Attackers

Crespo
Batistuta


Shevchenko
Rivaldo


Ronaldo
van Nistelrooy


Elber
Kluivert


Attacking Midfielders

Giggs
Beckham


Veron
Riquelme


Zidane
Figo


Overmars
Scholl

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg
Lizerazu


Mendieta
Davids


Viera
Keane


Emerson
Helguera

Defenders

Stam
Kuffour


Desailly
Cannavaro


Nesta
Campbell


Hierro
Maldini

Everyone vote for ONE of the players in each matchup, then we will go on to round two pairing up the winners.

[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: Nimreitz ]

Crespo
Shevchenko
van Nistelrooy
Elber

Giggs
Veron
Zidane
Scholl

Lizerazu
Mendieta
Viera
Emerson

Kuffour
Cannavaro
Nesta
Maldini

the first player to 10 in each matchup wins, so everyone, vote for each matchup.

Bati (duh!!! Crespo is no where close IMHO)
Sheva
Ronaldo (tough one)
Kluivert

Becks
Veron
Zizou
Scholl

Effenberg
Davids
Keano
Emerson

Stam
Canna
Nesta
Maldini (like anyone else comes close!)

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>Attackers

Crespo
Batistuta*****


Shevchenko
Rivaldo*****


Ronaldo*****
van Nistelrooy


Elber
Kluivert*****


Attacking Midfielders

Giggs
Beckham*****


Veron
Riquelme*****


Zidane*****
Figo


Overmars*****
Scholl

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg
Lizerazu*****


Mendieta
Davids*****


Viera*****
Keane


Emerson*****
Helguera

Defenders

Stam
Kuffour*****


Desailly*****
Cannavaro


Nesta*****
Campbell


Hierro*****
Maldini

Everyone vote for ONE of the players in each matchup, then we will go on to round two pairing up the winners.

[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: Nimreitz ]</STRONG>


Where is Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Denilson, Juninho, Thuram, Raul, Del Piero, Ronaldinho, among others

And what happened to the GK? :rolleyes:

Hmm, limme think:
Crespo
Rivaldo
van Nisterloy
Kluivert


Beckham
Veron
Zidane
Overmars


Lizarazu
Mendieta
Keane
Helguerra


Stam
Cannavaro
Campbell
Hierro

Originally posted by your_worst_night_mare:
<STRONG>


Where is Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Denilson, Juninho, Thuram, Raul, Del Piero, Ronaldinho, among others

And what happened to the GK? :rolleyes:</STRONG>
Yeah, especially R.Carlos and Raul?
Giggs is no way better then Beckham, if he would be better, then he would take both corners and all the freekicks, but instead Beckham did and he did a pretty good job on it. Giggs can only dribble and heading a little bit better then Beckham, but all other things, Beckham is better.

Originally posted by your_worst_night_mare:
<STRONG>


Where is Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Denilson, Juninho, Thuram, Raul, Del Piero, Ronaldinho, among others

And what happened to the GK? :rolleyes:</STRONG>

Ok if you really want me to shoot down those, then fine I will. How many wingbacks do you see? None. Carlos and Thuram are in that category. Cafu is too old now, Denilson hasn't done anything since WC 98, Juninho is at Middelsboro I think, Del Piero doesn't belong anywhere near the list, and Ronaldinho is still young and hasn't shown his skill a major level(same reason Saviola isn't on)

Raul probably SHOULD be on the list, but who would you replace?

There are no Goalkeepers because this is like the NCAA backetball tourney. There are only 4 groups, and the winner from each group goes to the Final Four.

Originally posted by whoever i am:
<STRONG>
Giggs is no way better then Beckham, if he would be better, then he would take both corners and all the freekicks, but instead Beckham did and he did a pretty good job on it. Giggs can only dribble and heading a little bit better then Beckham, but all other things, Beckham is better.</STRONG>


Set pieces don't mean anything. And I can say the same thing for Becks, all he does is run and cross.

