Real Madrid Thread [2007-2008] [Archive] - Page 9

OrgulloVikingo

21-12-2007, 07:07:PM

Just the fact that Calderon predicted it would have to make it untrue (H)

Good ol' Mr. Calderon! Roma will be tough. Heck we have trouble against cellar teams in la Liga so anyone saying Roma's easy is kiddin themselves. A few good matches like Liverpool vs. Inter, Arsenal vs. Milan. Those I am curious about. On to El Clasico! Guti is a serious doubt...got hurt in training, Most likely Baptista will start again. Dinho seems to have troubles with Frank again. What's the deal there? I guess Dinho is definately out of Barca next season. I'll stick w/ my 1-3 prediction. Call me crazy but I don't see this Barca team as strong as they were a couple years ago. I think we will play fairly comfortable and not too tense given our psychological points cushion.

KingPaulV

21-12-2007, 07:13:PM

Boca floja Calderon!.....

I am ok with Roma, could have been worse; but it wont be easy. As I predicted they are a hard team to beat with a mean streak up forward with that kid Vucinic....so we better watch out.... I am glad we didnt get Liverpool or Lyon, for some reason I fear Lyon....anyway,

As far as el Classico is concerned; It worries me that a lot of our people are falling into predictionns; into the score is this or that....shut the hell up, go there and play your hearts out....Camp Nou is along with Bernabeu one of the fortresses of World Football, you dont go there and just take a 3-1 win....I believe we can win, but it will not be easy at all....the most underated part of the Barca side is their defense IMO, it is really good....

justhammy

21-12-2007, 09:25:PM

Damn, just what I was afraid off. Freakin Roma! I dont know if our defense is capable of defending a master like Totti. We have a world class defense, but that guy really is a phenomenon. Lets hope we can contain him. Also with Aquilani, De Rossi and Mancini in the team, I would be afraid. Its a tough team to play! Really tough. But if we put a good result in Rome then we are gonna eat them in the Bernabeu. Thats for sure.

About the Classico. Lets hope we can give everything. I have great expectations of this match. It will be a fantastic match im sure. 2 young teams against each other. I must say though that we must consider starting Heinze over Marcelo. I really rate Marcelo higher than Heinze, I really do, but we might need the experience of Heinze. I´m sure Baptista-Diarra combo is good enough to stop Xavi and Guddie. Robinho must fight it out with Puyol and we all know who is the favourite to win that battle lol. The man that im really afraid of is Etoo. Lets hope Pepe continues with his superb form! Ramos will have a tough time against Giovani and Abidal so I hope Sneijder helps out.

Lets hope for the best. 2 days left! HALA MADRIDD!!

OrgulloVikingo

21-12-2007, 10:13:PM

KingPaulV

21-12-2007, 10:49:PM

Relax mate. It's just a little loose prediction! Geez. Regardless what people predict it won't affect the outcome so the team will play the same regardless what millions usually predict for fun! It's like placing a bet w/o the cash. Chill out a bit!

Well I wasnt irate or anything, I was just comenting; i guess I came across angry....I didnt say it wasnt ok to predict, but as you know, the human psyche tends to work in such a way that overconfidence can negate talent specially in sports. It is better for athletes to be quiet and do their job, let their play do the speaking...Calderon is just dumb to me; no actually, he is just such a huge Real Madrid fan that he often forgets he is also the president of the club and thus its public and professional face....

So no I dont have a HUGE problem with predictions, but if you notice all the previas and articles, from the Barca camp all you hear is how hard they will play etc etc, from our camp all you hear is predictions.....Hubris (excesive Pride) according to the greeks was the greatest downfall of men, Pride is good, too much pride is an assasin.

As far as Roma...they are an enigma of sort. I will tell you that Totti is slowly declining, that means that one day he could be superb while for the next five he's average...so hopefully we catch him in a couple of those average days...all depends also on how the teams arrive to that game in February...By then the final straight of La Liga will be in sight, and so we will know how well or how poorly we both are too early to tell now

OrgulloVikingo

21-12-2007, 11:57:PM

Well I wasnt irate or anything, I was just comenting; i guess I came across angry....I didnt say it wasnt ok to predict, but as you know, the human psyche tends to work in such a way that overconfidence can negate talent specially in sports. It is better for athletes to be quiet and do their job, let their play do the speaking...Calderon is just dumb to me; no actually, he is just such a huge Real Madrid fan that he often forgets he is also the president of the club and thus its public and professional face....

So no I dont have a HUGE problem with predictions, but if you notice all the previas and articles, from the Barca camp all you hear is how hard they will play etc etc, from our camp all you hear is predictions.....Hubris (excesive Pride) according to the greeks was the greatest downfall of men, Pride is good, too much pride is an assasin.

As far as Roma...they are an enigma of sort. I will tell you that Totti is slowly declining, that means that one day he could be superb while for the next five he's average...so hopefully we catch him in a couple of those average days...all depends also on how the teams arrive to that game in February...By then the final straight of La Liga will be in sight, and so we will know how well or how poorly we both are too early to tell now

Barca fans are predicting as well. Everyone does it for fun. As long as the players themselves don't predict, I don't have a problem. I predicted 1-3 but of course, it may very well end up totally different and I am well aware of that. I'm just guessing for the fun of it. I think our players will perform fine. Anything less than a draw is unacceptable.

Socrates

22-12-2007, 12:02:AM

My feeling for getting Roma was correct than, well not the worst of draws for us.

Going to be a huge game, I would be happy with a draw TBH but either way should be a good game. See everyone than.

AdyKew

22-12-2007, 12:19:AM

predictions mean nothing. just opinions is all. i think roma are hot and cold, some weeks they are good. some they are terrible(7-1) but when they are good they are not winning by big margins thats for sure. seen a couple of matches this season and i am optimistic, anyways if we want to win this competition then we have to beat the best but i'm glad inter and liverpool and arsenal and milan have been drawn together haha.

now barca,
this season they have been saved my messi so many times. now he is not there i think they are there for the taking(throughout the season not just on sunday). eto'o played well last weekend that doesnt mean he is back to his best. he tore apart a very poor valencia side that we beat 5-1.
i dont think it will be 3-1 but we may come away with a 2-1 win or 2-2 draw. ramos and heinze(if called up) need to keep their cool and not get red carded against nippy wingers. pepe man mark eto'o and cannavaro mop up the rest. diarra shut down xavi and iniesta when they come forward then attack attack attack.
raul always plays well against barcelona i think robinho and raul will score maybe a ramos header from a sneijder set piece instead of a robinho goal.
thats my two cents
roll on sunday

KingPaulV

22-12-2007, 01:25:AM

Barca fans are predicting as well. Everyone does it for fun. As long as the players themselves don't predict, I don't have a problem. I predicted 1-3 but of course, it may very well end up totally different and I am well aware of that. I'm just guessing for the fun of it. I think our players will perform fine. Anything less than a draw is unacceptable.

Yeah that's why I started having a problem becaue I see a headline and following interview with Baptista saying we will win 2-0...that's just dumb, muy bocazas de el....fans; is ok that they predict, hell I predicted...btw, I am predicting a 2-2 draw, Raul scores one, I say....

Jaouadinho

22-12-2007, 04:44:PM

cant wait for the game on sunday.

i predict 5-2 to us lol.

anyway, we have a full squad guti in included so is robben. but i still think we should start with baptista and diarra in the middle, they will break evrything up and baptista has the quality to go forward. iam really looking forward to the battle between pepe and etoo should be fasinating. also baptista and diarra vs xavi and deco/guddi/eniesta who ever plays.

Hala Madrid!!

OrgulloVikingo

22-12-2007, 07:16:PM

Yeah that's why I started having a problem becaue I see a headline and following interview with Baptista saying we will win 2-0...that's just dumb, muy bocazas de el....fans; is ok that they predict, hell I predicted...btw, I am predicting a 2-2 draw, Raul scores one, I say....

It'd be funny if we did win 0-2! 2-2 sounds very fair. Lately these clasicos are pretty high scoring and I think we'll see a few goals tomorrow. I'll stick to my 1-3 prediction.

pullstones_jr

22-12-2007, 10:33:PM

Can someone tell me the time of the game tomorrow? realmadrid.com says 21.00 hrs and barcelona's website says 19.00 hrs....and Madrid and Spain are in the same time zone! ( i think) WTF?

R.9

22-12-2007, 10:39:PM

Can someone tell me the time of the game tomorrow? realmadrid.com says 21.00 hrs and barcelona's website says 19.00 hrs....and Madrid and Spain are in the same time zone! ( i think) WTF?

The game is at 1h pm ET.That mean 19.00 Madrid time.

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 04:08:PM

game in two hours....OH GOODNESS!!!! Man, I cant wait, if you cant watch the match and would like to watch it later dont come here cause I will be posting thru the match!!!

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 05:43:PM

Que momento, se viene el clasico!...in little less than 20 mns the sparks will fly...stya tuned Madridistas, the wait is almost over....

confirmed lineups...

Barca
-------VICTOR VALDES-----------
PUYOL---MARQUEZ---MILITO---ABIDAL
-------------T. YAYA-------------
--XAVI-------------------DECO----
--INIESTA---ETOO-----RONALDIHNO

Real Madrid

------------CASILLAS------------
RAMOS----CANNAVARO---PEPE---HEINZE
-------------DIARRAH-------------
--BAPTISTA--------------SNEJDER-----
-ROBIHNO-----RVN----------RAUL

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 06:02:PM

Here we go! I will see ya fellas at halftime....

HALA MADRID!!

AdyKew

23-12-2007, 06:42:PM

Goal ******* Yes, What A ******* Goal Baptista With An Incredible Finish!!!!!!!!
1-0 Madrid

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 06:44:PM

Gooooooooooooolazooooooooooo La Bestia~!!!!!!!!!

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 06:55:PM

Magesteral game by us so far, showing why we are the best attack in europe...1-0 and looking good; Ronnie is taking a lot of dives for some reason, but other than that is a tense game and I could see us planting a 0-2 Imagine that, Baptista could be right....what a goal btw

AdyKew

23-12-2007, 07:02:PM

Incredible goal KPV, we are defending like champions pepe and canna have been solid. best this season. i think if barca are scoring then its goin to be in the first 15 mins of the second half.

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 07:59:PM

WE WON WE WON!!! HAHA great scrappy match by us PEPE WAS AMAZING! And who is complaining about the 30 millions now!!!

on the down side looks like Ramos picked up and injury....

in all honesty it should have been 0-3 but good win I am happy extremely happy!!!

AdyKew

23-12-2007, 07:59:PM

FT 1-0 great goal great performance. pepe was immense. incredible. the league is ours to lose. i am dumbstruck. i don't no what to say.
i can laugh tho hahahahahahahaha YES!!!!!!!!

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 08:03:PM

So I would like to dedicate this great victory to Arnau, Bybuti and Mr Crosas and any other annoying Barca fans outhere who swore they would put 3 in our net....to great Barca fans like Big Al and Zlojack there is always next time fellas, we will see you in May!!!

Socrates

23-12-2007, 08:05:PM

Oh man, what a game! Baptista will a ******* fantastic finish and we get the win. +7 now:D Dinho was ****, apart from diving and whining he did nothing ( what's new eh? haha ). Pepe is a ******* legend already, man I love the guy. He owned anyone that came his way.

I will post more later, now time for me to whoop some ass on the field.

Tosiek

23-12-2007, 08:06:PM

What a performance by Real! It was the first time in my life I was on Madrid side.(H)

big al

23-12-2007, 08:09:PM

congrats to madrid.... theirs is no doubt you were the better team today... like always we have the possesion but we do nothing with the ball and madrid had the better chances..... i was looking this was the second win for madrid in camp nou in 25 years; i mean wow thats just destiny... madrid have this mistic that in important games makes them almost unbeatable... and thats what counts.

and kingpaul... you my friend are class, thanks mate..... this why i never talk crap before a game because i do wanna show my face around here again haha.... lets see how long my fellow mates arnau etc... take to come out.

Jaouadinho

23-12-2007, 08:09:PM

******* missed the first half.

but i saw the second half and we [played like soldiers everyone played theire heart out there.

Pepe cant believe how cheap he was 30mill thats a bargain.

the beast just keeps getting better and better ******* amazing goal.

OrgulloVikingo

23-12-2007, 08:12:PM

Pepe is shaping up to warrant the 30 mil. The guy is top top quality. What a game by us. Everyone played well, special mention to Casillas and Bestia though. I had a great feeling about this game. It just confirms what I've been saying all along that we have a superior team to Barca. It's the reason why we won the league last season, why we drew them away last year, won at home and won away this year. If all of this doesn't convince people then they are in denial. What we are seeing now is a Barca team that is still living in 2004. Ronaldinho is a shell of what he was. Although it is way to early to tell, as it stands now, we are king of the heap in Spain and Barca are back to the usual...being second best! Nothing better than to go to the Nou Camp and silence what? 80,000, 90,000... Signing out..

P.S- Al,classy statement there mate. My assesment of Barca is in no way an insult to you by the way, I am just giving the facts.

Jaouadinho

23-12-2007, 08:19:PM

we havent been beaten at the camp nou in 3 seasons now!!

OrgulloVikingo

23-12-2007, 08:32:PM

we havent been beaten at the camp nou in 3 seasons now!!

Indeed. I've been arguing with the nonbelievers that tell me Barca are better than we are all last year and this year. They wouldn't believe me, maybe because they are bandwagoneers who don't really know football and are still living in 2004, are just plain biased, who knows. I think there is little to no doubt now even in the eyes of the infidels. By the way, anyone who doesn't think Casillas is the best goalie in the world need to get in line for a nice wake up slap.

