View Full Version : At Last!! Scoring!!!!! Sussed!


alw1969
16-12-2006, 03:05:AM
I have finally sussed out the scoring system in PES6 ....

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the left hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the right hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to also put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Approach the goal straight on and press the shoot button and you can be guaranteed to put the ball at least 25 foot over the net.

HOWEVER .... if you have an open goal in front of you and are in the box quickly press the SHOOT button and you will guaranteed to put the ball at least 15 foot over the net.

If you have tried all of the above TRY AGAIN, because in time you WILL score a random and rare goal. Oh Yeah.

Does CONAMI make those golfing games that no one buys??? Maybe the programmer got his codes a bit mixed up. I mean shoot button / drive button could easily be mixed up.

Elkjaer or whatever your name is. Dont reply cos it will be an insult or abusive and why you ain't banned from this site is a mystery ....

anyway......

eofong
16-12-2006, 03:25:AM
u need more training to master this game!! I am one of the great ones. u still need coordination b4 scoring. :boohoo:

samuelbarros
16-12-2006, 10:01:AM
There is a knack to scoring in this game but you tend to only score goals of the type the AI wants you to score or at a time in the match that the AI wants you to score.

If you just create space in front of goal and find yourself with just the keeper to beat, don't bother shooting as the probability of scoring is about 10%. Most shots either fly over the bar, go "just" past the post in "dramatic" fashion, or go straight to the keeper who either catches it or parries it and his parry turns out to be a perfect 80 yard through-ball to a cpu striker at the other end othe pitch. You can try to take it round the keeper but 9 times out of 10 he'll just karate kick your knees and the ref never awards penalties against the cpu for this. Basically, just pass the ball to a team-mate in this situation and try building a new passage of play until you create the "correct" scoring opportunity or wait until the "correct" time.

The best time to score is during the last 5 minutes of either half. The cpu is also more likely to script itself a goal then too, so beware, but the AI is scripted to permit far more shots to become goals during the dying minutes of either half. It makes it "exciting" and after all, this is what happens in "every" football match in the world, isn't it? Well, I assume it must be like this in Japanese football, which is all fixed anyway.

The other thing the game rewards is first time shots from long range, eg. play a pass across the pitch about 25 yards out to a guy who runs on to the ball and hits a first time shot. The game likes first time shots from passes. Not a guaranteed goal, but I score far more this way than from proper scriong opportunites in the box where you have time and space but the AI simply doesn't like you scoring in these situations.

Also, aim to get the bye-line about 12 yards from goal and press the through-ball button to play a pass back across the face of goal. If you have a striker in the vicinity, the ball will often go straight to him for an easy tap in, although it's advisable, if you have time, to simply walk the ball into the net rather than shooting to prevent the "balloon shot goes 25-yards over the bar from 1 yard out" syndrome that graces this realistic game.

Also, when in the box, the old favourite of turning 90 degrees to goal before turning to 45 degrees and shooting still results in a few goals.

So basically, aim for last minute goals, 25 yard first-timers, cut-backs using the through-ball and where possible, walk the ball into the net without pressing shoot. It's just like real life.

jjgadget
16-12-2006, 10:28:AM
alw1969 have you tried using the finesse shot button R2, you pess this button when you shoot and it works very well indeed. :wootman:

Just thought I would mention it just in case you did not know. :)

loz99
16-12-2006, 11:23:AM
omfg its so easy to score mate stop exaggerating, maybe your just sh!t....

Grumpygit
16-12-2006, 11:49:AM
JJGadget is totally right.

I have read with much interest the subject of how to score on this web site and I have to say that it amazes me how many are struggling to score.

I play on top player level, and while it IS hard to score, I AM scoring regularly.

JJ uses the same method as myself and as he says, it works very well. I do,however, still balloon the ball over the bar sometimes but that's football, isn't it?

TAP shoot and R2 at the same time...you might be pleasantly surprised.... :wootman:

rchrd
16-12-2006, 12:30:PM
I have no trouble whatsoever scoring. It took me longer before I was able to move to 6 starsand master league default players on pes5 than on this pes6. I'm already doing leagues with 5000 points and master league default players because its easy to keep clean sheets and sneak a few goals.

Lean
16-12-2006, 04:35:PM
If you're one on one with the keep just do the feint trick (square + X).

