own schematics in case things don't go as well as expected.
either way, whoever comes will have my full support until one can actually judge his ability to coach Porto :jambo:
Goo Goo boy 18-08-2006, 10:13:AM Afterall we'll keep a dutch. Will Coort. Which is a very bright idea. He did a wonderful job with the goalkeepers.
Tomorrow comes the first official game. If we're going to play with 4 defenders we need a RB and a CB asap, otherwise it will be just as chaotic as in 2004/2005.
"Os 20 convocados de Rui Barros:
Adriano, Alan, Anderson, Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, Diogo Valente, Ezequias, Helton, Ibson, Jorginho, Lisandro Lopez, Marek Cech, Paulo Assunção, Pepe, Quaresma, Raul Meireles, Ricardo Costa, Tarik, Vieirinha e Vítor Baía."
With these players my line-up would be
--------------Helton/Baía------------
------Bosingwa---Pepe---Cech-------
----------------Assunção------------
----------Ibson-----------Meireles----
----------------Anderson-------------
---Quaresma---------------Vieirinha---
----------------Lisandro---------------
Jorginho, Adriano and Tarik would be the priorities to jump off the bench.
MaSsiVe 19-08-2006, 10:07:PM Porto x Setubal 3-0 FT
yet another Supercup (H)
dudes, what a f'cking great second half from us tonight. first half was pretty much a bore, Setubal played in their usual "táctica do enconanço" which never helps a match being nice to watch.
finally Adriano broke the deadlock with that great bicycle kick (H), and after that we went on to put up a great display.
Anderson is simply amazing, we have one of the best young players worldwide in our hands, we just have to let him play and have fun, add the necessary amount of discipline to his game and that way he'll grow into being a top midfielder.
I just hope we don't lose him in the next couple of seasons :(
awesome match by Ibson too, again. such a refined touch on the ball, such vision on the field.
and Vieirinha, what a f'cking shot for the 3rd goal :rockman:
all this quality youth in our team can only be a great thing for the future (C)
so, first official trophy of the season.....couldn't be happier tbh (H) now lets hope Jesualdo can keep up the good work.
Virgo 19-08-2006, 11:07:PM how in the hell is Jesualdo gonna fit Lucho, Anderson, Assunção and Ibson in that midfield, and that's leaving out Meireles who is also very good. I wish we had that kind of depth.
Tajike 20-08-2006, 12:54:PM A little review which I posted at FCPortoWorld, so I appologize in advance for the strange style of writing.
Came back...
Just in time...
From chilling out...
For a week...
To watch this...
And my God...
How awesome...
Was this...
Was rather instable...
At the start...
With bad passing...
And...
Setu playing...
For the draw...
But all changed...
During the last minutes...
Of that first half...
What a bloody great performance...!!!!
- Forget about...
Anderson being the next Ronaldinho...
He's the new Deco...
Which pleases me even more...
- Vieirinha...
Was awesome...
In presence...
And prestation...
Playing that mature...
For a guy...
His age...
*thumbs up*
- "O Gato"...
Kept us alive...
In the few...
Dangerous moments...
In front of...
Our goal...
- Meireles or Ibson...?
Poor Jesualdo... (H)
- Rui Barros...
Should be in control...
Of this team...
Period...
I really like...
The choice...
Of JF as new coach...
But...
Barros has...
The talent...
And experience...
To take this team...
To new heights...
Negative points...:
- The passing...
At some points...
In the game... (especially in the first half...)
Was god awfull...
- The following players...
Disappointed me...:
* MC Lefty: He can do better, he will do better...
* Cigano: Clearly tired... He'll pop up again at the right time...
* Coração: Not as "noticable" as other times...
* Roshambo: Really, he sucks... When will you guys notice...? (almost ruined someones carreer, close owngoal, missed the ball a couple of times in one-on-ones...)
::shinji:: 20-08-2006, 12:55:PM Vieirinha's goal was incredible, as good as you'd see in any of the top leagues..
Setubal to be relegated, what a piece of sh!t team they are this year... Can't beleive what a difference even a mediocre player like Carlitos made to them :rolleyes:
Virgo 20-08-2006, 02:51:PM it wasnt really Carlitos. Setubal had a quality team last year with Norton de Matos. I remember that game vs Sampdoria where they owned one of the best teams in Italy, played with absolutely no fear.
Norton de Matos work was so good, Helio took more than the rest of the season to ruin them.
Yesterday they didn't try to play football at all. Like Massive said, tactica do enconanço. It's a shame.
Goo Goo boy 20-08-2006, 07:45:PM Well I think it was an awful match played on a miserable turf at a but-ugly stadium (Taveira should be in jail by now).
Anyway, Assunçao Meireles Ibson and Anderson were very very good. And the goals were nice. There wasn't a bad exhibition but Cech and Quaresma were not at their best and Alan runs like a chicken.
In the end:
-Good Scoreline
-Yet another Supercup in our trophy room
-Vieirinha and Anderson scored their first of many
-Adriano scored a bycicle kick
That's nice.(Y)
Goo Goo boy 25-08-2006, 08:40:PM Nice, Jesualdo left Bruno Alves off the list.
Game has already started.
Line-up:
Helton Pepe Cech Bosingwa Assunçao Meireles Lucho Quaresma Sektioui Adriano
Golololololo- Adriano's Header. Tarik assisted.
