Goalless draw with the Israelies is Okie... but the clueless performace by the Million Dollar Premiership players is what stung me the most... England need to wake up very very soon.. They are so far beyond other top nation in term of performance and getting results... So hard to swallowned is that they have all the Stevie G, Ferdinand, J. Terry, Lamps, Rooney, and tons of top class talent at their disposal.. they cudn't even string a good passes to each others.. Losing or drawing with a tough opponents once in a while is always acceptable.. But the way they play is something that is not acceptable, not from a Premiership stature player at least... No excitement, predictable long ball, no danger, lousy strategy.. bla bla bla... This has been going on for too long period.. Iz always overhyped..!!

lol I agree...I almost fell asleep watching the game...it was quite sad, they couldn't really do anything useful with the ball.

Goalless draw with the Israelies is Okie...
I stopped reading after that.

Lmao, an overrated bunch of pansies couldnt even SCORE on a country that has no "glorious history" in football!

aahahaha

Location: KL,Malaysia !?!?!?!? why the hell do you care about how crap england are doing? i hope they don't qualify for Euro 08. they need to stop blaming the Coach and start critisizing the players who are on the pitch, the ones who are rated among the top 10 for some strange reason.

Location: KL,Malaysia !?!?!?!? why the hell do you care about how crap england are doing? i hope they don't qualify for Euro 08. they need to stop blaming the Coach and start critisizing the players who are on the pitch, the ones who are rated among the top 10 for some strange reason.

Aha... good question... I dun care dat much.. Just wandering.. As a Malaysian, I support and care on the Malaysia NT.. sad too said that, we are so crap these days.. I watch football in general.. Premierships players is what we watch weeks in weeks out in telly during their overexposed Premeirship matched.. daz y, we are always wandering.. In General, we would love to watch all the best team in major tournament.. You can just ask anyone.. If England missed out.. you will feel something missing in biggie tournament such as World Cup or EURO...

Malaysia Boleh (H)

It's been years since England played anything remotely entertaining.

If England missed out.. you will feel something missing in biggie tournament such as World Cup or EURO...
Not really.

Malaysia Boleh (H)

Kalau Malaysia Boleh, Aku Pun Boleh (H)

Naw, the English are just simply overrated.

The "Kick and Run" football just doesn't work anymore. :)

Whats wrong? well first of all the FA appointed Erriksons assistant coach as the new manager, he clearly had a say in tactics cuz it's like watching Errikson being in charge all over again, number 2, he continues to cater for Lampard, when he clearly isnt performing for England, where as Gerrard IS performing and working hard, yet he plays HIM out of position, please tell me the logic in that? he'll drop Beckham, but drop Lampard? oh nono, just play Gerrard in the centre of midfield and drop Lampard, ty, and moving on, he plays Lennon on the left, when he performs so much better on the right, now for club, testing him on the left may pay off, but internationally, the flanks can be key, so he must play on the right, also, maybe now he'll finally realise Johnson cant put away chances for England at the first time of asking, if you give Defoe a run, he will score for you, wether it's club or country, Cole/Downing, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Lennon in midfield, then we will see results, but allow me to ask, why Mclaren wanted to play a holding midfielder, against Israel?

Kalau Malaysia Boleh, Aku Pun Boleh (H)

Singapore tak boleh :(

Newater :(

Not really.
:boohoo: how about you go jump off a bridge.

Not really.

Don't worry, we didn't miss Turkey in the world cup. You two bob c*nt.

Don't worry, we didn't miss Turkey in the world cup.

Turkey's always entertaining to watch. Had they played in Germany, the atmosphere would've been 10x better considering the Turkish population there.

They need to pull a Dunga and bench Lampard and Gerrard and Rooney and start with the newer hungrier players

argree with you there Will.

Either they will fight to win back a place or they're out. obviously upfront the situation is a bit worse than in midfield. but I like that generall idea.

I hope Andorra beat you guys on Wednesday. Yes, I know its statistically impossible, but then again, who would have thought that the Borats would defeat Serbia?

I hope Andorra beat you guys on Wednesday. Yes, I know its statistically impossible, but then again, who would have thought that the Borats would defeat Serbia?

The Azerbaijanis? (H)

Some decent players but ultimately we're a crap team

Bit like Spain.

It's been years since England played anything remotely entertaining.

Aren't you Spanish? Cause that is incredibly ironic.

they need Gerrard to stop playing the long balls. if he is not good enough enough to play in his strongest position, drop him. play a natural right midfielder. players playing out of position makes them narrow, and the service in general to Rooney and co is crap. the egos need to be checked.

it's very simple really the manager need's to go that's first and then beckham have to come back he is a natural born leader the english team lack's leadership and a right skipper

it's very simple really the manager need's to go that's first and then beckham have to come back he is a natural born leader the english team lack's leadership and a right skipper

Beckham is useless to them now. He is passed it now unfortunatly. Gary Neville is a leader too. Terry should be more vocal IMO. They give some of the "stars" too much say. They are more interested in writing books. Lampard, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Ashley Cole etc. are more interested in money. A kick up the ass would do them good.

Overated, They should get Lennon and Walcott on the wings

Overated, They should get Lennon and Walcott on the wings

Walcott is unproven at best!!!

They should just play their U-21's team, or even use their 4-3-3 system and drop Gerrard and Lampard...or something similar

:boohoo: how about you go jump off a bridge.
Awwww, hit a nerve? :fluffy:

and Lmao,, some idiot [who wasn't brave enough to leave a user name] gave me neg rep with the message, "i hate turks". as if that was supposed to insult me, as if i care!

lmaooo :rofl:

Awwww, hit a nerve? :fluffy:
Not really... I don't need a retard to tell me England have been crap for a while. I'm not offended about people criticising the England team, I'm offended by brain dead moronic Turks (or is that simply Turks?) who are sh*t stirring fools.

and Lmao,, some idiot [who wasn't brave enough to leave a user name] gave me neg rep with the message, "i hate turks". as if that was supposed to insult me, as if i care!

lmaooo :rofl:
Honestly who gives a flying f*ck? Please leave your ego stretching at the door. Anyway we've been round this track already many times... you tell everyone how cool you are and don't care what anyone has to say about you... then start moaning, crying, posting mega tirades and then you in turn give people neg rep WITHOUT SIGNING. You're a total hypocritical tool.

I would say the problem lies with player power.

McClaren doesn't dare drop Lampard or Gerrard. It is well proven that this pairing will never work. All England fans have given them more than enough time to sort it out. They haven't.

They simply need a big kick up their arses. McClaren needs to start dropping people to establish who's boss. He used to be the number 2 before and the players probably don't recognize that he's the gaffer now.

Look at what Roy Keane has done for Sunderland. No coaching experience, but the players respect and work for him. Immediate results.

I doubt McClaren will ever have that kind of effect on England players.

Get Barton in there, he'll stir things up a bit (Y)(H)

Time to stop picking the best 11 that won't work together. And just picking 11 that do work together. You could have C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Lampard, Gerrard, Pirlo, and Riquelme in the same squad, but you need to make choices. In Mclarens case hed just bang 7 in midfield.

Thank god we don't have two world class English goalkeepers or hed probably play one of them in defence despite reports they can't play together.

Nothing's lost yet for England, everybody relax.. teams with quality players and experience always find a way to qualify (almost always). Look at how Spain and Italy always manage to get through despite having gone through periods where they had a string of unimpressive results.

England's a good rival. Like them or not, it's true the WC and Euro's are poorer if they don't qualify.

England's a good rival. Like them or not, it's true the WC and Euro's are poorer if they don't qualify.

Yeah, especially since they always lose against us, they're highly needed! ;)

j/k

Now seriously, it's exactly as you said. Several top teams many times go through difficult times in qualification, but most of the time they qualify. Now, having said this, they do need to step it up, otherwise they're in big trouble. And it's also true England being absent from a EC or WC is a major negative...

Yeah, especially since they always lose against us, they're highly needed! ;)

j/k



hehe well, tbh England's exactly the kind of team that scares me, same with Holland. We've had so many wins over them recently that I can't help but think they're due for revenge on us sooner or later..

Holland scares me too. If England's NT sucks, we suck 10× more

England have to play Russia twice, not too sure they can pull it off. they need to win all their games IMO

I stopped reading after that.

Lmao, an overrated bunch of pansies couldnt even SCORE on a country that has no "glorious history" in football!

aahahaha

France draw on the same pitch!

if england even drew with the world champions, they wouldnt be satisfied. hope andorra win tomorrow.

The source of the problems? Woonie and Lampard. It's not McLaren's job to finish those chances that Carl Cort dreams about.

They aren't producing, simple as that.

Out: Woonie, Lampard, Robinson
In: Crouch, Barton, Carson

the problem lies with McClaren. their tactics were way too negative. As Alan Shearer rightly pointed out on Match of the Day, their simply weren't enough bodies in the box when crosses went in. All there was were the two forwards, and you know how short they are. With Israel's ten men behind the ball, Gerrard and Lampard should have joined in, especially given that Hargreaves is there.

Way too negative, way too, sven-like.

yeah what happened with Hargreaves that game? In the world cup he seemed to be the only player trying for England...now he was pretty much non existant

his job is more to help out the defence, freeing up Lampard who was done crap...

yeah what happened with Hargreaves that game? In the world cup he seemed to be the only player trying for England...now he was pretty much non existant
He's only played a handful of games after being out for half a year with a broken leg. He's at like 60%. They should've played Carrick or someone else.

He's only played a handful of games after being out for half a year with a broken leg. He's at like 60%. They should've played Carrick or someone else.

Oh I see...even though now that I think about it...maybe they should've put an extra striker instead of him... yeh know, more people in the box.

his job is more to help out the defence, freeing up Lampard who was done crap...

Lamps actually had more shots on goal than anyone against Israel. Where was Gerrard and what the fu<k did he contribute thats what I would like to know.

Lamps actually had more shots on goal than anyone against Israel. Where was Gerrard and what the fu<k did he contribute thats what I would like to know.

Playing on the outside out of position.

Of course now he's in the center he's scored twice, two more than Lampard scored. (H)

The fact that Lampard had most shots on goal means that England can't get their strikers in good positions - else Frank would pass the ball to them...

Also, if he shot that many times and couldn't score, well... Gerrard surely should have been in front of Frank to deflect his shots in instead of creating chances for him.

Woonie leaves the field, England start playing well.

Hmmm.

Lamps actually had more shots on goal than anyone against Israel. Where was Gerrard and what the fu<k did he contribute thats what I would like to know.

That's the thing, Gerrard had done **** all aswell. If one was dropped to let a natural winger in there, I think Lampard would have more success. Trouble is Gerrard scored twice last night against a poor nation, which makes him look good.

One key thing to take from yesterday's game,

GERRAD DOMINATED IN THE MIDDLE!!

I wonder if McLaren took note of that. :jambo:

That's the thing, Gerrard had done **** all aswell. If one was dropped to let a natural winger in there, I think Lampard would have more success. Trouble is Gerrard scored twice last night against a poor nation, which makes him look good.

No way is Lampard better than Gerrard.

The thing with Lampard and Gerrard is that they take so many shots some have to go in.

One key thing to take from yesterday's game,

GERRAD DOMINATED IN THE MIDDLE!!

I wonder if McLaren took note of that. :jambo:

You can't take anything out of a game against Andorra.

Fat frank and Gerrard cant play together for ****, Should change Frank for Hargreaves. :D

If a manager is good enough, he could get the best 2 English midfield players playing well together. Unfortunately Mclaren, like you does not have a clue just how to do that.

Try thinking about something without your Manc bias first ruling your thoughts and jumping on the media bandwagon.:mexican:

McClaren will out of a job before most people learn to spell his name it seems! :D

England national team eh. The fans really let them know better than the away fans would have.

Woonie leaves the field, England start playing well.

Hmmm.That happened at the WC. Once he got sent off against Portugal, England played their best football in the WC.

If a manager is good enough, he could get the best 2 English midfield players playing well together. Unfortunately Mclaren, like you does not have a clue just how to do that.

Try thinking about something without your Manc bias first ruling your thoughts and jumping on the media bandwagon.:mexican:

I just hate Lampard (H) haha

So you were that fan who missed the punch? (H)