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adialex 19-08-2006, 02:11:AM Which club team have the best rivalry going, here's the biggest in my country, Romania.
Steaua - Dinamo Bucharest
the fans hate the other team with all their hearts I think is one of the highest rivalry I have ever seen since I look at football :)
Axolote 19-08-2006, 02:21:AM River vs. Boca
adialex 19-08-2006, 02:28:AM this is the type of rivalry i'm talking about. I saw some scenes between these 2 and the fans looked like they were possesed! I never saw anything like that in a Real - Barca match .
big al 19-08-2006, 03:06:AM i saw green street hooligans the other day; i think its was Millwall and West Ham United; now theirs a rivalry hehehe
Bonzi 19-08-2006, 03:18:AM CSKA vs Spartak. 65 000 fans anyday.
1. Boca - River
2. Real Madrid - Barça
ShearerM4 19-08-2006, 03:53:AM 1. Newcastle v Sunderland
2. Celtic v Rangers
3. Real v Barca
4. Liverpool v Everton
5. La Galaxy vs Chivas
:jambo:
Sevillista 19-08-2006, 04:11:AM 1. Newcastle v Sunderland
2. Celtic v Rangers
3. Real v Barca
4. Liverpool v Everton
5. La Galaxy vs Chivas
:jambo:
LOL, you can't put any American rivalry before Sevilla - Betis. No English ones either.
Ny8La8 19-08-2006, 04:15:AM Can't have a rivalry thread without mentioning Fenerbahce vs. Galatasaray. :jambo:
ronnifan9 19-08-2006, 04:17:AM 1 River vs. Boca
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Madrid vs. Barça
America vs. Chivas
Root for the ones on the left, hate the ones on the right.
dannyeli 19-08-2006, 04:35:AM River - Boca
Madrid - Barca
America - Chivas
Milan - Inter
Fenerbahce vs. Galatasaray
rumanu? 19-08-2006, 04:49:AM well since the league is new, the rivalry is only in its infancy, the Melbourne Victory- Sydney FC rivalry can only get bigger, the cities try to outdo eachother in everything.
For me in world rivalries, of course Boca- River is the biggest, but also i think Man Utd- Liverpool
a good website is www.footballderbies.com
Rui10Costa 19-08-2006, 05:26:AM Benfica vs. Porto
Benfica vs. Sporting
Nimreitz 19-08-2006, 06:16:AM I think River vs. Boca is proabably the most fierce rivalry in the world.
Tosiek 19-08-2006, 07:59:AM Piast Gliwice- Górnik Zabrze :jap:
Piast Gliwice- Ruch Chorzów
Manufan_dan 19-08-2006, 08:14:AM every1 forgot united and city
smoove 19-08-2006, 02:15:PM Slavia Praha and Sparta Praha
SlowSilver 19-08-2006, 02:23:PM Madrid - Bareclona in Spain
Probably Liverpool - Manchester United in England, or Pool - Everton.
Tifon 19-08-2006, 02:42:PM Dortmund - Schalke ?
Panathinaikos - Olympiakos
FK Partizan - Crvena Zvezda (Red Star)
I wonder wiht how much intensity the "Spartak Moscow - Dinamo Kiev" matches were lived in the old USSR
Tosiek 19-08-2006, 02:57:PM Legia Warsaw-Polonia Warsaw
Legia Warsaw-Wisła Kraków
ŁKS Łódź- Widzew Łódź
MaSsiVe 19-08-2006, 02:58:PM http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jerry-Seinfeld-Dad-Again-2.jpg vs. http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/newman.jpg
Help? 19-08-2006, 03:01:PM World's greatest rivalry is Celtic vs. Rangers without a question
World's craziest though is River vs. Boca.
adialex 19-08-2006, 03:08:PM in Celtic vs. Rangers is involved also the religion The Catholics vs Protestans.
Question : If a club plays in Europe with a foreign club, their rivals who will support? with the club from their country or with the others?
VanTheMan 19-08-2006, 03:19:PM emm. according to the thread title.....
Edge and Cena
Filipower 19-08-2006, 04:18:PM http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jerry-Seinfeld-Dad-Again-2.jpg vs. http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/newman.jpg
:rofl::rofl:
abso-f'uckin-lutely..post of the thread:p
Elber2k3 19-08-2006, 04:25:PM Question : If a club plays in Europe with a foreign club, their rivals who will support? with the club from their country or with the others?