Crespo
Shevchenko
Ronaldo
Elber

Beckham
Riquelme
Zidane
Scholl

Lizerazu
Mendieta
Viera
Helguera

Kuffour
Cannavaro
Nesta
Hierro

------

Where is Raul? Where is Roberto Carlos? Where is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink? Where is Thuram? Cafu? Ronaldinho? Nakata? The list goes on...

LEDLEY KING!!! :D

Results thus far

Attackers

Crespo 3
Batistuta 2


Shevchenko 3
Rivaldo 2


Ronaldo 3
van Nistelrooy 2


Elber 2
Kluivert 3


Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 1
Beckham 4


Veron 3
Riquelme 2


Zidane 5
Figo 0


Overmars 2
Scholl 3

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg 1
Lizerazu 4


Mendieta 3
Davids 2


Viera 3
Keane 2


Emerson 3
Helguera 2

Defenders

Stam 2
Kuffour 3


Desailly 1
Cannavaro 4


Nesta 4
Campbell 1


Hierro 3
Maldini 2

Still a lot of time left so anyone can win (except Figo, he's done).

Watch out for Hierro!!!

Crespo
Rivaldo
van Nistelrooy
Kluivert


Giggs
Riquelme
Zidane
Overmars


Effenberg
Mendieta
Viera
Helguera


Stam
Cannavaro
Nesta
Hierro

Crespo
Rivaldo
van Nistelrooy
Kluivert

Giggs
Veron
Figo
Overmars

Effenberg
Davids
Viera
Helguera

Stam
Desailly
Nesta
Maldini

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: van Nistelrooy ]

booooringgg .........
this topic has been done and done again
everybody has their own opinion
so leave it out :o

Originally posted by ShearerM4:
<STRONG>booooringgg .........
this topic has been done and done again
everybody has their own opinion
so leave it out :o</STRONG>

What are you talking about? There have been topics with two players, and dream teams, but nothing like this. Why don't you just vote, it takes one minute.

Results thus far
Attackers

Crespo 5
Batistuta 2


Shevchenko 3
Rivaldo 4


Ronaldo 3
van Nistelrooy 4


Elber 2
Kluivert 5


Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 2
Beckham 5


Veron 4
Riquelme 3


Zidane 6
Figo 1


Overmars 3
Scholl 4

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg 3
Lizerazu 4


Mendieta 4
Davids 3


Viera 5
Keane 2


Emerson 3
Helguera 4

Defenders

Stam 4
Kuffour 3


Desailly 2
Cannavaro 5


Nesta 6
Campbell 1


Hierro 4
Maldini 3

I really like that Maldini Hierro matchup, it should come right down to the end.

Personally, I think that most of the names are repeated not because people find those players to be the best in the world, but because they're so blinded by TV and publicity that they are made to believe that.

There are plenty of bad players in Top Teams and also the other way round. Remember that the cost doesn't make a player better or worse.

Bye.

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>

Ok if you really want me to shoot down those, then fine I will. How many wingbacks do you see? None. Carlos and Thuram are in that category. Cafu is too old now, Denilson hasn't done anything since WC 98, Juninho is at Middelsboro I think, Del Piero doesn't belong anywhere near the list, and Ronaldinho is still young and hasn't shown his skill a major level(same reason Saviola isn't on)

Raul probably SHOULD be on the list, but who would you replace?

There are no Goalkeepers because this is like the NCAA backetball tourney. There are only 4 groups, and the winner from each group goes to the Final Four.</STRONG>


How many winbacks, huh? Well Bixente Lizarazu is one of them, however you have didn't exclude him like Roberto Carlos

Cafu, too old, huh? What is Stam, Emerson and Batistuta doing there then?

Denilson, hasn't done anything, cozz he is playing for a cheap team who was last season in the second division of Spain.

Juninho Paulista, think again, he is playing for Vasco Da Gama

Del Piero, if he wasn't that good he probably would be playin' for another team cheaper than Juventus.

