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Vedran-10
26-06-2007, 08:55:PM
FUTBOL CLUB

BARCELONA

Més que un club!



The Badge
http://images.google.hr/url?q=http://www.worldcupjapankorea.com/free-soccer-wallpapers/barcelona-fc.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHBFUFIp9Shu7FOKrFX26e0bizRQA





Camp Nou
http://ameba.lpt.fi/~aryhanen/barcelona%2009-04/0874_camp_nou.jpg


50 years of our stadium!
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9131/maillotbarca07081hl8.jpg



Team shirts 2007/08

Ronaldinho in the new shirts
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/847/homeft3.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5337/awayvw7.jpg



Home shirt 2007/08
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2381/maillotbarca0708fr1.jpg


Away shirt 2007/08
http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237743-414_1.jpg


Founded: November 29th, 1899

Stadium: Camp Nou (98,787)

President: Joan Laporta

Manager: Frank Rijkaard

Assistant Manager: Johan Neeskens

Director of Football: Txiki Begiristain




Trophies:

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: 1991-92, 05-06

EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS CUP: 1978-79, 81-82, 88-89, 96-97

FAIR CUP: 1957-58, 59-60, 65-66

EUROPEAN SUPER CUP: 1992-93, 97-98

SPANISH LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP: 1928-29, 44-45, 47-48, 48-49, 51-52, 52-53, 58-59, 59-60, 73-74, 84-85, 90-91, 91-92, 92-93, 93-94, 97-98, 98-99, 04-05, 05-06

SPANISH CUP: 1909-10, 11-12, 12-13, 19-20, 21-22, 24-25, 25-26, 27-28, 41-42, 50-51, 51-52, 52-53. 56-57, 58-59, 62-63, 67-68, 70-71, 77-78, 80-81, 82-83, 87-88, 89-90, 96-97, 97-98

SPANISH SUPERCUP: 1983-84, 91-92, 92-93, 94-95, 96-97, 05-06, 06-07

SPANISH LEAGUE CUP: 1982-83, 85-86

LATIN CUP: 1948-49, 51-52

CATALAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP: 1901-1902, 04-05, 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 12-13, 15-16, 18-19, 19-20, 20-21, 21-22, 23-24, 24-25, 25-26, 26-27, 27-28, 29-30, 30-31, 31-32, 34-35, 35-36, 37-38

CATALAN CUP: 1990-91, 92-93, 99-00, 03-04, 04-05, 06-07


Total 92



Current Squad:

Goalkeepers
Valdés 1, Jorquera 25, Oier 28

Defenders
Puyol 5(captain), Márquez 4, Sylvinho 16, Oleguer 23, Thuram 21, Zambrotta 11, Abidal 22, G.Milito 3

Midfielders
Xavi 6, Ronaldinho 10, Edmílson 15, Touré Yaya 24, Messi 19, Deco 20, Iniesta 8, Dos Santos 17, Crosas 26

Forwards
Eto'o 9, Henry 14, Gudjohnsen 7, Bojan 27, Ezquerro 18



Club Legends:
Krankl, Maradona, Sonny Anderson, Evaristo, Rivaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Hristo, Prosinečki, Laudrup, Lineker, Schuster, Czibor, Kocsis, Kubala, Cocu, Cruijff, Ronald de Boer, Frank de Boer, Koeman, Neeskens, Deco, Baia, Abelardo, Alexanko, Rexach, Txiki, Goikoetxea, Guardiola, Lucho, Nadal, Puyol, Ramallets, Salinas, Samitier, Sergi, Suarez, Zamora, Zubizarreta, Larsson, Messi, Xavi, Eto'o, Belletti, Henry.



Transfers:

In
Bojan Krkić promoted from Barça B
Giovanni Dos Santos promoted from Barça B
Marc Crosas promoted from Barça B
Thierry Henry for €24m (an additional €1m if Barça win la Liga) from Arsenal F.C.
Touré Yaya for €9m (an additional €0.5m in the next four years everytime Barça qualify for the CL or win la Liga) from A.S. Monaco
Éric Abidal for €15m (an additional €0.5m if Barça win the CL in the next four seasons) from Olympique Lyonnais
Gabriel Milito for €17m (additional variables that could amount to €3.5m) from Real Zaragoza
Oier Olazábal Paredes from Real Unión Club de Irún

Out
Javier Saviola on a free
Giovanni van Bronckhorst on a free
Ludovic Giuly for €3.2m (an additional €0.4m every time AS Roma qualify for the Champions League in the next three years) to A.S. Roma
Juliano Haus Belletti for €5.5m to Chelsea F.C.
Thiago Motta for €2m to Atlético de Madrid
Maxi López for €2m to FC Moskva






The Champions celebrate, May 17th 2006
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/_photos/2006-05-17-barca-in.jpg





Last season's team photo
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1623/plantillauefa0607bz3.jpg




For the Champions League...
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/catala/futbol/temporada_07-08/especials/fitxatge_henry/henry_especial.jpg




Visca el Barça!!!

Dream Team
26-06-2007, 09:36:PM
Great Job, Vedran (Y)





We could start with the list of player who are coming/leaving.

In:
Bojan Krkic (Barça B)
Giovanni Dos Santos (Barça B)
Thierry Henry (€24m +1m if barça win la Liga)
Yaya Touré (€9m +0.5m in the next four years everytime Barça qualify for the CL or win la Liga)


Out:
Saviola (free)
Ezquerro (free)
Gio (free)


Belletti and Giuly might leave as well. Sylvinho is more doubful now that Gio left. Motta is transfer listed and I don't know about Gudjohnsen.

I think Márquez and Deco could leave, but only if there's a good offer.

bybuti
26-06-2007, 09:53:PM
nice vedran :D

this is for wining Champions League and La Liga :D

SEMPRE BARÇA

Vedran-10
26-06-2007, 09:55:PM
Thanks.

I've put everything I wanted to put on the first post. If someone has ideas what to add, let me know.

I also added the Ins and Outs.

Is there something missing?

Vedran-10
26-06-2007, 10:04:PM
Does anyone know Bojan and Giovanni's numbers?

Should I add Titi to the legends list now? I mean, it would be about time, he was presented yesterday, we've waited long enough. (H)

Dream Team
26-06-2007, 10:20:PM
Even if he has a disastrous season, he's one of the best players of his generation. He's already a legend.

I have no idea about the numbers. If I could decide: Dos Santos 8(Giuly), Bojan 11(Zambrotta), Zambrotta 2(Belletti)

Azrael
26-06-2007, 11:33:PM
Club Legends:
Krankl, Maradona, Sonny Anderson, Evaristo, Rivaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Hristo, Eto'o, Prosinečki, Laudrup, Lineker, Schuster, Czibor, Kocsis, Kubala, Cocu, Cruijff, Ronald de Boer, Frank de Boer, Koeman, Neeskens, Deco, Baia, Abelardo, Alexanko, Rexach, Txiki, Goikoetxea, Guardiola, Lucho, Nadal, Puyol, Ramallets, Salinas, Samitier, Sergi, Suarez, Zamora, Zubizarreta, Larsson, Messi, Xavi, Eto'o, Belletti, Henry.

Do you really consider them club legends? Don't get me wrong, great players. But how much have they done for the club? I'd add Ronaldo and Kluivert, though. Then again, I'm not a Barca expert.

big al
27-06-2007, 12:31:AM
freaking amazing vedran , you kick ass.

Num Lock
27-06-2007, 12:42:AM
King Henry

Thelonious
27-06-2007, 01:17:AM
Doesn't Gio leave at the end of next season?

Vedran-10
27-06-2007, 01:36:AM
Do you really consider them club legends? Don't get me wrong, great players. But how much have they done for the club? I'd add Ronaldo and Kluivert, though. Then again, I'm not a Barca expert.

Larsson is a fantastic player and he did extremely well for us. He is a football legend and he did his job perfectly. He was the ideal substitute, because he was capable of turning the game around with his skill, and he never ever complained about being on the bench most of the time. I can't think of a better player to have on the bench. For all this, he gets legend status in my book and I believe the same goes for the rest of the Barcelonismo. I don't even think I have to mention the two assists in Paris against Arsenal, when he played a major role in our triumph.

Messi, I admit you can't call him a legend just yet, but I don't remember the last time a football player was loved so much at Camp Nou. Everyone at the club adores him, I couldn't not put him, since he's so special.

Eto'o, the Pichichi, is on a level of his own. Despite the bad blood off the pitch, there's no one in the world that tries harder than him, and he's done so mucj for us. If he's not a legend, who is?

Belletti, ok he sucks, but he scored the winner in Paris. Maybe he shouldn't be on that list just because of one goal, but what the hell. We won the f*cking Champions League because he got one shot right.

Henry is, like DT said, one of the best of his generation and he's a legend already. I think that warrants him the status of a Barca legend, because for example Maradona, while he was with us, didn't do anything significant, spent most of his time injured but is still considered a club legend simply because he's Diego Maradona, and he wore the red and blue shirt. It's only fair that another great footballer, Titi, gets the same treatment.

And I have no doubts that Messi, Eto'o and Henry will show why they belong on this list. I feel this will be a special season, and I hope we have to add some more names.


I think Ronaldo belongs on the list, too, but I don't want to put him there because I don't like him. That was so arbitrary and unfair (H)
Kluivert? I don't think he deserves a place on that list, not for his name, not for his performances in the Barca shirt.

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al thanks.

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Gio is gone. He went to Feyenoord. Apparently he had a clause of some sort in his contract that allowed him to leave for free. He wants to finish his career at home. I guess he expected us to go for a better fullback eventually, and like some Barcelonistas already said on another forum, this is probably a clear sign of Barca looking for at least one more fullback (Abidal, if he can force his way out of France).

bybuti
27-06-2007, 12:17:PM
i have an idea to make a signature 300x30 pixels, and to write in it FC BARCELONA SGF MEMBER or different, just give ur ideas how to write and i will try to make some sigs :D

for example

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3148/fcbsgf1ze8.jpg

Da Kid
27-06-2007, 04:51:PM
nice

Vedran-10
27-06-2007, 06:11:PM
i have an idea to make a signature 300x30 pixels, and to write in it FC BARCELONA SGF MEMBER or different, just give ur ideas how to write and i will try to make some sigs :D

for example

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3148/fcbsgf1ze8.jpg

I don't know how popular those will be amongst Barcelonistas here. Unlike fans of some other teams, we don't really use them.

bybuti
27-06-2007, 08:12:PM
I don't know how popular those will be amongst Barcelonistas here. Unlike fans of some other teams, we don't really use them.
:S it was just a suggestion :D u know better ;)

big al
28-06-2007, 01:31:AM
hey guys i need a new sig , who can help me out hehe

bybuti
28-06-2007, 12:38:PM
hey guys i need a new sig , who can help me out hehe

Barça Sig ????

i will try to make one these days :P be patient ;)

big al
28-06-2007, 07:18:PM
Barça Sig ????

i will try to make one these days :P be patient ;)

thanks mate i really apreciated. :ewan:

zlojack
28-06-2007, 07:24:PM
Looks like Abidal is just about in.

And Sandro Rosell is talking smack again. This guy just never shuts up :kader:

Dream Team
28-06-2007, 09:30:PM
From my list of priorities(LB, DM, FW and CB) we've got three and they're working to get a CB. Besides Henry is between them.

This is being a great summer.

mcq
28-06-2007, 10:30:PM
abidal is coming, 15 million euros

big al
29-06-2007, 04:31:AM
abidal is coming, 15 million euros

yep, lyon wanted 20 and barca would only pay 12 , so with this i guess both are happy.

bybuti
29-06-2007, 11:41:AM
he came in barca http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/thumbnails/199_150/Imatges/2006-2007/futbol/noticies/juny/abidal_3.jpg

at 13:30 he will present :P

big al
30-06-2007, 12:20:AM
:rockman:

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9084/abidalbarcelonadesthr7.jpg

Mexi
30-06-2007, 05:44:AM
I really don't want Eto'o to leave, Rikjaard should jusy keep him and play with 3 strikers at once, that would be tight!

zlojack
30-06-2007, 08:14:AM
Eto'o is not leaving.... so far.