BaYa
16-12-2006, 05:03:PM
90% of shots are totally f*cked up, even when you do everything PERFECT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jjgadget
16-12-2006, 05:09:PM
Thanks Grumpy.....its fun and REALISTIC......... I too miss pleanty of shots over the bar or to the left or right. :)
For example take Charlton v Liverpool today(REAL football match), Liverpool won 3:0 but they had 20 shots on goal , very good and clear chances but only managed to hit the back of the net 3 times..........which in my humble opinion means that PES 6 is very realistic and Loads of fun to play and the shooting is very rewarding, thats why I always look forward to playing my next match :wootman:

alw1969 , you just need to practice as much as possible and be very sutble with your button pressing :read: and STOP whining........please. If you take no notice of anyone when they are clearly trying to help ,they will get abit sick and tired of your moaning. :-puke: :sleep:

pogoss
16-12-2006, 07:10:PM
it's very exagerated , maybe you push the button too long or don't even know there is a power bar . you remind me of my father when we tried to play together , he never managed to shoot well .

DryHeat
16-12-2006, 07:54:PM
For example take Charlton v Liverpool today(REAL football match), Liverpool won 3:0 but they had 20 shots on goal , very good and clear chances but only managed to hit the back of the net 3 times..........which in my humble opinion means that PES 6 is very realistic and Loads of fun to play and the shooting is very rewarding, thats why I always look forward to playing my next match :wootman:


But were thay from inside the penalty spot with only goalie to beat, did crouch go for a low powered shot and end up blasting the ball up into the stands with maximum power.

jjgadget
16-12-2006, 08:31:PM
But were thay from inside the penalty spot with only goalie to beat, did crouch go for a low powered shot and end up blasting the ball up into the stands with maximum power.

YES they have been and could be as you described..........If your having problems too mate .............practice :rolleyes:


and anyway It cant be PERFECT can it? Otherwise Konami would never sell another Football game ever.....would they :nape:

loz99
16-12-2006, 08:50:PM
if you still cant improve improve people's stats slightly for enhanced realism, i've done that for most premiership players

samuelbarros
16-12-2006, 09:16:PM
One thing I've noticed about PES players is that the more lacking in their intelligence, the more they believe the game is realistic and the more they are able to ignore the underhand cpu scripting. Bless their stupid little cotton cocks.

The moral of this message is that if you want to enjoy PES, become more stupid. It really works!!


To become an idiot, all you have to do is insert :lui: into your posts and you will instantly become a cretin and begin to like PES.

Wow, I've just done it and PES rules :fool: .

alw1969
16-12-2006, 11:01:PM
alw1969 , you just need to practice as much as possible and be very sutble with your button pressing and STOP whining........please. If you take no notice of anyone when they are clearly trying to help ,they will get abit sick and tired of your moaning.

This post was a comment on HOW to score. Not a whine in site. Apart from your post whining at me supposedly whining when i wasn't whining. I could whine about your spelling mistakes but i wont.

you remind me of my father when we tried to play together , he never managed to shoot well .


yep, unfortunately he couldn't shoot blanks either. never-mind.

pogoss
17-12-2006, 04:27:AM
One thing I've noticed about PES players is that the more lacking in their intelligence, the more they believe the game is realistic and the more they are able to ignore the underhand cpu scripting. Bless their stupid little cotton cocks.

The moral of this message is that if you want to enjoy PES, become more stupid. It really works!!


To become an idiot, all you have to do is insert :lui: into your posts and you will instantly become a cretin and begin to like PES.

Wow, I've just done it and PES rules :fool: .
you have a high opinion of your self .

jjgadget
17-12-2006, 12:05:PM
Not a whine in site. Apart from your post whining at me supposadly whining when i wasn't whining. I could whine about your spelling mistakes but i wont :sleep:

SEE WHAT I MEAN. :eek: ......advice is forthcoming and all you can do is whine about me and complain about my spelling(which is a joke coming from you):-supposedly not supposadly :wootman:


A few people have insulted you but I have not , I have tried to give you friendly advice on how to score with this shooting system but some people just will not listen :chew:....... Nevermind I look forward to your reply as I know your EGO will not allow you to be silent :funny:

Decado
17-12-2006, 07:43:PM
I'm not having any trouble scoring (or any more than I should, anyway).

You just need to understand how the game works and use it to your advantage.

kurabica
17-12-2006, 08:21:PM
Hint : If you need a good shoot You MUST leave space between you and the ball . If you tried to shoot with the ball stick to your feet it will go off the bar .