Ronaldinho Gaucho, you probably don't have an idea where is he playing, like Juninho Paulista. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by your_worst_night_mare:
<STRONG>


How many winbacks, huh? Well Bixente Lizarazu is one of them, however you have didn't exclude him like Roberto Carlos

Cafu, too old, huh? What is Stam, Emerson and Batistuta doing there then?

Denilson, hasn't done anything, cozz he is playing for a cheap team who was last season in the second division of Spain.

Juninho Paulista, think again, he is playing for Vasco Da Gama

Del Piero, if he wasn't that good he probably would be playin' for another team cheaper than Juventus.

Ronaldinho Gaucho, you probably don't have an idea where is he playing, like Juninho Paulista. :rolleyes:</STRONG>

Lizerauzu doesn't play wingback really, he is more like a winger that covers the entire field, he is a DML, Carlos is a DL.

Cafu is waaaaaay past his prime. Emerson made a huge move to Roma last year, and Stam is playing the best football of his life.

I love Denilson, but having not made a mark on the football world, he doesn't deserve to be on this list.

Juninho was playing for Boro and Atletico Madrid (Divison 2 team), but I'm sorry, he must have made a huge $50,000 move to Vasco :rolleyes:

Del Piero SHOULDN'T be playing for Juve. Ask any Italian that.

And finally Ronaldinho. So you assume I don't know anything about him. Real nice. Why don't you include Alex? He made his European move a year before Ronaldinho, and is at a better club. He also did a better job with his club in Brazil than Ronaldinho. I don't know about Ronaldinho huh? 20/21 years old, has been playing for Gremio most of his career, but early this year PSG came in with a bid for him, that he would move there after his contract expired. Gremio felt this was wrong and kept him in their team, and sent an appeal to FIFA. Recently FIFA said that PSG (Paris Saint Germain, the same team with Anelka, Okocha, and Christian) legally were entitled to have Ronaldinho. He now plays in france for PSG. But like I said, HE HASN'T MADE ANY MARK ON THE FOOTBALLING WORLD!!!!

Crespo 5
Shevchenko 3
Ronaldo 3
Kluivert 5

Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 2
Riquelme 3
Figo 1
Overmars 3


Defensive Midfielders

Lizerazu 4
Davids 3
Viera 5
Emerson 3


Defenders

Kuffour 3
Cannavaro 5
Nesta 6
Maldini 3


a couple of thoughts -- isn't Rivaldo an AM? And why is it so many Bayern Munich players here? :rolleyes:

oh, and sorry for the numbers near the players -- forgot to erase them. they don't mean anything, just count the votes.

Batistuta
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Kluivert

Beckham
Veron
Zidane
Overmars

Effenberg(cos lizarazu isnt a ****in defensive midfelder)
Mendieta
Vieria
Helguera

Stam
Desaily
Nesta
Maldini

Don't the goalkeepers belong in these lists? Remember the goalkeeper is the most important part of the squad. Where is Ollie Kahn , Fabien Barthez and co.? I'd still say Peter Schmeichel is one of the world's best. Same goes for Sami Hyypiä in defence you're not chosen into the CNN/World Soccer/Kicker/Goal all-star teams for nothing!!

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: Jari Litmanen ]

Results thus far

Attackers

Crespo 6
Batistuta 3

Shevchenko 4
Rivaldo 5

Ronaldo 5
van Nistelrooy 4

Elber 2
Kluivert 7

Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 3
Beckham 6

Veron 5
Riquelme 4

Zidane 7
Figo 2

Overmars 5
Scholl 4

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg 4
Lizerazu 5

Mendieta 5
Davids 4

Viera 7
Keane 2

Emerson 4
Helguera 5

Defenders

Stam 5
Kuffour 4

Desailly 3
Cannavaro 6

Nesta 8
Campbell 1

Hierro 4
Maldini 5

About Riquelme. I haven't heard about him yet. Where does he play at this moment? What's his nationality? How old is he?

Batistuta
Rivaldo

Ronaldo
Kluivert

Giggs
Veron

Zidane
Overmars

Effenberg
Davids

Viera
Emerson

Stam
Cannavaro

Campbell
Maldini

My 2 cents.....

