Colombia wants to organize World Cup in 2014 - Colombian president Alvaro Uribe announced.

I'm not sure if Colombia is able to take on his arms so difficult thing as is organize FIFA World CUp.

If I ain't mistaken Colombia was due to hold '86 WC, but failed at the eleventh hour due to economical havoc?

Talks are that 2014 will be on South America. Brazil are the main contenders, however with such an organized FA / government we'll have trouble on getting everything ready 'till there; not to menton we do not have a truly modern stadium with decent capacity, and no concrete plans of extensive rejuvenation of major venues were seen up to now.

So we have competition now...at least pretty much evreyone else in SA is likely to have the same kind of trouble.

I'd love a well-organized WC here...if that's even possible :(

Mexico 2014? (H)

Mexico 2014? (H)

South America, not Central.

South America, not Central.


Mexico is part of North America not Central.

lets see if south africa make it.....England 2014?

Brazil 2014 :chew:

Mexico is part of North America not Central.

That varies. UN geoscheme says Central. Its sure as hell not South.

lets see if south africa make it.....England 2014?

Nice username.

What does South Africa have to do 2014? Is England in South America now, too?

If 2014 is to be held in Brazil, we'd need at least 5 completely new stadia, plus major investments in making the current stadia good enough. Not to mention security, public transport....

Five new stadiums? One or two will be enough and then just renovate the old ones.

South America, not Central.

Mexico is in North America. And I was going by the previous post, where he said Colombia was supposed to hold '86 WC and it was given to Mexico. So I thought if Colombia couldn't, then Mexico could get to host. ;)

Nice username.

What does South Africa have to do 2014?too?


sorry, i meant 2010

it is said that blatter wants for 2014 a new "japan-korea" world cup
this could be
argentina-chile
argentina-uruguay
argentina-brazil
brazil-uruguay
colombia-venezuela

thou, the last one is... well... you know...

I hate co-hosted tournaments.

I hate co-hosted tournaments.

Why??? South Korea/Japan was an awsome tournament IMO...

belgium holland wasn't too bad

it is said that blatter wants for 2014 a new "japan-korea" world cup
this could be
argentina-chile
argentina-uruguay
argentina-brazil
brazil-uruguay
colombia-venezuela

thou, the last one is... well... you know...


last one is what?

No I don't mean the tournaments themselves (like the quality of play) it's just I like it better when one nation hosts it instead of two.

I do hope Colombia gets it and just like in 86, hopefully... Mexico will get it again. (H)

Let Australia host it, atleast you know you will get a World Cup on time.

Let Australia host it, atleast you know you will get a World Cup on time.

Yeah 4 sure, we dont even need to build new stadiums or refurbish, as we've got some of the best stadiums u'll find and they have capacities of average 70,000 not like the german's who had maximum 72,000. the MCG and Telstra stadium can hold close to 100,000 and would be awsum venues for the final.
U get bigger crowds and good organisation, we've already hosted the Sydney 2000 olympics of course and we hosted the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne this year.

AUSTRALIA FOR 2010, 2014 & as a last resort 2018!!!

I heard somewhere that we wanted to organise WC 2018 like EURO 2000 with the Belgians. Would be marvelous to have a WC so close. (Y)

I hate co-hosted tournaments.

But if Romania want to organize a World Cup it must do it with Hungary or Bulgaria. :boohoo:

Let Australia host it, atleast you know you will get a World Cup on time.

South America, Rob. :jambo:

Meh, Australia will just switch to CSF.

IMO argentina-brazil would be great!

Malaysia 2014 :ewan:

Places I want to see the WC being held at:
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. Australia
4. Norway+Sweden

COME TO THE USA .. I want to see the games in person :ewan:

or at least Canada !

last one is what?

I am also waiting for the answer, because i know that Colombia is capable of organizing the cup.

Ummm no.

I doubt it's FIFA's policy to hold it's prized event in a nation currently embroiled in civil war. Additionaly, Bogota is one of the most violent cities in the world.

Colombia's request to host the WC is a complete joke. Why not Iraq 2018?

They should have it in Brazil, that'd be fantastic. Beaches, great parties, sexy women, great football. And seeing a final in the Maracana would be awesome.

Ummm no.

I doubt it's FIFA's policy to hold it's prized event in a nation currently embroiled in civil war. Additionaly, Bogota is one of the most violent cities in the world.