Gnidrologist
18-12-2006, 04:18:AM
Well, I don't have much trouble scoring, but I don't particulary like the way I do. Somehow Pes6 has lost the magic compared to previous installments. If in Pes5 both me and AI could score in many various fashions, both stunning and cheesy goals, just like in real football, Pes6 seem to have very scripted shooting system. And the balooning over the bar is indeed overdone. It's not that it doesn't happen in real life, it's the frequency of this happening. They could at least make some other, more clever versions of you missing the goal. Blasting the ball almost vertically upwards when there's no pressure applied on every third or so shot looks odd and unrealistic.

As for tips on how to be more effective, here's some.
As already mentioned use R2 when shooting. I recommend to push it slightly after you filled the gauge bar, not before, otherwise the player will start mincing.
Try to pass alot around the penalty area. A lot of goals I score are tapins after a long and exaustnig passaround. AI just gets bored by it and does something stupid quite often. :evil:
Never shoot when defenders are pressing or are too near. You have to be absolutely free from any hint of a physical presence of the opponent at the moment you shoot.
Also, stop sprinting when shooting.

Not that mutch to recommend, just need to adopt oneslf to every Pes game. I already got used to the fact, that whenever Konami fixes and enhances some aspects of the game, they always manage to break some others that were actually good in previous games. Shooting is one of these things imo.

yahoodee
18-12-2006, 01:52:PM
imo the shooting system is nearly perfect!

i wonder that nobody lost a word about the training-mode.
as i played pes6 for the first time, i played 0:0 but i had lots of chances. so the next step was to check out the training-mode and i played with my team vs the opponent goaly to learn how to shoot. (after that you can step-by-step increase the number of your enemies.)
in training-mode you can replay the scene with the select-button (if you activated it in the menu). i played every scene 10-20 times and i tryed all possibilities of shooting, feinting, lobing etc.

when you do this you will see how your players react in different situations. and when you spend some time in recognizing and understanding how/why they do what they do, you will become a good pes players whos able to score goals respectively know how pes "works".

also i can advise this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-Official-Strategy/dp/1903511941/sr=8-3/qid=1166448589/ref=pd_ka_3/202-9542813-2803061?ie=UTF8&s=books

Dudecrash
18-12-2006, 05:56:PM
Why do you guys call it whining when someone brings to attention a major flaw in pes which is supposed to be 'realistic' in relatn to fifa? I kind of undastand that the ball should be a small distance away from and more to the side of the players prefered foot for a clean strike.What beats my undastanding is wen u have such a situatn,then a defender,from the otha side pushes your player slightly,u underpowa your shot and stil send it 2 mars?!

Dudecrash
18-12-2006, 06:05:PM
The logical eventuality when you are pushed slightly and you are going for a relatively weak placed shot is for the player to make a much weaker shot either straight at the keeper or crawling past the post and out of play because the player is off balance! Not sending the ball to uranus from 1yard!?

buba3d
18-12-2006, 06:21:PM
I'm seriously thinking of punting Babel during next master league season, he skins 4 defenders takes it round the keepr one big giant open goal and i press the shoot button (just a tiny tap) and the bastard skys it.

Same thing with messi, skins two defenders and again (tap it) and hits the post and gos out for a goal kick.

i can't get a header on target just seems to fly well over the bar or lobbed over the bar.

Fantastic game though

niceman
18-12-2006, 06:27:PM
I have finally sussed out the scoring system in PES6 ....

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the left hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the right hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to also put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Approach the goal straight on and press the shoot button and you can be guaranteed to put the ball at least 25 foot over the net.

HOWEVER .... if you have an open goal in front of you and are in the box quickly press the SHOOT button and you will guaranteed to put the ball at least 15 foot over the net.

If you have tried all of the above TRY AGAIN, because in time you WILL score a random and rare goal. Oh Yeah.

Does CONAMI make those golfing games that no one buys??? Maybe the programmer got his codes a bit mixed up. I mean shoot button / drive button could easily be mixed up.

Elkjaer or whatever your name is. Dont reply cos it will be an insult or abusive and why you ain't banned from this site is a mystery ....

anyway......

Kid ill reply...

First im a legend just face it and acknowledge it...

Second damn learn to play the game noob im sick of hearing babies like u crying i have no problem in scoring and it would be piece of cake to take u on...

:chew: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke:

Blow me...

