http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/741/741107p1.html

So far, not so good. Not surprised. What a downer. My rule is not to buy a game with less than a 8.5 average rating (www.gamerankings.com is great for these ratings) and not to rent games with less than a 8.0. I guess I won't be doing either....hmmmm, nah, I'll rent itat least to look at the graphics, then return it. ::(:

I totally agree with IGN. These were my very thoughts after playing the demo and it seems the full version hasn't improved.

which is why i wen to my wallet and bought PES6 :ewan:

I totally agree with IGN. These were my very thoughts after playing the demo and it seems the full version hasn't improved.

Well then you are agreeing with a person who is clueless about football, what does that make you? I wouldn't be so quick to share this indidual's thoughts, doesn't take long to figure out this game is different and that the reviewer does not have an in depth clue about football, moreso the FIFA series, the review was very weak, hardly any depth, no talk about manage mode etc....

All he kept complaining was that the thru ball doesn't always work with billiant runs by the AI. Well that's a good thing.....HELLO!, just by that statement this guy has no clue about the game. I have played the hell out of the demo because I think it's a great game and I am not leaving my brain home just because some reviewer who has probably never touched a pitch doesn't like the game because in his words:

"EA's football series gets a complete makeover for 360, but would a simple facelift have been a better option?"

"Through-balls aren't quite so easy to pull off, but that's not usually the fault of the player but a problem we encountered with the AI of our team-mates"

"You don't have as much control over the direction of the through-ball either, so even when a run is timed to perfection your pass is often wayward and intercepted by a defender rather than rolling just in front of the feet of your runner. As a result build-up play isn't as satisfying and indeed enjoyable as it is in current-gen FIFA, which seems a bit odd considering EA got it so right on PS2 and the original Xbox."

Need I say more, I quit buying FIFA after 2003, just a really horrible review for hard core soccer fans like us, absolute insult

Need I say more, I quit buying FIFA after 2003, just a really horrible review for hard core soccer fans like us, absolute insult
I more than agree and feel the same way. I just laughed while reading the review. It seems they are pissed about the fact that every other through ball isnt a foolproof one on one goal opportunity like the current-gen versions. :funny:



Although welcome, this new level of realism may put some players off - especially those who favour FIFA's trademark extravagant goals and the generous scorelines that go with them. :rofl:

Well then you are agreeing with a person who is clueless about football, what does that make you? I wouldn't be so quick to share this indidual's thoughts, doesn't take long to figure out this game is different and that the reviewer does not have an in depth clue about football, moreso the FIFA series, the review was very weak, hardly any depth, no talk about manage mode etc....

All he kept complaining was that the thru ball doesn't always work with billiant runs by the AI. Well that's a good thing.....HELLO!, just by that statement this guy has no clue about the game. I have played the hell out of the demo because I think it's a great game and I am not leaving my brain home just because some reviewer who has probably never touched a pitch doesn't like the game because in his words:

"EA's football series gets a complete makeover for 360, but would a simple facelift have been a better option?"

"Through-balls aren't quite so easy to pull off, but that's not usually the fault of the player but a problem we encountered with the AI of our team-mates"

"You don't have as much control over the direction of the through-ball either, so even when a run is timed to perfection your pass is often wayward and intercepted by a defender rather than rolling just in front of the feet of your runner. As a result build-up play isn't as satisfying and indeed enjoyable as it is in current-gen FIFA, which seems a bit odd considering EA got it so right on PS2 and the original Xbox."

Need I say more, I quit buying FIFA after 2003, just a really horrible review for hard core soccer fans like us, absolute insult


i definately agree with u! i used to hate eurogamer.net but know ign.com is the worst reviewers all over the internet.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/741/741107p1.html

So far, not so good. Not surprised. What a downer. My rule is not to buy a game with less than a 8.5 average rating (www.gamerankings.com is great for these ratings) and not to rent games with less than a 8.0. I guess I won't be doing either....hmmmm, nah, I'll rent itat least to look at the graphics, then return it. ::(:

go buy your crappy PES 6 and move on from fifa`s forum

The IGN review is spot on.

The passing is ****, the through balls are ****, the shooting is ****.

The game, is ****.

Why do the players nearly fall backwards when shooting? Why does the ball ping off the foot instead of the player kicking it? WHy do team mates just sit around doing nothing when you are attacking? Why does it always feel like I'm watching my nan trying to pass with her left foot?