Colombia's request to host the WC is a complete joke. Why not Iraq 2018?

Correction, it used to be one of the most violent cities in the world, today is as violent as it is New York or Mexico D.F.

Correction, it used to be one of the most violent cities in the world, today is as violent as it is New York or Mexico D.F.


Yes, I was wrong. Bogota has improved. :)

but still.....NO! and canada? do they have a league? or any decetn stadiums?

Argentina-Brazil wouldn't make sense, because either country could host it by themselves. However i'd rather see Argentina hosting a Copa América than a world cup.:o

Meh, Australia will just switch to CSF.


CSF??? :S

Ummm no.

I doubt it's FIFA's policy to hold it's prized event in a nation currently embroiled in civil war. Additionaly, Bogota is one of the most violent cities in the world.

Colombia's request to host the WC is a complete joke. Why not Iraq 2018?


thats the dumbest comment ever...

same thing can be said about Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo.... pretty much the big citys in SOuth america have violence

but still.....NO! and canada? do they have a league? or any decetn stadiums?



Canada has stadiums, and with improvement they could easily host a world cup specially with the great transportation in this country.

About a league thats another thing, if Canada was to host a World cup it would create a decent league to the country

PS- Canada is hosting the World Youth Cup 2007 - we'll see how it turns out :)

Irs being kept under wraps but it was said in some show that the US and Canada are wanting to come together to host either the 2014 or 2018 World Cup. Dont kno why the US would need Canada to get involved.

Five new stadiums? One or two will be enough and then just renovate the old ones.
The only World Cup-level stadium we have is Atletico Paranaense's "Arena da Baixada", and that only if they increase the capacity (they couldn't host the Libertadores final there against Sao Paulo last season due to capacity reasons.)

I believe Maracana is ok too after being worked on (for next year Pan Am games) and it should be one of the stadiums, just because.

Most decent stadia (in league standards) are located in the South/Southeast, so it'd be a political problem...

Serra Dourada and maybe Mangueirao are ok, not sure about other places.

Choosing among the current stadia, it'd be something like this: (I'm considering there wouldn't be 2 stadia in the same city to host the matches)

Good with some work:
Maracana - Rio de Janeiro (122268)
Morumbi - Sao Paulo (73501)
Mineirao - Belo Horizonte (81000)
Olimpico or Beira Rio - Porto Alegre (51000 or 58000)
Arena da Baixada - Curitiba (31102)
Serra Dourada - Goiania (60000)
Mangueirao - Belem (54600)

Cities that would also probably host matches, that would need major work or new stadia:
Salvador (with the main clubs playing in the Third Division, I can't see how it'd happen, but it's an important city, and I doubt it'd be left out of a World Cup)
Recife
Campinas (Important city football wise, though it's too close to Sao Paulo) or Sao Jose do Rio Preto (Decent stadium already, though not as important football-wise as Campinas)
Natal?
Maceio?

Didnt Coritiba had a revamp in their stadium aswell? Couto Pereira looks pretty good if you ask me. Here in Campinas, i only see Brinco de Ouro having a shot, since it's already capable of receiving 30-35K. Would be nice to re-model it a bit for a big event.

Also, Ribeirão Preto got the Santa Cruz stadium. Taking a close at our stadiums, the capacity and potential is there. The thing is most of the look like concrete pits, so we would have to put seats in all of them and make them look pretty. Because big, well, they're big.

Brinco de Ouro (H)

Colombia has no chance. Their country is amid too much chaos and corruption.

Brinco de Ouro (H)

Guarani Futebol Clube stadium, the club i support, hometown. It's called, Brinco de Ouro da Princesa, actually. (H)

Guarani Futebol Clube stadium, the club i support, hometown. It's called, Brinco de Ouro da Princesa, actually. (H)
couldn't get much better than that (H)

Oh, we Guarani supporters get a lot of stick for it already. Also, the address of the stadium is "Rua Conde D'eu" or something like that. Go figure. (6)

we have our own funny named "stadiums" aswell, like Chã das Padeiras, Campo da Pinhoca, Campo das Cabecinhas......the list is endless (H)

but no doubt Guarani has a unique stadium/address name combo.....

Canada has stadiums, and with improvement they could easily host a world cup specially with the great transportation in this country.