Gnidrologist
18-12-2006, 07:09:PM
Blow me...
It rather seems that you're making blowjobs to admins/mods of these boards every day, as this could be the only possible reason why you're still here posting considering that your posts hold only childish bragging and unfunny, imature jokes that schoolboys usually make.
I remeber you were banned several times for being a retard back in the day. What happened? Did you became someone's bitch?

night
18-12-2006, 07:43:PM
Kid ill reply...

First im a legend just face it and acknowledge it...

Second damn learn to play the game noob im sick of hearing babies like u crying i have no problem in scoring and it would be piece of cake to take u on...

:chew: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke: :-puke:

Blow me...

Grow up or shut up.

sanblaster
18-12-2006, 08:51:PM
Definitely, using R2 while pressing the shoot button improves the shot dramatically, I've checked it myself. Feels awkward and unnecessary IMO. Try it and post your results..

alw1969
19-12-2006, 01:44:AM
SEE WHAT I MEAN. ......advice is forthcoming and all you can do is whine about me and complain about my spelling(which is a joke coming from you):-supposedly not supposadly


A few people have insulted you but I have not , I have tried to give you friendly advice on how to score with this shooting system but some people just will not listen ....... Nevermind I look forward to your reply as I know your EGO will not allow you to be silent

What a complete and utter numpty. Listen, i can score. I know how to score.

What i am "WHINING" about is the complete unpredictability of shooting. 9 times out of 10 the ball WILL shoot way over the cross bar. Whether you score or not is completely random.

Look at some of the replies on this post. There is loads of ppl who think the shooting system sucks. :sb9:


First im a legend just face it and acknowledge it...
Second damn learn to play the game noob im sick of hearing babies like u crying i have no problem in scoring and it would be piece of cake to take u on...


Blow me...


Is Elkjaer ....


A) Fat and spotty and bullied at school

B) Gets tucked in every night of his mam

C) Can't get a girlfriend

D) Boring

E) All of the above

I think E

yahoodee
19-12-2006, 07:19:AM
Whether you score or not is completely random.
sorry, but this is definitly false!
you will recognize it when playing training-mode as i described above.
when you replay a scene, and you always do exacly the same, then you will notice that also the result is always the same. so how can this bis "completely random"???

im tired of trying to show you all details wich are affecting a shoot but i cant leave so much ignorance alone!
your shot will become less accurate when you:
are running.
try to shoot while the ball is directly on your foot.
try to shoot while the ball is too far away, so you only touch the ball slightly with your forefoot.
are under pressure.
run out of stamina.
try to shoot while turning.
try to shoot from an angle >45°.
try to shoot directly after a hard shift in direction or feint.

so when you try to keep that mind, (what should be no problem if you know how football/soccer is played), then you will notice that shooting in pes6 is not "completely random"!!!

jjgadget
19-12-2006, 10:01:AM
9 times out of 10 the ball WILL shoot way over the cross bar

Its basically cos you are rubbish and completely inept at playing PES and you do like to Bull**** dont you boy :monkey:


Yahoodee is absolutely correct , Why dont you take his advice or just give up and sod off from this forum with your gibberish tripe. You just cant take the fact that your wrong and your poor EGO is hurting real bad. :boohoo:

O'neill
19-12-2006, 10:42:AM
.............. check out the training-mode and i played with my team vs the opponent goaly to learn how to shoot. (after that you can step-by-step increase the number of your enemies.)
in training-mode you can replay the scene with the select-button (if you activated it in the menu). i played every scene 10-20 times and i tryed all possibilities of shooting, feinting, lobing etc.

when you do this you will see how your players react in different situations. and when you spend some time in recognizing and understanding how/why they do what they do, you will become a good pes players whos able to score goals respectively know how pes "works".


That is smashing advice and I had forgot that facility was there. However I still dont agree the shooting is near perfect and that trajectory to the moon isnt right when you get your shot wrong. And do those same rules not apply when you shoot from 25-30 yards? As has been said before a lot of those situations in the box you would get a weak shot off in the correct general direction. So for those who want to put up with the in my opinion flawed system then that practice system is excellent and I wish it was in Fifa so I could work on other things (not the shooting).

yahoodee
19-12-2006, 11:11:AM
post of vid of such a situation! i cant rate what i havent seen!

of course these "rules" apply for 25-30 yards shoots also! why shouldnt they?

alw1969
19-12-2006, 12:44:PM
:lui: Its basically cos you are rubbish and completely inept at playing PES and you do like to Bull**** dont you boy


Yahoodee is absolutely correct , Why don't you take his advice or just give up and sod off from this forum with your gibberish tripe. You just cant take the fact that your wrong and your poor EGO is hurting real bad.

