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mse]tony
31-08-2007, 09:10:PM
Hello everybody here,I'm from China.
I think you have already got that demo, so do we.
after playing for a while, how do you like that?
please tell me about your opinions, so I can translate them to the FIFA players here in China.
Thanks for sharing:)

CARRICK
31-08-2007, 09:20:PM
Hello mate!

I think its okay

A bit too similar to FIFA 07 but i didnt really expect it to be massively different

I think the graphics have improved, especially the faces and the grass (which is now a much better shade of green!)

The game doesnt seem to lag or 'slow down' as FIFA 07 did which is definately good (Y)

In conclusion, im looking forward to FIFA 08 being released but am not expecting too many changes.

Hope this helps!
all the best,
<carrick>

Silencer
31-08-2007, 09:29:PM
I have to agree with Carrick on most parts:

- plays like Fifa 07
- Graphics are better especially the faces which are in 2gf as you can see on my Screens in the 'template' thread.
- Commentary is nice, even the goalkeepers gets mentioned by name.
- I have to see how Fifa 08 will look to really give my opinion but the first encounter is good for me :)
- What I don't like sometimes is the cinematics in other words I can't see any difference comparing them to Fifa 07 except with corners and freekicks where you see the goalkeepers at close range.

What I hate as a Screenshotmaker is the text and screens showing up at moments where it's perfect to take Screens so I'm hoping somone makes a patch where you can shut off the pop-ups like this year..

mse]tony
31-08-2007, 09:42:PM
I think we have a majority of similiar opinions, except that

-some of us are complaining about the key for switching players which EA changed it to Q in both "classic" and "new", I think it will take some time for FIFA players to get used to it.

-other than the goalkeepers can serve freekicks, we didn't found anything that is revolutionary comparing to FIFA07.

-AI is improved and the game seemed to be faster than FIFA07, as you said "no lag". And graphics is improved too, the game looks more "fresh".

Thanks,you all helped a lot!

K.o
31-08-2007, 09:43:PM
actually, ugly one.
exactly like fifa07.
if i thought to buy it, now its never gonna happend.
i think this is the year of KONAMI.
Same Year-Same Fifa.
this crowd, this grass so ugly.

Generic Oval
31-08-2007, 09:54:PM
I enjoyed the demo and I'm really looking foward to FIFA 07.:p

Oh sorry I meant FIFA 08.... (that's confusing)

Morphia_cn
31-08-2007, 09:55:PM
fifa08 pc version is S H I T :(,xbox360 version great!

Lemonman31
31-08-2007, 09:57:PM
i might just have to go buy a 360, just for fifa.

matix375
31-08-2007, 10:03:PM
Hello fifa community
Personally I DID NOT like the demo at all :(, very dissapointing with fifa this year, first af all I did not see any MAJOR changes other than the goalkeer (It looks and feels the same as fifa 07, only with new faces). The gameplay is REALLY fast (Real Football is not so fast, I personally like the spped of PES6, much better). In terms of new moves....well.....it's all the Facking same as Fifa 07, nothing new at all (I was looking forward to seen new moves and skills).
Graphics have improved a bit, but not too much. Cinematics ALL the same as Fifa 07....kind gay!!!


PS: I personally think FIFA went a step behind by not realesing this game on Current Gen as PES7 will :(

In conclusion I think that PES7 will kick Fifa's a55 big time now!!!, I've been a Fifa fan since 1999 and it hurt to say it but...I will not buy Fifa this year, I'll get PES7 instead.

PS:I had to be real

dobrin1980
31-08-2007, 10:03:PM
oooooh, EA changed the switch player button ...when u defend you cant switch between players with S button...thats horrible....can you make patch to fix that problem and give us back the old button configuration

Silencer
31-08-2007, 10:05:PM
oooooh, EA changed the switch player button ...when u defend you cant switch between players with S...thats horrible....can you make patch to fix that problem and give us back the old button configuration

You can configure the controls yourself in the full game ;)

dobrin1980
31-08-2007, 10:07:PM
no no....i mean they changed the whole configuration, mate....passing is S....swithc player is E....in the old fifas they were the same button...you know that...i play this game for a decade, man...i know what im talking

p.s.In the demo there is a menu before the match where you can change buttons...thats not the problem....i tried all options...i cant switch players when i defend...i have to use the Through ball/Switch player button....instead Pass/switch player (like old fifa-s) :s***:

mse]tony
31-08-2007, 10:14:PM
You can configure the controls yourself in the full game ;)

really?I see that in both two control mode "classic" and "new" switch player key and pass key is separated from each other.

I think most FIFA players wants them to be the same key.

dobrin1980
31-08-2007, 10:19:PM
tony;2391015']really?I see that in both two control mode "classic" and "new" switch player key and pass key is separated from each other.

I think most FIFA players wants them to be the same key.

exactly....im so used to that classic configuration that its hard to change my style of playing

OrgulloVikingo
31-08-2007, 10:22:PM
I imagine the PC version is much different than the 360, PS3 version since those that have played it say it's very good. Totally different engine I think. Anyone confirm this? I know last years PC and 360 version were different.

mse]tony
31-08-2007, 10:24:PM
exactly....im so used to that classic configuration that its hard to change my style of playing

We can't change that...what we can do is practise and practise and then get used to that.

VladoMontenegro
31-08-2007, 10:41:PM
I make 20-30 posts every year when new fifa comes out and then i pause till next fifa.
Well i downloaded the demo.
Just to make it clear. I play fifa games for ten years. Always buying them.
I am forced to write same words every year.
Another fifa - same fifa. I wrote somewhere else that i saw more progress in 2D (lol) games than in fifa since 2001. I just cant believe that they CANT produce something different. I have to play a game with poor graphics (all fifa, fifa 08 too, poor player models, small number of polygons, sucky ball physics) on my 500e graphics card (more expensive than ps3.. next gen... blah bla...). Bah. Thanks God for developers who actually develop games that at least look good. And thanks God for football games for mobile phones. They progressed more than fifa in last 10 years.
All other ea games are great. nba, hfl, nhl, need for speed series... But fifa is the greatest money maker so they add a couple of new features once in a decade and earn a lot of money.
Sorry guys but I am really pissed off right now after playing the demo...
This is not right...
Preordered Crysis...
Im taking my mobile phone and starting to play football.

C ya tomorrow...

Dr3am3r
31-08-2007, 10:48:PM
im able to change my controls on either my keyboard or my rumble pad2, anyways who plays PC games such as this using a keyboard lmao?

MightyTic
31-08-2007, 10:49:PM
Just played a game to soon to say about the game , but one thing that sticks out a mile is the Sprinting or lack of it. The animation is ok there arms and legs move as if they are sprinting and its a couple of taps of the ball in front of themselves and then a longer one but there is no speed to there runs its awful looking.

I had Herny on the ball and was tabbing the sprint button, as I said the animation looked ok but the speed of the run???? looked like he was running on wet tar.

dobrin1980
31-08-2007, 10:50:PM
anyways who plays PC games such as this using a keyboard lmao?
i do

VladoMontenegro
31-08-2007, 10:53:PM
i do

Where is the fun in that rofl????? How do u aim lol? 90 degrees toward goal or 45 degrees aiming huh??? rofl

$MZ77$
31-08-2007, 10:53:PM
Where are the new moves???
I can't believe that this demo will be like the full game which I will buy!
I really hope it isn't the same!
Buuuut,
I play FIFA since 1996 when I was a child and since that year I always played Fifa and preferred them to PES! And this will always stay so!

VladoMontenegro
31-08-2007, 10:56:PM
Where are the new moves???
I can't believe that this demo will be like the full game which I will buy!
I really hope it isn't the same!
Buuuut,
I play FIFA since 1996 when I was a child and since that year I always played Fifa and preferred them to PES! And this will always stay so!