The passes have no weight to them, the through ball is a waste of time, and the shooting feels like it did years ago.

I'll be buying a PS2 this week - it's a much much better game on all the other formats. In fact, even the PSP version is better than this piece of crap.

Oh, running with the ball is fantastic though.

The IGN review is spot on.

The passing is ****, the through balls are ****, the shooting is ****.

The game, is ****.

Why do the players nearly fall backwards when shooting? Why does the ball ping off the foot instead of the player kicking it? WHy do team mates just sit around doing nothing when you are attacking? Why does it always feel like I'm watching my nan trying to pass with her left foot?

The passes have no weight to them, the through ball is a waste of time, and the shooting feels like it did years ago.

I'll be buying a PS2 this week - it's a much much better game on all the other formats. In fact, even the PSP version is better than this piece of crap.

Oh, running with the ball is fantastic though.
Exactly. I have more things to ad that I didn't like, but I'd have to play the demo again. I still just might buy the game when it's in the discount corner.

Its not really a surprise that some people thinks less of a (more or less) bad review for their beloved Fifa game. There are quite many bad things about Fifa 07 on the X360 but also some good things - therefore it gets a "normal" 7.6 rating instead of a +9 which some people here will always claim it deserves.

I think the review is spot-on as well.

The IGN review is spot on.

The passing is ****, the through balls are ****, the shooting is ****.

The game, is ****.

Why do the players nearly fall backwards when shooting? Why does the ball ping off the foot instead of the player kicking it? WHy do team mates just sit around doing nothing when you are attacking? Why does it always feel like I'm watching my nan trying to pass with her left foot?

The passes have no weight to them, the through ball is a waste of time, and the shooting feels like it did years ago.

I'll be buying a PS2 this week - it's a much much better game on all the other formats. In fact, even the PSP version is better than this piece of crap.

Oh, running with the ball is fantastic though.

Have you even played the finished product?

No?

Isn't that a surprise.

I've been playing the finished product non-stop since 10 o'clock yesterday morning.

I've been playing the finished product non-stop since 10 o'clock yesterday morning.

I am not talking about if he thinks the game is weak or not, my point is the review is weak and lacking, no mention of stadiums, what about the lighting in the game, the 3d grass, no mention of managing modes eyc...e tc... etc....all he kept talking about were thru balls, it was a useless piece of an article and if it was graded it would have gotten less than what he gave FIFA 07

I am not talking about if he thinks the game is weak or not, my point is the review is weak and lacking, no mention of stadiums, what about the lighting in the game, the 3d grass, no mention of managing modes eyc...e tc... etc....all he kept talking about were thru balls, it was a useless piece of an article and if it was graded it would have gotten less than what he gave FIFA 07

Correct.

go buy your crappy PES 6 and move on from fifa`s forum

I'm not a PES fanboy. Plus, I heard that PES for 360 is bad as well. Heard they cut many corners and didn't improve enough in all areas. All in all, it seems it's a pretty week year for football gaming? I'll check out Fifa for the 360 myself. There's a part of me that still believes in Fifa. Please, Fifa, prove most of the negative reviews wrong.

I'll check out Fifa for the 360 myself.

In fact, I've been thinking of doing the same. I liked the demo, and I've still got Xbox-version of PES5 (which is backwards compatible) so I can play also it with my Xbox 360.

I'm not a PES fanboy. Plus, I heard that PES for 360 is bad as well. Heard they cut many corners and didn't improve enough in all areas. All in all, it seems it's a pretty week year for football gaming? I'll check out Fifa for the 360 myself. There's a part of me that still believes in Fifa. Please, Fifa, prove most of the negative reviews wrong.

sorry then

...am playing retail version of Fifa 07 since yesterday and I am still as impressed as I have been with the Demo in the first place.

At a first glance to me it looks even a bit more difficult to score (especially from crosses) in the full version of the game.

However, the fact that you have an actual learning time to pass in order to get the satisfaction out of this game this time is extremely pleasing to me.

Sure, through balls are more difficult as is scoring from crosses but îsn't this what all were moaning about in the earlier titles ?! ...on top of it it is much more rewarding if they work out eventually !