Listen numpty boy, if my post offends/bores/ etc etc then ...

a) Don't read them.
b) Don't reply to them.
c) Don't upset yourself over it

There is definitely a problem with the shooting system. If there wasn't why would so many people say there was. FACT.

Practice practice, yeah yeah yeah. Fact is, when you playing a match and press the shoot button the ball is so unpredictable as to where it goes.

As for numpty boy going on about egos and whing all the time .... T :lui: sser

niceman
19-12-2006, 12:57:PM
It rather seems that you're making blowjobs to admins/mods of these boards every day, as this could be the only possible reason why you're still here posting considering that your posts hold only childish bragging and unfunny, imature jokes that schoolboys usually make.
I remeber you were banned several times for being a retard back in the day. What happened? Did you became someone's bitch?

Gynecologist...nobody asked for ur opinion...u should be gratefull to read my comments... :-puke: :chew:

orido01
19-12-2006, 02:16:PM
9 times out of 10 the ball WILL shoot way over the cross bar

Dude, go get a football and find some goals. Stand 20 yards out and kick the ball while trying to get it airborne. If you're lucky it'll go in, but more likely it'll go flying away.

Now imagine trying to thread your way through a 4 man defense and kicking through a narrow angle, all the while hoping that your shot will beat the keeper.

Football isn't about screaming long range shots. Only a select few are experts at this. Try watching some football highlights and you'll see that over 70% of all goals come from 2-3 meters out from goal from clever teamwork. Play the game as it SHOULD be played :P

jjgadget
19-12-2006, 03:19:PM
when you playing a match and press the shoot button the ball is so unpredictable as to where it goes


Hahahaha.........only if your useless at PES :wootman:

Its funny how out of nearly 40 replys in this thread there are only 2 who in some way agree with you after you said:-

There is loads of ppl who think the shooting system sucks

which just show what a bull******* you are , If you actually had some sort of descent argument for what you claim then people would be interested in what you say, but all you can do is insult everyone who disagrees with you.
The fact that you keep resorting to insults obviously prooves that these are all of the repressed feelings you have about yourself. Now go to the toilet and make yourself sick :-puke:

a) Don't read them. b)Don't reply to them.......

I'm not upset it's just fun to see what you going to say next :rofl:

loz99
19-12-2006, 04:38:PM
your're sh!t, and you know you are, you're sh!t, and you know are, you're SH!T!!!!!!!

Dudecrash
19-12-2006, 04:58:PM
Oh my,every one has got their panties in such a tangle! The shooting system is screwed up,but hey either we go and make a soccer sim which is perfect or we ignore the shortcomings of pes and play it as we wait for the next iteration of the game. For you guys who refuse to see any faults in pes,shame on you and may you blush yourselves to sleep every night until your man enough to take back your words and state the obvious.

Soovija
19-12-2006, 05:01:PM
Gynecologist...nobody asked for ur opinion...u should be gratefull to read my comments... :-puke: :chew:


Please m8 - show us a little respect !

Wisher wishes not much - but please do that !


My real name is Ragnar , but my Forum name is Soovija and that means in English wisher !


I am wisher :)

Grumpygit
19-12-2006, 05:06:PM
IMO there is NO problem with the shooting system. When you have sussed it it's absolutely fantastic and very realistic.

I play on top player level and I am scoring 1,2 or 3 in nearly every game..occasionally I get a 0-0 but that's football....and so is ballooning the ball over the bar sometimes..

Also, the " Henry passes the ball into the net " goal is alive and very much kicking in this game I am glad to report....enjoy!!! :wootman:

O'neill
19-12-2006, 06:03:PM
post of vid of such a situation! i cant rate what i havent seen!

of course these "rules" apply for 25-30 yards shoots also! why shouldnt they?


Well they dont, its easier to get your shot on target from there than it is in the area, and thats even if you have your pace button pressed or are under pressure etc.

loz99
19-12-2006, 06:44:PM
IMO there is NO problem with the shooting system. When you have sussed it it's absolutely fantastic and very realistic.

I play on top player level and I am scoring 1,2 or 3 in nearly every game..occasionally I get a 0-0 but that's football....and so is ballooning the ball over the bar sometimes..

