i heard it went from 30 to 17 ... FYI on talksport.net :ewan:

thats messed up...they should raise it not lower it...should be going from 30 to 45 lol

Fiorentina and Lazio back in A

yea they r...here the article

Lazio and Fiorentina have been reinstated to Serie A but Juventus remain in Serie B following their appeals against the sanctions imposed on them as a result of the match-fixing scandal.

The Rome and Florence outfits were originally relegated to Serie B and docked seven and 12 points respectively for the new season, but they returned to the top flight following an announcement by federal court president Piero Sandulli on Tuesday night.

Fiorentina will start the new season with a 19-point deduction, while Lazio will start with an 11-point deficit.

Juventus, the club hardest hit for breaking Italian Football Federation (FIGC) rules, remain in Serie B but have had their 30-point deduction reduced to 17.

But AC Milan, who avoided relegation under the original verdict, have seen their 15-point penalty for next season reduced to eight.

total crap - no justice for the teams who played by the book

What a joke, but what did you expect...

+ they give Juve a 3 game stadium ban. FOR WHAT?

Absolute joke. Everybody in A except Juve. They'll appeal to the civil court and get serie A.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=405653&CPID=21&clid=128&lid=4161&title=JUVE+DEMOTED,+DUO+REPRIEVED
****.

soccernet is reporting that Milan might be back in CL :|

Court confirm Juve drop, Lazio and Viola reprieve

ROME, July 25 (Reuters) - An appeals court confirmed on Tuesday that Juventus will play in Italy's second division Serie B next season but reduced the penalty points imposed on the soccer club for their involvement in a match-fixing scandal from -30 points to -17.

The court overturned a sports tribunal's decision to relegate Fiorentina and Lazio, allowing them stay in the top flight Serie A league next season but with penalty points. Fiorentina will start the new season with -19 points and Lazio with -11 points.

Initial reports suggest that AC Milan have been reinstated in the UEFA Champions League.

More follows....

Jesus, what a f*cking joke :| :nape:

the gazzetta dello sport has report that Milan will play the preliminars of champions league, and its official :rockman:

yea, Milan ARE in the CL...they have to qualify (skysportS)
It's a load of BS....

would you sacrife winning some titles for your team at the expense of playing 2nd division for a year?

this is a slap on the wrist. :kader:

What did you expect? Italian football is a farce.

The relegation of Juventus to Serie B for their role in a match-fixing scandal was confirmed by an Italian soccer appeal court on Tuesday but Lazio and Fiorentina received a reprieve and will stay in Serie A.

AC Milan will also remain in the top flight as decided previously with a smaller number of points deducted - minus eight rather than minus 15. They will also be entered for the third qualifying round of the Champions League.

Juve did receive some clemency with the appeals court reducing the penalty points they start next season with from minus 30 to minus 17.

The decision to revoke the last two Italian league titles won by Juventus in 2005 and 2006 was confirmed by the appeals court although no decision has yet been made on who will be declared champions for those two seasons.

While not the kind of change the Turin club had hoped for the reduction does give them a chance to push for promotion back to the top flight Serie A next season.

The court overturned a tribunal's decision to relegate Fiorentina and Lazio, allowing them to stay in Serie A next season but with a heavy penalty.

Fiorentina will start the new season with minus 19 points and Lazio with minus 11 points.

AC Milan's penalty points for next season were reduced from minus 15 to minus 8 and the retrospective punishment on last season's points tally was reduced from minus 44 to minus 30.

Italy's two teams automatically entered in the Champions League next season will be Inter Milan and AS Roma.

Milan and Chievo Verona will play in the qualification round.

soccernet.com

Fiorentina and Lazio back in A

:rockman:

The only good thing that comes of this for me is that Mutu and Lobont are back in top flight football (Y).

Will Milan be seeded in the 3rd round draw?

what a joke

italy's corruption knows no bounds :nape:

why because Milan is not on serie B or because they are playing in champions league ?

:S :S :S they just said in swedish television that milan wont play CL :S :S :S but i guess you guys are right, thats ****. why the hell did they have to change the desicion now, i thought the old one was fair enought.

this absolutely ridiculous. They had a chance to set an example for the world and they **** it up ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS Decisions.

what a joke!

