Chelsea's domination of the Premier League through Roman Abramovich’s billions will be brought to an end by Europe’s football authorities because they fear that it is ruining football.

UEFA have decided that Chelsea’s multimillion- pound recruitment policy, which allows the club to bring in stars such as Andriy Shevchenko, Michael Ballack and Didier Drogba every season because it is subsidised by Abramovich’s billions, amounts to unfair competition.

And UEFA chief executive Lars-Christer Olsson has told The Mail on Sunday that the greed of English clubs could destroy the game if new rules to limit wage bills are not introduced.

The rules would revolutionise the European game by ruling that Abramovich’s funding of Chelsea was like a state subsidising its nationalised industry, which is currently illegal in the European Union.

Olsson, who runs European football’s governing body, said: "I think Chelsea are a very special case. What we should do about it is a tricky question. Is it fair competition? Or should a football club accept getting these gifts or donations from individuals.

"When it comes to a case where an individual is prepared to lose money,I think it is a very special case. I agree it’s unfair to other clubs.

"To tackle it you have to agree within the football family and with the European Community to say that this is seen as unfair competition and that is why it’s against the rules."

That would mean an end to the unlimited transfer budget available to manager Jose Mourinho and to the spiralling wages that has seen Chelsea able to buy up any player they want, such as Shaun Wright- Phillips, even if they are apparently surplus to requirements.

It could also hinder the new investors in the Premiership, such as Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum’s company Dubai International Capital, who are attempting to take over Liverpool, and Newcastle United’s suitors Polygon, from copying Abramovich’s profligate ways.

Olsson and UEFA are backing proposals made recently by the Independent European Sports Review (IESR) to limit wages of a club to a proportion of their turnover.

It would mean that clubs could still pay a top player whatever they wanted, but that their overall wage bill would be limited by how much money they could actually generate.

Olsson said: "On wages, I’m not against having a relationship between salary and turnover or earned income. We’re going to the EU with these proposals. It would open the way to have better control of the costs. If we have some cases where the wages represent 110 per cent of the turnover in the club,we have to react."

European sports ministers are currently considering legislation on the proposals of the IESR, which was set up by British sports minister Richard Caborn and headed by Portuguese politician Jose Luis Arnaut.

The review’s recommendations, including wage control, were enthusiastically received by the 25 EU sports ministers, who met earlier this month, along with the European Culture Commissioner, Jan Figel from Slovakia, and thus have a strong chance of being accepted into European law in the next two years.

It would end Chelsea’s spendthrift policy, which has seen them spend £276 million on transfers in less than four years and announce losses amounting to £228m. But the proposals are opposed by the Premier League and its chief executive Richard Scudamore.

And Olsson has delivered a stinging critique of the Premiership, claiming it was dominated by greedy clubs and in danger of becoming as corrupt as Italy’s Serie A.

Olsson said: "His (Scudamore’s) comments opposing the proposals are disappointing. I think his views are very English, very Premier League. Everyone who sees what is going on understands you need a European approach.

"But I think his views are not that important as, if only one of the major leagues is against the proposals and all the others are positive, it’s not a major blow."

Olsson implied that if it continued on its current path, the Premier League could end up like Italian football, where last summer Juventus were relegated and AC Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio were all docked points for being involved in a match-fixing scandal that saw referees favour their teams.

On the Premiership, Olsson said: "The uneven distribution of wealth is one thing that needs to be addressed. The development we had in Italy could also happen in England.

"In Italy they had a system where the top three clubs were totally dominating everything, when it came to distributing money, when it came to the organisations, where they were occupying the seat as the head of the league and the seat of the head of the FA. They only made contracts for themselves.

"If this is happening in any country, including England, and some of the big clubs are only grabbing, grabbing, grabbing, there will be a counter-reaction.

"If you listen to the explanations of Juventus (in the recent matchfixing scandal), one of them was that this (fixing referees) is perfectly fine because we were only acting in the interests of our shareholders. If that kind of argument is being used on a sporting issue, then we are on very dangerous ground."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=423152&in_page_id=1779

Are you posting this to give the Chelsea fans a laugh?

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None of this is ever going to happen so yeah.......laugh on ppl :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Haha. But Chelsea its ruin the football with all the money.

I just hope Liverpool can fight with them soon! :wootman:

Yeah, Chelsea BEWARE!!!