And FIFA will always stay the SAME for you! :)

Dr3am3r
31-08-2007, 10:58:PM
i do

okok just so you know it is possible to assign buttons .

as for the demo im not convinced this is FIFA 08, first of all you can't customise your formation - it says in every review you should be able to adjust positions just like in PES, secondly no new skills at all. i've done rainbow dozen of times with right analog but that's about it. Im almost sure EA are taking a p.ss .:alex:

VladoMontenegro
31-08-2007, 11:03:PM
okok just so you know it is possible to assign buttons .

as for the demo im not convinced this is FIFA 08, first of all you can't customise your formation - it says in every review you should be able to adjust positions just like in PES, secondly no new skills at all. i've done rainbow dozen of times with right analog but that's about it. Im almost sure EA are taking a p.ss .:alex:

LoL nice about aout formation customizing :D Maybe they will ADD it? rofl :)
New year - same fifa with our without formation settings

Dr3am3r
31-08-2007, 11:07:PM
ROFL i just found custom formation, it's in the main menu as separate feature

mse]tony
31-08-2007, 11:11:PM
Thanks very much you guys.

It's already 5:00AM in china, so I really must go to sleep now.

Good night to myself..

All the best

Deni_Rossonero
31-08-2007, 11:34:PM
Just played a game to soon to say about the game , but one thing that sticks out a mile is the Sprinting or lack of it. The animation is ok there arms and legs move as if they are sprinting and its a couple of taps of the ball in front of themselves and then a longer one but there is no speed to there runs its awful looking.

I had Herny on the ball and was tabbing the sprint button, as I said the animation looked ok but the speed of the run???? looked like he was running on wet tar.

Dude there's no tapping the sprint button in fifa for a couple of years now i think even way back to fifa 04! You're suppose to hold the sprint button!

Deni_Rossonero
31-08-2007, 11:40:PM
I imagine the PC version is much different than the 360, PS3 version since those that have played it say it's very good. Totally different engine I think. Anyone confirm this? I know last years PC and 360 version were different.

Of course they're different, they're two completely different games, and the pc version is only an updated and a bit changed version of fifa 07, and 06 and 05. they don't care about current gen fifa, but i dont realize why they don't release the next version for pc, and simply stop making current gen, i mean other new games that are made for next gen arrent made for current gen also.

UncleMo
31-08-2007, 11:48:PM
These reviews are just not promising. I'm still going to try it (http://www.eamods.com/ForumsPro/viewtopic/p=25605.html#25605).

Gaucho-Gaz
31-08-2007, 11:52:PM
they don't care about current gen fifa, but i dont realize why they don't release the next version for pc, and simply stop making current gen, i mean other new games that are made for next gen arrent made for current gen also.

Because they are stupid,inept and incompetent.

The person/person's who made the decision to keep fifa '08 on the pc current- gen need to be taken out, does anyone know a good hitman ???? :drevil:

Fifa '08 current-gen = a game for the pc that's designed to run on a seven year old piece of :f***:

What is the world coming to ....

VladoMontenegro
01-09-2007, 12:15:AM
Because they are stupid,inept and incompetent.

The person/person's who made the decision to keep fifa '08 on the pc current- gen need to be taken out, does anyone know a good hitman ???? :drevil:

Fifa '08 current-gen = a game for the pc that's designed to run on a seven year old piece of :f***:

What is the world coming to ....


MY WORDS exactly. I have a 500 euros graphics card to play fifa current gen. I mean ROFL.

Gaucho-Gaz
01-09-2007, 12:29:AM
You summed it up pefectly with your first post in this topic Vlado.

Let's hope pes2008 will give your €500 (£338) graphics card the workout it deserves. :amika:

And I hope you don't buy fifa '08 for the pc,it's time for us pc gamer's to stand up to these inept buffons ( no offence to inept buffoons) to show we are not going to take anymore of their silly ps2 garbage and we need to hurt them where it hurts them the most.

Lemonman31
01-09-2007, 12:47:AM
we need to hurt them where it hurts them the most.

SQUARE IN THE NUTS!

2496
01-09-2007, 12:48:AM
tony;2390938']Hello everybody here,I'm from China.
I think you have already got that demo, so do we.
after playing for a while, how do you like that?
please tell me about your opinions, so I can translate them to the FIFA players here in China.
Thanks for sharing:)

(你在哪个论坛.大家可以交流) ^^
lol.Im stay at asian right now.i can translate to them too in the chinese forum.By the way.FIFA 08 PC version ? Graphics sucks.But i think if Xbox360 nor PS3 version will better than it. (FIFA 07 360 version has already show us the improve graphic)

SCP19O6
01-09-2007, 12:48:AM
This is not FIFA 08, it's FIFA 07 2.0

ForZ@FCK
01-09-2007, 12:52:AM
I really feel it would be more fair skipping making fifa on pc than this.. well i don't have words for it :(

There may be some improvement in gameplay i discover at some point.. i hope so.. it's just i don't even like to score a goal just to see the same very uncool celebrations for the 3'rd year in a row.. the "swim" the "wave your arms silly over your head" and worst of all the "f.... my teammates face" ...daaamn they could be so mutch better and cooler

And they sure keep the tradition off damn ugly kits/fonts ect... total mess!

Just my first thoughts..

2496
01-09-2007, 12:54:AM
This is not FIFA 08, it's FIFA 07 2.0

lol ^Or else named it (FIFA 07 latest transfers edition) when release
FIFA08 ? Its a upset news for us.

onbail
01-09-2007, 12:55:AM
Horrible it plays the same as FIFA 07 and graphics wise still looks like FIFA 07 with some minor extra details i was hoping that FIFA 08 would be actually half decent but i was wrong.

Hopefully PES2008 will be good and Konami didn't slack off and that PES2008 doesn't end up becoming PES 6.1 just like FIFA 07.1 or so called FIFA 08.

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 12:58:AM
I really feel it would be more fair skipping making fifa on pc than this.. well i don't have words for it :(

There may be some improvement in gameplay i discover at some point.. i hope so.. it's just i don't even like to score a goal just to see the same very uncool celebrations for the 3'rd year in a row.. the "swim" the "wave your arms silly over your head" and worst of all the "f.... my teammates face" ...daaamn they could be so mutch better and cooler

And they sure keep the tradition off damn ugly kits/fonts ect... total mess!

Just my first thoughts..



aahaha omg good description, i always wondered what kind of celebration is that :mad:

alcest
01-09-2007, 01:06:AM
its the same as last year, it should be available as update for fifa07, i hope only that pes2008 will be veery good, and veeery hard on my hardware, and it will look like fifa2020 :)This is not FIFA 08, it's FIFA 07 2.0

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 01:09:AM
Horrible it plays the same as FIFA 07 and graphics wise still looks like FIFA 07 with some minor extra details i was hoping that FIFA 08 would be actually half decent but i was wrong.

Hopefully PES2008 will be good and Konami didn't slack off and that PES2008 doesn't end up becoming PES 6.1 just like FIFA 07.1 or so called FIFA 08.

From vids that i've seen PES2008 looks exactly the same and that cut in trick that Ronaldo and Quaresma do looks retarded, very lame IMO.

just gonna go and kill myself

onbail
01-09-2007, 01:11:AM
At least Pro Evo feels like a football game without the fancy trick **** bull**** so there is still hope.

Hmm wonder if 2K Sports will ever make a football game?

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 01:14:AM
You summed it up pefectly with your first post in this topic Vlado.

Let's hope pes2008 will give your €500 (£338) graphics card the workout it deserves. :amika:

And I hope you don't buy fifa '08 for the pc,it's time for us pc gamer's to stand up to these inept buffons ( no offence to inept buffoons) to show we are not going to take anymore of their silly ps2 garbage and we need to hurt them where it hurts them the most.