Deisler

23-12-2007, 08:42:PM

KingPaulV

23-12-2007, 08:53:PM

justhammy

23-12-2007, 09:10:PM

What Can I say?! I waited too long to post. I am soo freakin happy! FANTASTIC! I LOVE BAPTISTA!! And damn, 30 mil?! The deal of the century! Legendary performance by Pepe. Where was Eto'o and actually the whole Barca team against this guy?! Iniesta was class though, I have to admit. Only good player. For the rest, Barca was outsmarted. The defense looked like a rock! I must say it again, Pepe is a LEGEND! Cannavaro was again superb! Heinze was defensively fantastic. Ramos put Ronaldinho in deeper crisis. Outstanding performance from Sergio again. Midfield won it for us. Diarra-Baptista is a joy to watch. They work very hard! The one is 100% perfect off the ball and the other comes close to perfection when he touches the ball. Sneijder was good today, nothing wrong with his performance again, worked hard and had some great passes! Our new Beckham ;) Robinho was a bit quiet because he didnt get the ball much (I think Marcelo suits him better than Heinze) but when he did get the ball he was a devil for the Barca defense! Raul-Ruud worked their asses off again! Raul even showed glimpses of Robinho style play ;) Great backheels!!

In short, DON SCHUSTER has done it. Great birthday present for the guy!
Ow, and MoM ---> REAL MADRID! (Although Pepe stood out a bit ;))

HALA MADRID!!

Socrates

23-12-2007, 09:10:PM

http://estaticos01.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/imagenes/2007/08/30/1188473293_0.jpg

:Bow:ALL HAIL KING PEPE!:Bow:

Another great part of the game was Cannavaro tearing Dinho a new one after a blatant dive from him in the box, that was great to see.

OrgulloVikingo

23-12-2007, 10:15:PM

Talent wise Barca is better, especially upfront. As a team though Madrid is much much more compact and hungry. They play with a joy unparalleled to any team i've seen so far in any league this season. Last season you could sense the same spirit @ Getafe. I think Shuster is a great motivator. Right man for the right job at the right time.

I do excpect Barca to get hot though, and Real might go into a slump. The season is much longer that this.

I'm not too sure about that statement. Upfront we have Ruud, Raul (2 of the top leaders in goals in the CL, compare their resumes to Etoos, Messis, etc! Then there's Robinho who is just getting started, etc. I beg to differ. I'm not saying we are much better or even better than Barca but definately not behind. Better players make better teams. at the moment we have the best goalie, best RB in Ramos (imo) in the world, Cannavaro, Raul the legend, Ruud and all the solid players like Baptista, Sneijder, Robben...

OrgulloVikingo

23-12-2007, 10:18:PM

Absolutely right Deisler, you are right but that is the historical truth of Barca and Madrid. They are the better players man for man, we are always the better team, and teams win championships....in 04 Barca was a team, now they are a bunch of individuals, and it shows, Messi wasnt there and it hurt them...I dont think it really matters who plays for us, when we go out and play like we did today or how we played in San Mames a couple weeks back you have to sit back and say wow....now that;s a team. That is what Made La quinta del Buitre amazing, that is what won us the last two CL's .....TEAMWORK!, and we got it again this year....Capello brought it back Schuster has cultivated it...we are a football family and I love it...Thought we might not be favorites to win the CL this year I wouldnt bet against us!

HALA MADRID!!

Paul, lets not be so modest. We've always had great great players....Zidane, Raul, Ronaldo, Figo, Redondo, Hierro, the list goes on.....now we have great players who play well together. Don't give me that that Barca always have better individual players! I can take us all back to Juanito, Amancio, DiStefano, Hugo Sanchez, Sanchis, Pirri and on and on....

Drvar

23-12-2007, 10:42:PM

Ahh, what a great night. I watched the game in a bar with 10 friends, 8 for Barca, me and a friend for Real. Me and my buddy didn't talk back much before the game, or even during it, but the other guys were constantly making fun of Real etc. The look on their faces when we hit home for 0-1, and the silence from their side after that, that made it all so ******* worth it, god damn it felt great :D.

KingPaulV

24-12-2007, 02:47:AM

Jaboldinho

24-12-2007, 09:35:AM

bybuti

24-12-2007, 12:46:PM

maybe you can use this somedays, its a present from me ;)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8971/26760433rs4.jpg

GOODBYE MADRID!

KingPaulV

24-12-2007, 03:33:PM

maybe you can use this somedays, its a present from me ;)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8971/26760433rs4.jpg

GOODBYE MADRID!

Waaaah Waaaaah waaaaaah....you done crying yet? its ok. :clapwap:

Actually Jaboldihno two clear chances. One, where RVN sent the ball wide of the post, he had Raul wide open in the far post too but he took the shot and it trickled out, normally rudd burries those....Secondly, the chance where Robihno slipped thru both your defense and keeper and ran out of angle, he was fouled but Mejuto didnt call the penalty and I understand why, so its ok, but he also could have played the ball in as he normally does and Baptista was coming in by himself on the back post....so yes, 0-3 should have been somewhat more representative of the tactical domination we enjoyed, we missed chances which as proven by our recent effectiveness we usually burry....that's what I meant about the score....but yes, we will see you in the Bernabeu!

Vedran-10

24-12-2007, 04:50:PM

Congratulations.

You're clearly the better team now. Completely deserved win. You don't have a stellar squad like you used to, but you have everything else.

La Liga is 90% yours.

OrgulloVikingo

24-12-2007, 04:54:PM

Orgullo I am not saying that we dont have or have had great players you know, but the fact of the matter is that Barca have had great stars almost constantly in their rosters while there have been times (as in the the present) we were have pursued excellence over a name. Barca went after names this offseason, while we pursued excellence, effectiveness, coachability....and look at the results, we really really owned them outhere, I was almost shocked, cause the resul COULD have been a scandalous 3-0 we didnt score more cause we didnt need to/want to....

En fin, I am excited for our team, but as we say in Spanish todavia queda mucha tela por cortar, so let's reign in our excitement celebrate for the next few days and get back to work as we have done all season, I love this TEAM we got, a true TEAM!, I loved how thru the whole game Guti even thought he didnt play was cheering the team on and getting behind the boys, outstanding!....

You are right Paul, the more I see us play the more I love the signings. We had a clear cut plan and got players who are not only great individually but who can fit together like a puzzle. I don't see any premadonnas on our side. I had a good feeling about Schuster and it hasn't let me down. I think he is the perfect man for this project...he especially showed it with his handling of Robinho's "scandal". On the same note, Baptista is super class. Not only his play but his attitude. He decided to stick around with us and he sat for a while, never complaining or stirring up the locker room. The most he said was that he may leave in order to play, etc. which is normal. And now he's been given the opportunity and has run away with it. I hope he remains with us. He represents the shirt extremely well and is a player to look up to. Hala!

OrgulloVikingo

24-12-2007, 05:00:PM

Congratulations on the win, you played better and deserved it. We just couldn't make chances and when we did get past Pepe there he was, Iker... He saved your asses a couple of times, arguably the world's greatest right now.

I'm still not agreeing on everything with you, first of all, I don't know how it should've been 0-3, I don't think you had 3 shots on goal, and yea Ronnie did dive, but not in every situation, so did Robinho in the box.

There were some situations when the whole crowd was shouting at Gonzalez, but I can't say much about those situations as I didn't see the slowmotions, so it's hard to tell if there was a foul or not. One I did see was the corner, which was a clear hand ball by Ramos (I think), but not easy for the ref to see it, so what can you do.

All and all, I'm dissapointed from our lad's performance, we really needed Messi there, Ronnie had a lot of situations where he would've made a goalscoring opportunity a couple of years ago, but he's not the player he used to be, he just couldn't get past anyone, just a couple of times. I'm not saying we would've won, or even got a point if we had Messi, just that we needed him, but it's not your fault he's injured.

As I said, congratulations, good match. We'll see in Bernabeu, hopefulloy we can make a difference.

:S Easy, Ruud shot in the first half went wide by inches, and the couple of breakaways in the 2nd half that Robinho held up, etc. just to mention a few. I think playing the way we did, Messi would have been suffocated just like everyone else was. Iniesta was the only decent player. He's a great player, the best alongside Messi for you guys. Also, I'd like to add that Casillas made a big difference. If he wouldn't have stopped those 2 shots back to back it might have been a different game but that's how it goes. I think he's the best goalie in the world. He keeps proving it week in week out. As for Ronaldinho, I think his days are numbered at Barca. If I were Laporta and Co. I would sell him quick before his stock goes down even further. It's clear that he's passed it now. The future for you guys is Iniesta, Messi, and the 2 kids.

OrgulloVikingo

24-12-2007, 05:04:PM

Congratulations.

You're clearly the better team now. Completely deserved win. You don't have a stellar squad like you used to, but you have everything else.

La Liga is 90% yours.

Hey mate, first, thanks for your class. Second, the league is nowhere ours yet, nowhere. If we think like that we'll lose it. Barca are still very dangerous and there's still the match at the Bernabeu so....the only thing I disagree with is that I think we do have a stellar squad, but it's still a work in progress.

Arnau

24-12-2007, 05:08:PM

maybe you can use this somedays, its a present from me ;)

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8971/26760433rs4.jpg

GOODBYE MADRID!

patetic buty patetic

Vedran-10

24-12-2007, 05:33:PM

Hey mate, first, thanks for your class. Second, the league is nowhere ours yet, nowhere. If we think like that we'll lose it. Barca are still very dangerous and there's still the match at the Bernabeu so....the only thing I disagree with is that I think we do have a stellar squad, but it's still a work in progress.

1. I don't see how you can lose the league with Sevilla being so far behind and us being so miserable. Plus, your team is very efficient and mature.

2. Your squad isn't as stellar AS IT USED TO BE. You don't have Zidanes or Ronaldos anymore, but you have a strong defense, efficient attack, good midfield, the correct attitude... the ingredients for success.

Mathematically, you're nowhere near the title. But practically speaking, not only do you have an advantage + a home clasico, you also showed that you're better than the rest, including us.
I said this last night and I stil think so - if we were 10 pts in front of Madrid, we'd still lose the league because you just can't play like this and expect something.

The only way for us to challenge is to fire Rijkaard, sell Dinho and Deco, and for the new coach to miraculously introduce a super tactic that the players will get down with no problem.

But, hope dies last.

OrgulloVikingo

24-12-2007, 07:28:PM

1. I don't see how you can lose the league with Sevilla being so far behind and us being so miserable. Plus, your team is very efficient and mature.

2. Your squad isn't as stellar AS IT USED TO BE. You don't have Zidanes or Ronaldos anymore, but you have a strong defense, efficient attack, good midfield, the correct attitude... the ingredients for success.

Mathematically, you're nowhere near the title. But practically speaking, not only do you have an advantage + a home clasico, you also showed that you're better than the rest, including us.
I said this last night and I stil think so - if we were 10 pts in front of Madrid, we'd still lose the league because you just can't play like this and expect something.

The only way for us to challenge is to fire Rijkaard, sell Dinho and Deco, and for the new coach to miraculously introduce a super tactic that the players will get down with no problem.

But, hope dies last.

I don't know...I mean, remember us last year how we caught up? As much as I talk smack about Barca and "hate" you guys, I respect you (yes it's weird). I think you are spot on about Ronnie, Rijkaard, Deco. I also think you have some nice future with Messi, Iniesta, Giovanni, Bodjan. The key ingredients are there. This game might have been the key turning point and wake up call to start thinking operation "get rid of Ronnie, Rijkaard, etc.." With all the beef with Ronnie, Rijkaard and the press feeding off this, it may very well be a lost year...it seems that way...but still 7 points is nothing at this stage and even a weak barca is a good barca so we need to stay on our toes. I think Ronnies problem is a combination of a few things. #1, His success getting to his head (seems very comfortable and too relaxed, as if he doesn't need to work anymore since he's won everything, is a big shot, etc, #2, losing a step due to his lack of hard work, age, and lack of motivation. It's a combination of these things + the fact that he's been benching and his ego is taking abig hit that makes me know that he will be gone soon. His stock has gone down tremendously. I don't see how Barca will get the money they ask but I guess a team like Chelsea may not care about this. I see him there and failing to dominate in England. a bit too late to adapt to the English style, change of culture, language, climate, etc...

Arnau

24-12-2007, 08:40:PM

stop write bibles dude

KingPaulV

24-12-2007, 09:22:PM

then dont read it Arnau....

Orgullo you are spot on brother; see the fact remains that I too would like to bash this GREAT victory in the face of Barca and its fans but the truth remains that we have won NOTHING yet. There is still so much to be decided so many games to play, plus, remember our next three la Liga games are tough....@Zaragoza; @ Atletico and Home to Villareal.....Tough cookies all of them with Zaragoza maybe being the easier one....However, over the last two away games, we have demonstrated an attitude on defense, a drive and determination and a lethal efficiency that is plain scarry. And playing in that manner you cannot bet against us; but again, there is much to be decided....

As far as Ronnie, it is a shame you know. I like the guy I do, but as you pointed out seems like fame has gone to his head. Another of the Barca fans pointed out that Rijkaard was never a good tactician and i believe it; he never was and it is showing now. Deco is just a cancer.....Barca will be fine in the future they got the foundations of a team to dominate Europe and Spain, but it is going to take a revolution there and like you said this might be a lost year already....