Olsson is on to something and soon all your money will be gone and you will be stuck a HUGE wage bill and no money, then you will have to sell all your players, then you will be stuck with crap players and do so bad that you will get relegated year after year to the North Pound Sunday League and then even relegated from there and then the team will be in soooooo much debts that you will have to go bankrupt and leave the face of earths for ever and then tom will kill the stupid jerry.

wtf...how is that like Italian football? It's not like Chelsea rules the FA...

its pretty gay, it'll scare off investors and the nclubs would be even more trouble

Even as a United supporter of 14 (13? 15?) years, I really don't care about Chelsea's cash. I'd rather they take care of the matchfixing, something that actually goes against rules, before they try to stop the big money. That's a far bigger problem in my opinion, even with all the big takeovers happening.

hahahahahahhahahhahaaa....What a crock of :sb9:

David Dein ....Eat your fu<king heart out wanker...... :funny:

He is stirring all this up at UEFA and I might just personally assasinate the fat fu<k myself.

What is really behind this pathetic thinking is the fact that English clubs are now back where they were before we were all banned from Europe for many years.

Back then UEFA were sick of English clubs dominating Europe so the ban suited other European countries very well. It kept us out of Europe and enabled other non- English clubs to actually win something. It has taken us a few years to catch up. Now English clubs are beginning to dominate again, and THAT is what Uefa is worried about.

So, because UEFA cannot find any other reason for limiting English clubs dominance in Europe, they attempt to resort to these pathetic measures. This is not just about Chelsea. This will concern every club in England. They can do nothing.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2079276.ece


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Arsenal are the only club in England who are whinging about the situation.

erm...Pede...not wanting to sound disrespectful but why on earth would UEFA have something against English clubs doing well in Europe???

if u ask me , the ones that are corrupt is UEFA , its funny how Wenger is crying, hes sees chelsea, westham, aston villa and now liverpool all being taken over by billionaires except his club, pfff jelousy

I bet wat they would say is that if the FA dont agree with them, they wont be allowed in any UEFA competitiions :kader:

erm...Pede...not wanting to sound disrespectful but why on earth would UEFA have something against English clubs doing well in Europe???

It all goes back a long long way mate. I remember just before Liverpool fans got us ALL banned from Europe, UEFA were constantly bitching about the strength of English clubs in European competitions. They cooked the fixtures the best they could to get English clubs eliminated early but to no avail. When Liverpool supporters finally played into UEFA's hands, that was when they took the opportunity to act.

UEFA have always had an issue with English clubs. It's just the way it's always been. Now they are a force in Europe once more, UEFA are looking at ways to curtail English success in any way that they can. Its nothing new, you just need to be old enough to remember what it was like once before.

It all goes back a long long way mate. I remember just before Liverpool fans got us ALL banned from Europe, UEFA were constantly bitching about the strength of English clubs in European competitions. They cooked the fixtures the best they could to get English clubs eliminated early but to no avail. When Liverpool supporters finally played into UEFA's hands, that was when they took the opportunity to act.

UEFA have always had an issue with English clubs. It's just the way it's always been. Now they are a force in Europe once more, UEFA are looking at ways to curtail English success in any way that they can. Its nothing new, you just need to be old enough to remember what it was like once before.

Money didn't seem to stop Arsenal and Liverpool from making the final the proper way the last two years.

Chelsea, Madrid and their insane spending will be the only clubs hurt by this.

and who the f*ck decides if spending is insane or not?

Compared to my club, Arsenal's spending and budget is insane too, shall we complain to Fifa as well?


If they want to cap wages they should cap it all the way to normal reasonable wages, that most reasonably stable european clubs can afford. Any other way is just a way of the top 5 or 6 european clubs to protect themselves and their domination of european football.

hahahahahahhahahhahaaa....What a crock of :sb9:

David Dein ....Eat your fu<king heart out wanker...... :funny:

He is stirring all this up at UEFA and I might just personally assasinate the fat fu<k myself.

What is really behind this pathetic thinking is the fact that English clubs are now back where they were before we were all banned from Europe for many years.

Back then UEFA were sick of English clubs dominating Europe so the ban suited other European countries very well. It kept us out of Europe and enabled other non- English clubs to actually win something. It has taken us a few years to catch up. Now English clubs are beginning to dominate again, and THAT is what Uefa is worried about.