$teauA
30-06-2007, 11:13:AM
Is Chivu really needed at Barca?

oh and Vedran, how dare you not include Hagi in your legends section. tsk tsk my friend :read:

Vedran-10
30-06-2007, 02:57:PM
Eto'o can't leave. It simply can't happen.

Chivu is more than needed:

- Puyol can't defend by himself, we do need a second CB

- Thuram is too slow for our style of football and the Camp Nou is sometimes too big for him so we definitely need another quality defender. I don't want to depend on Lilian.

- Rafa had a horrible season, so obviously we can't depend on him neither.

- Puyol will miss the start of the season due to injury

- If we don't sign another DM, Rafa could sometimes be moved there to try to cover for Yaya should he not be available, so Chivu will be very useful.

I think Chivu will come to Barcelona, and I have no doubts he will get more than enough playing time. He won't suffer with us, that's certain. He will only win titles and be part of one of the most attractive teams ever to play the game. He can only benefit in the blaugrana, and I can't wait for someone as good as him to join us.

Besides, isn't he also an LB? He will get more than enough chances, everyone will play.

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Saviola seems to be linked with Madrid. Haha.

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Milan want Motta. It seems we are pushing our luck trying to negotiate a good deal. I don't know why we're doing that since
- Motta isn't good enough to bring us a good deal, even 5M would be great for him IMO
- we don't need the man, and the goal is to sell him for whatever price, so we don't have to pay his wages
Just sell him, the price doesn't matter. I know we usually sell players too cheaply, but this one really should go one way or the other, so I would just accept any offer that comes in.

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Abidal was bought for 15M, and I hope we also have to pay additional fees because those will occur in case we win the CL in the next four years. He'll have Saviola's former number. The first page has been updated.

Mexi
30-06-2007, 06:52:PM
I don't think Rafa will leave 'cause now that Puyol got injured that leaves a door opened for him and also Giovani Dos Santos will get bumped up from Barcelona B, hopefully he has a great season with a lot of PT!

big al
01-07-2007, 10:55:PM
what happen to puyol and how much time will he be out?

Stotty
01-07-2007, 11:45:PM
How'd La Liga go this season? no? CL maybe? no? Oh well :) Better luck next year (H)

Dream Team
02-07-2007, 12:11:AM
I'm sure you knew that it was stupid to come here and say it but I guess you couldn't resist.


what happen to puyol and how much time will he be out?He got injured for 3 months. They say that he won't be fit for the start of the season but since it's Puyol, I bet he will.

big al
02-07-2007, 12:16:AM
How'd La Liga go this season? no? CL maybe? no? Oh well :) Better luck next year (H)

bravo! bravo! :clapwap: , congrats, you just achieve beeing a complete dick. :mexican:

big al
02-07-2007, 12:18:AM
I'm sure you knew that it was stupid to come here and say it but I guess you couldn't resist.


He got injured for 3 months. They say that he won't be fit for the start of the season but since it's Puyol, I bet he will.

yes i know he is a warrior , he would play with one freaking leg if he could. lets hope hell be fit by then. (H)

Stotty
02-07-2007, 12:31:AM
bravo! bravo! :clapwap: , congrats, you just achieve beeing a complete dick. :mexican:

*reels in

"Crikey mate, this is a big un!"

Dream Team
03-07-2007, 01:48:PM
The CB signing is taking too long compared to the others. Chivu is now more complicated and Juventus are trying to sign Milito. I hope Barça can sign one of them. It's the last piece that we need.

justhammy
03-07-2007, 05:54:PM
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=342935

We are in pole position ;) Appartently Barca and Inter pulled off ;)

Vedran-10
03-07-2007, 06:42:PM
I think we should contact Zaragoza and offer them the 20M. Where's the harm in that? We'll fork out that sum sooner or later, so better do it now, on a proven player before he signs for Juventus. Otherwise, we'll have to search the market for someone else, and even if we do end up paying less, it will be on a less talented defender, so why the holdup? Give Zaragoza the money they want, since Milito really wants to play for us. In his case we don't have to fear the player's demands, he'll be easy to negotiate with and he has a desire to play for FC Barcelona. This is crystal clear for me, and hopefully it is for Txiki and Ferran, too.

We can't not buy a CB, IMO. I don't want another season of relying on Thuram and Marquez, and I don't really care how fantastic the Mexican is in the Copa America. I'm only interested in his blaugrana performances, and until he excels there, I want to have an alternative.

Sign Gabi Milito, PLEASE!

Mexi
04-07-2007, 12:23:AM
Barcelona is trying to sign Frank Lampard! :)

big al
04-07-2007, 12:52:AM
**** milito and **** chivu, andrade is our man mates, milito is mainly a dirty sob and chivu is very prone to injurys not to mention i think he is very overrated, i dont know whats the point and fuzz fighting for chivu, i dont consider him any better than marquez, and btw for any of you who havent seen the copa america recently , marquez is the best cb by the press in the first 2 matches in the tournament , and believe you me, hes is back, hes been tremendously awesome, comanding and his timing is back too...., so i think its does matter how he is doing in the copa america, at least he is having more activity than chivu and we are getting a good view whats going on with him ... rijkaard already mention he counts with him and edmilson for next season... one bad season agaisnt 3 good ones by marquez deserves better by us, i would put my hands in the fire for him over chivu and milito any day.

big al
04-07-2007, 01:09:AM
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=342935

We are in pole position ;) Appartently Barca and Inter pulled off ;)

well iam very glad you guys are getting him , he is one less obstacle for us to get andrade ;) if only juventus would finally decided to get milito it all would be fine.

Dream Team
04-07-2007, 01:16:AM
I get your point but I disagree. I'm in the middle, between you and Vedran. If we can't get Milito or Chivu, I hope we don't get someone else because it would be a waste. I'd rather stick with Márquez and Thuram. But I do think we need a defender who can play on the left. We've been playing with Puyol on the left for years but that's not his natural position. Milito is worth the effort.

Like Vedran, I don't really trust the performances in the NT. Ronaldinho was never too good with Brasil. Puyol or Casillas are other examples.

big al
04-07-2007, 02:12:AM
I get your point but I disagree. I'm in the middle, between you and Vedran. If we can't get Milito or Chivu, I hope we don't get someone else because it would be a waste. I'd rather stick with Márquez and Thuram. But I do think we need a defender who can play on the left. We've been playing with Puyol on the left for years but that's not his natural position. Milito is worth the effort.

Like Vedran, I don't really trust the performances in the NT. Ronaldinho was never too good with Brasil. Puyol or Casillas are other examples.

i know i sounded really overexcited hehe, it happens , but heres my point on all of this, im not against on getting a new cb , even so that we bench marquez, i almost sure rijkaard will keep his ongoing rotation system, so iam pretty sure he will be playing around with marquez, puyol , whoever we get , and maybe thuram if he stays that is.
About who we get, well thats another story, ist seems chivu is ready to go to madrid so lets be realistic and start forgetting about him, about milito iam not doubting he is a really good defender, but its seems to me he is really dirty in the style of coloccini or javi navarro, i just dont like that about him, he will have a really important role on our lineup , and i dont wanna player prone to yellow and red cards.
i really like andrade, he has more of a phisique than puyol, marquez, milito and chivu, he is better in the air and faster than all of them too, he maybe not have the timing that puyol has or the vision to go upfront that marquez and chivu have, but he compensates that with his strenght and stanima, but most importantly he has the better "la liga" experience in comparison with chivu and milito, i read in the madrid thread a post by socrates were he mentions about calcio defenders coming to spain and that most of them fail, and i agree, dont know why but it happens , must be the diferent styles of play i guess, i just dont like defenders coming from the calcio either, maybe zambrotta could be the exception , but he made some huge errors too last season that cost us points.

so all in all i am in agreement we get a new cb, the who well that its never up to us, i just hope its andrade, and if we have to bench marquez so be it, we just cant get rid of him, he could be very useful.

Vedran-10
04-07-2007, 01:39:PM
Well, I don't see Milito's aggressiveness as a con, but rather a pro. I think we need some more "bad guys" in Barca. I want players who can tackle the hell out of the opposition, because the players we have either don't tackle very much or are not very good at it.

The defenders who come to La Liga from Serie A mostly fail because in Italy the style is defensive and every defender has good cover from the DMs. In Spain, the midfielders are a little less defensive so the CBs are often left one-on-one with an attacker which almost never happens in Italy. With the DMs that play in Serie A: Gattuso, Vieira, Cambiasso, Ambrosini etc every defender has an easier job, but in our league all of them are exposed and that's a situation they're not used to. They're all great zone defenders, but when they have to man mark because there's no one else to help them, it's
a problem because La Liga has the best offensive players in the world.

Personally, I'm happy with Zambrotta. Considering the fact he came from Italy to the most offensive-minded team on the planet, and he actually did ok despite the bad season by most players on the team, I would hate to see him leave. I have faith that he'll again be the best fullback in the world.

I agree we shouldn't get rid of Rafa, but rather give him the benefit of the doubt because he did have very good seasons with us. However, I don't want to depend on him playing well. I know he's a great player, but great players don't always meet expectations and I don't want to risk another season of having a slow Thuram and an underperforming Marquez as the only options for the second CB position. It's too risky, simple as that.

justhammy
04-07-2007, 03:43:PM
i know i sounded really overexcited hehe, it happens , but heres my point on all of this, im not against on getting a new cb , even so that we bench marquez, i almost sure rijkaard will keep his ongoing rotation system, so iam pretty sure he will be playing around with marquez, puyol , whoever we get , and maybe thuram if he stays that is.
About who we get, well thats another story, ist seems chivu is ready to go to madrid so lets be realistic and start forgetting about him, about milito iam not doubting he is a really good defender, but its seems to me he is really dirty in the style of coloccini or javi navarro, i just dont like that about him, he will have a really important role on our lineup , and i dont wanna player prone to yellow and red cards.
i really like andrade, he has more of a phisique than puyol, marquez, milito and chivu, he is better in the air and faster than all of them too, he maybe not have the timing that puyol has or the vision to go upfront that marquez and chivu have, but he compensates that with his strenght and stanima, but most importantly he has the better "la liga" experience in comparison with chivu and milito, i read in the madrid thread a post by socrates were he mentions about calcio defenders coming to spain and that most of them fail, and i agree, dont know why but it happens , must be the diferent styles of play i guess, i just dont like defenders coming from the calcio either, maybe zambrotta could be the exception , but he made some huge errors too last season that cost us points.

so all in all i am in agreement we get a new cb, the who well that its never up to us, i just hope its andrade, and if we have to bench marquez so be it, we just cant get rid of him, he could be very useful.
In Italy they defend way deeper than in Spain. In Spain most defenders are at the half line all the time. Thats why Samuel struggled at Real. Thats why Cannavaro struggled at the beginning of the season. Because they have acres of space behind them and they arent used to that.

Thelonious
05-07-2007, 04:20:AM
Barcelona is trying to sign Frank Lampard! :)
I doubt it, Iniesta, Xavi and Deco are probably competing for one spot in the team and they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lampard.

big al
05-07-2007, 08:33:AM
I doubt it, Iniesta, Xavi and Deco are probably competing for one spot in the team and they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lampard.

yeah i also dont know whats the point in going for lampard having those players you mention, the priorty should be a CB, then maybe if a another midfielder has to come it should another DM, and get rid of edmilson but i dont think this is gonna happen either , rijkaard and laporta already stated they count with him for next season.

btw we have 3 new signings but have you guys notice theirs no concrete news whos going out, only rumours, except for gio who i think hes already gone to feyenoord, we have a lot of free players but no concrete offers were they are going.

here's a list of rumours

- motta to milan, fiorentina, roma ( why? who nows hahaha)

- guddy to manchester ( smart move for him and us, i think we can get some good mula on this one. )

- giuly to juventus, lyon , monaco ( from all this list , he is the least i want him to go )

- silvinho ( dont have any news , but he needs to go too )

- ezquerro to villarreal , athletic ( oh please let it be true )

- saviola to zaragoza, villarreal, real madrid, juventus ( oh were oh were will he end up? , whoever gets him is gonna be lucky bastard he will come free,young, and hungry for goals.