What remains disappointing is the reduction to six leagues only and also that you can only choose from the same camera views than in the demo... would've expected some more here in the full version anyway...

I played now like 20 games in the Manager Mode (while having played the demo ****loads of times) and I must say, I am really getting into this.... it's the flexibility in editing your formations (i.e. individually every player's position) as well as the fact that when players get match practice and do well you can upgrade them with loads of different attributes that I will surely keep me going for several months still... am just lovin' it !!!

The animations are as spot on as they were in the Demo... surely Fifa 07 on next Gen is still far from what everybody is dreaming of: The perfect football simulation... but this Fifa for me personally will have by far the highest lasting appeal, that is for sure already after a couple of games only 'cos it will take much more practice in order to get your personal gameplay style to perfection, while having far less "same-type" goals in this compared to current gen Fifa titles as well as the Next-Gen games we had so far from EA....

...anyone that fancies an online "battle" ...send me a pn. cheers.

I played now like 20 games in the Manager Mode...
How many seasons are there in Manager mode?

5 seasons in manager mode which I think is pretty fair. I mean, who actually plays 50 seasons? By the time you finish the 5 seasons, the next installment will be out and more likely than not, most people will buy it...unless it's really really bad

5 seasons in manager mode which I think is pretty fair. I mean, who actually plays 50 seasons? By the time you finish the 5 seasons, the next installment will be out and more likely than not, most people will buy it...unless it's really really bad

Don't agree with you... 5 seasons is too little for player development. By the time your player is developed it is game over...

On the other hand, I'm a freak and I play EVERY single game, don't simulate matches... There are people already who completed the manager mode (simulating it). Plenty of gameplay time, but still it is quite bad for player development. There is no option to use the same player in the new season...


Just to add few points...
Game is a LOT harder than the demo... I have to admit that this is the very first time since '98 I'm saying that Fifa is really good. I know it is a cliche statement, but it's true.

Keepers have improved significantly. I had a go at Fifa 07 recently saying that Demo has **** keepers... There are sweet spots that I found and was able to score 4-5 goals on World Class...

Now, I played over 10 games on Semi-Pro and I managed to score ONLY 1 goal...

I tried to shoot from the same spots as in the demo, with same players but it doesn't work anymore... Very very important that this got sorted... Even in the Arena when you shoot from some situations and just knew that it will go in, it doesn't anymore.

I even went back to the demo last night, just to double check whether it was me or they really improved keepers and AI, and I'm glad that it is latter. I again scored 4 goals on World Class in the demo, but I'm still struggling to score in the game.

The gameplay is even more fluid than in the demo. Frame rate is like a dream during the game, it never skips a beat. Rock solid.
The only place where I noticed a bit of framerate issues was in Arena, when you reach closer to the corner line (same as in the demo)... but during the match it's perfect...

I think ball physics got tweaked even more, the ball feels even looser than in the demo, not much, but you'll notice it... Ball bends more than previously for example.

The stadiums look average at times, and absolutely photorealistic at times... Depends from which camera you look at it. It is basically like in the demo, some angles show stadiums a bit blurry, with plenty of jaggies, and some angles are awesome...

Disappointing is that intro scene is extremely short... Just like in the demo... Players shake hands and that's it... There is also a short cut scene with your players celebrating after the game.

Most of the cut scenes have been sorted out, there are no frame rate issues, especially after misses and good chances, but some cut scenes are still with issues, e.g. Yellow card cut scene was jerky...
What also disappointed me is the choice of highlights after the half or after the full time. I had few awesome chances, hitting post and a cross bar, but instead of those, computer showed how I fouled a player in the mid-field etc... Why in the world would you show tackles and fouls in highlights at the first place??? Also, there is only one replay (from one angle of course) of the goals... Again, it is not a major thing but still it would be so nice to have better implementation...

Collision detection is still not as good as it should be. The ball happens to go through the player or body part which should be addressed.

Sound is incredible at times and below par at times. Even when you play at home there is lack of atmoshpere when you score a goal, which has pretty bad effect. I finilly scored in the game (my only goal), it was a volley from the corner, hit the cross bar and went in... I got so excited I jumped out of my chair, but the lack of audience excitement was disappoining... It doesn't happen all the time but randomly.
Also, it happens that the commentary goes ahead of the game, which is in my opinion the wors part of the game.
Martin Tyler does awesome job with commentating at times, sub-par at times but it is absolutely horrendous when a player shoots at my goal and I hear Tyler screaming "it is IN" while the ball still travels towards my goal. It only happened twice so far, so I hope that it is a glitch that will not happen too often.