So, because UEFA cannot find any other reason for limiting English clubs dominance in Europe, they attempt to resort to these pathetic measures. This is not just about Chelsea. This will concern every club in England. They can do nothing.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2079276.ece


http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/arsenal/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/12/15/SOCCER_Takeovers.html&TEAMHD=arsenal&DIV=prem&TEAM=ARSENAL&RH=Arsenal&PREV_SEASON=

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Arsenal are the only club in England who are whinging about the situation.

Arsenal are one of the annoyed teams because we're a properly run club. We had control over our finances and knew how to avoid going into recievership. And so, we because we were well run, we weren't cheap as chips on the stock market. Chelsea were because they were run by a bunch of apes, so they were cheap as ****, Abramovichsaw an opportunity and took it.

and who the f*ck decides if spending is insane or not?

Compared to my club, Arsenal's spending and budget is insane too, shall we complain to Fifa as well?


If they want to cap wages they should cap it all the way to normal reasonable wages, that most reasonably stable european clubs can afford. Any other way is just a way of the top 5 or 6 european clubs to protect themselves and their domination of european football.

They're going to cap the clubs with caps tied to income. Arsenal make a profit (the debt is due to building a stadium), Man Utd make a profit, Chelsea don't.

That's "insane spending".

that's hardly achievable, anyone that knows business knows there are lots of ways of getting money into the club, not to mention Abramovich can just create a ghost company to buy players and get them to Chelsea, like MSI did with Tevez and Mascherano, without the club itself spending one penny.

They are NOT NOT NOT....going to cap any club. It is far beyond even UEFA's control.....Thank God.

Who the fu<k cares if a club is run like a business. There are no rules to say a club HAS to be run like that. If your club decide to play like that then thats up to them. There aint a thing that UEFA can do about any of this crap.

As Virgo said, Arsenal leave his club in the shade as far as finance goes. So which club do we use as a yardstick for all the others?

Arsenal need to stop crying and start to spend all those millions that Dein and Hill Wood are collecting the interest from. Tight ass shysters.

Even as a United supporter of 14 (13? 15?) years, I really don't care about Chelsea's cash. I'd rather they take care of the matchfixing, something that actually goes against rules, before they try to stop the big money. That's a far bigger problem in my opinion, even with all the big takeovers happening.

well said!

Even as a United supporter of 14 (13? 15?) years, I really don't care about Chelsea's cash. I'd rather they take care of the matchfixing, something that actually goes against rules, before they try to stop the big money. That's a far bigger problem in my opinion, even with all the big takeovers happening.

No, but see, UEFA is not making money from Chelsea spending a lot on players. However, they are making money from fixing the games and then they are making money from fining the teams that they fixed the games for. So, why try to take care of that, when it gives a double profit?

The rules would revolutionise the European game by ruling that Abramovich’s funding of Chelsea was like a state subsidising its nationalised industry, which is currently illegal in the European Union.

HAHAHAHAH!!!! Yeah, it's exactly the same thing! I can see how UEFA could from from state sponsoring of national business to the owner of a company funding his own company with his own money. It's so clear!

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and obviously Chelsea (or any other club) would win on appeal if this ridiculous rule ever got passed.

Its just said on BBC that Chelsea arent the only ones happy bout this, also Ac Milan, Real Madrid and all the other big clubs, so i dunno it can be passed , thses clubs prolly got a team of world class lawyer lookin at this, i dont thnk they can pull it off, u cant control an investments when its done legally, HOW THE HELL are CLUBS like states being subsidized, stupid UEFA

Here's another, better solution.

Lets give Chelsea even more money coz even with all the money in the world, they still won't win the Champions League. :evil: :Bow:

at least they won't spend the money to fix matches.

Money didn't seem to stop Arsenal and Liverpool from making the final the proper way the last two years.

Chelsea, Madrid and their insane spending will be the only clubs hurt by this.

They're going to cap the clubs with caps tied to income. Arsenal make a profit (the debt is due to building a stadium), Man Utd make a profit, Chelsea don't.

That's "insane spending".

So I guess we are not insane spenders right? We actually make a profit, I believe last year it was 80 million euro profit. Not too shabby I think.

at least they won't spend the money to fix matches.