- thuram to marseille ( iam kinda in a limbo on this one , tought he had some good games, he looked very slow and innocent on others its pretty obvious he isnt any more the tutu we all knew , but if he goes we will only have marquez, puyol and a new CB to choose from.)

- oleguer ( nobody wants him but i wanna dream hahaha)

Kulixs
05-07-2007, 02:17:PM
yeah i also dont know whats the point in going for lampard having those players you mention, the priorty should be a CB, then maybe if a another midfielder has to come it should another DM, and get rid of edmilson but i dont think this is gonna happen either , rijkaard and laporta already stated they count with him for next season.

btw we have 3 new signings but have you guys notice theirs no concrete news whos going out, only rumours, except for gio who i think hes already gone to feyenoord, we have a lot of free players but no concrete offers were they are going.

here's a list of rumours

- motta to milan, fiorentina, roma ( why? who nows hahaha)

- guddy to manchester ( smart move for him and us, i think we can get some good mula on this one. )

- giuly to juventus, lyon , monaco ( from all this list , he is the least i want him to go )

- silvinho ( dont have any news , but he needs to go too )

- ezquerro to villarreal , athletic ( oh please let it be true )

- saviola to zaragoza, villarreal, real madrid, juventus ( oh were oh were will he end up? , whoever gets him is gonna be lucky bastard he will come free,young, and hungry for goals.

- thuram to marseille ( iam kinda in a limbo on this one , tought he had some good games, he looked very slow and innocent on others its pretty obvious he isnt any more the tutu we all knew , but if he goes we will only have marquez, puyol and a new CB to choose from.)

- oleguer ( nobody wants him but i wanna dream hahaha) There's no way Gudjohnsen is going to Man Utd now, might aswell cross that one off, especially with Tevez close to a deal. He seem's pretty intent on proving himself at Barca.

bybuti
05-07-2007, 02:44:PM
@ big_al

here is bro one sig that i promise some days ago (maybe weeks) lol

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4130/fcbsigbybutivq2.jpg

i hope u like it :D

big al
06-07-2007, 12:07:AM
@ big_al

here is bro one sig that i promise some days ago (maybe weeks) lol

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4130/fcbsigbybutivq2.jpg

i hope u like it :D

oh men thank very much dude , its freaking awesome, iam going to put it right now , thanks again for your time to make it dude.

Awax
06-07-2007, 04:25:AM
Nice sig (Y)

Dreams Fc
06-07-2007, 04:41:AM
:corn:
No. Position Player
1 GK Víctor Valdés
2 DF Juliano Belletti
4 DF Rafael Márquez
5 DF Carles Puyol (captain)
6 MF Xavi (vice-captain)
7 FW Eiður Guðjohnsen
8 MF Ludovic Giuly
9 FW Samuel Eto'o
10 MF Ronaldinho
11 DF Gianluca Zambrotta
14 FW Thierry Henry
15 MF Edmílson
16 DF Sylvinho
17 MF Yaya Touré
19 FW Lionel Messi
20 MF Deco
21 DF Lilian Thuram
22 DF Éric Abidal
23 DF Oleguer Presas
24 MF Andrés Iniesta
25 GK Albert Jorquera
26 DF Olmo
28 GK Rubén Martínez
31 FW Giovanni dos Santos
32 MF Marc Crosas
35 FW Bojan

InNo. Position Player
14 FW Thierry Henry (€24m from Arsenal [8])
17 MF Yaya Touré (€12m from Monaco [9])
22 DF Éric Abidal (€15m from Lyon [10])
FW Maxi Lopez (Loan return from RCD Mallorca)




OutNo. Position Player
12 DF Giovanni van Bronckhorst (to Feyenoord Rotterdam, Bosman transfer)[11]
22 FW Javier Saviola (Contract expired)
3 DF Thiago Motta (Contract expired)
18 FW Santiago Ezquerro (Contract expired)
FW Maxi Lopez (Loan to Sporting Lisbon)
:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

Mauricio
06-07-2007, 04:45:AM
Hope Rafa stays, he is awesome he had a horrilbe season thats true but hey even Ronaldinho played at his lowest level a lot of games.

Man i cant wait to see Dos Santos, saldy he wont have much play time, Barcelon should loan him to a middle table team or to a foreing club, at least half season so we can all see what real peace of talent he is

Mexi
06-07-2007, 08:31:AM
Dude Gio dos Santos will be a great sub-for Ronaldinho!

bybuti
06-07-2007, 12:23:PM
look what our new star has made :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdT_cJm81Cc

here u have the goals that he scored against gambia in u-20 championship :)

THE SECOND GOAL IS AWESOME

GO GO GIO DOS SANTOS :bouncy: :bouncy:

bybuti
06-07-2007, 12:41:PM
:corn:
No. Position Player
1 GK Víctor Valdés
2 DF Juliano Belletti
4 DF Rafael Márquez
5 DF Carles Puyol (captain)
6 MF Xavi (vice-captain)
7 FW Eiður Guðjohnsen
8 MF Ludovic Giuly
9 FW Samuel Eto'o
10 MF Ronaldinho
11 DF Gianluca Zambrotta
14 FW Thierry Henry
15 MF Edmílson
16 DF Sylvinho
17 MF Yaya Touré
19 FW Lionel Messi
20 MF Deco
21 DF Lilian Thuram
22 DF Éric Abidal
23 DF Oleguer Presas
24 MF Andrés Iniesta
25 GK Albert Jorquera
26 DF Olmo
28 GK Rubén Martínez
31 FW Giovanni dos Santos
32 MF Marc Crosas
35 FW Bojan

InNo. Position Player
14 FW Thierry Henry (€24m from Arsenal [8])
17 MF Yaya Touré (€12m from Monaco [9])
22 DF Éric Abidal (€15m from Lyon [10])
FW Maxi Lopez (Loan return from RCD Mallorca)




OutNo. Position Player
12 DF Giovanni van Bronckhorst (to Feyenoord Rotterdam, Bosman transfer)[11]
22 FW Javier Saviola (Contract expired)
3 DF Thiago Motta (Contract expired)
18 FW Santiago Ezquerro (Contract expired)
FW Maxi Lopez (Loan to Sporting Lisbon)
:bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

Find a place for Gabri Milito ;) :bob:

Mexi
06-07-2007, 08:44:PM
look what our new star has made :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdT_cJm81Cc

here u have the goals that he scored against gambia in u-20 championship :)

THE SECOND GOAL IS AWESOME

GO GO GIO DOS SANTOS :bouncy: :bouncy:

What a goal! :corn:

Icky Thump
07-07-2007, 05:31:PM
Better pictures of the new away kit

http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237743-414_1.jpg

http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237743-414.jpg

http://shop.fcbarcelona.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_237743-414_2.jpg

vitu
07-07-2007, 09:46:PM
those are very nice

Bummy_JaB
08-07-2007, 09:08:PM
Man you guys finally get a nice away kit. It looks so nice that I might get myself a Henry one.

bybuti
08-07-2007, 10:25:PM
awesome kit :D i like the color :)

Vedran-10
10-07-2007, 09:12:PM
sav*la joined Madrid.

Have fun, you money-sucking leach. That club deserves a player like him, it's a perfect fit!

For me, there's no doubt this was done because he was our player. He won't get playing time there so it's business as usual for him. The big cheques keep coming in while he watches his team play. Ridiculous. This "player" doesn't care about football at all.

Tosiek
10-07-2007, 09:25:PM
He's not a first and the last one who did like that.

He had no chances to play in first squad, even in match squad, so it was obvious he will leave. But if he can get a bigger cash there but still sit on the bench, it's his choice.

I know that moving from Barca to Real and in other way is not "allowed", but many players would do the same on his place. I'm not defending Saviola, I would also get mad if De Rossi would leave Roma for Lazio for example ( I know it's a ridiculous example).

Jaouadinho
11-07-2007, 01:26:AM
sav*la joined Madrid.

Have fun, you money-sucking leach. That club deserves a player like him, it's a perfect fit!

For me, there's no doubt this was done because he was our player. He won't get playing time there so it's business as usual for him. The big cheques keep coming in while he watches his team play. Ridiculous. This "player" doesn't care about football at all.
iam sure its not all about the money just most of it, u have to admit barca treated him badly he wasnt getting any minutes even when twetoo and messi were injured he had been on loan for the past 2 seasons, rijkaard never wanted him from day one.

"prfect fit" yeh just like twatoo is the perfect fit with ur club mate.

vitu
11-07-2007, 06:32:AM
I think he deserved some play time at Barcelona and he never got it. Rijkaar had something against him or something. I honestly think he did good by leaving Barca.

big al
11-07-2007, 08:13:AM
He's not a first and the last one who did like that.

He had no chances to play in first squad, even in match squad, so it was obvious he will leave. But if he can get a bigger cash there but still sit on the bench, it's his choice.

I know that moving from Barca to Real and in other way is not "allowed", but many players would do the same on his place. I'm not defending Saviola, I would also get mad if De Rossi would leave Roma for Lazio for example ( I know it's a ridiculous example).



iam sure its not all about the money just most of it, u have to admit barca treated him badly he wasnt getting any minutes even when twetoo and messi were injured he had been on loan for the past 2 seasons, rijkaard never wanted him from day one.

"prfect fit" yeh just like twatoo is the perfect fit with ur club mate.


I think he deserved some play time at Barcelona and he never got it. Rijkaar had something against him or something. I honestly think he did good by leaving Barca.


maybe so mates, but if its playing time he needed why go to madrid?, thats why i do agree with vedran he is a money grabbing asswipe, i mean saviola must be stupid to not know he is going to get as much playing time he did at barca, i mean its ruud, robinho, higuain, raul , then him, ohh and did i forget maybe soldado too. either that or its raul and higuain the ones that get benched big time which i dont see it happening, thats why its pretty ovbious saviola did it for the mula, zaragoza and villarreal were perfects teams for him to get the playing time he needed..... so dont get confuse or feel pitty for him on barca's account, cause it wasnt playing time he was looking in the first place.
its ironic how everybody including barca fans wondered if rijkaard had something personal against saviola, well now things come a little more clear , maybe rijkaard knew more about him than everybody else. ;)

Socrates
11-07-2007, 08:25:AM
I thought everyone knew Saviola's intention's after he rejected restructering his contract back a couple season's ago. The players during the Gaspart era had huge contracts which were sucking the club dry and while most of the players did work with the club and made a more reasonable contract Saviola refused to do so and keep earning his big contract, from than on it all went downhill ( and rightly so ).

With that being said, we just got a very good player for free ( reports are saying 2 million euros net for Saviola is what he will sign for ). I think he will see a good amount of time for us, Ruud won't go all season withtout getting an injury like he somehow did this last season with us ( infact he might still be injured at the start of the season ) and Higuain still needs time to perfect his finishing and decision making while Saviola already has that.

justhammy
11-07-2007, 11:12:AM
Even if his intention was money, he still deserves a big club. The guy knows what he can do with a ball. And most of us here also know. So Real Madrid is a good club for him. He is good enough for Barca and every other top team. But really you cant deny it. Rijkaard f*cked his career up a bit. The guy was a sensation at Barca! He was worth all his money. He was as big as Messi when they had the same age. (although I have to admit that Messi's dribbling is out of this world) He scored 11 goals in his U-20 WC. He scored alot for Barca. So it would be the same as if a new coach came and benched Messi for no reason.

Tosiek
11-07-2007, 12:01:PM
I do agree with you^^.