Don't hold your breath! PES are never known for their gfx. PES 2008 for the 360 still looks like a PS2 game. PES6 on 360 was attrocious, it didnt belong on a next gen machine and now I see PES 2008 on 360 and I want to send a letter to Konami bashing their lazyness and indifference. I was hoping for a next gen PES but no... They don't care about gfx, audio, presentation. Fifa 2008 on the 360 looks outstanding. It's totally different from PC. With that 500 euro gfx card you might as well buy a 360 and there you go. Trust me, PES looks PS2 bland on the PS3, 360, imagine on the PC! It's apparent that EA have the 360 and PS3 as priorities. Konami doesn't care. As long as people are happy w/ good gameplay, why work hard and add features, improve gfx, audio, presentation? A few gameplay tweeks and the zombies will be happy so there you go!

Fifa 2008 on 360, PS3 will be King this year according from what I've seen, heard and read. Konami will eventually wake up when EA leave them in the dust. I mean, EA already outsells Konami by a huge amount. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like EA. I am objective in these matters. I just want the better game and this year it'll be FIFA. Oh, and I consider WE9 my favorite footy game of all time so that tells you something about my nonfanboyism.

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 01:17:AM
At least Pro Evo feels like a football game without the fancy trick **** bull**** so there is still hope.

no fancy tricks no fun, i dont watch Man U matches if Ronaldo isn't playing, same goes for Porto, Barcelona and many other teams. no silky skills - no fun .

Gaucho-Gaz
01-09-2007, 01:20:AM
From vids that i've seen PES2008 looks exactly the same and that cut in trick that Ronaldo and Quaresma do looks retarded, very lame IMO.
just gonna go and kill myself

I agree about pes2008 unfortunately, but this is what it boils down to with the fifa 'next-gen'

If it turns out to be awesome but we on the pc are stuck with a load of old piss then we have to kick up a massive fuss about it.

We can't let ea get away with it.

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 01:22:AM
which console is better PS3 or Xbox 360 ???

onbail
01-09-2007, 01:24:AM
Hopefully the 360 versions game play wont be as bad.

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 01:25:AM
At least Pro Evo feels like a football game without the fancy trick **** bull**** so there is still hope.

Hmm wonder if 2K Sports will ever make a football game?

PES is very unrealistic with their robotic running, tap button = ball going out to the top tier of stadium, and players moving in only 16 directions. But let me not get into that debate. That said, Fifa 2007 was bad as well but showed us what the new engine is capable of. Within 2 or 3 years of EA building on that new next gen physics engine, it'll be absolutely unbeatable.....unless Konami start caring about making changes, improvements, like fixing gfx, overhaiuling audio, presentation, fixing the dreadful online play (EA is super superior online), etc.

NEXT GEN machines demnand next gen everything! No need to pick gameplay over graphics anymore with next gen hardware. There is more than enough room for both. The gameplay over graphics issue is a last gen issue. It'll be lame for anyone to bring that up this gen!

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 01:30:AM
which console is better PS3 or Xbox 360 ???

Gamewise, Onlinewise, bang for the buck wise = 360
Hardware wise = PS3 (360 has issues with hardware failure).

I much prefer the 360. It's game exclusives are exceptional and numerous. Xbox LIVE is superior to PS3's online service. Down the road when PS3 costs less and has some good games it'll be worth to buy (in about 2 years). For now, the 360 is the machine. With the 3 year automatic warranty and games like Bioshock, Alan Wake, Halo 3, Halo Wars, Mass Effect, Devil May Cry, Splinter Cell, etc. exclusives and almost all the games the PS3 has including GTA4 (only with exclusive online content) + Xbox Live! It's a nobrainer. Put simply the 360 delivers now while the PS3 is still a promise for the future.

Neg-Rep!
01-09-2007, 01:31:AM
I agree about pes2008 unfortunately, but this is what it boils down to with the fifa 'next-gen'

If it turns out to be awesome but we on the pc are stuck with a load of old piss then we have to kick up a massive fuss about it.

We can't let ea get away with it.

What do you agree with PES unfortunantly isn't that basically being a fanboy?

Thats what I don't get many guys knows how little they work on current gen yet they still stick to FIFA despite slagging it off, they wont give PES a go because 'its not licenced'

Both games are amazing and have their ups and downs and both are good to play for different reasons.

Plus PES is giving next gen type gfx for PC so isnt that good, improved gameplay and all sorts.....if its going to be better than FIFA08 why not play it?

BruceMcMoose
01-09-2007, 01:33:AM
This is not FIFA 08, it's FIFA 07 2.0

DAMMIT SOMEONE BEAT ME TO THE PUNCHLINE :P

Hate the demo.... it really is 07 2.0, id honestly rather pay $20 just to update fifa 07 with new rosters and kits.

Still the same AI bugs i feel, team AI back off the ball rather then try and intercept it. Cut scenes are 100% the same, graphics are about the same IMO, faces look more real, but you dont see faces 80% of the time. Animation... no great improvement i feel. Carnt really watch animation thought when the game is going 2000 miles per hour. Less lag, but thats because ITS CURRENT GENERATION, seriously EA.... One thing that bugs me about Fifa 07 and 08 is the damn 2D crowds and stewards... surly EA can think up something more lifelike, **** last time i saw a footie match, the crowd wasnt full of 2D cutouts.

Anyway final word... this is a $40 Roster upgrade with some MINOR tweaks.

Where is there a PES demo i can try.

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 01:34:AM
Hopefully the 360 versions game play wont be as bad.

Seen the 360 videos? Very very cool and very next gen.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/fifa-08-video-42359.html

Neg-Rep!
01-09-2007, 01:36:AM
You guys have to understand that EA don't care about the current gen, it wont be long till they stop making them. FIFA08 on the 360 is a totally different game and thats what their aim is.

I suprised Konami have made an effort with the PC version, despite being so lazy last year.

Gaucho-Gaz
01-09-2007, 01:36:AM
NEXT GEN machines demnand next gen everything! No need to pick gameplay over graphics anymore with next gen hardware. There is more than enough room for both. The gameplay over graphics issue is a last gen issue. It'll be lame for anyone to bring that up this gen!

Disagree with you there Madridista,

A medium spec pc could handle the next-gen version of fifa probably.

Now, them with a low spec pc could lower the graphical settings so that it would run on their pc but it would obviously end up looking like fifa as it is present on the pc.

But obviously you would wan't the next-gen version gameplay, even if it mean't to sacrifice the graphical quality.

Where is the justice with ea's decision regarding the pc and fifa '08.

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 01:37:AM
yes i agree GFX of PES series hasn't evolved much. FIFA looks very close to real life football on TV, but somehow it feels awkward when you play it. After seeing
few gameplay vids on youtube and gametrailer I thought to myself this looks like a decent solid gameplay unlike previous instalments of FIFA series, which it probably is but only on next gen consoles like xbox and ps3. I would rather spend my money on a good Graphics card for my PC than Xbox and Im not even talking about hefty PS3 - £400 f@ck that.

futbol724
01-09-2007, 01:41:AM
ok here is what I think;

- I think they tried to make the game harder in all aspects. The manual passing and through passes and crossing make it more fun and harder.

- The cpu AI is much better with more variations in attacking and with more solid defense.

- I like the changes in commentary, especially the more frequent name announcing when you score or when your goalkeeper makes a save.

- The graphics seem better with the faces, just a little bit tho.

- Sounds are good as usual

- No big changes in graphics section.

- The tactics creator and more varied tactic layouts are important. I tried changing the tactics and it worked better this time in actual gameplay.

- The shooting mechanics are different apparently. It is tougher to hit the target. No more perfect shooting.

I believe this game is better than 07 but I am not sure it is better than PES.

We will see...