Whoo....Touche didy.....nice one mate (Y)

As Nimreitz said, an owner of a private company who puts his own money into that company is doing nothing wrong whatsoever. Chelsea Football Club belongs to Roman, it is his company and therefore is free to pump as much money into it as he wants.

I just love the way that so many gutted people are looking for a way to castrate Chelsea, its just too silly for words. UEFA like everyone else are just pissing in the wind.

Money didn't seem to stop Arsenal and Liverpool from making the final the proper way the last two years.

Chelsea, Madrid and their insane spending will be the only clubs hurt by this.


i agree bobby
ur comments are rare but make sense

I think what you meant to say is, his comments RARELY make sense :)

at least they won't spend the money to fix matches.


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uefa wont be able to pull this one off.

They are NOT NOT NOT....going to cap any club. It is far beyond even UEFA's control.....Thank God.

Who the fu<k cares if a club is run like a business. There are no rules to say a club HAS to be run like that. If your club decide to play like that then thats up to them. There aint a thing that UEFA can do about any of this crap.

As Virgo said, Arsenal leave his club in the shade as far as finance goes. So which club do we use as a yardstick for all the others?

Arsenal need to stop crying and start to spend all those millions that Dein and Hill Wood are collecting the interest from. Tight ass shysters.

How the hell?! I'd be banned for calling someone a shyster!

[QUOTE=pede54] Chelsea Football Club belongs to Roman[QUOTE]


In my old fashined way of seeing football, that's the problem. When a club belongs to a rich guy and not to its supporters.

It's the american model and it applies to 99% of the clubs. I konw my point is very unrealistic and naive. This is what we have now and it has to be accepted like this, but I still don't like it.

It's like a kind of feudalism in sport.

is there any club in England who is owned by its supporters and not by a rich guy? any big club I mean

the national team.

Clubs belong to the supporters because the club would struggle to survive without it's supporters. but the club has to be owned by someone who is willing to invests millions of dollars Roman Abromavich loves football and Chelsea FC that’s why you see him at all the home games and even many away games he doesn't have to, I m sure he has important things to do. but he loves the club and he is a supporter therefore Chelsea belongs to a :drevil: supporter :drevil: . i don't see Malcolm Glaser at the ManU games or Berlusconi at the AC Milan games.

i don't see Malcolm Glaser at the ManU games or Berlusconi at the AC Milan games.

maybe they wear sunglasses and fake beards.

Glazer hasnt been to one game only his son has, but it dont matter that guy is lik 150 yrs old , i dunno why UEFA are haters

maybe they wear sunglasses and fake beards.
:evil: hahaha

What else is Abramovich gonna do? He is not the one 400 million pounds in debt running like 5 businesses.


If you don't remember oligarhs work at their own leisure, especially the ones that survived Putin.

At the end of the day As a United supporter. CHelsea aint ruining anything. IF a rich guy from Dubai bought United people might be saying the same thing but United supporters wouldnt complain. Other clubs like Liverpool had 500 opportunities to let a rich investor buy their club. So i dont see the problem.

At the end of the day its 11 vs 11 on the pitch. YOu dont see Drogba running around with his wallet slapping defenders out of the way. You want to buy players go buy Vander Vaart or some Brazilian whizkid. Theres so many excuses being made. Yes clubs do raise the prices where Chelsea are involved. To this day Chelsea have not spent more than the 32 million they paid for Shevchenko. Before that United paid 29 million pounds on Ferdinand no one complained then. Before that Real Madrid paid 45 pounds for Zidane. Clubs were already spending huge amounts. Lets face it the FIFA officials cant stand the fact that 5 british clubs are in the competition every year. Well guess what that tough t*ts. 11 vs 11 on the pitch if clubs cant compete with that then get stuffed. The rest of the world and the premiership have to try and match chelsea on the pitch. Look at Everton are they going to say Chelseas money won that game.

United failed to strengthen adequately in the summer. THe market was there players were available. So if our squad lacks depth we cant blame Chelsea or russian oil money. Its not an excuse anymore.

United failed to strengthen adequately in the summer. THe market was there players were available. So if our squad lacks depth we cant blame Chelsea or russian oil money. Its not an excuse anymore.
True. But it's really annoying seeing how whenever we declare interest in some player so do Chelsea all of a sudden. And unfortunately, that player chooses Chelsea for money reasons even though he will be their 100th player in that particular position. For me, that is one way of how those millions of pounds can ruin football, for other clubs who wanted that player more than Chelsea did and for the player who ruined his career for the sake of the money.