**** milan.

**** milan.
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WYRUCHALI JUVE

jebac milan jebac!! do domu!! buu!!

that's fvckin crazy, what a joke! bull**** ;/

berlusconi = :sb9:
ac milan = :sb9:
italian judge = :sb9:

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Pah. Down with Italian soccer.

MLS > Serie A

You know what's the biggest farce? Inter getting the 2005-06 scudetto and Milan not receiving the 2004-05 one.

Also being penalised 8 points to start the season for doing nothing wrong.

If we win the scudetto next season I will rub it in the face of the Interistas for the next 40 years that they lost the scudetto to their city rivals who started the season with a big penalisation, I can't wait.

Orange Ekstraklasa > Serie A

i wonder why the hate towards Milan, is not like the save anything.... there were in serie A from the first time, the only "reward" was to play the champions league and we will have to qualify.

They never were in jeopardy to go to serie B, now... why not against Lazio and Fiore that were very well reward by playing in serie A and saving a lot of fanancial problems.

You know what's the biggest farce? Inter getting the 2005-06 scudetto and Milan not receiving the 2004-05 one.

Also being penalised 8 points to start the season for doing nothing wrong.

If we win the scudetto next season I will rub it in the face of the Interistas for the next 40 years that they lost the scudetto to their city rivals who started the season with a big penalisation, I can't wait.


Are u serious. hahahaha

You know what's the biggest farce? Inter getting the 2005-06 scudetto and Milan not receiving the 2004-05 one.

Also being penalised 8 points to start the season for doing nothing wrong.

If we win the scudetto next season I will rub it in the face of the Interistas for the next 40 years that they lost the scudetto to their city rivals who started the season with a big penalisation, I can't wait.

Don't act like Milan is whiter than white, they've been down this road before, they knew exactly what they were doing.

haha you guys know EXACTLY NOTHING AT ALL and are saying Fio, Lazio and Milan and Italian football in general is screwed up.

and you laugh at Stephan for stating the facts. can you tell me what warrants these three teams a place in Serie B/harsher sentences?

Don't act like Milan is whiter than white, they've been down this road before, they knew exactly what they were doing.

That was in 1980, we had different board, and we payed with Serie B demotion for that case. Berlusconi is our president since 1986 only and although he is not the "cleanest" person in politics and media dossiers, AC Milan is his hobby and he never did anything punisheable when it comes to his team management.

In this calciopoli affair, viewing the little evidence (the so called Meani phonecall), and following the case since the beginning every day of the week I must say that AC Milan are only victims in this case and Inter is the sole benefitor of the whole situation. (it influenced the first verdicts by Rossi, Palazzi and Borelli, all famous Interistas in charge of the whole trial)

Inter is the sole benefitor as they will receive a scudetto they don't deserve because not won on the field of play and one of their rivals (Juventus) is out of Serie A for several years.(they had to sell lots of their players and likely a few more will depart, one or two of those to... Inter.)

Also, Berlusconi made lots of ennemies in his non footbalistic activities like business and politics and his foes are trying to get to him by punishing his "child" AC Milan. It's sad millions of fans have to pay for that also.

Italian football hey .. soft on and off the pitch :funny:

“There is absolutely no way we can accept this sentence”

President Giovanni Cobolli Gigli comments on the decision of the Corte Federale to condemn Juventus to Serie B with a 17 point penalty: “There is absolutely no way we can accept this sentence. Taking into consideration the facts which have so far been brought to light, the sentence cannot be deemed a balanced one. Furthermore, I find the differential judicial treatment afforded to the other clubs most serious and completely unjustified. The ramifications for Juventus are extremely serious: the 2004/2005 scudetto has been revoked and, despite having nothing to do with the inquest, so has that of 2005/2006; we are also unable to participate in any international competitions. Above all, a punishment has been inflicted on us which will seriously jeopardise next season. Since the recordings of the first phone calls were released, the club has pursued one sole objective: to exercise clarity and it has done so without hesitation. For these reasons, we have decided to continue with our case and appeal to every possible body. I can confirm that we will not stop until justice is done, in the interests of our extraordinary fans, our share-holders, the club, and, of course, the football league.

shhh Mark, youre gonna get flamed by these fans who are claiming "justice". or in other words, your players.


now the Calciopoli is gonna force the league to start late, AGAIN.