Lack of leagues and features from current gen doesn't really bother me for the several reasons:
Manager mode is awesome
Lounge is great
Challenges are awesome
There are plenty of Unlockables such as Season highlight reels, balls, boots, classic teams and players, and even one stadium ;)
Achievements are REALLY hard to get, it will definitely take time before I get them...

Plenty of gameplay time before I complete it all...

Loading times are exactly the same as in demo (i.e. almost NON EXISTENT)... I thought first that the demo loads up so quickly because it was from HDD, but no, the final game takes exactly the same time to load :))))


And the best part comes as icing on the cake:

ONLINE is freaking perfect! No kidding! The very first football game that has ZERO lag and plays like you are playing it offline.
Played 5 games last night with 5 different people and it was perfect. And these were not Aussies I played. One guy was from the US and still there was zero lag.
I can't believe it that EA got it right in online department. I'm really and truly amazed how well it plays...
Finding a player is extremely quick... After that, game asks you to check and update your roster and pops you in kit selection menu. After you set formations etc... you are popped back to Arena, while the game loads (< 5 sec) and automatically starts after the game is loaded... after that it is PURE JOY.

The ticker thing is also great implementation. News are fun to read and having a news bar on the bottom all the time you are messing around in the Arena is also awesome...

So much potential for leagues online and Fifa Interactive World Cup on the horizon, it will be awesome :)))


Also I forgot to mention few other bad points:

As much as they have improved AI, it still has issues, serious ones at times...

For example, on World Class, computer was in Counter Attack. It was just my keeper and computer attacker... Computer reached 20m in front of my goal with noone around him and he stopped and passed the ball backwards to a team mate... "what the???"... there are few more I can't recall, but it is just ackward when you see it in otherwise really great game.

Also, it looks ackward that some REALLY powerful shots are cought by the keeper with both hands like it was a practice shot not a match (problem from Fifa 06)...


The bottom line is that this is the best FIFA ever made... no doubt about it... Current gen version is just well short of this game (I have them both). If you are a football fan and love football games, do not miss out on this one. It is FUN and quite realistic... I won't compare it to PES, no need for that. They are both great in their own regard and ONLY by playing both you'll appreciate how lucky we are to have 2 great football games out there...

My nick is my gamertag, so if you are up for a game, count me in ;)

Thanks for the review MIki

You said the current generation is just well short of it --- How much better- gameplay wise is this 360 version- compared to the current generation...some people have said that they can't feel much difference???

20%
50%
100%

thanks

Thanks for the review MIki

You said the current generation is just well short of it --- How much better- gameplay wise is this 360 version- compared to the current generation...some people have said that they can't feel much difference???

20%
50%
100%

thanks

It just plays differently. Hard to put it in %. It is definitely a different game... Things that work in current gen, don't work in 360 and vice versa. 360 is more "random" and unpredictable, less scripted and I'm yet to see two identical goals in Arena, not to say in full match.

360 version is also slower (more real football pace), more fluid with a lot better ball physics and AI, especially the keepers. It is also more strategic rather than action oriented especially at higher difficulty settings, which again suits the real football comparison.

I find the current gen a bit on a easy side, with a bit too repetitive type of goals etc... (keeper usually deflects the ball and it somehow always gets to your player and you score and vice versa for a computer). You can also kind of find the way how to break the defence and it works over and over again. E.g. through balls just go "through" too well... then going down the wing, crossing the ball inside makes it really easy to score after a while. In 360 version it is a lot harder, especially when you turn off passing assistance and put the difficulty setting to Pro or World Class. It is just harder to break the defece, they play a lot deeper defence so you can't do quick counter attacks. You can do these at Semi-Pro, but it really makes huge difference when you bump up difficulty settings.

Also, the difference is in Fatigue effect. Players get tired quickly and in second half some of the players can't even sprint. you have double fatigue bar, one that is long term fatigue which does not recover, while the short term fatigue bar drops quickly but also recovers quickly. So, doing subs is essential... In manager mode this fatigue is compounting so after 2-3 games in a row, your player starts the game tired. Better players handle fatigue better, so even when fully tired I found that Adriano still sprints well, but guys like Grosso were struggling at times.