What you have to realise is this mate. When United show an interest in a player, you can be sure that 20 other clubs from all over the globe are also watching him. United do not FIND these players alone and then every other club comes in to poach them. That is crap.

The player whittles down the offers until he gets to choose between 2 clubs. If he does not choose United that does not mean that money decided for him. What you have to realise is that United are NOT the most glamourous club in the EPL any longer. Like it or not, players want to join Chelsea in the hope that they can cut it as a Chelsea player. I'm not saying it will last forever but at this moment WE are the club that players want to join to make a name for themselves. Thats just the way some players think. If they aint good enough then of course they don't make it, Its that simple.

Man U offer extremely high wages too you know, and they pay ridiculous transfer fees as well, so to use Chelsea money as an excuse for Man U's lack of success in signing players, is groundless.

still, 2 points ahead(6)

haha, i love to heat it up.


well, there's no way on earth this will ever happen, everybody will have to be able to live with chelsea being rich, but one more thing, even with all that money, would they have won the EPL twice in a row without mourinho?...

the answer to that is NO.

What you have to realise is this mate. When United show an interest in a player, you can be sure that 20 other clubs from all over the globe are also watching him. United do not FIND these players alone and then every other club comes in to poach them. That is crap.

I think you know that if Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Real M, Barca, Liverpool, AC Milan, Inter, all are trying to buy 1 superkid or a couple, chelsea will win the players in the transfer market,if they feel that they need that Player or Players, the only way other teams have a chance against Chelsea in the transfer market. IF the PLAYER (superkid) feel like he not going to get game time. But then chelsea will probably give that player a sh*t load more money.

Also That chelsea "B" team in the championship is B*LLSH*T, Jose knows how good Wenger developing players so he trying to match Wenger for future years.

Chelsea fans know it and so does everyone else

No son....Arsenal fans think it but nobody else does.

The idea about putting a B team in the Championship, is something that already exists in Spain, but seeing as you diss Chelsea at every opportunity, I wouldn't expect a numbskull like you to think that deeply. It has nothing to do with Arsehole Whinger or Arsenal. Why the fu<k would ANY team be worried about Arsenal. You are surviving on Wengers empty promises. Arsenal's time has come and gone so get used to it mate. There is no golden future so get used to the idea and face reality.

Arsehole Whinger(6)

No son....Arsenal fans think it but nobody else does.

The idea about putting a B team in the Championship, is something that already exists in Spain, but seeing as you diss Chelsea at every opportunity, I wouldn't expect a numbskull like you to think that deeply. It has nothing to do with Arsehole Whinger or Arsenal. Why the fu<k would ANY team be worried about Arsenal. You are surviving on Wengers empty promises. Arsenal's time has come and gone so get used to it mate. There is no golden future so get used to the idea and face reality.


We shall see. Chelsea despite the millions spent on their team have a core of players in their prime and adapted to this league who at least spent a few years getting better and better, Lampard and Terry for example spent years in the shadow of Arsenal and Manchester united before finally getting the mental strength and power to be the players they are now. When people talk of improvement and players maturing- then you look at these players as examples. Lampard 3 or 4 years ago was not the same player he is now, he had to improve his shooting, his passing and his movement. I saw games as early as 2003/2004 where Patrick Vieira totally outshone Frank Lampard. Alas this is just an example.

Of course its your opinion to believe that Arsenal have no future, but to believe that players like Fabregas, Eboue, Djourou, Sendaros, Walcott, Van Persie, Clichy and Diaby will show no improvement from 17-23 onwards is just naive imo. Thats not even naming 6 of our strongest players who are all under 30.

Compare the ages between this Arsenal squad and the Chelsea squad dude, that IMO is the difference. With age it will bring experience, consistency and a basic improvment froma tactical and technical point of view. Sorry if that was too long but I just couldnt agree with you there at all

Arsehole Whinger

:rofl:

Of course its your opinion to believe that Arsenal have no future, but to believe that players like Fabregas, Eboue, Djourou, Sendaros, Walcott, Van Persie, Clichy and Diaby will show no improvement from 17-23 onwards is just naive imo. Thats not even naming 6 of our strongest players who are all under 30.

