View Full Version : What changes would you most like to see in FM07?
Sir Calumn 18-09-2006, 07:58:PM Please excuse me if you have already had a discussion like this, I didnt see one but I only had a quick look.
What would you most like to see changed/added to/removed from FM06 in the new FM07?
I personally dont see that any sweeping changes are necessary. I would obviously like to see the return of the wibble/wobble screens, but then I have said that about every CM and FM release since 4, so I cant really see it happening. Not too fussed about an 3D match engine but I do think the 2D engine could be improved and I'd like to see more variety on the text commentary.
Hopefully this FM will be able to get more permissions so we can have more pictures and kits, because that really did improve it in the few leagues they are actually available. I would also like to see more realistic player valuations - some amazing players can win Player of the Year awards and have amazing stats for two seasons yet remain with values of just two - five million, examples being Makoena and Malouda - while others jump about very greatly with seemingly little reason. I also wish player histories would include all the goals and not just those scored in the league, and I think the little teams shouldnt demand such high prices for their players (there is no way £12m offers for the likes of Cavenaghi and Kerzhakov would be turned down in real life). Infact, I think all too many teams demand too high a price for two many players.
I like the introduction of manager contracts, and getting the manager stats working properly, but I still dont think these have enough impact on the game and would like to see them developed further. I would also like to see yet more advancements to the media handling and mind games systems, and actual longterm benefits from cultivating friendships with other managers when it comes to the transfer market, or looking to hire them as AMs.
But yeah, most of all what I am really looking forward to is an up-to-date FM with all the recent transfers and the summers new emerging stars given proper values and stats. FM06 didnt bore me but it being so out of date did frustrate me, so I am very much looking forward to this game.
Azrael 18-09-2006, 08:19:PM All the changes they promised are what I want to see, so, can't really add.
yoyo913 18-09-2006, 10:33:PM I would like to see more dynamic team changes over the years... like if a team gets a new coach the team would have to play more oh his style and get more players of the same nationality... etc.
i am excited about the new proposed changes
Fernandez 19-09-2006, 12:46:PM more media interaction.
NIDOKING 19-09-2006, 03:00:PM As far as I read, smaller teams should not reject millionaries as long as they're not rich. There's a new feature where the chairman can accept any offer without the concern of the manager, so, if the Chairman wants money, but the manager wants to keep the player... well, the answer is that Chairman > Manager :P
And about media interaction, you can chat anytime to anybody according to the blos features. So, it's most likely those two wishes are already granted. Maybe a BETA-tester could confirm this.
Things I'd like to see are "cheats", like the possibility to fix matches, dope players or "cheer" other teams (it's common here some rumours that, for example, River (2nd) will pay X quantity of money if Y team defeats the current leader. Of course there's no way a team should need "cheer money" to defeat any team, it happens IRL as a way of ¿boosting morale? I guess) with the consecuences it may have if you're discovered!
Also, some "fans interaction", at least the possibility of the "hooligans" to end a match if the team is losing heavily, or to throw things to referees if they consider he's ******* your team. Though sad, violence it's becoming each day more familiar and there are many points deducted to teams because of this. Other things about points deduction would be if you go into administration, or if you go bankrupt, it would be wonderful if the chairman could ask the FA to drop the team one or two categories below.
Well, those would be added I guess.
Dreath 19-09-2006, 06:20:PM Paying off loans, more financial interaction. Make the game a bit deeper.
Sir Calumn 19-09-2006, 07:11:PM It seems like the common trend is for more interation - with media, staff, everyone :p I agree that this is perhaps the one most major area in which the game could be more realistic.
I think it would be good if there was some kind of verbal negotiation when negotiating transfers offers and offering contracts - promises to play players more, or allow them to move on, or promise you will give them larger wages later on. I know you can do this to an extent by using the clauses, but it never seems to have much effect.
Seán D 19-09-2006, 09:54:PM Corruption would be a nice addition. And a return of players hitting refs or spitting at refs would be nice.
Siawash 19-09-2006, 11:21:PM Corruption would be a nice addition. And a return of players hitting refs or spitting at refs would be nice.
Haha, would love to see that. (H)
TOON ARMY 19-09-2006, 11:36:PM Internal club politics. Greater interaction with the board. Chairmens like Vladimir Romanov who try and dictate the playing side, etc.
Kibe Kru 20-09-2006, 12:00:AM Yup, more interaction with board would be good. Doping and fixing would be bad imo. Also, no 3D.
Lastly and most importantly. Bring the magic of CM01/02 (or even CM97/98) back. I have no idea how, just do it! (H)
Socrates 20-09-2006, 03:48:AM Yup, more interaction with board would be good. Doping and fixing would be bad imo. Also, no 3D.
Lastly and most importantly. Bring the magic of CM01/02 (or even CM97/98) back. I have no idea how, just do it! (H)
Agree, I wonder if they will go 3D with the game. I am fine with the way it is right now ( hell we us to have only text (H) ) and no way could my computer handle that. Not to mention how buggy 3D games look ( even PES/WE ).
Anyway, like most of you said. More interactions with the board, players, staff, and etc. Yea the usual stuff.
Filipower 20-09-2006, 02:41:PM yeah, definitely NO 3D.
and i follow the "more interaction" bandwagon too, making the game deeper(i know it envolves bigger, but i can handle disk space)..
PaPaGeorGeo 20-09-2006, 03:12:PM Why no 3D? if someone could come up with an engine good enough to do it why wouldnt you want it.
Although Id prefer them to work the gameplay stuff like i think all of you guys do before the graphics side of the game.
Id like to have the option of tapping up players at risk.
I think the regen system needs tweaking as well, Players there needs to be more superstars from leagues that you dont have selected.
More Options at half-time and full-time talks and better media interaction
sorry about the unorganised sprall and bad grammar
Seán D 20-09-2006, 03:15:PM I think they re-vamped the regen players this year, and just using youth players. Some years you get lucky, some years you don't. Depends on the capabilities of your Youth Academy and Training Facilities.
Sir Calumn 20-09-2006, 04:11:PM Why no 3D? if someone could come up with an engine good enough to do it why wouldnt you want it. Lots of reasons. Mainly because it just isnt a necessary feature for a management game. Also because there is no way they would get it right first time, it would probably slow the game up and mean you could play less leagues at the same speed, it would get annoying after the initial gloss and, if SI did go for it, they would be so proud of it that that would be all they would run with on the new game to the deterement of the other more important, non superficial additions that we would all rather see.
I like what you said about teamtalks though - good idea to introduce it in 06 but it's something that needs alot more depth.
Kibe Kru 20-09-2006, 04:19:PM Why no 3D? if someone could come up with an engine good enough to do it why wouldnt you want it.
It'd have to be something out of this world to do it. Personally, I don't think it's possible at the moment. I do believe it's good enough as it is.
I see no problem with a ball going over a small circle with the number 1 inside, and the game telling me it was a lob into the net. I would have problems with a 3D engine in which I saw the same play where the ball went through the keeper's arms and it could be easily caught. Even more if the keeper was Buffon.
A FIFA/PES like cam wouldn't be good enough, as it focus attention on the ball, and we can't see the tactics, which are so important in FM. Even if it was possible to have an action game style camera covering the entire field, I guess the processing power needed would rule out most PCs out there.
Fernandez 20-09-2006, 04:25:PM I hope there are more loan options (clauses such as minimum games required, exchange another player on loan etc.) and transfer options as well.
Filipower 20-09-2006, 05:23:PM i was about to post that instead of putting a 3D engine, they should improve the 2D in some aspects, when i came across this pearl at the FM Blog:
5. The first, and perhaps one of the smallest elements to be added to this version of the game is one you'll only notice when you least expect it. Playing with the 2d engine, team struggling to break down the opposition...and what's that? Your attention is drawn away to..the subs..warming up?!! Small and insignificant, yes - brilliant... damn right!
aaaw man it's this kinds of little details that make it all worthwhile(H)
yoyo913 20-09-2006, 06:23:PM they could still keep the 2d view but change the llittle circles to little men and then be able to see them kick/head and see how their body is position... i think it would show the difference in skill more between one good player and a bad one.
monkeyhappy 20-09-2006, 07:08:PM i think if they could make a HUUUUUGGGEEE database of goals (real goals) from different angles and situations and then when someone scores it would pick one out that is the most similar and use that as the replay.... however something like that would most likely look very crap! :nape:
i would like to see aftermatch 3d hi :ewan: -lights.. and the typical small changes in every version are welcome as always
Siawash 20-09-2006, 11:31:PM You know what PISSES me of....time f*cking-wasting!!1 :kader: :nape: :|
yoyo913 21-09-2006, 02:36:AM i think if they could make a HUUUUUGGGEEE database of goals (real goals) from different angles and situations and then when someone scores it would pick one out that is the most similar and use that as the replay.... however something like that would most likely look very crap! :nape:
I don't know if this is what you mean but I would like to see more variations of goals. Different team manuevers and types of goals, because after seeing many many goals in FM06 I can say that alot of them are the same.
Aarfy Aardvark 21-09-2006, 12:19:PM Postponed games.
This happened all the time on the old CM games. I mean your club pays 5m for undersoil heating when you haven't had a postponed match in 10 seasons.
Its crazy. I think if you look in England, there is maybe 2 or 3 games postponed per season in the lower-leagues due to weather.
And speaking of weather. I've been to Moscow in November and December, it does not go to 14 degrees celcius on a night. :kader:
Corruption would be a nice addition. And a return of players hitting refs or spitting at refs would be nice.
On the old CM - Sergei Rebrov once got a 60 day global ban for pushing a ref. :)
I think it would be cool if they added long bans like this, for failed drug tests and the like.
But yeah, the ability to tap up players and take an Allardyce bung would be cool. :D
Aarfy Aardvark 21-09-2006, 12:21:PM i was about to post that instead of putting a 3D engine, they should improve the 2D in some aspects, when i came across this pearl at the FM Blog:
aaaw man it's this kinds of little details that make it all worthwhile(H)
I wonder if the subs can injure themselves in the warm-up? (H)
Dreath 21-09-2006, 08:00:PM I wonder if the subs can injure themselves in the warm-up? (H)
That'd be brilliant! Players injured in the the prematch warm up!
adj137 22-09-2006, 10:43:AM i would like to see aftermatch 3d hi :ewan: -lights.. and the typical small changes in every version are welcome as always
(Y) I think thats a good idea, certainly i wouldn't want 3D DURING the actual game - mainly because i think it would be far more difficult to observe the entire pitch and see where the faults are in the team (i.e like the defensive line). It would be good though to have it for post games as a bit of entertainment.
Fernandez 23-09-2006, 10:22:AM That'd be brilliant! Players injured in the the prematch warm up!
Why not add subs getting booked and sent off as well? It'd be brilliant. I remember Ruud getting booked at Fulham while he was a sub.
Filipower 23-09-2006, 08:14:PM maybe even US getting booked...if like you're there's a refereeing error and you start arguing..but i'm way out of my mind, here, am i not?
gamerguy350 23-09-2006, 08:58:PM Yeah, an argue button. You have a 50% chance of changing the ref's mind but if you don't you get sent off. :kader:
PaPaGeorGeo 24-09-2006, 09:56:AM Why would you put that in? The Ref doesnt change his mind in real life because of you
rpvankasteren 24-09-2006, 12:28:PM No, but it does happen that a ref starts whistling more to your favour. Especially with less experienced refs.
yoyo913 24-09-2006, 01:25:PM A thing I noticed in the match engine is that when players are moving forward they rarely pass back, espcially when they are close to goal, they seem to just shoot or pass it to the side, with my current formation I have 2(creative) def mids behind 2 attacking mids so it would be nice if the forwards and attacking mids could pass back more.
proxnet 28-09-2006, 02:18:PM in the 2d match mode you should be allowed to control players.(on the fly tactics)
eg:in the last few minutes of the match when you have a corner you can just choose any player and send him back so as to protect your lead instead of going in the tactics menu and doing it.
Filipower 28-09-2006, 06:23:PM yeah what we're discussing here is basically the ultimate:
gameplay comitting "errors"...know what i mean? like referees and stuff actually comitting 'human' errors...badly taken offsides and such..
PSVFOREVER 28-09-2006, 08:22:PM Referees in Fm already make wrong decision, dont they?
Filipower 28-09-2006, 08:30:PM meh..
PaPaGeorGeo 28-09-2006, 11:36:PM No, but it does happen that a ref starts whistling more to your favour. Especially with less experienced refs.
I think its more the crowd that does that 1 person vs 30000+ have a bit more of an influence.
Trailblazer 03-10-2006, 03:19:PM Agree with pretty much all you guys said.
yoyo913 03-10-2006, 06:11:PM I know FM07 will come out soon but this is what I would love to see in FM08... The option in the tactics menu to save a specific player's (player's not position's) setting in the players tactics screen (attacking, fwd runs...etc.) so then you could easily switch between two players that have different skills. Lets say I rotate between playing Cicinho or Sergio Ramos at RB, I could save both their personal settings in the player instruction skills and when Cicinho plays a game I would save his setting to his strenght.. to attack more, and for Ramos to defend more.
yoyo913 03-10-2006, 06:13:PM Referees in Fm already make wrong decision, dont they?
I think I saw it in the FM07 demo first, I beat chelsea as liverpool and Kuyt scored the only goal from an offside. Mourinho got mad and talked to the press after the game and I choose to comment on it.
pefan 07-10-2006, 08:53:PM As far as I read, smaller teams should not reject millionaries as long as they're not rich. There's a new feature where the chairman can accept any offer without the concern of the manager, so, if the Chairman wants money, but the manager wants to keep the player... well, the answer is that Chairman > Manager :P
And about media interaction, you can chat anytime to anybody according to the blos features. So, it's most likely those two wishes are already granted. Maybe a BETA-tester could confirm this.
Things I'd like to see are "cheats", like the possibility to fix matches, dope players or "cheer" other teams (it's common here some rumours that, for example, River (2nd) will pay X quantity of money if Y team defeats the current leader. Of course there's no way a team should need "cheer money" to defeat any team, it happens IRL as a way of ¿boosting morale? I guess) with the consecuences it may have if you're discovered!
Also, some "fans interaction", at least the possibility of the "hooligans" to end a match if the team is losing heavily, or to throw things to referees if they consider he's ******* your team. Though sad, violence it's becoming each day more familiar and there are many points deducted to teams because of this. Other things about points deduction would be if you go into administration, or if you go bankrupt, it would be wonderful if the chairman could ask the FA to drop the team one or two categories below.
Well, those would be added I guess.
They had fan riots in USM 98 and the club usually got fined. :D
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