Golololololo- Quaresmaaaa
Half Time: 2-0
Meh- Sougou ... 2-1
MaSsiVe 25-08-2006, 09:25:PM good first half overall, wasn't liking our game much before the goal but then we started playing quite well.
and we managed to score 2 beautiful goals (Y)
Lucho doesn't seem fully fit yet...
Tarik is having a nice game so far.
MaSsiVe 25-08-2006, 10:28:PM FT 2-1
nice win, in the 2nd half Leiria scored a goal out of nothing and then the match became more dificult for us since we had to be much more careful in defense...in the end we pulled a solid performance in my book.
could have scored a few more goals but heh, no harm done...
my MoM were Bosingwa and Tarik (Y)
always nice to start with the 3 points, so I can't be nothing but happy with our team :)
INFESTA 26-08-2006, 09:48:AM We're actually playing well, especially if we consider this is just the begining of the season. I remember past seasons - even with Mourinho - and there's no way we were doing this well at this point. I guess that's natural, since the spine of the team remained unchanged...
Hope Jesualdo plays Ibson regularly. That guy is too good to be benched, and has an excellent work-rate. Him plus Lucho and Anderson could mean that by the end of the season - if they all stay injury-free - we could have one of the top midfields in Europe.
I'm a fan of Meireles, but he could be used as a quality sub every game, either to step up a gear or keep things more solid in the back.
Goo Goo boy 26-08-2006, 02:18:PM We're actually playing well, especially if we consider this is just the begining of the season. I remember past seasons - even with Mourinho - and there's no way we were doing this well at this point. I guess that's natural, since the spine of the team remained unchanged...
Hope Jesualdo plays Ibson regularly. That guy is too good to be benched, and has an excellent work-rate. Him plus Lucho and Anderson could mean that by the end of the season - if they all stay injury-free - we could have one of the top midfields in Europe.
I'm a fan of Meireles, but he could be used as a quality sub every game, either to step up a gear or keep things more solid in the back.
What about Assunção? benched? na... Jesualdo will play in a 4-3-3 so between Assunçao, Ibson and Meireles...only one of these will start.
MaSsiVe 26-08-2006, 03:23:PM it's gonna a major headache for Jesualdo, but I think he'll keep Assunção as our DM and play Lucho+Anderson ahead. Ibson is not a defensive player so I guess he'll play only when something happens to Lucho or Anderson...sad but true.
we can only be happy for having such quality in our midfield, the players envolved just have to live with the situation...I'd hate to see Ibson leave because of not getting enough playing time though :(
the same with Meireles....
what makes me wonder and truly worries me is who the f'ck is gonna join Pepe in defense when we play the 4-3-3, we have Bosi and Cech for the back wings but for the middle our options are not good enough...R. Costa is just ok, and Alves is a walking disaster....we're gonna miss P. Emanuel and J. Paulo A LOT.
I really hope Jesualdo decides to get another CB....
Goo Goo boy 26-08-2006, 04:59:PM ..and we don't have a backup for Bosingwa...
MaSsiVe 26-08-2006, 05:19:PM also true (:/)
Tiago_10 26-08-2006, 05:43:PM What about Sonkaya ? :(
If Bosinwga isn't available R. Costa can play as a side back, if he's not playing as a CB in a 4 men defense line, obviously. In that case, you'd have to play Bruno Alves in the middle :D
Man, Benfica gotta instruct Beto to severely injure Bosingwa :crazyboy:
MaSsiVe 26-08-2006, 06:01:PM ffs, anything but Alves playing...not even Sonkaya was such a menace to his own team.
so we have to get at least another player for the defense that's for sure...I consider a CB prioritary since like Tiago said Costa can play RB, and Alves can't do well at any position at all...even his presence on the bench freaks me out.
Goo Goo boy 26-08-2006, 06:08:PM The amusing thing is...Co only needed a freakin Giant dutch forward to get the squad he wanted...I'm so glad he went home. Too bad Diego is already gone, cause he could play as a nr 10 and Anderson as a second striker but playmaking too. And Quaresma would be our one and only winger, travelling between left and right with Vieirinha as a sub.
My tactic would be:
------------------Helton-----------------
Bosingwa------Pepe---Assunção-----Cech
------------Meireles----Ibson------------
-------------------Lucho----------------
Quaresma----->------->------->------->
------------------------Anderson--------
------------------Lisandro---------------
But that's me..
MaSsiVe 26-08-2006, 06:36:PM if we were to play with the 3 defenders, Co's squad would be fine.
the thing is that before we only needed to start 1 CB, now we need 2.
and if Emanuel and J. Paulo hadn't been injured, we wouldn't be discussing about the lack of defenders issue, maybe remotely about missing a RB....
I wouldn't play Assunção as a pure CB, would be a waste...with Co he used to fill in the spot when we were defending, but never permanently throughout a match...we need him in the midfield, he's very important at recovering balls, making a quick transition between defense and attack with his simple/quick thinking and passing.
and if Diego was here, he'd simply be another problem for the coach, Jesualdo has enough trouble at selecting a starting midfield as it is now....and I wouldn't play Diego over any of the midfielders in the squad.
MaSsiVe 28-08-2006, 02:47:AM we're being linked to Zoro, a 22 year old Ivory Coast international right-back currently playing at Messina.