It is the whole package that makes a difference. Animation and physics make it look like a night and day.

The fact that there are no tricks with the right stick is actually excellent. Now only really skilled players will do context based skills. C.Ronaldo did a dummy yesterday by himself, a stepover and some fancy footwork before I crossed the ball. I saw Phillips doing a backhill pass etc... I find myself stopping a game quite often to see these tricks and skills in slow motion...

In a comparison, current gen allows you to exercise any trick at any time and pretty successfully once you get grasps of it. Both computer and people online over use tricks and it's starts becoming dull that some players are almost unbeatable...
In 360 version you can't perform tricks as you wish, ball is really loose and you can nock it one way or the other, do a quick drop shoulder, send a ball in one direction and run in the other etc... Passing assistance off is essential as well and this is where the game completely differs to current gen. Passing takes time to get used to but unlike the demo, I found that it is more button sensitive so if you just tap the button it will nock the ball just a little in fron, if you hold it it will go further etc...

I was really furious about not having Trick stick at first but now I really feel why EA went this path. After a while you start appreciating why these context based skills are better than skill stick... You know, when EA implemented first touch in Fifa 05 it was awesome because every first touch felt differet and I really enjoyed seeing them... Tricks with the Right stick on the other hand were cool before you see them all and once you master them it becomes just plain repetitive.

Anyways, I disagree that the difference is small between current gen and 360. 360 version feel a lot less "arcadey" than current gen if you can put it that way.

If you have a 360, this is a no brainer... go for it!

I'd give game over 9 out of 10. Gameplay, Graphics, Animation, Phusics, Online and Some unique features are really really great.
Presentation, cameras, highlights, collision detection, audio could have been better but overall do not affect the gameplay...

It really is a great "brick" for EA on which they can build further iterations.

Nice review

Nice review

Thanks mate!

Sorry for the typos and not proper phrasing etc... Can't be bother to write it properly. Just wanted to deliver the good news as quickly as possible :)

Great review Miki23; looking forward to an online match against you once it is released here in the USA.

Nice to know that this really is a step in the right direction :rockman: !

thanks again, I gues I'll be buying a 360...

Great review Miki23; looking forward to an online match against you once it is released here in the USA.

Nice to know that this really is a step in the right direction :rockman: !

Sure buddy anytime :)

It feels more like a jump in the right direction rather than a step ;)

thanx very much for the info miki23!

one little question about the cameras? you said there arent any new angles, but are all the current gen angles in it? (specificly dynamic camera? ) also are there zoom and height adjustment?

thanx very much for the info miki23!

one little question about the cameras? you said there arent any new angles, but are all the current gen angles in it? (specificly dynamic camera? ) also are there zoom and height adjustment?

When I was talking about camera, I was referring to cameras in cut scenes etc... not in game...

In game cameras are identical to those in the demo and no there is no height/zoom adjustment as far as I'm aware... I have to admit that I haven't been really digging into it. I'll check tonight!

Tele cam does it for me!

How did you play against someone from the US it's not out yet here in North America 2 more weeks.

How did you play against someone from the US it's not out yet here in North America 2 more weeks.

Don't know where they got the game from but I spoke to the guy during the match and he was from Pennsylvania.

Miki - lemme ask ya this

Simple question

Am I under duress? Will I feel it? will I scramble to kick it out of play - like PES. Will I feel outplayed and lucky to win a match? Will I go down 2-0 on an off game?
Ya know what I mean ?

Does this AI attack have purpose - does it have teeth?

Miki - lemme ask ya this

Simple question

Am I under duress? Will I feel it? will I scramble to kick it out of play - like PES. Will I feel outplayed and lucky to win a match? Will I go down 2-0 on an off game?
Ya know what I mean ?

Does this AI attack have purpose - does it have teeth?