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 01:41:AM
Disagree with you there Madridista,

A medium spec pc could handle the next-gen version of fifa probably.

Now, them with a low spec pc could lower the graphical settings so that it would run on their pc but it would obviously end up looking like fifa as it is present on the pc.

But obviously you would wan't the next-gen version gameplay, even if it mean't to sacrifice the graphical quality.

Where is the justice with ea's decision regarding the pc and fifa '08.

i meant on the 360 the argument is lame

Gaucho-Gaz
01-09-2007, 01:42:AM
What do you agree with PES unfortunantly isn't that basically being a fanboy?

What are you on about ?????

First you try and give me a spelling lesson ????

Then, you suggest i'm a fanboy :f***:

I was agreeing with dr3am3r that pes2008 doesn't look much more enhanced gameplay wise than pes 6.

EA AND KONAMI SUCK

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 01:45:AM
Seen the 360 videos? Very very cool and very next gen.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/fifa-08-video-42359.html

Yes exactly what Im talking about, it really does look different, passing, shooting
whole movement in general

plus4s
01-09-2007, 01:55:AM
Don't hold your breath! PES are never known for their gfx. PES 2008 for the 360 still looks like a PS2 game. PES6 on 360 was attrocious, it didnt belong on a next gen machine and now I see PES 2008 on 360 and I want to send a letter to Konami bashing their lazyness and indifference. I was hoping for a next gen PES but no... They don't care about gfx, audio, presentation. Fifa 2008 on the 360 looks outstanding. It's totally different from PC. With that 500 euro gfx card you might as well buy a 360 and there you go. Trust me, PES looks PS2 bland on the PS3, 360, imagine on the PC! It's apparent that EA have the 360 and PS3 as priorities. Konami doesn't care. As long as people are happy w/ good gameplay, why work hard and add features, improve gfx, audio, presentation? A few gameplay tweeks and the zombies will be happy so there you go!

Fifa 2008 on 360, PS3 will be King this year according from what I've seen, heard and read. Konami will eventually wake up when EA leave them in the dust. I mean, EA already outsells Konami by a huge amount. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like EA. I am objective in these matters. I just want the better game and this year it'll be FIFA. Oh, and I consider WE9 my favorite footy game of all time so that tells you something about my nonfanboyism.

You are wrong bud, you know as well as i that pro evo will allways come out on top where it counts and that is gameplay. Yes EA have the licence and the flash graphics. But they also have terrible gameplay. Believe me i wish konami had the licence. As the fifa 08 demo clearly shows it's another wasted effort of the use of the licence given to them. Ea sports have had plenty of chances to get it right. How many fifa lovers are there(i being one once) who have supported ea over the years and have been continually let down, i tell you the day will come when people will say enough is enough. To be honest i would love for there to be two great football games out there, but alas there is only one, and i know it's not perfect but it still plays far better than ea's effort.:clapwap::clapwap:

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 02:00:AM
Even after we've established this year's FIFA once again is a waste of time and like stated above waste of licensing, Im still desperate to try it on Xbox.

Gaucho-Gaz
01-09-2007, 02:02:AM
As the fifa 08 demo clearly shows it's another wasted effort of the use of the licence

Hold your judgemet until wee see what fifa '08 next-gen is like.

You never know, it could be the pes killer.

Neg-Rep!
01-09-2007, 02:25:AM
What are you on about ?????

First you try and give me a spelling lesson ????

Then, you suggest i'm a fanboy :f***:

I was agreeing with dr3am3r that pes2008 doesn't look much more enhanced gameplay wise than pes 6.

EA AND KONAMI SUCK

I wasnt giving you a spelling lesson, I was point out the point of that word you sounded like, and it is more enhanced than 6 which makes it better than the current gen version of FIFA, next-gen different story.

Also I know I might sound like a thread spoiler but why are people still saying, we'll have to see if EA FIFA is better than PES.....why?

It's not about what games better its about how much you enjoy them and that means you are choosing on personal opinion none of these two are better than the other, its just what you prefer and both games have theirs highs and low's as I said earlier.

sip
01-09-2007, 02:32:AM
As the saying goes "Same sh!t different year".

EA blows.

flyinfifa
01-09-2007, 02:40:AM
just feel obliged to reply to a chinese.r

my girl friend doesnt play any of games.the first word she saw me playing fifa was:what a big head!!!

then i turned to pes,she says:this game is oriented from reality....


Indeed,i really cant find much progress since fifa04.fifa 08 still cant seperate ball and people and you can see that clearly when you play a trick move.

Neg-Rep!
01-09-2007, 03:02:AM
As the saying goes "Same sh!t different year".

EA blows.

You mean 'Same **** different wrapper!'

:D

anamenos
01-09-2007, 03:02:AM
ok here is what I think;

- I think they tried to make the game harder in all aspects. The manual passing and through passes and crossing make it more fun and harder.

- The cpu AI is much better with more variations in attacking and with more solid defense.

- I like the changes in commentary, especially the more frequent name announcing when you score or when your goalkeeper makes a save.

- The graphics seem better with the faces, just a little bit tho.

- Sounds are good as usual

- No big changes in graphics section.

- The tactics creator and more varied tactic layouts are important. I tried changing the tactics and it worked better this time in actual gameplay.

- The shooting mechanics are different apparently. It is tougher to hit the target. No more perfect shooting.

I believe this game is better than 07 but I am not sure it is better than PES.

We will see...

Agree with u, and say that the ball physics are way better from last season, and goalkeepers eventually have more animations than usual

MightyTic
01-09-2007, 03:10:AM
Ok call me Homer doh !

I take it by a few comments on the demo that the PC version is not "NEXT GEN" am I right in saying that?


If so its a joke, PCs were NEXT-GEN before the 360 and PS3 seen the light of day.

Your not tell me that PCs can't handle what a 360 or PS3 can ...

Sinspaw
01-09-2007, 03:20:AM
Don't hold your breath! PES are never known for their gfx. PES 2008 for the 360 still looks like a PS2 game. PES6 on 360 was attrocious, it didnt belong on a next gen machine and now I see PES 2008 on 360 and I want to send a letter to Konami bashing their lazyness and indifference. I was hoping for a next gen PES but no... They don't care about gfx, audio, presentation. Fifa 2008 on the 360 looks outstanding. It's totally different from PC. With that 500 euro gfx card you might as well buy a 360 and there you go. Trust me, PES looks PS2 bland on the PS3, 360, imagine on the PC! It's apparent that EA have the 360 and PS3 as priorities. Konami doesn't care. As long as people are happy w/ good gameplay, why work hard and add features, improve gfx, audio, presentation? A few gameplay tweeks and the zombies will be happy so there you go!

Fifa 2008 on 360, PS3 will be King this year according from what I've seen, heard and read. Konami will eventually wake up when EA leave them in the dust. I mean, EA already outsells Konami by a huge amount. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like EA. I am objective in these matters. I just want the better game and this year it'll be FIFA. Oh, and I consider WE9 my favorite footy game of all time so that tells you something about my nonfanboyism.

I'm sorry to say it out loud but ehm, you're ignorant. If you're telling me that, you actually think faces and the so called 'GFX' is better on FIFA then it's on PES/WE? Ahah, you're blind to say the least. PES3/4/5/6 have always had better grass textures and presentation on the field is so much more realistic but hey, the faces? Everyone knows that Konami makes faces much better than fifa 08. I recall Henry's face on PES3 and it's so much better looking than FIFA 08 is now, and it makes me laugh to look at any face here, rooney, saha, cristiano, it's so damn bad and they had so much time to work it out. FIFA will always have this scripted gameplay, and to be honest I hated PES6 for having similiar things and the X360 version was done with haste but it's still much better than every fifa put together. I'm not trying to buy a war here but such words are just vein. You can't possibly have played WE9 or you wouldn't talk like that. You're a fanboy and you're transparent as air.

