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WE5 +League

The most advanced gameplay update for FIFA 07™ returns!

Welcome to the +League of World Evolution 5. + is additional, as this is an advanced addition to World Evolution 5 [WE5]. No other update compares to the sheer complexity, realism and challenge of +League.

+League increases the Simulation aspects to WE5 for your FIFA 07™ gaming experience.

+League enhances the emotion engine and psychologically reflects on different playing styles, situations and dramatic events!

The WE5 +League shot mechanic is based on logic rather than scripted error. The script to the mechanic is more logical in terms of ball speed, shot height, cpu defensive pressure and shot type.

Warning: +League is a very challenging add-on. You must have great tactics in attack and defence to hold off the advanced CPU


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Enjoy,
NK.

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thanks! i am downloading the files right now and i hope this is the best ai ever for fifa07. :p

This update is really amazing! thanks to you NK FOOTBALL
absolud the best gameplay ever Thank you very well:shades:

Well, I downloaded it, and when I'm installing it, and the screens goes black (I don´t remember how its called, it's where you give orders to Windows), Windows gives me an error, it says something about "the memory can't read...", the I go to Fifa carpet and it seems to be installed, but when I go to play the game it crashes and it throws me back to windows, if you can helpe I beg you to do it, because I really wanna play with this new patch of yours.

Hey NK, it seems like the computer attacks even less now with this new patch? And whats strange, is they suddenly get a few lame goals to catch up... I was playing as Arsenal, literally dominating reading 2-0 when suddenly in the last 10 minutes of the game they got 2 weak crosses in for goals, both headers, one from almost outside the box, that my goalie just acted like an idiot and they both deflected off him into the net. I thought you got rid of the ai catch up? how annoying, I worked so hard for a clean sheet and their cheap goals tied it!

NK, did you make the goalies more stupid? for some reason they seem to lack the ability to stop the soft slow shots, but they dive like mad and act like super humans when it comes to stopping the fast accurate shots. this is especially obvious when my goalie gives up soft goals even though i dominate the match like I mentioned above

great great great, best gameplay you made so far.
Only check one problem !!!
I reinstalled Fifa and then installed your gameplay, and I choose default Fifa detailes for better performance.
But my game is more gliching and stoping for miliseconds ....
I choose LOW settings and again gliching :(

I have
1gb RAM
Ge force FX5200
Intel Celeron 2.0

I just say it`s gliching more then before ....
But gameplay is super for now:)

Thanks for the feedback guys,

Enjoy!
NK.

Really, the best gameplay update!!!!!!!!!!!
AMAZING.
Congratulations NK.:bob:

Really, the best gameplay update!!!!!!!!!!!
AMAZING.
Congratulations NK.:bob:

Thank you Amifla, very much appreciated and happy playing!

NK.

played a few more games. WAYYY too much offense now, before It was so tought to get through, not its way too easy, both by my players and the AI. I play 20 min games on world class. need better D and smarter on both ends, especially my players, they need to learn how to mark the D and clear the ball when possible. the AI gets their feet and heads and bodies in the way of my crosses automatically but my AI does none of that

played a few more games. WAYYY too much offense now, before It was so tought to get through, not its way too easy, both by my players and the AI. I play 20 min games on world class. need better D and smarter on both ends, especially my players, they need to learn how to mark the D and clear the ball when possible. the AI gets their feet and heads and bodies in the way of my crosses automatically but my AI does none of that

You're finding it easier to break the defence?! Shock to me is this, I'm finding it much harder personally.

Are you owning the cpu and beating them easily?

NK.

Would be good to see some video footage.

NK.

no, I can score, but the CPU also scores, what makes me mad is that the CPU cheats by making my AI play dumb when they score. Like I said above, by cheap headers from outside the box, from crosses that my defense plays dumb with and stands there, etc. I can easily break free but until I master the shooting I only can score 3-4 goals in a 20 min game.

Please make the goalies better, my defense smarter, and the goal kicks go farther!

well the AI still loves to dribble in circles making it easy for me to steal and cause a break, the last man commits himself and I can break a few times a game but it isnt a guaranteed goal because of the great shooting mechanics. I dont have anything to make a video though.

ugh, the comeback AI is ridiculous. I dominate a game and suddenly give up 4 goals? no way. And they were cheap goals, missed markings, lame long shots, etc. ridiculous

it's meant to be challenging. If you're up 3-0, switch team mentality to defence, turn off counter attack, switch to a more defensive/midfield formation, make sure you have fresh defenders on the bench.

The cpu will push for goals.

I don't seem to be giving up an cheap goals, which teams are you playing against and what team are you controlling?

Try a friendly 20 min match as England against CPU Brazil.

NK.

thats probably because your stupid and playing the game so unrealistic...

mentioned before some graphic problems after installing we5. my apologies to nk, as i reinstalled fifa and stuttering happens on the unpatched version also. never happened before and doesn't appear to happen on a couple of other games i tried. any ideas? a graphic card setting that got changed or something? i have a nvidea 6200 with latest drivers and have played around with the settings to no avail. the stuttering happens mainly on longer passes and kicks.

it's meant to be challenging. If you're up 3-0, switch team mentality to defence, turn off counter attack, switch to a more defensive/midfield formation, make sure you have fresh defenders on the bench.

The cpu will push for goals.

I don't seem to be giving up an cheap goals, which teams are you playing against and what team are you controlling?

Try a friendly 20 min match as England against CPU Brazil.

NK.

obviously the CPU will push for goals, my issue is with the AI who decides when they are down, they are going to cheat their way to tie or victory. suddenly my defense cant mark the men I tell it to mark? Yes I sub anyone in the yellow stamina wise, I do not have any attacking strategies on, I pass the ball around to keep possession... I am complaining about what is maybe a built-in comeback? You mentioned you got rid of it in one of your betas but it is back in this version.

Also in the betas it was extremely hard for either myself or the AI to break out and score multiple goals, now both the AI and I can do it every game, the betas had a much tougher defense to break, they held back and did not rush to challenge only to have me go past easily by merely sprinting then just running then sprinting another direction to easily go past.

I like it how the defense will now give me space in their end, but why cant they do it when I am just passing between defenders? they have unlimited stamina it seems like, rushing me every time I pass. that is unrealistic. I should be given space in my end but closed down the closer I am to their goal

thats probably because your stupid and playing the game so unrealistic...

heres a tip, if you are going to call someone stupid, at least use proper english. your =/= you're

and this is completely unnecessary to begin with. are you 12 yrs old?

so now I've seen this goal by the AI a lot, a shot from outside the box hits the crossbar on top, my goalie dives and lays on the ground while their attackers rush to the ball and score an easy goal while everyone on my team watches. That was 1 cheap goal. I still scored a hat trick with Henry, 3-2 vs Fulham. They had one good goal where they got past me, but all 3 of my Henry goals were using the lead pass button and finding open spaces, the AI should close down the angles easier and not allow me to have so many breaks. In your beta they did this but now with this new version they are back to being dumb taking wrong angles to me and the ball

OK i played my first match against classic 11 in a 20 mins match,I was england in LEGENDARY diffculty.At the end of the first half i was 3-0 down.By the end of the second half i was 2-3 down and in extra time i scored to equalize.In the extra halves i scored 3 more goals winning 6-3.The patch is very good but my only disappointment were the GK's.

My GK seemed so dumb and he let such easy shots in.Weak headers and easy saves were let in and he also deflected the balls inside for goals which made me mad.One goal was so dumb that i could not believe it.I passed the ball back to my keeper and he instead of catching the ball went to the side as if some force field blocked him for getting the ball and then let the cpu take the ball and score.Thats how i conceded the 3 goals.The opponent keeper is very good.All you need to do is improve the GK's.

heres a tip, if you are going to call someone stupid, at least use proper english. your =/= you're

and this is completely unnecessary to begin with. are you 12 yrs old?

Now you know how i felt when you called me a liar and said i played the game unrealistically?

I never called you stupid, I just said that I thought you were either lying, or just taking advantage of bugs in the AI to do nothing but score.

Don't start a flame guys.

improvements will be made to the gameplay, but not publically released. More news soon.

I'll stop the user GK's from making silly errors.

NK.

I just put it on and started a season with Torino, World Class, Normal speed. First match vs. Udinese and I was up 4-0 by half and won 5-2 final! The CPU does actually seem easier to break this time around, I had something like 24 shots in that game. Ball physics are great, goalies not so much. The CPU keep made a couple of bad throws basically straight to my forward instead of booting it. Also on the high quality graphics setting all my cut-scenes are now blurry...can go in and fix it probably but just letting you know.

making passes and crosses less accurate, giving the goal kicks more power, and the keepers more skill would really make this almost perfect. Plus making both player and CPU AI smarter in terms of trying to stop passes, crosses, and shots, because the number of shots is just too high and the games are almost all high scoring.

Other than the user GK having mental lapses, I've never had any problems with the gameplay on a regular basis. Now have there been matches that were 5-2, 6-3? Yes. But I would say I've only had 1 out of every 7 or 8 like that. Is there occasionally a high number of shots? Yes. But it's not that terrible.

The bottom line is that this gameplay does tend to make you think and react more. For instance, you can't lay 3 yards off a striker and wait for him to make a move. You have to close him down, or he's going to have a wonder strike.

Overall, I think with 10 min halves, at WC, it's a pretty realistic feeling game. The shot stats get out of control sometimes, but the scores for the most part stay pretty reasonable, provided that you close guys down and put them under pressure. Otherwise, you're going to see lots of 20-25 yard strikes.

Unlike other people on this forum, i am terrible at this game. I played this game on semi-pro and lost 4-2 with arsenal against newcastle. I actually really enjoy playing this and thank you NK for releasing it. I cannot say anything about dumb keepers cuz i get scored on alot more than just some stupid goals towards the end of the game. The CPU pulled off quite a few moves that i found to be simply amazing.

I never called you stupid, I just said that I thought you were either lying, or just taking advantage of bugs in the AI to do nothing but score.

Liar was a big word to use...Dont do it again.

Hello, hasn't anyone noticed that the ball has way too much backspin? Look what it does when it hits the adboard behind/besides the goal: it rolls to the board and the suddenly jumps appr. 10 meters in the air.......

Hey NK. I want to change the distance of goal kicks and goalie drop kicks. Can you tell me what lines in the ai.ini should i adjust? Thanks very much. You're the best:)

Hey Bruce, all changes you requested have been done and dusted and are working great. there's more to change to get this right and balanced then a few digits, so I won't start going into this. But I have fixed it. GK kicks, etc have more pace and realism now.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Liar was a big word to use...Dont do it again.

no, it wasn't. And is that some kind of internet threat?

Funny, though, how you could score back then when the defense was actually more challenging, compared to now when the defense is easier to break you cant seem to score much? That is why I thought you were trying to boast and lie.

Stop spaming now guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

NK I would like shot meachanic to be litlle closer to +league,
and goalkeepers can be better.
I think that you should slow down game just for a bit ,
I play on normal speed it`s litlle faster, and slow speed is to slow ....

no, it wasn't. And is that some kind of internet threat?

Funny, though, how you could score back then when the defense was actually more challenging, compared to now when the defense is easier to break you cant seem to score much? That is why I thought you were trying to boast and lie.

I play only on legendary and against 4.5-5 star teams and am easily scoring 5-6 goals.I can feel that i can score more..So just give me some time.I am very busy and manage to play a game a day.Once i do,I'll let you know.N what you may find a challenge may not be for me and vice versa.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Sounds really cool..Cant wait for the Tweak...When can we expect it???

Hey Bruce, all changes you requested have been done and dusted and are working great. there's more to change to get this right and balanced then a few digits, so I won't start going into this. But I have fixed it. GK kicks, etc have more pace and realism now.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Hmm till now NK, I still cant find the reason of why you can't tell me anything about editing gameplay, even just a little thing like goal kicks and goalie drop kicks. Just a question and no offence NK, is there any ego in you in editing gameplay?

Well i just trashed Argentina 9-3 in Legendary :bouncy:.Should have been 10 as i should have got a free kick from a great position in the last minute but the dumb refree allowed advantage and the time got over.Anyways for me 9-3 is good.

Hope you are happy now Y0DaddyAlex :evil:

Anyways NK most of my goals and CPU goals were thanx to the deflections by the keeper into the net.You have to do something about the deflection.Can you make it like they deflect it outside for a corner or something cause even weak shots are reacted late by the keepers and are deflected inside which made me mad.The shot mechanics is too easy and sometimes feels like original EA mechanics.Can you make it a little bit harder.

That's all i Guess.Well i won my Challenge :amika:

i am fixing the GK's now.

My theory is they are too close to the goal line, thus when a deflection is made, there is NO time or space for a defender or GK to get back and make a second sav/clearance. Also, by making the GK come out further off his line, more 'clean goals' will be scored and less 'awkward goals' due to in-accurate dives.

Hope this info is good news to you all! :)

NK.

ok so had a few good shots and GK stays further forward. the saves have gone out for corners. So far, not on deflection into the net for an easy goal :)

cpu is harder playing tougher and shooting is less forgiving.