That's a very good point, even i believe that Fabregas, Flamini and Van Persie will be pretty big stars in the future.

I don't think it'd be a problem if Chelsea didn't buy every player under the sun. No other team has a problem with the reserve league. Didn't you have like 14 "First team" midfielders at one point? At one point last year Birmingham had a 14. man SQUAD.

What the **** Liverpool has 31 regulars, they got a bigger squad than Chelsea in fact Chelsea got a pretty small squad compared to some teams in EPL.

Having a B team in the Championship wouldn't be so bad. I think Wenger would like that idea as well as he wouldn't have to loan out his players.

And pede. You're really obsessed with Arsenal. You can't type one message without mentionning them. You got issues.

We shall see. Chelsea despite the millions spent on their team have a core of players in their prime and adapted to this league who at least spent a few years getting better and better, Lampard and Terry for example spent years in the shadow of Arsenal and Manchester united before finally getting the mental strength and power to be the players they are now. When people talk of improvement and players maturing- then you look at these players as examples. Lampard 3 or 4 years ago was not the same player he is now, he had to improve his shooting, his passing and his movement. I saw games as early as 2003/2004 where Patrick Vieira totally outshone Frank Lampard. Alas this is just an example.

Of course its your opinion to believe that Arsenal have no future, but to believe that players like Fabregas, Eboue, Djourou, Sendaros, Walcott, Van Persie, Clichy and Diaby will show no improvement from 17-23 onwards is just naive imo. Thats not even naming 6 of our strongest players who are all under 30.

Compare the ages between this Arsenal squad and the Chelsea squad dude, that IMO is the difference. With age it will bring experience, consistency and a basic improvment froma tactical and technical point of view. Sorry if that was too long but I just couldnt agree with you there at all

thank m8

No son....Arsenal fans think it but nobody else does.

The idea about putting a B team in the Championship, is something that already exists in Spain, but seeing as you diss Chelsea at every opportunity, I wouldn't expect a numbskull like you to think that deeply. It has nothing to do with Arsehole Whinger or Arsenal. Why the fu<k would ANY team be worried about Arsenal. You are surviving on Wengers empty promises. Arsenal's time has come and gone so get used to it mate. There is no golden future so get used to the idea and face reality.

Im no son off chelsea fan di*k. Yes arsenal have been average this season. And yes no team would be worried let. But come couple years it could be different.
Chelsea have been the usaully But again If you didnt have Lampard and Drogba you would be no better than us. Reality m8 is Chelsea 30+ Club.
Plus your F*$ken rich superstar could only get 1-1 draw, Against YOUNG 20 year olds.
I cnt wait for tht time tht those chelsea players pass their used by date, Then we will see how good the "special One" is.
And just because it in Spain doesnt mean the Premier league should follow.

It a offical Pede54 has "NO Idea" About good youths Because he has not seen any well not at the bridge anyway.

Wat do Henry :Bow: ,Vieira, Anelka in common started as Henry who Vieira who. Both World Class.Anelka was World class.
Wat do Fab,RVP,Toure, Djourou,Clichy,Walcott,Eboue,Flamini,Diaby have in common with the Henry, Vieira SAME MANAGER :Bow: :clapwap:

i seriously hope this doesnt happen. put a cap would just restrict the talent from abroad from coming over to england to an extent which we are used to seeing.

if this is passed. it would be unfair !

We shall see. Chelsea despite the millions spent on their team have a core of players in their prime and adapted to this league who at least spent a few years getting better and better, Lampard and Terry for example spent years in the shadow of Arsenal and Manchester united before finally getting the mental strength and power to be the players they are now. When people talk of improvement and players maturing- then you look at these players as examples. Lampard 3 or 4 years ago was not the same player he is now, he had to improve his shooting, his passing and his movement. I saw games as early as 2003/2004 where Patrick Vieira totally outshone Frank Lampard. Alas this is just an example.

Of course its your opinion to believe that Arsenal have no future, but to believe that players like Fabregas, Eboue, Djourou, Sendaros, Walcott, Van Persie, Clichy and Diaby will show no improvement from 17-23 onwards is just naive imo. Thats not even naming 6 of our strongest players who are all under 30.