Deni_Rossonero
01-09-2007, 03:25:AM
I know that you guys don't speak Croatian so i'm not accusing anyone, but i think that promoting nazism isnt welcome on this site, just so you know sip has something written in his signature that is quite offensive and represents decades of hatred towards any well lets say almost any non-croatian, although its more hostile towards our closest neighbours, serbs, bosnians, and slovenians. I am a croat and i'm dissapointed for the image we're showing. Sram te bilo!

I was going to comment fifa.
Well i don't know what you guys are expecting, if you want a great game buy ps3 or xbox 360, and play that version of fifa. Everybody know that they're not bothering with this version, and that they put everything into the next gen version, this one only lives because some people dont have pc strong enough to play the next version on pc.
And when you look at it that way, fifa 08 is great, i loved fifa 07 and i expected an improoved version of that game and i like the improvements, i even like the pass, change player change, you easily and fast get used to it. And i see the purpose, more logical to have a button for that action separated so you have total control of what you want to do. At least for me it seems more logical, the free formation excites me a lot, but thats not available in the demo, i'm so excited to put a certain player where i want him!
Also the graphics are ok, again if you want better you better go for the next gen version cause current gen doesn't support those massive amounts of graphic quality. For me Fifa 07 was the best game i ever played, and Fifa 08 is only an improved version of that same game, need i say more. And yes i have played pes, and it just doesn't do it for me, that same gameplay you're all talking about, i mean if i can win 4-0 at highest difficulty the first time i play the game then i don't know why people say fifa is the one that's easy to score in. I will say only one thing i play fifa 07 since it came out about 1h minimal a day, and thats now 5 months back i played it 4 hours a day and i HAVEN'T SCORED THE SAME WAY ONCE! While in pes i did. I give fifa the chance i dont play to score i play to play beautiful football and when you play like that you see all that this game offers. When i saw how the players move in pes, i just put the joystick down. For me that game doesn't have nothing to do with real football, the crosses don't even look like something that happens in real football, while the defenders are soooooo easy to go past, i mean it's something like in fifa 2001, just change the direction and you don't even exist for the defender. Well that's all, i mean enough:) Peace!

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 03:39:AM
You are wrong bud, you know as well as i that pro evo will allways come out on top where it counts and that is gameplay. Yes EA have the licence and the flash graphics. But they also have terrible gameplay. Believe me i wish konami had the licence. As the fifa 08 demo clearly shows it's another wasted effort of the use of the licence given to them. Ea sports have had plenty of chances to get it right. How many fifa lovers are there(i being one once) who have supported ea over the years and have been continually let down, i tell you the day will come when people will say enough is enough. To be honest i would love for there to be two great football games out there, but alas there is only one, and i know it's not perfect but it still plays far better than ea's effort.:clapwap::clapwap:

Well, I was talking about Fifa 2008 on the 360 or PS3 which is totally different. If you tell me it doesn't look good you need glasses. And as for gameplay, it's an old argument. Very old. I consider WE9 my favorite footy game of all time I won't be blinded cause of it. Demand more from Konami. At least EA are trying (360 & PS3 that is) and it shows. NO MORE NEED TO SACRIFICE AUDIO, GFX,PRESENTATION, ETC. FOR GAMEPLAY ON THE 360 & PS3. IT"S UNACCEPTABLE. I bet you any money that Fifa 2008 on PS3, 360 will get overall better ratings than PES (nonfanboy reviews).

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 03:43:AM
Hold your judgemet until wee see what fifa '08 next-gen is like.

You never know, it could be the pes killer.


Are you guys too lazy to see the videos for the 360 & PS3????? It is totally different from PC, totally! Below is Miki23's impressions of both games and it sounds totally unbiased:

Hi fellas, just got back from Germany to my homeland Australia and wanted to post my impressions of both games.

If people remember, I posted one of the first impressions last year for FIFA 07 on 360 and subsequently for UEFA CL 06/07.

I was lucky enough to have had the opportunity to see FIFA 08 and PES 2008 in action in Leipzig, and have a proper hands on on both, and here are my impressions:

Since this is a FIFA forum, I'll keep PES comments to a minimum, so why not start with just a quick summary of PES.

PES fans will be happy with this installment as it definitely is what PES6 on 360 was suppose to be. It is sharp, full of incredible animations, excellent ball physics, some impressive faces and player models and what's most important it really plays well.
At first it seems like same ol' same ol', but as with any PES it grows on you after a while.
- It is less robotic than before, and I was most impressed with the animation. It really has to be seen, such an attention to detail.
- The game is a bit fast for my liking and for that very reason it seems more arcadey than the game actually is.
- Animation wise, like I already said, the game is incredible experience.
- Load times are minimal, no "black screens" after fouls, corners etc... get's you back in the action right away.
- I'm not a huge fan of the default ball (purple one) but ball physics are great. It bounces off like a real thing, and player reaction when hit by the ball is awesome.
- Net physics are impressive if not a tad too "springy".
- Shooting has been improved, it is more realistic than PES6, which had some ridiculous shots from 5 yards away (balooned in the sky for example)
- Flow of the game is very FLUID, it is as fluid as it gets...

At first 360 version looked to have an edge over PS3, which was quite surprising to me, however I realised that old Sharp screens used to demo PES on PS3 were to blame. Once I saw the game up and running on X series bravia's it looks pretty much identical as 360 version... Again, it may be slightly disappointing to hear that, as there were rumours that PS3 is a platform PES is built on and then ported on other platforms so seeing that it is the same thing as 360 might disappoing some PS fanboys.

The only concern I had graphics wise is some slowdowns during cut scenes, so let's hope Konai irons this out before game goes gold.


More importantly, the impressions of the FIFA 8 are very very positive. We all loved 07, at least the direction it was suppose to take the series. It was surely flawed, but definitely a move in the right direction. Well, it seems like EA finally arrived to that "right direction" with 08.
It is one incredibly impressive looking game, at FULL 1080p HD resolution and 60 fps for both PS3 and 360.
The game looks identical on both platforms which is great.

Details in 08 are stunning, I think even after months and months of playing it will keep people impressed. Animation is crazy. My wife thought it was a real match on Tele we were watching, even though she knew it was a game. So at times it really tricks.

Colours are much better than 07 washed out look, game is vibrant, with impressive lighting. Player models look better than ever, with kits that fold and become dirty/sweaty.

The menu looks pretty much the same as 07 and CL 06/07 which is not bad at all. The arena is now in the daylight, as opposed to a night arena that was in 07 and here I had a chance to check out the new tricks system and just play around with Ronaldhino.

The new tricks system is in a word GREAT.
I can't imagine better implementation of tricks in a football game than this. It is "logical", and it takes some getting used to. What is important is that you can't execute all the tricks with all players, there are some tricks like elastico, which only ronaldhino (and suppose a few other players) can do, at least I was able to pull off only with ronaldhino. Basic tricks are easy to execute and some more advanced naturally flow from here, but some of the really technical tricks are quite tricky to do and it is great to see that there is a balance in the actual execution of the tricks, and not just tapping the button or spinning the trick stick. So it will take time to master some of the more advanced tricks.
In a summary, tricks are back, better than ever and the look of these, feel and usability is absolutely spot on. It will make the game completely different to last year's installment.

Gameplay wise, it plays extremely well. Game is much much more responsive, and you feel more in control. It doesn't feel like players are on a rail and it is well done how players translate one animation into another. So controls are much better, which will be the first thing you notice when you play for the first time.

Shooting, crossing and passing is significantly improved and feels different than last year's game. Feels very natural and unscripted.