:fluffy:
NK.

Hey Bruce, all changes you requested have been done and dusted and are working great. there's more to change to get this right and balanced then a few digits, so I won't start going into this. But I have fixed it. GK kicks, etc have more pace and realism now.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Hmm till now NK, I still cant find the reason of why you can't tell me anything about editing gameplay, even just a little thing like goal kicks and goalie drop kicks. Just a question and no offence NK, is there any ego in you in editing gameplay?

i am fixing the GK's now.

My theory is they are too close to the goal line, thus when a deflection is made, there is NO time or space for a defender or GK to get back and make a second sav/clearance. Also, by making the GK come out further off his line, more 'clean goals' will be scored and less 'awkward goals' due to in-accurate dives.

Hope this info is good news to you all! :)

NK.

But by bringing them forward,Wont long shots be easier to score?When the GK tries to go back in the hope of saving it but misses it.Similarly for lob shots?

N What about Free-Kicks cause even easy saves in the free-kicks are deflected into the goal by the keeper.Any solution for that?

Just played a great match.It was England[Me] Vs Germany in legendary difficulty 20 mins match.Germany were leading 4-1 at the 70th min and i thought i was going to lose but i did not lose hope as it was a game of football and nothing is over until its over so i kept on pushing and was able to equalize before the 90 mins were up and in extra time won it 5-4.

Had lot of shots hit the post though.

I did not like 2 goals scored by germany.One was a weak header from the edge of the penalty area to which my keeper reacted late and let it in.

The other one was a free kick where the ball went through the wall and into the net.There was no space between the wall still the ball managed to squeeze through.Dont know how.

cheap goals are the only goals the CPU can score on me... sometimes I want to shutout average teams but I just cant except maybe once or twice no matter how hard I try.

Are you guys still playing League+?

Are you guys still playing League+?

Why is there anything better to play?

Just wondering if you might've gotten sent a beta or something. I was wondering if there was a PM'd beta or not.

Just wondering if you might've gotten sent a beta or something. I was wondering if there was a PM'd beta or not.

Nope.What made you think that?

Has anyone even got anything like that?

Buddy i dont think the strict refree is still not strict as he still does not give penalties for clear penalties.

cpu does take me down in the box with no calls. and they are crazy strict on me when i am fighting for position to get a good header cleared on a goal kick or free kick

I'll be doing what I can with the next update, no miracles! Game-engine doesn't call obvious fouls, nothing to do with referee strictness or editing.

EA's fault really.

I believe the next update will be far more challenging, but in the right places.

e.g. harder to create the best chance to dominate the game and still find it hard to swallow a loss. If you lose, it's because you didn't deserve it...rather than winning unfair. If you play better, you win. :)

all difficulty levels are the SAME. Except for CPU mistakes, errors, accuracy and goalkeepers. So if World Class is annoying you, drop to pro. It'll be exactly the same pressure and cpu challenge, except more mistakes and you'll have a better goalkeeper so you can defend better.

NK.

UNDERGROUND - will be released soon. This is the name of the next update.

Underground is the continuation of 07, but 08 will start shortly. I believe the next 07 update will play better then the 08 demo.

NK.

Hey Bruce, all changes you requested have been done and dusted and are working great. there's more to change to get this right and balanced then a few digits, so I won't start going into this. But I have fixed it. GK kicks, etc have more pace and realism now.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Hmm till now NK, I still cant find the reason of why you can't tell me anything about editing gameplay, even just a little thing like goal kicks and goalie drop kicks. Just a question and no offence NK, is there any ego in you in editing gameplay?

Hey Bruce, all changes you requested have been done and dusted and are working great. there's more to change to get this right and balanced then a few digits, so I won't start going into this. But I have fixed it. GK kicks, etc have more pace and realism now.

cpu defence is aggressive and harder to break, cpu attack is quicker and more dangerous.

shot mechanic harder, inbetween WE5 and +league. Much better.

Thanks guys,
NK.

Hmm till now NK, I still cant find the reason of why you can't tell me anything about editing gameplay, even just a little thing like goal kicks and goalie drop kicks. Just a question and no offence NK, is there any ego in you in editing gameplay?.

I'm sorry NK but i just played 4-5 matches with the +League patch and i must say it is awful. awful! I mean with this update you ruined everything you gained with WE5. It is a joke. I must say it is hard but it is hard in completely the wrong places. Totally unrealistic. The main reason for this is that the CPU is making fun of you with their mountain-like un-movable bodies and the fact that in a 1vs1 chance of winning the ball the CPU has 300% (yes, 300%) chances of winning it and the 5-6 box type marking. This is bull. I could give you loads of other examples but it's pointless because it would be just my opinion and not many would care but i just wanted to tell you this because at least it's honest feedback that you need in order to progress. I think you should start over from WE5. It was perfect IMO but the difficulty gap was to big between Pro and WC. If you would of made the WC difficulty a bit easier then that would of been my final one.

you guys might not be getting a FIFA 08 update, as EA have taken out the cpudiff file allowing me to edit the difficulty levels.

Sad truth, I may have nothing to truly edit so once you guys find yourselves scoring plenty of easy goals, I won't be able to do anything about it.

There is no ego in what I do Bruce, send me an e-mail to nkfootball@hotmail.co.uk and ask me what you wish to know and I will explain. The only reasons I have not done so in the past was because there was a lot more to change then a few values to get your desired result :) But I will let you figure that out as that is the best way to find your own style and gameplay editing. e.g. my updates are obviously done by me cause I leave my own style in them, whereas you can tell when you're playing another update.

cosminnfs, is it awful because you cannot win? or awful because you believe it should play a different game of football? WE5 was realistic sure, I think +League is too. Self preference plays a big part on you cosminnfs and is kind of a 'villian' to my updates, as you stand out like a sore thumb with your opinion, which is on the other end of the spectrum to others. This isn't a bad thing at all, quite the opposite. If you believe WE5 had the better gameplay and just needed a few tweaks, I will see about getting the latest ball physics and all that into a package with the WE5 standard CPU and do the tweaks you want then release that for you and others who may share the same views.

I'm not here to try and ruin your game experience.:gavin:

If the full release of FIFA 08 doesn't give me the editing I require to further progress the gameplay for you guys, we're all in for a sad year of gameplay updates from me and other editors (if any). If EA took these files out on purpose, it's pathetic. I may try contacting a source to ask a few questions.

Thanks guys,
NK.

That would be odd since EA has said in the past that they welcome third-party edits for their PC games. Although that could just be a load of propaganda too...

codename:Underground (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8449069//b2e70f07b5a307fbaaa1973c69e9620ede44272aee6e445571 0375fe8cc8de9d0a727c95a781b778)

This looks like a beta version, but this is an update in itself. CPU has a choice between Aggressive and Simulation. The first being the hardest difficulty, the second being easier, but most likely look more realistic to play against. The choice is yours.


NK.

codename:Underground (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8449069//b2e70f07b5a307fbaaa1973c69e9620ede44272aee6e445571 0375fe8cc8de9d0a727c95a781b778)

This looks like a beta version, but this is an update in itself. CPU has a choice between Aggressive and Simulation. The first being the hardest difficulty, the second being easier, but most likely look more realistic to play against. The choice is yours.


NK.

So is that the official release NK???

Anyways i am going to try it out now.

N cosminnfs..Just get better at the game.I can easily beat the cpu 8-0 in legendary.N i am talking about top teams.Sometimes i may have a problem in scoring that much but still i easily manage 5-6 goals.

Its really sad if fifa 08 does not have the editing file cause the game is going to be so awsome and you could have made it even better.So just praying and hoping the final release has the editing file.

Anyways has anyone played Fifa 08 yet?

I have... I didn't think it played much different from FIFA 07 to tell you the truth. But the demo resolution was only 800x600 and I couldn't stand to look at it any longer so I stopped.

Anyway, NK, you're update is just beautiful. So beautiful, in fact, that EA's programming faults start to come into play. For instance, I play a long ball to my target man (Drogba) just outside the box. He holds up play until my midfielders and wingers catch up. I play a brilliant through ball out to the left wing to Malouda. He darts towards the backline and cuts back to lose the defender. My CF's (Drogba and Pizarro) are both covered in the box, so I look to pass back to my CM's who should be running towards the play. They're NOWHERE to be found. In fact, both Lampard and Essien are some 40 yds away from the net. Unfortunately, the update can only go so far and I believe that's a fault of EA's hard coding. But the option to do that is there... and it wasn't before.

I also find that this is the first update where I've had to play everything by the book. I've been using the simulation gameplay that's said to be easier, but I think in some regards it might be harder. You have to be tactically sound or the CPU will attack you to no end. I've conceded goals relatively easily to CPU counter attacks, but only because my defenders were out of position or, in the case of the fullbacks, got caught too far upfield. I've actually had games where I'd get overaggressive and the CPU would pick it apart.

I love this gameplay. It's more challenging and seems much more realistic now. The only negative I've noticed is that the GK's seem to parry the shot a lot and on distance shots, they don't parry them behind for corners, they end up in the run of play. But it's not nearly as bad as it's been in the past.

Well i tried underground patch and installed the agressive gameplay.

I played a 20 mins match legendary difficulty France[Me] vs England.

I trashed them 10-2.

Well these are the things i noticed.There were 3 own goals in this game and the Cpu just heads the ball in for me.Dont know why.

The GK are good and they dont deflect shots in anymore but i still feel their reactions are a bit slow.You can still make them react faster.

The shots now if missed goes way wide like in the earlier installments.Even Finesse shots got that wide.But i dont have a problem with that.Maybe others will.

N can you tell me the difference between simulation and aggressive cause you have not mentioned anything about it.

This time round i played the same match with the same settings on simulation type gameplay and i won 4-0.

Simulation type gameplay was much better than agressive.

But the CPU attacks were better in agressive.

There were too many un necessary shots taken by the cpu in the simulation type and too many un necessary fouls given when compared to agressive.

I felt that the ball moved faster maybe because of the ball physics.

I think a perfect update will be a combination of the 2.Take the pro's of both the style's and we have a better patch.Gk's and cpu defence felt better in simulation.Finesse shots needs to be improved a little to make it feel realistic.

N i did feel that the game lagged sometimes.Not as bad as with WE 5 but still could feel some lag.

Ok as for Fifa 08 demo,Can someone tell me if its worth downloading now or is it better to wait a few days for the full game cause i dont mind waiting.N what are the contents in the demo?Like how many teams can be selected,The difficulty,Time limit etc...

ssj, I think that the Extra Detail patch might've been installed by default. I think if you ran the program that allowed us to choose the detail setting (Should be in your FIFA 07 Directory) it should fix the problem. It fixed the lag problem for me.

Well i played more and i have to say something is really wrong with the defenders.Cause when i tried to take the ball with the defender he instead of collecting it kicked the ball into my net for a own goal.Even the cpu defenders do silly things like this.So plz solve this problem.

Now for the GK's...Their reaction to shots are ok but for headers they react very slow especially for weak headers and let it in for a goal.Straight long shots too instead of catch they try to deflect it and let it in for a goal.So i think you should increase the reactions of the keepers so that the saves look better and the keepers being better.

ssj, I think that the Extra Detail patch might've been installed by default. I think if you ran the program that allowed us to choose the detail setting (Should be in your FIFA 07 Directory) it should fix the problem. It fixed the lag problem for me.

Can you tell me the name of the program cause my lag problem was solved thanx to Nk's patch which allowed me to select the detail i wanted.

It should be in your FIFA 07 main directory and it should be called: AdvancedDetail.exe and have the WE5 icon. Hope that helps. That seems to be the patch that allowed us to choose the detail settings.

based on the feedback of cosminnfs and aspects of simulation style playing.

new beta; click here to download (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8458612//86791862acbfbbcf616f9087dac9e39727b894d390619133bf 8a42d08a582879d99e23a79abf8aec)


not really a new name or anything, just updated files man. enjoy.

NK.

please please please make the goal kicks farther!! they barely go to the halfline when they should be making it almost to the opposite box

Hi NK, I sent you an email. Hope you reply me man

Is there a difference If I install only WE4 and if I install WE1,WE2 and so on before I install WE4?

Or with other words to install new gameplay do I need to install only WE4 or I need to install previous patches before?

Well will try it out and give you my feed back soon.

Well i tried out fifa 08 demo and i enjoyed it and i have a feeling its going to be Awsome!!!

please please please make the goal kicks farther!! they barely go to the halfline when they should be making it almost to the opposite box

Yes I agree. I've ask NK to do that long time ago but he nv take that into consideration and keep telling that this and that has been fixed but still did not meet my expectation. Thats why i wanted to edit the gameplay myself and ask NK which variable to change that but again NK don't tell me anything about it. I feel that hes hiding something:( WHY NK??? You called me to send email to you and waited for 1 day but did not receive any reply but eventually see that you got time to reply to this forum?

in the latest beta, goalkicks go much further. I don't see the problem. Do you want to score on goalkicks?:confused:

Pinball is for arcades, my goalkicks go way into cpu half.

NK.

Buddy Goal kicks go way further than the half way line,I dont know what problems them have.

Well the new beta is great,I lost to Classic 11 2-1 in legendary.It's really hard to get a proper shot.I think you have brought back the delay system in the defence back which made defending a little hard.The goal keepers can still be improved as they try to catch impossible balls allowing for goals and the CPU still take some wild shots.

Plz improve these 2 aspects and the game should be perfect.Cant really comment on shooting right now as i dint get many shots on target lol..Its really surprising for me as i usually have 30+ shots on target.The refree's were better but still sometimes does not give penalities.But i guess you cant do anything about that.

Well thats it.Just improve on those aspects.

Cheers :amika:

Haven't installed this latest update but I have the 6.3 beta. I'd like to see some more cards for the AI players. I know the professionals don't usually take cards, but I have played about 10 games without any card for the AI. When the AI does a foul, my player just falls backward or sometimes forwards and I get a free kick.

Buddy Goal kicks go way further than the half way line,I dont know what problems them have.

Well the new beta is great,I lost to Classic 11 2-1 in legendary.It's really hard to get a proper shot.I think you have brought back the delay system in the defence back which made defending a little hard.The goal keepers can still be improved as they try to catch impossible balls allowing for goals and the CPU still take some wild shots.

Plz improve these 2 aspects and the game should be perfect.Cant really comment on shooting right now as i dint get many shots on target lol..Its really surprising for me as i usually have 30+ shots on target.The refree's were better but still sometimes does not give penalities.But i guess you cant do anything about that.

Well thats it.Just improve on those aspects.

Cheers :amika:

I personally enjoy the delays, because when it is in YOUR favour, you can totally out-skills players' and it feels so cool. But defending against Classic 11 will be a bitch since many of them classic pro's will be very hard to tackle and have better skill/dribbling then defenders do for marking.

Try playing against Brazil :)

I will tune it up some more mate and see what happens, I want the defence to be even tougher, but as you may notice the pace-control has been brought back in for true realism in defensive situations so they aren't as aggressive, this makes it harder to break for the right reasons, with good man-marking and jockeying.

NK.

I'm going to attempt the slow play down some more. Should be interesting. If results are positive, less chances will be in there along with more build-up in the RIGHT places rather than back-end here and there, pinball.

NK.

Yes your update is awesome but your also right. You might want to slow down the pace a bit.

I haven't got a chance to play the beta yet. Won't get to until sometime on Monday.

But I did like the delay system a bit better. It allows it to feel more like football. You can use the stand-still skills now and actually make controlled runs at defenders when out on the wing, something that the last beta didn't let you do.

I'm making some real good changes to the emotion engine. e.g. Playing a derby game won't be a singled out crowd for home and away fans, but rather home and away support will be amazing, though home fans will have MORE support, the away fans will be loud and proud! It's a great feeling.

More emotion in dramatic events, fouls, offsides, shot, saves, injuries, bookings, it's amazingly cool! I love turning up the crowd noises and hearing the ROAR when my player gets a break-a-away and the boo's when the away team foul my star player. It's wicked.

As for gameplay itself, I'm creating a slower, more paced gameplay feel. Less "wow" more tactics. You've got to pass.

NK.

Well i did play against argentina and beat them 4-0.

Will try out brazil too.

Just remember to make those 2 changes in the next update.

N keep up the Great Work :junior:

:crazyboy: @NK how can you have two SG forum accounts? i've being banned before because of multiple accounts :taz:

The ball physics are going to be re-done. Just found a bug in the passing of my physics and what sucks is everything else is perfect.

Such a shame to not find the problem.

NK.

great. Thanks! Still hoping that the offense will be toned down, its really hard to have 1-0 or even 2-0 games now. just too easy to score both for me and the CPU

well games now are much slower at getting around the pitch and chances are less. I had a 20 min game where in the 1st 45 min the cpu had managed 5 shots, 1 on and me, 0 shots at all. Very tight game.

Other matches have been more open, but this game was showing how some games can vary much better then before.

NK.

I want to test this beta. I want to see this in action because I'm playing 40 min. matches on World Class.

I think the problem is, the shots you take from a turnaround or standstill seem to be too precise. they happen way too often, to get a good shot from distance you need a running start to fire it in the corner. ball possession should be a priority, but the cpu always runs at me with tireless fatigue all game long when im passing it around in my end. that causes the game to be too fast pace, forcing me to rush ahead and attack instead of slowly working my way forward.

so if the shots would be made still more difficult to be accurate from standstills, goalie kicks a little further, and less rushing CPU, it would be almost perfect and not give so many offensive chances to each team.

Hey first time poster, long time reader.

Was just wondering about the installation. how do i know it installed correctly? like what will happen in game because i tried to install it once and thought i succeeded but no notable difference. :S Please help.

plays well, but goalies do seem weird sometimes ( in their behavior ).

everything is re-worked and improved from ball physics to cpu. I've re-done the physics and am still tuning it all to slow the game down.

It's more realistically challenging rather than challenging video-game terms, I've tried football-challenge. e.g. cpu is hard to break because they mark up, NOT because they send 2+ players' at you constantly.

NK.

Sounds cool..Plz release it soon :rockman:

anyone know were i can download the whole game ive recently moved house and lost the CD :( not really looking for a torrent tho?

This is the best gameplay i have ever played.Superb work!!!
I have one thing to say that can u update this one so that good players such as c.ronaldo.ronaldinho will do tricks when cpu plays.

Andy88. The files which NK edits have nothing to do with animations. Someone at http://italia.soccergaming.com/ have made an animation patch 07 long time ago. You can try that out. Good luck=)

Andy88. The files which NK edits have nothing to do with animations. Someone at http://italia.soccergaming.com/ have made an animation patch 07 long time ago. You can try that out. Good luck=)

Nice find.Dude any way to see it in english.I cant understand anything cause its in italian.

Thanx!!!

Nice find.Dude any way to see it in english.I cant understand anything cause its in italian.

Thanx!!!

No problem and you're welcome ssj4karan.

At http://italia.soccergaming.com, under "Ultimi Download" column, click on Animation patch 07. After that, scroll down and you should see " Scarica questo file!" Click on it and download will begin. Good luck:)

Actually i was interested in the Captain Tsubasa patch for Fifa 07.So can you tell me what that patch does and how to download it and if it'll be in english?

N like the similar way you mentioned in your post can you tell me what else is worth downloading from there and how to download it?

Thanx!!!

Actually ss4jkaran, I also don't know what it means cos its in Italian but I'm Singaporean LOL. So i just try my luck and finally i managed to download. At http://italia.soccergaming.com, if you did not have CEP installed, i think is worth trying classic patch 07, referee patch 07, although i did not download any of them except for animation patch 07.

To download the file, as i said earlier, choose what you want to download at "ultimo" column and click "Scarica questo file!" (which i think means "Download File") and your download will begin. Hope you understand what i mean man:) Good luck:)

What does the classic and refree patch do?

Classic patch will add classic teams + players and other features im not too sure of. For referee patch, it adds lots of referees in your game.

If you want to try those patch, i recommend you to backup your FIFA directory.

I think i'll pass.Cause i thought the refree patch will improve the refree's decisions in the game.

Thanx anyway for that link and your effort.

Should have a new beta out for you guys tomorrow.

Worked on reducing chances, tuning up ball physics, shot mechanic and CPU defence/attack, along with new goalkeeping values.

NK.

Great News...Cant wait!!!

new beta (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8497579//89a272d0016563b25706c779cc28cd5c9f07b868a7b5894f40 2ac226fdbf8b99edc85b6a29836fe5)

Try it out fella's. Report any problems asap to get them fixed up.

NK.

Cool..Feed back will be given in the evening ;-)

NK I just tested your new beta and forgive me if I offend you in any way but with every update i'm getting madder and madder and i just can't take it. First of all I don't know what kind of "logical" thinking you posses but why do you make a gameplay update, you tweak that update for the next 2-3 updates and then you start and make a brand new one instead of focusing on the initial update. I mean how can you use our feedbacks if you keep making brand new updates that have the bugs that you corrected from our feedbacks in the previous versions. This is just stupid. This way maybe by 2009-2010 we'll finally have a good update for Fifa 07. I'm serious. We are losing patience. FIFA 08 is about to be out and now you made this last beta that is absolutely horrific. We can't even control the players right, don't you see it ? If we keep D pressed when the CPU has the ball, the players goes erratically "after" the CPU player that has the ball. I mean what it that ? And plus, couldn't you have noticed this youself before releasing it so that we can report it to you and lose more time by fixing it even though you could of fixed it before you released this last beta ? Again... stupid. WE5 was freakin' awesome but it had minor bugs (so it wasn't too much work to make it perfect) and then you released WE5+League which is waaay worse then WE5 and you continued to update that one, not WE5 which was very good. Again... plain stupid. Why ? Why do you wan't to keep as awaiting for months or maybe years till you finally wake up and you focus on one single update which you can make it better through our feedback instead of making dozens of updates with major bugs in major areas. And another thing I hate is that when you work on a brand new update you promise spectacular things like it were to be a world renowned life changing game play and then you release it and sometimes it is what you promised to be but only in some areas, the other areas been a total f*ck up (WE5 in my opinion was the only update which indeed was a complete game changing update, I/we were totally blown away by it and then what do you do ? You abandon it...). Sorry but I just can't take it anymore. We are just going nowhere. Can't you see it ? Don't you want to be the guy who is known for making the most perfect final game play for fifa 07 ? To know that the entire planet is playing a better FIFA thanks to one single guy which is you? Or the guy who just makes 3-4 game plays per month just for fun because no offence but this how I'm seeing things. This is just an opinion. I hope you take this message seriously and I sincerely hope it's a wake up call. And BTW for me the final version of your game-play would of been the WE5 with the Pro difficulty a bit harder. Then I would of been out of your life forever but you just ignored me that time; threw away your "old" toys and bought new ones.

NK I just tested your new beta and forgive me if I offend you in any way but with every update i'm getting madder and madder and i just can't take it. First of all I don't know what kind of "logical" thinking you posses but why do you make a gameplay update, you tweak that update for the next 2-3 updates and then you start and make a brand new one instead of focusing on the initial update. I mean how can you use our feedbacks if you keep making brand new updates that have the bugs that you corrected from our feedbacks in the previous versions. This is just stupid. This way maybe by 2009-2010 we'll finally have a good update for Fifa 07. I'm serious. We are losing patience. FIFA 08 is about to be out and now you made this last beta that is absolutely horrific. We can't even control the players right, don't you see it ? If we keep D pressed when the CPU has the ball, the players goes erratically "after" the CPU player that has the ball. I mean what it that ? And plus, couldn't you have noticed this youself before releasing it so that we can report it to you and lose more time by fixing it even though you could of fixed it before you released this last beta ? Again... stupid. WE5 was freakin' awesome but it had minor bugs (so it wasn't too much work to make it perfect) and then you released WE5+League which is waaay worse then WE5 and you continued to update that one, not WE5 which was very good. Again... plain stupid. Why ? Why do you wan't to keep as awaiting for months or maybe years till you finally wake up and you focus on one single update which you can make it better through our feedback instead of making dozens of updates with major bugs in major areas. And another thing I hate is that when you work on a brand new update you promise spectacular things like it were to be a world renowned life changing game play and then you release it and sometimes it is what you promised to be but only in some areas, the other areas been a total f*ck up (WE5 in my opinion was the only update which indeed was a complete game changing update, I/we were totally blown away by it and then what do you do ? You abandon it...). Sorry but I just can't take it anymore. We are just going nowhere. Can't you see it ? Don't you want to be the guy who is known for making the most perfect final game play for fifa 07 ? To know that the entire planet is playing a better FIFA thanks to one single guy which is you? Or the guy who just makes 3-4 game plays per month just for fun because no offence but this how I'm seeing things. This is just an opinion. I hope you take this message seriously and I sincerely hope it's a wake up call. And BTW for me the final version of your game-play would of been the WE5 with the Pro difficulty a bit harder. Then I would of been out of your life forever but you just ignored me that time; threw away your "old" toys and bought new ones.

Don't you think you're being unfair here?

WE5 became too easy, does anyone else agree. SSJ?

NK.

I'm going to stick WE5 on my system and see how it runs. Hope I wasn't playing something else cause of Vista's protections from files.

Will report back,
NK.

Well to be honest I prefer easy in stead of buggy. I want to be able to play it not to struggle with bugs that make you wanna quit FIFA. And even if it was easy, that what difficulty levels are for. You could of made the Pro and WC difficulties for normal people and Legendary for super-human players like ssj4karan and I mean that in a good way btw. And if you want to fit in the gameplay more difficulty variety just push back the difficulty levels by one level to make room for more diversity. Like make Amateur difficulty the Semi-Pro difficulty, the Semi-Pro make it Pro etc. because it is clear that in your gameplay there is no place for newbies at FIFA.

Well to be honest I prefer easy in stead of buggy. I want to be able to play it not to struggle with bugs that make you wanna quit FIFA. And even if it was easy, that what difficulty levels are for. You could of made the Pro and WC difficulties for normal people and Legendary for super-human players like ssj4karan and I mean that in a good way btw. And if you want to fit in the gameplay more difficulty variety just push back the difficulty levels by one level to make room for more diversity. Like make Amateur difficulty the Semi-Pro difficulty, the Semi-Pro make it Pro etc. because it is clear that in your gameplay there is no place for newbies at FIFA.

Good feedback, thanks man.

I will do this. The delay system isn't a bug, it is a set delay for attributes based on level of dribbling skill VS defender marking/tackling ability.

The way to do it successfully is how you would in real life. Any defender up against Ronaldinho should never just run at him, in FIFA this would be just running up without any thought holding down the tackle button, cause in real life he'd BLAST past you, so in the game, the defender is delayed and out-classed, Ronaldinho is too good to just do this too and so are other players'.

Soooooooo, here's how to tackle the b*stad. Jockey him, run at him, THEN time the tackle button. Seems a tad silly at first, but challenges become realistic, timed and rewarding. You can block shots easier now also.

You believe the game is full of bugs, please list these :) I need to iron them out. As said, the delay system isn't a bug. I've put it in there so that if you are say England V some crap team, it is easily noticeable which team has better ball control, dribbling, speed, team chemistry, etc. Basically, you'll kick their ass. but if your next opp' is Brazil, it'll be you on the back foot more often. This is realism. However, I will tone it down as the delay is a bit long, which is causing the 'buggy' look as the defender runs off in another direction LOL. My friend, I will fix this.

I will make the lower difficulty modes easier. Don't want noobs having problems beating amateur! which right now they prob will :(

But if you read WE5 and other installation information sections, it clearly says in the agreement that it's for advanced FIFA players'.

I myself am advanced. SSJ is, well.......crackers! LOL.

NK.

Nice arguments guys..I am going to test it..My feed-back will come within an hour.So just wait for it :rockman:

two choices, advanced or noob (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8498648//1a2d8c67643a399b4235589dfed7edb37ceed6bbe6a0a62ff1 4c9906dd06f3915b4da586a6f631f5)

An advanced Semi-pro player, is diff' from a Noob semi-pro player. Advanced semi-pro is the moving down the difficulty level by choice to avoid too many defeats in higher levels. A noob semi-pro is simply new to the experience and required to play on semi-pro to win.

Thanks guys,
NK.

One thing you really could change is that NOT to update the cfg_pc_h.ini files, as not everyone wants those files to be updated, including me. This is also what is most likely causing lag.

All i can say is HAIL THE KING :p

Man the latest patch is AWSOME :jacko:

I LOVE IT !!! :jacko:

Everything is perfect from passing to shooting.Everything.You are definitely heading in the right direction,I love the shooting.Plz dont change it.

I played a 20 mins match France[me] vs Brazil in a 20 mins Legendary difficulty game.I won it 3-2.It was a close match and i really enjoyed it.I had to work for my goals and every time i scored i was shouting like a mad man :gavin:

The delay is nothing i could not handle but if it were reduced a little,It would be perfect.All in all this is your best patch yet.

Keep up the good work and am waiting for an updated version.Where with reducing the delay you tighten the defence even more and make the cpu more agressive.

The GK's were great.I liked it.Will play more and let you know more what could be done.

Great Work :jacko:

One thing you really could change is that NOT to update the cfg_pc_h.ini files, as not everyone wants those files to be updated, including me. This is also what is most likely causing lag.

Just go to your Fifa 07 folder and in that you will have the WE 5 advanced detail file.Just run it and change it to original fifa and the lag is gone.

NK i dont think anyone is interested in the advanced detail and i could not see much change so its better you remove it and put back the old fifa file which takes care of the lag and the complaining.

All i can say is HAIL THE KING :p

Man the latest patch is AWSOME :jacko:

I LOVE IT !!! :jacko:

Everything is perfect from passing to shooting.Everything.You are definitely heading in the right direction,I love the shooting.Plz dont change it.

I played a 20 mins match France[me] vs Brazil in a 20 mins Legendary difficulty game.I won it 3-2.It was a close match and i really enjoyed it.I had to work for my goals and every time i scored i was shouting like a mad man :gavin:

The delay is nothing i could not handle but if it were reduced a little,It would be perfect.All in all this is your best patch yet.

Keep up the good work and am waiting for an updated version.Where with reducing the delay you tighten the defence even more and make the cpu more agressive.

The GK's were great.I liked it.Will play more and let you know more what could be done.

Great Work :jacko:

Thanks man! I have a new beta ready and waiting, forget the very latest beta. I made a mistake with the AI and it went crap and easy.

here's the latest (at least I f*ckin hope so!!) click here (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8498905//1a2d8c67643a399b4235589dfed7edb37ceed6bbe6a0a62ff1 4c9906dd06f3915b4da586a6f631f5)


All this does is improve slightly upon the version you enjoyed Mr.SSJ, but also give option for noob gamers so they can enjoy the improvements but have a much greater chance since the cpu is easier to break down and figure out.

NK.

Well i played another match..20 mins legendary difficulty England[me] vs Classic 11.

They trashed me 7-1..I take back the thing i told to improve the defence and make the cpu more aggressive LOL...

Anyways i noticed these bugs while playing.

1.When i did the scissors kick,The ball went in the opposite direction rather than towards the goal.

2.The ball does some funny things like bouncing off into the air when a player recieves a ground pass and also once the ball automatically went in the air when the player was just dribbling,

So finally just make these 2 bugs alright,Reduce the Delay a bit and put in the EA details for smooth gameplay and release the perfect patch we have been waiting for :jacko:

Right, so there is this one thing I noticed that is bothering me. You know when you do the goalkick and you have to jostle into position, the opposing player falls down and a freekick is awarded. I think that happens way too much, so if you could reduce that, that would be good. Oh, and this does not happen ONLY with goalkicks. It can also happen if the ball is headed.

Well NK I like this last BETA,
I did managed to win most of the games in profesional and normal speed
but I lost and draw some with strong teams...
but there are some bugs:

1. When I`m defending sometimes my player don`t react on my commands on gamepad, when I press `down` they go `up` and similiar thing.
Not always ,but many times this happens.
They just go off to some other side :(

2.I agree with Tizmo on this he sad previosly with freekicks.

3.I scored (computer also) to many long distance goals,
like from half of court and outside the box.
I mean not like in original FIFA gameplay , but to many in my opinion.

4. Just improve midfield human and CPU a litlle ;)

5. Maybe think of slow the game down just for a bit ,
it will be perfect then.

Regards,
and keep up with great work


PS
Did you look at the FIFA 08 DEMO ,
and what do you think of Gameplay, and editing it ?

thx for the feedback guys, great stuff. i am making changes now to improve all the area's mentioned.

The shot bug is now ironed out. this was due to max shot error angle, which was too much for the type of shot [slide] that caused the game to hit the ball backwards! I tried it out and the bug was clear, so it's gone :)

I have reduced defensive delay slightly for max delay, so it's slightly quicker to respond, but this is key to difficulty so it won't be reduced so the game becomes easy. I know SSJ can handle it, so can I...just takes a little getting used to :)

Ball physics bounce tuned slightly along with CPU/AI defence slightly quicker to take away passing options and ball control from player. The game is harder to break through. Yes, even harder! But it keep you addicted to trying.

All changes will be put into Noob gameplay for those who may struggle.

NK.

Great news NK,
forgot to tell one more thing

When passing with my players ,it happens that ball go slow and player who is waiting for ball is just standing ,even if I try to move him ,I never managed to.
I mean this is stupid thing of original fifa gameplay, not your mistake,
but can you fix this to look more realistic.
It just look silly and stupid......

Ether the player must come to the ball or ball must go litlle faster.

Even more stupid is that all the time CPU is just looking on that slow ball ,and doing nothing....:(

It`s like all world stops when this happens;)

Finally got back long enough to test the gameplay... this is freaking sweet. I'm playing against Millwall right now as Chelsea, and I'm up 3-0 in the first half with my second 11. That should happen.

Also, I can see the ball control difference in the quality of the squads. I can pass the ball forward to back with no problem, but I can also take it from them really easily.

And I agree that I would rather have a realistic feeling, challenging gameplay than an easy one. I don't want to feel as if I can win every match regardless of who I'm playing with or against. I want to feel that I can lose to Liverpool at Anfield and I feel like that right now.

Hi.
I have played a couple of makes with the new beta and it is quite good but i still prefer much more the previous version. (underground).
For me the underground is almost perfect.
About the new beta i think that the ball physics looks a little bit unrealistic.I prefer much more the physics of underground.
The speed of underground version was much better. I think you should slower the game a litlle bit more because it makes the game much more tactical and harder to break.

I have seen the bug the dule talks about wrong directions. For example, when I press the right arrow (i play on keyboard) to aim the shoot sometimes the ball goes to the left of the goal.

And i think the CPU should be a little more agressive in the attack.

PS: I play in professional level, 8 minutes games.

Goals kick distance is still not as far as the GK throw kicks and it hardly cross over the centre half. I still prefer the beta just after "underground" as the GK goal kick distance is very realistic.

Can anyone please help and tell me how to install? i think i have installed but i dont see no difference :/ much appreciated

Goals kick distance is still not as far as the GK throw kicks and it hardly cross over the centre half. I still prefer the beta just after "underground" as the GK goal kick distance is very realistic.

Dude have you installed the patch properly?Cause the Goal kicks go way into the opponent's half.If it goes more,It would become un-realistic.

To NK,What do you mean by Max Delay?I thought you reduced it a bit so how can it be Max Delay :crazyboy:

Can anyone please help and tell me how to install? i think i have installed but i dont see no difference :/ much appreciated

Its very easy.Just install it in your Fifa 07 directory :shades:

Ok since there is a lot of disagreements about goal kicks, why don't just watch today's football game and see how far the goal kicks can be.

I had a great 20 mins legendary difficulty match against World 11..I was France.

I won it 6-5.

The ball did lot of non-senseical things which really made me mad.So plz make that alright NK.

When are you planning to release the updated version based on our latest feed-back?

I found that every game, im able to thrash the cpu real hard. Just finish an away game wthe Ajax and Real Madrid (Me), Im able to thrash the cpu real hard with lost of goals. I played a 4 mins game. Earlier against AC Milan and Inter, i thrashed both of them during half time and i quit the game as a result.

I find that the problem is, the cpu really attack hard but once they are back to defence, they don't have time to bring their players back. They only have 3 players defending aganst 5 attackers and it took quite a long time before the cpu can bring their players back to defend. Please look into that NK.

I found that every game, im able to thrash the cpu real hard. Just finish an away game wthe Ajax and Real Madrid (Me), Im able to thrash the cpu real hard with lost of goals. I played a 4 mins game. Earlier against AC Milan and Inter, i thrashed both of them during half time and i quit the game as a result.

I find that the problem is, the cpu really attack hard but once they are back to defence, they don't have time to bring their players back. They only have 3 players defending aganst 5 attackers and it took quite a long time before the cpu can bring their players back to defend. Please look into that NK.

What difficulty are you playing on buddy?

Cause i play only on legendary and only against top teams and i dont face such problems.

Hmmm the next update will improve on the defence and attack AND ball physics. I'll stick to that. Guaranteed.

I would certainly play a created tournament on legendary with a group phase and knockout and see how far you get. I doubt on first try you will win the cup.

NK.

I've increased the aggression of cpu towards players'. I have made the shot mechanic more variable in terms of accuracy and power. You never quite know where you shot will go, but logically. This will be tuned up and play similar to what you are already playing, but bug free e.g. scissor kick bug is now gone.

They'll be more variation in defence and attack of cpu and the cpu players' will cover your dribbler better decreasing your chances of breaking through easily.

Back to cpu player aggression. an example of this was before when I broke through on the beta you guys are playing, I could be say near the mid-half of the field and get a killer chance and run the space and score. Great goal, worked for. However, the cpu had now aggression, no emergence. after tuning it up a similar situation came along, broke through and WHAM cpu defender hacks me down and RED CARDED! Last man, sent off. Those are the rules, ref was strict and he had to go. Sadly I didn't score. I eventually quit the game to come and post here to you wonderful lot!

Ball physics are improving, more dynamics. You get a feeling that when you strike the ball, there's more going on. I like that feeling!

ok, will get a beta out soon.

NK.

Sounds real interesting.Cant wait to test it out.

Just played a few games with project beta version of the gameplay and think it's great. Lots of variety in the CPU attacks and sufficient CPU pressure to make it really hard to create clear scoring opportunities. Glad to see a significant reduction in the number of goals deflected into the net by the goalies.
BTW I have no problem with the distance achieved on keeper kickouts, as surely this is determined by the kicking attributes of the particular goalie doing the kicking ?