Also, the " Henry passes the ball into the net " goal is alive and very much kicking in this game I am glad to report....enjoy!!! :wootman:
dead right, there is no problem whatsoever with the new shooting system!

niceman
19-12-2006, 08:22:PM
IMO there is NO problem with the shooting system.

Only for noobs and crybabies...

:chew: :-puke: :dragan:

europa119
20-12-2006, 12:24:AM
The shooting system defiently isnt 100%, but its pretty damn good. Its definetly not about powering the ball from outside the penalty box, hell even the goals I score from outside the penalty box arent scorchers, they are just well placed usually lofted. Even upclose shots just have to be well placed or alternatively you have to use clever passing that keeps the defence and goalie guessing and confused.

But I think the number one thing is touch or power, be very light on the shoot button, lighter than you think you have to be, and more shots will be on target. Unless you have someone like Henry who's shot power and accuracy are about the same, you'll have to hold back, example player Babel or even Fabregas I think, whos power generally far outstrips there accuracy.

I personally find a powerful shot is maybe a little over a quarter of the power bar, and I alaways aim to keep it under half.

Someone also made a good point about wether you are running, or you have pressure on you, or the angle, or a weak foot shot, or things like transitions where turning and immediatly shooting without some settling of the player decreases accuracy. Also if the ball is even a little bit up in the air that just means you will need less power...really all those things are as in real life.

CaiRo
20-12-2006, 07:05:AM
if u inside the box press the shooting button then pres R2 the player will shoot it low and slowly with very high accuracy u can guarantee 90% goal
i usually get aloot of goals with shoot from all over the places inside out side even from the side especially when u shooting with Carlos :evil:

Dudecrash
22-12-2006, 05:04:PM
I finally cracked scoring! slow down,pick your spot and massage the ball into the net.Choose amongst;faking the shot and rounding the keeper,going for the far post,or just hitting it wit a bit of power towards goal and praying for a miracle. Too many goals now is my complaint!

jstyants
22-12-2006, 07:29:PM
I sorted shooting out by simply changing where i directed the ball, using the ps2 analog stick i always did a shot by press top right on the analog, but now i go and press BOTTOM right or left and get alot on target and in the net

I USED to:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8295/untitledvv2.jpg

I NOW:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6082/untitled1cw6.jpg

goal_machine84
23-12-2006, 02:49:PM
interesting thread (H)....here is my take

First, i must admit the shootin isnt the best but its rewarding once u get the feel of it...i was also so pissed at it that i once literally smacked my hand on the keyboard and injured my wrist :mad:....but i realised (as every PES gamer does) that practice is the ultimate solution :jambo:

IMO, composure is the most important aspect in the shootin....thats y R2 is very important and it will result in better shots and they also depend on the player stats, his positioning and the cpu ai

Konami try to create as much 'randomness' as possible so that the game doesnt feel scripted and they do a hell of a brilliant job at that...its football and its random as it should be...it depends on how u react to it and make it work ur way ;)

deluxxe
23-12-2006, 09:35:PM
One thing I've noticed about PES players is that the more lacking in their intelligence, the more they believe the game is realistic and the more they are able to ignore the underhand cpu scripting. Bless their stupid little cotton cocks.


Every video game is scripted. If there were no scripts in the game, it wouldn't be a game. it would be a movie, or a still picture.

man you must really suck if you miss wide open goals all the time. It must suck being you. :sb9:

night
23-12-2006, 09:38:PM
man you must really suck if you miss wide open goals all the time. It must suck being you. :sb9:
Yeah. He must hang himself or throw himself off the bridge right? :rolleyes:

samuelbarros
23-12-2006, 10:24:PM
Every video game is scripted. If there were no scripts in the game, it wouldn't be a game. it would be a movie, or a still picture.

No they're not, you pathetic runt. There are many computer games that set out the laws of physics as best they can and then let the human and AI players play a real game within this consistent physics model.

PES, on the other, makes no attempt to recreate the laws of physics as they really are but instead, scripts some farcical physics model which varies continually to suit the current position in the script that has been written for every match. The laughable "laws of physics" are in a state of perpetual change in order to "make things happen" so that every match is "exciting". This is why so many people who have played PES are left appauled at how poor it has been allowed to become.

One doesn't play PES, one watches it.