In Germany they usually support the foreign team then.
Lennon 19-08-2006, 05:25:PM River vs. Boca, by far. Other big rivalries:
Fenerbache vs. Galatasaray
Celtic vs. Rangers
Real Madrid vs. Barca
Milan vs. Inter
newbie original 19-08-2006, 05:26:PM Man. United-Liverpool
Man Utd - Liverpool
As Steven Gerrard said: "In Liverpool you grow up being told to hate Manchester United"
Last season the 'pool fans vandalised Old Trafford with signs about the Munich Air Crash everywhere.
Filipower 19-08-2006, 06:22:PM then again if you grew up in england in the 90's and you weren't from manchester, that was pretty much the only option:p
Dan the monkey 19-08-2006, 06:41:PM Wrexham vs Chester
Swansea vs Cardiff
TOON ARMY 19-08-2006, 06:53:PM Tyne-Wear during the days they could actually give us a game.
Old Firm is certainly the most hostile derby in the World as unfortunately it boils down to more than football hatred for some elements of both clubs support.
rony31 19-08-2006, 06:57:PM Arsenal - ManU's always heated (Y)
TOON ARMY 19-08-2006, 07:07:PM Arsenal - ManU's always heated (Y)
Meh, they aren't local and it's only a recent fling.
RuiCosta_10 19-08-2006, 07:51:PM River vs Boca and Gala vs Fener
1966+2006 19-08-2006, 08:17:PM united lpool
schalke dortmund
arsenal chelsea
real barca
newcastle sunderland
utd city
Punkt 19-08-2006, 09:14:PM Benfica-Porto
rony31 19-08-2006, 09:19:PM Meh, they aren't local and it's only a recent fling.
true, but it's still a great rivalry nowadays.
Mauricio 20-08-2006, 12:40:AM Milan- Inter and Boca-River are the greatest rivalry
R.Madrid-Barcelona it is an old derby but its very soft in my opinion if u compare it with english, italian, argentinean or even Brazilian ones. i think Betis-Sevilla its greater. Here in Mexico the biggest one is Chivas-America but very soft to, chivas hasnt done anything in the las decade so that made the derby less attracttive
diroix 20-08-2006, 12:48:AM World's greatest rivalry is Celtic vs. Rangers without a question
World's craziest though is River vs. Boca.
I suggest you to watch only 1 Galatasaray-Fenerbahçe match then your mind will change ;)
Voltaic Borusse 20-08-2006, 12:53:AM Yeah, the Fener v Gala matches are pretty insane.
Real Madrid v Barca
Dortmund v Schalke
pasion1 20-08-2006, 10:50:AM "http://www.answers.com/topic/major-football-rivalries"
Top 10-11 Major Football Rivalries (in no order)
<This is from site>
"Ajax vs Feyenoord
The most important rivalry in the Netherlands is that between Ajax Amsterdam and Feyenoord Rotterdam. Both have won the Dutch national championship numerous times and have dominated the Dutch league since the beginning of professional football in Holland in the 1950s. Ajax has always been the bigger of the two, and are perceived arrogant, while Feyenoord is the club supported by dockworkers from the Rotterdam port. They always feel that the media is more supportive of Ajax. Whether this is true or not depends on who you root for. In recent years PSV Eindhoven has been more successful than Feyenoord, but still people in Holland feel that there is only one classic match in the Dutch league. As of 2005 154 official matches have been played since 1922, Ajax winning 63, Feyenoord winning 51 and 39 have ended in a draw. This excludes one edition which was cancelled due to fog.
América vs Guadalajara
A long standing rivalry between the teams of two of the most important cities in México: Chivas of Guadalajara and Club América of Mexico City.
Chivas is known for a long-standing tradition of fielding only Mexican-born players, contrasting with América, who typically hires famous foreigners. América is owned by Televisa, the main communications company in México, and thus have a huge fan base in the whole country although Guadalajara also have a very large supporter base nationwide (and is owned by Jorge Vergara, through his expansive pyramid scheme Omnilife). Both teams have been very successful, each having won 10 championships.
This match is sometimes seen as the match of the 'capitalinos', the inhabitants of Mexico City, versus the 'provincianos', the people from the rest of the country. As Mexico City holds some of the economical and political power, some of the resentment boils over. However, not all 'provincianos' share this view, particularly those living in the northern city of Monterrey who also have a share of economical power in the country, their own derby, and their own particular rivalry with Mexico City.
