Discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9KVwZm_jw

un****believerble

Quite, surely a suspension will be coming his way and he won't get to play the last game of the season.

whats next hes gonna start doing drugs to?

Discuss. Shutup shearerm4 u cocksucka messis is **** so are barca and argentine all argies are greasy anyway and got beckham send off so **** them and **** you drogbas goals r better chelsea n real 4tw!!!

Oh sorry I didnt realise this was something new :$

Quite, surely a suspension will be coming his way and he won't get to play the last game of the season.

Is this possible?

I don't think it would be fair, I blame the refs more.

Raul did the same thing in CL 4 years ago, don't believe he was suspended that time.







I guess this brings me to a topic: why people don't condemn what Maradonna did. He cheated, but people act as if it was so great.

Sir Calumn, you are a douchebag. (H)

im just hopin Seville win the title and if they dont im fine with Barce winning it, but not fine with Madrid winning it. Very very tight, if this goal decides the title it will be pretty sik

Is this possible?

I don't think it would be fair, I blame the refs more.

As least give him a yellow card for hand ball

im just hopin Seville win the title and if they dont im fine with Barce winning it, but not fine with Madrid winning it. Very very tight, if this goal decides the title it will be pretty sik

for god sake it didnt!

Raul did the same thing in CL 4 years ago, don't believe he was suspended that time.







I guess this brings me to a topic: why people don't condemn what Maradonna did. He cheated, but people act as if it was so great.

ppl just praise of Maradonna dreadful skill not his handball!

He's a coke habit and 3 squares a day from McDonald's away from being the next Maradona!

He's a coke habit and 3 squares a day from McDonald's away from being the next Maradona!


Hahaha (H)

Awesome

I'd be such a ******* heel if I was a pro soccer player. I'd be like Materazzi or Maradona because it's only cheating if you get caught. It sucks when the refs don't catch the other guys cheating though.

Its only a big deal because he has been labelled the new maradona, handball goals aren't that uncommon.

Leo Maradona :d

http://www.mundoimg.com/imagenes/capturas/25167_mundoimg__messibasquetwc7.jpg

that goal just proves why he IS the next maradona..

Poor Messi.
So now we know he's gonna get addicted to coke, alcohol and fat food aswell... :(

http://www.mundoimg.com/imagenes/capturas/25167_mundoimg__messibasquetwc7.jpg
:rofl:

I think thats enough becoming a drug addict/becoming fat jokes (which are all the same).

Now he's ready to play against England.

Messi the Midget a cheat?????

Tell us something that we didn't already know.

Yeap someone for all to be proud of :rolleyes:

awesome goal from a brilliant player, i hope he scores one like that against england(H)

awesome goal from a brilliant player, i hope he scores one like that against england(H)

Yeah, seems like thats the only way your pathetic little nation can beat us:) Going by the last couple of meetings, your little team seem to struggle.

Yeah, seems like thats the only way your pathetic little nation can beat us:) Going by the last couple of meetings, your little team seem to struggle.


Actually, Argentina is quite a big country for your information ;)

:rolleyes: douché.

Yeah, seems like thats the only way your pathetic little nation can beat us:) Going by the last couple of meetings, your little team seem to struggle.

Because it's fun to wind up ye englishmen.;)

I have 2 opinions in this. First i don't understand why people says these goals are great, c'mon it should've been disallowed. Second i don't understand why people call the player a "cheat" when in reality it's the referee and the linesmen who are "idiots".(:/)

Well call me old fashioned but I just think that the player SHOULD NOT even think about punching the ball into the net. I really do not simply blame the officials for not spotting it.

A player should have honour and self belief. To be happy to score a goal like that is a sign of a bad sportsman and a .....cheat. There is no other word for it.

By the way I DO NOT see any reason why this discussion has to feature in any way on the country that Messi was born in. This is about an individual and not an entire Nation.

Well call me old fashioned but I just think that the player SHOULD NOT even think about punching the ball into the net. I really do not simply blame the officials for not spotting it.

A player should have honour and self belief. To be happy to score a goal like that is a sign of a bad sportsman and a .....cheat. There is no other word for it.

By the way I DO NOT see any reason why this discussion has to feature in any way on the country that Messi was born in. This is about an individual and not an entire Nation.

Sad thing is, that players, most of the player, let's say 95% of them, don't have any honour at all, in or outside the pitch.:(

People are overreacting just because it was Messi.

I mean, it's a great goal, but I think Maradona's "hand of God" was definitely better. Besides it was against Espanyol and with a Spanish ref, so it is easier. Maradona did in a WC against England.

DT you aint fooling anyone with these stupid comments man. You're just looking for an argument, preferably with an Englishman. Way too obvious mate :)

ShearerM4 would have replied, though.

Isn't this thread for stupid comments anyway?

Nah its about cheating and its just a coincidence that THIS cheat plays for the club you support.

Don't take it all so personally mate. I'm sure Messi don't give a rats arse what happens to you in your life or me in mine. :)

You're wrong, pede.

I don't take it as something personal. I was making fun.

This is just the thread that ShearerM4 opens every month since Messi scored that goal against Getafe..

Pathetic is the fact that he was celebrating as if it were a great goal and everyone in the stands and pitch followed....then Tamudo scored and everyone became pathetic even more. Poor saps. Barca will never be as big as us.

Oh OK mate. I didn't realise that this subject was "Episode 2" from a previous"discussion". My mistake, sorry.

Pathetic is the fact that he was celebrating as if it were a great goal and everyone in the stands and pitch followed....then Tamudo scored and everyone became pathetic even more. Poor saps. Barca will never be as big as us.


His celebration was indeed sickening for me. Although what was worse was seeing Eidur witness the cheating and celebrating like everyone else. There was a time in Eidur's career when seeing something like that would disgust him. No longer it seems.

It doesn't make any difference to me. I don't care one way or the other about Madrid or Barca, or any of their players. I just hate cheating. Yeah even when Englishmen do it.

I couldn't care less about this goal but imagine the significance of this goal if Real ties the next game and Barca wins theirs?

Pathetic is the fact that he was celebrating as if it were a great goal and everyone in the stands and pitch followed....Yeah, shame on Barça.

For example, when Van Nistelrooy handled the ball two weeks ago the whole Bernabeu and the Real Madrid players told the ref to disallow the goal and they didn't celebrate.



You know what? you're a great man.

haha wtf of a goal (H)

less scandalous than maradona's though..

Wow... how boring.

Now everyone who hates Barcelona and Messi can call him a cheat. Like no one on their team has ever cheated :|

Like any Real Mierdista can even try to pull that crap :funny:

Anyway, yawn.... there are so many errors made by refs, some more blatant than others, that really this isn't that big of a surprise.

I will try to pull a filipower joke for the portuguese readers. "Alguem sabe como tá o Camp Nou depois de ontem? Ta mudo" :mexican:
I´ll get my coat

why the hell is that a filipower joke? (H)

funny though :p

Well call me old fashioned but I just think that the player SHOULD NOT even think about punching the ball into the net. I really do not simply blame the officials for not spotting it.

A player should have honour and self belief. To be happy to score a goal like that is a sign of a bad sportsman and a .....cheat. There is no other word for it.

By the way I DO NOT see any reason why this discussion has to feature in any way on the country that Messi was born in. This is about an individual and not an entire Nation.

It's a business. If you can bend the rules at your job to get a promotion and big raise, you might do it. Yes, some people have honor, but most people are going to do what they have to do to get ahead. In this case, at least nothing illegal happened.

Yeah, shame on Barça.

For example, when Van Nistelrooy handled the ball two weeks ago the whole Bernabeu and the Real Madrid players told the ref to disallow the goal and they didn't celebrate.



You know what? you're a great man.

That little midget Messi wants to emulate Maradona that badly I guess. There's a differnce with messi voleyball spike and a ball playing the hand. The inferiority complex will surely go up a notch now:bob:

Wow... how boring.

Now everyone who hates Barcelona and Messi can call him a cheat. Like no one on their team has ever cheated :|

Like any Real Mierdista can even try to pull that crap :funny:

Anyway, yawn.... there are so many errors made by refs, some more blatant than others, that really this isn't that big of a surprise.

Well, Slowjack, the only thing people cannot argue is the fact that we deserve totally to be in 1st place. Our hunger, determination, heart have made it possible. we've grinded out tough ones and survived not cause of luck but because of hard work and the team believing in themselves which is something Barca haven't managed now. Deep down inside even our worrst enemies know we deserve it (if we win next week), although they'll never admit it.

Real Mierdistas? hehehehe! I love it. The more I hear things like this the more important I know we are:)

Well, Slowjack

OH, NO YOU DIDN'T!

Well, Slowjack, the only thing people cannot argue is the fact that we deserve totally to be in 1st place. Our hunger, determination, heart have made it possible. we've grinded out tough ones and survived not cause of luck but because of hard work and the team believing in themselves which is something Barca haven't managed now. Deep down inside even our worrst enemies know we deserve it (if we win next week), although they'll never admit it.

Real Mierdistas? hehehehe! I love it. The more I hear things like this the more important I know we are:)

Who are ya?

Anyway, really the only Mierdista here is you.;)
Most Madrid fans on here are good guys, but you are just a piece of ****.


Anyway, I never once denied Madrid deserving to be where it is, OrgulloRacista. Madrid is full marks for first place and if/when they win, they will deserve it. If a team wins a league, they deserve it. I have no problem with that.

Well, Slowjack, the only thing people cannot argue is the fact that we deserve totally to be in 1st place. Our hunger, determination, heart have made it possible. we've grinded out tough ones and survived not cause of luck but because of hard work and the team believing in themselves which is something Barca haven't managed now. Deep down inside even our worrst enemies know we deserve it (if we win next week), although they'll never admit it.

Real Mierdistas? hehehehe! I love it. The more I hear things like this the more important I know we are:)

Hahaha, "Slowjack" is so lame.

You are in 1st place for one reason: David Beckham

The guy you benched and forced out.

^^ absolutely.


and slowjack is lamme, almost as much as supporting real madrid :(

slowjack. Thats genius! (H)

This is just the thread that ShearerM4 opens every month since Messi scored that goal against Getafe..

Not really, the thread was a complaint at such a disgraceful act but also a brilliant attempt at auto-derision.

Anyway, all the complaining about oh "Madrid also did this and that so blablabla" is pretty typical and very annoying. Sort your own house out before looking anywhere else. If Messi's goal goes unpunished it would be a disgrace, and the Barca fans should be the first to be criticising it. Trying to minimise certain actions because of other actons past doesn't work is petty and childish "oh but he did it first, he started it"...

But then if you don't mind "winning" that way, then I guess it says a lot more about you than anything else.

The goal left me with a hollow feeling. I couldn't even celebrate it.

The thing that gets to me is the Madrid Mierdistas getting sanctimonious about it.

I personally don't agree with the goal, and think it was cheating. On the other hand, I understand the pressure and the motivation for a player to do that. I don't condone it, but I understand why they do it.

Hahaha, "Slowjack" is so lame.

You are in 1st place for one reason: David Beckham

The guy you benched and forced out.

I guess Mr. 25 goals (aka Ruud) had nothing to do with it, or Robinho, or Higuains great goal weeks back, or Miguel Torres' solid run, or Emerson finally playing well or anything else! It's been a total team effort.

^^ absolutely.


and slowjack is lamme, almost as much as supporting real madrid :(

Filipower, judging by your sig, it looks as if you support everyone! Now that's lame!(H)

Not really, the thread was a complaint at such a disgraceful act but also a brilliant attempt at auto-derision.

Anyway, all the complaining about oh "Madrid also did this and that so blablabla" is pretty typical and very annoying. Sort your own house out before looking anywhere else. If Messi's goal goes unpunished it would be a disgrace, and the Barca fans should be the first to be criticising it. Trying to minimise certain actions because of other actons past doesn't work is petty and childish "oh but he did it first, he started it"...

But then if you don't mind "winning" that way, then I guess it says a lot more about you than anything else.Isn't that what I was saying to him? :rolleyes:

He was complaining about something that his team did only two weeks ago. I'm not the one who came here to complain about van Nistelrooy and I didn't even try to defend Messi's goal.

The goal left me with a hollow feeling. I couldn't even celebrate it.

The thing that gets to me is the Madrid Mierdistas getting sanctimonious about it.

I personally don't agree with the goal, and think it was cheating. On the other hand, I understand the pressure and the motivation for a player to do that. I don't condone it, but I understand why they do it.

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

you won't lose the league on 1 bad decision, you lose it over 38 games. sure, should not have been given, but im sure real have scored some goals that should not have stood!

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

Well i remember a goal that shouldnt count for madrid some weeks ago, that involved a hand and Van Nistelrooy, am i right??

So maybe you should call it even

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

As you have said numerous times the league is a 38 game marathon, not a 1 game sprint. Don't be intentionally obtuse.

Decisions over the course of a season come and go, goals here, penalties there, bad player moves etc.

Barcelona are where we are due to that, as is Madrid.

To say the league came down to a handball goal is both foolish and opportunistic, and I know you don't really believe that, as I've seen your posts in our thread about the subject of deserving the league etc.

The team that battles, wins, faces adversity and comes out on top is the champion. If that is Madrid this year, I will take my hat off to them. If it is Barca I will hold my head high, despite the handball goal, which is only a fraction of a piece of the entirety of the season.

I love all the anti-madridistas in this thread... hah

It's quite funny. I am not mad at Messi really, the refs and the linesman are the one to blame for not seeing that. I guarantee that if one of the players from your team would have done it, it would have been a different story.

I love all the anti-madridistas in this thread... hah

It's quite funny. I am not mad at Messi really, the refs and the linesman are the one to blame for not seeing that. I guarantee that if one of the players from your team would have done it, it would have been a different story.

There isn't a lot of anti-Madrid sentiment here. OrgulloVikingo is saying stupid crap and we are correcting his mistake.

I love all the anti-madridistas in this thread... hah

It's quite funny. I am not mad at Messi really, the refs and the linesman are the one to blame for not seeing that. I guarantee that if one of the players from your team would have done it, it would have been a different story.

I'm not anti-Madrid. I'm pro-Barca. There is a difference.

I am, however, anti-idiocy, which is why I responded to OrgulloPendejo.

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?
If that's the case then you've blown it yourselves. Because fate is in your hands right now.

But of course, Messi is a cheater. (N)

If that's the case then you've blown it yourselves. Because fate is in your hands right now.

But of course, Messi is a cheater. (N)

You are right. We have it in our hands and I correct myself. If we lose it's our fault. That said, I think we (LFP) have the worst refs. The Spanish FA should really do something about it. Every team gets screwed by poor refs every now and then. And yes, Messi is a cheater, that's a fact. I think many players would have tried the same in Messis defense I guess. Anyway, I won't continue insults, etc. Looking forward to another tense weekend. May the best team win!

Filipower, judging by your sig, it looks as if you support everyone! Now that's lame!(H)
yeah i couldn't possibly just like the players that are in it, i must support everyone so you can feel happy about joking about it. have it your way sir. :jap:

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

If that should happen we would have 3 points more than you and that tie would have no meaning in that, if he didn't score it, we would be still ahead by 2, and I think that's enough. Do your mathworks.:jambo:

ANYWAY, I don't approve what he did, ofcourse not, but it was the refs fault that they didn't see it, or they saw it and didn't call it. But if you really think, it's not that different than diving inside the penalty area to get a PK. Then some1 scores probably and the score can be totally different. But when this happens, do people here on SG make a huge topic about it and talk about it for couple weeks dissing the player as much as possible, and so on.

The truth is, this wouldn't be so big of a thing if it wasn't Messi who has been compared to Maradona all the time... I think that you all know it, but some of you just don't want to admit it or want to just through crap on Messi (OV:nape:).

And let me just say, I'm not defending him, and as I said before, I don't approve that, but it's understandable when the pressure is so high and the fight for the title is at it's last deviding moments. I hope that we win the title, but not like that, but as I have said, if Real loses and we win, this goal won't mean anything.

Lets suppose we lose next week against Mallorca and Barca win = barca would win the league due to that hand of God imitation. So, I guess we shouldn't care about that piece of sh!!t midget and his volleyball skills?

and if madrid win the league is thanks to Nisterlooy for his hand goal, coz if real would score that goal they aren't gonna win that match + nisterlooy wouldn't play against Zaragoza if he would be booked.

so first think

You are right. We have it in our hands and I correct myself. If we lose it's our fault. That said, I think we (LFP) have the worst refs. The Spanish FA should really do something about it. Every team gets screwed by poor refs every now and then. And yes, Messi is a cheater, that's a fact. I think many players would have tried the same in Messis defense I guess. Anyway, I won't continue insults, etc. Looking forward to another tense weekend. May the best team win!


Alright then. As I have seen in the past, you say silly things, then afterwords begin to show glimmerings of maturity and make an intelligent post.

I guess there's hope for you after all, despite the whole supporting Madrid issue (H).

Good luck next week, I hope Mallorca beats you ;).

May the best team win.

I think we (LFP) have the worst refs.
nah, you haven't seen bad refereeing until you've seen the Portuguese League :(

nah, you haven't seen bad refereeing until you've seen the Portuguese League :(

Don't even get me started on the MLS refs (:/)

as a football fan, i always liked barca, compared to real madrid. however, when i saw goals like this, i get furious, i really think real madrid should be the champion this year. barca wouldnt even get a draw from espanyol if messi's goal was canceled. but now, real has to win.

its god's will.

its god's will.

God is cruel :(

and if madrid win the league is thanks to Nisterlooy for his hand goal, coz if real would score that goal they aren't gonna win that match + nisterlooy wouldn't play against Zaragoza if he would be booked.

so first think

Have u noticed is the second time we say this argument , and madridistas just "ignore" it??

Im nit anti- madirid BTW. But if madridistas think that Messi is a cheater i thin RVN is a cheater too.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Barça fans are VERY proud of Messi.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Barça fans are VERY proud of Messi.

Exactly! Just not of that particular moment.

that's obvious.

who the hell was proud of maradona when he did his thing, besides his fellow addicts?

and he's still the best ever.

Overall, very proud. Particularly for this goal, I don't ******* care. Espanyol would have done anything to beat Barça and they had nothing to win or to lose in the game. Besides Messi was the best player on the field. If anything, I would praise him. He's a little genius.

Overall, very proud. Particularly for this goal, I don't ******* care. Espanyol would have done anything to beat Barça and they had nothing to win or to lose in the game. Besides Messi was the best player on the field. If anything, I would praise him. He's a little genius.

He played like he was possessed that game... too bad so many other players didn't :(

and if madrid win the league is thanks to Nisterlooy for his hand goal, coz if real would score that goal they aren't gonna win that match + nisterlooy wouldn't play against Zaragoza if he would be booked.

so first think

Have u noticed is the second time we say this argument , and madridistas just "ignore" it??

Im nit anti- madirid BTW. But if madridistas think that Messi is a cheater i thin RVN is a cheater too.

There is a reason why I have ignored this, and thats because Ruud NEVER scored a goal with his hand. He did however used his hand that landed in the foot or Raul who strucked the ball, hit a depor player and rebounded to ramos who then when on to score the goal. As you can see there is a difference between what you are mentioning, and from what Actually happened. In the end it doesnt even compare to what messi did.

You're welcome by the way :p






** gets ready to see if they pay attention to what I just wrote :corn:**

There is a reason why I have ignored this, and thats because Ruud NEVER scored a goal with his hand. He did however used his hand that landed in the foot or Raul who strucked the ball, hit a depor player and rebounded to ramos who then when on to score the goal. As you can see there is a difference between what you are mentioning, and from what Actually happened. In the end it doesnt even compare to what messi did.

You're welcome by the way :p






** gets ready to see if they pay attention to what I just wrote :corn:**



is the same to me, thanks to RVN hand the ball ended in the net, wether he made the goal directly or not, he DID influence to score.

but we are not here to judge players we dont really know if they are cheaters, who knows what happens in their little heads in those moments, the real point is that non of both goals should be valid, so then again i think madrid fans should not complain against this bad call, you got one to.

Sorry for mi bad english

but we are not here to judge players we dont really know if they are cheaters
Yes we are... and we do know they are :funny: were the millions of videos not clear enough?

The fact the acts were clearly deliberate, and they then celebrated instantly is pretty conclusive I think.

is the same to me, thanks to RVN hand the ball ended in the net, wether he made the goal directly or not, he DID influence to score.

but we are not here to judge players we dont really know if they are cheaters, who knows what happens in their little heads in those moments, the real point is that non of both goals should be valid, so then again i think madrid fans should not complain against this bad call, you got one to.

Sorry for mi bad english

NO!! its not the same. Messi was one on one with the kepeer in the air. With Ruud, There were defenders all around. Ramos actually got lucky for being able to get to the ball first, watch the video... Pff.. actually I'm sure I am not going to convince you. If you think is the same then fine.

Just to make one thing clear, I am not saying that what ruud did is o'k. but just not the same. :jambo:

NO!! its not the same. Messi was one on one with the kepeer in the air. With Ruud, There were defenders all around. Ramos actually got lucky for being able to get to the ball first, watch the video... Pff.. actually I'm sure I am not going to convince you. If you think is the same then fine.

Just to make one thing clear, I am not saying that what ruud did is o'k. but just not the same. :jambo:

Lucky or not the point is that the goal wasnt valid, u cant argue that.

And yes his hand influence to score that goal, and yes is cheating, just like diving. I belive there are no "levels" of cheating, u just cheat or not thats it.

And what Messi has done is disgusting thats for sure and i agree with all the comments against his celebration specially, but u cant complain about the bad call, cuz then again Real Madrid had one. end of story

Well...none of this will matter come this weekend. Hopefully we can beat Mallorca and hoist the trophy. Man, if we accomplish that....Who would have thought that with our "awful" team (as many of our rivals have labeled us) we could beat the rest of the league! What does that say about the rest? and...imagine when we become really really good....

http://www.mundoimg.com/imagenes/capturas/25167_mundoimg__messibasquetwc7.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: (H)

It was blatant handball and i think it was fair that barca conceded an equaliser in the last minute !!

The Spanish La Liga this season has been a real roller-coaster ride....madrid should win it but lets see what unfolds :p....anythings possible