Originally posted by van Nistelrooy:
<STRONG>About Riquelme. I haven't heard about him yet. Where does he play at this moment? What's his nationality? How old is he?</STRONG>

Juan Roman Riquelme is right now the best player playing in the Americas. He is the playmaker, AM, for Boca Juniors in Argentina and has led them to back to back Copa Liberatadores titles. He is 22 years old, Argentinian, and is constantly linked with Barcelona, but most recently has been linked with AC Milan in Italy.

Batistuta
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Elber

Giggs
Riquelme
Figo
Scholl

Effenberg
Davids
Vieira
Emerson

Kuffour
Cannavaro
Nesta
Maldini

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>

Juan Roman Riquelme is right now the best player playing in the Americas. He is the playmaker, AM, for Boca Juniors in Argentina and has led them to back to back Copa Liberatadores titles. He is 22 years old, Argentinian, and is constantly linked with Barcelona, but most recently has been linked with AC Milan in Italy.</STRONG>

Riquelme is world class. Amazing. One of the best AMs in the world.

Still young and I'd love to see him at Barca (even thought I hate them) with Saviola. That partnership would be "wicked."

He'll come to WHL though because he wants to play with Andriy Shevchenko and Dean Richards.
:D

Results thus far

Attackers

Crespo 6
Batistuta 5

Shevchenko 4
Rivaldo 7

Ronaldo 7
van Nistelrooy 4

Elber 3
Kluivert 8

Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 5
Beckham 6

Veron 6
Riquelme 5

Zidane 8
Figo 3

Overmars 6
Scholl 5

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg 6
Lizerazu 5

Mendieta 5
Davids 6

Viera 9
Keane 2

Emerson 6
Helguera 5

Defenders

Stam 6
Kuffour 5

Desailly 3
Cannavaro 8

Nesta 9
Campbell 2

Hierro 4
Maldini 7

Nimreitz: Is Rivaldo an attacker? I thought he was an attacking midfielder.


and why is it so many Bayern Munich players are here? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by the -Russian Rocket-:
<STRONG>Nimreitz: Is Rivaldo an attacker? I thought he was an attacking midfielder.


and why is it so many Bayern Munich players are here? :rolleyes:</STRONG>

Rivaldo plays striker a lot for Barca and the Brazilian national team.

And Bayern players are there because they are part of the best team in the world. No one asks why there are so many Man United players, even though there are more of them than Bayern players.

Batistuta
Rivaldo
Van Nistelrooy (till Ronaldo regains form)
Elber

Beckham
Veron
Zidane
Overmars

Lizarazu
Davids
Keane
Emerson

Stam
Cannavaro
Nesta
Maldini

when is the voting done?

Results thus far

Attackers

Crespo 6
Batistuta 6

Shevchenko 4
Rivaldo 8

Ronaldo 7
van Nistelrooy 5

Elber 4
Kluivert 8

Attacking Midfielders

Giggs 5
Beckham 7

Veron 7
Riquelme 5

Zidane 9
Figo 3

Overmars 7
Scholl 5

Defensive Midfielders

Effenberg 6
Lizerazu 6

Mendieta 5
Davids 7

Viera 9
Keane 3

Emerson 7
Helguera 5

Defenders

Stam 7
Kuffour 5

Desailly 3
Cannavaro 9

Nesta 10
Campbell 2

Hierro 4
Maldini 8

The voting for the Nesta vs. Sol Campbell is over and Alessandro Nesta is the first player to advance to the second round. The next round will begin(in the FIFA 2002 Forum) when each matchup has a winner, which is 10 votes.

BORING !!!
No offense, but this kinda topic has been done and done again ...
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/empics/20010826/1946697750.jpg
http://www.multimania.com/shearerm4/corinthian/newcastle/shearernew3.jpg
he's back .........

Well Shearer, I've been here for much longer than you, and I decided to make the end all be all of these topics. And really, there has never been a topic like this of this size.