Just played a few games with project beta version of the gameplay and think it's great. Lots of variety in the CPU attacks and sufficient CPU pressure to make it really hard to create clear scoring opportunities. Glad to see a significant reduction in the number of goals deflected into the net by the goalies.
BTW I have no problem with the distance achieved on keeper kickouts, as surely this is determined by the kicking attributes of the particular goalie doing the kicking ?

Thank you very much for the feedback. And yes you are right, attributes factor the distance. Also, standing closer to the goal line will see it stay more into your half, while going upto the edge of the box will send it further into the opp' half. I will increase the GK kicks however, but not by too much or you'll end up scoring right from a kick too often.

I have re-tuned the CPU defences for ultimate midfield battles. Both user and cpu defences are much better and cpu and user must work HARDER to achieve chances and score goals. I think you guys will love it.

I'm getting depressed that 08 is out soon and I am close to a break-through here. These values are new and couldn't have been done any sooner, it's a shame it takes this long to tune up the gameplay!

Lets just say, if you think creating chances is difficult now, you ain't played nothing yet.

cheers,
NK.

ok, i took on your feedback and made changes.

Try it out. Please I warn you now the NOOB option is not in this beta. So anyone not very good at the game will get "bummed" as the term I use cause am English! lol.

I've slowed down the cpu close downs, this makes the game better if you are up against a naff team, so you can totally dominate and CONTROL the game which is lots of fun as it's totally different against the best teams.

LINK TAKEN DOWN, BE BACK SOON

NK.

is the beta version released?

Hey there guys, first up sorry for the delay and taking the beta down yesterday. This was for editing reasons.

Your feedback was pushed into the development of this beta in order to create the most tactical and rewarding experience possible from this game. Of course, there's room for tuning. But the base of this beta is the best I believe I've done.

I will add in a noob setting in the final release come Friday. This will give you guys plenty of time to get used to this beta, as it plays more tactical and feels more like football.

beta tactical training (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8527513//2c892f85530a2e663974e8359974484a6fc74e44b5c7b6df9c 2aa2e0e3cfaa9bef706d9cbbb540f4)

You'll notice a certain request regarding goalkicks didn't go un-noticed. :)

Cheers,
NK.

NK this is what I have to say for this last beta :clapwap:
I played 2 games with Serbia NT, against Croatia 2:2 ( I won on penalties:))
and against Portugal where I lost 0:1 (I hope tomorow in real life Serbia will win with some miracle from haven :$)

+
1.Speed of the game is just perfect now ( I play on normal speed)
who don`t like it can always speed it up or slow it down in menu options.
I think it`s best we can have in fifa ;)
No more super pinball football game (6)

2.Shooting is great now,
no more unrealistic missing shots.

3.Passing is very good,
no more are players waiting for ball to come to him and CPU just wachting this ...that was idiotic.
NOW THIS IS FIXED. (I played 2 games and didn`t saw this bug)

-
1.I play on gamepad, and you know when i`m defending I press shooting button, and that is like pressing on opossite player with ball, and I can take him the ball without making foul. I control my player normaly.
In this new BETA , when I try to make pressing (shooting button) and control my player, he just don`t listen to my command. I press `down` he runs `up` ,and similar (but only if I press my shooting button)
Check it out for your self ;)
I would like this to be fixed in final version

2.You can also check the `advantage`
It was foul on my player, oposition takes the ball ,while the judge says it was advantage. But game continues....
I was in front of goal and with chance to score in 90 minute :(
I lost the game 0:1 :(
This is first time I saw this (maybe you make it that way ?)

Dude the first negative what you have posted was purposely done to make the game realistic.Its called the delay system.So you just cant keep holding the tackle button and run towards an opponent in a hope to steal the ball.You should use pace control and slow down and time your tackle right to win the ball.

I have not played the beta yet but my feed-back will come soon.

Cheers :junior:

Dude the first negative what you have posted was purposely done to make the game realistic.Its called the delay system.So you just cant keep holding the tackle button and run towards an opponent in a hope to steal the ball.You should use pace control and slow down and time your tackle right to win the ball.

I have not played the beta yet but my feed-back will come soon.

Cheers :junior:


Yes mate I know about this,
but controls can not be diferent.
Delay is OK , but when I press DOWN player can NOT go UP
and that is a fact. (I also press RIGHT and player go DOWN, and similar)

I hope you understand what I mean...

PS
I don`t want to take the ball just pressing one button (tackle)

Yes mate I know about this,
but controls can not be diferent.
Delay is OK , but when I press DOWN player can NOT go UP
and that is a fact. (I also press RIGHT and player go DOWN, and similar)

I hope you understand what I mean...

PS
I don`t want to take the ball just pressing one button (tackle)

if your player is sent the wrong way, use the auto-tackle and don't press anything, just attempt to 'bump' the cpu off the ball. This works well when you need it.

I am yet to notice this control problem and I have tested it for a long time, I will look into this.

NK.

can anyone please tell me where can i find the controls(file) in my fifa07 folder?

There isn't one. You have to edit the devdata file in your My Documents / FIFA 07 directory. There's a website you can go to in order to generate the file, but I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link here.

There isn't one. You have to edit the devdata file in your My Documents / FIFA 07 directory. There's a website you can go to in order to generate the file, but I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link here.

please mail me.my email ID is h.mehta@iitg.ernet.in

Well... that site is down...

Here's my Feed-Back.

Dude i am very disappointed.

I played a 20 mins match in legendary difficulty, France[me] vs Classic 11.

I won it 6-3.

The cpu and my AI was so dumb...I could not believe it.

The cpu attack and defence did not have any sting to it.

There was no pressure or tight marking from the cpu and the attack's were so easy to stop and stealing the ball was like taking a candy from a baby.

They made so many dumb moves giving away balls in scoring positions and taking stupid and useless long shots and also dribbling the ball beyond the line for no reason and giving away a throw in to me.

Overall i was very very disappointed.You may ask how they scored the 3 golas?All cheap goals.Weak headers from the edge of the penalty box.They got 2 goals that way.I cant believe my keeper could not save it.I was surprised as i thought you had taken care of this problem.Third goal was an unrealistic goal.A pass made and the cpu shot while turning into the left corner without touching the ball from outside the penalty box.I thought you had also taken care of this problem.

N to top it off so much of lag in the game.You have got to rectify this problem.The only thing i was happy was with the shooting.Rest everything needs to be reworked.The previous patch was so good,I dont understand what happened to you with this one.

I felt that this patch was ment for Noobs :mrpimp:

Hope this will help you a lot to make improvements in the next beta,

Hmm me too have this high scoring. In MY opinion at the latest beta, here is some reasons of the high scoring game.

1. I felt that even when there are times when the cpu mark the players well, the cpu defends have no match in terms of speed with the attackers, and we can pass through the defence easily.

2. The cpu also have weak tacklings which can't steal the possesion away from me, which also allows us to pass though the defenders easily.

3. Sometimes, the cpu are too busy marking other players and they ALMOST forgot about the player coming in dangerously with possesion. (This is a funny one LOL!!!)

4. CPU shootings are inaccurate as they often shoot the ball far off target. How do they score goals like this><

Hope other players will have the same opinion with me.:)

The beta that you posted before you took the link down is a LOT better.

Here's my Feed-Back.

Dude i am very disappointed.

I played a 20 mins match in legendary difficulty, France[me] vs Classic 11.

I won it 6-3.

The cpu and my AI was so dumb...I could not believe it.

The cpu attack and defence did not have any sting to it.

There was no pressure or tight marking from the cpu and the attack's were so easy to stop and stealing the ball was like taking a candy from a baby.

They made so many dumb moves giving away balls in scoring positions and taking stupid and useless long shots and also dribbling the ball beyond the line for no reason and giving away a throw in to me.

Overall i was very very disappointed.You may ask how they scored the 3 golas?All cheap goals.Weak headers from the edge of the penalty box.They got 2 goals that way.I cant believe my keeper could not save it.I was surprised as i thought you had taken care of this problem.Third goal was an unrealistic goal.A pass made and the cpu shot while turning into the left corner without touching the ball from outside the penalty box.I thought you had also taken care of this problem.

N to top it off so much of lag in the game.You have got to rectify this problem.The only thing i was happy was with the shooting.Rest everything needs to be reworked.The previous patch was so good,I dont understand what happened to you with this one.

I felt that this patch was ment for Noobs :mrpimp:

Hope this will help you a lot to make improvements in the next beta,


I won't reply just yet, the results you got are exactly what I wanted. Yes, I am a mad scientist!

What this feedback allows is for me to progress forward with the beta that played the best. You will see many changes in the next beta, especially leading towards the release of World Evolution 2008 this Friday. :)

Thanks mate and keep you the awesome feedback.

edit: OH yes and weak header goals will vanish, since scoring with them will be harder and more will go wide or easily saved.

NK.

The beta that you posted before you took the link down is a LOT better.



Aar my friend, you made my point EXACTLY! The beta I took down was too similar to the one most enjoyed. I wanted to contrast it and bullsh!t a few words out in order to make sure people came down harder with feedback so I can eradicate the values that don't work. This stops the update from going round in circles.

Thanks for the feedback, I know my ways are a little daft, but this is the best way.

NK.

the shooting will now be based not on how many shots you have for success rate, but the TYPE of chance you create to determine how composed and accurate your shot will be. e.g. taking shots outside the box will require better strikers.

NK.

Oh, btw when making the updtes, would it be possible for you not to update graphics files, as I don't always want to replace the files with my graphics files.

You got us NK ;)

I like it :junior:

Just to show you how easy it was i trashed brazil 8-3..Could have scored 10 but let it be ;)
This time though the lag was less compared to the first match that i played so in the final release plz take care of the lag.

Will be waiting anxiously for the latest release and be sure of Awsome Feed-Backs from me ;)

You got us NK ;)

I like it :junior:

Just to show you how easy it was i trashed brazil 8-3..Could have scored 10 but let it be ;)
This time though the lag was less compared to the first match that i played so in the final release plz take care of the lag.

Will be waiting anxiously for the latest release and be sure of Awsome Feed-Backs from me ;)

World Evolution 2008 will play the way you expect it to. The cpu will be much better in defence and attack, the shot mechanic will be a bit more tricky in tight situation and close/quick shots.

It'll be released on Friday here for you guys.

NK.

Official WE2008 BETA click here to download (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8538200//b13e0a2a19fcc5064f7f1cb92f53332a726e27c5dde14f0cd8 b77ef5341d9b6fe08badf671434120)

And yes guys this is the real deal. Pay attention to the shot mechanic, I have scored my best goal ever using this mechanic with Michael Owen, the most perfect top corner shot. I will upload the replay for you soon. It was in my created tourni against denmark, got the ball outside the area and smacked it. the keeper had no chance as he desperately tried to keep it out. Amazing goal.

NK.

To be honest the latest updates are rubbish even though they're betas, the last one being the worst. If you don't want to seriously make good game play patches anymore why didn't you just say so instead of making fun of us wasting our time. You see, I knew it will come to this. I'm referring to you getting bored just like we did waiting for an at least decent product from you which eventually didn't come out although we gave you feedback for a whole year. A whole year for what?You can count me out from now on. It's useless. Have fun making 30 other different game play patches for FIFA 08 just like 07 and none of them good.

Cool..I just installed the previous beta to keep me occupied till friday and i come here,Wallah...A new patch to test.Feed-back will come by tomorrow.

To be honest the latest updates are rubbish even though they're betas, the last one being the worst. If you don't want to seriously make good game play patches anymore why didn't you just say so instead of making fun of us wasting our time. You see, I knew it will come to this. I'm referring to you getting bored just like we did waiting for an at least decent product from you which eventually didn't come out although we gave you feedback for a whole year. A whole year for what?You can count me out from now on. It's useless. Have fun making 30 other different game play patches for FIFA 08 just like 07 and none of them good.

Aint you being Harsh???

N are you talking about the latest WE 2008 BETA PATCH which was just released???

The patch before the last patch with the option to choose between noobs and advanced was the best patch yet made by NK and all of us here except you agrees on that.

Define "best patch". By best patch do you mean:

-human goalkeeper is stupid and knocks the ball in the goal when he tries to stop a short and the CPU keeper in exchange has super human reflexes ? Like you shoot from 2 meters with max power and the keeper saves it ?
-CPU players win 80% of header and have an incredible reach when they intercept a pass or on a 1vs1 situation.
-a CPU player with sprint speed of 70 is at least as fast as Thierry Henry ?
- Freekicks go 2 meters over the goal even if you power up 5% ?
- human players that are completely unmarked and directly in front of goal shoot 2-3 meters wide or over even at 20% power up.
- Almost every CPU free kick is a goal
- Crosses are useless because CPU players close down the passing lanes or get in front of the receiver with lightning speed ?
- CPU players mark everywhere on the field every player although they shouldn't mark that much and that good.
- The CPU deffence is made of 8 players (4 defenders and 4 midfielders)
- Pace Control useless.
- CPU players are rock solid on they feet so the human players are little children.
- Dribblings are almost useless because if you succesfully do a dribble and get past a cpu player that cpu player pushed you aside and a second and third cpu players come and picks up the ball.
- at least 3 players chasing the human player with the ball
- When you try and tackle a CPU player you spin around him or push him and cause a stupid foul.
- High through balls go way ahead of the receiver
- human players stand like dummies waiting for the ball but they wait so long that the CPU player comes with lightning speed an take it away.
- and many many more which i'm tired to write because there are a lot of them and let me just say that right now I'm like a bomb waiting to explode because of nerves and anger (don't know why, maybe because I see no reason in playing FIFA anymore which is my fav game btw) because I have came to the conclusion that NK is laughing at us wasting our time or he's mentally retarded which I highly doubt it and this is because what i wrote earlier are things that you people and especially NK should of noticed. These are not game play patches people. These are... I don't even know the word for it. So anyway, I feel when I'm playing FIFA now with these patches that the CPU is making fun of me, taunting me, bulling me etc. like it's saying to me "Hehe, Hihi youre an idiot, give up it's useless we're gonna trash you, you have no chance" and things like that. I know what you're thinking and that is that i've gone nuts but maybe I did cause I can't stand it anymore. FIFA is a GAME and we're supposed to enjoy it, not make you wanna smash your 19inch wide LG LCD (Cause many times I was almost to that point). And what I really don't get is how can you play FIFA with these updates ? Are you not humans ? You're robots who only want to try and beat certain teams like challenges and such ? Maybe that's why NK is making these updates so "hard" (and I put the "" because in stead of hard it's stupid, a game should not be made hard by making it no fair) because of you people. Well guess what. It's a game, not reality that's why the CPU isn't so smart to beat you like you can beat it and just because of this it dosen't mean you have to make it able to beat you because it will beat you by making you have certain handicaps. Anyway wtf I am keep saying, I'm talking for nothing anyway cause nobody listens to me, everybody says i'm crazy. So anyway you get the point. And I repeat, i'm out of this. Count me out. I can't stand it anymore and i'm still young, i don't have to shorten my life by getting mad for nothing. Bye all

Define "best patch". By best patch do you mean:

-human goalkeeper is stupid and knocks the ball in the goal when he tries to stop a short and the CPU keeper in exchange has super human reflexes ? Like you shoot from 2 meters with max power and the keeper saves it ?
-CPU players win 80% of header and have an incredible reach when they intercept a pass or on a 1vs1 situation.
-a CPU player with sprint speed of 70 is at least as fast as Thierry Henry ?
- Freekicks go 2 meters over the goal even if you power up 5% ?
- human players that are completely unmarked and directly in front of goal shoot 2-3 meters wide or over even at 20% power up.
- Almost every CPU free kick is a goal
- Crosses are useless because CPU players close down the passing lanes or get in front of the receiver with lightning speed ?
- CPU players mark everywhere on the field every player although they shouldn't mark that much and that good.
- The CPU deffence is made of 8 players (4 defenders and 4 midfielders)
- Pace Control useless.
- CPU players are rock solid on they feet so the human players are little children.
- Dribblings are almost useless because if you succesfully do a dribble and get past a cpu player that cpu player pushed you aside and a second and third cpu players come and picks up the ball.
- at least 3 players chasing the human player with the ball
- When you try and tackle a CPU player you spin around him or push him and cause a stupid foul.
- High through balls go way ahead of the receiver
- human players stand like dummies waiting for the ball but they wait so long that the CPU player comes with lightning speed an take it away.
- and many many more which i'm tired to write because there are a lot of them and let me just say that right now I'm like a bomb waiting to explode because of nerves and anger (don't know why, maybe because I see no reason in playing FIFA anymore which is my fav game btw) because I have came to the conclusion that NK is laughing at us wasting our time or he's mentally retarded which I highly doubt it and this is because what i wrote earlier are things that you people and especially NK should of noticed. These are not game play patches people. These are... I don't even know the word for it. So anyway, I feel when I'm playing FIFA now with these patches that the CPU is making fun of me, taunting me, bulling me etc. like it's saying to me "Hehe, Hihi youre an idiot, give up it's useless we're gonna trash you, you have no chance" and things like that. I know what you're thinking and that is that i've gone nuts but maybe I did cause I can't stand it anymore. FIFA is a GAME and we're supposed to enjoy it, not make you wanna smash your 19inch wide LG LCD (Cause many times I was almost to that point). And what I really don't get is how can you play FIFA with these updates ? Are you not humans ? You're robots who only want to try and beat certain teams like challenges and such ? Maybe that's why NK is making these updates so "hard" (and I put the "" because in stead of hard it's stupid, a game should not be made hard by making it no fair) because of you people. Well guess what. It's a game, not reality that's why the CPU isn't so smart to beat you like you can beat it and just because of this it dosen't mean you have to make it able to beat you because it will beat you by making you have certain handicaps. Anyway wtf I am keep saying, I'm talking for nothing anyway cause nobody listens to me, everybody says i'm crazy. So anyway you get the point. And I repeat, i'm out of this. Count me out. I can't stand it anymore and i'm still young, i don't have to shorten my life by getting mad for nothing. Bye all

I think you need to calm down. This is only a game and the beta released was for advanced gamers. You clearly are not one of them.

Do you use man-marking, appropriate tactics and formations? Do you use team mentality and pace-control in the right places where it is advised to be used? I have no problem using pace-control to my advantage.

You come here making claims that these update I do for you are rubbish. That is rude, and you are arrogant in your words, in such you speak of facts when all you do is spout out opinions, with yes...LOGICAL reason, but you did not just play a beginner version of WE2008 BETA, you played the advanced. You are not an advanced gamer, that is obvious. WE2008 takes out many exploits, which means scoring is rewarding and a challenge.

The original EA gameplay is a CPU advantage throughout each increasing difficulty level. I am doing nothing different. Your argument is with EA SPORTS not me, so show some gratitude for my time I spend on this game. I don't do it for someone to be rude. If you have feedback, at least have the courtesy to be polite. Constructive feedback goes a lot further that loud mouthing like an e-thug.

I have read some of your past feedback. You claim WE5 was good on professional level because you were up 2-0 at half time, yet World Class was rubbish because you were down 1-0 at half time. I'm sorry but the score-line does not reflect how good an update is and neither does the difficulty level. The difficulty level reflects on how good the PLAYER is and you clearly aren't good enough for World Class, which I think hurts your ego. Be honest, it annoys you that Professional level is too challenging, yet you won't move down to semi-pro or amateur because that will make you feel like less of a man. That's not the way to give feedback!

Do me a favour and get better, so next time you play you don't feel the urge to come in here and give your very rude feedback!

:ewan:

Nick.

p.s. You're right they're not gameplay patches, they're gameplay UPDATES. I patch nothing, I update the play for gamers who are too good for the original EA gameplay. I suggest you play EA's Legendary difficulty until you beat it without having to think. That keyboard will do you no favours either, this isn't FIFA 99.

To be honest the latest updates are rubbish even though they're betas, the last one being the worst. If you don't want to seriously make good game play patches anymore why didn't you just say so instead of making fun of us wasting our time. You see, I knew it will come to this. I'm referring to you getting bored just like we did waiting for an at least decent product from you which eventually didn't come out although we gave you feedback for a whole year. A whole year for what?You can count me out from now on. It's useless. Have fun making 30 other different game play patches for FIFA 08 just like 07 and none of them good.

Sorry for wasting your time, I didn't realise I was making an update for you.

wake up jackas$ there's only you complaining in such a rude way! Hint hint. Go learn how to play.

Bye!!!

Define "best patch". By best patch do you mean:

-human goalkeeper is stupid and knocks the ball in the goal when he tries to stop a short and the CPU keeper in exchange has super human reflexes ? Like you shoot from 2 meters with max power and the keeper saves it ?
-CPU players win 80% of header and have an incredible reach when they intercept a pass or on a 1vs1 situation.
-a CPU player with sprint speed of 70 is at least as fast as Thierry Henry ?
- Freekicks go 2 meters over the goal even if you power up 5% ?
- human players that are completely unmarked and directly in front of goal shoot 2-3 meters wide or over even at 20% power up.
- Almost every CPU free kick is a goal
- Crosses are useless because CPU players close down the passing lanes or get in front of the receiver with lightning speed ?
- CPU players mark everywhere on the field every player although they shouldn't mark that much and that good.
- The CPU deffence is made of 8 players (4 defenders and 4 midfielders)
- Pace Control useless.
- CPU players are rock solid on they feet so the human players are little children.
- Dribblings are almost useless because if you succesfully do a dribble and get past a cpu player that cpu player pushed you aside and a second and third cpu players come and picks up the ball.
- at least 3 players chasing the human player with the ball
- When you try and tackle a CPU player you spin around him or push him and cause a stupid foul.
- High through balls go way ahead of the receiver
- human players stand like dummies waiting for the ball but they wait so long that the CPU player comes with lightning speed an take it away.
- and many many more which i'm tired to write because there are a lot of them and let me just say that right now I'm like a bomb waiting to explode because of nerves and anger (don't know why, maybe because I see no reason in playing FIFA anymore which is my fav game btw) because I have came to the conclusion that NK is laughing at us wasting our time or he's mentally retarded which I highly doubt it and this is because what i wrote earlier are things that you people and especially NK should of noticed. These are not game play patches people. These are... I don't even know the word for it. So anyway, I feel when I'm playing FIFA now with these patches that the CPU is making fun of me, taunting me, bulling me etc. like it's saying to me "Hehe, Hihi youre an idiot, give up it's useless we're gonna trash you, you have no chance" and things like that. I know what you're thinking and that is that i've gone nuts but maybe I did cause I can't stand it anymore. FIFA is a GAME and we're supposed to enjoy it, not make you wanna smash your 19inch wide LG LCD (Cause many times I was almost to that point). And what I really don't get is how can you play FIFA with these updates ? Are you not humans ? You're robots who only want to try and beat certain teams like challenges and such ? Maybe that's why NK is making these updates so "hard" (and I put the "" because in stead of hard it's stupid, a game should not be made hard by making it no fair) because of you people. Well guess what. It's a game, not reality that's why the CPU isn't so smart to beat you like you can beat it and just because of this it dosen't mean you have to make it able to beat you because it will beat you by making you have certain handicaps. Anyway wtf I am keep saying, I'm talking for nothing anyway cause nobody listens to me, everybody says i'm crazy. So anyway you get the point. And I repeat, i'm out of this. Count me out. I can't stand it anymore and i'm still young, i don't have to shorten my life by getting mad for nothing. Bye all

No... I don't want immense incredibly hard challenges. I want realism. I want to turn on the game and wonder if I'm watching a game or a real match. I want to feel as if I can lose, even though I'm playing as Chelsea, against anyone, especially better teams. But I also want to feel is if I play the way that real football dictates, then I will do well.

By my observations, you are one of the few people giving feedback who are playing at a level below World Class or even Professional. The majority of the hardcore players play above that. I don't want to play Man U and score 15 goals in 10 secs or feel like I can dictate the game whenever I stop screwing around. But I don't want them to score at will on me either.

Turn up the difficulty and you may see a different game.

Aar my friend, you made my point EXACTLY! The beta I took down was too similar to the one most enjoyed. I wanted to contrast it and bullsh!t a few words out in order to make sure people came down harder with feedback so I can eradicate the values that don't work. This stops the update from going round in circles.

Thanks for the feedback, I know my ways are a little daft, but this is the best way.

NK.

And to NK... I give... you got us. I thought that beta played a bit funny and I didn't think you'd take a step backward without a good reason. Looking forward to playing this current beta more intently after I get back from work. It looks good so far.

All I wanted was to be able to play fifa and enjoy it. I don't want to play FIFA so I can complete challenges by beating teams at different difficulty levels like "Hey ssj4karan, I released a very hard game play; do you accept the challenge to succeed in beating a team? ssj4karan: Hell yeah. I just won 9-0 on Legendary against a big team. I want it harder!; Ok I'll release an even harder one etc." That's what hardcore players do like ssj4karan. I want to be able to at least put 2-3 passes one after another without the fear of 5 CPU players surrounding me once I get the ball so I can feel rewarded when I'm able to pull off a good realistic and rewarding build-up. I want to be able to take advantage of some players like Messi and Ronaldinho with they're abbilities so I can feel rewarded when I dribble a defender, but ATM Ronaldinho's a nobody who every defender with a rating of 60 gets the ball of him and reads his mind at every pass. My style of play is passing around to make constructive plays like realistic plays, but hardcore players only pass it forward all the time and do endless through balls to score score score taking advantage of FIFA's exploits/faults. No wonder they have 5-5 6-3 8-6 scores. You seem to make hard game play nowadays not realistic ones and that's what I want. Is that really too much to ask and most of all understand? And even if I win every time I don't care because I want to have fun, enjoy myself.

And BTW I play at lower difficulty levels because I'm searching for realism in these lower difficulty levels because (I hope) the CPU is at a level of difficulty similar to the realistic one. I don't want ping pong matches at WC or Pro.

And I'm not saying I want you to make me a game play cause I'm just an ordinary individual playing FIFA the computer game, i just tried and explained to you what i expected/wanted because I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants at least a bit of what I want and one of those people is SportzNut23 as you can see from his lower reply.

Hey NK i can say the latest beta is the best beta you had made. The only bug i find is the bicycle kick where the player kicks the ball but headed to the opposite direction. Please fix that!!!

Hey NK i can say the latest beta is the best beta you had made. The only bug i find is the bicycle kick where the player kicks the ball but headed to the opposite direction. Please fix that!!!

Thanks mate and yes LOL you are right! That type of shot goes off on one, thanks for pointing out this bug, I will fix it. :)

I'm making GK kicks go even further now too. It's quite fun kicking it almost near the opp's box. It's still very hard to win the ball though so no easy quick goals.

Thanks again,

NK.

Uf NK.....
I`m just dissapionted how the game speed is in this new BETA :(
You speed it up again , and push it to super speed,
I have head-pains when watching ball go left and right...
(Like Pinball-football)
I HOPE YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN LIKE IN PREVIOUS BETA !

Shooting can also be fixed a litlle, as scoring the goal is much much harder for human
,CPU is scoring good.

And CPU realy wins 80% of headers :(
Or ball just bouns of my player right into CPU legs....

There are to many nonsence fouls for CPU, maybe you can check it out also.


PS
I played PRO on normal speed.

The update is going to be sent out now for final testing. It will then be decided whether to release it tomorrow or on Friday. Not long to wait.

An 'easy' option will be available with WE2008 giving gamers a chance to humilate the CPU and not feel under threat too often. This option will be for gamers who love to win, win, win and still conceive a number of goals to give them a thrill.

Thanks guys and my apologies for my out-burst earlier. I started feeling the community pressure as demands get higher, it's difficult raising the bar at times when you have feedback from two sides of the spectrum. :)

Peace,
NK.

All I wanted was to be able to play fifa and enjoy it. I don't want to play FIFA so I can complete challenges by beating teams at different difficulty levels like "Hey ssj4karan, I released a very hard game play; do you accept the challenge to succeed in beating a team? ssj4karan: Hell yeah. I just won 9-0 on Legendary against a big team. I want it harder!; Ok I'll release an even harder one etc." That's what hardcore players do like ssj4karan. I want to be able to at least put 2-3 passes one after another without the fear of 5 CPU players surrounding me once I get the ball so I can feel rewarded when I'm able to pull off a good realistic and rewarding build-up. I want to be able to take advantage of some players like Messi and Ronaldinho with they're abbilities so I can feel rewarded when I dribble a defender, but ATM Ronaldinho's a nobody who every defender with a rating of 60 gets the ball of him and reads his mind at every pass. My style of play is passing around to make constructive plays like realistic plays, but hardcore players only pass it forward all the time and do endless through balls to score score score taking advantage of FIFA's exploits/faults. No wonder they have 5-5 6-3 8-6 scores. You seem to make hard game play nowadays not realistic ones and that's what I want. Is that really too much to ask and most of all understand? And even if I win every time I don't care because I want to have fun, enjoy myself.

And BTW I play at lower difficulty levels because I'm searching for realism in these lower difficulty levels because (I hope) the CPU is at a level of difficulty similar to the realistic one. I don't want ping pong matches at WC or Pro.

And I'm not saying I want you to make me a game play cause I'm just an ordinary individual playing FIFA the computer game, i just tried and explained to you what i expected/wanted because I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants at least a bit of what I want and one of those people is SportzNut23 as you can see from his lower reply.

Dude all i can say is get better at the game..You still dont know how or whom to pass at the right time...Most of your complaints are because you are not very good and thats a fact.Nk cant make a patch specially for one person..If he makes a exclusive patch for me,All you people will be crying...So just play it and try to master it..The patches are getting realistic all the time and you should also think about improving you skill and evolve and try out new tactics.

Hi,

Here's my feedback on WE2008 BETA:

I played France Vs Classic 11 in legendary difficulty 20 mins match.

I won it 3-0.

It was good but you have to work on these area's.

The defence was very good...They marked well and tackled well but i feel this can be taken to the next level by you NK :mrpimp:

The attack was poor...This is a place where you need to put some serious effort.No sting in their attack and they were wasting chances by taking some stupid long shots...You have got to take care of this area.

The ball physics also needs to be worked upon as sometimes it did not look clear as to what was happening with the ball..It did some funny things now and then.

The GK's are good but can be improved..They still deflect ball hit straight to them into the goal..Not like before but still do and most of their deflections hit the post instead of going out..So you can make this better and also improve the GK's.

The shot mechanic was a bit hard but it was nothing i could not handle..But i still prefer the previous shot mechanic.In this the angle shots and finesse shots go 60% wide even without pressure,So it will be better if you could do something about this area.

Well i guess that's it and hope it helps you to improve your updates.

Will be waiting to see the changes in the next Release (H)

Cheers :) :bob: :fluffy:

Uf NK.....
I`m just dissapionted how the game speed is in this new BETA :(
You speed it up again , and push it to super speed,
I have head-pains when watching ball go left and right...
(Like Pinball-football)
I HOPE YOU CAN SLOW IT DOWN LIKE IN PREVIOUS BETA !

Shooting can also be fixed a litlle, as scoring the goal is much much harder for human
,CPU is scoring good.

And CPU realy wins 80% of headers :(
Or ball just bouns of my player right into CPU legs....

There are to many nonsence fouls for CPU, maybe you can check it out also.


PS
I played PRO on normal speed.

1.Dude i dont mind the speed cause i play it on fast..I feel uncomfortable playing it on normal but i agree reducing the speed a little will help it make better :p

2.Shooting is hard i agree but you can score and i have not seen the cpu find it easy to score either and i play on legendary..They take too many un-wanted long shots and i want this area to be better and like you even i prefer the previous shot mechanics but with the bugs i mentioned earlier removed.

3.I dont find the CPU winning 80% of the headers.I win it more than them and previously there were fouls given for this but now no fouls like it should be and i like it :p

4.I think the fouling system was improved as less un wanted fouls were given..Will play more and confirm on this point.

One thing that needs to fixed is still the problem of unwanted freekicks. I did not even foul the CPU and the CPU fell down by himself and a freekick was given for them. Really annoying...

One thing that needs to fixed is still the problem of unwanted freekicks. I did not even foul the CPU and the CPU fell down by himself and a freekick was given for them. Really annoying...

Yes I got this many many times...annoying realy...

One thing that needs to fixed is still the problem of unwanted freekicks. I did not even foul the CPU and the CPU fell down by himself and a freekick was given for them. Really annoying...

Surprisingly i did not get many of this..Usually i complain about this but with WE2008 it did not happen much to me..I'll play more and confirm this :)

I've been playing FIFA for 5 freakin' years and I also play excellent outside football so this leaves me no choice as to upload a 16minute match video of how I play to show you just what my problem is and you can judge the video too. Pff... Not good at the game...be serious !

I've been playing FIFA for 5 freakin' years and I also play excellent outside football so this leaves me no choice as to upload a 16minute match video of how I play to show you just what my problem is and you can judge the video too. Pff... Not good at the game...be serious !

If you were good,You should not have problems with anything and must be able to handle the realistic changes.

ive been playing fifa sinec fifa '98.. ive been playing normal football since i was 6.. i have no problem with the new patch, it actually makes the game more funner and realistic... you shouldnt have any problems..

Yes it`s more harder, but also better and more realistic :)

Just NK need to make some serious updates and fixes...
but I`m sure he will ...;)

PS
Super hi gameplay speed have most negative points from me :(
Most of the other stuf I like very much ...

i think there are some pro players.so,pros can you give the idea of your stats at the end of the game?(like possession,passing %,shotting accuracy)

Let me just say that this is commentary on the beta-choice.exe version of your update on advanced setting, world class difficulty, and normal game speed (6 min halves). I was very impressed with this version, and I've played ALOT of your patches! I really think you were on the right path there. I have only a couple suggestions for tweaks- but please don't change it dramatically!

The games are just a tad bit high scoring, not absurdly so but 4-3, 5-4, 3-3 games are common.

The double-tap low shot I think could be improved by making it more like the vanilla fifa mechanics. BUT if changing that involves screwing with the whole shooting mechanic forget it, it's not worth it.

The CPU AI is much better in attack, they run at you and take advantage of space for the most part. But sometimes it seems the CPU is abnormally good in the air- whether volleying in shots or heading them- the human D likes to stray from their AI marks.

And finally the aforementioned bike glitch.

Besides those minor things I really think you got it right with beta-choice.exe!!

Dude the keepers still react late for weak shots and headers...Plz make this alright and i would like the previous shot mechanics as i felt that the shot mechanics for this has really extreme angles.

N the lag problem is also gone now :drevil:

Dude the keepers still react late for weak shots and headers...Plz make this alright and i would like the previous shot mechanics as i felt that the shot mechanics for this has really extreme angles.

N the lag problem is also gone now :drevil:

Thanks Skyyaa for the feedback :)

Hey SSJ, a new beta is now available here (http://dodownload.filefront.com/8545973//476f755d87c48ac9718b9bd6bfa508944c89b1dcc43b7094bf 75507f762c993ff6aee9eef9e6ac0d). It's the WE2008 BETA 2.0.

I have slowed the game down in terms of close-downs and increased CPU speed of attack. I'm not sure what other area's this will affect.

THIS IS A TESTING PHASE! DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A REFLECTION ON THE FINAL PRODUCT. Thanks guys. Just making sure you know what THIS particular test is for. I am trying out new stuff before release and the feedback here is vital.

All final changes on feedback e.g. shot mechanics, will be made into the final product, the final World Evolution 2008 releasing tomorrow for you lovely lot.

Thanks brothers!
NK.

Dude just tried out the latest beta.

The attack is much better than the previous patches but i feel that it can be made even better.

By making the attack aggressive,You have compensated on the defence cause now the defence is real easy to break.You have got to improve this.

The Keeper's reaction time can be made even better.

The shot mechanics were very good..I liked it.

Dude just tried out the latest beta.

The attack is much better than the previous patches but i feel that it can be made even better.

By making the attack aggressive,You have compensated on the defence cause now the defence is real easy to break.You have got to improve this.

The Keeper's reaction time can be made even better.

The shot mechanics were very good..I liked it.


i believe there to be a balance between the two, that of which I will sort out and tune.

NK.

In this beta NK, back to the same old problem you have long ago, I'm able to score lots of goals outside the penalty area. Although the GK manage to save the ball, the ball will deflect into goal off the GK's hand. It looks as though the GK got weak hands ROFL. Please look into that NK. Thanks!!!

very nice, i am liking the heading system
the whole thing almost totally perfect

i was ac milan beat atalanta 5-0

59%-41% possesion my way
25 shots 19 on target
78% passing
(for you leavemealone)

i was ac milan beat atalanta 5-0

59%-41% possesion my way
25 shots 19 on target
78% passing
(for you leavemealone)

stats are similar to mine but your shooting accuracy is good.also,i easily conceed and score goals.i keep clean sheet in 1/10 games.some defense tips will be appreciated.

i have no gameplay patch installed.i will try the beta version.:bouncy:

Yeah try to get the balance and improve the keepers and their reaction time :)

Dude,Quick turn kicks from outside the penalty area are still going in for goals.

yes, my keeper had to do a really good save because some player shot the ball off a pass without looking better than he could shoot normally

NK

I have played with this new BETA,
and for me it is very easy (Profesional, normal speed)
I won almoust every game ,and have many,many 100% chances.

This 2 games I always compare with previous gameplay versions:
Serbia - Croatia (CPU)
http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/5/5_slika_002.jpg (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=5_slika_002.jpg) click on pic

Serbia - Portugal (CPU)
http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/5/5_slika_006.jpg (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=5_slika_006.jpg) click on pic

Gameplay SPEED is almoust perfect for me (maybe slower for a bit),
shootnig is nice, but CPU defence and midfield is horrible ,and very easy to break.
In atack CPU create very litlle chances , and they score goal (if they score) from some hard position or far away. It`s like CPU have NO ideas in atack ...
They have very litlle shots on target.

I will play more tonight;)

Why dont you try increasing the difficulty level if you find professional easy???

I have played a couple of games with the new beta and it is the best gameplay i ever played. Great job.:)
It is much harder and realistic.

Maybe you could improve a little bit the CPU Midfield. Also keepers needs some improvements. In shots from outside they deflect the ball inside the goal very often.

And could of fix the crosses direction too? When i try to cross from the wings to the penalty spot the ball goes much time to behind the area.

I play with keyboard and in Professional level.

Why dont you try increasing the difficulty level if you find professional easy???

Yes I can alwasy go to WORLD CLASS,
but when comparing with earlier versions it`s very easy ....

PS
Tonight I will play on World class,
but I will crash them again;)
Will see ....I will post screens

NK
now I have played on World class level,
and it is harder but not that much harder

Here are games:
http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/5/5_slika_001.jpg (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=5_slika_001.jpg)http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/5/5_slika_005.jpg (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=5_slika_005.jpg)http://img2.imagetitan.com/img2/small/5/5_slika_007634.jpg (http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=5_slika_007634.jpg)

I hit many bars, many chances but Portugal was better in 2 games
(Only in game they can beat us :junior:)

NK maybe check out passing sistem in atack, I think it is not that precise.
I play on gamepad ,and point to one player ,but pass comes out to diferent side players. This happens only when I atack and not always.
But this happens many time in important moments for me....

just played a quick match ghana v usa
very unacurate game quite dissapointing still won 3-0 though
(keyboard and world class btw i have a gamepad but i dont like it)
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4444/untitledoz4.th.jpg (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledoz4.jpg)

People if you find the difficulty easy,Start playing top teams..And keep upping the level..Simple.

You keep getting better,You cant stay at the same level now can you (H)

People if you find the difficulty easy,Start playing top teams..And keep upping the level..Simple.

You keep getting better,You cant stay at the same level now can you (H)

But why ???

People can not always play Barcelona or World 11 teams,
there are many ,many other teams in Fifa....

I have feeling that you will lower your level in final release :)

I never have and never will.

Even NK knows that :rockman:

OK will see :)

I don`t think NK is making gameplay update just for you,
I think it`s for all Fifa community ;)

i just played a "top team" had to go and couldnt complete it but i totally dominated...

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8646/untitleddv3.th.png (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitleddv3.png)

WE2008 should be out later this evening UK-GMT time.

A lot of testing went on last night, my friend Mike came over and we had two large created tournaments, we got knocked out of our created "Kings Cup", the second tourny was gutting, semi-final lost 3-2 as England v Uruguay. Mike missed an open goal and I missed a 1v1 when it just missed close.

The evening was pure fun, but also an extensive beta test and tuning session. We agreed we have got it to the point where only small tweaks can be made.

It will all come down to self preference. But this is probably the most challenging and realistic I can get it.

NK.

great news :)

coool, cant wait :bouncy:

**UPDATE**

World Evolution 2008 has been delayed.

I'm very sorry for holding it back, there are still tweaks and tuning to be made within the AI and CPU itself to bring out the best possible play. I do believe once complete, anyone who has updated kits, rosters, faces and WE2008 will have no need for FIFA 08, as it is more of an updated FIFA 07 in the first place. I personally am very disappointed with FIFA 08 current-gen, as it plays more like a FIFA 07.1.

More news on World Evolution 2008::

The latest beta offered an increased realism throughout, and this helped contain the challenge. What has been done is extensive work on this area to eliminate any errors within the play. Hard-core coded bugs cannot obviously be fixed, but many issues within the gameplay have now gone. e.g. the lag bug and goalkeeper clearance kicks.

The defence stay back and want the ball, they will send players' further up the field to get the ball and attack, giving more of a midfield battle.

Shot mechanic remain the same, but with more chance of error under pressure. This creates a sense of closure on defending allowing tactical gamers to man-mark and make the very best in the sport, miss. Open chances are of course clinically dealt with by the very best teams. So be careful as they will take advantage of open spaces, like in real life.

I'm very happy to bring you this news, I'm looking forward to releasing WE2008 to you all very soon :)

NK.

i am waiting for it.

i tried the beta version.it was first time that i tried some gameplay patch and my views on it is that it is good but it should be improved in some fields.
i think improvements have all been suggested earlier.so,here is the result of my match played-
Roma vs inter milan(20 mins game,legendary level)
with NK patch i won 4-1
with ea gameplay mostly draw.

actually the long range shots go wide.so, i was lucky to conceed only 1 goal.
scoring was easily because CPU players marking was poor.

looking forward for the new version.

it has been for a while that i am not using your gameplay update for fifa07 (the last that i am using is WE5 which came with so much disappointments). yes fifa08 demo doesn't have many different from fifa07 but then i heard someone told that it is an old version so maybe the final version of fifa08 will be better(?) i am hoping so! :p

but if it's also like that demo.. and your gameplay update is better (may be far better).. so i think i am going to save some money this year. but the fifa08 demo gameplay is really the best among the series.. and i feel it's better than pes6 so let's see can you create the better?

I totally disagree of people saying that Fifa 08 plays the same as Fifa 07.

For God's sake it does'nt.

Its a total improvement over Fifa 07...All the key areas and problems in 07 have been improved and rectified in 08.I cant believe you people saying that,Having played Fifa 07 so much.

Really Disappointing.

To each their own Mr.SSJ.

I'm sure everyone can see the improvements, but not everyone wants to spend £40+ for an improvement :)

haha nice, i havent played the demo yet.. lol i find the demos alot different than the final version of the game for some reason, even if it isnt its kinda like some mental power thing :P

Well ~99,99% of people is saying that Fifa 08 is almoust same thing as Fifa07,
that means ssj4karan belong to ~ 0.01 % ;)

NK try to lower nonsence fouls for CPU in final version

Thanks in advance

Yup,N i am happy i belong to the 0.1% category.

Yup,N i am happy i belong to the 0.1% category.

0.01 % :)

NK try to lower nonsence fouls for CPU in final versionThanks in advance
Yes, I want to see that as well. I do not even touch the CPU and the player falls down and a free kick is awarded to them. Sometimes that happens right outside the area and it is REALLY FRUSTRATING, especially when playing against good teams, who always score from the freekicks then.

don't believe and judge just from what you have seen :p because most of my friends who used to play pes always said that fifa08 demo is just the same as fifa07. and even who always plays fifa07 said that too lol well actually fifa08 demo plays way better than fifa07. i do have spend many times to play the demo up to 30 minutes non stop (NEVERENDING_GAME = 1). in the demo you can feel the different and feel the same too. the gameplay is much smarter where cpu really build up the attacking (DIFFICULTY_LEVEL = 5). the graphic maybe looks the same but the gameplay.. yes finally has the improvements.

don't believe and judge just from what you have seen :p because most of my friends who used to play pes always said that fifa08 demo is just the same as fifa07. and even who always plays fifa07 said that too lol well actually fifa08 demo plays way better than fifa07. i do have spend many times to play the demo up to 30 minutes non stop (NEVERENDING_GAME = 1). in the demo you can feel the different and feel the same too. the gameplay is much smarter where cpu really build up the attacking (DIFFICULTY_LEVEL = 5). the graphic maybe looks the same but the gameplay.. yes finally has the improvements.

I have demo installed ,and I can say it is :kader::X
NK gameplay update is 100 times better :)

One thing that I noticed in this latest beta that is also really annoying is that my players wont always do what I tell them to. For example, I tell my defender to go towards the ball, then sometimes he just stands there. Also, in the defence, I pressed the shoot button to kick the ball out of my defence, but my defender did not do anything, and then the opponent came and scored because of that.

REALLY ANNOYING.

One thing that I noticed in this latest beta that is also really annoying is that my players wont always do what I tell them to. For example, I tell my defender to go towards the ball, then sometimes he just stands there. Also, in the defence, I pressed the shoot button to kick the ball out of my defence, but my defender did not do anything, and then the opponent came and scored because of that.

REALLY ANNOYING.

Ya totally agree. Is like during WCup 2006 Brazil vs France match when Henry score the only goal, Roberto Carlos just stood there and said, "thats not my position, even when im the nearest to the ball". LOL. Please fix that as well NK.

Ya totally agree. Is like during WCup 2006 Brazil vs France match when Henry score the only goal, Roberto Carlos just stood there and said, "thats not my position, even when im the nearest to the ball". LOL. Please fix that as well NK.

I have this problem (bug) also ;)

i am more than happy to agree with ssj in this instance. i think that the 08 demo is a vast improvement over 07. the gameplay is much improved, and to me the graphics are more vibrant, not so washed out looking.

Finally i have atleast 2 people agreeing with me now.I am sure more will once the game is released :jacko:

well, one improvement is itwill say 08 instead of 07 :p

Right, so ANOTHER thing I noticed that you need to fix is that there are too many goals where the player just does a quick turn right outside the area, and the ball goes into the net. Could you make it so that that does not happen at all.

referee never gives cards when foul is inside the box.he awards penalty but no cards.please fix this too.

well, one improvement is itwill say 08 instead of 07 :p

Wow..Thats a great Find.

Plz do a favour for me and dont get Fifa 08 no matter what..Plz...

ok ;)

Now thats more like it :junior:

referee never gives cards when foul is inside the box.he awards penalty but no cards.please fix this too.
I think that is hardcoded and can't be overwritten or edited. Unfortunately.

I think that is hardcoded and can't be overwritten or edited. Unfortunately.

Like i said earlier,I played a patch long time back,It was not made by NK,In that the Refree's decisions were as accurate as you can get it on Fifa 07.If you want you can test it out.You can get it on fifa4defans site.

Could you post a link? I can't seem to find it.

yes,a link will be better.i am trying different patches.but all have bugs.so,currently i prefer original ea gameplay.
hoping to get a better gameplay patch.

what does Absolutely_perfect_goalie=0 mean?
i changed the value to 1 to turn it on.but when i reopen the file the value is again 0.
i want to turn it on.what value should i keep?

Here's the download link for the patch:

http://files.filefront.com/gamplayfx+v4/;7410512;;/fileinfo.html

N here are the features of the patch:


SL Gameplay FX v4 Final
by ShoreLooser
Description:

This Download contains a completly new gameplay for FIFA07:

+ Keeper React (keeper behaviour changed a lot, the see the ball later, but can react faster! The 1on1 situations have been improved aswell.

+ Timed Shots (A strong shoot needs drive, therefore the players have to strike out harder and fast. From now you you need a good timing, but your shoots look quite realistic.

+ Backspin Plus (As in the real life: If you hit the ball perfect, you get a really strong and placed shoot.

+ Spin Plus 2 (Now you get a really realistic spin

+ Shot Pro X (The speed, skills and condition of the player affects now more on the shoot.

+ Deadly Play 2 (CPU take advantage of your mistakes and makes a realistic and fast attack.

+ N Sprint 2 (CPU sprint now much more effective)

+ Authentic Pro 2 (Realistic behaviour of the ball, completly new ball physics)

+ Free Run 2 (The gameplay is much more free and incalculable)

+ Jost Plus 2 (CPU form up faster in defense to complicate for example header and duels in the midfield)

+ Intercept Plus 2 (more and better tackles by the CPU. That makes the game much more realistic)

+ improved difficulty leves (Legens is now really the most difficult)

+ Smooth Plus 2 (smoother gameplay, improved wings and passes)

+ Dribbling Frequency lower (No senseless dribblings any longer by the CPU)

+ Fernschuss Momentum (As soon as the get a chance, the strikers shoot)

+ Cold Finishing 2 (Strikers use their chances much more effective. Players like Klose, Ibrahimowicz, Adriano, Henry could be a nightmare for you)

+ Release Ball 2 (makes the gameplay faster because players hold the ball as short as possible)

NOTE:This patch may not be very challenging..Its easy but FUN :mrpimp:

Have Fun.

If the link did not work..Go here and get it:

http://www.fifa4fans.de/downloads/onelink_e.php?showid=571


NK's patch's are much more challenging than this ;)

I wonder what files change the behaviour of the referees. Would be nice to change it, so that I would not have to install other gameplay updates.

NK's patch's are much more challenging than this ;)

i didnt find the legendary level in beta version of NK challenging.
i will try this patch.

This patch is more fun with Legendary Difficulty..So try it out :jacko:

i played 3 matches in legendary level with that patch.
it was fun playing-goalie once came out to halfline.10 players run after a single player but still my player controls the ball.
but i should say that there are some good improvements in that patch.though i deleted it because i didnt like its game speed.i cant play at high speeds.

i cant play at high speeds.

Me also;)

Neither can I.

what does Absolutely_perfect_goalie=0 mean?
Nothing, it isn't read by the executable code, best as I can tell

i didnt felt any difference after doing Absolutely_perfect_goalie=1

NK WHEN IS FINAL RELEASE OUT ?????? :confused:

What are you guys talking about?

I play my games on fast and with that patch,The game felt slow to me compared to NK's patch..I thought all of you would love the speed.The refree's decisions were also spot on.

Hope NK can see what make refree's that good in that patch and implement it in his so that we can overall have a much better playing experience.

Whoa, so let me get this straight, because I haven't had a lot of time to look of this thread. This person NK made a patch that enhances the AI?!??!?! If so, I WANT THAT PATCH!!!

However, first I have some questions to ask for those of you who have the patch. First of all, after getting this patch, can I still freely edit anything with CM? I ask because I know that CM does sometimes have problems with certain patches...

Second, does this patch enhance just AI or also referees? Does it really make the AI smarter guaranteed? because I really don't want it to be stupider...

Lastly, does this patch makes gameplay more like PES or what?

Thank you very much! Please answer my questions! :D

**UPDATE**

I'm very happy to bring you this news, I'm looking forward to releasing WE2008 to you all very soon :)

NK.


Any info NK ?