The pace is football perfect (as opposed to PES which is much faster than real football), and attention to detail is incredible.
For the sake, in PES for example when you are executing a free throw, and you start moving a player left or right, the player spins over his axis (i.e. it slides)... In Fifa 08, the player actually twists his upper body towards the player you want to throw the ball to with feet perfectly planted in the ground, then takes a couple of steps back and throws the ball. It looks amazing, and very realistic. This attention to detail will knock you off the ground. There is no sliding/treading in Fifa at all...

The ball feels more free than in 07, and it flows naturally from one player to another. Passing looks amazing, especially first touch passing. Manual passing has been improved from 07. Ball feels heavy enough and is convincing.

Shooting has been much improved, and shots off the ground finally look like they should, no more "funny" looking shots or jump shots like in 07. These are still in the game, but happen in the appropriate occasion.
The ball bounces off very realistically when you hit other players, so there is a definite distinction when the ball hits another human being and a post for example.
Sounds is as crazy as it always has been in Fifa.

A few problems that I found a bit disappoing were AI related, especially GK AI, as I scored a few cheap goals, AI players not responding to a ball that was just a meter away from them, and occasionally players not running towards the ball when you pass them, however an EA guy was quick to point out that the version we were playing is older than the one team is working on and that AI was one of the top on the list things to be balanced out before the game ships.
Let's hope they improve it.
On a more positive note, I haven't noticed ridiculous GK saves like when you shoot full power and GK just catches it like it was a cheap shot, instead GK punches the ball or just deflects it in the other way. This made close shots more interesting. Also, the GK l doesn't just magically deflect the ball to the opposition forward, which was case in 07 and some really cheap goals scored. Sliding tackes look incredible and animations when you knock a player will blow you away.

Another disappointment is net physics which are identical to last year's game. I don't know what's wrong with EA and net physics, last gen game had better net physics than next-gen game. It is quite funny to see a ball almost getting "sticky" to a net like it is a spider web not goal net. Oh well, we'll have to live with it I guess. But it does hurt overall slick presentation and spot on attention to details.
Fifa is definitelly not just tweaked version of 07. It certainly uses the same engine as a basis, but game feels, looks and plays like a completely different game, which is good of course.

I had just one match of be a pro and it looks like a great addition to a game. It is definitely something I will give a proper shot once the game ships. I was worried that it would be boring and not properly presented, but I was wrong, the camera is awesome and it you really get a feeling you are "in the game".



All in all, we will have 2 proper next-gen, and I dare to say, first next-gen football games worth it's next-gen name.

Both PS3 and 360 receive same treatment graphics, sound, gameplay wise so no fanboyism by the system.

Between PES and Fifa, both are incredibly enjoyable and you would be MAD not to get both. At least I will... And even if historically only played one or the other, you'll be happy with sticking to your choice, as both are an improvement to games before.

Football games are definitely stellar this year.

Here in Australia we usually get FIFA a week before EU release, so I'll come back mid-late September to post the impressions of a final game.

Till then, happy reading, and hopefully you get something out of this post.

Feel free to ask any questions you may have and I'll try to answer them.

P.S. Just a note to guys that I played Fifa 07 online last year, I had a bad experience with my 360 (6 consoles died on me) so I changed camps and you can find me on PSN...
Cheers.

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 03:44:AM
I'm sorry to say it out loud but ehm, you're ignorant. If you're telling me that, you actually think faces and the so called 'GFX' is better on FIFA then it's on PES/WE? Ahah, you're blind to say the least. PES3/4/5/6 have always had better grass textures and presentation on the field is so much more realistic but hey, the faces? Everyone knows that Konami makes faces much better than fifa 08. I recall Henry's face on PES3 and it's so much better looking than FIFA 08 is now, and it makes me laugh to look at any face here, rooney, saha, cristiano, it's so damn bad and they had so much time to work it out. FIFA will always have this scripted gameplay, and to be honest I hated PES6 for having similiar things and the X360 version was done with haste but it's still much better than every fifa put together. I'm not trying to buy a war here but such words are just vein. You can't possibly have played WE9 or you wouldn't talk like that. You're a fanboy and you're transparent as air.

You're an idiot and obviously a blind fanboy. Go collect your ************** money(H)

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 04:05:AM
I know that you guys don't speak Croatian so i'm not accusing anyone, but i think that promoting nazism isnt welcome on this site, just so you know sip has something written in his signature that is quite offensive and represents decades of hatred towards any well lets say almost any non-croatian, although its more hostile towards our closest neighbours, serbs, bosnians, and slovenians. I am a croat and i'm dissapointed for the image we're showing. Sram te bilo!

I was going to comment fifa.
Well i don't know what you guys are expecting, if you want a great game buy ps3 or xbox 360, and play that version of fifa. Everybody know that they're not bothering with this version, and that they put everything into the next gen version, this one only lives because some people dont have pc strong enough to play the next version on pc.
And when you look at it that way, fifa 08 is great, i loved fifa 07 and i expected an improoved version of that game and i like the improvements, i even like the pass, change player change, you easily and fast get used to it. And i see the purpose, more logical to have a button for that action separated so you have total control of what you want to do. At least for me it seems more logical, the free formation excites me a lot, but thats not available in the demo, i'm so excited to put a certain player where i want him!
Also the graphics are ok, again if you want better you better go for the next gen version cause current gen doesn't support those massive amounts of graphic quality. For me Fifa 07 was the best game i ever played, and Fifa 08 is only an improved version of that same game, need i say more. And yes i have played pes, and it just doesn't do it for me, that same gameplay you're all talking about, i mean if i can win 4-0 at highest difficulty the first time i play the game then i don't know why people say fifa is the one that's easy to score in. I will say only one thing i play fifa 07 since it came out about 1h minimal a day, and thats now 5 months back i played it 4 hours a day and i HAVEN'T SCORED THE SAME WAY ONCE! While in pes i did. I give fifa the chance i dont play to score i play to play beautiful football and when you play like that you see all that this game offers. When i saw how the players move in pes, i just put the joystick down. For me that game doesn't have nothing to do with real football, the crosses don't even look like something that happens in real football, while the defenders are soooooo easy to go past, i mean it's something like in fifa 2001, just change the direction and you don't even exist for the defender. Well that's all, i mean enough:) Peace!

They move like choppy marching robots

zulfaddhli
01-09-2007, 04:13:AM
The conclusion here is many people are down with this year of FIFA(maybe past version as well?)...:mad:
Cuz of the same-same & same graphics engine that been used in the game, no next-gen that been apply to 360 & PS3. In a first sight, it seems like the EA's staff doesnt make a correct experiment or survey for their product, how do the gamers like the game graphics, addapt of realm & the way the game is supposed & have to be, cuz every year is just the same; always been a problems & dissapointment. For me, EA should make this year of FIFA 08 in TWO version....

One is current-gen (for user with a LOW SYSTEM SPEC)
Second, next-gen (for user with a FAST SYSTEM SPEC)

So, EA just bugging the HIGH-SPEC PC user!
They put their money for the expensive graphic card & system but, can't experience it with they favourite game of all time.....of course FIFA.(H)

Deni_Rossonero
01-09-2007, 04:24:AM
They move like choppy marching robots
That's right so let somebody explain it to me how that is more football simulation than fifa! And i don't even want to start about the non existing manager mode! **** that's the best thing about fifa, not everybody want's to bother with the tiniest details of being a coach, the manager mode in fifa is the best blend of playing matches and doing only the interesting managerial stuff. So it gives you more reasons to play better and all leads to something. Without that i wouldn't play fifa the whole year, well certainly not that much! And where's that in pes, i mean where are the teams the leagues the players??!!! And their excuse is, people who play pes know that it's better cause they know football better - no comment :junior:

Al Pacino PT
01-09-2007, 04:34:AM
Fifa this year is much better than last year

Master Pi a Gi
01-09-2007, 04:35:AM
Fifa 08 is much better in my opinion better graphics gameplay is now excelent e see oponents in semi pro dribling me with roulettes the shots are more realistic the faces kits are much better in my opinion i say is almost the perfect game like they said the menu could be better but is better than the older one 07 looks to sad this is more estactic the people that just play 1 time dont see but start to play more and is much better than 07 i have to say that EA continues too improve the gameplay to get more dribles and new generation graphics and i say that is the Dream Fifa that we are waiting for

El Diablo Rojo
01-09-2007, 04:45:AM
Not much difference with '07 indeed, however the graphics look slightly better, or maybe i think so because the pitch looks like a pitch now. The movement improved very little not much changed out about moves, except that i didn't figure the control in throw ins yet i think they changed the button combination. I liked FIFA '07 but i don't see anything AMAZING in here to make me think this is better.

Master Pi a Gi
01-09-2007, 05:06:AM
The peoples only play one time dont see the game the keepers defend much better if the graphics only just look better because the pitch please tell what the texture have with the faces i dont now if you see but faces are in 2gf kits are much better and remember this is just a demo but i say i like a lot this fifa the gameplay changed a lot if you dont noted in more moves is because you dont know how to do it the defence is much better ok but if you are waiting for PES is new generation for pc you are wrong because is the same **** of ever e never saw that sporting lisbon runs very slowly and dont tell me that sporting dont have fast players nani was there and looked is ass was of metal because he runs nothing PES is the game that dont have a BWIN league and others leagues that are licensed because PES barely have licensed leagues and the songs of PES looks like japanese and fifa ae much better

MightyTic
01-09-2007, 05:13:AM
P4.2Ghz
1Gb DDR
X1650Pro 512Mb
80Gb HD (45Gb free spsce)

game set at High .. Normal Speed and 1820x1084 32bit


The demo , graphics ok animation doesn't look right the players arms and legs move far to fast it looks silly. The camera sway, I am,l as I type feeling sick, the way the camera moves back and forth as the ball is passed makes me feel sick after 5mins of play. The camera will be on a player as he passes the camera will stay on that player for a second then move as the pass either goes forward or back the way and I near barffed.

The ball still has that floating ballon feel to it , shooting ? like a speeding bullet, with Henry Eto and co a couple time as I got the ball just 10yrds inside the cpu with my back to goal I turned and instead of hitting pass by mistake I hit shoot the ball went like a rocket towards goals. And that was with very very little power the bar was just starting to show.


The AI , not as bad as 07 but you still get an AI player getting up to my box and turning away and running back for 30/40yrds no pass just running with it, in 07 I used to stand off the cpu players and watch what they did, you would get one in his own half twisting and turning weaving on the spot and drag backs and such. Now this would have been fine if he had someone on him and he was trying to beat them but my nearest player would be 20+yards from him.

As I said , not that bad in 08 but there is still some of it from the cpu team.


Pressing pass shoot and all still does not feel right either with the ball feeling ballon like or even the press of the button the it does feel like your hitting the shot pass or whatever.


I did the heel flick over my own head but don't know how I was flicking the stick through 360 don't know if I was holding shoulder buttons down?


From this demo for me it doesn't feel much different from 07, is it the PC version is not this Next Gen ? it should be PC have more power than a 360 or a PS3 if it is then I will wait and give it another try on a 360 or PS3 before judgeing EA but for now with the PC the demo would not make me want to rush out and buy it..

gamerguy350
01-09-2007, 05:23:AM
My Review of the Demo:

Haven't played much, but from what I can tell it's a bit of an improvement over 07.

Passing is better and feels much sharper. I like how much harder the passes are, better than PES in that respect. Not quite sure how the manual passing is supposed to work, maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Also not sure about the defensive controls, the right stick man changing is useless as it's hard to be precise, I just stick to the right trigger for change man and use pressure and 2nd man pressure. Couldn't figure out how to control my keeper with the right stick on breakaway's and free kicks, if someone will enlighten me on that issue it'd be great =)

Graphics are so so, a bit sharper textures maybe, and I like the new winter setting with the snow faintly falling, it's a nice touch.

Don't know what's going on with the shooting. Every shot seems to use the same animation, and it's like an outside of the foot shot with unbelievable power on it, doesn't look realistic at all. I haven't scored yet on amateur, and I'm used to trouncing the AI on Legendary. Every shot either goes wide or is fingertip saved by the keeper.

There's a few new sounds but nothing really noteworthy aside from some nice trumpet effects and some specialised player commentary ('Rooney won't be happy with that one' ; 'Ronaldo under pressure from the defense here').

Overall, a bit of an improvement over 07, aside from the shooting which is different, but not better or worse. Doesn't really seem worth buying if you have 07. I might pick it up for $20 but I certainly won't be paying full price. PES is still the benchmark for PC football gaming, and it looks like it'll stay that way in 08. Bring on PES 2008 and next-gen Fifa 09.

Graphics: 6/10
Sound: 9/10
Presentation: 9/10
Gameplay: 7/10
Overall: 7/10

Al Pacino PT
01-09-2007, 05:36:AM
im gonna say,pes have change graphics,because they still look the graphics are the same from pes 3

Al Pacino PT
01-09-2007, 05:46:AM
Pes 8
http://www.formulapc.net/~slc/pes8.jpg
Pes 3
http://www.gamer.hr/recenzije/pes3/velike/pes003.jpg
Oh my god,that looks the same ****

gamerguy350
01-09-2007, 06:00:AM
Dude this is the Fifa 08 Demo thread, please keep it on topic.

Al Pacino PT
01-09-2007, 06:07:AM
no,you come here with your 'analyses' and im gonna say,how much time you have played fifa,20 minutes of a part

arcturuz
01-09-2007, 06:09:AM
how do you change the graphical settings for this demo?
i mean it looks crappy on the default resolution, which i think is 800x600

Al Pacino PT
01-09-2007, 06:10:AM
use demo expander

Master Pi a Gi
01-09-2007, 06:21:AM
He wanted to say to the people that say that fifa aint changed a bit(i think that changed a lot) look at PEs aint tell how may years still the samee graphics gameplay is a update they take out some clubs and licensesome and put some new clubs update the transfers and is the new PES and everybdoy starts to say that changed a lot

Morphia_cn
01-09-2007, 06:25:AM
They move like choppy marching robots

When i saw how the players move in fifa06/07/08 (pc version) , i just press alt+f4 coz the players look like Extra-Terrestrial,especially the moves.

the gameplay on pc platform
pes6>fifa07,fifa08
pes2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fifa08

on xbox360 or ps3
fifa07 >>>>>> pes6
fifa08 = pes2008:clapwap:

caseira
01-09-2007, 06:33:AM
How many people made FIFA 08? One? Two? Cause there are so little improvement there. Yeap the name FIFA 07 2.0 is great for that! Not buying FIFA for the PC this year. If i had a 360 or ps3 i would.

free bet
01-09-2007, 06:39:AM
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OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 08:13:AM
P4.2Ghz
1Gb DDR
X1650Pro 512Mb
80Gb HD (45Gb free spsce)

game set at High .. Normal Speed and 1820x1084 32bit


The demo , graphics ok animation doesn't look right the players arms and legs move far to fast it looks silly. The camera sway, I am,l as I type feeling sick, the way the camera moves back and forth as the ball is passed makes me feel sick after 5mins of play. The camera will be on a player as he passes the camera will stay on that player for a second then move as the pass either goes forward or back the way and I near barffed.

The ball still has that floating ballon feel to it , shooting ? like a speeding bullet, with Henry Eto and co a couple time as I got the ball just 10yrds inside the cpu with my back to goal I turned and instead of hitting pass by mistake I hit shoot the ball went like a rocket towards goals. And that was with very very little power the bar was just starting to show.