Right.. maybe if every game took place in Toronto, we might be able to draw about 30-50k fans

Canada will never host the WC unfortunately

u-20wc in 2007 should be great though!

Right.. maybe if every game took place in Toronto, we might be able to draw about 30-50k fans

Canada will never host the WC unfortunately

u-20wc in 2007 should be great though!


im not sure what your taking about but have you seen the stadiums of the cfl?

like i said, with renovations on those stadiums, Canada could easily host a world cup

Didnt Coritiba had a revamp in their stadium aswell? Couto Pereira looks pretty good if you ask me. Here in Campinas, i only see Brinco de Ouro having a shot, since it's already capable of receiving 30-35K. Would be nice to re-model it a bit for a big event.

Also, Ribeirão Preto got the Santa Cruz stadium. Taking a close at our stadiums, the capacity and potential is there. The thing is most of the look like concrete pits, so we would have to put seats in all of them and make them look pretty. Because big, well, they're big.
Yeah, Santa Cruz is decent enough, and so is Volta Redonda's new stadium, but you run the risk of concentrating too many matches in the South/Southeast and have other places' fans complaining. How to deny Belem a match when Remo has been leading the supporters attendance table even though they're not in the top division?

S.America federation unaware of Colombia Cup bid (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=2006-07-17T215255Z_01_N17195642_RTRUKOC_0_US-SOCCER-WORLD-COLOMBIA.xml&archived=False)

As it seems, we have clear preference for holding 2014, regardless of any foreseeable money wasting and poor scheduling. Oh well...

Atlético-PR perto de acertar com BNDES para concluir Arena (http://br.esportes.yahoo.com/060718/4/16x83.html)

Basically it tells the federal government is willing to finance the expansion of Arena da Baixada (aka Kyocera Arena, but I hate sponored names) from its current 32k capacity to ~50k - thus meeting WC standards. Arena da Baixada is arguably our most modern stadium, and will surely be a venue whenever a World cup takes place here. Some pics to put it into perspective:

http://www.atleticopr.com.br/imagens/diretorios/diretorio43/arquivo670.jpg

http://www.atleticopr.com.br/imagens/diretorios/diretorio43/arquivo587.jpg

http://www.atleticopr.com.br/imagens/diretorios/diretorio43/arquivo591.jpg

http://www.atleticopr.com.br/imagens/diretorios/diretorio43/arquivo950.gif

(on this last shot, notice how there is a missing stand. Word has it that the school lying at that paticulars site is owned by a supporter of local rivals Coritiba which refused to sell the terrain for a long time...that will be the site of the mentioned expansion)

Yeah, Santa Cruz is decent enough, and so is Volta Redonda's new stadium, but you run the risk of concentrating too many matches in the South/Southeast and have other places' fans complaining. How to deny Belem a match when Remo has been leading the supporters attendance table even though they're not in the top division?

Let's not forget politics...even more as general elections are held in World Cup years around here. Brazilian administration + large geografical spread + political pressures may get the organization VERY chaotic. Still, as Kibe said it would be very unfair to make it a South/Southeast Brazil cup.

And BTW, worth mentioning Johansesburg will have TWO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_World_Cup#Venues) venues on SA 2010. As lousy as it may sound, that will open a precedent.

We can have a few matches up there on Nordeste. Mangueirão is World Cup material if it gets a some touches here and there. It's a beautiful stadium. Fonte Nova aswell, it needs a full revamp even though the thing is huge. I can see it having a NT game.

Also, there is one or other stadium at Amazonas that had a NT game once in a while, is it Vivaldão? At Maceió, CRB's stadium can be used aswell. I would pick 12 stadiums, them being:

Maracanã
Morumbi
Brinco de Ouro
Mineirão
Serra Dourada
Beira Rio
Arena da Baixada
Mangueirão
Fonte Nova
Vivaldão (or some other stadium in Amazonas)
CRB/CSA stadium (dont know the name)
Arruda

Not a bad list methinks. Has at least one stadium in each region aswell.

Very likely venues...I only seriously doubt Manaus which is waay too far. They'd probably (re)build something at Brasilia, even for the touristic attractiveness of the city. Less likely, they might devise another venue at South-Southeast (Santa Catarina? Pacaembu?? :rolleyes: )

Can't we wait until Corinthians' new stadium is built? (H) :(

Thing is, loads of money will be spent, and we risk not using the stadia to their full capacity after the World Cup. I mean, ok, build a nice 50k stadium somewhere in, say, Brasilia. Can you see it holding more than 5k after the World Cup?