Grumpygit
23-12-2006, 10:38:PM
There is another very important factor in the accuracy of shooting and that is ....have you pressed the dash button just before the shoot button? Sounds stupid but I have come to realise that even if you are pressing R2 when you press the shoot button, if you have pressed the dash button just before (maybe to get past a defender) you are often missing the target. If you don't believe me, try it. IMO this is pretty much crucial in shooting accuracy.... :D

Dudecrash
25-12-2006, 10:28:AM
Every video game is scripted. If there were no scripts in the game, it wouldn't be a game. it would be a movie, or a still picture.

man you must really suck if you miss wide open goals all the time. It must suck being you. :sb9:
Right on,dude!

JanerAli
25-12-2006, 11:17:AM
I have finally sussed out the scoring system in PES6 ....

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the left hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Whatever team you are playing press the shoot button when approaching the goal from the right hand side diagonally and you can be guaranteed to also put the ball 10 feet over the net.

Approach the goal straight on and press the shoot button and you can be guaranteed to put the ball at least 25 foot over the net.

HOWEVER .... if you have an open goal in front of you and are in the box quickly press the SHOOT button and you will guaranteed to put the ball at least 15 foot over the net.

If you have tried all of the above TRY AGAIN, because in time you WILL score a random and rare goal. Oh Yeah.

Does CONAMI make those golfing games that no one buys??? Maybe the programmer got his codes a bit mixed up. I mean shoot button / drive button could easily be mixed up.

Elkjaer or whatever your name is. Dont reply cos it will be an insult or abusive and why you ain't banned from this site is a mystery ....

anyway......Go play Fifa, mite be easier for u, shooting is not a problem in pes6, learn.

pefan
25-12-2006, 12:23:PM
At first it was a major issue. Now its a breeze i score goals for fun on professional or top player levels. Obviously not every player in the game can shoot. So i only shoot with the ones that can.

simakperrce
25-12-2006, 06:51:PM
sorry, but this is definitly false!
you will recognize it when playing training-mode as i described above.
when you replay a scene, and you always do exacly the same, then you will notice that also the result is always the same. so how can this bis "completely random"???

im tired of trying to show you all details wich are affecting a shoot but i cant leave so much ignorance alone!
your shot will become less accurate when you:
are running.
try to shoot while the ball is directly on your foot.
try to shoot while the ball is too far away, so you only touch the ball slightly with your forefoot.
are under pressure.
run out of stamina.
try to shoot while turning.
try to shoot from an angle >45°.
try to shoot directly after a hard shift in direction or feint.

so when you try to keep that mind, (what should be no problem if you know how football/soccer is played), then you will notice that shooting in pes6 is not "completely random"!!!

I have exactly one word to prove that everything you said above is BS and none of the influences you mentioned has any bearing on the actual outcome of a shot:

Adriano

You know why Konami put all these stats in the game? No, not because they have any influence on the game situation but only so that useful idiots like you are easily impressed and can lecture others about how the angle of the foot or the length of the moustache of a player leave their mark on the ball's speed and how this game is so 'complex' and 'realistic' and 'like the real thing' and 'how it's like so amazing how many aspects play a role in it'.

Of course you don't have any proof for what you're babbling on about (unless you point out the code for me where this is actually done), but since PES is a religion to you it MUST be so, no?

Dudecrash
25-12-2006, 07:14:PM
Guys guys,its just a game! They can only do so much to mimic the real thing,then again use your common sense,they must make atleast 100 pes's b4 they make it perfect! They r in the bussiness of making money and lots of it. Merry xmas evri1.:-)

alw1969
26-12-2006, 11:44:PM
Quote:
when you playing a match and press the shoot button the ball is so unpredictable as to where it goes




Hahahaha.........only if your useless at PES

Its funny how out of nearly 40 replys in this thread there are only 2 who in some way agree with you after you said:-


Quote:
There is loads of ppl who think the shooting system sucks



which just show what a bull******* you are , If you actually had some sort of descent argument for what you claim then people would be interested in what you say, but all you can do is insult everyone who disagrees with you.
The fact that you keep resorting to insults obviously prooves that these are all of the repressed feelings you have about yourself. Now go to the toilet and make yourself sick


To the numpty who replied to this have a look at this post ....

Click Here (http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=140456)

...theres more than 2 people who think this game sucks like the shooting system , the gameplay being rubbish.