The AI , not as bad as 07 but you still get an AI player getting up to my box and turning away and running back for 30/40yrds no pass just running with it, in 07 I used to stand off the cpu players and watch what they did, you would get one in his own half twisting and turning weaving on the spot and drag backs and such. Now this would have been fine if he had someone on him and he was trying to beat them but my nearest player would be 20+yards from him.

As I said , not that bad in 08 but there is still some of it from the cpu team.


Pressing pass shoot and all still does not feel right either with the ball feeling ballon like or even the press of the button the it does feel like your hitting the shot pass or whatever.


I did the heel flick over my own head but don't know how I was flicking the stick through 360 don't know if I was holding shoulder buttons down?


From this demo for me it doesn't feel much different from 07, is it the PC version is not this Next Gen ? it should be PC have more power than a 360 or a PS3 if it is then I will wait and give it another try on a 360 or PS3 before judgeing EA but for now with the PC the demo would not make me want to rush out and buy it..

My friend, do you know what type of PC it takes to run games like Fifa, Bioshock, HalfLife 2 at the quality, smoothness that the 360 does it? We're talking around a suped up $3000 USD PC! And that's fact. Ask the developers. so for those people wasting $500 USD or Euros on a graphics card....well, save your money and get a next gen console since PC's are always getting outdated. Nextgen consoles will deliver super smooth FPS's and great graphics for years to come instead of updating graphics cards every 3 months. Be wise.

OrgulloVikingo
01-09-2007, 08:19:AM
Do not confuse Fifa PC, PS2 version with the 360 & PS3 version. The 360, PS3 version sh!t all over any PES 2008 version and that will be obvious soon. PES 2008 looks and plays like PES3! Fifa 2008 = great grfx, presentation, audio, much much improved gameplay, online superiority especially the 5 vs. 5 online where you control 1 player and the Be a Pro Mode. PES fanboys, keep enjoying your rehashed PES3 versions. Konami is happy to have fans like you since that means they don't have to work hard to improve. Come to think of it, it's a good idea on their part! Whay work hard when they have people that are happy w/ the same game every year for 5 years? Next Gen rules!

VladoMontenegro
01-09-2007, 08:19:AM
You summed it up pefectly with your first post in this topic Vlado.

Let's hope pes2008 will give your €500 (£338) graphics card the workout it deserves. :amika:

And I hope you don't buy fifa '08 for the pc,it's time for us pc gamer's to stand up to these inept buffons ( no offence to inept buffoons) to show we are not going to take anymore of their silly ps2 garbage and we need to hurt them where it hurts them the most.

Hey THANKS Gaucho! Finally someone who understands what am I talking about. I played for 4 hours since my last post last night. I really tried... i did... But it looks and feels very very bad... Thats the fact... :(

VladoMontenegro
01-09-2007, 08:25:AM
My friend, do you know what type of PC it takes to run games like Fifa, Bioshock, HalfLife 2 at the quality, smoothness that the 360 does it? We're talking around a suped up $3000 USD PC! And that's fact. Ask the developers. so for those people wasting $500 USD or Euros on a graphics card....well, save your money and get a next gen console since PC's are always getting outdated. Nextgen consoles will deliver super smooth FPS's and great graphics for years to come instead of updating graphics cards every 3 months. Be wise.

U are wrong MY FRIEND! Those games u talk about can run on very cheap machines and on very expensive machines because u can set it in video settings. They are OPTIMISED for PC!! In Half Life u can turn off advanced features, hdr, aa, af, reflections and play it on cheap celeron with 6200 graphics card. But FIFA doesnt let u OPTIMISE video settings. Only 2 or thinks: resolution and textures, blah blah blah. For God's sake its only 22 players and a stadium. Take look at nba 08 graphics.
I play ES4 Oblivion at highest possible settings on widescreen with millions of polygons arround, and my brother plays it on a sucky pc after setting it for that pc. So FIFA never gives u a chance to make it look good.

Taking nokia n73. Playing mobile soccer. WOo Hoo its sooo much better that last year's. Great advancement in mobile gaming. Wooooo!!!!

ozivillan
01-09-2007, 09:13:AM
The 360, PS3 version sh!t all over any PES 2008 version and that will be obvious soon
what makes it obvious ?

Fifa 2008 = great grfx, presentation, audio
Yep you are right there, shame the whole game comes tumbling down in your statement below LOL
much much improved gameplay,
well that will have to be seen to be believed

I was looking to purchase FIFA 2007 360 over pes this season, but after wasting 470mb on the pc demo, i can't see there being a vast improvement on the next gen consoles, talk about EA ripping off it's loyal fan base with half baked PC version, the thing should be sold as a season add on, not a full priced rip off for what is basically a patch

cryptonx
01-09-2007, 10:07:AM
I can't stand playing this OLD gen demo ... 07 and 06 were bad enough

I didn't get my 8800GTS to see this crappy graphics .. made for low end systems ...

Maan

No Fifa 08 for me this year.

Please SIGN the Petition , Requeting the next gen Fifa to be released to PC this year or the next one .

http://www.petitiononline.com/fifa08ng/petition.html

Thank you !! Spread the word !

bacchus99
01-09-2007, 02:12:PM
The nets are the same crap semi invisible ones from last year. And why are the goalposts silver? How many bloody silver goalposts do you see around?

jjgadget
01-09-2007, 02:27:PM
This is what Fifa 07 should have been like:mad:
Its not fantastic but all the new touches are great and the gameplay is improved , as has the Ai. I actually eojoy this game , trying to build up play and outsmarting the Ai.

But.........apart from the positives I have mentioned EA have been very lazy as far as current gen is concerned ,you cant say they did not have enough TIME, STAFF or MONEY

Anyway its an improvment but one that could have come LAST year.........but maybe not enough.
Fifa 07 was absolute tripe:mad:......this is better the more I play the more I like it :$

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 02:31:PM
i agree that gameplay has improved, i currently play on the fastest and i like it, used Demo Expander to change the game speed

Dr3am3r
01-09-2007, 03:22:PM
Im playing on :

P IV @ 3.0 Ghz
Windows XP
1.5 GB of RAM ( need an extra stick to run in dual mode)
and get ready.... ATI Radeon 9550 256mb - beast of a card i know.

just wondering what rest of you PC gamer have.

jjgadget
01-09-2007, 03:25:PM
I am playing on :


P4 3.0ghz,
Windows XP,
2 gb Ram,
Radeon x1900xtx.:jacko:

works for me:p

Mattwinter
01-09-2007, 03:45:PM
I can't stand playing this OLD gen demo ... 07 and 06 were bad enough

I didn't get my 8800GTS to see this crappy graphics .. made for low end systems ...

Maan

No Fifa 08 for me this year.

Please SIGN the Petition , Requeting the next gen Fifa to be released to PC this year or the next one .

http://www.petitiononline.com/fifa08ng/petition.html

Thank you !! Spread the word !

They aren't going to change this in fifa 08, it's too late - and I'm pretty sure they've already said there will only be one version of fifa next time (so next-gen will be on PC/Xbox 360 and PS3 and there will be on PS2 or Xbox versions)

My first thoughts on the demo - there are some decent improvements, I think the game looks quite a bit better, and the gameplay has been tweaked a bit - also commentary is improved. The Winter mode feature is nice, and I'm sure the 'be a pro' feature will be fun.

It certainly is similar to 07 though, and it's evident that a lot of their effort has gone into the next-gen versions - bit of a waste of time IMO.

Hopefully all the new teams in the database will be in the final game, if this is the case it would mean there has been quite a bit of work into expanding the number of teams and giving the game more diversity.

I will buy it, but mainly for the A-league and 'be a pro' mode.

the end
01-09-2007, 03:51:PM
i know that this is fifa tread , but i must say that 2nd picture of pes2008 is actualy screenshoot of pes6 , and it will be nextgen in more directions beside grafich ( more fluid gameplay bether comentari and etc. )