Wus up Rickyboy ;)

So far I have been struggling with AI on Semi Pro... I tried it on Pro and World Class and got hammered 3:0... It's different to the demo... AI plays deeper defence and it's hard to break them. When losing, AI starts really attacking (pressure) and changes formations and players... When I was leading 1:0 from 15th minute in second half, playing on semi-pro, I spent most of the time on my half defending as AI was furiously attacking... They do make some nice plays and unlike in current gen they do not outplay you using tricks and cheat... but they outplay you with one-two passes, through balls etc... I haven't felt cheated per se as much as before like in WC2006 when AI just decides to score and you can't do anything about it... (Take into consideration that I have a game for only past couple of days and I played around 15 matches so far so maybe I'll find some patterns, cheats etc... later on).
In current gen for example I feel that some passes and moves are so scripted and you do feel cheated most of the time on World Class.
In 360 version sometimes it seems like every single pass is perfect but then out of sudden the ball would hit a player in the leg and bounce of out of play or computer would kick the ball out in the stands etc...There are some really nice little details...
Overall AI is definitely a lot more challenging than in demo.

On the other hand I saw few odd attacks where AI is Counterattacking but they would suddenly stop and pass the ball backwards...

I don't know how it works in the US but here in Aussie we have a 7 day return policy at EB Games, so if you don't like the game you can bring it back within 7 days and get a refund or exchange no questions asked... if that's the case in US then might as well give the game a shot and if you don't like it (doubt it now) you can always take it back.

Cool review Miki, thanks!!

Just 3 questions, what about player editing? Is there some option in the game? i mean, create a player, faces, name, etc....
And, i guess that not, but, Is there national teams??
How many stadiums are in the game?? please, dont tell me 8 like in PES6, please, hehe

Take care

neovico
The Mind

Cool review Miki, thanks!!

Just 3 questions, what about player editing? Is there some option in the game? i mean, create a player, faces, name, etc....
And, i guess that not, but, Is there national teams??
How many stadiums are in the game?? please, dont tell me 8 like in PES6, please, hehe

Take care

neovico
The Mind

-There are national teams (37 of them)...

-There is editing mode (haven't played it with it yet) but know it's in there and from what I've seen in the options you can edit pretty much anything...

-There are 23 stadiums plus one unlockable

Here's the complete list of stadiums http://www.fifa07.ea.com/extra/?id=4313

best review so far! :rockman: thanks for being non-biased and pointing out the good and the bad. too bad us chicagoans have to wait another freaking week for this game!

can you also tell us if Greece is in the game?

:chew: also, can you tell us if the net physics have improved from the demo? they are very buggy and i hope they are as good as the pes net physics in the final version.

I'll check for Greece when I get home (@ work atm). From what I could tell when cycling through the teams, I think all 32 World Cup teams are in + 5 other... Greece might be one of them... I'll post it in about 3 h...

Net physics haven't improved unfortunately, same as in demo... but not sure about bugs (scored only a few goals so far ;), 1 offline and couple online).

Nice review Miki23, im also in ozz dude and waiting to get the retail version, havnt bothered with the demo so this will be the first taste i get of the game.

I have a question about your AI teammates, i read somewhere that they are not good basically, ie, they dont make runs into space, wingers seem lazy, is this true?
Also are Watford in the EPL, id say they are but you will know for sure, thanx Miki23 enjoy the game man.

guys could u list the season that are in this fifa07?(360)
theres the scottish champ?
celtic is in the game?

Very good review, Miki23. Way better than IGN's. :D I'm still wondering if I should buy FIFA 07 or PES6 for Xbox 360. FIFA is leading the race a bit at the moment, but I haven't got so detailed information about PES6 yet, so you never know. On current gen I'd probably buy PES6, but on 360 they both are whole different games compared to their current gen "brothers". I need to make the decision within couple of days, because they both are released at the latest on Friday.

-There are national teams (37 of them)...

-There is editing mode (haven't played it with it yet) but know it's in there and from what I've seen in the options you can edit pretty much anything...

-There are 23 stadiums plus one unlockable

Here's the complete list of stadiums http://www.fifa07.ea.com/extra/?id=4313

Thanks a lot Miki, cya in the LIVE. My tag is neovico

Take care

neovico
The Mind

German Mag Gamepro rated it 83%, just like the current gen version.