O FC Porto está interessado em Zoro, lateral direito do Messina, e já fez chegar eco desse interesse ao clube italiano. Na avaliação feita ao plantel, Jesualdo Ferreira apontou uma lacuna óbvia do lado direito da defesa, onde só Bosingwa aparece como solução de raiz, e fez do reforço dessa posição uma prioridade. Daí à prospecção de mercado foi um instante, ressaltando, nessa busca, o nome de Zoro. Internacional pela Costa do Marfim, o lateral, que completa 23 anos em Dezembro, enquadra-se no perfil definido pelos portistas: é jovem e tem experiência no futebol europeu, já que, apesar da idade, iniciava a sétima temporada consecutiva no calcio, primeiro no Salernitana e depois no Messina. Ontem, foi utilizado no empate caseiro com a Lázio, num jogo a contar para a Taça de Itália e, na bancada, estiveram emissários do FC Porto a segui-lo com atenção.
A menos de uma semana para o fecho das inscrições, os portistas terão de agir com rapidez para concretizar um interesse que o presidente do Messina, Pietro França, confirmou a O JOGO. "Confirmo que me chegaram informações de que o FC Porto quer negociar Zoro e que hoje estiveram aqui a observá-lo, mas ainda não houve nenhum acordo definitivo", disse, manifestando-se, ainda assim, disponível para ouvir os argumentos dos dragões. "Está marcada uma reunião para avaliar essa possibilidade", acrescentou, escusando-se a dar detalhes sobre como e através de quem terá sido feita essa primeira abordagem. Outro pormenor que se escusou a revelar foi o preço pedido. "Desculpe-me, mas não vou entrar nesses detalhes", justificou-se.
Zoro foi sempre um dos jogadores mais utilizados pelo treinador do Messina e, em Novembro de 2005, esteve envolvido num episódio que escandalizou o futebol italiano: cansado dos insultos racistas que ouviu da parte dos adeptos do Inter de Milão, num jogo do campeonato, o lateral pegou na bola e saiu disparado do campo, recusando-se a continuar. Zoro só voltou atrás nessa decisão depois de os jogadores de ambas as equipas, entre eles o brasileiro Adriano, o terem convencido, mas o caso gerou discussões acesas no futebol transalpino e motivou um atraso de cinco minutos nos jogos da semana seguinte, numa medida de protesto contra atitudes racistas no futebol.
BI
Marc André Zoro Kpolo
27-12-83
Costa do Marfim
Internacionalizações: 16
Jogos no calcio: 128
Golos: 3
don't know much about him tbh, but I do remember clearly about the episode quoted above in bold...
if this comes to actually happen, let's hope he's a good enough player to at least discuss the spot with Bosingwa.
MaSsiVe 31-08-2006, 03:09:AM seems like we signed uruguayan international Jorge Fucile from Liverpool de Montevideo on loan, with buying option at the end of the season. he's a 21 year-old right-back.
some dude from their board confirmed the deal, article here: http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=719927&div_id=1304
meanwhile Peixoto has been loaned to Espanyol, hopefully he'll have a good season in Spain and comes back to play for us...
Paulo Da Silva 31-08-2006, 03:55:AM Peixoto wont play with us again. This year would be his final year of his contract
MaSsiVe 31-08-2006, 04:23:PM then why the f'ck didn't we just sell him?
:nape:
Goo Goo boy 31-08-2006, 04:31:PM Maybe no one would give a cent for the lad.
Man, is it just me or this 2 week stops in the league are annoying as hell...With those pimps of Sporttv showing 4 league games and 2 CL portuguese games a week I get to see almost no football at all. I wonder when will I see Jesualdo's Porto playing for the first time.....If someone handed me a bomb and told me "drop it wherever you want" I would burst Sporttv into dust!
They are a mix of horrible journalism and never-ending money hores. Argh
PS.: When, oh when will someone invent an option where u turn off the commentatours lame ignorant comments but still hear the stadium atmosphere? I'm tired of watching games with no sound at all.
If Sporttv had that option i'd sign it.
MaSsiVe 31-08-2006, 05:14:PM yeah it's annoying as f'ck, especially because one is waiting for the League start during the whole Summer, and when it does, it stops again.... :f***:
about SportTv I share your thoughts, because they really do monopolize the sports broadcasting and I believe that at least the matches featuring Portuguese teams should all be available for everyone to watch....
I still pay for it though, even if it's a damn robbery....I love football and enjoy watching basically any match that's on, so f'ck it :(
on another note, lets hope that Fucile dude is not a waste of time and money.
Goo Goo boy 31-08-2006, 05:35:PM Man, how much do you pay for sporttv plus classic TV Cabo? In their page u can only have cable Sporttv with a very limited number of other cable channels.
I love football and enjoy watching basically any match that's on, so f'ck it
Yeah, I am exactly the same and I'm affraid sooner or later I'll sign it up, even if I hate 'em with all my guts. My social life might suffer at first, but hey, life's short, we must cease what we really like.
Fucile must be nice, he earned a spot in the NT at a young age and playing in a medium club. And he's just a backup. The guy must be overwhelmed with the abrupt changes in his life though=) Good changes are good chances anyway(Y)
MaSsiVe 31-08-2006, 05:56:PM I'm not quite sure, but I believe SportTv is 20 €, and I pay 30-35 € total :(
plus 35 € for the net...it hurts.
yeah Fucile is young and a good prospect judging from what I read...hopefull he'll make Bosingwa think twice about keeping his high-low performances :read:
INFESTA 03-09-2006, 03:37:PM The 2 weeks stop is actually good for us, since we got a new coach and all. (Y)
But yeah, it's stupid to finally get the championship rolling with all the good-old controversy surrounding it and then there's no action for a couple weeks...
