Mexico

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Nickname: El Tri (El Tricolor)

Federation: Association Federación Mexicana de Fútbol Asociación

Head coach: Hugo Sánchez

Captain: Rafael Márquez

Most caps: Claudio Suárez (178)

Top scorer: Jared Borgetti (37)

FIFA code: MEX

FIFA ranking: 21 (currently, changes every month)

Highest FIFA ranking: 4 (May 2006)

Lowest FIFA ranking: 20 (November 2006)

The Mexico national football team — El Tri — is the national football team of Mexico and is controlled by the Federación Mexicana de Fútbol (FEMEXFUT). The team is currently in 20th place, and has never been outside the top 20, in the FIFA World Rankings.

Since the 1990s, Mexico has been one of the most consistent nations in the world having qualified for four straight World Cups, and reaching the second round on all four occasions. They have also had strong showings in the Copa America ever since their first invitation from the CONMEBOL in 1993 (although they are under the jurisdiction of CONCACAF).

History

Origins to 1990

Mexico participated in the first World Cup in 1930 but did not appear again in the tournament until 1950. Mexico qualified for six consecutive World Cups including the hosting of the 1970 tournament.

Before 1970 Mexico struggled to make much impact in the World Cup when compared to European and South American teams and won only once in five tournaments (in 1962, a 3-1 win over Czechoslovakia). Goalkeeper Antonio Carbajal had the distinction of being the first player ever to appear in five consecutive World Cups. Midfielder Salvador Reyes played in the 1958, 1962 and 1966 tournaments.

In 1970, Mexico was able to make a breakthrough. Hosts for the tournament, they kicked off with a scoreless draw against the Soviet Union, followed by wins over El Salvador (4-0) and Belgium (1-0). Against Italy in the quarter-finals, they took the lead before going down 4-1.

Mexico was disqualified from the 1990 qualifiers due to fielding an overage player in the CONCACAF Olympic qualifying youth tournament for 1988 Summer Olympics in Guatemala, but have since qualified for four consecutive World Cups.

Recent years

In the 1990s, Mexican football began experiencing more consistent international success. An important turning point was its participation in the 1993 Copa America, where they surprised many by finishing second in the tournament in only their first appearance, narrowly losing to Argentina 2-1 in the final. Bouyed by this success, Mexico went on to win its group in the 1994 World Cup, emerging from the tournament's "Group of Death" composed of itself, Italy, Ireland, and Norway. Although Mexico eventually bowed out in Round 2 to Bulgaria, this performance began a string of successful showings at football's premier event, as the team also moved on to Round 2 in the each of the Cups of 1998, 2002, 2006.

Since their second place finish in the 1993 Copa America, Mexico has been a regular participant in the South American tournament and has fared very well. It earned third place in 1997 and 1999 and another second place in 2001. In fact, Mexico has never failed to reach the quarter finals of the Copa America and twice has had the leading scorer in the tournament, Luis Garcia in 1995 (sharing the title with Arge. striker, Gabriel Batistuta) and Luis Hernández in 1997. The amazing growth and success of the national team during the 1990s reached its zenith when Mexico hosted and won the 1999 FIFA Confederations Cup. Mexico won its first official FIFA tournament trophy by beating Brazil, no less, in an exciting high-scoring final with a final score of 4-3. Mexico's star, Cuauhtémoc Blanco, shares the tournament's Golden Shoe award as top scorer with Brazilian player, Ronaldinho.

In the 2000s, the u.s have proved a credible challenger to Mexico's dominance on the continental football scene, winning the 2002 Gold Cup and disqualifying Mexico from Round 2 in 2002 FIFA World Cup. Despite the disappointing loss, Mexico again hosted the Gold Cup in 2003. In addition, Mexico exacted their revenge on the u.s. by eliminating them during their qualification run to the 2004 Summer Olympics. In the 2005 Gold Cup tournament, however, Mexico suffered a disappointing early exit, as they were eliminated by guests Colombia in the quarterfinals on a goal with less than fifteen minutes to play.

The parallel emergence of the u.s. and Mexico on the international stage has helped elevate the status of the CONCACAF region. More importantly, however, it has provided a natural rivalry that has benefited the development both national teams. In fact, Mexico and the u.s. ran neck and neck during qualification for the 2006 World Cup. Mexico beat the u.s. 2-1 in Mexico City on March 27, 2005. The Americans then returned the favor by defeating Mexico 2-0 in columbus, OH on September 3, 2005 thus earning their place in Germany before their archrivals. Nevertheless, Mexico secured their place in the World Cup four days later with a 5-0 defeat of Panama in Mexico City. Ultimately, the two nations finished the qualification campaign with an identical 7-1-2 record — the Americans held a slight advantage in goal differential in the games between both teams.

The participation of the Mexican national team in the 2005 FIFA Confederations Cup confirmed Mexico as a rising football power. Mexico began the tournament by defeating defending World Cup Champions Brazil by a score of 1-0 with an impressive display of tactical intelligence and discipline. Mexico garnered further accolades with impressive performances against traditional heavyweights arge. and Germany. Although Mexico was leading arge. in extra time of their semifinal match, they ultimately lost in a highly contested penalty shootout, 6-5. In the third place match, Mexico twice came from behind against Germany, eventually losing 4-3 in extra time.

The notable growth experienced by the Mexican national team since the early 1990s could arguably be attributed to the increased competitiveness of its domestic league, the Primera División de México. Due in large part to lucrative television contracts, Mexican football clubs are amongst the richest outside of Europe. This has made Mexico an attractive destination for many quality international players, in particular from South and Central America. In addition, Mexican clubs have done very well in international tournaments such as CONMEBOL's Copa Libertadores. In fact, in four of the last six editions of the tournament, a Mexican club has finished among the top four, including Cruz Azul's second place finish in 2001. The influx of high level foreign players, together with increased participation in international tournaments has helped compensate somewhat for the fact that traditionally, Mexican players have not sought opportunities in other countries. Still, a few Mexican players have enjoyed distinguished careers in European leagues, notably Hugo Sánchez with Atlético Madrid and Real Madrid in the 1980s and 1990s and more recently Rafael Márquez, who won a title with France's AS Monaco and is currently a key member of the two-time defending La Liga champion and current UEFA Champions League winner FC Barcelona and with Francisco Fonseca of SL Benfica being what many consider the two best players in Mexico's squad.

Further evidence of Mexico's bright football future is the title obtained by the national team in the Under-17 World Cup held in Peru in the 2005 Under-17 World Cup. A crop of emerging Mexican stars, including Giovanni Dos Santos and Carlos Vela, defeated reigning champion Brazil by an emphatic score of 3-0, thus claiming the first FIFA Youth World Championship for the North American continent (and CONCACAF).

After Germany 2006, El Tri has become one of the most regular teams in the world stage, having secured their passage to Round 2 in the last four World Cups. However, the goal of reaching the latter stages of the tournament, and thus equal or surpass their best showings when they reached the quarterfinals of the 1970 and 1986 tournaments on home soil.

2006 World Cup

Mexico played a series of friendlies in preparation for the World Cup in the u.s., seeking to maximise revenue by appealing to Mexicans living in the u.s.

Mexico was one of eight top seeded teams in the first round at the 2006 FIFA World Cup in Germany. This was the first time a non-hosting CONCACAF nation was seeded. They were put in group D with Iran, Angola and Portugal.

Mexico won their opening match 3-1 against Iran, with two goals from Omar Bravo and one by Antonio Naelson. In their second match, Mexico played in a 0-0 draw match against Angola. Mexico joined Portugal as a qualifier in the Round of 16, despite losing to the Portuguese 2-1. During the match, Mexican striker, Omar Bravo missed a penalty shot.

In their final match of the tournament, Mexico played against arge. The Mexicans scored in the 5th minute with a goal by captain Rafael Márquez. Four minutes later, an own-goal by an injured Jared Borgetti allowed arge. to equalize. The score remained 1-1 after 90 minutes, and in extra time, an exceptional volley by Maxi Rodríguez in the second period of extra time brought about a 2-1 win for arge.

Arge.-born coach Ricardo Lavolpe stepped down as coach after the tournament.

After 144 days since Lavolpe stepped down, Hugo Sánchez was named the new head coach against other candidates, such as Américo Gallego and Luis Fernando Tena.

International Competiton Records

FIFA World Cup

1930 - Round 1
1934 - Did Not Qualify
1938 - Withdrew
1950 - Round 1
1954 - Round 1
1958 - Round 1
1962 - Round 1
1966 - Round 1
1970 - Quarterfinals
1974 - Did Not Qualify
1978 - Round 1
1982 - Did Not Qualify
1986 - Quarterfinals
1990 - Disqualified
1994 - Round 2
1998 - Round 2
2002 - Round 2
2006 - Round 2

FIFA U-20 World Cup

1977 - Second Place
1997 - Round 2
1999 - Quarter Finals
2001 - Did Not Qualify
2003 - Round 1
2005 - Did Not Qualify

FIFA U-17 World Cup

1985 - Disqualified
1987 - Round 1
1989 - Round 1
1991 - Round 1
1993 - Round 1
1995 - Did Not Qualify
1997 - Round 1
1999 - Quarter Finals
2005 - Did Not Qualify
2003 - Quarter Finals
2005 - Champions

CONCACAF Gold Cup

1991 - Third place
1993 - Champions
1996 - Champions
1998 - Champions
2000 - Quarterfinals
2002 - Quarterfinals
2003 - Champions
2005 - Quarterfinals

CONMEBOL Copa América

1993 - Second place
1995 - Quarterfinals
1997 - Third place
1999 - Third place
2001 - Second place
2004 - Quarterfinals

FIFA Confederations Cup

1992 - Did Not Qualify
1995 - Third place
1997 - Round 1
1999 - Champions
2001 - Round 1
2003 - Did Not Qualify
2005 - Fourth place

First List of Players called up by Hugo Sanchez:

Goalies:

Oswaldo Sánchez (Santos)
Sergio Bernal (Pumas)
José de Jesús Corona (Tecos)
Moisés Muñoz (Morelia)

Defense:

Diego Martínez (Guadalajara)
Israel Castro (Pumas)
Joaquín Beltrán (Necaxa)
Francisco Rodríguez (Guadalajara)
Jonny Magallón (Guadalajara)
Joel Huiqui (Cruz Azul)
Jaime Lozano (Tigres)
Fausto Pinto (Pachuca)

Midfielders:

Alberto Medina (Guadalajara)
Juan Carlos Esquivel (Toluca)
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
Jaime Correa (Pachuca)
Israel López (Cruz Azul)
Gonzalo Pineda (Guadalajara)
Gerardo Galindo (Necaxa)
Luis Pérez (Monterrey)
Ramón Morales (Guadalajara)
Andrés Guardado (Atlas)

Strikers:

Jared Borgetti (Cruz Azul)
Omar Bravo (Guadalajara)
Adolfo Bautista (Guadalajara)
Francisco Fonseca (Tigres)

what a crappy list imo ; i freaking knew hugo was going to call up all his old camotes hehe; the only guys i like in that list is the pachuca guys and magallon.

Crazy 26:

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You got Carlos Vela coming up, he's the mutts nuts.

just wondering if Mexico will take part in the Concacaf Gold Cup & Copa America 2007 this summer ??

just wondering if Mexico will take part in the Concacaf Gold Cup & Copa America 2007 this summer ??oh fo-sho.

Esquivel and Correa really earned their call-up. Atlas has some real good talent, I'm surprised "el negro" Medina didn't make it. I'm sure he will, he began the Clausura in top shape. (Y)

possibly new kit for Mexico by Adidas....

LOCAL
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VISITA
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Official List of Mexican National Team for match against u.s.

GK: Oswaldo Sanchez , Memo Ochoa , Sergio Bernal

DF: Osorio, Israel Castro, Salcido, Maza, Marquez, Ramoncito, Jimmy Lozano, Joaquin Beltran

MD: Alberto Medina, Torrado, Pardo, Guardado, Gerry Galindo, Nery Castillo

ST: Borgetti, Bravo, Bofo, Kikin, Blanco

------------Oswaldo
-Castro-Marquez-Salcido-Guardado
----------Pardo--Lozano
---Medina---------------Castillo
----------Blanco--Bofo/Borgetti

Mexico kit according to RECORD: Mexican Sports Newspaper

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Mexico

home
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http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/600/642500.WH.JPGhttp://www.soccer.com/images/catalog/productimages/300/642500.RE09.JPG

away
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Mexico 0

u.s. 2

Final: bad debut for Hugo Sanchez....