I'll be renting them both on friday, can't make up my mind which one to plump for this season, was a FIFA man from megadrive days up until fifa 2004, then went over to pes for 3,4 and 5, and back to Fifa for WC 06 on the 360, it wasn't a bad game, but a fairly big let down online, after reading the major blunder that EA had with Tiger woods 07 online, i won't be to quick to part with another $120aud, for a game that isn't playable online

hey miki23 can i ask u some specifical pics? if u can i would like to see nakamura in japan.(face and phisic)
thnx in advance. :ewan:

Great review Miki. Thanks for taking the time to write all of that. We are all extremely grateful. All in all it sounds like a good game. I also love the fact that you pointed out the cons as well as the pros. Can't wait till it comes out. Look me up on xbox live, my tag is: RMCF ULTRA. Send me a message or something. Peace!

miki get on the editing mode see if ya can change faces and hair on players thanks mate

Miki's a popular bloke! I only have one request for you miki....I heard that you can customize the pitch & stadium to some extent. They didn't get too much into it. Know anything about this? Please forward info at your convenience. Appreciate it very much. Take care.

Miki23: Could you give little more info about Manager Mode? Like is the money still in points like it was in some beta version (according to a preview), or is it in pounds, euros or dollars? Can you still start in smaller club and after you've got some reputation move to a bigger club? Or do you have to play with the same team through the career?

Miki, one last thing. It might seem superficial but...do they include the legit adboards of all the stadiums included? Wondering cause everytime I see footage, I only see the fifa2007 adboards. I hope this isn't the case! Thanks in advance.

I've orderd my copy! Can't wait now!! Seriously I'm playin the demo a lot and it stays fresh and exciting, and everyone so far who has the final copys says the demo doesn't do the full game justice. Cannot wait man.

NK.

I've orderd my copy! Can't wait now!! Seriously I'm playin the demo a lot and it stays fresh and exciting, and everyone so far who has the final copys says the demo doesn't do the full game justice. Cannot wait man.

NK.

prepare to die online :lui:

Miki, I feel sorry for you - you know, with everyone bothering you all the time;)
But I was wondering, are the Referee and the linesmen present in the full game? They weren't in the demo, and I just find it really strange, or indeed unexplainable, that on next-gen, we won't have any officials on pitch, when PES has them even on current-gen... I know it sounds lame and all, not that it will disrupt the brilliant gameplay or keep me from playing the game. But really, am I the only guy who's bothered by this??

Thanks again Mate for an excellent review - You rock!

great review miki

Miki, I feel sorry for you - you know, with everyone bothering you all the time;)
But I was wondering, are the Referee and the linesmen present in the full game? They weren't in the demo, and I just find it really strange, or indeed unexplainable, that on next-gen, we won't have any officials on pitch, when PES has them even on current-gen... I know it sounds lame and all, not that it will disrupt the brilliant gameplay or keep me from playing the game. But really, am I the only guy who's bothered by this??

Thanks again Mate for an excellent review - You rock!

man is the first time i dont care about referies because the game is excelent!

Damn, so many questions... :)))))) cool!
I'll keep it short:


-Greece is in the game for the guys that asked about it...

-Edit mode is superb, except there are not that many options for hair, facial hair, and colour of those etc... but you can edit pretty much anything from nose to ears, mouth, weight, height, boots, kits etc...

-customizing the stadim is limited to choosing the type of the turf and not too sure if there is anything else you can do with it.

-Referees are NOT in the game at all, except during cut scenes when you get yellow/red card etc...

-ad-boards are pretty much the same as in the demo, mainly fifa07.com ones...

-Manager Mode: The currency is POINTS, so no real currencies. It's same as in Fifa 06 last gen... Once you enter your name, you pick your sponsor with goals for that season etc... as in previous versions.

In the main menu you have sliders such as job security, team fatigue, chemistry etc... If you change your formation or put players in the wrong position you can see straight away how it affects your team chemistry + or - from the default. It is very well balanced as hypotetically you would love to have Nesta and Vidic as your CBs as they are both brilliant defenders, but they may not work together that well hence your chemistry will go down... same for attack...

There are news as before that come in with choices whether to let your players rest or do some charity work to build the team spirit at a cost of fatigue etc... so there are some decisions to be made which can alter your performance.

Best part of manager mode are experience points which you earn through your performance on the pitch. You can improve existing players or newly created player's stats by using these Exp points. For example, you can improve Adriano's defensive stats, and they are quite cheap, but to improve his attacking stats you better be ready to fork some Exp points... You can even buy "negative" stats, e.g. which will lower Adriano's defensive stats but give you HEAPS Exp points to be used on other players etc... Very cool feature as it requires some tradeoffs to be made...