I refuse to pay Sportv a dime. I crash my friend's homes when there's a big game on or I go to the bar. It's actually more fun to watch football in a bar than at home.
NBA has broadcasted games last season without the announcing team. I think it was very successful, and keep in mind they actually have knowledgeable commentators over there.
NightCrawler 07-09-2006, 01:41:AM in O Jogo
http://www.ojogo.pt/22-198/artigo577009.htm
4-3-3 ensaiado
Jesualdo testa Bruno Alves no eixo da defesa
Não passou despercebida a ninguém a atenção particular dispensada ontem a Bruno Alves, com quem conversou durante alguns minutos. E fez mais: além da conversa, o treinador foi-lhe passando dicas de movimentação defensiva, corrigindo a abordagem do defesa aos lances.
:funny:
Be afraid... Be very afraid..
INFESTA 08-09-2006, 12:23:AM Não passou despercebida a ninguém a atenção particular dispensada ontem a Bruno Alves, com quem conversou durante alguns minutos. E fez mais: além da conversa, o treinador foi-lhe passando dicas de movimentação defensiva, corrigindo a abordagem do defesa aos lances.
Jesualdo told him which side they were attacking. :lui:
MaSsiVe 08-09-2006, 01:52:AM :funny:
we're laughing but it's gonna be either him or Costa starting, f'cking doomness :(
MaSsiVe 10-09-2006, 09:37:PM ok a few thoughts on tonight's win...
- what a f'cking screamer by Meireles (H)
- MoM Anderson (I'm speechless) and Bosingwa.
- Alves actually had a solid game :wootman:
- Adriano needs to finish the sh'tload of chances he gets per match.
- Amadora sucks ass, although we did a great job pushing them to the ropes...
...bring on CSKA :mrpimp:
K3nzo 11-09-2006, 03:13:AM The expected result! A not so good exhibition, too slow, but enough to beat the weak opponent!
Meireles!! What a shot!!
Did you noticed the brazilians showing off? Helton tried hard to get some attention, the ball didnt go there that much! And Pepe dribling opponents? hahaha They went nuts tonight!!
INFESTA 11-09-2006, 01:48:PM Meireles! :bob:
Great game, great goal! He's undoubtedly NT material, and with Costinha not getting any younger, Manuel Fernandes playing for a small club, I see him getting his chance soon, along with Moutinho.
Anderson also had a good game - again! (Y)
One thing that bothered me was our defensive stance: no pressure (apart from Adriano here and there), allowing the (weak) opposition to pass the ball among themselves... (:/) Hope that's just poor conditioning speaking louder, and not Jesualdo's defensive playbook.
SCP19O6 11-09-2006, 04:22:PM ... along with Moutinho.
Good to see you recognized the obvious. :)
Virgo 11-09-2006, 04:48:PM Moutinho as a "trinco"?
Are we talking about football or a comedy contest?
INFESTA 11-09-2006, 05:28:PM Moutinho as a "trinco"?
Are we talking about football or a comedy contest?
...but not necessarily in the same position as Meireles. (C)
K3nzo 11-09-2006, 05:43:PM They are both backup miedfielders i think, none his a true "trinco", not even Meireles, he can play on that position but he's much more than that!
MaSsiVe 12-09-2006, 04:03:AM Ibson f'cking broke his foot :kader:
K3nzo 12-09-2006, 09:45:AM Dont worry is a small crack on the winky!
I'm serious, internal medical source belive me, not joking! Less than the month they announce on papers!
MaSsiVe 12-09-2006, 05:05:PM sure hope you are right then Doc (H)
K3nzo 12-09-2006, 05:28:PM About Mereiles i'll tell u later, my source is powerful!!! LOLOL
MaSsiVe 12-09-2006, 05:39:PM I didn't know there was something wrong with Meireles :(
K3nzo 18-09-2006, 03:29:AM Ten years has passed since this unforgetable day!!
18 Septembet 1996, Supercup 2nd hand final at Estadio da Luz...
SLBENFICA 0-5 FCPORTO
Goals by Artur, Edmilson (2), Wetl and Drulovic
View YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PazzWBiIBA)
Download Here (http://www.magiaontour.com/videos/humilhacao_05.zip)
MaSsiVe 18-09-2006, 03:51:AM indeed a memorable night...even f'cking Wetl managed to score (H)
Goo Goo boy 18-09-2006, 04:52:PM Woohoo, best game ever, I remember Wetl's goal as it was yesterday!
K3nzo, Man, you're my hero
INFESTA 20-09-2006, 11:05:PM ****, I feel old now, man. Can't believe 10 years have passed by so fast...
About that memorable performance, I got 2 friends that in the following day missed college to become 'sócios'. (H)
K3nzo 20-09-2006, 11:18:PM Respect! :rockman:
Next game is friday at 19h15! is it too soon?
Tiago_10 21-09-2006, 06:56:PM Hélton was called up to the brazilian NT.
Congrats to him! I think it's well deserved, he's definitely one of the best keepers in the league.
INFESTA 21-09-2006, 08:17:PM Great news! (Y)
Helton is a great gk and I actually see him taking over the brazilian goal in 1 or 2 years.
RuiCosta_10 21-09-2006, 09:30:PM Yeah, he's the best keeper of our league imo
K3nzo 21-09-2006, 10:25:PM Great to him!
I just hope he gets a chance to play! I dont want him to go, travel, get tired, dont play, and dont get called soon!