That was in 1980, we had different board, and we payed with Serie B demotion for that case. Berlusconi is our president since 1986 only and although he is not the "cleanest" person in politics and media dossiers, AC Milan is his hobby and he never did anything punisheable when it comes to his team management.

In this calciopoli affair, viewing the little evidence (the so called Meani phonecall), and following the case since the beginning every day of the week I must say that AC Milan are only victims in this case and Inter is the sole benefitor of the whole situation. (it influenced the first verdicts by Rossi, Palazzi and Borelli, all famous Interistas in charge of the whole trial)

Inter is the sole benefitor as they will receive a scudetto they don't deserve because not won on the field of play and one of their rivals (Juventus) is out of Serie A for several years.(they had to sell lots of their players and likely a few more will depart, one or two of those to... Inter.)

Also, Berlusconi made lots of ennemies in his non footbalistic activities like business and politics and his foes are trying to get to him by punishing his "child" AC Milan. It's sad millions of fans have to pay for that also.
You act like Milan is the angel of Italian football and were COMPLETELY f*cked with this sentence. You should be damn happy that they only got 8 points less and no Serie B. Ofcourse im happy that Milan and especially Fiorentina (who started from 0, their fans dont deserve this!)stay in A. I have respect for Milan, but plz dont say they are completely innocent. Because they arent! I followed this as much as you did. And we all know all the 4 clubs were in it.
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Yeah, it's in the interest of the football league to have the cheats back in.

All four should have been awarded a Serie C1 place.
Instead, this is like an invitation to other clubs to do the same, because you're guaranteed leniency. I love it when people call Serie A the best league in the world. It's a joke, and a bad one at that.

Seeing as this appeal didn't do us any good, I'd rather stick with the first sentence and have Milan out of the CL.

As far as I know, Milan were charged with almost the same if not the same stuff Juve was and look at the difference in sentences.

On another note, how can people who work for clubs also be on the League board??? Seems like both Milan clubs are quite well represented in the board.

Belu makes up the sentences and the Internistas approve...

LOL

Milan charged with almost the same stuff as Juve..? :|

What was the point in making such sentences at the beginning, then reducing them? I admit they may appear harsh in the first place but these appeals shouldn't happen, the right decision should be made in the first place and stuck to it. The fact that you can appeal without any extra evidence etc. (or was there more) is just a complete farce.

Whats the point in having the initial punishments if they're just going to be reduced in an appeal?

Do any of you douchebags even know why Milan were punished in the first place? it was complete nonsense that they had such a severe penalty in the first place, and I think this one is still harsh, but at least theyre allowed back in the Champions League.

Juventus will easily make up that 17 point deficit and be back in Serie A in a year... maybe Zambrotta and Cannavaro shouldve stayed.

Do any of you douchebags even know why Milan were punished in the first place?

For being twats

Corrupt maggots don't know how not to cheat.

What a total friggin joke... :nape:

Series A > All and you know it. At least it should be less likely to lose many more good players now.

Juventus got off easy, for the rest though their punishments now are fine.

Well Juventus will be back in Series A in a year now, as there gonna completely dominate Series B.

MLS > Serie A
:rockman:

:rockman:
:nape:

Juventus got off easy, for the rest though their punishments now are fine.


Give me a break. :rolleyes:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1203/bullscheidtfm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

juve gonna fix matches in serie b to get to serie a this year?

All this ruling has done is further highlight how rotten to the core Italian football is really.

:kader:

hahaha, man what a slap in the face to Juve :( very happy with the outcome though, CL football and we can still win the league :rockman:

i thought u didnt support milan anymore

...Palermo :( :(
At least Fiorentina won't have to go through all that hell again in order to return get back to top flight (a lightning does not fall twice on the same spot...), it would be damn sad.

for a minute there I had respect for the Lega Nazionale for cracking down on corrupt play, but it seems they stooped to a new low

Series A > All and you know it. At least it should be less likely to lose many more good players now.

LOL i laughed out loud when I read that. Seria A is far from entertaining.