Sorry if it doesn't agree with you.

yahoodee
27-12-2006, 08:39:AM
I have exactly one word to prove that everything you said above is BS and none of the influences you mentioned has any bearing on the actual outcome of a shot:

Adriano

You know why Konami put all these stats in the game? No, not because they have any influence on the game situation but only so that useful idiots like you are easily impressed and can lecture others about how the angle of the foot or the length of the moustache of a player leave their mark on the ball's speed and how this game is so 'complex' and 'realistic' and 'like the real thing' and 'how it's like so amazing how many aspects play a role in it'.

Of course you don't have any proof for what you're babbling on about (unless you point out the code for me where this is actually done), but since PES is a religion to you it MUST be so, no?
...

jjgadget
27-12-2006, 12:40:PM
You would have thought that a 37 year old married man with 2 kids and drives a Citroen Picasso 1.8 HDI SX :sb9: and who's favourite star is Bruce Forsyth :wootman: would have such a massive EGO........now would you :funny:...........YOU know who you are..... :amika:

alw1969
27-12-2006, 11:44:PM
You would have thought that a 37 year old married man with 2 kids and drives a Citroen Picasso 1.8 HDI SX and who's favourite star is Bruce Forsyth would have such a massive EGO........now would you ...........YOU know who you are.....


Hmmm

That post above has been reported to the site administrators.

Could you tell me how you got such info. What other info have you got.

Have you hacked into my PC?

Everyone beware of this user.

In 2 minds wether to contact Police as you have gained private information here.

niceman
28-12-2006, 01:00:AM
Hmmm

That post above has been reported to the site administrators.

Could you tell me how you got such info. What other info have you got.

Have you hacked into my PC?

Everyone beware of this user.

In 2 minds wether to contact Police as you have gained private information here.

You little cuent the "dick" u emailed me will make it much easier for mods to ban ur noobass...dont cry kid...ehrm baby...sorry... :taz: :mrpimp: :lui: :sb9:

alw1969
28-12-2006, 01:56:AM
You little cuent the "dick" u emailed me will make it much easier for mods to ban ur noobass...dont cry kid...ehrm baby...sorry... :taz: :mrpimp: :lui: :sb9:

How did someone get info on me?


Ok so the mods hack your PC with the "personal" information you enter to join this site then?

Illegal/dangerous site. Nice one.

oh and one more thing .... niceman, YOU ARE A DICK so whats the problem?

...just gonna check my bank account .....

buba3d
28-12-2006, 04:04:AM
Sadam shouldn't be the one facing death, it should be you's two tubes of pathetic human life.

Now on to my intended post

Now i'm onto my 5th season of master league and the CPU AI has tried every dirty book in the trick to make me lose, well it bloody did do it. In the space of 10 mins for example i've beaten there defenders, skinned the keeper on two occasians *sp and one hit the bar while the other one (just by tapping the shoot button) sky's it, passes go astray, players getting brought down in the box and no suck penalty, blocking etc however when the CPU AI plays fast passing, skins my defenders even after i two foot slide tackle them they still manage to have the ball, my own keeper, defenders decide to chat up the 4th offical they never stay in defence, cpu always score from a corner or free kick.

It's funny when i manage to get into the box my player sky's it no matter how hard i press the button it still does it

samuelbarros
28-12-2006, 12:20:PM
You little cuent the "dick" u emailed me will make it much easier for mods to ban ur noobass...dont cry kid...ehrm baby...sorry... :taz: :mrpimp: :lui: :sb9:

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niceman
02-01-2007, 02:23:PM
...just gonna check my bank account .....

Dont bother there is no money loser...:mrpimp: :mexican: :bob: :jambo:

Brondbyfan
03-01-2007, 06:39:AM
I think both sides have a valid point here. I was struggling a lot shooting to begin with. I have gotten better and am routinely winning on professional now. But it's because I have changed the way I shoot, the kinds of opportunities I create. I don't think this is a good thing.

I truly don't know how anyone can argue that this game doesn't make your shot go over the bar too often. I've seen Kevin Davies head 6 feet over the bar when unmarked from 2 yards with an open goal. I've seen him dribble past the keeper, only to sky his shot over from 6 yards. And believe me, I am tapping that shoot button as quickly and lightly as I can. We laugh at stuff like this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1jQG73v7X0U) because it's so freaking rare at the top level. But in PES6, it happens all the time. It doesn't mean it's impossible to win a game, but it's cheap, unrealistic, and frustrating.

I simply think there are some shots that should go into the goal 99% of the time, regardless of whether there is a defender around you, how fast you are going, etc.