MaSsiVe 21-09-2006, 11:40:PM great stuff for Helton, and so deserved too :)
yagami 22-09-2006, 08:36:AM bem, hoje li o jogo , e decidi :
já nao sou portista , sou benfiquista !!!
afinal : "Com o projecto que temos, vamos chegar a 2011 ou 2012 e seremos um grande colosso europeu, para não dizer mundial." , por LFV !!!
penso que é melhor todos os portistas e sportinguistas tornarem-se benfiquistas , e ouvirem o que o grande LFV tem para dizer ! pois claro , ele nunca iria mentir ( ele é uma pessoa de bem e tal , e com ele ninguem brinca )
K3nzo 22-09-2006, 07:32:PM Dont wanna make a fuss with u, but english please! This is a Portuguese thread on a english forum! make an effort!
Sometimes we do write Portuguese, but that's when we cant say it properly in english!
BTW i got scared with that statment.. but didnt he said the same a couple of years ago?
NightCrawler 22-09-2006, 07:46:PM Postiga scored?? How the hell did he manage do to that? The ball hit him or something? Really, I'm not watching the game can you clarify that for me please :p
K3nzo 22-09-2006, 08:17:PM Didnt see it either! Radio said it was an awsome goal!!
FT FC Porto [3 - 0] Beira Mar
53' [1 - 0] H. Postiga
71' [2 - 0] Lisandro
90' [3 - 0] Tarik
bmpv666 22-09-2006, 08:33:PM yeah! it was a great goal, i only wonder how could Postiga do that? :|
MaSsiVe 22-09-2006, 08:38:PM great goal by Postiga, people usually call that a "golo à ponta-de-lança" (H)
did I already mention that Anderson is THE SHIT?
he came in at HT and immediately changed our game with his speed, strength and amazing skill with the ball (Y)
lately I've been guessing the score on Porto's matches right, lets hope my Arsenal 1-2 Porto prediction is also accurate (H)
yagami 22-09-2006, 09:50:PM Dont wanna make a fuss with u, but english please! This is a Portuguese thread on a english forum! make an effort!
Sometimes we do write Portuguese, but that's when we cant say it properly in english!
BTW i got scared with that statment.. but didnt he said the same a couple of years ago?
dammit !!! my mistake , how could i make this mistake ?!?? sometimes i dunno where my head is !
i am sorry , i am going to translate my original post into english :
"bem, hoje li o jogo , e decidi :
já nao sou portista , sou benfiquista !!!
afinal : "Com o projecto que temos, vamos chegar a 2011 ou 2012 e seremos um grande colosso europeu, para não dizer mundial." , por LFV !!!
penso que é melhor todos os portistas e sportinguistas tornarem-se benfiquistas , e ouvirem o que o grande LFV tem para dizer ! pois claro , ele nunca iria mentir ( ele é uma pessoa de bem e tal , e com ele ninguem brinca )"
translates into :
"well, today i read the newspaper ojogo and decided :
i am not a fc porto fan anymore , i am a sl benfica fan now!!!!
afterall : "With the project we have, by 2011 or 2012 we will be a big european giant, so that i dont say world" , by LFV !!!
i think its better that all fc porto and sportings fans become sl benfica fans, and here what the great LFV has to say! yeah sure , he would never lie ( he is a person of good and all that, and noone messes with him )"
by the way , great that tarik scored :)
Vinnie Jones 22-09-2006, 10:37:PM lately I've been guessing the score on Porto's matches right, lets hope my Arsenal 1-2 Porto prediction is also accurate (H)
I just hope we see the english (and the gloryhunters) whine in the end of the match, it´s a sign that our teams have beat them again :ewan:
MaSsiVe 22-09-2006, 10:51:PM werd (H)(Y)
K3nzo 23-09-2006, 02:44:AM dammit !!! my mistake , how could i make this mistake ?!?? sometimes i dunno where my head is !
i am sorry , i am going to translate my original post into english :
"bem, hoje li o jogo , e decidi :
já nao sou portista , sou benfiquista !!!
afinal : "Com o projecto que temos, vamos chegar a 2011 ou 2012 e seremos um grande colosso europeu, para não dizer mundial." , por LFV !!!
penso que é melhor todos os portistas e sportinguistas tornarem-se benfiquistas , e ouvirem o que o grande LFV tem para dizer ! pois claro , ele nunca iria mentir ( ele é uma pessoa de bem e tal , e com ele ninguem brinca )"
translates into :
"well, today i read the newspaper ojogo and decided :
i am not a fc porto fan anymore , i am a sl benfica fan now!!!!
afterall : "With the project we have, by 2011 or 2012 we will be a big european giant, so that i dont say world" , by LFV !!!
i think its better that all fc porto and sportings fans become sl benfica fans, and here what the great LFV has to say! yeah sure , he would never lie ( he is a person of good and all that, and noone messes with him )"
by the way , great that tarik scored :)
Tas a ver.. não doeu, pois nao? (H)
Now in english..
You see.. it didnt hurt, did it? (H)
K3nzo 23-09-2006, 02:47:AM o's matches right, lets hope my Arsenal 1-2 Porto prediction is also accurate (H)
Yes Massive you r right!! U r on a glorious strike! Keepn on!! :rockman:
I'll even bet 0,50€ on that result!! (true! btw sory but the budget is short! =D )
INFESTA 23-09-2006, 09:34:AM Postiga's goal was awesome! Nobody knew he could still do that. :|
But I got to say he did it because Beira-Mar's CB (think his name's Alcaraz) is as effective as my grandmother. The goal was totally his fault and it pains me to see such 'troncos' in our league. Really, I could have never pulled that off with my mates without getting my legs chopped.