And BTW, worth mentioning Johansesburg will have TWO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_World_Cup#Venues) venues on SA 2010. As lousy as it may sound, that will open a precedent.
I don't know how many stadia SA have, or how many of them are football-specific, so maybe it's their only option... IMO we can't do it here, though I can see Sao Paulo getting two stadia somehow.

A new one for Corinthians and a new one for Palmeiras i guess? Anyway, looking at my list, you can see there's not a single one new stadium. I seriouly doubt we are going to fill in a stadium if China x Togo are playing, for example.

In the matter of fact, i think most games are not going to have a filled stadium except for big team ones and Brasil's. We dont have football appreciators here (mostly, consider the guys that post here a exception), we have team supporters. They stop caring about the competition once their club is eliminated.

That's my biggest fear. Lack of interest in other not-so-relevant games.

Colombia can organize 2014 world cup very good, and it can be a surprise for the entire world and for all the people that say is impossible a world cup there.

First, the political problems of that country are now finishing, the drugs cartels are disappearing and the war against rebel groups will be finished in 3 or 4 years, the kidnapping is lowering, the corruption there is as normal as in Italy, USA, etc... And is disappearing too. I think the 2014 W.C. is the great Colombian opportunity to show to the world that all the problems that country used to have are finishing in these days.

second, Colombia can't organized 1986 W.C. because the president of that time used all the money Colombia had to organized that W.C. (yes, Colombia had all the money and that world cup could be done without problems) in order to finance new schools, new hospitals and many social projects, but this time, the new president said that he was not going to use the money that Colombia have to organize the world Cup in other things.

Thirdly, Colombia receives much money from coffee (C) , tourism, flowers and many other products and activities :boohoo: . As you see Colombia is not as poor as you think that country has much money and can organize an excellent W.C.

In fourth place, Colombia has great cities with stadiums that can be repaired, cities as Bogotá, Cali, Medellin, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Manizales, Cucuta, Bucaramanga, Tunja and Pasto.

Finally, Colombia is a beautiful country, the cities are now safety places (compared to which they were some time ago), I have gone to that country and nothing has passed me, I felt in love with that country and I'm sure the W.C.C 2014 can be one of the best would be organized if it becomes Colombia.

So we see ourselves in Colombia 2014!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ewan: :fool: :fool:

A new one for Corinthians and a new one for Palmeiras i guess? Anyway, looking at my list, you can see there's not a single one new stadium. I seriouly doubt we are going to fill in a stadium if China x Togo are playing, for example.

In the matter of fact, i think most games are not going to have a filled stadium except for big team ones and Brasil's. We dont have football appreciators here (mostly, consider the guys that post here a exception), we have team supporters. They stop caring about the competition once their club is eliminated.

That's my biggest fear. Lack of interest in other not-so-relevant games.

Spot on, mate. 31-5-06. 1st div match, Flamengo (largest fanbase in Brazil, in rather bad form) 2 - 1 Palmeiras (among the big 4 in São Paulo state, even worse than Fla ATM). Venue: Maracanã. Public: 4709, for a whooping renevue of 26k USD.

That says it all. I've heards complaints on those issues about Japan-Korea, here it can be far worse for most people actually have not the money for buying WC tickets.

And Josevigm: With good planning, Colombia could host a good WC - like most candidates you'd think of. That's the point. How do you think your FA would deal with the organization? The government with the infrastructure? How widespread corruption would be? In Brazil all of those are big question marks...

second, Colombia can't organized 1986 W.C. because the president of that time used all the money Colombia had to organized that W.C. (yes, Colombia had all the money and that world cup could be done without problems) in order to finance new schools, new hospitals and many social projects, but this time, the new president said that he was not going to use the money that Colombia have to organize the world Cup in other things.

...and for that matter, you think that was bad?

I wonder how many Europeans would be willing to come to S. America for a World Cup. We'll have to wait for South Africa 2010 for a preview. Last time we had a World Cup in S. Am. it was in Argentina 78, I don't know how that one went attendance wise.

I'm not sure if Colombia is able to take on his arms so difficult thing as is organize FIFA World CUp.

well there has to be some competitive bidding process than just having the one bidder.

so i think the 2 bids is a good idea.