Mexico will be in group 2 of Copa America with Brazil. tomorrow other 2 teams will be sorted from rest of teams.

link: http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=33485

List of Players called up for match against Venezuela, Feb 28th:

Guillermo Ochoa----------Portero------América

José Antonio Castro-----Defensa-----América

Cuauhtémoc Blanco-----Medio--------América

Manuel Pérez--------------Medio--------Atlas

Juan Carlos Medina------ Medio--------Atlas

Andrés Guardado---------Medio--------Atlas

Johnny Magallón----------Defensa-----Chivas

Ramón Morales------------Medio--------Chivas

Joel Huiqui------------------Defensa-----Cruz Azul

Gerardo Torrado----------Medio--------Cruz Azul

Israel López----------------Medio---------Cruz Azul

Fernando Arce------------Medio--------Morelia

Joaquín Beltrán------------Defensa-----Necaxa

Gerardo Galindo-----------Medio--------Necaxa

Fausto Pinto---------------Defensa------Pachuca

Juan Carlos Cacho--------Delantero---Pachuca

Sergio Bernal---------------Portero-----Pumas

Israel Castro----------------Defensa-----Pumas

Francisco Palencia---------Delantero---Pumas

José de Jesús Corona---Portero------Tecos

Francisco Fonseca--------Delantero----Tigres

Emilio Hassan Viades-----Defensa------Toluca

Carlos Morales--------------Medio--------Toluca

Damn, what's up w/ all the comotion in this thread?

I'm about to bounce to the game, the Q is only 2 maybe 3 miles away. No ticket, no worries. I got my flag that's all I need.

(8)Mexicanos, al grito de guerra
El acero aprestad y el bridón;
y retiemble en sus centros la tierra
Al sonoro rugir del cañón...(8) (H)

It's been a while since I've seen them live.

Mexico 3

Venezuela 1

FINAL

G: Guardado, Arce, and Blanco

MOM: Guardado

"The also stadium hosts an annual international soccer match most years, which includes Mexico as one side. On 28 February 2007, the stadium set an all-time attendance record for any soccer match in San Diego, when Hugo Sanchez, formerly of the NASL San Diego Sockers and now the head coach of Mexico, "came home" to face Venezuela, whom they soundly defeated 3-1.[1] - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Stadium

You can say 'the people' came out. :mexican:

Official List for Upcoming Friendly Matches:

link: http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=35299

Porteros

Francisco Guillermo Ochoa
José de Jesús Corona
Óscar Pérez

Defensas

Rafael Márquez
Carlos Salcido
Ricardo Osorio
Joaquín Beltrán
Francisco Javier Rodríguez
Israel Castro
José Antonio Castro
Johnny Magallón
Ramón Morales

Mediocampistas

Gerardo Galindo
Gerardo Torrado
Pavel Pardo
Andrés Guardado
Gonzalo Pineda
Israel López
Fernando Arce
Ramón Morales
Alberto Medina

Delanteros

Francisco Fonseca
Nery Castillo
Adolfo Bautista
Omar Bravo
Jared Borgetti
Francisco Palencia

Paraguay's list for Friendly match on Saturday in Monterrey....

- ARQUEROS: Aldo Bobadilla (Boca Juniors, ARG) y Justo Villar (Newell's, ARG)

- DEFENSORES: Paulo Da Silva (Toluca, MEX), Denis Caniza (Atlas, MEX), Claudio Morel Rodríguez (Boca Juniors, ARG), Julio César Cáceres (Tigres, MEX), Darío Verón (Pumas, MEX) y Rubén Maldonado (Nápoli, ITA).

- CENTROCAMPISTAS: Pedro Chávez (Guaraní), Carlos Bonet (Libertad), Enrique Vera (Liga Deportiva Universitaria, ECU), Édgar González (Cerro Porteño), Cristian Riveros (Libertad), Aureliano Torres (San Lorenzo, ARG), Delio Toledo (Kayserispor, TUR), Edgar Barreto (Nec Nimega, NED), Carlos Paredes (Sporting de Lisboa, POR) y José Montiel (Udinese, ITA).

- DELANTEROS: Salvador Cabañas (América, MEX), Nelson Haedo (Borussia Dortmund, GER), Edison Giménez (Colo Colo, CHI) y Roque Santa Cruz (Bayern Munich, GER).

Mexico 2

Paraguay 1

G - Borgetti 2x / MoM: Ricardo Osorio

Mexico 4

Ecuador 2

G - Palencia, Marquez, Bravo, and Bofo / MoM = Bofo Bautista

MoM = Bofo BautistaIndeed.

Ochoa man, he really needs to work on coming out from the box. :boohoo:

-------------Ochoa
-Osorio-Marquez-Salcido-??????
-Medina--Pardo-Pineda--Guardado
---------Bravo--??????

That's what I want for Copa America, sort of.

I think Bofo should be a starter to, and Magallon is a good promise, this would be the best agressive formation,i like it very much, it has been the most creative team even without a natural stricker like borgetti, but i doubt hugo is goign to use this fomration at the begining he is going to start with a little more defensive style, like playin with torrado and PArdo together

Ochoa
-Osorio-Marquez-Salcido-Guardado

Pardo
Medina Pineda
Bautista

Bravo

found it, thanks Mark....

Today: Friendly Match

Mexico vs Iran

at Estadio Lastras or San Luis . . . .

debut of Nery Castillo in birth city.

Mexico 4

Iran 0

G - Borgetti, Kikin, Jimmy, and Torrado

Good debut by Nery Castillo and MoM: Andres Guardado . . . .

Man, im so excited with this NT, we have a lot of talented players, i hope they dont disappoint us again, i dont remember another NT qith this quality in my lifetime

RATINGS:

Ochoa - 7 casi no trabajo

Castro - 6 por que nunca le ense^aron a centrar

Magallon - 8 este debe ser la pareja de Marquez

Maza - 5 le pesa la verde mas que la de rayas

Ramoncito - 6 a la banca

Torrado - 9 anda en gran momento, el unico rescatable del Cruz Azul

Jimmy - 7 ay va, pero tambien banca

Arce - 7.5 parece que puede pelearle el puesto al Venado

Guardado - 10 inche directiva del Atlas dejen que vuele como dice Pavel

Nery - 8 le falta, incluso creo que es mas veloz que el Venado y con mucha mas tecnica, que facilidad de disparo tiene

Jared - 7 metio su gol pero no hizo mucho mas

cambios: Salcido , Kikin , Corona, Bofo, Castro....

Hey all, quick question. Did Mexico score from half-field against Iran yesterday? My friend says they did but I checked out the highlights and the farthest out I saw was just outside the 18. Did I miss something through the bad picture quality or is he making stuff up?

Magallon - 8 este debe ser la pareja de Marquez haha, Magallon is solid but either Osorio or Salcido should partner Rafa, there really shouldn't even be a question about that.
Hey all, quick question. Did Mexico score from half-field against Iran yesterday? My friend says they did but I checked out the highlights and the farthest out I saw was just outside the 18. Did I miss something through the bad picture quality or is he making stuff up? Nah man, your friend just made it up.

Hey all, quick question. Did Mexico score from half-field against Iran yesterday? My friend says they did but I checked out the highlights and the farthest out I saw was just outside the 18. Did I miss something through the bad picture quality or is he making stuff up?

he probably meant Torrado's but it was actually a lob just outside the goal box. think your friend needs to get his eyes checked, lol....:mexican:

TODAY:

Mexico vs Paraguay in Legendary Estadio Azteca

Hugo said there should be 5-6 changes from the squad that faced Iran, we'll probably see Oswaldo, Bravo, Osorio, Pardo and Cuauh from the start. It's gonna be Cuauh's goodbye from Estadio Azteca also which should make for a very interesting match for the fans who should fill the stadium up, if possible.

Like Mau said, I've never been so exited over our NT with this many talented players since probably the '94 WC squad. We finally have talent in Europe and the number of players playing overseas should grow after this summer.

Paraguay 1

Mexico 0

FINAL: Cardozo

below avg. game. Mexico looked lost and once again the only one who is safe is Andres Guardado....

My rendition of the mexican national teams kit, the reason i did this is that i hate they're home kits the color green is like a blue green and it pisses me off, plus i was bored
hope you like them. Also it says leonardinho on the bottom because thats my name on the soccer fans network forums, but trust me i did them.

oh and i know they're with adidas, but it looks better with nike.

home
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away
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i like the away one but the home kit needs more work and you need the dark green home jersey cause thats just a classic....

Mexico 2

Cuba 1

FINAL: Borgetti n Nery

MoM: Pavel Pardo....

Terrible match, Nery Borgetti and BLanco should start always as our offence

Kikin and Borgetti at the same time?, it like putting 2 loigs in a river, we need only one an i think Borgetti is muhc better

RATINGS:

Ochoa - 7 / no mucho trabajo pero tal vez pudo haber echo mas en el gol

Gringo - 5 / cuando, cuando, cuando

Maza - 6 / no puede ser titular

Magallon - 7 / regular

Lozano - 5.5 / casi no se le vio

Pardo - 6.5 / se ve cansado y lento

Arce - 6 / muy intermitente

Guardado - 6.5 / algunas buenas jugadas pero casi no participo

Bofo - 3 / muy mal perdia todos los balones y exagera en jugar como crack cada balon que toca

Nery - 7.5 / luchon, rapido, pero le falta entenderse mas

Borgetti - 6 / no hizo mucho, no mas el gol

CAMBIOS:

Kikin - 7 / mucha lucha, corazon, causo peligro, y hizo mas que el bofo en menos tiempo

Salcido - n/a pero entro como sobrado y no me gusto por que siempre me cayo bien Ironman por ser humilde.
pero espero estar mal. incluso no creo que toco el balon.

Torrado - n/a

EGO SANCHEZ: 2 / mal alineacion, quienes son los titulares?,
ya no es tiempo de experimentar....

Mexico 1

Honduras 2

FINAL: Blanco , who also got a red card for a stupid childish aggresion.

Hugo Sanchez was not ready for the national team....

Mexico 1

Panama 0

FINAL: Salcido who for me was also MoM....

That could be a draw but guy from Panama hit in the post.

Mexico has not been playing well in this Gold Cup, hopefully they get their act together 'cause they have a pretty tough opponent on Saturday!

Mexico 1

Costa Rica 0

FINAL: Borgetti / MoM: Torrado

I'm a Mexican citizen but I have to say Mexican soccer has never impressed me. Despite their reputation, love for the game, and massive population, their national team has never performed well. They've hosted two world cups and never made it past the quarter-finals. Now they can't even compete with the US national team. They don't even have that many players on their NT playing in the top leagues in Europe. If I remember correctly Marquez was the only player in their 2006 WC squad playing outside of Mexico. The only thing Mexico has ever done is beat up on weak CONCACAF teams and see their FIFA rating soar way too high because of it. And the Gold Cup is showing that they can't even do that anymore. At the very least they should've stuck with La Volpe. He was a good manager.

SEMI:

Mexico 1

Guadalupe 0

FINAL: Pardo who was also MoM


2007 GOLD CUP FINAL:

MEXICO v.s. usa

I'm a Mexican citizen but I have to say Mexican soccer has never impressed me. Despite their reputation, love for the game, and massive population, their national team has never performed well. They've hosted two world cups and never made it past the quarter-finals. Now they can't even compete with the US national team. They don't even have that many players on their NT playing in the top leagues in Europe. If I remember correctly Marquez was the only player in their 2006 WC squad playing outside of Mexico. The only thing Mexico has ever done is beat up on weak CONCACAF teams and see their FIFA rating soar way too high because of it. And the Gold Cup is showing that they can't even do that anymore. At the very least they should've stuck with La Volpe. He was a good manager.

interesting signature but either way i will post my response.:mexican:

first im a Chicano which means American of Mexican descent and proud of it.