K3nzo 24-09-2006, 04:20:AM I cant figure how the hell there was a runour that he could have joined FCP last year!! He gotta be better than that!! Beira Mar Left Back Tininho was also very mentioned! Inacio said that the big 3 didnt have a better LB than his!
K3nzo 25-09-2006, 09:16:PM Yes Massive you r right!! U r on a glorious strike! Keepn on!! :rockman:
I'll even bet 0,50€ on that result!! (true! btw sory but the budget is short! =D )
Like i said!! I just hope u r right Massive!!
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2775/betwe3.jpg
MaSsiVe 25-09-2006, 09:20:PM :rockman:
0.50 €, you're gonna go bankrupt in case I'm wrong :((H)
K3nzo 26-09-2006, 02:58:AM I said a had a short budget....
... i seem PDC shopping for a striker this year!
MaSsiVe 26-09-2006, 03:14:AM haha (H)
he had faith in Postiga all this time, it's called wisdom...:(
man I'm so f'cking anxious...just wan't the damn match to start, the hours will go by really slowly tomorrow at work :nape:
K3nzo 28-09-2006, 02:29:PM Today the greatest club in the all freakin world celebrates 113th anniversary!!
http://www.fcporto.pt/Imagens/10607.gifhttp://www.fcporto.pt/Imagens/10606.gifhttp://www.fcporto.pt/Imagens/10608.gif
113 years of glories!!!!
http://quaresma-10.skyblog.com/pics/40179468_small.jpg
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
:lui:
Tiago_10 28-09-2006, 02:51:PM Wow congrats.. 1893..
I'm gessing that's about the time Pdc joined (H)
MaSsiVe 29-09-2006, 08:17:PM damn, 113 years... (slightly late) Parabéns ao meu Porto (H)
K3nzo 02-10-2006, 04:10:PM Today we face Braga, they didnt play that good on thursday but they did go through on UEFA so they have high moral for tonight! It will be a good match, FCPorto has skills to beat them!
Braga 0 - 2 FCporto
MaSsiVe 02-10-2006, 08:01:PM yup, I'm also predicting a 0-2.
Lisandro to score twice (H)
SCP19O6 02-10-2006, 08:36:PM Bruno Alves is priceless... Instead of marking Marcel, he was marking Maciel, along with Pepe, lefting Marcel alone to score easily.
Virgo 02-10-2006, 08:58:PM god I hate Porto... Braga was playing so much better :(
MaSsiVe 02-10-2006, 10:06:PM that Lucho miss in the first minutes was shocking, even Bruno Alves would have scored that :|
it would have certainlygiven the match a different path..
I'm really ashamed of the team tonight, players acting like they didn't care at all
Braga was not having a great game IMHO, they just took advantage of our total lack of will.
shocking performance, gutting stuff
K3nzo 02-10-2006, 11:28:PM I didnt see 1st half but it seems it was worst tan 2nd! Porto players were sleeping and only get into the spirit after Braga second goal, it was too late!
I just hope they learn a lesson with this 2 consecutive losses! Every game is to win! FCPorto has to enter a match to score goals, not to watch other team play! One thing is to control a game, find opponente weaknesses, another is just wait and sit and watch other team run, play, and score!!
Common boys! We enterd a tough serie og games the worst way, i just hope we can end it well!
Arsenal-FCPorto 2-0
Braga-FCPorto 2-1
FCPorto-Maritimo 15-10-2006
FC Porto-Hamburgo 17-10-2006
Sporting-FCPorto 22-10-2006
FCPorto-SLBenfica 29-10-2006
Hamburgo-FC Porto 01-11-2006
V. Setúbal-FCPorto 05-11-2006
FC Porto-Académica 19-11-2006
CSKA Moscovo-FC Porto 21-11-2006
Belenenses-FC Porto 26-11-2006
FC Porto-Boavista 03-12-2006
FC Porto-Arsenal 06-12-2006
What an exciting 2 months!! PORTTTOOO!!!!!
Parasol 03-10-2006, 12:20:AM Common boys! We enterd a tough serie og games the worst way, i just hope we can end it well!
Arsenal-FCPorto 2-0
Braga-FCPorto 2-1
FCPorto-Maritimo 15-10-2006
FC Porto-Hamburgo 17-10-2006
Sporting-FCPorto 22-10-2006
FCPorto-SLBenfica 29-10-2006
Hamburgo-FC Porto 01-11-2006
V. Setúbal-FCPorto 05-11-2006
FC Porto-Académica 19-11-2006
CSKA Moscovo-FC Porto 21-11-2006
Belenenses-FC Porto 26-11-2006
FC Porto-Boavista 03-12-2006
FC Porto-Arsenal 06-12-2006
What an exciting 2 months!! PORTTTOOO!!!!!
WOW that's what i call some good games are coming!! :corn:
Porto better win next home game against Maritimo or else i don't think you guys can overcome the rest of the teams... next "easy" game for porto is only on 19/11! Will Jesualdo get to the christmas holidays?
Good luck guys!
Virgo 03-10-2006, 10:46:AM Setubal - Porto will be a walk in the park... Setubal is awful this year, Helio ruined the team totally.
RuiCosta_10 03-10-2006, 11:34:AM Was Marcel any good against you guys? (apart from the goal)
Virgo 03-10-2006, 01:15:PM i watched the whole game, he was ok but he's way way too slow for a team like Braga that plays with a very fast attack.
Joao Tomás was a much better player and much more suited to Braga's style.
Trailblazer 03-10-2006, 01:50:PM I agree about Marcel - a decent player but not really suited to the way braga are playing at the moment.
Parasol 03-10-2006, 04:31:PM Setubal - Porto will be a walk in the park... Setubal is awful this year, Helio ruined the team totally.
but remember Porto usually has lots of difficulties when playing south of Leiria. We'll be here to see.
RuiCosta_10 03-10-2006, 06:18:PM João Tomás was slower...
bmpv666 03-10-2006, 06:30:PM Bruno Alves is priceless... Instead of marking Marcel, he was marking Maciel, along with Pepe, lefting Marcel alone to score easily.
actually it was Ezequias there and not Pepe, but i agree, one of them should be marking Marcel. but it just shows the quality (lack of..) of those two players...
and Bruno Alves made another blunder in the second goal. he just stood there in his position watching Luis Filipe runing torwards him, and shooting. Bruno Alves wasn't marking anyone, while Ezequias, Pepe and Raul Meireles had someone to mark so they couldn't leave their positions...
and that miss by Lucho, i compare that to the "frangos" the keepers concede once in a while, it's just not acceptable at this level :kader:
MaSsiVe 03-10-2006, 07:26:PM I agree about Marcel - a decent player but not really suited to the way braga are playing at the moment.
wow, a Millwall fan knowing who the f'ck Marcel is? interesting :brow:
Tiago_10 03-10-2006, 08:56:PM wow, a Millwall fan knowing who the f'ck Marcel is? interesting :brow:
hehe my thoughts exactly when I read that.
MaSsiVe 18-10-2006, 04:35:PM dudes, Anderson won't play against Sporting because of last night's injury :(
now I just hope Jesualdo doesn't chose Jorginho to be his replacement, I know the man scored our title winner last season precisely in Alvalade and all, but he still sucks.
Moreira_Benfica 18-10-2006, 09:50:PM damn tough luck
K3nzo 19-10-2006, 01:37:AM We dont have a decent replacement, after u see what Anderson can do no one seems good to the place!
He may put Jorginho on that place like u say, but i think he will make a slight change! This is a game against Sporting, the runner up, they play at home and r higly motivated despite CL loss to Bayern, maybe we can take profit if they present a bit more tired. But as a was saying Jesulado may present a different team. We may put Paulo Assunçao Back to his place, and move Meireles and Jesulaod a bit further, so they assume the attack a bit more! Another question is if he'll forgive Bosingwa or keeps Fucile as RB, the rest stays the same. Quaresma made a better game agaisnt Hamburg, both Postiga and Lisandro are motivated, the major problem is a CB to help Pepe since Bruno Alves is pitfull! This isnt exactly a 4-3-3, it's also kinda of a 4-4-2 since it settles on the forwards movements, like Quaresma changing both sides and Lisandro appearing in midle also.
Something like
---------------Postiga----------------
-Lisandro-------------------Quaresma-
--------------------------------------
-----Meireles-----------Lucho---------
-------------P.Assunção--------------
--------------------------------------
Cech------B.Alves-----Pepe------Fucile
--------------------------------------
----------------Helton----------------
MaSsiVe 19-10-2006, 03:58:AM I mentioned Jorginho because he was Jesualdo's choice to replace Anderson in yesterday's match, but obviously don't want him to play either.
the formation you posted is completely spot on, Paulo Assunção will be very important working hard as always in the midfield.
Meireles playing a bit more up front will also give his long shots a few more chances to happen too (Y)
I still think Quaresma holds the ball too damn long, and keeps it to himself more than he should.
he needs to simplify his game in order to make less mistakes...I mean he has his great moments but still he is way too inconstant, not that I'm saying he shouldn't start though, I mean he can turn a match around in a blink of an eye.
Bruno Alves has been pretty solid lately, but I still hope João Paulo takes his place once he's fully fit.
btw Bosingwa won't join the team until next Monday for what I've read, so Fucile is likely to start.
and he should, given what he showed against Hamburg. quality player he seems to be (Y)
Jannes 01-11-2006, 01:59:AM Diego was a hyped player that'll never be more than a Roger. I'm sure he'll do fine in Brazil, once he gets shipped back at the end of next season.
His problem is: he's slow; pretty decent technically but not anywhere near a level that allows him to dribble past other midfielders or defenders (unlike Deco); he doesn't control the flow of the game. Now these are all things that you can't be taught. You either have it or you don't, and Diego hasn't. The recipe for disaster.
On top of that, he's poor tactically and has a father with a big mouth. Finally, he spent the last 2 years - the crucial years for the development of a young player - benched, and rightly so, btw.
I hope we get good money for this kid.
infesta, do you still think diego is overhyped?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U3-PaDJRcP0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qQIY7lHZIKM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BYdQ2_QwQmQ (not a goal, but very nice!)
there are a lot of more great actions from diego...
5 goals and 8 assists so far...