I'd rather watch West Bromwich vs Tottenham before watching any Juve game whether Seria A or B.

juve gonna fix matches in serie b to get to serie a this year?
give it a go, why not?

thats the spirit.

i thought u didnt support milan anymore

I just read that we're back in the CL and our point deduction's been decreased, so I like them again now :D




















:rolleyes:

what is amazing to me, is and i'm sorry to say this, but some of the fans of these teams on this boards claiming the innocense of their teams even though they were found guilty.

even l'OM fans where more realistic when the southerners pulled that bs a few years ago.

how can you call the judges corrupted when the director's board of YOUR teams pulled that bs??

who's more corrupted the judges you so high and mightily accused of corruption? or the board of directors from your team?, is your team not deserving of punishment?, or do you just want a slap in the hands and a "don't do it again"?

oh then you blame the players when they leave your corrupted teams, is that their fault?, do they have to suffer the punishment for something they didn't do and obviously wouldn't have agreed on?.

well, you gotta remeber justice is still being served.

All the upper managment and people guilty at that level of match fixing are still banned.

The punishments now just have less of an impact on the players.

DC United > Milan

Red Bulls > DC (H)

what is amazing to me, is and i'm sorry to say this, but some of the fans of these teams on this boards claiming the innocense of their teams even though they were found guilty.

even l'OM fans where more realistic when the southerners pulled that bs a few years ago.

how can you call the judges corrupted when the director's board of YOUR teams pulled that bs??

who's more corrupted the judges you so high and mightily accused of corruption? or the board of directors from your team?, is your team not deserving of punishment?, or do you just want a slap in the hands and a "don't do it again"?

oh then you blame the players when they leave your corrupted teams, is that their fault?, do they have to suffer the punishment for something they didn't do and obviously wouldn't have agreed on?.

Meani (Milan's accused) is not on the board. Far from it.

Charlotte Eagles > Juventus

They can win their league without cheating :)

DC United > Milan

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/57471318.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A67235F23BAA349EA9 59D55AD35CA51490

DC United > Milan

You wish.

I cant wait till DC United gets owned by Real Madrid in August.

You aint gonna get nothing past Cannavaro.

You wish.

I cant wait till DC United gets owned by Real Madrid in August.

You aint gonna get nothing past Cannavaro.

Just like Madrid beat Tokyo Verdy in pre-season last year?

It was hilarious because Verdy had just been decked 6-1 by Gamba Osaka DAYS eariler.

Just like Madrid beat Tokyo Verdy in pre-season last year?

It was hilarious because Verdy had just been decked 6-1 by Gamba Osaka DAYS eariler.

well you know, you cant win em everytime. Plus they have Cannavaro now :)

Gamba would win the Italian league, unbeaten no less.

Everyone needs to calm the f*ck down in this here thread. I can guess based on username exactly what the comment is going to be

The funniest thing to me was Lazio's response, which was apparrently one of "this is unacceptable". Their club would have been completely and totally f*cked if they went down to B because theyre so skint. Serie B couldve been a permanent death sentence a la Leeds, but even with the point deduction in A, they will probably struggle not to get relagated. Fiorentina should be fine

Milan were still one of my favorites to finish top 3 before, but I can confidently pick them to win the league this year. If they supposedly made one phone call to the Italian FA to bitch about officiating as is accused of them, then I think their punishment is more than fitting right now. Out of the CL too would have been a bit harsh, but I cant argue that the Italians made an example out of "corrupt" clubs two weeks ago, and now theyre giving back some of that ground pretty weakly

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/57471318.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A67235F23BAA349EA9 59D55AD35CA51490

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/UCL/304894_MEDIUMSQUARE.jpg

You wish.

I cant wait till DC United gets owned by Real Madrid in August.

You aint gonna get nothing past Cannavaro.

If it wasn't for the MLS, Canada wouldn't even know what soccer is.

I knew about European leagues long before I even knew wtf an MLS was.

http://beskit.de/100%25tiganie/Tiganii%20prelucrat/index.jpg

I knew about European leagues long before I even knew wtf an MLS was.



same here.

We dont exactly take our soccer teams here in Canada seriously, as we know that Hockey is our specialty not soccer. If Canada was in the World Cup id still be cheering for Italy.

Dude, I just wanna start blindly hating on other teams through pictures. This can be fun (H)

i'll kick things off
http://sport.ard.de/sp/komponente/bildergalerie/fussball/200404/img/real_anzeigentafel_dpa_400.jpg

(H)

http://www.raithroversfc.com/data/downloads/rrfc_bayern_640.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40185000/jpg/_40185654_anelka_pa.jpg

couldn't find one with the FT scoreboard :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41173000/jpg/_41173633_mcdonald.jpg

leave it to bobby to refer to a scottish second division club, and leave it to rony to STILL celebrate that penalty :D

back to the topic..


Moratti has been appointed President of Lega, replacing Galliani.

Here's his first words:"Galliani, presidente of the Lega? No, it wouldn't be fair, a clear conflict of interest."

haha

anyone still convinced Inter are NOT behind all this?

Yes, it must be Inter, the side that cant win anything that are now fixing the league to create a new era of dominance. They must have gotten your sentence reduced, too, so that they can come up with a new, hideous way to choke the leauge away


know what, just for that

http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/pics/regular/Depor_035.jpg

Own Goal of The Century

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38896000/jpg/_38896609_hasselbaink_og300.jpg

http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/pics/regular/Depor_035.jpg

Biggest no show ever!!!

This decision is SOOOOOO CRAP. Lazio and Fiorentina cheated 4 games for ****s sake and you let them stay in Serie A with some weak ass points deduction and a stadium ban????????? :kader: :kader: :kader:


They should go hard on this teams, so that nobody will EVER do that stuff again. Everybody including Milan and Juventus were let off the hook big time, this type of crap so be punished with no mercy or any option of appeal. Dissapointed in Italian FA :nape:

']Own Goal of The Century

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38896000/jpg/_38896609_hasselbaink_og300.jpg

Nonsense. Lauren's v. Man City was MUCH better. He rifelled that thing in.

Ahhh what the hell:



http://www.lsa-soccer.org/IndexGraphics/Lance%20Green%202005%20Girls%20Coach%20of%20the%20 Year%20001.jpg

http://www.turksportal.net/tsi/v2/image/Haber/liverpool_milan_scoreboard.JPG

:rolleyes:

once is fine, twice is just rubbing it in!

']Own Goal of The Century

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38896000/jpg/_38896609_hasselbaink_og300.jpg



oooooohhh Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy

see how easily you get sucked into it (H)

the funny thing is that in the first sentece Milan were the only team not relegated, but everybody thinks that just because is a big club and is not in serie B... justice is unfair. I mean as hard as it was in the beginning it was clearly that Milan did wrong but not as much as the other clubs to be relegate it, and if you ask me the fact that Galliani was the head of calcio was part the of punishment, fairly enough tho.

Now yeah i agree that Lazio should thank god for staying in serie A because their financial situation is bad in serie A and if they play in serie B wow.... bankrupcy (sp?) was inminent, as far as Fiore they should have been in serie B but they have taste hell already.

']Own Goal of The Century

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38896000/jpg/_38896609_hasselbaink_og300.jpg
I didnt wanna have to do this, but BlueBalla is just too kind for his own sake. Instead, now you got me, a cold hearted son of a gun pulling out the big guns.

http://i1.tinypic.com/1zxws3b.jpg

:(

I knew about European leagues long before I even knew wtf an MLS was.

http://beskit.de/100%25tiganie/Tiganii%20prelucrat/index.jpg

That's not a Romanian license plate (H)

you talk about own goals, you talk about the legend Frank Sinclair.

Frank Sinclair is rumoured to have scored around 25-30 own goals in his professional football career.

Most of these happened while playing at Leicester City F.C. - one a great leap at Highbury to give Arsenal a 1-0 win, another at home to Chelsea, where he beat Tore Andre Flo to the ball to smash it into his own net, both these coming in the last minute. But the most bizarre of all was after 3 minutes in a game at Middlesbrough where he slotted the ball past keeper Ian Walker in a seemingly laid-back situation.
fortunately I was lucky enough to watch those, remembering them still brings a tear of joy to my eye.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39921000/jpg/_39921937_sinclair_203x152em.jpg

:Bow:

jonh terry....