I'm sure Saviola can be really BIG again, if he only gets a chance. He and RVN together will be an unstoppable duo. (Y)

Axolote
11-07-2007, 02:54:PM
Saviola is Great...

Rijkaard still thinks that Maxi Lopez, Ezquerro and Gudjonsen are better...

justhammy
11-07-2007, 09:13:PM
Saviola is Great...

Rijkaard still thinks that Maxi Lopez, Ezquerro and Gudjonsen are better...
Maybe he is on drugs. Really if you look at his face you can see it ;) No but really Rijkaard is really crazy in the head if thinks that!

solaimaa
11-07-2007, 10:26:PM
rijkaard did no such thing, if he can't figure out after 2 seasons on loan that he's not needed, then i don't know what it would have taken to get it through his head. nobody can blame rijkaard for ruining his career, he did it to himself by not leaving. but joining madrid...man that's messed up. he's hardly going to get any more playing time, just going to be sitting on a different bench.

can't wait to see the reaction he'll get from at the camp nou

solaimaa
11-07-2007, 10:29:PM
by the way, we've officially signed gabi milito from real zaragoza! what a great buy, i can't wait for the next season to start now! we've made fantastic signings this break, and i can't wait to see barca in action. given our siginings, what do you guys think the starting linup will be next season?

theo
11-07-2007, 10:49:PM
rijkaard did no such thing, if he can't figure out after 2 seasons on loan that he's not needed, then i don't know what it would have taken to get it through his head. nobody can blame rijkaard for ruining his career, he did it to himself by not leaving.

You actually blame him for being loyal? :|
No wonder he's going to Real.

Axolote
11-07-2007, 11:17:PM
Saviola never talked trash, he was so respectful to Barca and his fans, he never was a problem, he just trained and scored goals...

IMO, he deserved a better way out, a few minutes against Espanyol would have been nice...

And, he is a quiet signing by Real, he isnt a 24 million super buy...so i believe if he must start in the bench, he will, and fight for a spot in the starting XI with loyalty...

Now, i will root for Barca (Messi) and Real (Saviola and Roman?)

big al
12-07-2007, 12:36:AM
Even if his intention was money, he still deserves a big club. The guy knows what he can do with a ball. And most of us here also know. So Real Madrid is a good club for him. He is good enough for Barca and every other top team. But really you cant deny it. Rijkaard f*cked his career up a bit. The guy was a sensation at Barca! He was worth all his money. He was as big as Messi when they had the same age. (although I have to admit that Messi's dribbling is out of this world) He scored 11 goals in his U-20 WC. He scored alot for Barca. So it would be the same as if a new coach came and benched Messi for no reason.


You actually blame him for being loyal? :|
No wonder he's going to Real.


Saviola never talked trash, he was so respectful to Barca and his fans, he never was a problem, he just trained and scored goals...

IMO, he deserved a better way out, a few minutes against Espanyol would have been nice...

And, he is a quiet signing by Real, he isnt a 24 million super buy...so i believe if he must start in the bench, he will, and fight for a spot in the starting XI with loyalty...

Now, i will root for Barca (Messi) and Real (Saviola and Roman?)

its not loyalty , it was comfort , lets not confuse one thing with the other, ill just give you an example, did you guys knew when the loan spells ended with monaco and sevilla , both offered sweet deals but he refused, he knew he was not going to be starter in barca still he wanted to stay in barca getting the big bucks, not loyalty, not playing time , but money....plus barca kept paying his huge wage and got rid of him till his contract expire, so how is that treating him wrong? , beeing with a big club has nothing to do with becoming a great player, in sevilla its were he exploded tought its a not a huge club, the smart thing for him was to stay in sevilla getting a decent wage and by now could have become and icon for sevilla, but nooooouu!.
anyways , if we have somebody to blame for all of this is etoo, for beeing so good that is lol.

Lean
12-07-2007, 05:06:AM
Have you ever thought that maybe he was trying to become an icon for Barça?

big al
12-07-2007, 08:44:AM
Have you ever thought that maybe he was trying to become an icon for Barça?

of course, but that was never the case for him, because of etoo , dinho, messi, the truth is barca never won nothing because of him, he never contribuite enough giving the wage he was costing barca, in other words he wasnt pulling his own weight, the truth is he is a good player but never as key as dinho , etoo , messi or even deco are , ill bet anything he knew that or at least rijkaard hint him that. And now lets see , i dont think or dont expect anytime soon for him to become an icon for madrid.
btw soldado just signed for madrid till 2012, go figure right? saviola is gonna have fun now lol.

Dream Team
12-07-2007, 09:00:AM
Saviola stayed until his contract ended, wich is his right. He never had any intention to help Barça and his only interest was his huge Gaspart contract.

He's a good bench player and he won't complain if he receives his paycheck. I won't miss him. Everything was a ******* drama. When he didn't play - drama, when he scored a goal - we need to renew him as soon as possible. I'm so tired of this Saviola saga. Good riddance.




Anyway.. we got another argentinian. MILITO. I've wanted this signing for years. Everytime I saw him with Zaragoza I wondered why we had not signed him yet. Every summer there was some interest but for some reason we didn't come. Now he's ours.

Abidal-Milito-Puyol-Zambrotta

Now that looks GOOD.

justhammy
12-07-2007, 11:40:AM
its not loyalty , it was comfort , lets not confuse one thing with the other, ill just give you an example, did you guys knew when the loan spells ended with monaco and sevilla , both offered sweet deals but he refused, he knew he was not going to be starter in barca still he wanted to stay in barca getting the big bucks, not loyalty, not playing time , but money....plus barca kept paying his huge wage and got rid of him till his contract expire, so how is that treating him wrong? , beeing with a big club has nothing to do with becoming a great player, in sevilla its were he exploded tought its a not a huge club, the smart thing for him was to stay in sevilla getting a decent wage and by now could have become and icon for sevilla, but nooooouu!.
anyways , if we have somebody to blame for all of this is etoo, for beeing so good that is lol.
Ok there is some truth in what you say, BUT you say that you guys didnt want a single thing with him. Well that is true, but did you also remember that Barca team he was in?! It was the worst Barca team I'v ever seen and I mean by a big margin. Rivaldo was getting old and leaving, Kluivert wasnt the same, it was the second Holland NT, you guys had a SH*TTY Coach and it just was a very average team that would fight for the 4th 5th place. He was the only thing to remember in that squad. But I can understand what you say, the competition is deadly atm with Henry, Messi and Eto'o. (But dont deny that Saviola has been great for you guys the first years ;))

Congratz with Milito btw ;) That will complete a very ugly CB position for you guys ;) They look the same with that hair dont they? Milito and Puyol.. just joking, great player! ;)

Axolote
12-07-2007, 02:07:PM
Congratulations on the Milito signing...he is an amazing defender...

On the Saviola matter, he was loved by 90% of the Barca fans (now that could change, he became a madrilista), and was a target of all Sport.es trash before he signed with madrid...

mannu
12-07-2007, 02:15:PM
Abidal-Milito-Puyol-Zambrotta

Now that looks GOOD.

isn't abidal a LB??

Vedran-10
12-07-2007, 02:18:PM
All of you who don't follow Barca don't really know what you're talking about.

Saviola wasn't mistreated. He came during that idiot Gaspart, he got a fat salary that he didn't deserve, and so did most on the team. We were in debt, so a new financial policy had to be established. That included smaller salaries, and most players accepted them. For some players it didn't matter because they weren't on high salaries anyway, but Saviola was one of those heavily overpaid players whom we needed to accept smaller contracts in order to help the club recover. He didn't want to do it because he loves money too much. I don't know why Rijkaard never liked him, but it doesn't really matter. The point is, we wanted to get rid of him because he didn't satisfy the criteria. The manager didn't want him and that isn't bad treatment, it's a decision made by the man who runs the team. Saviola played before Rijkaard came, and if he was really as good as some of you are saying, he'd be playing for us now. Some players kept their place, but Saviola didn't. This isn't Rijkaard's fault if he doesn't seem to think Saviola is good enough.

We offered him an exit many times, but he never wanted to leave, because the salary was too good. All of you should know that this player only cares about money. He'd rather not play and get a fat salary than play and get less money. That's not something a good footballer player who loves his job would choose. But Saviola did, and it's disgusting how someone can care about money so much despite already being rich.
So don't fool yourself by thinking he wanted to be loyal or an icon or whatever. He was in Barca because of money, he was still on his Gaspart contract and it was too much cash to turn down. He knew he wouldn't play because the manager didn't want him. Rijkaard doesn't value saviola, he doesn't think he's good enough and he certainly doesn't think he should be getting all that money. Saviola was aware of this, and he still decided to stay because the contract obided us to pay him every week.
saviola was promised a new offer when he went out on loan, he was promised a chance. The former was fulfilled by offering him a financially weaker deal that he rejected. If he really wanted to become an icon, he would have stayed despite getting less money. The latter was fulfilled by actually giving him a number in the team last season. He had his chances and he didn't satisfy.

Saviola didn't succeed here and he was heavily overpaid, so we wanted to sell him. He didn't want to leave so we allowed him to play another season with us. He didn't do anything (just like he didn't do anything before that), so we decided not to renew someone who is nothing special and wants too much money.

And please, don't:
- compare saviola to Messi, because it's insulting to the great Leo. He's much better than saviola will ever be, there's no comparison and only a Madridista can put them in the same sentence. Ridiculous.
- compare saviola to Eto'o. Eto'o really was mistreated in Madrid, he wasn't given a chance to succeed, but rather sent out on loans and played for Madrid B. It's only normal that a player of his calibre decided not to go on loans anymore. He's one of the best in the world. Saviola, on the other hand, got a few chances, failed every time, and still wouldn't leave.
It's ridiculous to compare either one with saviola, because they are a world apart.


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Gabi Milito!!! :rockman:

hehe. Fantastic. That's proper transfer business.

Jaboldinho
12-07-2007, 04:32:PM
I'm really excited of this new deals. The team is starting to look complete. Now we just need to maybe get some players sold and then play a great season. And with this kind of team, it shouldn't be that hard to do. I'm confident we'll have a fight to take the title back where it belongs.

justhammy
13-07-2007, 12:46:AM
All of you who don't follow Barca don't really know what you're talking about.

And please, don't:
- compare saviola to Messi, because it's insulting to the great Leo. He's much better than saviola will ever be, there's no comparison and only a Madridista can put them in the same sentence. Ridiculous.

Im not comparing them to eachother now. Leo is magic. I cant deny that. The kid is superb. But ofcourse I can compare them at the same age, because Saviola was also a prodigy and in his U-21 WC where Messi scored 7 goals he scored 11. Even if one is a forward and the other is an AM, its still a difference. And please, Saviola made his debut at 16 and was named Player of the year in Argentina the year after. The kid was phenomenal when he was a teenager, begin 20s. Now he is 25 and isnt the little kid anymore and now Messi is the big guy and thats fair. Messi is atm just out of this world. On the Eto'o thing I wont comment, because look at it from another side....Raul, Anelka, Morientes. What can I say more?! The guy wasnt good enough at that moment. Now he is a fantastic striker. Good for you guys. But I wont comment on this anymore. Just go to Goal.com and read a article about this. It is pretty interesting.

big al
13-07-2007, 12:55:AM
Ok there is some truth in what you say, BUT you say that you guys didnt want a single thing with him. Well that is true, but did you also remember that Barca team he was in?! It was the worst Barca team I'v ever seen and I mean by a big margin. Rivaldo was getting old and leaving, Kluivert wasnt the same, it was the second Holland NT, you guys had a SH*TTY Coach and it just was a very average team that would fight for the 4th 5th place. He was the only thing to remember in that squad. But I can understand what you say, the competition is deadly atm with Henry, Messi and Eto'o. (But dont deny that Saviola has been great for you guys the first years ;))

Congratz with Milito btw ;) That will complete a very ugly CB position for you guys ;) They look the same with that hair dont they? Milito and Puyol.. just joking, great player! ;)

well yeah , but i never deny he was good , i am just saying he wasnt good enough on barca's standards and because of his wage that was my point, if saviola would accepted a pay cut long ago, maybe we would be talking a very diferent story....

and about milito, thanks dude (Y) , your complements are welcome , uptill now i have been satisfied with what milito has done in copa america, its no secret that iam not the biggest fan for him cause of his dirty ways, and that i prefered andrade, but uptill now he has been looking very concentrated, so thats good, but how he will work with puyol its still to be seen, i hope they make a great pair. :)

p.d. about his hair its bisbal style lol.