Let's keep doing our talking on the field, let's allow that Spirit to continue to shine forth, which is now accompained by what I believe is the best counter attacking scheme in the world at this point in time.....HALA MADRID!!

zlojack

25-12-2007, 06:01:AM

justhammy

25-12-2007, 10:42:AM

If we are to speak of missed chances to say it should have been 3-0, then maybe 3-2, because Ronnie missed one that he would have put away normally, and Barca had several chances at the end that could have gone in.

The bottom line is, it was 1-0 and deserved. My point is, you can talk all night about should have been this or that score, and there are good points on both sides, but it was 1-0 and a tighter game than perhaps it should have been. The fact that Madrid at their best could only beat us at our worst 1-0 is comforting, but it still rings hollow. Losing at home is not acceptable.

Too bad Silvio isn't offering 100 million for Ronnie anymore.

Our team needs a shakeup, a breath of fresh air. A change.I agreed with you until that point. It really doesnt have to do a single thing with us being in top form and you in very poor one. You guys were back in good form. You won against Valencia 0-3 and the game before that you guys also played superb. Remember the Barca in lightning form that drew at home against a VERY VERY POOR Real Madrid?! 1-1 (the goal of Ronaldo, remember). You see that as the same?! Its not comforting at all. It could have been alot worse and everyone knows it. But if you see that as comforting then so be it. I see it from another side. Barca didnt lose at home for ages. They even get very few goals against them at home. And they also play superbly at home. So the thing for me is, that we have won from a team that is unbeateble at home is really something to be proud of. It doesnt have anything to do with us being in topform and just win with 0-1. Thats football, we missed chances, so what. We picked the 3 points, thats what matters. And we picked them in convincing manner.

AdyKew

25-12-2007, 11:15:AM

I think Ronaldinho has peaked. he can still do a job and a very good one at that. maybe ac milan still want him good replacement for seedorf. the future is bright for barcelona they have a decent youth system unlike us, Bojan, Gio and more importantly messi. the players we bring through the ranks are good but not world class which is why they move on. personally i think thierry was a bad buy he is a primadonna not to mention on the downward spiral like ronnie. he never used to play well if it was too cold over here in england.
sack rijkaard sell ronnie, and you'll be fine. also keep them youngsters hungry and happy.
Merry Christmas everyone

justhammy

25-12-2007, 08:50:PM

Actually we have brought some very talented youngsters out of the youth. But if they dont get a chance, then how will these kids ever prove what they can do?! Look at Portillo. The guy had immense potential. And when he played, he made goals and important ones. But then, Ronaldo..Owen..etc. were bought and players like Portillo had to leave. Now he plays at Osasuna. Another one, Luis Garcia. A really superb player atm! He plays at Espanyol. Really that guy is good. Jurado, one of the biggest talents was sold. Javi Garcia a great talent on the DM position was sold. De La Red...SOLD! Now we only have Granero. And if this guy gets sold then we must shut down our whole youth academy, because it wouldnt make much sense. Now ofcourse, Messi is different class. I wont start on him. But Bojan and Giovani, well...Portillo was as impressive when he came up the ranks of the youth and when he made his debut. I mean he was also superb. That doesnt mean anything. They both have immense talent, but unlike our youth they get a chance to prove it! Oh and btw, our youth is actually fantastic. Most of then win the league almost every year. So the problem lies somewhere else ;)

Arnau

25-12-2007, 09:03:PM

well, madrid kill his 10last years kids.

barça give minutes a lot of hims

OrgulloVikingo

25-12-2007, 10:57:PM

If we are to speak of missed chances to say it should have been 3-0, then maybe 3-2, because Ronnie missed one that he would have put away normally, and Barca had several chances at the end that could have gone in.

The bottom line is, it was 1-0 and deserved. My point is, you can talk all night about should have been this or that score, and there are good points on both sides, but it was 1-0 and a tighter game than perhaps it should have been. The fact that Madrid at their best could only beat us at our worst 1-0 is comforting, but it still rings hollow. Losing at home is not acceptable.

Too bad Silvio isn't offering 100 million for Ronnie anymore.

Our team needs a shakeup, a breath of fresh air. A change.

we are just putting together a new team. we have many new players, coach, system, etc. for us to dominate you at home at thisstage of our building says alot. The future looks even brighter while barca's will go through a rebuilding of their own. Don't forget we beat you and drew you at the camp last year. Throw the l eague title in the mix and things speak for themslves. As for the 1-0...that doesn't even tell the full story. We totally outplayed barca in their home, totally. We shredded and stifled everyone on your team. If I were a barca fan, I'd take no comfort at all. But now that I think about it, you shouldn't feel bad about losing at home to us. Remember we are defending champs and are better than barca at this stage. It's not your fault. Bottom line is that Barca aren;t as good as Madrid so this kind of loss shouldn't have come as a surprise to any logical barelona fan. Please don't get mad, I am not stirring up anything it's just that these are the way things are now.

P.S - you guys should try to sell ronnie soon before his price goes way down. His downfall is due to the frankenstein effect. You built a monster by turning him into a God. Of course it's gonna go to his head and affect his attitude, work ethic, etc.

OrgulloVikingo

25-12-2007, 11:02:PM

well, madrid kill his 10last years kids.

barça give minutes a lot of hims

:eek:

mnj2x

26-12-2007, 03:48:AM

what happened to solari...is he a real product?

justhammy

26-12-2007, 10:32:AM

No Solari isnt a Real product. He came from River Plate. I forget to mention someone though. Esteban Cambiasso. You could count this as a Real product. Real brought him when he was 15 and loaned him out in Argentina. Look at him now. One of the best defensive midfielders in the world. I still dont agree with the fact that they left him go so easily! Now his value is freakin high!

AdyKew

26-12-2007, 05:06:PM

sorry hammy but messi is world class. none of our youth is anywhere near this kid. raul made it because he was world class, casillas made it becuase he is world class, guti also. apart from portillo(which i agree was amazing something like 700 goals in our youth team) the players you are naming are at average la liga sides. they are not setting the world alight like messi. or like raul did. look at man utd, there golden generation beckham, butt, scholes, giggs all came up through the ranks now look at their homegrown talent, very little. not every player we bring up is world class hence the reason why we bring in world class players to feature in our first team squad. ronaldo? was the best plaer in the world, now a club of our stature has to have the best team in the world. that is what we stand for. we would not be the best team in the world with portillo and soldado up front, we would not be the best team in the world with pavon and ruben in defense.
sorry but its the way i feel

justhammy

26-12-2007, 08:13:PM

Well, I have all the respect for your opinion, but did you read my post?! ;) I said and I'm quoting:

'Now we only have Granero. And if this guy gets sold then we must shut down our whole youth academy, because it wouldnt make much sense. Now ofcourse, Messi is different class. I wont start on him. But Bojan and Giovani, well...Portillo was as impressive when he came up the ranks of the youth and when he made his debut. I mean he was also superb.'

So I did say that Messi is different class ;) I dont believe a player will come close to him in the near future. Read well next time mate ;) But Bojan and Giovani arent as impressive as Messi was. Not even near him! And srry mate, but I really believe that Jurado and Javi Garcia could have been something special! I really believe that! Now I'm afraid that they wont become the players they would have become if Real kept them and gave them a chance. Especially Jurado!

Arnau

26-12-2007, 09:57:PM

what happened to solari...is he a real product?

solari play in atleti before sign for madrid xD
http://xs322.xs.to/xs322/07523/solarisaasfasg.JPG (http://xs.to)

AdyKew

26-12-2007, 11:06:PM

ok mate and i respect yours. i wasnt tryin to say u didnt think messi was world class i was highlighting my comparison to him and anything we have produced. the annoying thing for me is our scouts, we get told we had a chance to sign messi and ronaldo before lisbon and barca. tut tut costly mistake

Socrates

27-12-2007, 01:52:PM

KingPaulV

27-12-2007, 05:02:PM

yup pretty much a set squad I dont even think Sodado will be leaving, thought I think he should for the good of his career. He is rotting in the bench...So no Real Madrid for a couple weeks man, that just stinks makes life a lot less interesting hehe....

justhammy

27-12-2007, 05:23:PM

Winter transfer season is about to open up, you guys know what that means. I really don't think we will get anyone in Jan except for maybe a DM but hopefully not a permanent move. Diarra will be away at the ACN and thus the club might want a DM to help cover for Gago incase of an injury or suspension otherwise the team looks pretty good.
Yeah even Calderon said we wont buy anyone so, if he said that about TRANSFERS then we should believe it. Although I cant imagine us for 1/1.5 months with just one DM. So I guess you're right. We will go after a DM. And I think it will be someone from Portugal (;))

Socrates

27-12-2007, 06:33:PM

Yeah even Calderon said we wont buy anyone so, if he said that about TRANSFERS then we should believe it. Although I cant imagine us for 1/1.5 months with just one DM. So I guess you're right. We will go after a DM. And I think it will be someone from Portugal (;))

You talking about that Veloso kid? Last I heard he would cost something like 20 million euros...no thanks. I really can't think of anyone that we can just loan in for 6 months, well it's most likely going to be someone from outside la liga per the whole 5 games rule ( if any la liga player has 5 or more liga games under his belt than another la liga team can't sign him in the winter ).

On Soldado, last I heard he was leaving in the winter team and maybe to another la liga team as he has not played in 5 liga matches for us. Sucks that we did not just let him go to Benfica when he had the chance.

KingPaulV

27-12-2007, 07:55:PM

justhammy

27-12-2007, 08:15:PM

Guys, I just used like 2 hrs of my time searching the internet for some news on our players that got loaned. Srry Im being a bit off topic atm, but who cares ;).

Damn, Granero! I mean, I saw alot of posts of people that watch him every game and well, he really really looks something special! I personally watched 2 La Liga games and 1 Uefa game of Getafe and he impressed me, but these guys watched every game and they are talking very very good of him. I guess this kid can become our 'Cesc'. He never loses possesion and can make very smart passes in an instant. Very strong player! Lets hope next year will be his year, in the White shirt of RM!!
The next one, Negredo. ---> 6 goals already for Almeria! Javi Garcia also performs superbly for Osasuna. Like De La Red does for Getafe (but I dont think he can become something for us)

Also another kid, this time from our Castilla squad. Dani Parejo looks very very promosing. Also a CM/CAM.

So all in all, Granero is the man for next season...mark my words! He is speciaL!! (and that goal in the Uefa Cup showed it ;))

@ Socrates...yeah I was pointing at Veloso. But it was more like, knowing Calderon, knowing Real Madrid, they will buy someone (even if they tell us they wont). And then it could be Veloso. But I rate Gago much higher ;). If we would want to get a DM then I personally would go for Banega. (We got first option on him and Cahais, from the Gago deal ;))

Well, now im gonna take a rest. I have enough Real Madrid in my head now lol ;)

EDIT: lol talking about Soldado. Here is something interesting on him. He wants to prove himself! But if the right offer comes, then he could leave.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=527932

Socrates

27-12-2007, 10:09:PM

he could still go to benfica so I heard, Camacho is the coach and he will welcome him. I want Soldado to succeed. Looks like a good kid....anyway; we could probably get Garay for cheap racing play him as a CB but he is just as well playing DM. Young Talent in keeping with our line of your talented players....if we wanted to go the other route, and get an experienced guy then I would guess the choices are a little more limited. I am guessing someone in Italy or England that gets little playing time but is still fairly good would be the one...I just dont know who....

I would LOVE for us to get Garay but we can't as he already played 5 la liga games for Racing so we would have to wait for the summer time to get him. Also if we did than for sure he would be a starting CB next to Pepe for us, IMO Garay is very much like Ramos in that he is one of the top young defenders out there and very dangerous at set pieces both at heading and shooting.

hammy - I have also herad very good things about this Dani Parejo kid and Genero is a fantastic player but the others I don't think have a future for RM. I really don't think we need a 3rd DM, just loan someone in for the rest of the season to help out since Diarra will be leaving for the ACN. Otherwise Diarra and Gago for fine.

KingPaulV

28-12-2007, 12:17:AM

the question is who? who is outhere that is able to come in on loan and help out....and yes Socrates I agree Garay is top notch, we could get him cheap in the summer market and let him become our next Sergio Ramos, we could end up with one of the youngest and best defenses in Europe!, that would be awesome

justhammy

28-12-2007, 08:16:AM

Yup Garay is really superb! He is so freakin superb! If we get him in the summer then we are done for the next 5 years lol! ;) But there is also another prodigy on the CB spot. In case we dont get Garay. That Caceres kid! Still just 19 years old !I think he plays for Recreativo atm. They just bought him. An Uruguan kid! I think you guys know him. What a player! Reminds me alot of Sergio Ramos! But no one will be like Sergio though! They will all become world class players, but Ramos is special ;)

And btw, about that Dani Parejo kid from our Castilla squad. Arsene freakin Wenger had far going interest for him. So that means that he MUST be something really really special! Arsene almost never gets it wrong. I can recollect only alliadiere. But for the rest almost all of them made it big time! So that promises alot for Dani and for us! :D

datboy

28-12-2007, 03:16:PM

justhammy

28-12-2007, 05:02:PM

im pretty sure that we sold Granero, Negredo, Javi Garcia and De La Red.
altho, i think that they all have clausuls in there contracts which gives us the option of buying them back after 2 years for a small amount. :)
Yeah we have sold 3 of those 4. Javi Garcia, De la Red and Negredo. But Granero (the biggest talent of all) is just loaned out for one season and will return the next ;) Thats really great, because it shows that we have faith in him. He is definately looking Real Madrid class atm.

justhammy

31-12-2007, 06:12:PM

Guys, before I go wild this night ;) I gotta tell you some great news. Like iv said before, we have first option on freakin Ever Banega! So Veloso can go f*ck himself. If we gonna get a young DM, then Banega is the kid to go for and we have first option so why not! We would regret if we dont get him! See it for yourself, Gago-Banega midfield! DAMN! :D

(But if im really honest, we dont need the kid lol)

KingPaulV

31-12-2007, 08:05:PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR Madridistas! I hope this year of 2008 can bring us a double! but at the very least La Decima!!!

Axolote

01-01-2008, 08:10:AM

Banega is a good DM...

You have Diarra and Gago...

IMO he is a waste of money...

The best DM from argentina are Mascherano and Cambiasso...

PS: Give Saviola a chance...

justhammy

01-01-2008, 03:20:PM

Banega is a good DM...

You have Diarra and Gago...

IMO he is a waste of money...

The best DM from argentina are Mascherano and Cambiasso...

PS: Give Saviola a chance...
You know better then all of us if he is good enough. If you say he is a good DM then I guess thats the case. I watched Banega play a few times and he impressed, BUT he wasnt as impressive as Gago at Boca. (not by a long shot actually). If we are going to make a big mistake by selling Diarra (lets hope that wont happen) then I guess we already considered Banega. So lets wait. I think he will go to Valencia. Good for him.

Saviola is such a wasted talent atm. I really like the kid. But it is so freakin hard to play him now because Ruud and Raul are doing superb! He is 3rd choice. Thats not bad, but the first 2 choices never get injured so he is really really unlucky atm! He started out impressive, but his last match against Alicante was way below par. (and you cannot blame him for that) Lets hope he can find his form back again! Because he is a great player to have.

Schuster apairently has to choose between him and Soldado. I guess he will go for Conejo. Soldado (who got cheated even harder by Real) will leave in the summer for sure, if not earlier.

PS, you guys had a kid we were interested in, a winger I think. How is he doing?! (wasnt his name Augusto Fernandez?)

BTW, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL MADRIDISTA'S! Lets hope 2008 brings us the same and maybe even more than 2007!

el_marto

01-01-2008, 03:36:PM

according to the marca newspaper, real madrid signed the 21 year old chilean striker sebastian pinto from universidad de chile.

at first instance, he is supposed to be at real madrid castilla, but if soldado sings for benfica, he would be joining the first team squad.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9801/pintoog7.png

justhammy

01-01-2008, 03:57:PM

I also read that. But I have to admit that I never seen him play. So I dont know if he is good enough or not. Can you give some info?!

el_marto

01-01-2008, 11:26:PM

I also read that. But I have to admit that I never seen him play. So I dont know if he is good enough or not. Can you give some info?!

Pinto is a very strong striker (188m, 90 kg) , good heading, holds the ball well and a good ball control, sort of a mini-ibrahimovic :drevil: (obviously not THAT alike).
scored 11 goals in his first year as a professional, but he wasnt always a regular starting squad player at universidad de chile.

I think it would be best that he stays in castilla to gain more experience or maybe loaning him to another team. If things go well, who knows, maybe he could be another zamorano.
Anyway, real madrid has nothing to lose beacuse they signed him for free, so if he plays well, it would be the transfer of the year.

Jaouadinho

02-01-2008, 07:35:PM

any one know anything about the alicante match, i cant seem to find anything.

if any one is watching it, care to post about the match thanks.

R.9

02-01-2008, 08:40:PM

The match is 1-1 in the 2nd half and if they stay like that they will have to go to extre-time.

R.9

02-01-2008, 08:54:PM

Guti score 20 sec before the end of the game and Real Madrid win 2-1 and pass to the next round.

Javyol

03-01-2008, 10:27:AM

any one know anything about the alicante match, i cant seem to find anything.

if any one is watching it, care to post about the match thanks.

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/kind=16/newsid=642802.html

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jJwOc-9wln0

AdyKew

04-01-2008, 03:35:PM

we have drawn mallorca in the cup then probably getafe as we meet the winner of getafe vs levante
that is providing we get through of course

banok

06-01-2008, 08:58:PM

Real Madrid-Zaragoza highlights (http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/121555)

KingPaulV

07-01-2008, 03:18:AM

So we beat Zaragoza, and if you guys didnt watch then you missed THE BEST goalkeeper in the world go to work. Simply the best. I mean if somebody wants to sit there and say Cech or Buffon are better then they are living in the past. The fact is that Iker alone has kept and won more games for madrid this year and many years before than any other player.....We player a poor game until the first goal came, after that we sort of woke up and put another one for insurance....deadly, and effective that's our attack and that is how we live....but what a poor match, so we must improve if we want to collect points in the CdR match

GREAT IKER!
Hala Madrid!

MaestroZidane

07-01-2008, 05:22:AM

He will be with our Madrid for a while KingPaulV... So if anybody missed him in action today, they can watch him play every weekend during La Liga season. Because he belongs to us today and till he retires :clapwap:..

Hala Madrid.... And a :bow: to Super casillas..

Arnau

07-01-2008, 12:39:PM

iker is touching by god or wath, my lord ! ! ! the best goalkeeper i've see !!

justhammy

07-01-2008, 01:37:PM

Yesterday was a poor match by us. Till the 60th minute we were just poor! Man of the Match---> San Iker! And yesterday was also proof that we are going to miss Diarra VERY VERY much! He was a beast. Robinho is in top form. Atm, along with C.Ronaldo the best player in the world. He definatly is the best player in Spain. The first goal showed that he has changed, normally he would have done a few stepovers, then take on his man and if he gets past him he would have shot himself. Not this Robinho though! This kid really showed that he changed! His goal was really great. He showed blistering pace and a superb finish! And again, I have to give credit to Marcelo, because for a 19 year old kid, he is doing FANTASTIC. He is our prodigy! He is becoming even more impressive in defense than in attack. That promises alot!!

So we really should improve in the Copa match! Maybe give Higuain a chance?! He is superb! And I was also suprised that Robben didnt get in! But thats how it works, we have won and Bernd is the man and he deserves it!

HALA MADRID!

Jaouadinho

08-01-2008, 02:34:PM

Pepe, cannavaro, ramos and hienze were missing from training 2day.

looks like cannavaro, ramos and pepe might recover in time for the game with mallorca, but we are having a bit of a crisis with defenders getting injured.

hienxe is out for 2 months by the way.

KingPaulV

08-01-2008, 04:38:PM

Ramos is out due to yellow cards, he is physically fine but he wont play against Mallorca, that leaves us with

Salgado,Marcelo, Torres, Pepe and Cannavaro...who might be hurt...really really worrying

AdyKew

08-01-2008, 07:10:PM

Ramos is out for the levante game not for the mallorca CdR match. so we should be able to manage.

Jaouadinho

13-01-2008, 06:59:PM

0-0 ht against levante.

very scrappy game and levante are making it very hard for us, by defending in numbers. i dont see many goals in this game, but ill b happy if we end up with a 1-0 score.

P.S Gago has been supurb maybe we wont miss diarra that much after all. cross your fingers he doesnt get booked otherwise he will miss next weeks madrid derby.

MaestroZidane

13-01-2008, 07:14:PM

We've been lucky that Levante hasn't put a few in our net. Our defence has been shaky.. Hope Real can pull it off

KingPaulV

13-01-2008, 07:30:PM

yeah, lets realize we are playing the last team in la liga and they have sucked so far....and yet we cant even make them laugh, as good as our last two games where in 07 our next three in 08 have been abysmal

KingPaulV

13-01-2008, 07:32:PM

wow we just hit the post......not our day

KingPaulV

13-01-2008, 07:37:PM

Gol Van Nistelroy....from a penalty kick, we are all kinds of lucky but hey the points add up the same

KingPaulV

13-01-2008, 07:51:PM

2-0 Van Gol Again, this guy is amazing, even thought he has been at the top for a while now he is still lethal!!

Jaouadinho

13-01-2008, 07:58:PM

sh*t game today untill guti came on in the last 30 mins, then we seemed to wake up.

remineds me a lot of real madrid of last season. van gol does the business for us again.

Gago did quite good in a though game made some great tackles, made a few bad passes aswell but so did every one else to be honest.

AdyKew

13-01-2008, 08:45:PM

yeh not the best performance but its 3 points none the less. i thought marcelo was particularly bad, but he had a good game last week(one of very few who did). and most people were bad today. hopefully the derby will wake us up out of this rut we are in. we usually perform against the bigger teams and not so against the smaller ones hence todays performance.

solaimaa

14-01-2008, 12:25:AM

i watched your game against zaragoza, and today against levante. i don't know what's worse the fact that you play like total and utter SH!T and win or the fact that it is common knowledge you will score in your last 15 minutes yet the opposition still tries to be brave and attack. you've now gotten two 2-0 victories that should both have been 0-2. that handball given today was extremely 50/50, the guy just blasted it at his arm, and could easily not have been given. how levante managed to not score even a single one of their opportunities is beyond me. more shocking is how zaragoza didn't manage to score!

marquez said it best a few days ago. you are not the best team in spain, neither were u the best team in spain last year. you are simply the luckiest team in spain, and you've been proving that over and over and over again.

hopefully mallorca knocks you out midweek and atletico put you out of your misery....:)

Socrates

14-01-2008, 04:30:AM

yt23w

14-01-2008, 07:00:AM

WoW, it seemed at times NEITHER team could buy a goal!

21st minute - hit the Defender on the line TWICE!!
53rd Minute Hit the keeper THEN off the post!!!
69 Minute - Robinho 1 on 1 with the keeper....off the post....

...but *lucky* for us we bought R V N !! (Cheers Fergie!)

Awesome! 7 points clear at the halfway mark! isnt that a record for most points at the halfway mark?

AdyKew

14-01-2008, 08:19:AM

you call him luck, i call him iker casillas. and yt23w is right neither team could score and we had many chances to score, baptista had to cleared of the line and hit the the post and robinho hit the post.
and the penalty was a penalty his arms were raised and it hit his arm. dont blame our luck or the ref blame the F.A for the rules.

solaimaa

14-01-2008, 12:03:PM

And we would still be in first place while getting out of the ever so precious Kings Cup, but hey you keep on crying now. Tell me who was better at the Camp Nou? :D

In 2005 and 2006, we were champions because we earned it, we destroyed everyone that we came across, barring of course a couple tricky matches here and there. We were playing the best football in Europe, and if you're going to deny that, then you're an idiot.

Yes, you won the title last year, but you didn't earn it, we threw it away. If you're going to deny that, you're an indiot.

At the Camp Nou two weeks ago, you were the better team and you deserved to win. If I deny that, then I will be an idiot. However, you cannot say that you haven't been massively lucky on countless occaisons over the last 12 months. I would love to see a stat that shows how many games you have scored and won games in the last 15 minutes after being second best throughout.

It's ok, your luck will run out sooner or later, and we'll be waiting when it does!

KingPaulV

14-01-2008, 06:14:PM

In 2005 and 2006, we were champions because we earned it, we destroyed everyone that we came across, barring of course a couple tricky matches here and there. We were playing the best football in Europe, and if you're going to deny that, then you're an idiot.

Yes, you won the title last year, but you didn't earn it, we threw it away. If you're going to deny that, you're an indiot.

At the Camp Nou two weeks ago, you were the better team and you deserved to win. If I deny that, then I will be an idiot. However, you cannot say that you haven't been massively lucky on countless occaisons over the last 12 months. I would love to see a stat that shows how many games you have scored and won games in the last 15 minutes after being second best throughout.

It's ok, your luck will run out sooner or later, and we'll be waiting when it does!

For you to come here and categorize somebody as an idiot for having a different opinion (and we all do you are in a Real Madrid thread remember?) that makes you an idiot. The fact of the matter is that while Barca did play the best football in Europe for those years, you no longer do. The fact is that we won La Liga last year because we wanted it more. Luck has to be sough after, luck doesnt just arrive, good teams create their own luck, resillient teams find way to win. I would dare you to go up to any of those players that played in our squad last year after the break and tell them they didnt earn their championship...they earned it alright; they did what they had to do to win, and get the results, Barca didnt, that is your fault (Barca the teams and players) not ours.

There is an old sports adage that says: "Good teams find ways to win; bad teams find ways to lose" and that cannot be more true of us. Have we been fortunate? absolutely, but have we generated our own "luck" in many occasions? we sure have; You barca types only know how to find ways to critizice us and how we play, yet you are still sitting 7 points behind for your own doing.

If we get knocked out of Copa del Rey I actually wont mind, I think its a distraction to be honest, but whatever, I would let you guys win 20 Copas over us having 10 Champions Leagues, that is the one competition that would dissapoint me to get knocked out of prior to the Semis at least.

As long as our team mentality remains the same, as long as we display the same fight; the same impetus, and desire to WIN; our "luck" will not run out, and we will be in Las Cibeles by the end of the year, Hopefully celebratin un Doblete!

big al

14-01-2008, 06:28:PM

AdyKew

14-01-2008, 08:29:PM

HALA KPV!!!!!!!

i was just typing the exact same comeback and u beat me too it haha.
those barca fans arent bitter at all are they
and whats better, while our luck continues barca will continue to look up at us as they fall further into their rut.
your 4-0 win only papers over the cracks

Arnau

14-01-2008, 08:35:PM

shut up idiots, roma will beat mandril :S:S madrid luck just work in spain for now

AdyKew

14-01-2008, 09:28:PM

ure frustrated ure not on top and blaming everything but yourselves

big al

14-01-2008, 11:43:PM

shut up idiots, roma will beat mandril :S:S madrid luck just work in spain for now

rude... but true

anyways everyone needs a little luck in their lives :D

Socrates

15-01-2008, 02:07:AM

For you to come here and categorize somebody as an idiot for having a different opinion (and we all do you are in a Real Madrid thread remember?) that makes you an idiot. The fact of the matter is that while Barca did play the best football in Europe for those years, you no longer do. The fact is that we won La Liga last year because we wanted it more. Luck has to be sough after, luck doesnt just arrive, good teams create their own luck, resillient teams find way to win. I would dare you to go up to any of those players that played in our squad last year after the break and tell them they didnt earn their championship...they earned it alright; they did what they had to do to win, and get the results, Barca didnt, that is your fault (Barca the teams and players) not ours.

There is an old sports adage that says: "Good teams find ways to win; bad teams find ways to lose" and that cannot be more true of us. Have we been fortunate? absolutely, but have we generated our own "luck" in many occasions? we sure have; You barca types only know how to find ways to critizice us and how we play, yet you are still sitting 7 points behind for your own doing.

If we get knocked out of Copa del Rey I actually wont mind, I think its a distraction to be honest, but whatever, I would let you guys win 20 Copas over us having 10 Champions Leagues, that is the one competition that would dissapoint me to get knocked out of prior to the Semis at least.

As long as our team mentality remains the same, as long as we display the same fight; the same impetus, and desire to WIN; our "luck" will not run out, and we will be in Las Cibeles by the end of the year, Hopefully celebratin un Doblete!

Thanks for that Paul, says me from writing out a long ass post like that.

On to the CDR which as you said it not really a big deal... I would not mind it if we were to go out. I just hope that no first team player gets injured, especially Gago because we don't have another DM if he gets hurt to play agianst our rival were if we do manage to get a win I think IMO that we will than have one hand on the trophy.

dave5000

15-01-2008, 02:11:AM

shut up idiots, roma will beat mandril :S:S madrid luck just work in spain for now

agree but their look will be over soon ;)

KingPaulV

15-01-2008, 02:34:AM

shut up idiots, roma will beat mandril :S:S madrid luck just work in spain for now

Arnau youre a funny kid, I liked all those post you made after we handed you guys your behinds in Camp Nou last year....nice posts! :S

But as far as our "Luck" running out outside of Spain, I digress, For reference, look at all of our Champions league matches, even the one we lost in Bremen we could have at least tied and that was after playing our poorest defensive match....we were in every game all the time....

You know if we win la Liga and Champions I am going to make a big headline in here titled simply

" SUERTE!"

I am dumbfounded that there are some of you here who really think this is alll the result of good luck and not the result of team mentality, attitude, desire, no-quit attitude....So in that same sense we can say then that Germany have been extremely "Lucky" in lifting all three of their world cups.....or better yet, lets look at our last world Champions, the Italians.....lucky right? their never say die attitude had nothing to do with it right?.......

yeah....

anyway, the only game we have truly been out of this year was against Sevilla both times we played there this year; that stadium has a very negative effect on some of our players and its contagious to the rest..even against Espanyol who clearly outplayed us we had a chance to at least tie....

OrgulloVikingo

15-01-2008, 05:10:AM

OrgulloVikingo

15-01-2008, 05:16:AM

solaimaa

15-01-2008, 06:46:AM

As long as our team mentality remains the same, as long as we display the same fight; the same impetus, and desire to WIN; our "luck" will not run out, and we will be in Las Cibeles by the end of the year, Hopefully celebratin un Doblete!

Please remind me where in the last three games you have shown the right "mentality" "fight" "impetus" and "desire to win". i have seen none of that, and if u have, damn, you must have been watching some other game.

face it, last 2 league games were won because of luck and nothing else, and there was none of the "mentality, fight, blah blah blah" against mallorca either.

if you think your team is playing well, and you guys are happy, hey who am i to complain? if this is the level that you fans like to see, then that's great, but setting our standards a little low aren't we? or have you just been success starved for so long that even a crappy lucky win aganist teh BOTTOM CLUB where goals come from a dubious penalty in the last 15 min, that even games like that, you are able to find "fight, mentality" blah blah blah. hey, if it makes you happy, it makes me happy.

like I said, keep playing like this, and sooner or later your luck will run out.

solaimaa

15-01-2008, 06:50:AM

Instead of being happy with what you have you want to make other people as miserable as you. Like they say, misery loves company.

I'm certainly not miserable. Who does everyone say is favorites to win CL? Madrid? Hmmm never heard that. Thats right, Barca are favorites. Who is playing better football? Madrid? Ohhh think not! You might be getting results right now, but at the level you're playing at, you'll start dropping points soon. And if you don't, and you win the league, good for you, I will come on here and congratulate you. But you will know deep down that even if you do, nobody NOBODY will be saying you are the best in THE WORLD, or even in europe, like our team was only 2 years ago. You came to the camp nou this year and BEAT us, we went to the bernabeu then and HUMILATED you. So yes, you people should know all about being miserable, since you've been it for so long! Enjoy your "good football" on display each week, I hope it's making you happy!

Here's a little clip you might enjoy as well:

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justhammy

15-01-2008, 07:07:AM

Guys, dont freakin talk about luck. Just dont. Luck doesnt have anything to do with it. We are unbeaten in the Bernabeu for how long?! I mean, luck can go on for some matches, but not freakin 20/30 matches. Last year, we won almost EVERY game after the first 2 games of the new year. That cant be LUCK. Oh and please, dont say you guys threw it away. You guys s*cked last year. So if I'm gonna follow your logic, then we have throw the title away in the past 3/4 years? You want to know who threw a title away?! Thats us, in (correct me if im mistaken) 2002/2003. With that Portugese guy, Quieroz. We had a 11/12 point advantage in freakin February/March and we then lost everything. Thats throwing away a title. Oh and also, returning to last year. Sevilla was also a leader. They were also number 1 for some time. They played the best football. So did they throw it away too?! You cant throw away something that you dont have! Real earned the title completely! They worked hard, played for the shirt and most importantly...they NEVER gave up!

So stop talkin about things that already happened. WE already won the league and no one can take it away from us! So when the league is won this year, then it's 'Grande Madrid' and 'Crisis in Barca'! (or vice versa, because thats how it goes in Spain)

solaimaa

15-01-2008, 07:08:AM

KingPaulV

15-01-2008, 11:51:AM

Yeah lets talk about those phamtom penalties....(Barca against Athletic, Lyon, Racing anybody?) Or Phamtom goals (that Yaya ball that hit the crossbar and bounced outside the line eaerlier in the year?) yeah, but whatever as they say in Spain anytime the ref helps Barca its ok, nobody talks about it, but when the ref "SEEMS" to help us then its a national outcry; you guys (Not all Barca fans, as I've said before there are some noted class acts) are sore loosers, face it, you guys dont like to be #2 and that is all you are....dont claim to be what you are not, you are not Madrid, you will never be Madrid, our history our shirt and the fact that we are still bagging them in precedes us....

Would I like to play better football? absolutely, but am I going to complain about getting points and being ahead in la liga? HELL NO! that is why we play the game! we play to win, and we are winning, I might not like the way we win all the time but we are winning; If you really want to sit there and wait for our "luck" to run out, then keep on waiting buddy, cause what you still fail to understand is that " GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN" we have been finding ways to win; wheter it is attacking Zaragoza and Levanted in the last 15 minutes, or whether making sure we are putting them in the net when we get a chance to do it; whatever, the case might be....You dont understand that concept obviously......

I am done talking to you, cause like i have said before; some of you Barca fans should just go and call yourselves FARSA fans, that's all you are, all you'll ever be second best always, always with that stupid inferiority complex, always going back to the freaking political crap, always talking about what could have been but wasnt....

Jaouadinho

15-01-2008, 12:18:PM

agree but their look will be over soon ;)
ih i guess u guys are only looking at the start of 2008 and not the starts of the season.

if we are only talking about 2008 then yeh we have been lucky and yes u have played better football, but i guess u r so short sited and stupid u forget when we beat u 1-0 at the camp nou with a fabolous goal, but then ull just say it was because messi wasnt playing (even though most barca fans said we dont need him well beat without him). 5-1 away at valencia that was "luck". 5-0 against villaral that was luck eh. yeh theire have been games since the BEGENING of the season when havnt played that well and still won but thats what big teams do, they get results. we know we arnt goign to play the best football every game, and seeing how new and young the actuall squad is iam quite happy with were we are now we are a team still adapting and yet, we are still 7 points clear of you, even though u have players like deco, puyol, marquez, etc etc who have been together for the last 4 to 5 years.

oh and i think if we lose van nistelrooy, raul and robinho well still win because we have a squad of 25 and not just 12 13,they are great players and any team would miss them if they lose them but we still have the strenght and depth to win games without them. we have robben, higuain saviola baptista etc etc.

but like some people have already sed u r plain and simple just sore losers.

justhammy

15-01-2008, 12:29:PM

Finally, one last thing.

In the past three years, whenever Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi have started together, whe have won 87% of our matches. That's a pretty big percentage. This year, REM have only played 1 measly game together because of your injuries. Imagine if Ruud Raul and Robinho had only started 1 game together all year. I'm pretty sure you guys would be more than just 7pts behind at the halfway stage, so all things considered, we're doing well. Now if we could just keep our players fit, we could start mounting a title challenge. It's not all over, but if we win all of our remaining matches and only draw maximum 2 of them, I'm confident we can still win the league.
Uhm, if we are gonna talk about injuries then please start running because we have had alot more than you did! Heinze, Robben(!), Pepe, Metze, Canna, Torres, Sneijder and now, Balboa, Soldado etc. etc. I mean come on! Our whole squad is or has been freakin injured. Dont talk about 3 players! You win with 11 players not 1, 2 or 3 individuals!

solaimaa

15-01-2008, 01:00:PM

Uhm, if we are gonna talk about injuries then please start running because we have had alot more than you did! Heinze, Robben(!), Pepe, Metze, Canna, Torres, Sneijder and now, Balboa, Soldado etc. etc. I mean come on! Our whole squad is or has been freakin injured. Dont talk about 3 players! You win with 11 players not 1, 2 or 3 individuals!

don't say stupid stuff. would you or would you not be 1st and 7 points ahead if ruud, raul, and robinho had only played one game together all year? the answer is no, you wouldn't, and that's the point i was making.

solaimaa

15-01-2008, 01:12:PM

KingPaulV

15-01-2008, 04:31:PM

There's no point talking to you morons. Posts like the last ones from Jaouadinho and queenpaul just reminded me why i haven't posted on these forums for months.

Jaouadinho: Do you read anything before you start spewing your crap? Just a few posts ago I said that you guys were the better team at the camp nou and deserved your victory, but clearly, you're too stupid to read before responding. I have nothing against any of Madrid's fans, and I am not bitter because you guys beat us. Plain and simple, I don't think you are the best team in spain, you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off. Like I said earlier, if you win the league, I will congratulate you, but right now, you are playing like a team from the segunda division. Even during our worst games we haven't played this bad, and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game. The fact that you don't get scored on has more to do with their ineptitude than your skill, except maybe Casillas. Haha the mighty Jaunma was making Marcello look like a schoolboy vs. Levante...levante!

Queenpaul: wtf are you talking about? did anyone mention referees? and why do you keep bringing this stupid stuff about inferiority complexes into everything. i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past. i could care less about how many champions leagues you have won, how many titles you have won, or any of those meaningless statistics. to me, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya. no barca fan wants their team to be like madrid, no barca fan is jealous of madrid, and if u think that, then you are quite delusional. we are proud that we are known as the players of attractive, attacking football, and we don't give a sh!t about you. yes, do i wish that teams would finish you off instead of getting 10 chances a game and missing them all? you bet your a$$ i do. this is what frustrates me, nothing about refs, nothing about how many titles you've won, or any other bull**** you've written. quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty, just go back and view the clip i posted, i'm sure that'll bring back great memories.

yeah, i reckon, go back to your hyatus or better yet dont come back at all, you're nothing but a moron, who as I pointed out brings up political crap that has nothing to do with the reality of world football nowadays, nor does it have anything to do with either the Barcelona or Real Madrid Organizations of today.....and please dont start that childish crap about videos ok; I didnt even look at it nor do I plan to, I can post videos myself thank you.

, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya
(N) as I said.....

you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off
hey guys isint this the definition of a sore loser???? :D

that handball given today was extremely 50/50, the guy just blasted it at his arm, and could easily not have been given
yup, but nobody is talking about refs or anything right!

and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game
not jealousy, really?........ really?!

And my finale, for you Solaimaa (notice, I had enough decency, to spell your name right; but of course, you're not a sore loser, or inmature)

quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty... then I will look at all your post and realize how grateful I am, and migthy I am to be a fan of the most hated, most talked about and ultimatelly most beloved club in the world!

Thank you Solaimaa, it is people like you who bring meaning to this forum and this rivalry

Socrates

15-01-2008, 05:36:PM

don't say stupid stuff. would you or would you not be 1st and 7 points ahead if ruud, raul, and robinho had only played one game together all year? the answer is no, you wouldn't, and that's the point i was making.

LMAO :D Now your talking about what if's? Who the **** cares, were 7 points clear and guess what that's a fact. You can keep moaning about what if this and what if that but it won't change the table. Oh and Dinho has been **** for a while now, you still expect something from him:D

OrgulloVikingo

15-01-2008, 06:24:PM

There's no point talking to you morons. Posts like the last ones from Jaouadinho and queenpaul just reminded me why i haven't posted on these forums for months.

Jaouadinho: Do you read anything before you start spewing your crap? Just a few posts ago I said that you guys were the better team at the camp nou and deserved your victory, but clearly, you're too stupid to read before responding. I have nothing against any of Madrid's fans, and I am not bitter because you guys beat us. Plain and simple, I don't think you are the best team in spain, you win games because you get lucky, and that pisses me off. Like I said earlier, if you win the league, I will congratulate you, but right now, you are playing like a team from the segunda division. Even during our worst games we haven't played this bad, and I just want teams to actually take a few of the many chances they take each game. The fact that you don't get scored on has more to do with their ineptitude than your skill, except maybe Casillas. Haha the mighty Jaunma was making Marcello look like a schoolboy vs. Levante...levante!

Queenpaul: wtf are you talking about? did anyone mention referees? and why do you keep bringing this stupid stuff about inferiority complexes into everything. i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past. i could care less about how many champions leagues you have won, how many titles you have won, or any of those meaningless statistics. to me, you will always be the real madrid, the team that i hate because of the political history of catalunya. no barca fan wants their team to be like madrid, no barca fan is jealous of madrid, and if u think that, then you are quite delusional. we are proud that we are known as the players of attractive, attacking football, and we don't give a sh!t about you. yes, do i wish that teams would finish you off instead of getting 10 chances a game and missing them all? you bet your a$$ i do. this is what frustrates me, nothing about refs, nothing about how many titles you've won, or any other bull**** you've written. quit giving yourself so much importance, and if you're feeling too high and mighty, just go back and view the clip i posted, i'm sure that'll bring back great memories.

When all is said and done, we are the defending champs, we stomped you this year, we won and drew against you last year, we have 9 cl trophies, we have 30 liga trophies and we are 7 points ahead this year. We are traditionally Spains #1 team. We are at the top of the heap and you my friend wish you were there. Keep on crying, it's what cules do best. You my friend are the red headed stepchild, you are the epitamy of envy. Now go on suck on your moms tit. You are a pure kunt. Please stay away.

AdyKew

15-01-2008, 11:15:PM

"i don't give a flying f*ck about what you've done in the past."

so why post a video of a has been, that happened in the past. seems like so long ago

yt23w

16-01-2008, 06:18:AM

In my experience there's no such thing as luck.

BACK TO THE FOOTBALL:...
Has anyone seen the statements that Mallorca chief Gregorio Manzano has made about refs favouring the bigger Spanish teams over the smaller ones? On the eve of the CDR match which we MUST win to progress! He says and qoute (from skysports.com)

"In Madrid we are going to play against Real Madrid and the referee as an added opponent.
"In the history of Mallorca, we have never had one major decision go our way."

awww...... someone needs a tissue! GEEEZZZ....Talk about trying to buy calls!

i believe we can make it thru, Schuster seems to have a way of bringing out the best in the players for big matches.

MaestroZidane

16-01-2008, 06:34:AM

Probably just setting up his excuse in case he looses. Even though the cup has not much meaning, I hope we make it through.

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 09:31:AM

justhammy

16-01-2008, 04:45:PM

"It was a titanic effort from both teams," said Barcelona president Joan Laporta. "In the end we had the luck to go through, but Sevilla are a great team and we saw two of the best sides in Europe competing out there."
eat my **** sol
I have great respect for every Barca fan. No bad words. But OMG, I COULDNT stop laughing at that one! F*cked by their own president! Poor Laporta, he doesnt know what he just did. ;)

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 06:30:PM

i thought it was worthy of a post haha. and i too have respect for decent barca fans like big al and a few others. they talk sense and respect our opinions.

KingPaulV

16-01-2008, 08:52:PM

Agree with what was said, funny that Laporta says that on the aftermath of the conversation here....

anyway, first half over against Mallorca, we played absolutely fantastic 14 shots to 1 from Mallorca, however, no goals, and Saviola has been abysmal....simply abysmal

Higuain, has been great, along with Drenthe (YES DRENTHE!) and Gago, I really hope the form carries, thankfully for us I believe Saviola will be taken out for the second half in stead of RVN!!! I cant believe we havent scored, we are looking like Barca right now and I dont like it! I'll take my two chances and two goals a game against this....

Arnau

16-01-2008, 09:41:PM

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KingPaulV

16-01-2008, 09:45:PM

before I go on to mmy coment, you are pitiful arnau, truly sad and as I pointed out you are more worried about us than your own team...

now, on to the game

I AM STUNNED! how in the hell we didnt win its beyond me, this is the craziness of football, it is what makes us cry and laugh....this is just stunning, I know I said I didnt care about the CdR but, to lose like this is terrible

Arnau

16-01-2008, 09:51:PM

cry cry but madrid always do wath mallorca do today !!!! and dont be hipcrid !!!! if barça lost you will be happy too :D

http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08033/ljuazjuazjuazjuaz979.png (http://xs.to)

KingPaulV

16-01-2008, 09:55:PM

but I wouldnt go to your little thread to celebrate the goal, I really dont watch Barca play other than Champions, I dont care about Barca,I just look at the sumaries of their games; if they lose yeah I am happy but I promise you I dont care about them that much....they are not that important to me....

but anyway, CdR is over, we pick up the pieces and we move on, we actually looked great today, just couldnt put them in, and it cost us...so let's go away with our heads held high!
Hala Madrid!

Arnau

16-01-2008, 09:58:PM

i just open sg because i play fifa and edit the game (wath do you do here? Oo) and see real madrid thread when Ibagaza score xDDD imagine wath happens my fingers move by hisself ;)

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 10:01:PM

arnau, one day youre 'luck'(laporta's words not mine) will run out mwahahaha
oh the irony.
we just lacked the finishing touch, plenty of urgency. cant complain about effort and we played into mallorca's hands really. they absorbed the pressure and killed us on the counter at the end. fair play mallorca. they wasnt scared to put a foot in though.
i wouldnt have liked to be in the presidents seat tonight. you could cut the tension with arnau's humour.
not a nice way to lose because we didnt get played off the field. i just hate losing like this.

Arnau

16-01-2008, 10:03:PM

where are the refeer from ??? must be catalan no???

P.D: are you sure its just laporta word xDD ? madrid dont have luck no?? but mallorca today have?

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 10:05:PM

MaestroZidane

16-01-2008, 10:11:PM

disappointed about the loss.. Despite the fact that it was the CdR, A loss is all the same..

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 10:11:PM

where are the refeer from ??? must be catalan no???

P.D: are you sure its just laporta word xDD ? madrid dont have luck no?? but mallorca today have?

see thats where catalans and us differ. we dont look for where the referee is from it is not a important to me or anyone else im sure.
and where did i say mallorca had luck? i didnt i said we played into there hands and countered us. i also said FAIR PLAY MALLORCA.

i have to type what you say into google translator to understand you. trouble is they dont list pathetic as a language

Sevillista

16-01-2008, 10:17:PM

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 10:28:PM

there is a resemblance. wasnt david villa at zaragoza then?
i understand what you are saying but the players should not take notice of the media. what the papers are saying etc. tonight i feel they played very well

Arnau

16-01-2008, 10:57:PM

see thats where catalans and us differ. we dont look for where the referee is from it is not a important to me or anyone else im sure.
and where did i say mallorca had luck? i didnt i said we played into there hands and countered us. i also said FAIR PLAY MALLORCA.

i have to type what you say into google translator to understand you. trouble is they dont list pathetic as a language

you own coach, say this after a sevilla-madrid ;) if you dont remember the words:
- where are the refeer from? eeh you know??
-catalunya...
- thats all (ironic tone)

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 11:15:PM

yes i remember, he clearly still has some barca traits about him:amika:
and what he was trying to say was things didnt go our way and the ref must have been catalan to give everything to the opposition. its a joke.(sarcastic tone)

now climb back down your ladder SEVEN STEPS

Socrates

16-01-2008, 11:17:PM

I'm not going to slam you guys because clearly Sevilla aren't doing any better.

This loss reminds me of the 2003/2004 season. The newspapers and some of the players got WAY ahead of themselves and set their sites on the triplete. If you will remember, they lost the copa del rey final against Zara and went on to lose the other two competitions. The triplete talks resurfaced this season and look what happens. Time to bring the feet back to the ground.

Well not really, I mean we dominated Mallorca from start to last and could have won by 6 or more goals. The finishing was missing but everything else was there. It's not like we put out a half assed performace and were overrun by Mallorca or anything like that. BTW this game reminded me of the CDR game vs Betis last season, same outcome aswell. Lots of chances but noting for us in the end.

Anyway a very frustating match to watch, I swear we could have played another 90 mins and still not scored. But overall meh, so we are out but on the upside Drenthe looked amazing, Gago, Guti, and Higuain were also very good today.

On to the derby, HALA MADRID!

Socrates

16-01-2008, 11:19:PM

there were positive's to take from it though. drenthe was good plenty of skill and effort just lacked the final ball. i watched it from a crappy stream and only saw glitches but from what i saw he looked promising. also higuain was awesome. i like him alot but i prefer him as a striker not a winger.

Agree, I would like to see Higuain lineup in our 4-3-3 in place of Raul for a couple games, after the derby of course. I mean Raul has to play that one but with the 4-3-3 right now it would be great to put Higuain on the right could you imagine.

--------RVN-------
Robinho-----Higuain

AdyKew

16-01-2008, 11:26:PM

yep, def one for the future. higuain always seems to understand van nistelrooy. what im tryin to say is he is a good link up, a SS. and with strikes like that against mallorca in the first leg he deserves it.
another good thing is he never seems to slow. always chasing defenders and putting pressure on keepers. i lost count the amount of times he turned defense into attack last season by pressuring players

big al

17-01-2008, 12:25:AM

KingPaulV

17-01-2008, 12:40:AM

true big al, I am one who while I like to play well, I like titles better, so, that is what it is...I am hurt that we lost while playing so well more than anything, I mean last time we outplayed a team like this we won 5-0 and now look at us today, go home empty handed, but like I said, time to move on, big game ahead the next 10 games in la liga decide the title!!

R.9

17-01-2008, 04:02:AM

Well that bad luck with la CdR continue... Anyways there La Liga and the CL to look foward and el derbi madrileno comming up. :clapwap:

Socrates

17-01-2008, 04:30:AM

irony i say .... last season there was an ongoing discussion betwen cules and merengues the only thing that matters is who puts it in and not who deserved to win.... its times like this the mine wonders if your are glad or pissed off you were right.

yes its only the copa del rey but when we lost to getafe last season it hurted the same like anything else and when you wint it you celebrated like anything else...... tought this kind of trophy only has a better meaning if its company with a CL or la liga....

No not really, first off Mallorca did deserve to go through. They did what we could not.

Also your Getafe game was a lot different than our game today vs Mallorca. I mean you Getafe overran you guys and just ****ted on your goal. This was also the time the when the whole mentality of your team was weak too, especially away from home. Being knocked out right now to a team that did not overrun us does not have nearly the same effect as Getafe did with you guys.

big al

17-01-2008, 05:28:AM

Socrates

17-01-2008, 12:40:PM

OrgulloVikingo

17-01-2008, 06:10:PM

but still its a loss.. you still got eliminated by a midtable team at best.... plus you may have ran over mallorca today but i think you guys really lost in mallorca...

i still think its the same thing.... we won ran over getafe in noucamp ( messi's goal) and couldnt hold on a 3 goal advantage ... you guys had to rain over mallorca cause that loss in mallorca but couldnt score.... the frustration its the same.... plus you may think the CDR isnt that big of a deal, but the way the players played their hearts out today showed otherwise....

Al, first off, Mallorca deserved to go through because they did their business at home and took advantage of the one opportunity they had. We could have had 7 or 8 goals but guess what? Could of, shoul of means nothing. We simply weren't good enough. And personally, cdr means alot to me. It is our elusive cup. We can never win it because unfortunately, Real Madrid never field a strongest side for it and it shows that we don't value the cup, unfortunately! Yes, the players yesterday wanted it and I wanted to advance very much so. Why pass on the opportunity to win la cdr? Who wouldn't want to win a triple? and the cdr is part of the triple. I don't understand other madridistas mindsets and their indifference for this cup! It boggles. Anyway, congrats to Mallorca. Now on to Atletico...and this is the first time in many years that I feel atletico are the favorites at the calderon. We need to have that attitude we had when we played Baca back. 2008 so far is very lame

Socrates

17-01-2008, 08:56:PM

Al, first off, Mallorca deserved to go through because they did their business at home and took advantage of the one opportunity they had. We could have had 7 or 8 goals but guess what? Could of, shoul of means nothing. We simply weren't good enough. And personally, cdr means alot to me. It is our elusive cup. We can never win it because unfortunately, Real Madrid never field a strongest side for it and it shows that we don't value the cup, unfortunately! Yes, the players yesterday wanted it and I wanted to advance very much so. Why pass on the opportunity to win la cdr? Who wouldn't want to win a triple? and the cdr is part of the triple. I don't understand other madridistas mindsets and their indifference for this cup! It boggles. Anyway, congrats to Mallorca. Now on to Atletico...and this is the first time in many years that I feel atletico are the favorites at the calderon. We need to have that attitude we had when we played Baca back. 2008 so far is very lame

Well here is how I see it, if we are there than great and if not than meh...the league and or CL is way better than this cup. Fact is the game against Athletico is more important than the cup is.

OrgulloVikingo

17-01-2008, 11:49:PM

Well here is how I see it, if we are there than great and if not than meh...the league and or CL is way better than this cup. Fact is the game against Athletico is more important than the cup is.

What if we don't win the league and cl? realistically, the cl will be very hard. While la liga is our best chance. A cdr game here and there would not be so detremental to our players. It's just so elusive to us but only cause we don't value it.

KingPaulV

18-01-2008, 02:05:AM

OrgulloVikingo

18-01-2008, 02:56:AM

Perhpas Orgullo, but nobody is saying that it wouldn't be nice to win it, however it should not and does not define us or our season, at least in my eyes...We need to continue to add points in the League and I am confident we can make it deep in the CL, how deep I dont know, but deep enough I believe....we just need to let bygones be bygones and move on, cause if we get stuck on this loss it could begin the unraveling of our season

Of course we have to move on. I am just pointing out that our undervaluing the cdr is unnecessary. What's a few extra games with our "deep" squad? Since the cdr is supposed to be the easiest of all the cups what does that say about us if we can't win it. What I'm trying to say is that I rather end up the season with 1 or 2 cups instead of none. If we don't win la liga or cl then at least a cdr would be somewhat satisfying. But, it's obvious that none of our coaches ever cared about la cdr. We care more about the Bernabeu trophy! Nuts!

KingPaulV

18-01-2008, 03:13:PM

i see your point, but you know its an institutional thing, maybe if the trend continues (the player choices) in the offseason, then we will make a serious push for La Copa, who knows.....

In other news, our defense is in shambles, I honestly believe that our current rut of bad football/bad results can be directly attributed to the lack of continuity on defense....with a healty Ramos, Canna, Pepe, and Heinze we are top notch, hoewever that has only happend like 5 times this year truly sad, and sadder still wh en you consider that Pepe has been superb when he has played and Cannavaro needs somebody like him to watch his back, when Pepe plays cannavaro is magnificent....I must also admit that Canna has been much much better this year, I mean like a lot better...

and Marcelo cant defend yet, I said that before and I stand by that, he is learning and that is great, but he is still a little far

big al

19-01-2008, 12:35:AM

OrgulloVikingo

20-01-2008, 01:57:AM

No not really, first off Mallorca did deserve to go through. They did what we could not.

Also your Getafe game was a lot different than our game today vs Mallorca. I mean you Getafe overran you guys and just ****ted on your goal. This was also the time the when the whole mentality of your team was weak too, especially away from home. Being knocked out right now to a team that did not overrun us does not have nearly the same effect as Getafe did with you guys.

I couldn't have put it better myself. I remember that game. The only thing in common is that we both lost but Getafe dominated Barca in that game. Actually we should have won like 7, or 8-0, easily. Mallorca deserved to advance though.

KingPaulV

20-01-2008, 04:38:PM

The derby coming up! here we go fellas, lets hope that our good play from CdR carries over, with the goals this time.....Hala Madrid

KingPaulV

20-01-2008, 06:15:PM

gol!!! Toma Atleti......But Pepe goes down,.....again

KingPaulV

20-01-2008, 06:52:PM

HT 0-2
My Goodnesss Iker is not human!!! that kid is starting to become the best in the world period....I mean wow.....as far as the rest of the team, I mean the early goal helped, two mistakes by atleti two goals, what can I say!! other than I am happy, as of right now 10 points clear off the top, Oh how I wish racing would give Barca the business!!! that would solidify us at the top

Kulixs

20-01-2008, 07:10:PM

The difference between the two sides right now is Casillas. If Casillas was in Atletico's net, they might be winning. Abbiati's attempt at saving Ruud's goal was woeful.

Jaouadinho

20-01-2008, 07:58:PM

big al

20-01-2008, 08:01:PM

casillas should be consider for this season not only the best goalkeeper in the world but at least in the top 5 best players in the world, plain and simple.... this season its all about a casillas.

Jaouadinho

20-01-2008, 08:07:PM

casillas should be consider for this season not only the best goalkeeper in the world but at least in the top 5 best players in the world, plain and simple.... this season its all about a casillas.
to be faire iker has been playing like this for the past 4 years and its a shame it has taken everyone this long to take notice.

justhammy

20-01-2008, 08:09:PM

What a magical TEAM performance! Ruud-Raul prove again that they are one of the best (if not THE best) strike-couple in world football. Robinho was devastating again! Ramos owned Aguero and Cannavaro was the king in the back. (not a single mistake). Torres had some weird things going on at the start, but got better and better in the game. Only weak link was Salgado, but they didnt run riot against him as they should have. Reyes is much weaker than Simao. In midfield. EVERYONE who had their complaints about Gago should not after this game be quiet. The guy was controlling the midfield as a 30 year old. He made 1 mistake, not more. But we can forgive him for that. He really has along with Guti, the best vision in this team. He sees passes no one else seems to see. Great performance again. (for the second time in a row). Guti has won his place back. Sometimes he sould go for goal himself, but its not a big deal. Sneijder, after a few awful performances, has picked up the momentum! Really a very good performance!

Now over to the MoM. Suprise?! Uhmmm NO, San Iker. As good as most have played this game. This was NOT gonna be won if we had another GK. With Dudek in goal, it would have been 4-2 for the farmers of Madrid.

Btw, im glad that Drenthe is staying! Immense potential this kid has. I wasnt his biggest fan when he played at Feyenoord, but he has won me over.

HALA MADRID!

Jaouadinho

20-01-2008, 08:14:PM

Btw, im glad that Drenthe is staying! Immense potential this kid has. I wasnt his biggest fan when he played at Feyenoord, but he has won me over.

HALA MADRID!

yeh i very much agree he didnt get that much time but i did see a few glimpses of what he could do, i hope he gets more playing time after this, his attitude seems to be getting better as well. nice to see robinho give him a nice hug when he cam on. i hope it was professional and nothing more LoL.(H)

OrgulloVikingo

20-01-2008, 08:24:PM

another win at the calderon this year.

diffence between the teams 2day was the goalkeeprs, IKER CASILLAS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!

iam so glad we beat those rascist mother****ers. (Drenthe was getting monkey chants from the atletico "fans")

We were better in the second half. Should have probably ended up 2-2. anyway, good win for us playing an atletico side who is doing well atm and in front of their hostile loser followers :D P.S - Casillas is out of this world and Robinho's move to set up the 1st goal = outstanding!

OrgulloVikingo

20-01-2008, 08:27:PM

P.S2 - Gago is our long term answer and Drenthe is very skillful, full of pace and I think he has a very bright future...hopefully with us

Moreira_Benfica

22-01-2008, 12:22:AM

Looks like pepe is out for a month, possible 6 weeks with a leg injury

R.9

22-01-2008, 02:43:AM

Looks like pepe is out for a month, possible 6 weeks with a leg injury

They should have wait a bit more to make him play now he out for a month :rolleyes:

KingPaulV

22-01-2008, 01:12:PM

Socrates

22-01-2008, 03:01:PM

F**** I hate these injuries man, they are going to cost us sooner or later, we cant go on like this....interestingly enough my Real Madrid side in Football Manager 08 is also plagued by injuries, but I did manage to sign Ralph Van der Vart, before the season started...hehe

It really sucks because it's our starting defenders that keep getting injured, namely Henize and Pepe. Like you said we have only played with out full starting defence like what 3-5 times this season.

Anyway it was a very good win against that Atleti side at there home turf and us having to use Salgado and Torres. Very happy with the win, that move Robinho pulled on Pablo after he ****ed up was just sick, man I still don't know how he keept the ball in. Also this should shut big mouth Kun Aguero up, he should never doubt Casillas again because it came to bite him in the ass. Apart from Casillas, Gago was immense. He is really is filling in for Diarra nicely and his passing is better too. At times of the game Atleti tried to play like Sevilla by attacking anything in a white shirt ( more so Guti than anyone else ) than thorw a temper tantrum like a kid...too bad there not as good as Sevilla is at doing it otherwise it might have really hurt us. All in all it was a great win and still 7 points ahead baby.

BTW RVN's goal was hilarious:amika:I never though that was going to go in but man the guy really can score whichever way he wants to.

justhammy

23-01-2008, 01:45:PM

Guys, great news for our Argentine youngsters!

Pipita Higuain and Fernandito Gago are going to the Olympics with Argentina!! It is a VERY impressive team and it shows that our youngster are doing a great job impressing the NT coach! Finally Higuain gets his call-up!! The strikers in that team are Messi, Aguero, Lavezzi and our Higuain, so that really shows the class of this kid! To be in a list with these names is impressive! He has been showing pure class the past few months! Everyone knows what I think of Gago so I wont get into that ;)

Drenthe will (from what I've heard) go with the Dutch Olympic team. Same goes for Robinho! (possibly also Marcelo)

Btw, Im still enjoying that fantastic win over those farmers Sunday ;)!! lol

Socrates

25-01-2008, 08:03:PM

Great news here guys, Cadena Ser has just reported that Garay rejected an offer from Lyon ( they offered 15M ) becuase he really wants to plays for us. Portugal ( former Racing coach who is now back with us this season ) had told him not to do anything because we are going to make an offer for him in the summer. Man if this is true than that would be great for us, I really hope we do infact sign him.

KingPaulV

25-01-2008, 09:06:PM

Imagine that back line in a couple years, probably the youngest, and best in Europe, maybe the world

Marcelo (by now he will know how to attack and defend)

Pepe (He has shown his worth, now stay injury free damn it!)

Garay (I have a man crush on this guy I think he is fantastic, I have watched Racing just to watch him)

Ramos (need I say more, currently best RB in the world...priceless)

btw Marcelo and Robihno both got the call up, as you mentioned, apparently Kaka and Ronaldihno will be the two reinforcements that Dunga is allowed to take....

Arnau

25-01-2008, 09:13:PM

ramos is great (very dirty too) but the best rb man is Dani alves by a mille, my god wath a player

KingPaulV

25-01-2008, 09:26:PM

ramos is great (very dirty too) but the best rb man is Dani alves by a mille, my god wath a player

I think Ramos can be dirty I agree, but I attribute it more to competitive streak which often leads him to bend the rules, he is the heart and soul of this younger, never quit Madrid....as for the best RB...I am sorry but I guess you've been watching a different season, I dont care about over time or last year....RIGHT NOW, Ramos is the best RB in the world; that might change, but as of Right now he is solid Gold

Socrates

25-01-2008, 10:06:PM

ramos is great (very dirty too) but the best rb man is Dani alves by a mille, my god wath a player

LMAO you say Ramos is dirty than dare to bring up Dani Alves?? HAHA, sure Ramos loses his head a at times but no way is he a dirty player, not any more than any other player while Dani Alves on the other hand is a diving, whining, and cheating douchbag. Also Dani can't defend nearly as good as Ramos and his antics make me dislike him right away. Dani is very good but with his antics....yea no thanks.

Arnau

25-01-2008, 10:15:PM

yeah right alves is dirty(he do 3144324321 faults in ever games) but ramos sometimes lost his mine and can broke a leg xD and is a stupid kid with high ego u_u

Socrates

25-01-2008, 10:35:PM

yeah right alves is dirty(he do 3144324321 faults in ever games) but ramos sometimes lost his mine and can broke a leg xD and is a stupid kid with high ego u_u

Err what? How many tackels of his have you seen that could have broken a leg? I can't even recall he trying to make any kind of tackle like that. As for being a stuipd kid with a high ego? Lets see he is one of the best young defenders in the world with everything at this feet and he still trains the hardest and plays with the most fire as well. Ramos is what every players should be, he is very much like Raul or Casillas in this way.

Arnau

25-01-2008, 10:40:PM

aaah, shut up i dont wanna figh with a madridista some of they looks like a wall :S

ramos belive he is the best of the universe, tath wath i mean

KingPaulV

26-01-2008, 04:08:PM

Funny thing I just read guys...you know how barca fans and most people criticize our playing style as not been pretty as being anti-football....well the vaunted Barca boss, Rikjhaard has just asked his players not to turn every goal into a "work of art" interesting, he asking them for more goals and less pretty in other words....here is the article in Spanish, and before anybody goes saying that it is a fabrication of Madrid press, realize that this is from a press conference

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/rijkaard-necesitamos-obras-arte/dasftb/20080126dasdasftb_8/Tes

Arnau

26-01-2008, 05:11:PM

and you own president its with ultra sur of real madrid
http://blogs.ya.com/puertasabiertas/files/ultrasur.jpg
antivolence will talk with calderon if keep this actitude

finaly schuster its sancioned for his words at alvarez izquierdo.

KingPaulV

26-01-2008, 05:48:PM

Well, arnau, I dont know what one thing has to do witht he other, either your understanding of the english language is that poor or you are just stupid........

Ultras Sur are like most Ultras in Europe, the scum of the earth as far as I am concerned, so it really makes no difference to me what you say about them, Any Ultras are pretty much the same bullcrap....and we all know Calderon is an idiot when it comes to speaking, so that is nothing new, at least we recognize our president has a donkey's butt for a mouth, you cules dont

Arnau

26-01-2008, 06:23:PM

i'm from spain its normal if i dont talk a perfect inlish

you are idiot??? laporta play with his life in a fight vs boixos nois (ultras)

AdyKew

26-01-2008, 08:34:PM

ultas are wankers that do not care about the result of a football match they go for a fight at the end. They ruin the beautiful game. I remember the warm reception figo got on his return to the nou camp pig heads, bottles of piss and allsorts of things. So look in your stands before you insult ours. a little kid with a big ego? That is not ramos, that is alves and you. Alves throws his toys out of the pram every chance he gets. Ramos a fighter and he has a heart twice the size of alves'. Only one candidate comes into mind when someone mentions the best rb in the world...........michel salgado hahahahahaha
I am joking by the way. Its ramos for me, all day long

big al

26-01-2008, 08:39:PM

well your all wrong mates .... the best right back is called maicon ..... alves is old news and ramos plays better as a cb.