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41364000/jpg/_41364750_terryog_getty.jpg

I didnt wanna have to do this, but BlueBalla is just too kind for his own sake. Instead, now you got me, a cold hearted son of a gun pulling out the big guns.

http://i1.tinypic.com/1zxws3b.jpg

Like I said before, his facial expression, body posture and just plain aura has Milan painted all over :(












still a depressing sight

BANG






http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2002/06/18/equaliser.jpg




by the way, from the article massive
pulled:
"He scored his first (and to date only) Burnley goal in a 2-1 home win against Rotherham United."

Tom's local feels the force of Frank the Tank (H)

You know what? Since most peeps here still have to grow brains and are blinded by their hatred for Milan, I'm going to play their game along, here enjoy :

HEY ****HEADS WE're IN A and IN CL and WE LIKE IT BECAUSE we PWN you!!!1!!11! ELEVEN!!

You know what? Since most peeps here still have to grow brains and are blinded by their hatred for Milan, I'm going to play their game along, here enjoy :

HEY ****HEADS WE're IN A and IN CL and WE LIKE IT BECAUSE we PWN you!!!1!!11! ELEVEN!!


I had great respect for Milan before this. Not blinded by hatred, just don't like to see teams cheating, which your club, like it or not, did.

ok, then please, tell me, what did Milan do..? no one has answered this question, really..

They fixed a game.


Now an 8 point deficit is fine, but letting them into CL after this is unacceptable. Same goes to Lazio and Fiorentina, they got luckier than Milan though.

I just hope eurpean fans will take the right measures and boo the italian clubs all the game when they play in international competition. UEFA should take steps and disqualify italian teams from all international competitions fr next 7 years, if they don't want to fight against corruption, then UEFA has to draw the consequenes.
Italian Football is a shame for Europe.

...UEFA should take steps and disqualify italian teams from all international competitions fr next 7 years,...
They won't do this. Teams like AC Milan make them too much money.

They fixed a game.

see, that sums it up.


Im tired of defending Milan already. You guys are so convinced by non-facts.

this was the biggest joke ever this is going to stop match fixing it is going to encourage it :nape: and the teams are still appealing

So they transformed the ass paddling into a wrist slap. No wonder why I look down on Italian football.

As for Inter, if they find some way to f*ck up this year, then they will never win the scudetto. After all, being an Interista is like being a Red Sox fan, pre-2004.

:-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: FIGC

I just read this as my first news of the morning....what a way to ruin my day...

I guess in calcio cheaters do prosper....what a complete joke...and I actually used to enjoy Serie A.....

']back to the topic..


Moratti has been appointed President of Lega, replacing Galliani.

Here's his first words:"Galliani, presidente of the Lega? No, it wouldn't be fair, a clear conflict of interest."

haha

anyone still convinced Inter are NOT behind all this?


This just speaks volumes of how ****ed up and fraudulent this league is..... :kader: There's NO way in hell that Moratti would accept this position........why is it even being offered to him?

Just speaks to how ridiculous this league really is, man.........sheesh!

Wow, this isn't even funny anymore, I wonder how much they paid the judges.

Wow, this isn't even funny anymore, I wonder how much they paid the judges.

Slightly less than what your fellow countryman Merk got paid for annulating the valid Sheva goal in the CL semi-final.

I just hope eurpean fans will take the right measures and boo the italian clubs all the game when they play in international competition. UEFA should take steps and disqualify italian teams from all international competitions fr next 7 years, if they don't want to fight against corruption, then UEFA has to draw the consequenes.
Italian Football is a shame for Europe.

cause the players really deserve to be booed....

some of you people are so biased its not even funny.

I hope AC Milan wins because of people like you.

UEFA may axe Milan

Milan may still be banned from competing in next season’s Champions League by UEFA, reports on Wednesday are suggesting.

Although the Rossoneri were last night re-instated into the competition following their Calciopoli appeal, UEFA could still decide to not accept their entry.

It’s understood that the European game’s footballing body will hold an emergency meeting on Thursday to discuss their options.

“The meeting has been set up to take a decision on Italy’s participants for European competition during next season,” a UEFA spokesman is quoted as saying on numerous Italian websites.

Last season’s League table suggested that Juventus, Milan, Inter and Fiorentina would take part in the 2006-07 European Cup competition.