Mauricio
13-07-2007, 09:44:PM
Maruqez to warm the bench, what a waist of talent, they should loan him, we is going to lose the great fom he gain in Copa America, best defender of the tournament no doubt, better than millito

Dream Team
13-07-2007, 10:30:PM
It's normal that Márquez is in better form, last season he was injured most of the time and he only played 17 games in la Liga.

I guess now he'll rotate with Touré in the DM position and the CB's. At least that's what I would do.

Mauricio
13-07-2007, 11:30:PM
I herd that Dos Santos is going to be loaned if he doesnt get the EU passport

Yossarian
14-07-2007, 12:46:AM
All of you who don't follow Barca don't really know what you're talking about.

Saviola wasn't mistreated. He came during that idiot Gaspart, he got a fat salary that he didn't deserve, and so did most on the team. We were in debt, so a new financial policy had to be established. That included smaller salaries, and most players accepted them. For some players it didn't matter because they weren't on high salaries anyway, but Saviola was one of those heavily overpaid players whom we needed to accept smaller contracts in order to help the club recover. He didn't want to do it because he loves money too much. I don't know why Rijkaard never liked him, but it doesn't really matter. The point is, we wanted to get rid of him because he didn't satisfy the criteria. The manager didn't want him and that isn't bad treatment, it's a decision made by the man who runs the team. Saviola played before Rijkaard came, and if he was really as good as some of you are saying, he'd be playing for us now. Some players kept their place, but Saviola didn't. This isn't Rijkaard's fault if he doesn't seem to think Saviola is good enough.

We offered him an exit many times, but he never wanted to leave, because the salary was too good. All of you should know that this player only cares about money. He'd rather not play and get a fat salary than play and get less money. That's not something a good footballer player who loves his job would choose. But Saviola did, and it's disgusting how someone can care about money so much despite already being rich.
So don't fool yourself by thinking he wanted to be loyal or an icon or whatever. He was in Barca because of money, he was still on his Gaspart contract and it was too much cash to turn down. He knew he wouldn't play because the manager didn't want him. Rijkaard doesn't value saviola, he doesn't think he's good enough and he certainly doesn't think he should be getting all that money. Saviola was aware of this, and he still decided to stay because the contract obided us to pay him every week.
saviola was promised a new offer when he went out on loan, he was promised a chance. The former was fulfilled by offering him a financially weaker deal that he rejected. If he really wanted to become an icon, he would have stayed despite getting less money. The latter was fulfilled by actually giving him a number in the team last season. He had his chances and he didn't satisfy.

Saviola didn't succeed here and he was heavily overpaid, so we wanted to sell him. He didn't want to leave so we allowed him to play another season with us. He didn't do anything (just like he didn't do anything before that), so we decided not to renew someone who is nothing special and wants too much money.

And please, don't:
- compare saviola to Messi, because it's insulting to the great Leo. He's much better than saviola will ever be, there's no comparison and only a Madridista can put them in the same sentence. Ridiculous.
- compare saviola to Eto'o. Eto'o really was mistreated in Madrid, he wasn't given a chance to succeed, but rather sent out on loans and played for Madrid B. It's only normal that a player of his calibre decided not to go on loans anymore. He's one of the best in the world. Saviola, on the other hand, got a few chances, failed every time, and still wouldn't leave.
It's ridiculous to compare either one with saviola, because they are a world apart.


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Gabi Milito!!! :rockman:

hehe. Fantastic. That's proper transfer business.




good read there, Zka.......woot!!

Jaboldinho
17-07-2007, 07:12:PM
Apparently Barca has sold Giuly to AS Roma for 4.5 million euros.

vitu
17-07-2007, 07:57:PM
wtf...why would they want to sell Giuly? In my opinion he's one of the best players you guys have.

zlojack
17-07-2007, 08:19:PM
wtf...why would they want to sell Giuly? In my opinion he WAS one of the best players you guys had.

Fixed.

Giuly just wasn't going to play much any more. His level had dropped somewhat and with Dos Santos and Bojan pushing from the youth squad plus the emergence of Messi and the signing of Henry, there was no place for Giuly anymore.

I wish him all the best and thank him for his great contribution to the club for the past few years.

vitu
17-07-2007, 08:40:PM
Giuly was one of my favorite players in Barca...He did very good while he was with you guys...too bad he went to Roma :S

zlojack
17-07-2007, 09:00:PM
Giuly was one of my favorite players in Barca...He did very good while he was with you guys...too bad he went to Roma :S

Yeah.. he did a good job, but in the end, he went somewhere where he will play. You're just upset because he went to one of Juve's rivals ;)

vitu
17-07-2007, 09:08:PM
Yeah.. he did a good job, but in the end, he went somewhere where he will play. You're just upset because he went to one of Juve's rivals ;)

You are right.I hate to see one of my favorite players go to Roma:S

Tosiek
17-07-2007, 09:12:PM
You are right.I hate to see one of my favorite players go to Roma:S

Giuly chose the right way. He knows he can be big again and play regularly here. (Y)

solaimaa
19-07-2007, 12:15:PM
has guily been unveiled yet in rome? i haven't seen any photos of him in a roma jersey yet

Tosiek
19-07-2007, 12:41:PM
^^ Shirts for upcoming season haven't been presented yet.

http://www.asroma.pl/news/images/topics/giuly.jpg

Thelonious
19-07-2007, 12:50:PM
Rumours are that Real Madrid are going to buy Iniesta out of his contract
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=477562&CPID=23&clid=178&lid=10&title=Real+in+Iniesta+link
Still a huge fee though I think thats second only to Zidane

Dream Team
19-07-2007, 05:37:PM
Nah. Spanish media.


Iniesta will wear number 8. It was free since Giuly signed for Roma. Good luck to him by the way.


and finally..

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MF806071909_lower.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MF804071909_lower.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MF802071909_lower.jpg


:rockman:

bybuti
20-07-2007, 07:08:PM
boys i wasnt here one time i was on holiday and now i read all posting before :D

i just want to congratulate to all of you for milito sign and now i think we are completed :D percfect defend perfect midfield perfect forward :D

i just cant wait for new season to start :D
i dont want to add anything in saviola case

@ vedran - bro add milito in barça team list ;)

VIVA BARÇA

Mauricio
20-07-2007, 10:44:PM
Cool sig man!!

vitu
21-07-2007, 01:26:AM
indeed, its awesome :D

SlowSilver
21-07-2007, 01:59:AM
isn't abidal a LB??

Yes, hence being on the left.

bybuti
21-07-2007, 11:51:AM
Cool sig man!!

indeed, its awesome :D

which sig??? mine ??? :D

if u like u can use it :D i didnt make it, i took it from sport.es when they had an article about FANTASTIC FOUR of Barça :D

use it if u like ;) np for barça fans :p:ewan:

bybuti
21-07-2007, 12:09:PM
look this photos barça fans, the dream team 2 started the action

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070721/i/r2410339160.jpg?x=380&y=255&sig=xcp_.nKCIbYX0oJ7G9H.Nw--
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070721/i/r116114979.jpg?x=380&y=276&sig=QszEe7IwJnmp6EE4r3Dbqg--
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070721/i/r1542939049.jpg?x=380&y=254&sig=hNPge9rnDbmirI7vG9sSVg--
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Imatges/2007-2008/futbol/noticies/entrenaments/juliol/qm3d0287.jpg

bybuti
21-07-2007, 12:36:PM
ok here you have one simple sig that i made for 5 minutes but its with big meaning :D

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1466/fantastictriobyvw2.jpg

who likes can use ;)

fantastic trio in action ;)

enjoy ;) !!!

Vedran-10
21-07-2007, 01:20:PM
First post updated. If anything is missing/wrong, inform me about it, but I don't know how soon I'll be able to update it again because I don't get a lot of Internet access these days.

Apparently Milito's 12 is a temporary number because he will change it if someone else leaves the club and vacates their number. This could easily be Motta, so fingers crossed.

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All in all, a great summer indeed. We are heavily reinforced now.

VISCA EL BARCA!!!

bybuti
21-07-2007, 01:48:PM
yeah i know it :D good that u change it :) its np if u are late we understand you ;)

SEMPRE BARÇA

jimorrizon
21-07-2007, 06:55:PM
Eto'o: I dont care what Rijkaard said, either one of you is taking my spot specially you Henry, lol....
]http://www.gazzetta.it/Hermes%20Foto/2007/07/21/0JLIWB9R--400x280.jpg

More Pics:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/76/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-barcelona_6_18_44_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/ea/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-fc-barcelona-henry_6_26_57_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/73/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-fc-barcelona-henry_6_13_10_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/13/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-fc-barcelona-henry_6_10_02_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/38/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-fc-barcelona-henry-training_6_42_25_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/97/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-barcelona-training_7_05_47_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/44/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-fc-barcelona-henry_6_47_11_am.jpg

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/42/fullj.getty-fbl-esp-barcelona-training-henry-ronaldinho_6_57_17_am.jpg

big al
23-07-2007, 08:05:AM
dude you forgot the chiquilines

btw, our first friendly is on thursday against scotland's dundee utd and on saturday against hearts


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6139/entrenament22il0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2344/entrenament42vc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cold Aags
24-07-2007, 12:13:AM
Bojan doesn't make the pre-season with the senior team, he is going to play the U-17 WC, and maybe he loses the firsts La Liga matches (N)

Thelonious
24-07-2007, 08:54:AM
I love the racial segregation going on in the pics lol

bybuti
24-07-2007, 03:39:PM
where is the problem with spain national team that they call bojan for all teams u-21, u-20, u-19, u-17 or they just dont want to let him to train with barça :@

this is not good, when e player plays for u-20 why he has to go and play for u-17 :@

Hang0ne
26-07-2007, 08:32:PM
is there a stream of 2nights game against dundee utd?

djgperu1
26-07-2007, 10:11:PM
those henry-ronnie pics look a little homo.... :-puke:

zlojack
26-07-2007, 10:13:PM
those henry-ronnie pics look a little homo.... :-puke:


Wow...thanks for the positive and intelligent contribution. :rolleyes:

djgperu1
26-07-2007, 10:28:PM
Wow...thanks for the positive and intelligent contribution. :rolleyes:

you are welcomed:-paul:

skiptomylou
26-07-2007, 10:30:PM
those henry-ronnie pics look a little homo.... :-puke:

Wanna throw in some racial slurs while you're at it?

:rolleyes:

zlojack
26-07-2007, 10:44:PM
you are welcomed:-paul:

But you are not ;)

Go back to your merengue thread.

skiptomylou
27-07-2007, 07:15:AM
Henry's first goal in Barcelona (H)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mnwa_primer-gol-de-henry-con-el-barca_sport

Jaboldinho
27-07-2007, 09:33:AM
Nice, good to see him get his scoring on right at the first match. Do you have any other info on the match? The score, lineup, performances?

bybuti
27-07-2007, 11:02:AM
yeah perfect start :D with goal hope to score and thousand more :p i read that YAYA had a perfect game :D

Jaboldinho here (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/futbol/temporada_07-08/arxiu_partits/pretemporada/dundee_barcelona/partit.html) you have more info about game, linups and other things.

here you have some pics
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070726/capt.8b7700120f724ad6bec85f9f8e56e222.britain_socc er_dundee_barcelona_xag121.jpg?x=380&y=234&sig=9knnAod4UJmg29ledQ6QrQ--http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070726/capt.3748edc6bc7d42c5a6d2a1316deeaf57.britain_socc er_dundee_barcelona_xag132.jpg?x=253&y=345&sig=j05uxMbZYI6iD6Lpnq19yw--http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070726/i/r3025623844.jpg?x=380&y=263&sig=k5xZSV2eY7F_TN4CUXRcuw-- http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070726/ids_photos_sp/r2461502949.jpg http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070726/i/r2162691993.jpg?x=380&y=269&sig=hwA3Anjo1nhJG3USwy5y1Q--

zlojack
27-07-2007, 05:02:PM
Who's this #4?

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070726/capt.3748edc6bc7d42c5a6d2a1316deeaf57.britain_socc er_dundee_barcelona_xag132.jpg?x=253&y=345&sig=j05uxMbZYI6iD6Lpnq19yw--

vitu
27-07-2007, 05:12:PM
looks a lot like Giuly :(

zlojack
27-07-2007, 05:17:PM
looks a lot like Giuly :(

Sort of does... but he's in Rome...

Jaboldinho
27-07-2007, 05:23:PM
I think it could be Oleguer. At least when looking at the beard. ;)

zlojack
27-07-2007, 06:03:PM
I think it could be Oleguer. At least when looking at the beard. ;)

Maybe... although it doesn't look like him either...:(

Azrael
27-07-2007, 06:38:PM
Marquez?

OrgulloVikingo
27-07-2007, 06:49:PM
Henry's first goal in Barcelona

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2m...el-barca_sport


Yea, brilliant goal...I guess. 1st preseason game and already the ref is helping you guys out. "Penalty" in the 83rd min! LOL:D

skiptomylou
27-07-2007, 07:53:PM
I fail to see your point. Go away now.

Dream Team
27-07-2007, 08:38:PM
#4 was Marc Crosas.

It was the first game so it wasn't a great game. Yaya Touré, Iniesta and Bojan were the best players IMO.

Tomorrow Hearts-Barça.

bybuti
27-07-2007, 09:24:PM
yeah that number 4 is Marc Crosas :D and giovanni had number 19, the young players took numbers that are free :D from players that are missing ;)

yeah Dream Team its true, Rijkaard had very good words for Yaya Toure :D i think he was the man of the match :) anyway its not bad for first game with just 1 week training :)

lets see tomorrow match

vitu
28-07-2007, 03:34:AM
Yea, brilliant goal...I guess. 1st preseason game and already the ref is helping you guys out. "Penalty" in the 83rd min! LOL:D

"Orgullo Culero" and his stupid posts :ewan:

zlojack
28-07-2007, 03:39:AM
"Orgullo Culero" and his stupid posts :ewan:

Nice (H)

OrgulloPendejo is my personal favourite...

OrgulloVikingo
28-07-2007, 03:39:AM
"Orgullo Culero" and his stupid posts :ewan:

Look at your signature. It says alot about your IQ:ewan:

zlojack
28-07-2007, 03:44:AM
Look at your signature. It says alot about your IQ:ewan:

You're soooo intelligent. Wow... I wish I was like you.

vitu
28-07-2007, 04:01:AM
Look at your signature. It says alot about your IQ:ewan:

wow...I guess my signature determines the intelligence level:corn:...I guess b/c i like reggaeton you can make your conclusions...lol...now the name should be "Orgullo Bobolon y mamahuevo"

djgperu1
28-07-2007, 05:40:AM
wow...I guess my signature determines the intelligence level:corn:...I guess b/c i like reggaeton you can make your conclusions...lol...now the name should be "Orgullo Bobolon y mamahuevo"
1. u aint that smart... i noe it for a fact...remember the car?:junior:
2. u insulted him first...
3. u are a real madrid hater :taz:

zlojack
28-07-2007, 05:42:AM
1. u aint that smart... i noe it for a fact...remember the car?:junior:
2. u insulted him first...
3. u are a real madrid hater :taz:

You shouldn't be talking about intelligence with spelling like that.

djgperu1
28-07-2007, 06:46:AM
You shouldn't be talking about intelligence with spelling like that.

as long as people understand what i write, i have no intention of stopping writting in such way nor will i change for one meaningless comment as the one i am now quoting.

u are just looking for inconsistencies to reaffirm ur own intelligence, if in fact u have one....

vitu
28-07-2007, 06:52:AM
as long as people understand what i write, i have no intention of stopping writting in such way nor will i change for one meaningless comment as the one i am now quoting.

u are just looking for inconsistencies to reaffirm ur own intelligence, if in fact u have one....


this sounds too smart for you :D...may i run a plagiarism check?...lol

solaimaa
28-07-2007, 07:24:AM
hey guys, here are highlights of the game vs dundee. looking at those, it makes me miss the clinical finishing of messi!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ljp2kwJv0g

skiptomylou
28-07-2007, 07:32:AM
Great to see Gio playing well.

jimorrizon
28-07-2007, 09:54:AM
Rumor:

Ricardo Osorio (Stuttgart) ----> Barcelona

link: http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idtipusrecurs_PK=7&idnoticia_PK=428088

Jaboldinho
28-07-2007, 09:58:AM
1. u aint that smart... i noe it for a fact...remember the car?:junior:
2. u insulted him first...
3. u are a real madrid hater :taz:

Man, I dunno ho ya talkin' 'bout, but that dood sounz like a true id10t. :rolleyes:

bybuti
28-07-2007, 11:50:AM
u ******* madridista it would be better to go and chat in other threads coz here is not your place so dont spam anymore our thread :@

Yossarian
28-07-2007, 05:45:PM
Hey, could anyone here direct me to those pictures taken when Barca was in LA last season (?) and Kobe greeted Ronnie at the airport?

A buddy of mine, he's a huge fan of both and doesn't believe me that such images exist....he'd get a good kick out of 'em if I could pass them over to him, man.


btw.....watching that highlight vid of the Dundee game and seeing other images of 'em. Dos Santos' likeness to Ronnie is scary, man. It's like you have to do a double or triple take sometimes, man......I'm now fully convinced that, that kid is Ronnie's Regen...I realize that it's implausible since Ronnie is still in the game and in his prime, but CMON, man.....sheesh!!!

skiptomylou
28-07-2007, 05:59:PM
Here's a few from last year in LA.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/skiptomylou_11/kobe_ronaldinho_254.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/skiptomylou_11/foto_210690_CAS.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/skiptomylou_11/04-08-06clinicronaldinhoikobe.jpg

Yossarian
28-07-2007, 06:06:PM
SWEEEET!!!


*touches dicktips with STML*

again, thnx a lot, man. Really appreciate the swift reply.

zlojack
28-07-2007, 06:24:PM
as long as people understand what i write, i have no intention of stopping writting in such way nor will i change for one meaningless comment as the one i am now quoting.

u are just looking for inconsistencies to reaffirm ur own intelligence, if in fact u have one....
That must be it, little boy.

Please **** off back to your Madrid thread and keep your stupid comments to yourself.

Aprende a escribir, antes de insultar la inteligencia de otra persona, idiota.

Yossarian
28-07-2007, 07:03:PM
Here's a few from last year in LA.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/skiptomylou_11/04-08-06clinicronaldinhoikobe.jpg


that one is hilarious, man.

LOL@ the rest of the team's (but especially xavi)) reception towards Kobe. Here he is, most likely bearing a week long hard-on for 'em and all giddy like a child and they couldn't give a **** about 'em and who he is.......lol...probably wonderin where the nearest California pizza is or something.


It's the coming together of the best players in their respective sports since Jordan and Maradona, and to the rest of the guys, it's just another mundane pub tour......I like that.

SlowSilver
28-07-2007, 07:31:PM
as long as people understand what i write, i have no intention of stopping writting in such way nor will i change for one meaningless comment as the one i am now quoting.

u are just looking for inconsistencies to reaffirm ur own intelligence, if in fact u have one....

Dude just get the **** out of here and stop being such an arsehole.

And Vitu, you could be right. That does sound just a touch intellectual for him.

bybuti
29-07-2007, 12:10:AM
bro Kobe was in barcelona 1 or 2 months ago in Mini Estadi watched barca training :D and of course to meet his good friend ronnie

congratulations for barcelonista for the today wining 3-1

ronnie scored 2 (1 from penalty and one with head)
and Dos Santos scored 1 goal from beauty action with henry and bojan :)

the new away kits looks perfect in game :D awesome color :)

some game pics

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070728/i/r3948150855.jpg?x=302&y=345&sig=tnDLPo5oKpjX09PZvhc6Og--http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070728/i/r512406772.jpg?x=225&y=345&sig=69JfT_9xNpNlmAjzYhtkqw-- http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070728/capt.a031c9e6b8944923914b19e41069cca7.britain_socc er_lon827.jpg?x=239&y=345&sig=_e2R_0SgpFGK0IYhQWbK3Q--http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070728/capt.sge.gfe21.280707174954.photo00.photo.default-350x512.jpg?x=235&y=345&sig=kxL6FxLjS8p3ZfH2wImEIA-- http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070728/i/r2831232697.jpg?x=380&y=253&sig=uYWCFTbJsWJ42TkziJtBAg-- http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070728/capt.d1e045b3730e48f3a67818a914fb9c93.britain_socc er_lon828.jpg?x=243&y=345&sig=_p2o32tV1q.7ln1Xw59Wvw--

skiptomylou
29-07-2007, 12:33:AM
Awesome.

And I'm loving the uniforms, they look so classy. I already ordered that shirt. (H)

Yossarian
29-07-2007, 12:45:AM
bro Kobe was in barcelona 1 or 2 months ago in Mini Estadi watched barca training :D and of course to meet his good friend ronnie


]



cool, cool......understood.

Jambo Den
29-07-2007, 01:18:AM
I was at the game today. Barca were - as you'd expect - a few classes above us, but I was very impressed at how hard you guys worked. You worked very hard to track us down whenever we were in possession, and of course when you had the ball you were passing it around like it was a PES game! You seem to already be settling into your passing stride though. Two very good moves for your 2nd and 3rd goals. Penalty decision was a total farce though, but we have previous with that ref, so not a huge surprise! :p

Was a good match in the first half, all the subs we both made killed the game in the 2nd and it dragged on a bit. Out of your players I was most impressed with Xavi, Dos Santos and Krkic; the latter two look like they'll be real, real stars. Ronaldinho made an excellent run for the 2nd goal, but Eto'o needs to find his scoring touch!

Think you can be pleased with your workout today - we clearly have a few things to work on! :$

Vedran-10
29-07-2007, 01:50:AM
It's absolutely fantastic to see Henry in the Barca shirt.

Moreira_Benfica
29-07-2007, 03:18:AM
Damn, Those Kits look awsomeee

vitu
29-07-2007, 10:23:PM
I'm buying that shirt...I love it!

SlowSilver
29-07-2007, 10:35:PM
Very nice kit indeed. Not sure I'll be buying it though. :p

skiptomylou
30-07-2007, 01:29:AM
Here are the goals from the game versus Hearts. It's pretty ****ty quality, and it has some annoying music. But the other had like, one highlight for each goal, so I guess this'll do if you want to see the goals.

Vi5waEWaZLk

Jaboldinho
30-07-2007, 09:05:AM
Those kits are crazy, just so beautiful, that I might buy one too.

I'm guessing that Puyol didn't play, since Ronnie was the captain. And, btw, the guy who scored against us, was Finnish. :)

Vedran-10
30-07-2007, 01:52:PM
Puyol is injured.

bybuti
30-07-2007, 04:21:PM
yeah really the kits are amazing :D the color looks awesome :)

Jambo Den
30-07-2007, 07:22:PM
Those kits are crazy, just so beautiful, that I might buy one too.

I'm guessing that Puyol didn't play, since Ronnie was the captain. And, btw, the guy who scored against us, was Finnish. :)

Yeah I hope Juho gets a chance this year, he seems to score whenever we play him. It seems however that we don't like strikers who score. We'd rather play mince like Bednar :(

Puyol didn't play since he's recovering from a hip operation, Messi and Marquez are still resting from the Copa America.

There's loads of fan pics from Saturday kicking round, but this is my personal favourite (H):

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa230/280901abc/IMG_5601.jpg

jimorrizon
30-07-2007, 08:36:PM
ha ha Thuram with Catalan beeny....

Dream Team
30-07-2007, 08:42:PM
Thuram :rofl: :rofl:

The TV didn't show anything when the two fans went into the field. Thanks for the picture. :D

Num Lock
30-07-2007, 11:57:PM
<3 Tutu :)

bybuti
31-07-2007, 01:34:PM
lol thnx for that nice pic bro :D

he is speaking with ronnie like he know him for 20 years lol :D

jimorrizon
31-07-2007, 09:44:PM
Barca training photos:

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/3a567129-e7ee-4a18-8058-f379dbceb808.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/ccd29e92-29e4-4b07-8783-872ab62b088a.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/20540297-32c2-4f2f-b19d-545b5cc0433f.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/9de5fd83-d545-4074-8176-0f8fbb52629a.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/529f6390-4eb0-4e55-996a-38f3218414a3.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/a8375a07-4a79-4e4d-8aba-dcba6396af30.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/a92bc5e5-c9ec-4d2d-bac0-8a700dcedece.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/a89439fa-c14e-4e72-81f6-3a8d97166eab.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/19b17adf-5454-4ab4-b8cf-efecf1659a89.jpg

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/f7893dfe-cfa9-4208-86a9-13acda755454.jpg

Vedran-10
01-08-2007, 12:00:AM
Thanks for the pictures, Jim. It's great to see that the players are getting along. Hopefully that continues throughout the whole season.

bybuti
01-08-2007, 03:11:PM
hhahahhahhahahhh did any one heard for this

Hannover 96 3:0 real madrid

ahahhahahahha look what "champions" do

and the ******* madridista come to our thread and said " you beat dundee just 1:0 and that from penalty"

congratulations madrid

Sevillista
01-08-2007, 07:52:PM
Hey guys, check out Atletico's new ad campaign. (H) They've always had the best in La Liga!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NSO521hTA

Mauricio
02-08-2007, 02:19:AM
Man i see those pics of Henry and Dinho together and i still cant belive they are playing together, its a dream come true, any football fan should feel lucky watching this 2 guys making magic (hope they do)not to mention Messi and probabli Dos SAntos in a nera future WOW, this Barcelona looks like a FM team :)

big al
02-08-2007, 02:51:AM
Hey guys, check out Atletico's new ad campaign. (H) They've always had the best in La Liga!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5NSO521hTA

haha its pure class, how dare he hahaha

Icky Thump
02-08-2007, 03:33:PM
Bojan is the kid we should be watching. Only 16, and already an absoultely terrific player.

bybuti
02-08-2007, 09:03:PM
**** spain federation didnt left him to go in asia tour :@ they took him to play for spain u-17 :@

Mauricio
03-08-2007, 02:41:AM
well the federation has all the right to do it, and is the normal procees for young prospect players to play the youth tournaments (Messi), its not a good idea to accelerrate the procees specially if we are talking about a teenager.

zlojack
03-08-2007, 02:59:AM
well the federation has all the right to do it, and is the normal procees for young prospect players to play the youth tournaments (Messi), its not a good idea to accelerrate the procees specially if we are talking about a teenager.
Yeah...but he's already played with the U20...so if he plays for the U17, it's a step back.

bybuti
03-08-2007, 06:24:PM
well the federation has all the right to do it, and is the normal procees for young prospect players to play the youth tournaments (Messi), its not a good idea to accelerrate the procees specially if we are talking about a teenager.

yeah its really that they have all the right but its not normal to play for every team u-17, u-19,u-20, u-21

if u play for all these teams so then you have just to change jerseys coz then you cant go to train with your team coz you will have to play all the time with national team :@

if you play for u-20 for example than its not correct to play for u-17 :D


All of this is coz Barça are Catalan, this will never happen to madrid :@

Dream Team
03-08-2007, 09:12:PM
Bojan won the European U-19 last year but he didn't go to the WC U-20 this year. I think he should have played the WC U-20 and now he could make the preseason with Barça, but Barça kept him away from the WC U-20 with the excuse that he's too young and all and now there's no excuse for the U-17.

It's not a big deal. The players are complaining for the Asia Tour and we're complaining because Bojan can't go. He'll miss two la Liga games that probably he would not play anyway.

bybuti
05-08-2007, 07:26:PM
we won against Beijing Guoan 3-0

goals: Giovani, Iniesta, Ronaldinho xD

for more: http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/futbol/temporada_07-08/arxiu_partits/pretemporada/beijing_barcelona/partit.html

bybuti
06-08-2007, 10:37:AM
ok here are 2 videos from the game xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZXcTW5Fjfg&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSa9KlmoTFw&mode=related&search=

first is for first half - u can see good passes from SAMU and TITI, awesome goal from GIOVANI ang perfect game of YAYA TOURE (lol in corner you can see how long is he lol), just missing iniesta goal :s

and second video is brilliant goal from BIG RONNIE :p

SEPMRE BARÇA

skiptomylou
06-08-2007, 09:59:PM
Here's Iniesta goal. Eto'o with an awesome through pass.

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/barcelona+bejing/video/x2p12m_02-iniesta-bejing-guoan-fc-barcelon_sport

bybuti
06-08-2007, 10:29:PM
yeah :D great samu pass :P

in that game i saw so great passes from eto'o and henry :P

and when their will come ronnie and messi :D it will be EXTREME attack :p

bybuti
07-08-2007, 12:19:PM
finally in today game against Yokohama we can see Henry, Eto'o and Ronaldinho together in attack :D

hope to be nice game and we will see at the end for result :)

this is the line up:

* Valdés
* Zambrotta
* Thuram
* Oleguer
* Sylvinho
* Touré
* Xavi
* Iniesta
* Ronaldinho
* Eto'o
* Henry

bybuti
07-08-2007, 02:46:PM
again its giovani who won our game :s he scored the only goal against yokohama :D he is really talented xD

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070807/capt.xits10508071229.japan_soccer_barcelona_xits10 5.jpg?x=294&y=345&sig=YKpdV.zFGazswvVOL6WFVA--

justhammy
07-08-2007, 03:51:PM
again its giovani who won our game :s he scored the only goal against yokohama :D he is really talented xD

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070807/capt.xits10508071229.japan_soccer_barcelona_xits10 5.jpg?x=294&y=345&sig=YKpdV.zFGazswvVOL6WFVA--
I watched the game and I gotta tell ya, this guy should start! Henry struggled again!! This is an unbelieveble talent! And I say that as a Real Madrid fan. He was phenomenal again!

Vedran-10
07-08-2007, 04:33:PM
Some players are still struggling to get back into full fitness, so I wouldn't draw a lot of conclusions from these friendlies.


Our attack is too good, though.

jimorrizon
07-08-2007, 06:23:PM
highlights of match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EZISEHOV2I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Frojadirecta%2Ecom%2Fforos%2Fview topic%2Ephp%3Ft%3D22544

bybuti
07-08-2007, 07:08:PM
im intresting to know if Giovani can play in la liga coz his passport, is he a non-eu player yet :s :$

Yossarian
07-08-2007, 08:19:PM
Is this the most amount of Blacks that Barca has had in its club at any one time?


You look at those pics of the players training where Eto, Henry and Ronnie are all chumming it up and conversing about God knows what, and you wonder to yerself.....hmmm.....what common tongue does Ronnie share with the other two? FRENCH!....ahhhh. But has Ronnie kept up with his French to be able to carry a conversation?


Don't mind me, folks. I have a habit of being intensely curious about stuff that might generally be unimportant to others.

big al
08-08-2007, 06:38:AM
im intresting to know if Giovani can play in la liga coz his passport, is he a non-eu player yet :s :$

he is gonna be on the 28th of this month , its all over the mexican news, so dont worry mate, this is great news for him , and for barca too.

Dream Team
08-08-2007, 05:21:PM
Is this the most amount of Blacks that Barca has had in its club at any one time?


You look at those pics of the players training where Eto, Henry and Ronnie are all chumming it up and conversing about God knows what, and you wonder to yerself.....hmmm.....what common tongue does Ronnie share with the other two? FRENCH!....ahhhh. But has Ronnie kept up with his French to be able to carry a conversation?


Don't mind me, folks. I have a habit of being intensely curious about stuff that might generally be unimportant to others.I think overall in europe the amount of black players is increasing every year.

And yes, I guess french is the third language now. Thuram, Henry, Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Edmilson, Márquez, Yaya Toure, Abidal, all can speak french.

Yossarian
08-08-2007, 07:47:PM
^^cool........im severely jealous of your personnel, guys.....as you might've guessed from my abnormal activity in this thread of yours.

zlojack
08-08-2007, 08:08:PM
^^cool........im severely jealous of your personnel, guys.....as you might've guessed from my abnormal activity in this thread of yours.

Is any activity of yours ever normal Yoss? (H)

Vedran-10
08-08-2007, 11:23:PM
It's a better thread with Yoss' posts.

zlojack
08-08-2007, 11:27:PM
It's a better thread with Yoss' posts.

You won't get any argument from me on that one.

bybuti
09-08-2007, 11:00:PM
look in what weather conditions Barca is training in hong kong

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/thumbnails/199_150/Imatges/2007-2008/futbol/noticies/entrenaments/gira_asiatica/09-08-07_HENRY_01.jpg http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Imatges/2007-2008/futbol/noticies/entrenaments/gira_asiatica/09-08-07_RIJKAARD_01.jpg http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/Imatges/2007-2008/futbol/noticies/entrenaments/gira_asiatica/WEB_05.jpg

is this place to play football or its place where chinese are planing to make a swimming pool lol xD

bybuti
10-08-2007, 11:46:AM
yeah thanks to God the match against Mission Hills Invitation XI is suspended coz weather conditions are terrible :D I think that the tour is finished now xD

look pictures

http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_235213_CAS.jpg http://www.sport.es/info/galerias/galerias/galeria_769/foto_13577.JPG http://www.sport.es/info/galerias/galerias/galeria_769/foto_13584.JPG http://www.sport.es/info/galerias/galerias/galeria_769/foto_13576.JPG

bybuti
11-08-2007, 03:52:PM
Mission Hills 0:4 FC Barcelona

Goals:
Xavi (23')
Eto'o (28')
Henry (36')
Giovani (83')

here is the video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Mission+Hills/video/x2qh4r_mission-hills-fc-barcelona_sport

big al
11-08-2007, 08:54:PM
Mission Hills 0:4 FC Barcelona

Goals:


here is the video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Mission+Hills/video/x2qh4r_mission-hills-fc-barcelona_sport



great goals , but wtf is mission hills , it sounds something were tom cruise lives ahaha.

btw on other issues iam starting to worry we havent sell any players anymore, maxi lopez or ezquerro for example, we still have some dead weight in the squad we need to get rid off.

Vedran-10
11-08-2007, 10:50:PM
We'll be fine even with that "dead weight". They aren't the type to complain, so it won't be a problem if they stay. Of course, it's an unnecessary financial burden, but we can take it.

I hope we can sell Motta to Milan.

If Gio doesn't go on loan this season, we must find minutes for him no matter what. We have to do all we can to make sure he develops as much as he can. He'll be amazing for us in the future.

Bojan should be loaned out.

bybuti
11-08-2007, 11:44:PM
i think its better to sell some players like, motta, ezquerro, maxi, belleti ... coz if we dont need them why to keep them, but and im with tixi when he said for motta case that he is palyer of barca academy and we cant let him to go free :D

we should loan bojan too, coz we have to much stikers and i dont think that he will have to much time to play, so its better for him and for us like a club, he will improve more in other team :D i think the best place is celta to loan him, he will learn more about spanish football and other things :D

for Gio i just say that he is perfect, we should keep him and find more minutes to play :)

bybuti
13-08-2007, 09:57:PM
im sure that all the world dream to see this four stars together xD
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070813/i/r1805777750.jpg?x=380&y=300&sig=wPZch5oO9jsV1xWTrMjhkA--

jimorrizon
15-08-2007, 05:32:PM
Today:

in 30 min. Barca vs Bayern Munich. last friendly before Liga kicks off....

bybuti
15-08-2007, 08:20:PM
FC Bayern : FC Barcelona 0:1 (final whistle)

awesome goal from LEO MESSI :D

i liked ronnie game in the first half, he played more in center and had an perfect assist to Henry.

Yaya, Abidal were good too.

i like too much Deco game in second half, and of course Leo Messi is AWESOME, he is unstoppable when he get the ball.

i think Eto'o and Henry need more games together, this wasnt good :s:D

anyway, after tired asia trip this was good game :)

SEMPRE BARÇA

Paulo Da Silva
15-08-2007, 08:56:PM
do you think deco will be leaving you guys? i hope not.

bybuti
15-08-2007, 09:10:PM
i hope not with today game :D i dont imagine him leaving :P he is key player xD

Dream Team
15-08-2007, 09:12:PM
I don't think so, although this season there will be a tough competition in midfield. Last season Iniesta was our best midfielder and Xavi has been the best player of the preseason.

bybuti
15-08-2007, 10:25:PM
yeah ur right :P but deco in this match was perfect :P much active than iniesta in first half :P

ok here barça fans are 2 sig that everybody who likes can use them :D

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7804/ronniebyvg0.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1743/leomessizf4.jpg

first is Ronnie and second Messi

Enjoy if you like ;)

Arnau
15-08-2007, 10:28:PM
deco is god

Arnau
15-08-2007, 10:45:PM
like amunike

jimorrizon
15-08-2007, 11:03:PM
hope this image is repeated exactly as it is many times this year....

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1811/43274au6.jpg

big al
16-08-2007, 02:41:AM
abidal was really good today, i must say this preseason has had very good potential, and not because of the wins cause wins dont mean crap in preseason , but more that i have seen sparks of whats to come from this team, i am very happy with abidal and toure they have looked so solid and have fit this team like a glove so fast, henry tought it seems he is still struggling with some phisical problems, he has looked very sloppy and lazy sometimes , hope he gets his stuff right before the season starts.

bybuti
16-08-2007, 12:06:PM
Rijkaard: "We are continuing to improve"

so we arent still in our best, we do thinks like this know, and when we will be in our best :D i worry for the opponents

madrid (n) ****

barça :)

bybuti
16-08-2007, 03:09:PM
i was wondering if somebody can find me this pic

its one "antimadridista" boy form one other web site :P i would like to have the photo :p

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/326/d/f/Ronaldinho_and_Eto__o_by_antimadridista.jpg

Jaboldinho
16-08-2007, 04:13:PM
I don't think Deco is gonna go anywhere before January atleast. There would have been much more talk about him leaving if he was leaving. He's a great player, but I wouldn't mind that much if he left - We'd get good money for him from Chelsea and our midfield would still be covered pretty good (Yaya, Xavi and Iniesta) and we could always get some1 else with that money.

But I'm happy if he stays, great player with a lot to offer for the team.

skiptomylou
16-08-2007, 08:33:PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rlhu_franz-beckenbauer-cup-barcelone-bay_sport

Messi's goal versus Bayern. Great volley.

Dream Team
17-08-2007, 05:25:PM
Best volley of the century.


Messi will be our best player this season, forget about Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Henry.

justhammy
17-08-2007, 09:16:PM
Best volley of the century.


Messi will be our best player this season, forget about Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Henry.
Best volley of the century?! LOL you forgot about Zidane's against Leverkusen ;) Great goal though.

Vedran-10
17-08-2007, 10:26:PM
Messi will become the best player ever.

We are so damn lucky.

Capela
17-08-2007, 11:14:PM
how on earth can deco not play at barça ?
he's your best midfielder. if rijkaard doesn't put him in the starting eleven i think he must leave, a player of his quality can't be a substitute
xavi and iniesta are fantastic players but deco is better than any of them

zlojack
17-08-2007, 11:21:PM
how on earth can deco not play at barça ?
he's your best midfielder. if rijkaard doesn't put him in the starting eleven i think he must leave, a player of his quality can't be a substitute
xavi and iniesta are fantastic players but deco is better than any of them
Did you watch him last year much? Iniesta was our best midfielder last year.

Vedran-10
17-08-2007, 11:27:PM
xavi and iniesta are fantastic players but deco is better than any of them

1. Iniesta
2. Xavi
3. Deco

That's how I see it.

Capela
17-08-2007, 11:33:PM
yes, i did watch barça play and i think he was better than the others, he's absolute class
but that's just my opinion

zlojack
17-08-2007, 11:38:PM
I agree that Deco is class... no doubt. His talent is right up there and when he works hard he is great in the midfield going forward as well as coming back. I found he seemed disinterested at times last season...

bybuti
17-08-2007, 11:47:PM
yeah its true that deco its great but we cant say that xavi or iniesta arent too, we have these 3 perfect midfielder and i dont see a probelm there, one of them should rest in every third game, so play 2 game and rest one :D this is how I see this :D

btw, i saw some post about messi goal, im with all of you that think that messi goal is awesome :D, and i think so that he will be the best player of all times, he will be bigger then maradona, coz he did 2 big Diegos' things and now he just should do new things :D in his way :) he is AWESOME xD

Yossarian
18-08-2007, 12:59:AM
any of yous know what Barca might consider a fair price for Deco? It'd be a treat to see 'em partner up with either Vieira or Combover Boy, man.

zlojack
18-08-2007, 01:14:AM
I imagine it would have to be more than 20 million to start talking....

Yossarian
18-08-2007, 01:33:AM
**** ME TENDER....LY............that's expensive......for a 30yr old, that is......but we've never been a very frugal and savvy team financially speaking so why start now?




btw, I recently saw pics of Laporta when Barca was over in Asia in soccer gear and stuff, and BOY has that man aged considerably in his four years or so at the helm, eh? Probably more so than Bush has in his 8yr tenure, man.....sheesh! I'm only going by that fly-on-the-wall doc that was done on him and his crew around the time of the elections and the Ronaldinho signing so in that 4yr span, he's gone from this young and freshly faced lawyer-type, to this seriously deteriorating and devastated toad, man

big al
18-08-2007, 02:43:AM
btw, I recently saw pics of Laporta when Barca was over in Asia in soccer gear and stuff, and BOY has that man aged considerably in his four years or so at the helm, eh? Probably more so than Bush has in his 8yr tenure, man.....sheesh! I'm only going by that fly-on-the-wall doc that was done on him and his crew around the time of the elections and the Ronaldinho signing so in that 4yr span, he's gone from this young and freshly faced lawyer-type, to this seriously deteriorating and devastated toad, man


hahahaha , priceless :evil:

Dream Team
18-08-2007, 01:58:PM
http://www.sport.es/info/galerias/galerias/galeria_768/foto_13539.JPG

Yossarian
18-08-2007, 02:04:PM
^^^hurhurhurhur........there it is, there it is!!!!

ausbarca
18-08-2007, 03:32:PM
I agree that Deco is class... no doubt. His talent is right up there and when he works hard he is great in the midfield going forward as well as coming back. I found he seemed disinterested at times last season...

its not disinterest, deco is class no doubt, he only showed shades of his talent last season however as he had his head stuck too far up his own arse, deco clearly feels he has nothing to prove to nobody and it shows, he doesnt have the same intensity/passion as xavi and iniesta would

i rate iniesta incredibly high, i recon he is one of the most under-rated players in europe, he very rarely doesnt get the job done, he is a great modern day all rounder, he can create chances, get back and defend and he never stops one of my true favourites

bybuti
18-08-2007, 03:48:PM
if you remember some games than deco missed last season, u could see slower game and not too attractive like when he plays :p

i have to much respect for him :)

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/043/5/6/Barca_Heartbeat_by_Thurgood.gif

Jaboldinho
18-08-2007, 03:59:PM
Best volley of the century?! LOL you forgot about Zidane's against Leverkusen ;) Great goal though.

Didn't you actually see the humor in that or were you just kidding?? :drevil:Messi - Goal of the century, Volley of the century.:drevil:

Ring any bells?:$

big al
20-08-2007, 07:26:AM
aleluya , we finally got rid of diva lopez he is now moskow's problem hehehe.

btw its seems the deco deal is getting stronger and stronger, the price tag is what iam curious about, if barca would sell him for less than 20 million, either rijkaard is counting with motta or he is already thinking lampard is a done deal.

vitu
20-08-2007, 08:24:AM
i rate iniesta incredibly high, i recon he is one of the most under-rated players in europe, he very rarely doesnt get the job done, he is a great modern day all rounder, he can create chances, get back and defend and he never stops one of my true favourites

I totally agree with this...I admire Iniesta's skills...he's an excellent player all around.

bybuti
20-08-2007, 03:15:PM
hahahahaha HALA MADRID hahahahahahah

did you see who is the best team in the world "REAL MADRID"

5 in the middle of Madrid, that is the best :P HALA MADRID

they are so intelegent to pay 30 milion for PEPE, we took Henry for 24 hahaha

PEPE is better than henry if we look price, but not if we look presidents intelegenc

SEMPRE BARÇA

antimadridista :p

Vedran-10
20-08-2007, 10:26:PM
hahahahaha HALA MADRID hahahahahahah

did you see who is the best team in the world "REAL MADRID"

5 in the middle of Madrid, that is the best :P HALA MADRID

they are so intelegent to pay 30 milion for PEPE, we took Henry for 24 hahaha

PEPE is better than henry if we look price, but not if we look presidents intelegents

SEMPRE BARÇA

antimadridista :p


Indeed.

You should calm down a bit, though.

crswind17
20-08-2007, 10:34:PM
He's right, the wonder-defence
the 30 million-worth Pepe, and the Golden Ball winner Cannavaro made unbelievable mistakes, for example the fifth goal ...

Vedran-10
20-08-2007, 10:50:PM
http://www.sport.es/info/galerias/galerias/galeria_768/foto_13539.JPG

That's me in the future.

A big-bellied lawyer in a Barca shirt trying to play football.

bybuti
20-08-2007, 10:56:PM
lol :D yeah yeah i think so but it was in emotional way :P

do you know what Vedran, :D when i saw last night match i started to feel bad why we lost La liga, ok it was our mistake we had all in our hands, but it will be more than better if sevilla will won maybe they deserved but not madrid. Sh*t they was just in 5 last weeks in first place, we were in 80 % of liga :$ first.

anyway this is to learn for future :P

i have to say again that madrid looked last night like a team of 2nd liga of Bangladesh :D lol xD it was so funny to watch :P them :P


SEMPRE BARÇA

Vedran-10
20-08-2007, 11:30:PM
Remember, Capello's team also sucked in the first half of last season.

I'll wait for them to make some serious errors in the league before LMAO.

Jaboldinho
21-08-2007, 06:27:PM
Yea, you can tell nothing by looking at the preseason. Everything can happen, like taking the title in the five last matches... Barca just has to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'm so excited of the new season starting, I can't wait to see if Giovani is gonna get some time on the field and if he will, will he continue his unbelievable preformances.

bybuti
21-08-2007, 08:15:PM
hmm its one bad news cos we cant count in Giovani for Santander, but lets hope that he will get spanish passport at 28th like its said :P

so for the other games he will be ready :p

Vedran-10
21-08-2007, 08:47:PM
Our most dangerous contenders are ourselves. If we can keep the team free of infighting and scandals, and if we can keep the players confident, we'll be fine. Motivation definitely won't be a problem as everyone feels the obligation to redeem themselves after what happened last season.

I'm counting on the adjustment period at Madrid. They will definitely struggle for the first few months until they find their best line-up and strategy. Even Capello's Madrid was having a lot of problems at the start so we should really capitalise on that. We need to start strong and create a gap to compensate for potential slip ups.

We just need our team to be happy and relaxed and we'll win titles.