Mexican soccer not impressing you is your opinion but I can say the same

about MLS which I do not even consider a league cause there is no

relegation or promotion and only 13 teams. I beg to differ in that Mexican

team can't compete because yes the u.s has defeated Mexico in the most

recent matches but they have all been in the u.s territory. Simple fact is u.s

has never defeated Mexico in Mexican soil and well Mexico has defeated the

u.s many times in the u.s. In 2006 Mexico only had one player in Europe but

now in the present there are 5 in Europe. Marquez with Barcelona who

will probably be transfered to A.C. Milan, Pavel Pardo and Ricardo

Osorio with Vfb Stuttgart both starters for their team, Champions of

Bundesliga and 2nd Place in League Cup, Pardo voted as 3rd best player in all

of Bundesliga according to kicker.de (most famous German soccer

newspaper) and may I add all of this in their 1st season, Carlos Salcido

with PSV Eindhoven also Champion Dutch League and Finally Nery

Castillo Champion with Olympiakos. There also Giovanni Dos Santos

in Barca B but will be moved 1st Barcelona team for 07/08 season and

Carlos Vela who is property of Arsenal but can't play in EPL because of

British sporting laws. It is not Mexico's fault that they are located in the

CONCACAF the weakest zone globally in football but so is the u.s so both

beat on weak Concacaf teams. Maybe you did not see 2006 Confederations

Cup so i'll refresh your memory Mexico defeated Brazil 1 - 0 with all of their

star players except Ronaldo. Only thing I agree with you is that they should

have stuck with Lavolpe but that was never going to happen. but instead of

Hugo Mexican Federation should have hired a world famous coach....

List of Players for Copa America:

Oswaldo Sánchez (1) Portero Santos

Guillermo Ochoa (13) Portero América

Johnny Magallón (2) Defensa Chivas

Fco. Javier Rodríguez (22) Defensa Chivas

Rafael Márquez (4) Defensa Barcelona

Gonzalo Pineda (14) Defensa Chivas

Israel Castro (5) Defensa Pumas

José Antonio Castro (15) Defensa América


Fausto Pinto (3) Defensa Pachuca

Jaime Lozano (16) Medio Tigres

Jaime Correa (8) Medio Pachuca

Ramón Morales (11) Medio Chivas

Gerardo Torrado (6) Medio Cruz Azul

Alberto Medina (7) Medio Chivas

Fernando Arce (20) Delantero Morelia

Andrés Guardado (18) Medio Atlas

Juan Carlos Cacho (12) Delantero Pachuca

Nery Castillo (21) Delantero Olympiakos

Cuauhtémoc Blanco (10) Delantero América

Adolfo Bautista (17) Delantero Chivas

Jared Borgetti (9) Delantero Cruz Azul

Omar Bravo (19) Delantero Chivas

Mexico 1

us 2

FINAL: MoM - Nery Castillo

Seems Borgetti is out for Copa America lets hope Hugo calls Kikin Fonseca....

Great game Mexico. I didn't like some of Hugo's comments at the end of the game (the penalty was beyond accurate), but the players on the field for you are very good. I am not excited about going against Castillo, Guardado, and Vela for the next 10 years. It was also the most sporting game from either side I have seen in this rivalry. There were no intentionally violent incidents from either team, which was refreshing.

How long has the Mexican league been around? MLS has been around for 11 seasons and is the professional league of a sport which isn't in America's top five. How can you expect it to be any good? As for the leagues, we have two or three player development leagues below the MLS, we just don't have relegation because it is not part of the American sports tradition. But in comparing the two leagues I don't think there is much difference in the level of play. We'll see once they set up the CL style tournament with US and Mexican teams, but the MLS teams have played well in exhibition matches against Mexican teams.

As for the national team, the US routinely beats Mexico now. They struggle playing in Mexico City, but the pollution and climate there is absolutely stifling for the Americans because of what they're used to. It may be a while before we're consistently successful on Mexican soil, but also keep in mind that our NT couldn't qualify for a world cup until the 90's. We're pretty new to this and our professional league started recently.

As for the Mexican side, yes, you do have 5 players in Europe now. But can you really count the Greek league? It's probably no better than the Mexican league or MLS. The Bundesliga isn't good any more either, neither is the Eredivisie. The problem is you only have one (possibly two) playing in one of the big three (la liga, serie a, premiership). The USMT has several, including Howard, Hanneman, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Convey, Beasley, Dempsey, etc.

Yes, you did beat Brazil in the Confederations Cup, and yes, they had most of their stars in, but we all know that it's not a prestigious tournament. But is that all you have to show for the Mexican side? All of those world cups they've been to, and their greatest achievement was a Confederations Cup game?

It's not that I don't think the Mexican NT is good, I just don't think it's good when you consider it's circumstances. Mexican is a huge country with a large population that loves the sport just as any other Latin country does. But historically, they can't even compare to a nation like Argentina or Brazil. Because of CONCACAF they make every world cup, but they've never even made it to the semi-finals. The US has been there. I just think that a country with Mexico's population and its passion for the game should have a national team that's won at least a few world cups. Mexico's population is almost three times Argentina's and the game is just as popular in both places. So why does Argentina have two world cups and Mexico has never even been to the semi finals (despite hosting 2 world cups)?

And if we were to compare Mexico to European national teams, their performance is embarrassing considering their population. Holland's been to two finals and their population is only 16 million (Mexico is 109 million).

You can't use the same argument against the USA though. It's expected for the USNT to not be any good because of how unpopular soccer is here. If it were the number one sport and our team was as good as we are now, it would be pathetic. But despite soccer not being a mainstream sport (all of our good athletes play football or basketball), our NT is still pretty good.

1st Round Copa America:

Mexico 2

Brazil 0

FINAL: Nery n Ramoncito / MoM: Nery Castillo

Perfect timing. However, that was pretty much Brazil's C squad, and it's just the Copa America.

Thanks for your two cents. They're very much appreciated.

How long has the Mexican league been around? MLS has been around for 11 seasons and is the professional league of a sport which isn't in America's top five. How can you expect it to be any good? As for the leagues, we have two or three player development leagues below the MLS, we just don't have relegation because it is not part of the American sports tradition. But in comparing the two leagues I don't think there is much difference in the level of play. We'll see once they set up the CL style tournament with US and Mexican teams, but the MLS teams have played well in exhibition matches against Mexican teams.

There's not a "much difference" in level of play?
MLS team have played well in exhibition matches against Mexican teams?

How many times has an MLS team won over a Mexican team?
Let's take the Concacaf Champions Cup as a place to compare the MLS and the FMF:

-MLS teams have 9 victories 4 Draws and 15 losses against Mexican teams.
-A fact is though, an MLS team has never won in Mexico.

-Since 1997, when the MLS started to participate, Mexican teams have won the cup 6 times, Costa Rican teams 2 times, and MLS teams 2 times.

-Overall, Mexican teams have won the cup 23 times, with Costa Rica following with 6.

How about outside of Concacaf?
-A Mexican team became the champion of the Sudamerican last year.
-Mexican teams always compete toe-to-toe with any south-american team in Copa Libertadores, and have advanced to the Final, and Semi-Finals several times.
-Even Bottom-table Mexican teams are able to advance from the Group Stage of Libertadores.

-DC united lost to Colo-Colo in their only participation of Copa Sudamericana.


As for the national team, the US routinely beats Mexico now. They struggle playing in Mexico City, but the pollution and climate there is absolutely stifling for the Americans because of what they're used to. It may be a while before we're consistently successful on Mexican soil, but also keep in mind that our NT couldn't qualify for a world cup until the 90's. We're pretty new to this and our professional league started recently.

Yep, the US has never beat the Mexican NT in Mexico.


As for the Mexican side, yes, you do have 5 players in Europe now. But can you really count the Greek league? It's probably no better than the Mexican league or MLS. The Bundesliga isn't good any more either, neither is the Eredivisie. The problem is you only have one (possibly two) playing in one of the big three (la liga, serie a, premiership). The USMT has several, including Howard, Hanneman, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Convey, Beasley, Dempsey, etc.


The Bundesliga isn't good? :D
Ok ok... I'll stop laughing now.

Hmm, we've had 9 players in Europe.
(Hugo, Marquez, Salcido, Borguetti, Blanco, Palencia, Osorio, Pardo, Nery)
They've won;
Leagues: 6 Spanish La Liga titles, 1 German Bundesliga title, 1 French League Title, 1 Greek Title, 1 Eredivisie Title.
Cups: 1 Champions League title, 1 UEFA Cup title, 2 Copa del Rey titles.

That's a pretty good ratio, considering the number of players.


It's not that I don't think the Mexican NT is good, I just don't think it's good when you consider it's circumstances. Mexican is a huge country with a large population that loves the sport just as any other Latin country does. But historically, they can't even compare to a nation like Argentina or Brazil. Because of CONCACAF they make every world cup, but they've never even made it to the semi-finals. The US has been there. I just think that a country with Mexico's population and its passion for the game should have a national team that's won at least a few world cups. Mexico's population is almost three times Argentina's and the game is just as popular in both places. So why does Argentina have two world cups and Mexico has never even been to the semi finals (despite hosting 2 world cups)?

And if we were to compare Mexico to European national teams, their performance is embarrassing considering their population. Holland's been to two finals and their population is only 16 million (Mexico is 109 million).


-China, India, and Iran have never won a world cup.
According to your argument, they should have more world cups that anyone else.

-Russia has also never won a world cup.
-Their population is bigger than any other euro country.


-The US made it to the semi-finals in 1930. :S
Brazil and Argentina were just taking baby steps back then.



You can't use the same argument against the USA though. It's expected for the USNT to not be any good because of how unpopular soccer is here. If it were the number one sport and our team was as good as we are now, it would be pathetic. But despite soccer not being a mainstream sport (all of our good athletes play football or basketball), our NT is still pretty good.


Right...

I don't know what you have against Mexico, but don't compare the US to Mexico when it comes to football. Just like we don't compare ourselfs to Brazil and Argentina. Yes, you have won a few games against us in the recent years, but I can say that we are in a transitional period right now, even though you guys have gotten a whole lot better.

Don't talk about Mexican Football, if you don't know anything about Mexican Football.
Start watching some Mexican League or Libertadores games, to get alittle more knowledge about us.

Perfect timing. However, that was pretty much Brazil's C squad, and it's just the Copa America.

That's pretty much all of Dunga's selected team actually, except for Kaka and Ronaldinho, that didn't want to play. Our's was the B team. We were missing Blanco, Borguetti, Salcido, Osorio, Medina, Guardado, and Pardo.

Copa America doesn't matter?
Why did Argentina bring their A-team then?
Why did everyone else bring their A-team?

Does the Euro Cup matter?
It's the same thing...

C'mon, stop playing around already...


Edit: Please take a peak at this page if you want to see the history of Mexico vs US in football.
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/mexusares.html
You have a long way to go.

damn just looked at it and it took u.s team 46 years to beat Mexico after defeating them in first match USA 4 - 2 Mexico / II World Cup Qualifying. and the americans are currently braggin about how Mexico cant beat them the last matches in past 2 years. give me a break, the facts speak for themselves....

Mexico had a great defense, Magallon, Castro, Marquez and Pinto did a great job stoping Robinho and Vagner Love! And what a performance Ochoa had, unbelivable same goes for Nery Castillo although he had some selfish plays throughout the game! Overall great performance by el tri, viva Mexico!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pENBzZ4aGp4

Even though you can tell a US fan made thi video, it's pretty cool, check it out!

-MLS teams have 9 victories 4 Draws and 15 losses against Mexican teams.
-A fact is though, an MLS team has never won in Mexico.

-Since 1997, when the MLS started to participate, Mexican teams have won the cup 6 times, Costa Rican teams 2 times, and MLS teams 2 times.

-Overall, Mexican teams have won the cup 23 times, with Costa Rica following with 6.

How about outside of Concacaf?
-A Mexican team became the champion of the Sudamerican last year.
-Mexican teams always compete toe-to-toe with any south-american team in Copa Libertadores, and have advanced to the Final, and Semi-Finals several times.
-Even Bottom-table Mexican teams are able to advance from the Group Stage of Libertadores.

-DC united lost to Colo-Colo in their only participation of Copa Sudamericana.