MaSsiVe 01-11-2006, 02:13:AM I personally always liked him.
maybe a bit slow on the aspect of taking too much time too decide what to do with the ball sometimes, but on a good day he can be a real menace for opposition.
too bad Co didn't find a place for him in the team, I'm sure Jesualdo would love to still have Diego available, especially now that Anderson got injured and we only have Jorginho as a pure nº 10 :nape:
INFESTA 01-11-2006, 09:25:PM Diego was a hyped player that'll never be more than a Roger. I'm sure he'll do fine in Brazil, once he gets shipped back at the end of next season.
His problem is: he's slow; pretty decent technically but not anywhere near a level that allows him to dribble past other midfielders or defenders (unlike Deco); he doesn't control the flow of the game. Now these are all things that you can't be taught. You either have it or you don't, and Diego hasn't. The recipe for disaster.
On top of that, he's poor tactically and has a father with a big mouth. Finally, he spent the last 2 years - the crucial years for the development of a young player - benched, and rightly so, btw.
I hope we get good money for this kid.
infesta, do you still think diego is overhyped?
I do. He's having an impressive start of the season - you can't deny that.
But I've seen him play live here many times, and he also pleased the crowd in the beginning. But that worn out as the season went along and the opponents figured him out.
If I were you, I would have waited for the end of the season to make that post. Come to think of it, that's exactly what I'm going to do. Be sure to check here in the end of the season and we'll discuss Diego's performances in the Bundesliga. ;)
Hendrik 01-11-2006, 10:03:PM Diego is in a perfect environment right now. He can play the #10 in an attacking minded team and doesn't need to worry about defending one bit as physically strong players like Frings and Borowski are playing next to him.
He dominated the midfield against Barcelona and Bayern. I really couldn't recognize him being slow or not being able to control the flow of the game.
I'd break the bank to have him on my team.
INFESTA 04-11-2006, 08:44:AM Doesn't need to worry about defending one bit? That sure sounds like modern day football, uh? (Unless, of course, you play for R. Madrid.)
If that's true, I wonder how it will hurt WB this season. Other teams will soon enough realize it and take advantage. Like I said, the Port. Liga teams took half a season to figure out how to cripple Diego, and he's been useless ever since.
VfB-Ole 10-11-2006, 08:37:PM Quaresma,Lucho and Anderson are the best !!! :rockman:
MaSsiVe 10-11-2006, 08:56:PM wise words dude (H)
VfB-Ole 10-11-2006, 09:03:PM I love Porto...they play the best football in Portugal.
MaSsiVe 10-11-2006, 09:43:PM I tend to agree (H)
SCP19O6 07-01-2007, 05:13:PM :rofl:
My solidarity in this difficult moment!
:rofl:
K3nzo 08-01-2007, 07:53:PM :rofl:
My solidarity in this difficult moment!
:rofl:
You rock!! :bob:
I could ask what other competions is Sporting still involved but i wont! Did anyone tried to piss you when u got knocked out?
This is "Taça" and anything can happen, i went to the stadium and it was impossible to me to feel sad at the end, i wasnt happy with it, but it didnt surprised me at all! We still have serious business to worry!
SCP19O6 08-01-2007, 09:15:PM I could ask what other competions is Sporting still involved but i wont! Did anyone tried to piss you when u got knocked out?
Chill out!
BTW, we were never knocked out by a 3rd division team and this is the 2nd time it happens to you in few years.
Virgo 08-01-2007, 10:49:PM Chill out!
BTW, we were never knocked out by a 3rd division team and this is the 2nd time it happens to you in few years.
well at least they were knocked off a cup by a team whose name they can f*cking spell.
On the other hand Sporting and their endless list of Gençlerbiligisdsdffd (H)
SCP19O6 08-01-2007, 11:21:PM well at least they were knocked off a cup by a team whose name they can f*cking spell.
On the other hand Sporting and their endless list of Gençlerbiligisdsdffd (H)
GONDOMAR
RuiCosta_10 09-01-2007, 08:14:AM ahhhhh, easy to spell
MaSsiVe 17-01-2007, 11:06:PM nice to know you haven't lost your touch at acting like a retard SCP1786391836
cheers :)
Hendrik 18-01-2007, 01:00:AM Hugo Almeida is about to sign a long-term contract with Bremen, the fee is a bit lower than the rumored €4M clause.
MaSsiVe 18-01-2007, 01:10:AM yep, read about that :(
we were really unlucky with this one, if only Co left a few weeks sooner I'm
100% sure Hugo would still be playing for us. and so would Diego I guess...
btw less than €4M is a ******* bargain :nape:
Socrates 28-02-2007, 03:38:AM Don't know if you guys have read anything inyour media but according to Cadena Ser we are interested in Pepe. How good is he? Also does he have an EU passport?
RuiCosta_10 28-02-2007, 01:04:PM Great center back, never thought he could become this good, since he had a problem adapting to Porto, but now he's the best center back of Portuguese Liga with Luisão.
Strong, fast, strong marking, great header (also attacking), and decent technique (good for a CB). Would definitely be a good buy, but you'd probably have to pay a lot for him.
and yes, i believe he has EU passport
Socrates 28-02-2007, 01:35:PM Great center back, never thought he could become this good, since he had a problem adapting to Porto, but now he's the best center back of Portuguese Liga with Luisão.
Strong, fast, strong marking, great header (also attacking), and decent technique (good for a CB). Would definitely be a good buy, but you'd probably have to pay a lot for him.
and yes, i believe he has EU passport
Thanks for the info(Y), sounds like a player that we could really use.
MaSsiVe 28-02-2007, 11:21:PM thanks Rui for the flawless description, I'd even tell you're a Porto fan judging by those words alone (H) :p
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