Compare the ages between this Arsenal squad and the Chelsea squad dude, that IMO is the difference. With age it will bring experience, consistency and a basic improvment froma tactical and technical point of view. Sorry if that was too long but I just couldnt agree with you there at all

First off. Of course I agree with most of what you have said. My post was simply to wind up fanboy messi-walcott which, judging by his last two posts, seemed to have worked a treat.
Bit surprised that you took the bait ogsimon but still, a good post but mostly nothing that I wasn't already aware of mate.

bigP...when talking with an Arsenal "fan", then Arsenal will invariably be brought into the conversation mate. Thats not too hard to work out is it? Although I admit I do have issues with Arsenal. Thats something I have never denied at all. I just hate that fu<king club from the top downwards.

Check out the ages of our squad players and you will see that the philosophy concerning Chelsea's future stars regarding age is groundless. Look at our Academy players AND the players loaned out to various clubs, and you will see that the future of Chelsea is being taken care of.

Well just 4 you i would like chelsea to win the premier they have been alot more attacking minded this year which is good. Even thought J.cole, Robben havnt started games.
Yes i have it in for chelsea. But only because they are different, money and success.

Well just 4 you i would like chelsea to win the premier they have been alot more attacking minded this year which is good. Even thought J.cole, Robben havnt started games.
Yes i have it in for chelsea. But only because they are different, money and success.


Well thats honest at least mate, so fair play to you for that.

But look at the successful teams past and present.....They have all had money which has led to success. At one time Man U and Liverpool, for example, were the richest clubs in England and they were the most successful clubs in England too. That is not just a coincidence.

Chelsea are no different in that respect. Of course we have broken through the "Rich as Fu<k" barrier like nobody has before, but relatively speaking that only puts us in the position that Man U or Liverpool were once in. So, nothing has changed at all except now WE are the richest club.

When I was a kid i used to wish that Chelsea were as rich as Man U. As I got older I watched them dominate the transfer market. I watched them buy all the best talent around and those players could not wait to go Man U. Man U paid the highest wages to players and therefore the best players were easily lured to Manchester by that. I never hated Man U for all of that though. I thought they were fortunate and I was simply envious of their wealth. Man U have ALWAYS been a rich club and without that wealth they would probably not have the amount of trophies and achievements that they have got. The same can be said of Liverpool too.

Forget about the stupid, juvenile and irrelevant argument about WHERE the money comes from. The fact is this, with wealth, the advantage a club has towards success is vastly multiplied. Not guarranteed of course but made a hell of a lot easier than for a club with no money.

You might think (wrongly) that Arsenal are actually NOT a rich club. They are, and if you compare their finances to a club like Porto for instance, then all of a sudden Arsenal become one of the richest clubs in Europe. You dont hear Porto fans whinging about how rich Arsenal are. You dont hear anyone whinging about another clubs money throughout most of Europe.

Only in England where all of a sudden Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal became no longer dominant in the league have so many fans whinged about another clubs money, and no fanbase is more gutted by Chelsea money than Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal. That is NOT a coincidence either.

Happy Christmas messi - walcott. Your team were awesome today by the way :D

WE are the richest club.


you sure about that, pede?

I'll check out our accounts tommorrow mate and then I'll know for sure ;)

Abramovich's current accounts and the ones that his wife will get soon don't count though :jap:

No son....Arsenal fans think it but nobody else does.

The idea about putting a B team in the Championship, is something that already exists in Spain, but seeing as you diss Chelsea at every opportunity, I wouldn't expect a numbskull like you to think that deeply. It has nothing to do with Arsehole Whinger or Arsenal. Why the fu<k would ANY team be worried about Arsenal. You are surviving on Wengers empty promises. Arsenal's time has come and gone so get used to it mate. There is no golden future so get used to the idea and face reality.

What time did Arsenal have. APart from a few FA cups and 2 or 3 league titles and oh a 49 game unbeaten run 7 more than Nottingham Forest. They played second fiddle to us (United). Their last era of dominance was maybe part of the 80's and before than Liverpool. But that time has come to a halt for now. They need a bit of experience and some big game players. WHy sell Kanu and let Vieira and Campbell leave.

A B team in the championship. Looking at the standard of the Championship i would say the B team may struggle unless the players are really good. Championship is the most competitive second division in Europe and the standard is really good at times. Theres no one that wants midtable. Everyone is fighting it out for promotion.

Abramovich's current accounts and the ones that his wife will get soon don't count though :jap:


spot on maximus.