The only downside of manager mode is that it is limited to only 5 seasons, and as I said before, by the time you develop your player it's pretty much end of the manager mode... It's just not very realistic that your 18 year old player finishes his career by the age of 23... But nevertheless this is the very best offline feature of the game, really enjoyable...


There's also a lot of stats after the game, you can see pass % and it's path over the pitch, chances, goals, fouls, concentration, player growth etc... There's Man of the match with stats such as goals scored, successfull passes/dribbles (yes even dribbling stat) etc... but it looks like Man of the match is not properly balanced... I scored a hat trick with Figo last night (brilliant match btw, was down 2-0 from FKs, and managed to win 3-2, played on semi-pro) and instead of him being man of the match it was someone else with 100% pass accuracy (3 out of 3) etc... Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that hat trick any day would win hands down...


anyways, back to work now...

For the end, Online Mode is absolutely perfect!!! There is Zero lag... you forget that you are playing it online... it is THAT good.
I played some folks from Switzerland and South Africa last night and it was perfect...

sounds well good but no refs or linesmen so not as realistic as they make out then haha

Hang on a minute, whats this points thing, i read about real money this time in manager mode, have i got it wrong? im sure i read that real money was in use this time.

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ENHANCED MANAGER MODE: Everything is real. Real money, youth player development, press and fan reaction. Immerse yourself completely in the world of a soccer manager. New this year – create your own club.

Woww, man, im going to buy my copy right now in a few hours, i cannot wait more. After test the demo during days (finally im confortable with left analogue stick, and NOW i enjoy), and now with all you explain Miki, is impossible to resist to this game.

There´s a feature that i think that nobody of us had comment (may be im in a mistake and is just commented), so, the ESPN soccernet feature, where you get information about football, a more big section than in current gen, stadistics,news, injury reports, etc..is online and always is updated. I think that with this feature you can organize your macthes as in real life...that´s cool.

To all the guys that had leave the tag here (me included), i will add to my 360 if you have not inconvenience, im sure that will enjoy a lot playing together.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

"ENHANCED MANAGER MODE: Everything is real. Real money, youth player development, press and fan reaction. Immerse yourself completely in the world of a soccer manager. New this year – create your own club."

Probably from current gen FIFA 07, because that has real money in Manager mode. In many places they advertise FIFA 07 for Xbox 360 with almost the same texts as they advertise the CG-version. They usually just add something like "next gen soccer simulation" in the end. ;)

Just bought my copy of the game. I had some skip lessons, so I had time to pick it up, but no time to try it out. :( Right now I'm at school and waiting the school day to end. I hope the game is good. :)

Just one more quick question Miki - is Denmark one of the 37 international squads?

Yep danmark is in the game.

To all the guys that had leave the tag here (me included), i will add to my 360 if you have not inconvenience, im sure that will enjoy a lot playing together.

Take care

neovico
The Mind

Send me a message. Just remember, we don't get it here in NY until Nov. 1

Apart from GAME which high street shops have u guys gone and brought your fifa from???

PROEVOLUTIONN BLAAAAAAA (N)

FIFA NUMBER ONE!!!!! W MILAN!!! :bouncy:

liveitaly,

do you have a mini review of the game? Anything to justify your elation? I hope it's as good as people here are saying. I haven't played FIFA since I was introduced to PES 2 years ago but I still pull for them. I'm not a fanboy of either. I just want to play the best game, period.

I havent played fifa since 2003....I just got pes6 and my bro getting Fifa. I've played the Fifa demo and a lot has changed in 4 years. This is a taster of next gen because look at the graphical improvements. They may not have improved the A.I to next gen level but they showed a lot more effort than Konami in their "next generation game"

I was really amazed at the videos i saw on youtube. My mate who dont even look at Fifa i showed him the vids and hes considering getting both games. I used to play fifa and i aint ruling out a return. Because I'm getting frustrated with playing the same stuff year in year out. Just because Konami know they have a few fan boys in their fan base they feel they can just modify gameplay and release the same thing again!

PES6 on xbox360 i'm a give that a go and give Fifa on xbox 360 a go. I'm definitely a Playstation man. But its good to see the next generation stuff. And see where both games are headed.