The matches tend to be very colorful, as both Estadio Azteca in México City and Estadio Jalisco in Guadalajara seat a very large crowd of enthusiastic and roaring fans. Followers of both teams can be found on almost any city in Mexico.
Club América - 69 Wins
Chivas - 59 Wins
Draws - 63
Barcelona vs Real Madrid
The match between FC Barcelona and Real Madrid in Spain is considered a very fierce rivalry. This is due to Barcelona being a symbol of Catalan culture against that of the Castillean Real Madrid. In fact, to many the teams represent the Franco regime (Real) and the opposition to it (Barça).
Being the two most important teams in Spain, and two of the most important in the world, but also because of the popularity of the players of both clubs, the game attracts the attention of the whole world. The derby is dubbed as "El clásico" by the Spanish press. Animosity between the two clubs rose further in 2000 when Barça star player Luis Figo joined their arch-rivals in a £37 million deal. He was showered with bottles, lighters and a pig's head.
Benfica vs FC Porto
This is the biggest clash in Portugal. FC Porto, the symbol of the northern city of Porto, against SL Benfica, the big club from Lisbon, capital of Portugal. Many see this as the new power (FC Porto) in Portuguese football versus the traditional strong force (Benfica).
The matches between this two sports clubs, even in other sports such as basketball or rink hockey, always attract similar attention across the whole country, showing all the rivalry that exists between North/South of Portugal (FC Porto/Benfica).
Boca Juniors vs River Plate
These two teams from Buenos Aires, Argentina are the protagonist of the so called El Superclásico of Argentine football (The Superderby. Spanish, clásico –meaning classic– is the word used meaning derby in Argentina). The rivalry between Boca Juniors and River Plate is intense, and the teams have sometimes taken to distribute posters to tease the other team after a defeat between them or even lost in any major competition, or to show off after winning the local league or an international championship.
This derby is considered to be one of the most exciting in the world. in 2004, British newspaper The Observer made a list of the 50 sporting things you must do before you die, with Watch Boca Juniors Play River Plate in Buenos Aires at the top of the list. Due to their huge fan bases (Boca has 40% of the Argentine population and River 33%) Encuesta Hinchas, and remarkable success, this rivalry is one of great magnitude. Known worldwide for the passion of the fans, the fields of both teams are loaded with passionate songs (often based on popular Argentine rock band tunes) against their rivals, fireworks, flags and paper. There are also infrequent riots between the hardest supporters of both sides.
The history of matches between them shows a slight advantage to Boca Juniors, though Boca fans call their River counterparts "hijos nuestros" ("our sons") in allusion to statistics favouring their team. This is the record of matches between Boca Juniors and River Plate as of March 27, 2006:
Championship Played Boca Ties River
Local League 178 66 53 59
International Competitions 25 10 9 6
Friendly Matches 90 37 27 27
Local Cups 2 0 1 1
Total 295 113 90 93
statistics at RSSSF
Celtic vs Rangers
One of the most heated football matches in the world is the Old Firm derby between Celtic and Rangers. Both clubs play in Glasgow, Scotland and the match is one of the oldest derbies in the world, dating back to 1888, when Celtic first beat Rangers 5-2. The Old Firm derby is also one of the most contested matches in the world, with over 400 games having been played.
The Old Firm match is one of the most fiercely battled in the world and the crowds are rarely disappointed. It splits Glasgow in two and the rivalry is so intense that fans are warned not to wear team colours around the city at any times (Celtic's colours being green and white, while Rangers' colours are blue and red).
The matches are played at either Celtic Park with 60,000 fans or Ibrox Park in front of 50,000. Before an Old Firm game, local news coverage is often of nothing other than the game.
Rangers are considered a Protestant club with unionist and royalist supporters, while Celtic is considered a Catholic club with republican supporters. It is by far the greatest football rivalry in Britain and has long had connections with the political conflict in Northern Ireland, with thousands of fans from Northern Ireland making the trip to Scotland for these matches. Indeed, the conflict between the two clubs is so great that only three players have moved between clubs.
Rangers currently lead their bitter rivals in terms of trophies won (the most successful in fact in World Football with 107 won in all), although Celtic fans pride themselves on winning the European Cup while Rangers have not. Rangers also have an edge in the head to head history between the two clubs :-
Rangers F.C. - 242 Wins
Celtic F.C. - 190 Wins
Draws - 137
Fenerbahçe vs Galatasaray
Named as "Turkish Delight" in BBC's derby section, this is the clash of Turkey's two most successful teams. For some fans, winning the derby is more important than winning the league. Galatasaray won both the UEFA and Super Cup in 2000, and their fans tease Fenerbahçe fans because of their relative failure in European competitions. Conversely, Fenerbahçe fans mock their opponents due to recent derby results, such as the 2002/03 match in which Fenerbahçe won 6-0 at home. The fans of the two teams are traditionally split along class lines, with Fenerbahçe being the working class team and Galatasaray - who were founded by Galatasaray Lycee students - the more aristocratic. Fenerbahçe is a bit more successful than Galatasaray in the derby, which was first played in 1909. Even though there are ethnic, geographic or religious differences between sides in other derbies in the world, there's almost no difference between Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray fans; they are all Turks and most of them would react in the same way in another issue meaning that they don't like the other side because they are of Fenerbahçe or Galatasaray.
Flamengo vs Vasco
Main article: Clássico dos Milhões
The so-called "Clássico dos Milhões" (The Millions' Derby), named after the largest fanbases in Rio (and arguably across the country, if one discounts São Paulo state's sheer demographic weight), is considered by most the top Brazilian derby. It has been played since 1923 as Vasco da Gama rose to first division to clinch on the fly its first title, just to be denied an unbeaten row by Flamengo. This was celebrated by the latter as a title of its own and triggered from year 1 a nation-wide rivalry, at first on grounds of social and racial issues (Vasco was founded by Portuguese immigrants and was the first Brazilian club to include black players), and later on mass appeal as Flamengo grew progressively from its aristocratic origins to become the most popular Brazilian side. At state league level, both teams have been major winners: since 1923, Flamengo won 24 cups while Vasco won 22 (tied with Fluminense). From 1972 through 2001, in particular, at least one of both teams featured in every state league final phase, with 11 direct confrontations and 17 direct decisive qualifiers. At national league level, both teams cultivate similar unsurpassed figures, with 4 Brazilian titles since 1971, as a controversial 5th title to Flamengo in 1987 was denied by CBF. Fierce field rivalry also extended to international level where Flamengo boasts one Intercontinental Cup title whereas Vasco was once runner-up in 1998 and later on again in 2000 at the 1st World Club championship. Both teams won once the Libertadores Cup and Mercosul Cup. Runner-up statistics are also part of the rivalry as seen as shameful and hinting a lack of fighting spirit ("raça", i.e. literally race). Since 2002, both clubs seem to confirm their seemingly-atavic rivalry by simultaneously displaying poor performances and struggling to avoid relegation to Brazilian second division. They also compete at high level on other sports such as rowing (their original sport as both were founded "clube de regatas" - rowing regatte club - in 1895 and 1898 respectively, hence the coveted title of "earth and sea"), basketball, swimming, futsal or judo.
Internazionale vs Juventus
Main article: Derby d'Italia
The Derby d'Italia is a bi-annual football fixture in italian football between Internazionale and Juventus. It is unique in Italian Football due to the fact that the derby has been an ever present fixture in Serie A and is the only match which has been ever present in Serie A. It is considered the most important derby in Italian Football, although the Derby della Madonnina (Milan Derby) is sometimes seen as more prestigious, while the Rome derby is seen as the most hotly contested derby.
Liverpool vs Manchester United
The two most successful clubs in English football, Liverpool and Manchester United, have a long standing rivalry, so much so that no player has been transferred between the two since Phil Chisnall moved from United to Liverpool in 1964. The rivalry has its roots in inter-city animosity between Liverpool and Manchester and the historical success both teams have enjoyed throughout the decades. Both teams also have big city rivals in Everton and Manchester City respectively, but the inter-city contest arguably outranks both of these. Fierce to the end Man Utd and Liverpool respect each other but hate each other.
Peñarol vs. Nacional (H) (H)
One of football's classic derbies, the Uruguayan súperclásico is the confrontation between the two greatest teams of Montevideo, Peñarol and Nacional. The rivalry is an important component of Uruguayan culture, and the country is paralyzed every time the clubs meet each other. They both play this derby as home teams at the legendary Centenario Stadium in Montevideo, so the venue never changes for this match no matter who acts as the "home" team. Nacional's and Peñarol's stadiums are no bigger than 20,000 so this huge popular game can't be played in these places. The most popular is Peñarol, whose supporters historically represents the immigrants (as the club was founded by English railway workers).Nacional represents, as the name says, the nationalists ones. Also there's a connection with average Nacional supporters being part of the high class, and Peñarol fans as part of the mid-working class. As of the footballing style, average Nacional teams through history had been emparented with a more "Brazilian" way of playing, and Peñarol with a more classic uruguayan style, even with some few argentine elements. "
CapaJr 20-08-2006, 12:53:PM Gala-Fener definitely
the city stops breathing every time they play, more than 10.000 police officers are deployed and the whole country watches the game :)
As a gala fan, its more important for my team to always win against Fenerbahce, than to win champions league, to be honest if i need to choose between them, i would choose to beat Fenerbahce something like 5 times in a row. :)
you can see how big this derby by the statistics=
http://www.footballderbies.com/
Bonzi 20-08-2006, 01:19:PM Hibs - Hearts
adobe_sun 20-08-2006, 01:29:PM In Bulgaria, the most thrilling derby is definitely Levski VS CSKA. Not only because of it's history, but also because of the whole atmosphere surrounding the game. there are usually lots of fighting between fans, wich is a s***, because there are often injured people, because of some drunk/high/etc fans, that go to the stadium in order to commit violence.
But i guess it's not as horrible as it is in Argentina, surrounding the whole Boca- River thing.. :rolleyes: :wootman:
btw, in the link about derbys, that CapaJr posted, Levski-CSKA is really high on the spot, place 16 or something.
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 02:13:PM http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0203/fbgs/05.jpg
http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0203/fbgs/07.jpg
http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0203/fbgs/06.jpg
Of course Fenerbahçe-Galatasaray...
İt cant be told, it must be lived...
Num Lock 20-08-2006, 03:00:PM PSG - l'OM
this is the one rivalry that we live for, no matter where we are on the table this is the game we want to win at all cost, if we end up 9th in the table like last league but we managed to beat l'OM twice we're happy
Bonzi 20-08-2006, 03:22:PM you can see how big this derby by the statistics=
http://www.footballderbies.com/
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7075/derbyws7.jpg
:fool:
adialex 20-08-2006, 03:23:PM I like that in Turkey the torches are not restricted, it creates an amazing atmosphere .
diroix 20-08-2006, 03:26:PM Look at this video..From Galatasaray-Fenerbahce match..It's Ali Sami Yen hell..It was the best flare show all over the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvGPm40Al8
http://raptiye.org/resimler/skor.jpg
;) ;)
Deisler 20-08-2006, 03:30:PM 6-0 beats 5-1 by 2 goals
National Team level
Holland - Germany
England - Argentina
Argentina - Brazil
Italy - Germany
Shindig 20-08-2006, 03:31:PM No offence, but that makes you look like a load of twats.
Bonzi 20-08-2006, 03:34:PM Look at this video..From Galatasaray-Fenerbahce match..It's Ali Sami Yen hell..It was the best flare show all over the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvGPm40Al8
http://raptiye.org/resimler/skor.jpg
;) ;)
yeah... the atmosphere in there is something special... and it's twice nicely to win on this stadium: Galatasary - Lokomotiv 1:2 (02/03 CL season, Group H, day 5, 29.10.02) :jap: :ewan:
adialex 20-08-2006, 03:36:PM Look at this video..From Galatasaray-Fenerbahce match..It's Ali Sami Yen hell..It was the best flare show all over the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvGPm40Al8
http://raptiye.org/resimler/skor.jpg
;) ;)
OMG, (H) to bad that in Europe the torches are restricted
diroix 20-08-2006, 03:44:PM OMG, (H) to bad that in Europe the torches are restricted
Flares are restricted in Turkey too..When we do this flare shows Turkish federation fines us with money :)
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 03:52:PM Look at this video..From Galatasaray-Fenerbahce match..It's Ali Sami Yen hell..It was the best flare show all over the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvGPm40Al8
http://raptiye.org/resimler/skor.jpg
;) ;)
Dude, every 6s fan knows the best atmosphere which is in Kadıköy, and you know too:)
If it is not true, lets compare the movies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3bkgTyxAME
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 03:54:PM http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0506/fbgs/08.jpg
http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0506/fbgs/02.jpg
http://arsiv.gencfb.org/resim/0506/fbgs/15.jpg
diroix 20-08-2006, 04:02:PM Where are the flares is that all ?
I don't want to argue with you on this topic dude..
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 04:15:PM Didnt you see the flares?
Watch carefully pls, anyone can argue the atmosphere of Ali samiyen and Kadıköy, because argument of this is absurd you know...
Deisler 20-08-2006, 04:18:PM My God you guys are a mess really. We see the flames we truly do now pls stop thic crap and learn proper english ffs.
adialex 20-08-2006, 04:26:PM the atmosphere was great on both stadiums, I can't tell wich one was the best
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 04:28:PM My God you guys are a mess really. We see the flames we truly do now pls stop thic crap and learn proper english ffs.
Are you the constabulary of this topic?
The title of this topic is "rivalry". And we are talking about that, right?
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 04:37:PM OMG, (H) to bad that in Europe the torches are restricted
The torches are restricted in Turkey for 2 years. But this wednesday, we will
contravene the rules in the match between Dynamo Kiev and Fenerbahce. At least we have a plan like this.
Dan the monkey 20-08-2006, 04:39:PM Look at this video..From Galatasaray-Fenerbahce match..It's Ali Sami Yen hell..It was the best flare show all over the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvGPm40Al8
http://raptiye.org/resimler/skor.jpg
;) ;)
And what? Pretty lights don't create a good atmosphere, was the game abandoned?
Deisler 20-08-2006, 04:41:PM Right but you are forcing that title to be "Turkish Rivalries". we heard you doll we heard you. your rivalry is pretty juiced up but that should be it. i mean let others post their thoughs and chill bro.
'constabulary'
WTF is that man?
adialex 20-08-2006, 04:43:PM The torches are restricted in Turkey for 2 years. But this wednesday, we will
contravene the rules in the match between Dynamo Kiev and Fenerbahce. At least we have a plan like this.
lol =)) If you qualify further don't you think your stadium will be suspended?
Dan the monkey 20-08-2006, 04:47:PM Right but you are forcing that title to be "Turkish Rivalries". we heard you doll we heard you. your rivalry is pretty juiced up but that should be it. i mean let others post their thoughs and chill bro.
'constabulary'
WTF is that man?
Maybe, Constabulary = Constable = Police = Moderator? :confused:
Who knows? (:/)
Deisler 20-08-2006, 04:47:PM lol =)) If you qualify further don't you think your stadium will be suspended?
Like they care. It's not about the game of soccer with them apparently it is a little bit different.
Ottoman 20-08-2006, 05:02:PM Right but you are forcing that title to be "Turkish Rivalries". we heard you doll we heard you. your rivalry is pretty juiced up but that should be it. i mean let others post their thoughs and chill bro.
'constabulary'
WTF is that man?
CONSTABULARY:
1. Of or pertaining to constables; consisting of constables.
2. The collective body of constables in any town, district, or country.
3. the force of policemen and officers; "the law came looking for him".
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Bro,i understand that you know english very well, you are great, you are the best member in this forum...
What do u expect?
I am just trying to explain my thoughs all out.Cant you be more tolerant?
Besides,
cant other people post their messages while we are sending our posts?
Pontiakos 20-08-2006, 05:34:PM OK Flares are nothing special in Greece we have them at every game and 10x more than anywere else here are some examples...
and 10,000 police happens at every game with the following teams.
Olympiakos - Pana
AEk-Olympiakos
PAOK-Aris
PAOK-Iraklis
Aris-Iraklis
AEK-Pana
PAOK-Olympiakos
Panathinaikos-Olympiakos
http://img124.echo.cx/img124/9714/tispoutanas9sw.jpg
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/NewSport/OlympiakosFans.jpg
PAOk
http://www.paokneapoli.com/fwtografies/entos/entos_xan/d_entos_xan/images/1999paok_aek_JPG.jpg
AEK
http://www.geocities.com/original21alexpoli/aekbarca8.jpg
Anyway the greatest rivalry is...by far....
River Plate- Boca Juniors. enough said. Turkey, Greece, England, Spain, Portugal, Germany......you name it....it doesn't compare.
Ny8La8 21-08-2006, 12:46:AM It's not about the game of soccer with them apparently
False.
Klobb 21-08-2006, 01:43:AM http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Jerry-Seinfeld-Dad-Again-2.jpg vs. http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/newman.jpg
brilliant.
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