However, as a result of the match-fixing verdicts, Inter and Roma will go directly into the competition, leaving Milan and Chievo to pre-qualify.

UEFA do have the power to decline a club entry into their competitions as William Gaillard, their head of communications, has previously outlined.

"Who plays in the European competitions will be up to the UEFA committee,” he underlined.

"In the past, the committee have made exceptions by preventing clubs from taking part in European competitions. Marseille were one case in 1993.''

The then Champions League holders, who beat Milan 1-0 in the 1993 Final, were thrown out of the competition after they were found guilty of match-fixing in the French League.

channel4

Come on Uefa, do something right for once.

You have to hold the club responsible for the actions of its directors and executives. It is the only way to resolve the problem.
If you punish just the perpetrators, then it will happen again. On the other hand, punish the entire club and you show that this is not tolerated, which should cause the fans and the clubs to demand clean dealings from their executives.

Now this whole affair reeks of corruption on so many levels that really now, with the accusations flying, we will never know what exactly went on, but the punishments are too light, and the cheaters will not learn from this.

It is truly sad....

Can't see how Milan making it to the CL as a "punishment". They did something wrong and should be punished. 8 points for Milan next year is nothing. If they had 8 deducted last year , they'd be in...let's see...2nd place! Just f***ing stupid. Hopefully UEFA won't allow them to compete.

Can't see how Milan making it to the CL as a "punishment". They did something wrong and should be punished. 8 points for Milan next year is nothing. If they had 8 deducted last year , they'd be in...let's see...2nd place! Just f***ing stupid. Hopefully UEFA won't allow them to compete.

You just say that because we take the "spot" of your club in the preleminaries of CL, guess what? Palermo doesn't deserve to be in CL because you guys finished on the friggin eight place.

Go cry me a river holding hands with your idiot moron president Zamparini the fool.

LOL LOL ROFLMAO Inter is officialy awarded Juventus' scudetto 2005-06 WAHAHAHAHAHA what a friggin disgrace. I bet they're celebrating it too, vergogna incredibile!

Another proof the first trial was entirely orchestrated by Inter! Add this to the fact that the presentation of their new season shirts, three weeks ago, they already moved the coppa italia badge to the sleeve of said shirts to leave space for the scudetto on the chest!!!!

Now if either Juve or Milan would have been cleared in the trials, they would have either retained or been awarded the scudetto in Inter's place, yet these already had the shirts designed :) Now, that is some serious corruption if you ask me.

']see, that sums it up.


Im tired of defending Milan already. You guys are so convinced by non-facts.

You're right, it does sum it up

MILAN
Articoli violati: 2 e 6 (responsabilità oggettiva e diretta)
Dirigenti: Galliani (art.1), Meani (artt. 1 e 6)
Accusa: Atti diretti ad alterare il corretto svolgimento o il risultato della partita: Milan-Chievo
Responsabilità: oggettiva
Sanzione minima: penalizzazione di uno o più punti in classifica. Se inefficace la sanzione può essere applicata nella stagione che sta per partire.
Sanzione massima: retrocessione in Serie B


Now, quit bitching, because you got a ******* Christmas present half a year earlier. Thanks.

Slightly less than what your fellow countryman Merk got paid for annulating the valid Sheva goal in the CL semi-final.


lol

As soon as Milan got charged, you began searching for situations where Milan, deliberately or not, were damaged by the ref. I guess you believe Milan were indeed at fault so you want to talk about games where Milan were robbed to make yourself believe it was right from them to attempt to influence referees.
Oh and, by the way, by insinuating this, you're automatically accusing Barcelona of bribing a ref. In your own world, everybody's guilty but Milan. I don't know what you call playing six to seven minutes of injury time until Shevchenko scores a goal. It's true your club gets damaged by refs from time to time, but that happens to everyone and Milan were no more damaged than anyone else. And they made up for that by dialing.
Also, you talk about corruption in the Italian judicial system, and how the judges are being partial. Well, you're the one who should talk. You're the most biased poster I've seen on sg. You and that moron Mikey. Italy is lucky not to have someone like you as a judge.
And finally, if you knew Barcelona and the way we conduct business, you'd know we do our battles on the pitch, not on the phone. The reason you're involved in a scandal and we're not is that we have far more class than you ever will.