You have to keep in mind that the MLS has only been around for 11 years and the level of play improves every year. A lot of these games were played back when the MLS was much worse and had fewer teams. But they're going to set up a CL style tournament with Mexican and MLS teams soon, and we'll see what happens then.

The Bundesliga isn't good?
Ok ok... I'll stop laughing now.

It's definitely not the Premiership or La Liga. I'll give it to you though, the Mexican team does have some rising young players playing in Europe. Too bad every soccer powerhouse has that and more.

-China, India, and Iran have never won a world cup.
According to your argument, they should have more world cups that anyone else.

-Russia has also never won a world cup.
-Their population is bigger than any other euro country.

I can't believe you're even bringing up this argument. Can you even compare the place of football in those countries compared to Mexico? It has been getting more popular in those places recently but football was almost nonexistent in them not very long ago and still isn't too popular. However, there is a very strong football tradition in Mexico (at least it's always been hugely popular there). It's the country's passion and national sport, and despite their massive population they don't compare to much smaller nations where the game isn't any more popular.

I don't know what you have against Mexico, but don't compare the US to Mexico when it comes to football. Just like we don't compare ourselfs to Brazil and Argentina. Yes, you have won a few games against us in the recent years, but I can say that we are in a transitional period right now, even though you guys have gotten a whole lot better.

I don't have anything against Mexico, I'm a Mexican citizen. I'm just pointing out that despite hosting two world cups the MNT has never been too successful at a world cup but some seem to regard them as a powerhouse with a lot of history. And I don't see why we can't compare ourselves to Mexico in football. Yes, you have historically dominated us. But for christ's sake the MLS started in 96! We didn't have any world cups from 50-90 as no one in our country even played the sport. But now people are starting to play and we have a financially stable league. Our MNT now dominates Mexico as long as the game is played in a place where the air isn't thoroughly contaminated. Historically, no, we can't compare to Mexico. However, now we have a stable league, the sport is gaining in popularity, and American soccer is getting better all of the time. I think this is the beginning of an era of American domination in CONCACAF. I don't think we'll ever be a superpower along the likes England or Holland (Brazil and Argentina are certainly out of the question), but we're getting better all of the time.

As for the Brazil argument, yes, congrats on the game. But do I have to remind you of what happened earlier this month? The loss to Honduras? Their stunning 2-1 victory over Cuba? The game against Guadolupe? Even if you include the Brazil game, the MNT hasn't played well at all as of late.

damn just looked at it and it took u.s team 46 years to beat Mexico after defeating them in first match USA 4 - 2 Mexico / II World Cup Qualifying. and the americans are currently braggin about how Mexico cant beat them the last matches in past 2 years. give me a break, the facts speak for themselves....

And for how many of those 46 years did we actually have people in the US playing football?

If the only thing you can do is compare Mexico to the US, than you're in trouble. I don't claim that the US is a great team. What I am trying to point out is that despite Mexico's huge population, love for the game, automatic qualification for every World Cup due to CONCACAF, and two home world cups, they've never performed well internationally. Every nation that has ever hosted a WC has made it out of the group stage, and despite hosting two, Mexico has only gotten one game farther than that. Even when the US hosted it in 94 we got out of the group stage. Though the semi-final the US made it to was in 1930, we beat Mexico in 02 to get to the quarterfinal, which is as far as they've ever gotten. We would've gone farther too if it weren't for poor officiating. And let's look at the countries that have gotten farther than Mexico in the World Cup. Belgium's played in a semi-final. Croatia has played in a semi final. Korea and Turkey have too. The same goes for Bulgaria, Poland, Portugal, Uruguay (and in the cup Mexico hosted, too), the USSR, Austria, Yugoslavia, and Chile. Out of all places Chile has been to a semi-final and Mexico hasn't.

Mexico 2

Ecuador 1

Final: Nery n Bravo / MoM: Arce / Oswaldo

Dam what an assist by Cuauhtemoc Blanco! Vamos Mexico a ganarle a Chile se a dicho!

Mexico 0

Chile 0

Both teams sucked and they just wanted the draw. uleros....

Mexico vs. Paraguay on Sunday!

Mexico 6

Paraguay 0

FINAL: Nery Castillo 2x, gerardo Torrado, Fernando Arce, Cuauhtemoc Blanco
Omar Bravo

MoM: Torrado / Castillo

God I hope you guys win the Copa America. CONCACAF would be the superior Confederation!

f->uck Concacaf Mexico is doing it for its people....

Dam we killed Paraguay, hopefully we do the same to Argentina!

You guys play nice-looking football, have good replacements, but it's not enough for Argetina with that squad which they have now. Riquelme has an unbelievable form now and it will be hard to stop him.

That stupid pass of Paraguayan to his keeper at start settled the whole match. I still can't believe he did that. Anyway, they played with one man less and tried to attack, so it was obvious, that will be more space for you to play ball.

Good luck in upcoming match, I wish to see football on the highest level and I'm sure both teams won't disappoint my expectations (Y)

arg 3

Mexico 0

FINAL: Mexico plays Uruguay on Saturday for 3rd place. ridiculous match, Mexico should be 3rd place automatically for group standing but oh well....

Man we just straight up got outplayed in the second half, it's all good though we still got that third place match on Saturday!

Mexico vs Brazil : Friendly Sep 12

link: http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/651319.html

List of Players called up for friendly against Colombia, Aug. 22:

GK
Guillermo Ochoa (América)
Alfonso Blanco (Ciudad Juárez 1° A)
Jonathan Orozco (monterrey)

DF
Omar Esparza (Guadalajara)
Severo Meza (Monterrey)
Julio César Domínguez (Cruz Azul)
Edgar Mejía (Guadalajara)
Jonny Magallón (Guadalajara)
Héctor Moreno (UNAM)
Adrían Aldrete (Morelia)
Efraín Velarde (UNAM)

MD
Emmanuel Cerda (UANL)
José Guerrero (Atlante)
Jaime Correa (Pachuca)
Patricio Araujo (Guadalajara)
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
Jorge Hernández (Atlas)
Gerardo Rodríguez (Pachuca)
Edgar Castillo (Santos)

ST
Omar Bravo (Guadalajara
Luis Angel Landín (Morelia)
Santiago Fernández (América)
Enrique Esqueda (América)
César Villaluz (Cruz Azul).

Mexico 0

Colombia 1

FINAL: boring ass game....

List of players called up for friendlies against Panama n Brazil:

GK

Guillermo OchoaPortero América
Luis Michel Portero Chivas
Alfonso Blanco Portero Pachuca
Sergio Arias Portero Dorados/Primera 'A'

DF

Omar Esparza Defensa Chivas
Israel Castro Defensa América
Julio César Domínguez Defensa Cruz Azul
Edgar Mejía Defensa Chivas
Jonny Magallón Defensa Chivas
Héctor Moreno Defensa Pumas
Adrián Aldrete Defensa Morelia
Fausto Pinto Defensa Pachuca
Carlos Salcido Defensa PSV/Holanda

MD

Emmanuel Cerda Medio Tigres
Daniel Guerrero Medio Atlante
Jaime Correa Medio Pachuca
Patricio Araujo Medio Chivas
Gerardo Torrado Medio Cruz Azul
Jorge Hernández Medio Atlas
Gerardo Rodríguez Medio Pachuca
Edgar Castillo Medio Santos
Fernando Arce Medio Morelia
Andrés Guardado Medio Dep. La Coruña/España

ST

Luis Ángel Landín Delantero Morelia
Nery Castillo Delantero Shakhtar/Ucrania
Giovani Dos Santos Delantero Barcelona/España
César Villaluz Delantero Cruz Azul
Carlos Vela Delantero Osasuna/España
Juan Carlos Mosqueda Delantero América
Juan Carlos Cacho Delantero Pachuca

HT :

Mexico 1 - 0 Panama

game suspended at halftime cause field was flooded with water and was no longer playable.
kind of expected cause has been raining alot because of hurricane season....

That was a good decision in my opinion. There's no point in risking players' getting hurt for a friendly. And the play was getting pretty dirty because the referee couldn't keep the players in check.

Either way it was kind of disappointing to see. Gio didn't do much. But can't really blame the players I guess since the field was in horrible condition, and the rain didn't help. No players really stood out, besides Salcido and Nery. Hopefully the game against Brazil will be better. Also I wanna see Carlos Vela play.

I have a question, does
Patricio Araujo, Gonzalo Pineda, Omar Esparza any good?
Can you give me some info about these 3 players?

I have a question, does
Patricio Araujo, Gonzalo Pineda, Omar Esparza any good?
Can you give me some info about these 3 players?

1st Fact all 3 players play for Chivas Rayadas de Guadalajara.:)


Patricio Araujo: nickname "Pato" (Duck) 19 , can play as CB or DM. some consider him the next Rafa Marquez but still to early although Marquez at his age had not been Champion in Mexican League like Pato was at 18 as starting DM. very strong but not dirty. good technique, not very fast. can control Midfield very well and runs all over the pitch.rumored that Ajax and Arsenal is keeping an eye on him.

Gonzalo Pineda: nickname (Gonzo) 25 , can play as LM or DM. good technique, good left shot, very good at dribbling. can also control Midfield well and also runs all over the pitch. likes to kick penalties Panenka style.

Omar Esparza: 19 , can play as RM or RB. good speed, back and forth player. ok crossing but other than that i personally do not find him a good a player. i consider him below average. he has ok technique....

1 Question?? why you need or want info on these 3 particular players, is a team you root for interested in one of them?? thanks in advance for response....

Mexico 1

Brazil 3

FINAL: Kaka , Afonso, n Kleber /

MoM: Ronaldinho

What up jim, haven't seen you in a while bro!

yeah all the raza is gone and im all alone, lol....

List of 33 players called up for friendly matches vs Nigeria on the 14th and guatemala on the 17th

GK - OChoa / america
GK- Blanco / indios
GK - Hernandez / pachuca
GK - Orozco / Monterrey

DF - Israel Castro / Pumas
DF - Paul Aguilar / Pachuca
DF - Omar Esparza / Chivas
DF - Chore Mejia / Chivas
DF - Jonny Magallon / Chivas
DF - Cesar Dominguez / Cruz Azul
DF - Carlos Salcido / PSV
DF - Hector Moreno / Pumas
DF - Hernandez / Necaxa
DF - Fausto Pinto / Pachuca
DF - Efrain Velarde / Pumas

MD - Cerda / Tigres ?
MD - Fernando Arce / Morelia
MD - Pablo Barrera/ Pumas
MD - Gerrardo Torrado / cruz azul
MD - Edgar Castillo / Santos
MD - Pato Araujo / Chivas
MD - Gonzalo Pineda / Chivas
MD - Jorge Hernandez / Atlas
MD - Andres Guardado / Deportivo La Coru^a
MD - Gerrardo Rodriguez / Pachuca

ST - Giovani Dos Santos / Barcelona
ST - Carlos Vela / Osasuna
ST - Landin / Morelia
ST - Cacho / Pachuca
ST - Valadez / Toluca
ST - La Pina Arellano / Chivas
ST - Cesar Villaluz / cruz azul
ST - Nery Castillo / Shaktar Doneskt

Mexico 2
Nigeria 2

G: Cacho 2x / Martins 2x

Poor performance by the Mexicans....Nigeria should have won.

This is what i would call a poor performance....

Mexico 2

guatemala 3

both teams finished with 9 players other than that pretty avg game. hugo you should have left the sub 23 to Chucho Ramirez....

Oh snaps!....Los Guatemalos won?...Mexico has officially gone bad now...lol

Oh snaps!....Los Guatemalos won?...Mexico has officially gone bad now...lol

Why do u care? Seriously, and it was our U-23 team btw, that plus the ref left us with 9 men and Guatemala is by far one of the dirtiest teams in CONCACAF.

The second half was a disaster, but it doesn't really matter. We played ****ty against a ****ty team. What's new...

List of players called up for Mexico in match vs usa....

GK: Guillermo Ochoa (América), Luis Michel (Guadalajara), Moisés Muñoz (Morelia).

DF: Israel Castro (Pumas), Óscar Adrián Rojas (América), Rafael Márquez (Barcelona-ESP),
Jonny Magallón (Guadalajara), Fausto Pinto (Pachuca), Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven-HOL).

MD: Antonio Naelson (Toluca), Fernando Arce (Santos), Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul),
Andrés Guardado (Deportivo-ESP), Pável Pardo (Stuttgart-ALE).

ST: Antonio de Nigris (Ankaraspor-TUR), Adolfo Bautista (Jaguares),
Carlos Vela (Osasuna-ESP), Juan Carlos Cacho (Pachuca), Giovani dos Santos (Barcelona-ESP).

Mexico 2

usa 2

FINAL: Magallon 2x / MoM: Bofo Bautista

Bueno, parece que todos estan descansando asi que yo lo pondre.. SOlo porque es una gran noticia para su seleccion... Buena noticia talvez??

Mexico fire coach Sanchez after just 16 months

MEXICO CITY, April 1 (Reuters) - Mexico fired coach Hugo Sanchez on Monday after only 16 months in the job, the Mexico Football Federation (FMF) said.

The former Real Madrid striker, widely regarded as the finest player Mexico has produced, was sacked two weeks after the under-23 team, which he also coaches, failed to qualify for the Beijing Olympics.

The FMF said the decision had been taken by a meeting of the federation's executive committee, which is made up of the presidents of the 18 first division clubs.

'By a unanimous decision, the contractual relationship with the technical staff of the national team has been ended,' FMF general secretary Decio de Maria told a news conference.

De Maria said that Jesus Ramirez, who coached the Mexico team which won the World Under-17 championship in Peru in 2005, would take over on an interim basis for next month's friendly against China in the United States.

Mexican media have identified a list of possible long-term replacements, including Brazilian Luiz Felipe Scolari, currently with Portugal, Argentine Jose Pekerman and Italy's 2006 World Cup winning coach Marcelo Lippi.

Sanchez, appointed in November 2006 after lobbying intensively for the job for years, was in charge for 23 full internationals, winning 12, drawing three and losing eight.

However, it was the Olympic team's failure which proved his downfall as Mexico were knocked out in the first stage of the CONCACAF qualifying tournament after finishing third behind Canada and Guatemala in their group.

With Mexico's first matches in the 2010 World Cup qualifying competition only three months away, FMF president Justino Compean said he did not want to risk any more failures.

'We want winners and leaders, we cannot accept another failure,' he said. 'If you thought this was difficult, can you imagine Mexico not being in South Africa.'

Even before the Olympic debacle, Sanchez had been under fire following the full international side's performance at the CONCACAF Gold Cup last year.

Despite reaching the final, where they lost 2-1 to hosts United States, Mexico struggled to one-goal wins over Cuba, Panama and Guadeloupe and lost to Honduras.

They produced a much-improved performance at the Copa America in Venezuela shortly afterwards, beating Brazil 2-0 and thumping Paraguay 6-0 on their way to the semi-finals where they lost to a Lionel Messi-inspired Argentina.

As a player, Sanchez finished as top-scorer in the Spanish league five times -- four of them with Real Madrid -- and played at the 1978, 1986 and 1994 World Cups.

He was famous for his somersaulting goal celebrations.

As a coach, he won two successive Mexican titles with Pumas UNAM but, even then, had alienated many people with his outspoken comments.

I still remember when he would take every chance to criticize the previous coach for every little thing that went wrong, because he wanted the job.. Now he finds, out first hand that its not as easy as it looks.

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Hugo Sanchez said in a interview one time "If you want Mexico to become World Champion, you guys got my number".....hahahahahahahaha....he's got mental problems.

List of players called up for friendlies vs arg and peru and Qualifications vs Belize....

Porteros
1. Oswaldo Sánchez (Santos)
2. Jesus Corona (Tecos)
3. Guillermo Ochoa (América)

Defensas
4. Jonny Magallon (Guadalajara)
5. Ricardo Osorio (Stuttgart)
6. Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven)
7. Aaron Galindo (Eintracht Frankfurt)
8. Patricio Araujo (Guadalajara)
9. Héctor Moreno (Az Alkmaar)
10. Sergio Amaury Ponce (Toluca)
11. Adrian Aldrete (Monarcas)
12 Óscar Rojas (América)
13. Julio César Dominguez (Cruz Azul)

Medios
14. Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
15. Luis Pérez (Monterrey)
16. Fernando Arce (Santos)
17. Gonzalo Pineda (Guadalajara)
18. Andrés Guardado (Deportivo la Coruña)
19. Antonio Naelson (Toluca)

Delanteros
20. César Villaluz (Cruz Azul)
21. Sergio Santana (Guadalajara)
22. Carlos Vela (Osasuna)
23. Edgar Andrade (Cruz Azul)
24. Jared Borgetti (Monterrey)

OFFICIAL SVEN GORAN ERIKSSON has been named MEXICO'S NEW COACH.....

I hear that not to many players are too happy about this move, specially Borgetti.... I would tell them to give the guy a chance

Recently some of those players who criticized the signing of Sven have changed to the opinion that it was just the wrong time not that it was the wrong person. I don't get it.

Mr. Sven has visited many of the clubs to drench himself in person with information about individual players he's considering for a call-up, something HEGO never did. I heard reports that he's been watching videos like crazy, he's seen the performances in the WC, as well as the rescent Copa America.

ME LIKE VERY MUCHO what the man is doing, I bet he's even learned the basic Spanish to communicate with players (probably all the cuss words too) (H). A huge help he's going to need and has is the assistance of Paco Ramirez, the assistant for Lavolpe in the WC. Most experts say he (Paco) knows better than anyone all the players considered for call-ups.

My time is up...I'll continue with this later.

Hugo game and interview to ESPN yesterday. He talked about everything and even criticized Sven but didn't say anything about his "fracaso". Hugo thinks he is god. He's a douche.

The list of call-ups for the first elimination game vs. Honduras...

*drum-roll*

Oswaldo Sánchez - Portero - Santos
Guillermo Ochoa - Portero - América
Jesús Corona - Portero - Tecos
Ricardo Osorio - Defensa - Stuttgart
Rafael Márquez - Defensa - Barcelona
Aarón Galindo - Defensa - Eintracht Frankfurt
Fausto Pinto - Defensa - Pachuca
Jonny Magallón - Defensa - Chivas
Carlos Salcido - Defensa - PSV
Fracisco Javier Rodríguez - Defensa - PSV
Edgar Castillo - Defensa - Santos
Giovani dos Santos - Medio - Tottenham Hotspur
Pável Pardo - Medio - Stuttgart
Gerardo Torrado - Medio - Cruz Azul
Andrés Guardado - Medio - D. La Coruña
Fernando Arce - Medio - Santos
Leandro Augusto - Medio - Pumas
Francisco Torres - Medio - Santos
Luis Pérez - Medio - Monterrey
Guillermo Franco - Delantero - Villarreal
Omar Bravo - Delantero - D. La Coruña
Carlos Vela - Delantero - Arsenal
Cuauhtémoc Blanco - Delantero - Chicago Fire
Matías Vuoso - Delantero - Santos
Carlos Ochoa - Delantero - Monterrey

There isn't one player I'm opposed to on this 1st official list.

Ahora es tiempo para que todos los jugadores se rompan la madre en la cancha...translation: good luck to my Mexican NT. (H)

well theres 25 so 7 are going to be dropped from the list....

Long time no see jim!

Round 1 of WCQ:

Mexico 2

honduras 1

G: Pavel Pardo 2x ----> MoM

Round 1 of WCQ:


G: Pavel Pardo 2x ----> MoM

No sir,

The ref----------mom, he should have had a mexican shirt on. The foul he called on the 2nd goal's play never existed. Palacios clearly hit the ball and not the player.

Either way, Honduras made Mexico look terrible at their own house. Golazo de Rambo and Pavel.

Don't be so bitter, dude. Your team almost escaped with a 1-0 win. Be merry.

Either way, Honduras made Mexico look terrible at their own house. They did at times definitely but you also have to take into consideration that this was Eriksson's first game as coach and he had no time to work with this group of players. I'm just glad we didn't lose because it was looking pretty hopeless until Pavel scored.

What a first Goal by Pavel... a real cracker (Y)

2nd WCQ:

Mexico 3

Jamaica 0

F: Guardado, Arce, and Magallon

I already mentioned it on another thread, but lets give a goodbye to one of the best players to wear 'la verde', el senor Don Cuauhtémoc Blanco. I'll never forget two of his goals...1. the goal versus Belgium in the 98 WC to tie the game at 2-2 and 2. the goal in the 99 Confederations versus Brazil to give Mexico a 4-3 win.

Adios Cuauhtémoc, siempre quedaras en nuestros corazones.

3rd WCQ:

Mexico 2

Canada 1

F: Bravo , Marquez

The "Hunchback"(Cuathemoc) retired.

List of players for qualifier vs Jamaica and canada....

- Porteros
Oswaldo Sánchez Santos
Guillermo Ochoa América
José de Jesús Corona Tecos UAG

- Defensas
Oscar Rojas América
Héctor Moreno AZ Alkmaar (Holanda)
Aarón Galindo Eintracht Frankfurt (Alemania)
Carlos Salcido PSV Eindhoven (Holanda)
Fausto Pinto Pachuca
Ricardo Osorio Stuttgart (Alemania)
Jonny Magallón Guadalajara
Rafael Márquez Barcelona (España)

- Mediocampistas
Fernando Arce Santos
Gerardo Torrado Cruz Azul
Luis Pérez Monterrey
Andrés Guardado Deportivo La Coruña (España)
Gonzalo Pineda Guadalajara
Giovani Dos Santos Tottenham (Inglaterra)
Francisco Torres Santos

- Delanteros
Carlos Ochoa Monterrey
Carlos Vela Arsenal (Inglaterra)
Matías Vuoso Santos
Omar Bravo Deportivo La Coruña (España)
Omar Arellano Guadalajara

jamaica 1

Mexico 0

Tonight Mexico vs canada, Mexico needs at least a draw to qualify to final hexagonal....

Mexico needs to put Honduras comprehensively away in the last game of the round to drive fear into heart of the other teams in the Hex, and to make Sven-Goran look good to his bosses. There is of course the added plus that if Jamaica and Mexico win our next games we both advance... :D

Mexico needs to put Honduras comprehensively away in the last game of the round to drive fear into heart of the other teams in the Hex, and to make Sven-Goran look good to his bosses. There is of course the added plus that if Jamaica and Mexico win our next games we both advance... :D

Honduras played well in Mexico. They almost took the win home. Mexico had a real hard time beating them at their house. It wouldn't surprise me if Honduras beats Mexico in San Pedro Sula. If that happens Jamaica would need to score like 7 goals to leave Mexico out but Jamaica has only been able to score 1 goal per game. I see that very unlikely to happen.

List for WCQ vs honduras:

Goalkeepers: Oswaldo Sanchez (Santos Laguna), Guillermo Ochoa (America), Jose de Jesus Corona (Tecos UAG)

Defenders: Ricardo Osorio (VfB Stuttgart), Rafael Marquez (Barcelona), Aaron Galindo (Eintracht Frankfurt), Hector Moreno (AZ Alkmaar), Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven), Leobardo Lopez (Pachuca), Diego Martinez (Tigres UANL), Fausto Pinto (Pachuca)

Midfielders: Pavel Pardo (VfB Stuttgart), Fernando Arce (Santos Laguna), Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul), Antonio Naelson (Toluca), Jaime Correa (Pachuca), Israel Martinez (San Luis),
Andres Guardado (Deportivo Coruna)

Forwards: Omar Bravo (Deportivo Coruna), Carlos Vela (Arsenal), Nery Castillo (Manchester City), Matias Vuoso (Santos Laguna), Omar Arellano (Guadalajara)


I liked it except for Arellano and Diego Martinez, should have called up Guille Franco and Oscar Rojas....

Omar Arellano is the best forward playing in Mexico, why would you not want Speedy Gonzalez on the NT? C'on you want to see Guille instead?

I won's argue with you about Oscar Rojas... (H)

Oh!! "Mexico va a pasar a la hexagonal caminando" said a lot of Mexican reporters but pasaron de "panzaso". Honduras came out 1st of the group and the so "Gigante" of CONCACAF was almost left out. Mexico only wins in D.F.

Yeah, we had the toughest group but we still shouldn't depend on Jamaica not scoring more than 6 goals on Canada, but thankfully they only put up 3 on the score. It really is embarrasing the way we advanced...

At least there are 3 1/2 tickets to the WC in CONCACAF for this 2nd stage. We should really not **** that up.

I'll be there in Columbus, Ohio watching Mehico lose again :)

That's exactly what happened, Mexico is simply not doing well at the moment.

why the hell did Nery Castillo go off on the Mexican't Media like that? lol

Mexico 4

haiti 0

MoM: Giovani

This game was definitely the best performance so far. There was two great goals, especially Barrera's goal. He and Gio need to be getting more caps. I'd love to see Gio as a right winger-pseudo second striker replacing Arce agains the US. I think he would have a bigger impact than him. He squanders too many chances.

There was still a lot of holes on defense, though. Ochoa bailed out the defense a few times, and they still kept making mistakes. Had that been against a stronger side we'd be looking at two or three goals allowed. They better shape up.

It was Haiti :-/

jonathan dos santos ftw. (Marquez aswell)

It was Haiti :-/

same haiti who tied 2 -2 with us....:clapwap:

Mexico 5

us 0

FINAL: Torrado, Giovani, Vela, Gringo, and Franco

MoM: Giovani (also of the Gold Cup)

looks like Aguirre is finally finding a squad....

The official list confirmed for WCQ on Aug. 12

GK
Ochoa
Corona

Defense:
Efrain Juarez
Marquez
Salcido
Galindo
Rojas
Gringo Castro
Osorio
Magallon


Midfield:
Torrado
I.Castro
Guardado
Cuah

Forwards:
Franco
Dos Santos
N.Castillo
Sabah
C.Vela
A.Medina

The official list confirmed for WCQ on Aug. 12

GK
Ochoa
Corona

Defense:
Efrain Juarez
Marquez
Salcido
Galindo
Rojas
Gringo Castro
Osorio
Magallon


Midfield:
Torrado
I.Castro
Guardado
Cuah

Forwards:
Franco
Dos Santos
N.Castillo
Sabah
C.Vela
A.Medina

Why Castillo? That man doesn't even play "canicas" for his team:icon_spin:

Rest of it looks good I guess.

wtf a match at 12 aug. i hate fifa and national teams.

No Pavel Pardo? Hmm, interesting. I don't really see anything wrong with this list except Medina, but I guess if he hadn't called him, he would've called up Arce. Both are dead weights, so I guess it doesn't matter as long as neither actually get on the field.

My preferred line up would be:

-------------Ochoa-----------------
Osorio---Rafa/Magallon--Galindo--Salcido
------------Torrado-----------------
------------Cuauh----------Guardado
Gio----------------------Vela-----
------------Franco----------------

The list of call-ups for the respective games vs. Costa Rica and Honduras on the 5th/9th of September:

Guillermo Ochoa Portero (América)
Jesús Corona Portero (Cruz Azul)
José Antonio Castro Defensa (Tigres)
Efraín Juárez Defensa (Pumas)
Jonny Magallón Defensa (Chivas)
Aarón Galindo Defensa (Chivas)
Ricardo Osorio Defensa (Stuttgart)
Héctor Moreno Defensa (AZ Alkmaar)
Carlos Salcido Defensa (PSV Eindhoven)
Oscar Rojas Defensa (América)
Israel Castro Medio (Pumas)
Gerardo Torrado Medio (Cruz Azul)
Andrés Guardado Medio (Dep. La Coruña)
Pablo Barrera Medio (Pumas)
Giovani dos Santos Delantero (Tottenham)
Nery Castillo Delantero (Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk)
Guillermo Franco Delantero (S/E)
Miguel Sabah Delantero (Morelia)
Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero (Chicago Fire)
Néstor Calderón Delantero (Toluca)

As fans we're quick to point out who was left out and point the finger to those who don't get our approval, so is the case with this call-up. Contrary to what I've said, Nestor Calderon's call-up pleases me very much although some ''journalists" say it's too early for him to wear 'la verde' but I don't believe his call up automatically emphasizes he should be a starter, it's more like setting up the ground work so that when it's his time to shine, he'll have all the leberties to demontrate his talent.

In the not too distant future, I see some very bright prospects raising their hand with their current forms of play. Examples: Javier 'chicharito' Hernandez (Chivas); Edgar Pacheco (Atlas); Raul Nava (Toluca); Elias Hernandez (Morelia); Enrique Esqueda (America); Armand Pulido (Tigres); Abraham Carreño (Monterrey); Pablo Barrera who was called up (Pumas); and one of my favorites to watch Christian Bermudez (Atlante).

All of them attaking mids, winger-forwards, or strikers. Who said the offensive talent was lacking Mexico? It's a matter of giving them playing time and reducing the number of internationals allowed to be signed by teams, I think reducing the number to 4 instead of the 5 that are currently allowed, considering that one tournament ago, 6 were still allowed, would be ideal in order to have these players affirm themselves as prominet players for the 2014 WC.

Nery Castillo was once more called up?...wtf!!

Who will be the ref for the Honduras vs T&T game? I'm sure it won't be a Mexican since Chiquidracula was accused of thief and what not..lol..I think the Hondurans were right though..Mexico will try anything to make it to the WC.

I like the fact that more and more younger players are being called up for important games. I especially liked Hector Moreno being called up, as well as Pablo Barrera. I also want to see what Calderon can do if he gets to play some. He looks like a good pacey attacking mid, which would possibly work well together with the likes of Gio and Guardado.

My only question is why has Cuauhtemoc been called up when there's an over-abundance of young attackers. I think eventhough he helps the team with his experience and leadership, but at the cost of a potential young player getting valuable experience in these types of games. Also as far as free kicks, Pavel Pardo is a much more dangerous FK taker, so I don't understand that angle. I know Israel Castro has done really well taking his spot, but I would rather have him over Cuauh at this point.

Oh yeah, and I wonder why Vela wasn't called up. So far he hasn't been playing with Arsenal, so unless he picked up an injury that I don't know about, his exclusion leaves me puzzled. He has been playing really well when he has been given the chance. I would have much rather given him a call up over Nery if it had anything to do with lack of space.

Vela is out for about a month (:() something he picked up while with you. I really like seeing him play so that kind of leaves me pissed.
And... ¡Qué chingados! (http://es-la.facebook.com/huevosmexico)

Mexico 3
costa rica 0

FINAL: Giovani , Guille, and Guardado

MoM: Giovani Dos Santos

Really good result for an away game. That field was so ****ty, they might as well have played in concrete. I'm just glad there were no injuries, those ****ers threw elbows all game. The defense was solid, but Costa Rica couldn't piece together even one good attack. They were terrible. I won't be surprised if they stay fourth and get raped by a COMENBOL team.

Gio was great. He gave Guille and Guardado tap-ins for goals. Also Efrain Juarez, Salcido and Osorio played well. Cuauh was effective the first half, then became completely invisible in the second. I think it'll be a blessing in desguise to have him sit out on Wednesday's game. Th attack is centered around him too much. Sometimes it's a good, but the team becomes one dimensional, which is what happened in the first half at times.

I'd love to see Hector Moreno as DM instead of Torrado. Doubt it would happen, but it would be nice to see him play. I also wouldn't mind seeing Barrera play on the right, Guardado on the left and leave Gio play an open attack role - that seemed to work really well. Then as the ST have Sabah or even Nery. The Franco project is done. Too bad he scored, which means he's gonna play next game.

I want a 3-0 or more score. The game in Honduras was a disaster. The team is way better now, and I don't think Honduras will do **** in Azteca. Should be interesting.

Maybe this line-up, seems like these are who Aguirre seems to have most confidence in...

----------Ochoa
-----Osorio------Magallon
-Castro----------------Salcido
------Juarez---I.Castro
------------------------------
DoSantos--Temoc--Guardado
-----------Sabah

I would much rather see Moreno play LCB than having Osorio because the Honduran strikers are physically strong and much taller than Osorio (1.74) at the most. Moreno is something like 1.83 and physically strong so he can defend better in the air against set plays, one of the areas that most hurts us.

Mexico 1
honduras 0

FINAL: Blanco / MoM: Carlos Salcido

Frustrating game to watch. Mexico dominated, but couldn't put anything away. We need a striker. Badly.

Con cuanto se mocho la FEMEX?

Biased referee! Orozco's foul was a clear red and didn't even give him a yellow. However he gave cards to all the Honduran players pretty much. The penalty foul was shaky. He didn't bother to tell Cuathemoc to get out if he was injured but instead he let that bitch give birth in the field.

meh!

Not like Honduras was trying to win. They played 10-0-0 formation the whole game until the goal.

Con cuanto se mocho la FEMEX?

Biased referee! Orozco's foul was a clear red and didn't even give him a yellow. However he gave cards to all the Honduran players pretty much. The penalty foul was shaky. He didn't bother to tell Cuathemoc to get out if he was injured but instead he let that bitch give birth in the field.

meh!

con nada...

biased, yeah right. Osorio's foul was a yellow, he hit the ball first and then let the cleats up. Penalty was clear. and finally its up to the ref to put the discipline not Mexico's fault if the ref can't handle the pressure....

con nada...

biased, yeah right. Osorio's foul was a yellow, he hit the ball first and then let the cleats up. Penalty was clear. and finally its up to the ref to put the discipline not Mexico's fault if the ref can't handle the pressure....

:rolleyes:

Osorio's was a red. His intention was to hurt the player. **** that bull**** about him hitting the ball first..please.

There were fouls less dangerous than Osorio's from Honduran players but those guys did get cards?

"El Gigante" finish the game wasting time laying on the field like little bitches at their own house. Isn't that a shame?? Cuathemoc Blanco once again proved that he is the lowest "tepito" trash that will ever come out of Mexico. Him & Osorio had to be booked but the ref knew that it could cost him his FIFA badge if he wasn't baised.

Mexico will go to the WC no matter what; with all the help it takes bc without it they are a mediocre team.

Orozco, Osorio...whatever we both know what piece of trash we were talking about...I don't care to memorize that bastard's name.

Because Honduras is a power house NT, right?


Funny how you failed to mention that the ref disallowed a perfectly legal goal for Mexico, but whine about fouls and other things that didn't nearly impacted the game as that.

For the record, I think Osorio's foul was a red, and I was annoyed by Cuauhtemoc's antics. but at least call it like it is. It's not like Honduran players don't play-act or make hard fouls.

Because Honduras is a power house NT, right?


Funny how you failed to mention that the ref disallowed a perfectly legal goal for Mexico, but whine about fouls and other things that didn't nearly impacted the game as that.

For the record, I think Osorio's foul was a red, and I was annoyed by Cuauhtemoc's antics. but at least call it like it is. It's not like Honduran players don't play-act or make hard fouls.

Honduras isn't even close to being a powerhouse. The Honduran media hypes them up to believe that ****.

I believe the goal was offsides. the ball didn't hit the Honduran defender like the Mexican press claims.

I didn't expect Honduras to win the game just like I didn't expect the tactics the Honduran coach used. They have a team that could have played attacking football and instead he chose to send them out there to defend. IMO it's the reason for the loss. The Mexican team was scared of Suazo. They teamed up on him every time he touched the ball but the smart coach too him out to bring in Costly who didn't do anything together with the already lost Pavon:rolleyes:

The Honduran players did commit un-necessary fouls but my point is that they got booked unlike the Mexican players that did the same thing but the ref let them get away with it.

Why waste more energy on Cuathemoc? We all know the kind of trash he is.

Cuautemoc is not from tepito. and if Mexico is going to qualify to the World Cup its thanks to el Vasco Aguirre and the players. go worry about your team....

Jonathan called up for the friendly against Colombia! (H)

I really could care less about this friendly, but I'm glad he's finally called up. I think this is a good move by Aguirre. I would love to see what he can do with the team. Hopefully he won't just get called up to sit in the bench. Here's the list of the other players called up:

Francisco Guillermo Ochoa- América
José de Jesús Corona- Cruz Azul

Defensas
Paul Aguilar- Pachuca
José Antonio Castro - Tigres
Hugo Ayala- Atlas
Jonny Magallón- Chivas
Édgar Dueñas - Toluca
Óscar Rojas- América

Mediocampistas
Patricio Araujo- Chivas
Gerardo Torrado- Cruz Azul
Jonathan dos Santos- Barcelona
Braulio Luna- San Luis
Édgar Pacheco- Atlas

Delanteros
Néstor Calderón- Toluca
Juan Carlos Cacho- Pachuca
Javier Hernández- Chivas
Omar Arellano- Chivas
Enrique Esqueda- América

I don't really expect much from this game, but Jonathan possibly playing has sparked my interest in watching it. Maybe a few other players will push themselves into the first team. A lot of young players are in it. The only head scratcher is Braulio Luna. Isn't he like 40 by now? :icon_spin:

who cares how old Braulio Luna? just look at Temo, plus Braulio has been playing at a really good level with San Luis the past few tournaments. I think el Vasco wants him to be the natural sub for Guardado, remember Aguirre took Braulio Luna with him to the 2002 World Cup.

what sucks is that Aguirre will never call back Pavel Pardo or even give a shot to Sinha....

I would much rather see a bunch of younger players with one or two reasonably older veterans. I know what Cuauh has done, but I hate that our 'go to' player is nearing 40 when there is a surplus of young talented players. The team plays one-dimensional when Cuauh, it's like everyone runs around and look for him to do something.

Aguirre seems to favor many aging players that just don't really contribute to the NT as much as a younger player would, but for the most part he gets most call ups right I guess. The way this is going, I won't be surprised if he calls up Borgetti again since we need a striker. It's a little much.

What happaned with Pavel Pardo? I know that Israel Castro has played well in his place, but he's one of the players that can help more than any other verteran player. So I don't get why he isn't being called up anymore.

Pavel won't return because he doesn't get along with Temo just like Oswaldo, Borgetti, and Marquez the famous supporters of the Lavolpe era. but pretty sure Marquez will return once he is fully fit....

Pavel won't return because he doesn't get along with Temo just like Oswaldo, Borgetti, and Marquez the famous supporters of the Lavolpe era. but pretty sure Marquez will return once he is fully fit....

Who gets along with that jackass?

the rest of the team specially his roomate Nery Castillo, probably the reason why Aguirre keeps calling him up....

the rest of the team specially his roomate Nery Castillo, probably the reason why Aguirre keeps calling him up....

maybe bc they are both uneducated assholes...

Uneducated? That's a new one.

Uneducated? That's a new one.

Are you out of ESL yet?

www.dictionary.com (Y)

Sorry, I guess I was vague. I was wondering how you based that they were uneducated. Oh, that's right, I forgot you hate Mexicans, so you probably assumed that since they're Mexicans, they aren't educated. See, I figured it out.

jonathan dos santos, brilliant playmaker, Barça athletic is better than mexico NT so he should become the leader of the midfield.

yeah I dont think so. no logic in the statement now if you had said FC Barcelona then I would agree....

who cares, pyramidal school, even the 10 years old kids play same football as FC Barcelona.
miño, muniesa, fontas, jonathan,thiago, gai, rochina... brilliant team.

List of Players called up for WCQ vs salvador and TnT

GK:
1. Francisco Guillermo Ochoa Magaña
2. José de Jesús Corona Rodríguez

DF:
3. Efraín Juárez Valdez
4. Rafael Márquez Álvarez
5. José Jonny Magallón Oliva
6. Carlos Arnoldo Salcido Flores
7. Ricardo Osorio Mendoza
8. Héctor Moreno Herrera
9. José Antonio Castro González
10. Oscar Adrián Rojas Castillon

MD:
11. Gerardo Torrado Diez de Bonilla
12. Israel Castro Macías
13. José Andrés Guardado Hernández
14. Pablo Edson Barrera Acosta

FW:
15. Cuauhtémoc Blanco Bravo
16. Guillermo Luis Franco Farcuason
17. Miguel Sabah Rodríguez
18. Carlos Alberto Vela Garrido
19. Enrique Alejandro Esqueda Tirado
20. Omar Arellano Riveró

No Gio? Injured?

Nery didn't get called up. Figures. We could have probably used him this time. Eh. At least Vela is back.

Good to have Marquez back as well.


Edit: I think the line-up will be something like this...


--------------------- Ochoa
Juarez---Marquez--Osorio---Salcido

---------- I. Castro --- Torrado
-----------------------------------Guardado
------Cuauhtemoc------ Vela
------------------- Sabah

Mexico 4
salvador 1

G: OG, Blanco, Palencia and Vela

MoM: Blanco

Mexico is the 1st to qualify to the 2010 World Cup from the Concacaf zone....

Mexico 2
tnt 2

FINAL: Esqueda and Salcido / MoM: Baptiste

I think that these palyers have a roster reservation for the WC at South Africa.

Gk's: Ochoa, Corona and maybe Cirilo Saucedo as the 3rd option.
CB's: Marquez, Magallon, Moreno, Salcido.
L/RB's: Juarez, Osorio, O.Rojas?
DM's: Torrado, Luna.
OM's: Guardado, Blanco.
Forwards: Vela, Dos Santos, Sabah.

I'm still not convinced on Israel Castro but he'll probably get the call-up over someone who I'd favor like Pavel Pardo. The same goes for Guille Franco because I honestly would like to see some other young strikers like Pablo Barrera or Omar Arellano.

you can pretty much add Israel Castro and Guillermo Franco to your list and Gringo Castro. so there's like 3 or 4 spots left, up for grabs....

Gringo Castro, now that's an interesting case...tell me something he does well besides marking and being a speedster, but the speed won't make up for his bad passing and and his horrible crosses, reasons enough for his departure from Coapa 2 tourneys ago.

true but he is a player that Carrillo likes and seems that el Vasco has found ways of utilizing him in various formations....

Antonio de Nigris passed away. RIP.

Tragic. RIP.

R.I.P De Nigris :(

Very professional player. I hope god gives enough strength to his family to make it through.

RIP Antonio de Nigris. =[

RIP ''Tano'' De Nigris.

His younger brother (Aldo) has taken this tragedy as an inspiration/motivation towards his career since he's got 3 goals with Monterrey in these playoffs. Monterrey now has a chance to be crowned and it would be a great story if indeed the ''rayados'' come out victorious against Cruz Azul. The global score is 4-3...

FuaN13awih0

Jonathan world cup.

all depends, what he shows this month according to Pep who then will decide if he stays for the rest of season with first team or returns to reserves....

I wasn't impressed with the role he played under Aguirre in his friendly against Colombia.

I think that Mexico can do very well on the next WC..That goalie Ochoa is the best I've ever seen...

Viva Mexico!

what happened to his brother? Is he still with Spurs?

Giovani is still at Spurs unfortunately not getting much play time. he is only 20 years old and hasn't yet even played a whole season in a team. hopefuly he will find a team soon where he can settle and start his futbol career....

He played more at Barca than is playing for Spurs right now unfortunately..

Giovani were stupid leaving Barça, shame he haven't got Pedro humility and pacience.

List of Players called up for friendly vs Bolivia on Feb. 24th in San Francisco....

GK:
1. Luis Ernesto Michel Portero Guadalajara
2. Jonathan Orozco Portero Monterrey

DF:
3. Paúl Aguilar Defensa Pachuca
4. Efraín Juárez Defensa UNAM
5. Hugo Ayala Defensa Atlas
6. Jonny Magallón Defensa Guadalajara
7. Jorge Torres Nilo Defensa Atlas
8. Adrián Aldrete Defensa Monarcas

MF:
9. Gerardo Torrado Medio Cruz Azul
10. Israel Castro Medio UNAM
11. Luis Miguel Noriega Medio Puebla
12. Braulio Luna Medio San Luis

ST:
13. Aldo Jesús De Nigris Delantero Monterrey
14. Javier Hernández Delantero Guadalajara
15. Pablo Barrera Delantero UNAM
16. Enrique Esqueda Delantero América
17. Angel Eduardo Reyna Delantero América
18. Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero Veracruz

1st Friendly:

Mexico 5 - 0 Bolivia

Goals: Barrera, Chicharito 2x, Aguilar, and Luna

List of players called up for friendly vs New Zealand on March 3rd, FIFA Date.

GK:
Luis Michel / Guadalajara
Jonathan Orozco / Monterrey

DF:
Efraín Juárez / UNAM
Carlos Salcido / PSV Eindhoven
Ricardo Osorio / Stuttgart
Francisco J. Rodríguez / PSV Eindhoven
Héctor Moreno / AZ Alkmaar
Rafael Márquez / Barcelona


MD:
Gerardo Torrado / Cruz Azul
Israel Castro / UNAM
Andrés Guardado / Deportivo
Jonathan dos Santos / Barcelona
Braulio Luna / San Luis

ST:
Aldo de Nigris / Monterrey
Carlos Vela / Arsenal
Javier Hernández / Guadalajara
Giovani dos Santos / Galatasaray
Cuauhtémoc Blanco / Veracruz

Chicharito looks like the real deal. (H)

he is.

2nd Friendly:

Mexico 2
New Zealand 0

Goals by Chicharito and Vela

How has Jonathan played? I see he hit the post.

played pretty good considering it was his 2nd match with national team. and also got to play with his brother Giovani probably the first time in their career....

You think he will be in the world cup squad? that would be awesome.

water boy^^^

well he could make it but probably to get the experience....

He is your best midfielder, deal it.

He is your best midfielder, deal it.


Based on???? Pre season games....:sleep::rolleyes:

List of players called up for friendly vs North Korea on March 17 in Territorio Santos Modelo.

Goalkeeper: Guillermo Ochoa (America), Luis Ernesto Michel (Chivas).

Defenders: Oscar Rojas (America), Jose Antonio Castro (Tigres), Jonny Magallon (Chivas), Juan Carlos Valenzuela (America), Jorge Torres Nilo (Atlas).

Midfielders: Jesus Molina (Tigres), Patricio Araujo (Chivas), Daniel Arreola (Atlante), Luis Miguel Noriega (Puebla), Braulio Luna (San Luis), Jonathan Dos Santos (Barcelona).

Forwards: Alberto Medina (Chivas), Cuauhtemoc Blanco (Veracruz), Angel Reyna (America), Javier Hernandez (Chivas), Vicente Matias Vuoso (Santos).

3rd Friendly:

Mexico 2
North Korea 1

FINAL: Goals by Blanco and Chicharito

List of players called up for friendly vs Iceland on March 24th at North Carolina.

Guillermo Ochoa / Portero / América
Luis Ernesto Michel / Portero / Chivas

Efraín Juárez / Defensa / Pumas
Paul Aguilar / Defensa / Pachuca
Jonny Magallón / Defensa / Chivas
Juan Carlos Valenzuela / Defensa / América
Jorge Torres Nilo / Defensa / Atlas
Jesús Molina / Defensa / Tigres

Adrián Aldrete / Medio / Morelia
Gerardo Torrado / Medio / Cruz Azul
Israel Castro / Medio / Pumas
Braulio Luna / Medio / San Luis

Adolfo Bautista / Delantero / Chivas
Alberto Medina / Delantero / Chivas
Pablo Barrera / Delantero / Pumas
Ángel Reyna / Delantero / América
Miguel Sabah / Delantero / Morelia
Vicente Matías Vuoso / Delantero / Santos

4th Friendly:

Mexico 0 - 0 iceland

FINAL: MoM - Pablo Barrera

Pre List of the World Cup : (only players from Mexico, 4 from this list will dropped before the final list on June 1)

Guillermo Ochoa Portero América
Luis Ernesto Michel Portero Chivas
Oscar Pérez Portero Jaguares

Paul Aguilar Defensa Pachuca
Efraín Juárez Defensa Pumas
Jonny Magallón Defensa Chivas
Juan Carlos Valenzuela Defensa América
Jorge Torres Nilo Defensa Atlas

Gerardo Torrado Medio Cruz Azul
Israel Castro Medio Pumas
Adrián Aldrete Medio Morelia

Pablo Barrera Delantero Pumas
Adolfo Bautista Delantero Chivas
Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero Veracruz
Alberto Medina Delantero Chivas
Miguel Sabah Delantero Morelia
Javier Hernández Delantero Chivas

surprises are Oscar "el Conejo" Perez and Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista. the one who should have been there Braulio Luna....

5th Friendly:

Mexico 0
Ecuador 0

FINAL: players looked out of rythm and stiff. normal considering it was their 1st match since the one month concentration camp.

How good is Chicharito?

6th Friendly:

Mexico 1
Senegal 0

FINAL: Venado Medina

Two ****ty performances in a row. They better shape up in Houston cause I'm planning to make the trip over there.

7th Friendly:

Mexico 1
Angola 0

FINAL: Guardado

8th Friendly:

Mexico 1
Chile 0

FINAL: Venado Medina

9th Friendly:

Mexico 1

England 3

FINAL: Crouch, King, and Johnson / Franco

Are they really playing with the full squad?? or not yet?

It's the first game with the full squad.


Loving how Maza is playing. I think him and Moreno should play back and let Rafa play as a holding mid. Barrera looked solid except he lacked a good shot. The real WTF is why in the hell is he playing conejo at GK? That's ridiculous. He's god damn horrible... I really doubt Ochoa or even Michel play as bad as him.

The level of play really dropped off once Vela and Gio were off, and England just began to run in circles on us. It was a bit worrying.

I have doubts, concerns, and criticism.

My doubts: Who are gonna be the central backs? Yeah Maza, but do you really think Moreno is ready? If he does decide those two should play it leaves no option but to put Rafa at defensive mid but I really don't think he's comfortable there, he missed a bunch of passes and he's even slower in that position; I think Torrado and Juarez do an outstanding job with the marking so I prefer those two in the mid.

Concerns: Why is Conejo playing when it's Ochoas job, and what really concerns me is that he won't have rhythum and confidence when the WC starts...seriously this really concerns me because his season has been marked with errors and what he needs most is playing time so he feels more comfortable.

Criticism: First of all we can't finish a play for sh!t, our shots are weak and nobody can score a damn goal. This of course goes mainly to Vela with those two wide open shots.

The game with England was dissapoiting because they gave us the ball and only gave like 60% effort, yeah we touched the ball real nicely but that was it; alot of tiki-tiki and no pum-pum!!!

Next we face my motherland, I mean the Netherlands. (H) I think we're gonna see what the TRI is really made of in this game because "Holland" unlike England will want the ball.

How about this for a line-up vs. Netherlands:

------------Ochoa
-----Marquez--Maza
-Osorio------------Salcido
-------Juarez--Torrado
Dos Santos----Guardado
---Chicharito--Franco (if he recovers)

I have doubts, concerns, and criticism.

My doubts: Who are gonna be the central backs? Yeah Maza, but do you really think Moreno is ready? If he does decide those two should play it leaves no option but to put Rafa at defensive mid but I really don't think he's comfortable there, he missed a bunch of passes and he's even slower in that position; I think Torrado and Juarez do an outstanding job with the marking so I prefer those two in the mid.


I think Moreno is ready enough. I mean, he's playing in Europe and has played in the Champions League, plus he has looked solid (although never really tested with the cupcake teams the federation puts on). To me he's an upgrade from Osorio.

I think that Rafa looked solid defensively, although going forward he looked shaky. He needs more control and his long passes are sorely needed. Gio could use a few of them since he's arguably our fastest player.

Juarez has earned a spot in the starting 11, but I think he's more a player going forward. I never really see him defending except on the wings with Torrado playing sort of a sweeper role. With that said, what happened to Israel Castro? It's odd that he hasn't gotten any playing time when him and Juarez always seem to do a good partnership. I know that Torrado is an unmovable player, but I'd like to see how Castro would do with Rafa as holding mids and then let Juarez play on the right wing to attack.


How about this for a line-up vs. Netherlands:

------------Ochoa
-----Marquez--Maza
-Osorio------------Salcido
-------Juarez--Torrado
Dos Santos----Guardado
---Chicharito--Franco (if he recovers)


I like that line-up. The only concern is that Guille looked solid (then got hurt), and when Chicarito came in to sub him, he was basically invisible. I didn't see much of Guardado, either. Hope to see better performances all around.

Too bad the Stadio Azteca isn't a WC 2010 "sede".....Get used to losing bc you guys only win in Mexico City.

You're right.


Pre-congrats on Honduras winning the WC. :rolleyes:

Too bad the Stadio Azteca isn't a WC 2010 "sede".....Get used to losing bc you guys only win in Mexico City.


and your team has never won there,but Mexico has defeated the usa in american soil, lol.... :clapwap:

You're right.


Pre-congrats on Honduras winning the WC. :rolleyes:

Both Honduras and Mexico will not win snot....

Btw they beat you 3-1 so....

and your team has never won there,but Mexico has defeated the usa in american soil, lol.... :clapwap:

tear tear tear tear tear:sleep:

lol....

10th Friendly:

Mexico 1
Holland 2

FINAL : Chicharito / RVP 2x

Both Honduras and Mexico will not win snot....

Btw they beat you 3-1 so....


Cool. Thanks for your prediction and for reminding us how important that is to you.


Be happy your country is even in the WC.

11th Friendly:

Mexico 5 - 1 Gambia

FINAL: Chicharito 2x, Bofo 2x, and Medina

Chicharito scores again :D

Btw how will your lineup be like for the WC?

-----==---Chicharito
--------============--Vela

Guardado-------------------Dos Santos

-----------Torrado----Castro

Salcido----------------------------Juarez
------------Osorio------Marquez

-----------------Ochoa


Something like that?

I think it's actually gonna be something like this...

---------------Ochoa------------------

Osorio -- Rodriguez -- Moreno -- Salcido
---------------Marquez
-------------------Torrado
Juarez--------------------- Guardado

----- Dos santos
-----------------Chicharito

I can't believe JDS was the one who was sent home. Sure, he didn't make an impact, but I think for the sake of gaining the experience itself, he should have been in the 23 man squad.

Don't tell me Bofo was saved by his two tap-ins cause I'm gonna be pretty ******* annoyed. He's proved many times how useless he is. Hell, he was the ONLY played boo'ed in Azteca.

and now his brother is threatening to quit because of that?? How about they suck it up, improve their skills , and wait till next WC... not be immature about it

Actually the only one running his mouth has been their father, Zizinho. It's pretty dumb and immature of him to try and get Gio off the team like if this was some youth team and he had full control of them.

Zizinho has been bitching non-stop. It's quite funny :D Bofo will be a starter, together with "El Conejo" bc Aguirre is a moron.

and now his brother is threatening to quit because of that?? How about they suck it up, improve their skills , and wait till next WC... not be immature about it

Yeah, this is seriously ridiculous. How ******* childish, not everyone can make the squad, particularly not every 20 year old.

Last Friendly:

Mexico 2
Italy 1

FINAL: Vela and Venado Medina / MoM: Juarez

Game One:

South Africa 1
Mexico 1

FINAL: Marquez / MoM: Giovani

I really liked Juarez, hope to see him more. Good luck for the next match, i want Mexico to pass trough and i hope Aguirre makes the right choices to in the line-up.

Game 2: Group A

Mexico 2
France 0

FINAL: Chicharito and Blanco / MoM: Marquez

Congrats on the win. Well deserved. I have nothing bad to say about the team this time. I´m surprised to see how bad France plays.

You know, my animosity for you guys is starting to go down a little bit. This is probably due to the fact that most of the players from the 2002 team are gone and they seem to have been replaced by young players who don't play like assholes. I will never in my life forget watching our game in the 2002 World Cup and being absolutely disgusted with the disrespect we were shown by your players, some deliberately trying to injure us (particularly Cobi Jones, who I NEVER liked until that game when he sort of became a martyr).

So... for that reason I can never even consider liking your team until Marquez is gone, but you're on your way to redemption in my eyes. Gio is just awesome, Chicarito looks like he could be one for the future, and I also quite like Magallon, Ochoa (WHERE IS HE!?!?!), and Salcido.

Blanco though... send the old horse to the glue factory already.

Game 3: Group A

Mexico 0
uruguay 1

FINAL: Suarez / MoM: Guardado who was subbed at HT???

It's weird, I came into this thread intending to post something very similar to what Nimreitz said.

I have never really cared for Mexico (just to clarify, I'm referring to the Mexican National Team here, I have absolutely nothing against Mexico as a country or its people) and have traditionally hoped for them to fail, but I have been very impressed with how the team played in the group. I rate Dos Santos very highly, in fact I would love to see him come to United, and of course our new boy Chicharito.

I fear you will get the unlucky task of facing Argentina though.

Round of 16:

Mexico 1
argentina 3

FINAL: Chicharito / MoM: Salcido

when you loose, I celebrate your loss.. but not this time since you got screwed.

The only silver lining, which is very out of the ordinary for a Mexican squad, is that there is a ton of upside for years to come. Many young players are coming up, and that is very rare when Mexico is usually composed of many late 20, early 30 somethings in the NT.

I hope players like Moreno, Paul Rodriguez, Efrain Juarez, Pablo Barrera, Gio, Jonathan, Nestor Calderon, Carlos Vela, Chicharito, and whoever else comes up through the process are ready to step up their game and take Mexico out of the same place they have been in the past two decades it seems.

I will be very happy if Mexico forms into a team that will play talented players and not field mediocre "experienced" older players just because there's not enough trust on the talented younger players. I'm sick of seeing scrubs like Conejo Perez, Bofo Bautista, Guille Franco, hell even Cuauhtemoc being called up because the managers don't trust the younger talent. There has to be change, and the team needs to move forward with the core of younger but now experienced players and build from that. **** calling up scrubs when there is more talent out there.

true.

his name is Paul Aguilar, lol, the RB who plays for Pachuca....

Haha, I noticed that (H)

I was too lazy to edit it.

Chicharito, Gio and Salcido were really impressive, as was the team effort. Shame you had to go out like that, I was rooting for Argentina, definitely, but still, you deserved a fair fight. I'm pretty sure you would've advanced against, say, England. A great showing from your guys, hope to see you develop even further, and you could go far in the next few years.

FINAL: Chicharito / MoM: Salcido

Explain how Salcido was MoM??? lol

Mexico lost dude...MoM was TEVEZ

MoM: for Mexico not the match, doh....lol

MoM: for Mexico not the match, doh....lol

Not...MoM was "Estupido" Bautista...lol

List of players called up for friendly vs Spain:

GK:
Guillermo Ochoa (América)
Jesús Corona (Cruz Azul)

DF:
Paul Aguilar (Pachuca)
Rafael Márquez (NY Red Bulls)
Francisco J. Rodríguez (PSV Eindhoven)
Héctor Moreno (AZ Alkmaar)
Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven)
Fausto Pinto (Cruz Azul)
Leobardo López (Pachuca)
Efraín Juárez (Celtic FC)

MD:
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
Jonathan dos Santos (Barcelona)
Andrés Guardado (Deportivo)
Pablo Barrera (West Ham)

ST:
Javier Hernández (Manchester United)
Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham)
Carlos Vela (Arsenal)
Elías Hernández (Monarcas)
Enrique Esqueda (América)

Mexico 1
Spain 1

FINAL: Chicharito / Silva

Friendly:

Mexico 1

ecuador 2

F: OG / MoM: Salcido

List of players called up for friendly vs Bosnia on Feb 9th.

GK:
Jesús Corona (Cruz Azul)
Alfredo Talavera (Toluca)

DF:
Paul Aguilar (Pachuca)
Iván Estrada (Santos)
Francisco Javier Rodríguez (PSV)
Édgar Dueñas (Toluca)
Jonny Magallón (Guadalajara)
Héctor Moreno (AZ Alkmaar)
Jorge Torres Nilo (Tigres)
Carlos Salcido (Fulham)

MD:
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
Israel Castro (Pumas)
Jesús Zavala (Monterrey)
Giovani dos Santos (Racing)
Antonio Naelson "Sinha" (Toluca)
Luis Pérez (Monterrey)

ST:
Édgar Pacheco (Atlas)
Pablo Barrera (West Ham)
Néstor Calderón (Toluca)
José María Cárdenas (Santos)
Aldo de Nigris (Monterrey)
Javier Hernández (Manchester United)

Did anyone see that match? How did the teams play?

It was a slopping game with sloppy goals and Bosnia never threatened Mexico.

I have the ultimate depht chart looking forward to the '14WC, I'll post it with due time so you can all be impressed.

Mexico plays today in opening game of Gold Cup vs salvador. Hope Chicharito scores 1st goal of the tourney.