KingPaulV

26-01-2008, 09:56:PM

Big Al Maicon is so so for me. I have seen him play a number of times with both the Brazilian NT and with Inter and he doesnt impress me, He is no Cafu I tell you that much....that guy was the bomb btw, at his prime one of the best RB's ever...

I still take Ramos at this point in time; and Big al if you have seen Ramos play at cb this year for us, then you might change your opinion, his worst games this year have been at CB to be quite honest

Arnau

26-01-2008, 10:00:PM

AdyKew

26-01-2008, 10:05:PM

maicon is a good shout. but just think how good ramos will be in 5 years time when he is maicon's age. very promising

Tiago_10

27-01-2008, 12:02:AM

Arnau

27-01-2008, 12:06:AM

naaaaaah sergio ramos is much, but much better in right than in center, he is lateral but for the santion of javi navarro start to play in center and madrid sign

Socrates

27-01-2008, 01:23:AM

I agree that Sergio Ramos may be better as CB (this doesn't mean that isn't good or didn't improve as a RB) but I have no idea what are you guys on about Maicon as being the best RB, having seen many games of him for the NT and Inter I'm not at all impressed.

I'm a Benfica fan and still I have to tell you that Bosingwa (FC Porto) is way better than him. He's already in front of Miguel in the NT, excellent season he's been having. Definitely a player to watch in Euro2008.

Agree on Maicon...the guy is just meh, nothing too special. I think Sergio will eventually be a CB for us, right now it's better for him to be a RB but when he is 25-26 in his prime than he will be a CB for us. The guys is way too good to be just a right back afterall.

Bosingwa...did he use to play center mid? I doubt it's the same guy as I am thinking, as the one I saw was just horrible in everything. It seems like you guys will have a very good defence in Euro 08 and of course wingers too.

big al

27-01-2008, 02:12:AM

Tiago_10

27-01-2008, 05:33:PM

Agree on Maicon...the guy is just meh, nothing too special. I think Sergio will eventually be a CB for us, right now it's better for him to be a RB but when he is 25-26 in his prime than he will be a CB for us. The guys is way too good to be just a right back afterall.

Bosingwa...did he use to play center mid? I doubt it's the same guy as I am thinking, as the one I saw was just horrible in everything. It seems like you guys will have a very good defence in Euro 08 and of course wingers too.

Yeah, actually he's the same guy. He used to play in many different positions, but he settled down at RB and has improved greatly in that position. A bit like Miguel, who used to play has a winger and was very inconsistent in that position and is way better as a sideback.

Jaouadinho

27-01-2008, 07:51:PM

i just think ramos has showed his best level at cb not only talking about this season.... i might think we can make a better objective opinion from the past season given how many games have been played this season and how many games has he played as RB...... i mean puyol has played this season many games as a RB and many think he's the best defender of the world but it doesnt necessarially make him the best RB in the world right..... maicon is a true RB he isnt made to play in any other position.... last season maicon proved to inter they made a wise decision on buying him, this season he has exploded.... and for those who are thinking he's in the mould of cafu thats were your are starting all wrong, maicon isnt your typical brazilian side back thats all iam going to say....
but Ramos offers so much more as a right back to the attacking part of the game. check out how many goals he has set up form the right and how many assists. puyol does a good job for you guys defensevly at right back but he doesnt offer you much going forward, where as ramos does great at both which makes him the perfect right back.

i agree that he will be a centre back when he is a bit more mature maybe when cannavaro leaves or retires, but at the moment i dont know any better right back in the world better then ramos.

Maicon isnt even close i havnt seen him that much this season but from what ive seen before he does the job but he isnt as good as ramos.

PS BARCA ARE DRAWING 1-1 WITH BILBOA.

heres the lineup for todays match against villareal.

cassilas, Salgado:(, ramos, cannavaro, torres, gago, guti, baptista, robinho, van the man, raul.

EDIT: BARAC GAME FINISHED 1-1 WE REALLY NEED THE WIN NOW, WE CAN GO 9 POINTS CLEAR AT THE TOP!!!!!!!!1

KingPaulV

27-01-2008, 08:31:PM

1-1 so far great game zig zag action

funny alvarez izquierdo (ref) just missed a penalty that would have favored us....that bastard...btw Michel Salgado is havin his best game I have seen in probably 2 years

KingPaulV

27-01-2008, 08:50:PM

ok First half over 1-1 its been a great game by all accounts, we should be up at least 3-1 or maybe 2-1 but Diego Lopez (former Madrid player) is having the game of his life...a nice surprise, Michel Salgado is playing outstanding football, I hope he keeps it up...and also special mention to Guti and Gago, they are working that midfield.....

Its going to come down to one play I can feel it, very nice game I hope it goes our way

AdyKew

27-01-2008, 09:00:PM

there is no doubt in my mind where the 3 points are going tonight.
i think 3-1 madrid. baptista to score one of them

KingPaulV

27-01-2008, 09:14:PM

GOOOOOOOOOOOL Robino!!! his second

AdyKew

27-01-2008, 09:17:PM

finally, how many attempts did we need? most of our shots throughout the whole game have been straight at lopez.

KingPaulV

27-01-2008, 09:40:PM

Oh my God what a game we take a 3-2 lead right after the villareal goal and diago Lopez is having the game of his life...and they are still losing

KingPaulV

27-01-2008, 09:58:PM

OOOOH What a game!!! I take my hats off to Villareal they are real fighters, they came to play but so did we....Awesome game.....

My special mentions to Robihno, scored two and was a threat the whole game; Guti, he was really on today he made all the passes he had to make a was unlucky not to score himself; GAGO! He was huge today he controlled the midfield and provided the winning pass; Michel Salgado, he covered amazingly, and provided on attack, I guess the old man had one last hurrah in him.....Diego Lopez, he was huge for villareal, he played an amazing game and yet they lost..

HALA MADRID!!! 9 points clear!!!

justhammy

27-01-2008, 10:11:PM

Sensational! It all worked! Defense was solid when they were countering. But Canna should have done better with that first goal! Still a rock solid performance by the defense! Best man was definatly Sergio Ramos. The midfield found its magic touch. Gago controlled! He was phenomenal! Shame for that yellow card though! Guti, MoM for me! Perfect game! Baptista was solid. He helped alot in defense too! Now over to the attack, where Ruud-Raul worked very hard and IMO had a great game. Shame that they couldnt score. But the other man, yes I count him as an attacker now, Robinho was different class! Huge performance! 2 goals! That first one was really great imo. Its difficult to take that one and place him like that! Ow how can I forget, even though he lost his clean sheet, he had a great great game! San Iker!!!

All in all, Superb performance by both teams. Great game. Fully deserved win!

HALA MADRID!!

solaimaa

28-01-2008, 03:09:AM

Congrats on the league title guys, there's no way we can catch you now. Enjoy your success. (Y)

Maybe we can face each other in the CL and we can knock you out there! Haha that might begin to make up for this season...

yt23w

28-01-2008, 08:56:AM

Does anyone know what Cygan was blowing up about? he seemed extremely upset about something after the goal, but from watching the highlights i can see anything?

oh, and Ramos... by far the best RB in the world.

plus i need help deciding what Madrid jersey to get! i can get Plain or Raul, Robben, Van Nistelrooy, Cannavaro, Robinho, Sneijder or a RETRO old style 1950's jersey with the draw-string-collar.... help me decide.

KingPaulV

28-01-2008, 03:07:PM

I would like to recomend the old retro style, I tend not to get names on my jerseys as I support the club not the players per say...so that if Robihno was sold to Roma and so forth it wont make me like Roma, I am a Madridista before a a player fan, so I would encourage you to get the no name jersey if you are getting the new one.....(i like players, thought I might not necessarily like their teams....ex. Messi, Cesc, C. Ronaldo, Drogba, Rossi, Iniesta, etc. you get the idea.)

AdyKew

28-01-2008, 03:20:PM

Cygan was complaining that there should have been a free kick against raul when the ball came over the top, he backed into raul who was standing his ground and fell over like a sack of crap. but that was the incident leading up to the throw in that we scored from so it probably wont be on any highlights

i have mostly got plain real shirts but i will admit to getting carried away after robinho's signing and get his name on the back of one of them haha. i think he has more than repayed my trust in him though

OrgulloVikingo

28-01-2008, 06:11:PM

Ramos by far. Aside from his talent, his hunger, determination and fighting spirit far outclasses maicon's, period. End of debate. As for ultras, Barca have nazis as well, who believe in the supremacy of catalans and attack many foreigners, especially middleeasterners and africans in cataluna, yes. And, no, not all ultras are problematic. That is a myth. The real meaning behind ultra has nothing to do with violence, it has to do with devotion to the club. Many ultra groups denounce violence in fact. The meaning has been skewed over time. By the same token, whenever you get a large groiup of people together especially with alcohol and emotions, there is bound to be a fight. I'm not saying that all ultra groups are like this (US practice organized violence) but that is the dynamic of the crowd phenomenon. spontaneous violence should not be associated with organized violence.

Socrates

29-01-2008, 03:46:AM

Another nice win for us guys against a very good team with M. Torres and Salgado as our FB's and Ruud was kind of crappy but we still won:D Robinho, Guti, Raul, and Gago were all very good. It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Gago when Diarra comes back, man every game Gago is better and better and can more than hold his on as being the only DM as shown in this game.

AdyKew

29-01-2008, 11:42:PM

dont get me wrong, diarra is good, very good. but for me gago has something extra, he has more class. diarra can be clumsy at times and give the ball away but in gago that doesnt happen. he has good vision something diarra doesnt have. i know everyone gets sick of all the references to football legends eg messi-maradona and robinho-pele but gago reminds me alot of pirlo of ac milan

AdyKew

29-01-2008, 11:52:PM

Also we have signed a kid called Daniel Opare from ashanti gold for around 1.1 mil pounds so about 2.5 mil euros. he is 17, plays right back and from the looks of the vid in the link below he is very quick and looks very comfortable attacking and defending
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teBftD8i3QA

big al

30-01-2008, 01:02:AM

Socrates

30-01-2008, 02:51:AM

hey guys , i just found out were about to sign garay, its a posiblity its only smoke , but ist supose the news comes from a good reliable source... i am only posting casue you guys also wanted to sign him.... to be honest i havent seen to many games from him and idont know why we need him, maybe we are going to get rid of either thuram or marquez...

For real? I think that right now G. Milito is better than Garay but only by a little bit and IMO Garay can be better than Gabi in the near future...not to sure about singing for you guys either but it would'nt be a bad move for you guys. After all Thuram does suck.

Opare, I doubt he will start though. I actually think we should play Diarra and Gago togeather

---Ruud----
Robinho--Raul
---Guti or Wesely---
--Diarra--Gago

We are playing a 4-3-3 anyway and I don't think this will be so defensive either because both Gago and Diarra can push up or we can use send our FBs up like we have been doing all this season without too much worry about the space left behind them.

Jaouadinho

30-01-2008, 11:55:AM

justhammy

30-01-2008, 12:28:PM

hey guys , i just found out were about to sign garay, its a posiblity its only smoke , but ist supose the news comes from a good reliable source... i am only posting casue you guys also wanted to sign him.... to be honest i havent seen to many games from him and idont know why we need him, maybe we are going to get rid of either thuram or marquez...
Garay would be a great signing for you guys. But there are a lot of other teams after him including Liverpool, Man Utd and us. So I dont know where he would end. He can get in the starting line-up of almost every team, he is fantastic!

Daniel Opare was signed a few weeks back. He is really supremely talented! I saw him at the WC u-17 and he owned that whole tournament (alongside his 2 collegues, the 2 strikers). He has blistering pace and is fantastic in defence! So we acted great by getting the kid. Could this mean that in the future Sergio Ramos gets back to the centre?! I dont know.... And btw, he has a freakin FANTASTIC cross!!

KingPaulV

30-01-2008, 02:35:PM

We will see on Opare......but as far as Garay that would be a shame, he would rot in the bench in Barca they are way deeper than we are at Cb and he really wont see much first team action there...With us he could possibly be the starting CB in a year or so, after Cannavaro leaves, maybe in less as Cannavaro is slowly declining....

Jaboldinho

30-01-2008, 04:43:PM

Socrates

30-01-2008, 07:02:PM

KingPaulV

30-01-2008, 07:43:PM

I don't know about that. He could well be a starter for us, as Zambro isn't what he used to be and Puyol is playing a lot as a right back. He could be RCB with Gabi as LCB... Definitely wouldn't rot in the bench. Don't think he would be a definite starter in your team either.

are you telling me that you guys are not deep at CB? for at least two years? come on now....Metzelder although good is not at this point a starter, also injury prone...Pepe althought worth his 30 mills is also injury prone...Heinze? come on how many good years does he have left, he was brought here to play LB anyway, Cannavaro has got at the most two more good years in him and that is not even playing at the rythim he is playing right now, maybe splitting the season in half....and that's it...Cause Torres is mostly a RB, and Ramos is our undisputed RB whenever possible. so i firmly believe that Garay would have more first team action here than in Barca at least in the near future...