I hope you get banned from the Champions League, cheating scum.

']ok, then please, tell me, what did Milan do..? no one has answered this question, really..
That Meani guy, with Gallini's knowledge, called the Italian Federation to bitch about officiating and essentially pander for officiating that would be friendly.

That is my understanding of it, any I absolutely think its wrong. Am I mistaken in that or what?

You just say that because we take the "spot" of your club in the preleminaries of CL, guess what? Palermo doesn't deserve to be in CL because you guys finished on the friggin eight place.

Go cry me a river holding hands with your idiot moron president Zamparini the fool.

Listen, Milanista, you're right. Palermo doesn't deserve to play in the CL. I never said as much anyway. They finished in 8th. They lost twice to teams relegated from Serie A. They pretty much sucked. They're not ready for it. Chievo isn't a CL team either. Italy should only produce 2 CL teams, Inter and Roma. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Milan having to qualify instead of going straight to the group stages is a punishment. If they're guilty of wrongdoing, which apparently they were by the verdicts, then they should be punished. That's all. Serie A is a joke. It's a shame. :nape:

it all depends how you interpret the phone call. I dont think you can unless you speak/understand Italian AND listen to the actual call itself. it could interpreted 2 ways, which have already been mentioned:

1) Meani bitching about linesmen, says he wants linesmen who are not blind in the future
OR
2) Meani bitches about linesmen, says he wants linesmen who will call in favour of Milan in the future, right or wrong

I cannot comment on it, obviously, but of course I'd like to say it's the former case. but I still think it's bull**** that all of you come in here criticizing Milan and calling us scum for it when NO ONE knows 100% what really happened :rolleyes:















oh and Vince, we all know why you want Milan out of the CL:

http://gallery.quotidiano.net/champions_milan_bayern/big/08.jpg

(H) oh and I couldn't find any pics from the 02/03 group stages, so that'll have to do :p

As others have said... :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke:

(H) oh and I couldn't find any pics from the 02/03 group stages, so that'll have to do :p
Milan fixed the matches. :(

Milan fixed the matches. :(

nah, we just injected Pippo with racehorse steroids (H)

nah, we just injected Pippo with racehorse steroids (H)
lol !

lol

I hope you get banned from the Champions League, cheating scum.

he didnt cheat.

well at least they didn't back down and i accept a reduced penalty.

AC Milan to provisionally enter Champions League

July 27, 2006

NYON, Switzerland (AP) -- UEFA provisionally will allow AC Milan to play in the Champions League, pending a final decision next week.

UEFA said in a statement Thursday that Milan would be included in Friday's draw for the third qualifying round of the competition. A final decision will be made by next Wednesday.

Milan on Tuesday successfully appealed against a penalty it received in Italy's match-fixing scandal, which would have barred it from taking part in the Champions League.

"AC Milan will be included in the draw for the third qualifying round ... to safeguard a proper drawing procedure," UEFA said.

Milan and Italy's national federation will have a chance to argue their case for the club's inclusion while UEFA's emergency panel takes more time to examine the issue.

Any UEFA decision will be subject to possible appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, world sport's highest tribunal.


oh and Vince, we all know why you want Milan out of the CL:

Already forgot about that bs penalty call in the first leg? :fool:

which would have made it 4-2 on aggregate anyway (H) and it was a legit call :ewan:

Already forgot about that bs penalty call in the first leg? :fool:

hahaha, BS? Ismael might as well have been wearing Kahn's keeper kit when he went down like that :)

Wait a sec, if Milan can participate, assuming they get the chance to qualify, I'm assuming one of Chievo or Palermo won't be able to? Cause I'm pretty sure one country can't have the possibility of having 5 participants in the CL, right?

Palermo is the one that won't be playing the CL.

You see, the Inter peep in the precedent post follows football so closely he doesn't even know who participates in the CL after the last judgements, yet he has the arrogance to call people asswipes in other threads, how dumb can you get?

You see, the Inter peep in the precedent post follows football so closely he doesn't even know who participates in the CL after the last judgements, yet he has the arrogance to call people asswipes in other threads, how dumb can you get?


Bitter? :ewan: