View Full Version : Confirmation of next gen.


dumarse
11-10-2006, 05:13:PM
Could someone confirm whether the pc version is "next-gen" or another ps2 port?

tracertong
11-10-2006, 05:31:PM
It appears none of the versions are next gen graphics and that includes the xbox 360 version.

Shindig
11-10-2006, 05:35:PM
PS2 port. The 360 version is the only one which uses newish stuff.

Gaucho-Gaz
11-10-2006, 07:28:PM
Is it confirmed the pc version will be a ps2 port ?

The xbox 360 version has superior a.i., better animations,a slower tempo and obviously better graphics compared to the ps2.

It would be wrong for konami to release a ps2 port for the pc, as this will piss off 99% of their pc customers.

Why the feck should we pc owners put up with an outdated ps2 version. :nape:

ex_tep
11-10-2006, 08:44:PM
not another ps2 port....it still uses DX8 engine omg!

Saltor
11-10-2006, 08:57:PM
They're all waiting for next gen OS, Windows Vista. :rockman:

ANGEL777
11-10-2006, 10:54:PM
It's false..next gen (IS FOR all Platforms) depend of your power of pc /console...as xbox360....(V.Konami official Post in konami site.)
I think Pes6 on Ps3 will better than xbox360 game,so if i have nvidia 7700gt i will have a better pes6 than xbox360...it's a newbie topic.. :D ...

Seabass said:
-Pes6 was programmed on PC station ,old gen was programmed on Ps2 base... :fool:

[mouta]
11-10-2006, 11:05:PM
It's false..next gen (IS FOR all Platforms) depend of your power of pc /console...as xbox360....(V.Konami official Post in konami site.)
I think Pes6 on Ps3 will better than xbox360 game,so if i have nvidia 7700gt i will have a better pes6 than xbox360...it's a newbie topic.. :D ...

Seabass said:
-Pes6 was programmed on PC station ,old gen was programmed on Ps2 base... :fool:


So will we have next gen graphics on PC?

nSkuL
11-10-2006, 11:09:PM
it's quite obvious... xbox360 and ps3 get the nice-graphics-next-gen versions of both fifa07 and pes6, the rest (pc, ps2, xbox, gamecube etc.) get the bad-graphics-current-gen versions. it doesn't matter if you have a super-computer, pc only get current-gen fifa and pes.

cheers!

nSkuL
11-10-2006, 11:12:PM
']So will we have next gen graphics on PC?

of course not...this year pc only gets the bad-graphics-current-gen versions.

SLBenfica glorioso!

plus4s
12-10-2006, 12:27:AM
It really is not such a big deal, we know next years version will be next gen for the pc anyway. How many of you are going to decide well knackers, just for that i am not going to buy it this year ?.
Not many i'll wager,and you know what konami are thinking the exact same thing, because at the end of the day we all will buy it, because it's got the fantastic gameplay we all crave out for.
Think how frustrated you would be if you only had that other football game to play, you know the one with the frustrating gameplay at times, gosh i just can't think of it's name at this moment in time.

Gaucho-Gaz
12-10-2006, 01:55:PM
It really is not such a big deal, we know next years version will be next gen for the pc anyway. How many of you are going to decide well knackers, just for that i am not going to buy it this year ?.
Not many i'll wager,and you know what konami are thinking the exact same thing, because at the end of the day we all will buy it, because it's got the fantastic gameplay we all crave out for.
Think how frustrated you would be if you only had that other football game to play, you know the one with the frustrating gameplay at times, gosh i just can't think of it's name at this moment in time.

It's a big deal for me and I hope it will be big deal for other pc customers as it's about time we take a stand with these old console ports.

The 360 version has superior gameplay, a.i. and played at a slower tempo than the ps2 version.I sure know what version i would like to play on the pc ........

I will not buy the game if the pc version is the ps2 port.

Why should my pc entertain an outdated console game ?

Anyway, I would be really surprised if konami give us the ps2 gameplay this year, it wouldn't bother me if the graphics are similiar to the ps2 version, but if we get the same gameplay as the ps2 then that would be disturbing. :alex:

ANGEL777
12-10-2006, 02:48:PM
The question is:
You have a next gen PC ?
If yes you will have e next gen Pes ,if not you will not pes on your pc :D
So anybody don't ask to himself WHY there isn't images and videos of PC Pes6 ?
The response is simple:
If you buy xbox360 microsoft will control also console world..but we talk about BEST SOCCER game in the wolrd so it's simple think about this quest.
If we see a demo of pes6 on pc anybody don't it would buy on 360 but it's true that anybody would buy a 360 console :D

I hope that I explain good the concept..

ibo
12-10-2006, 09:43:PM
As far as i know.. Pes6 PC will use the same graphics engine as the ps2 version. Only difference is the ability to change the resolution and detail for the PC version.

Just the same like pes5.

ANGEL777
12-10-2006, 10:49:PM
From where do you take this infos ? :D (there isn't no screen,no video of pc v.)
If Pes6 next gen was programmed on pc why it must be have graphics and old version of motion engine ? :D
It's a false info to make money with 360 m.xbox :D :D :D

Elite Waxo
13-10-2006, 03:51:AM
as far as i know...there will be no pes6 por ps3 because its exclusive for 360

deKerf
13-10-2006, 06:29:AM
Ok folks I thought we had already gone through this. The only thing we know about the way the PC version is going to look is that we don't know anything. There are no PC screen shots out there and there are no links with any concrete info. There is only Seabass' statement that development was lead on the PC but this doesn't necessarily mean that the PC will have 360'ish graphics. As usual, Konami doesn't seem to care much about it's PC customers

My guess is that the PC will be on par with the PS2 version except with the ability to ramp the resolution a la PES5. If this is the case then that will suck but I can wait for the next version as long as they fix the problems with PES5 and build on the gameplay.

alou
13-10-2006, 09:04:AM
No next gen version. Even 360 doesn't actually get a next gen version. And a crippled edit mode. And Fifa has no tricks. Life sucks these days.

nSkuL
13-10-2006, 10:50:AM
From where do you take this infos ? :D (there isn't no screen,no video of pc v.)
If Pes6 next gen was programmed on pc why it must be have graphics and old version of motion engine ? :D
It's a false info to make money with 360 m.xbox :D :D :D

wtf??!! do you think that fifa07 for the pc it's the same that fifa07 on the 360?? of course not... but hey, they were both programmed on pc's!!!! just like all games... it's seems that you don't have basic notions on how pc gaming work, you don't get different versions of games just because your pc is better (or worse) equipped. or maybe you're a fanboy...don't know.

cheers!

[mouta]
13-10-2006, 11:52:AM
wtf??!! do you think that fifa07 for the pc it's the same that fifa07 on the 360?? of course not... but hey, they were both programmed on pc's!!!! just like all games... it's seems that you don't have basic notions on how pc gaming work, you don't get different versions of games just because your pc is better (or worse) equipped. or maybe you're a fanboy...don't know.

cheers!

You're wrong, FIFA was not programmed on PC, FIFA is always programmed on PS2 and then ported to PC, sure they need to program on PC but the game is a port, that's why it have the same graphics, programming on PS2 is stopping the evolution of the games.

About PES i think it can be different this year, there's no info and they said they've programmed it first on PC, who knows... might not be as XBOX 360 version but at least not a port from PS2.

TristanAbbott7
13-10-2006, 02:23:PM
Ok folks I thought we had already gone through this. The only thing we know about the way the PC version is going to look is that we don't know anything. There are no PC screen shots out there and there are no links with any concrete info. There is only Seabass' statement that development was lead on the PC but this doesn't necessarily mean that the PC will have 360'ish graphics. As usual, Konami doesn't seem to care much about it's PC customers

My guess is that the PC will be on par with the PS2 version except with the ability to ramp the resolution a la PES5. If this is the case then that will suck but I can wait for the next version as long as they fix the problems with PES5 and build on the gameplay.

Most sensible post on the forum for the last month.

ANGEL777
13-10-2006, 05:58:PM
So You think that Seabass uses his ''Infinity'' Gbyte of RAm to play on xbox360? :D

borjan
13-10-2006, 06:04:PM
ppl ps2 version=pc version

i mean, if is told 100 times that You will be able to play each other (ps2 vs pc), than is loggical that the games will be 100% identical :jambo:

Gaucho-Gaz
13-10-2006, 08:37:PM
ppl ps2 version=pc version
i mean, if is told 100 times that You will be able to play each other (ps2 vs pc), than is loggical that the games will be 100% identical :jambo:

What ?

Pc players can play ps2 players online......... feck me.

IF IT'S TRUE THEN OBVIOUSLY IT FECKING MEANS THE PC VERSION WILL BE A PS2 PORT.....

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE PC VERSION DOESN'T HAVE THE SUPERIOR GAMEPLAY THAT THE XBOX 360 HAS ....

:alex: SHINGO TAKATSUKA

:alex: SEABASS

:alex: KONAMI

THIS IS TAKING THE PISS, THIS IS 2006 AND WE SHOULDN'T BE GETTING A FECKING ANTIQUE CONSOLE PORT

WeVi
13-10-2006, 10:14:PM
ppl ps2 version=pc version

i mean, if is told 100 times that You will be able to play each other (ps2 vs pc), than is loggical that the games will be 100% identical :jambo:
are you sure about this logic? I am not!

Gaucho-Gaz
13-10-2006, 10:18:PM
are you sure about this logic? I am not!

If it is true pc players can play ps2 players online, then you have to come to the assumption that yes, the pc version will be a ps2 port.

We couldn't play ps2 players online if the pc version had the same superior gameplay as the xbox 360 version. :(

ANGEL777
14-10-2006, 06:30:AM
It's False!

"Maybe" Only on Playstation 3 you can play Ps3vsPC with Xfire.
Also why it's impossible play ps2-pc..without a porting/software crossing consolle/pc-
What I ******* post..that i never hear :D :D :D :ewan:

It's a news that Firts Sony Online Game will be Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom to meet playstation and pc players...together

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=10849

rlx
14-10-2006, 11:05:AM
PC graphics = PS2 graphics

Konami webpage
look at the screenshots

http://fr.gs.konami-europe.com/game.do?idGame=144&idGamePlatformInfo=206
http://de.gs.konami-europe.com/game.do?idGame=134&idGamePlatformInfo=198

I only found it in french and german versions...

borjan
14-10-2006, 11:22:AM
It's False!



maybe if you read something more, instead of constantly commercial for your bad website, maybe you could even know something :ewan:

ITS TRUE!

Q: I saw a lot of screenshots of the online mode for the PS2 version and it looks like there are a lot of improvements and new options for the online gameplay. Can you give us the details of the various upgrades to the online mode?

Seabass: I can’t give you all, but I can give you the main topics of the new online mode. We expanded the multiplay much more so if you have four consoles and two players on each console there’s a maximum of eight players for online. Also we decided to have the PC players and the PS2 players play for the first time together online. Those are the two biggest things that we implemented in PES 6.

whole interview here:Seabass interview (http://www.gametv.com.br/user.profile.chain?user.id=16109)

:ewan: :ewan:

ngyc
14-10-2006, 12:08:PM
PC graphics = PS2 graphics

Konami webpage
look at the screenshots

http://fr.gs.konami-europe.com/game.do?idGame=144&idGamePlatformInfo=206
http://de.gs.konami-europe.com/game.do?idGame=134&idGamePlatformInfo=198

I only found it in french and german versions...

look at the crowd in 360 screenshot. ROFL next gen :ewan:

delpinsky
14-10-2006, 01:33:PM
There's no chance to see Next-Gen on PC til 2007. :nape:
Next-Gen is exclusive for XBOX360 for the year 2006. (Seabass said)

Well at least we have to hope the gameplay has been improved at it's best,
considered the PS2 port (hopefully the last one for PC).

What a shame to wait for November 2007 for a game programmed on PC this year.

Gaucho-Gaz
14-10-2006, 02:15:PM
What a shame to wait for November 2007 for a game programmed on PC this year.

It really is a disgrace ............they develop pes6 on the pc, yet the superior version is for the 360 only. Are they purposely trying to lose income from the pc sales this year ?


Q: PS2 was the lead platform for Winning Eleven/PES. It was basically your bread and butter and where you sold millions of copies of games. What do you think your lead platform is going to be in the future?

Seabass: It was a natural flow from our development from PS1 to PS2 and it’s a natural flow to understand that it’s going to be PS3. But with the 360 version in development and its going to be out this fall (in Europe) this natural flow might not be the natural flow in the future.

We still think that the PC, 360, PS3, and Wii considered as next gen, we will not differentiate or create specifically for those. Our goal is to create something in the center and then spread out where the audience is.


Yet again the pc version is undercut.

The online lobby is still that ******* monstrosity of a console gui, and I bet there isn't even a widescreen setting for the pc.

It seem's they are totally inept and stuck in their nice warm comfy shell and since they started development on the pc this year, THEY SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENTIATED THE PC VERSION FROM THE PS2 VERSION THIS YEAR.

I am really disappointed about this and from the videos that i've seen I don't expect anything great from pes6.

Battlefield 2142 anyone .......

ANGEL777
14-10-2006, 04:46:PM
Wow what a next gen.. :D

So Good news or Bad news this is the problem..

At you the response.. :ewan: