View Full Version : Kitmaking question thread (questions about how to improve your kitmaking)
Sundsvall 03-09-2007, 12:21:AM Welcome to the kitmaking questions thread! this is the place where you can ask the pro's everything about kitmaking and how to do. Feel free to ask anything here, either to a specific kitmaker or just ask everybody! the meaning of the thread is simply to help kitmakers getting better :)
Interista13 03-09-2007, 03:10:PM Hello guys! I would like to start creating kits on the new template, but first I have a question. I have some kits that I made under the 07 template, and, like some of you, I want to keep those kits and not start all over again from scratch because of a new template. My question is this: Is there any way I can convert my 07 kits into the 08 template? I put a lot of work into them (for a beginner) and I don't want to start from scratch.
Thank you very much!!
Geneus 03-09-2007, 03:35:PM Hi guys, this looked like the only place I could ask questions so I am posting here. I am new to this editing, in the sense of creating my own kits (and boots) but have always used the in-game editor to the max in previous games. But reading this forum it is clear things can be taken much further. I would like to start making my own kits (and boots) but also importing them into my games. Does ne1 know where I can go to get some advice on how to start out. Thanks for any help ne1 can give to point me in the right direction.
Interista13 03-09-2007, 03:38:PM Hi guys, this looked like the only place I could ask questions so I am posting here. I am new to this editing, in the sense of creating my own kits (and boots) but have always used the in-game editor to the max in previous games. But reading this forum it is clear things can be taken much further. I would like to start making my own kits (and boots) but also importing them into my games. Does ne1 know where I can go to get some advice on how to start out. Thanks for any help ne1 can give to point me in the right direction.
Check the tutaorials that have been posted ;)
Also, you might want to start out with some basic designs and then grow from there ;)
Take these people's advice, because they will REALLY help A LOT ;)
That's all I can tell you.
P.S. Guys, please answer my question :)
Sundsvall 03-09-2007, 04:11:PM Hello guys! I would like to start creating kits on the new template, but first I have a question. I have some kits that I made under the 07 template, and, like some of you, I want to keep those kits and not start all over again from scratch because of a new template. My question is this: Is there any way I can convert my 07 kits into the 08 template? I put a lot of work into them (for a beginner) and I don't want to start from scratch.
Thank you very much!!
hi mate! you can do it in 2 pretty simple ways.
1. if you created the kits with vectors, you can simply take all vectors from the 07 front and resize it to the 08 front's size and drag the objects from the 07 template to the 08.
2. if you have made it another way, with pen tool etc, i'd suggest you to merge the kit and then copy the front and paste it into the fifa 08 texture. then transform it (ctrl+T) into the 08 size. ok,now you have a merged and blurry front, but this is just made as a template, so now you create the design again, having the merged front as help so you know where to drag your new lines :)
thats how i would do,maybe someone else have other options!
Interista13 03-09-2007, 04:52:PM hi mate! you can do it in 2 pretty simple ways.
1. if you created the kits with vectors, you can simply take all vectors from the 07 front and resize it to the 08 front's size and drag the objects from the 07 template to the 08.
2. if you have made it another way, with pen tool etc, i'd suggest you to merge the kit and then copy the front and paste it into the fifa 08 texture. then transform it (ctrl+T) into the 08 size. ok,now you have a merged and blurry front, but this is just made as a template, so now you create the design again, having the merged front as help so you know where to drag your new lines :)
thats how i would do,maybe someone else have other options!
Thanks a ton Sundsvall, you're very helpful, I will try your advice.
Does anyone have other opinions? I would really appreciate them, as I would like to keep improving by amking more kits and sharing them with you guys!
Would it also be possible to wait for Rinaldo's CM 08, and just use that to convert the kits?
Geneus 03-09-2007, 05:47:PM Thanks for pointing me in the right direction Interista, I will go from there!;)
pkbomb 03-09-2007, 05:56:PM i dont think there will be a kit master to transform 07 to 08 kits because now the kit format is very diferent from years ago but maybe he can find a way
sundsvall is right if u have the design you can convert it like that i did it and then changed the logos coz they were blurry and some parts but i had them in vectors too :P
Interista13 03-09-2007, 06:03:PM Hey, pkbomb, so you did what Sundsvall did? And also, I'm just wondering, what program do you use? Photoshop?
pkbomb 03-09-2007, 06:10:PM i use Corel PhotoPaint
luquinhas_26 03-09-2007, 06:20:PM please, can anyone make
a template with a legend
telling what part of the
photo is what in the kit!!!
thank you
Sundsvall 03-09-2007, 08:42:PM please, can anyone make
a template with a legend
telling what part of the
photo is what in the kit!!!
thank you
http://soccergaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2390962&postcount=4
luquinhas_26 04-09-2007, 12:11:AM http://soccergaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2390962&postcount=4
thank you
and sorry, because i really hadn't see it
and believe, i looked for!!!
:D
Andecal23 08-09-2007, 03:50:PM Just a simple question. Which black (numbers ex:212121) do you guys use. Because at this moment I use normal black (000000) and instead of multiply I use linear light with the fill at 17%, only for the black parts. But sometimes that's a lot of work.
fcafreak 08-09-2007, 04:03:PM 1e1e1e is good
mogolos 09-09-2007, 02:11:PM Sorry, have a mabe stupid favor to ask for: is it easy to have some suggestions about which parts of collar in the little square represent the front of the collar, which the inside part and which the back??? it would be useful enough if u could add some advices with pics, that could help a lot of guys, as i notice that many kitmakers leave the square without design or make wrong lines at all. thanks in advance, Mogolos.
Putte11 09-09-2007, 11:07:PM I tried to make a kit for my swedish favorit team, GAIS. What do you think? and what should i imoprove?
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2913/gaisproj3armsloggofy9.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaisproj3armsloggofy9.jpg)
mogolos 12-09-2007, 02:39:AM this thread seems to be dead before grow up... anyway, possitive effort!
Dipanjan 12-09-2007, 03:02:PM good work Putte.
Mikkie_ua 13-09-2007, 01:42:PM Can semeone make some screens of my kit for me ? I have troubles with importing them, so I have made this kit without testing it in game. I know, that it needs some corrections, but cannot make them now. Thanks.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6663/dkso8.th.png (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dkso8.png)
Spidercyb 13-09-2007, 11:41:PM sorry to all moderators, but i don`t know if this question can be post here.
I need to know what it`s the Enkopings SK (Swedish superttan league) jersey sponsor.
somebody can tell me please
Sundsvall 14-09-2007, 09:37:AM sorry to all moderators, but i don`t know if this question can be post here.
I need to know what it`s the Enkopings SK (Swedish superttan league) jersey sponsor.
somebody can tell me please
yes, it is http://www.sverigepumpen.se/
LeonVir 14-09-2007, 02:05:PM I want to know how to do a texture. I saw Kitmakers posting new textures and I want to Know how they makes the texturs, are thay starts from 0% or make it with pics of shirts ?
tanks in advance , and sorry about my bad english.
Spidercyb 14-09-2007, 03:34:PM thnxs Sundsvall
Silencer 18-09-2007, 02:08:AM Can someone tell me the numbers for the collars, which number means what collar to be more precise?
0= round
1= etc..
Cheers (Y)
DAVER&Caly 24-09-2007, 03:53:AM long time no see..Alex!do you have fifa08 o.file?I very need it`````
hi
can someone tell me if this see ingame or just in oedit? 10x
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01ka6.jpg
Thomsy17 30-09-2007, 05:18:PM Hi!
I have a big problem. I dont know, what's the Liverpool home kit's ID, and i dont know, that this big file is in which zdata?Or is there any program, what put the kits into the fifa08?(kitraptor 07 crashed my fifa08) If somebody can help me please write it!
Silencer 30-09-2007, 06:36:PM KitRaptor 08 will be released any day now so wait for that one.
Liverpool ID is 9 btw ;)
SlowHand 30-09-2007, 09:13:PM i dont' remember if sbdy asked this before
are the logos on the shirts suposed to be mirrored like before?
crswind17 30-09-2007, 09:36:PM no, you don't have to mirror anything :)
SlowHand 01-10-2007, 03:34:AM great, thx
good advice for all the new makers
cand anyone tell me what the adidas design is on hamburg home, newcastle home ,and milan home ? ... is it aquilla ?
thanks !
SlowHand 01-10-2007, 04:16:PM nope, it's not aquila
that's the one for argentina home for ex.
ok, anyone who knows please ?
nevergiveup 01-10-2007, 09:15:PM Hi guys!
how do you do with the texture layers. How do you organise them? Do you have one, two or even three layers? Do you have Multiply to all of them?
vannucchi 02-10-2007, 09:29:AM Can semeone make some screens of my kit for me ? I have troubles with importing them, so I have made this kit without testing it in game. I know, that it needs some corrections, but cannot make them now. Thanks.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6663/dkso8.th.png (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dkso8.png)
Wait a moment I'll make a ss for you,your Kit is very nice~
Waiting for your away kit and goalie one :clapwap:
add the screen shot which Mikkie_ua need you can watch them in this thread
http://www.juventus.com.cn/ShowPost.asp?ThreadID=36973
kastriot 04-10-2007, 10:14:AM Has anyway to import 1024x1024 kits???
crswind17 13-10-2007, 03:30:PM i don't know if this is the right thread to ask but, does anyone have this logo in a better quality?
The name is Estar Holding
http://www.tdestar.ru/common/img/logo_td.gif
TheUerba 21-10-2007, 04:45:PM Sorry guys if I seem a little stupid here, but I'm a complete beginner and know nothing about making kits. To start off what programs should I use, are there any free ones available? How do I get these kits into the game? If anyone could help, I'd be very thankful.
Interista13 21-10-2007, 04:47:PM Well mate, for programs, people usually use Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro (PSP), however, IMO it's not very good...
Do you have any program like that?
Hope to help you mate! ;)
TheUerba 21-10-2007, 08:36:PM I do have access to Photoshop.
Ashman23 26-10-2007, 11:43:AM I have been reading the tutorials and I'm confused (What else is new). How do I change the colour on a kit and keep the folds and textures, I've lowered the transparency of a colour, but then it looks to 'weak'. I realize I probably need to make it as part of a layer but it just overrides everything else. I'm using Photoshop 7.0 , when I select my colour I make sure the keep shape layers button is highlighted, then when I drag my rectangle tool over the kit the whole colour just changes to my colour and therefore wiping out the textures below. What am I'm doing wrong?
Interista13 26-10-2007, 09:04:PM Ok, mate, if I understood your question, there are 2 ways you could solve this. When you work with a template, as you know, the template is one layer. To color it, you create a new layer, and fill it with a color or colors. As you know, the color will then pretty much overlay the texture because the layer with color is above the one with the texture. So, you click on the layer with the color, and set it to MULTIPLY. The reason you cannot see the template is because the color layer is set to NORMAL.
Another way is to make a new layer BELOW the layer with the template and color it. In this case, the color won’t show, so click on the layer with the Template, and set that to MULTIPLY.
The 2nd way is a much better method! Remember, when you make kits, put all the layers with the colors, logos, etc. BELOW the layer with the template and set the template to MULTIPLY.
That’s all I know. Hope that helps mate! ;)
Ashman23 27-10-2007, 12:59:AM OK, got it to work (not actually sure how) but I'm getting the hang of it. the multiply and layering part had confused me. Now I can have a go myself.
Thanks heaps.
Hello, everyone. I'm a complete noob when it comes to Kit editing. Could someone please explain what parts of the designs go on which part of the kits in gameplay? thanks
Ashman23 27-10-2007, 04:30:AM http://soccergaming.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2390962&postcount=4
Has been posted on this thread before. I think this is what you want.
highbury55 31-10-2007, 06:09:AM This question is about importing kits. How do I import a kit of a created club? Is it possible to do it through kit working?
thelordspawn 04-11-2007, 07:19:AM This question is about importing kits. How do I import a kit of a created club? Is it possible to do it through kit working?
Myx knows how and ive been trying to ask him for awhile now but he isnt replying. i made a home away 3rd and gk kits for ym created team also created an emblem for my created team. and cant import them.
all i know is you have to somehow find the created teams team id than add the Id with team name to "teams.ini" file for kit raptor than u can import them.
but i dont know how to find the team id of created clubs as they arent in fifa.db
its possible but only myx knows
Interista13 05-11-2007, 08:55:PM Hello mates!
I had a question about a kit. As I think many of you know, I have made France Home and GK. I would like to make the Away also, but I do not know how i should get that red white and blue effect on the front of the shirt.
Can anyone please help me? I would really appreciate it! :)
bybuti 05-11-2007, 09:21:PM here you have mate, something like this
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8581/23oy5.jpg
1. take gardient tool
2. it will open gardient tool windows when you chose a color like i did in photo
3. make a shape and put a color
4. just make some lines in vertikal, like you think that its easier way :)
ask if you dont understand :)
the result
http://store.worldcupblog.org/upload/france_away_300.jpg http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4142/22qr6.jpg
Interista13 05-11-2007, 10:44:PM Ah, ok mate! Thanks a lot! i will try this right now! I have made the France away, but now I will try to add this in.
Thanks again! :)
EDIT: Yeah, I tried it, however it is a bit hard since my Photoshop is OLD...and it doesn't have the features yours does. :(
But I made a similar one, check my kit thread in a few minutes to see it! (and leave a comment also, hehe...)
highbury55 12-11-2007, 08:18:AM If You ever find out could you let me know? That would be greatly appreciated =]
alecalil 14-11-2007, 05:01:PM MINIKITS QUESTION
Hi FRIENDS.............HELP-ME
How do I change the white background in the minikits Ex: Albinoleff.....Check the image:
www.myimg.de/?img=FIFA0820071114132132f013f.png
thx
lessthansc 15-11-2007, 05:24:PM hey people, is there a kit master that includes fifa 08 already? cuz i still play fifa 06 and i use the kit master to convert fifa 07 kits to fifa 06 but it doesnt includes fifa 08 obviously so i was wonderin if theres a new kit master so i can use fifa 08 kits into fifa 06...or if there any other way to it please let me know.
thanks
Ashman23 24-11-2007, 10:49:PM Short answer, no.
Ashman23 26-11-2007, 05:29:AM I've finally plucked up the courage to have a go at a kit. Sparta Prague seemed quite easy so here we go. Very basic, don't pick on me too much, LOL. I know there's no collar, something for me to work on.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/258/spartapragueai8.th.png (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spartapragueai8.png)http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4387/spartapragueawaycopyei2.th.png (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spartapragueawaycopyei2.png)
I've had a crack at the Nike logo on the socks which is a bit crooked, is there a ruler tool in photoshop to help align those sorts of things or is it trial and error, the kits look pretty reasonable in the game if I say so myself.
Interista13 29-11-2007, 03:46:AM Guys, please I need your help, kitmakers(or anyone that knows)!
Please look at 42%vol's kit thread and look at his Parma Errea GK kit for example...
What must you do using Photoshop to get those lines to look like seams like he has done on his Parma GK? Can anyone please tell me?
I am asking because I need to know to accomplish my next kitpack...
Thank you for helping me! :D
DarkStranger59 10-12-2007, 02:37:AM How do you make logos look clean and crisp? Are you using downloaded logos whose size is nearest the size for the kit? Are you using the largest logo you can find and reducing it? When I resize anything it, of course, loses its crispness. All I know to do to correct this (in Photoshop) is to use the blur filters to reduce the jaggies and the the sharpen filters to sharpen the edges of the logo; I also edit the pixels if necessary. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks...
Interista13 10-12-2007, 02:42:AM Hmm...well when I look for logos I try to find some pretty big ones, but if sometimes you can't that is no big deal...
For kit maker logos like nike or adidas go to brandsoftheworld.com ....they have the cleanest logos there...
Also, what version of Photoshop do you use? I know in 5.5 or higher all you must do to resize a logo is press CTRL and T (I think) And then you can resize it. If you want the logo to keep it's proportions, press SHIFT while you're resizing...
When you're done, the program should automatically make the logos nice...
Hope that helps...maybe I could help a bit more if I knew what program you are using...
DarkStranger59 10-12-2007, 02:54:AM I'm using Photoshop 7.0. Like you, I try to find the largest logos online and I got some from "brandsoftheworld" (I think they're in eps format); they were definitely the best. My problem is reducing a logo to a very small size and keeping it crisp and readable. It seems like it blurs a good bit. So, I've been actually editing the pixels in the logo to clean it up and make it more readable.
Also, do you use fonts for certain logos or for writing on a kit like on the Lecce kits you just released? I'm talking about the writing, "lachifarma" on the front of the shirt.
Another problem I had on Grenoble was that the 3d model distorts some logos badly. I couldn't find a blank kit template here that doesn't distort just below the collar on the front of the shirt. Grenoble has "hummel" there. I guess you'd have to edit the 3d model to get rid of that. Thanks.
Interista13 10-12-2007, 03:00:AM Hmmm, no mate, to my knowledge there isn't really anything you can do to sharpen a really small logo...just look at the Serie B badge of the long sleeve of my kits...very blurry...
Well, when I can't find a certain writing, I usually write it myself, in the font that looks closest to the actual one. The "lachifarma" logo on my Lecce I found on Google Images...so I didn't write it...
However on my Grosseto...on the front it says "SPONSOR UFFICIALE" in an arch. That I had to create since no logo had that...lucky for me it came out very nicely to the real thing.
And lastly, just so you know, the FIFA 08 kit mapping is HORRIBLE...very many distortions...especially around the collar and shorts (OMG, the shorts!)...but there's noting you can do about that...it's all the fault of the lazy EA kitmakers who were to lazy to map the model properly...(look at the PES model...PERFECT...every kit is PERFECT)
Hope that helps ;)
DarkStranger59 10-12-2007, 03:11:AM Thanks. That helps alot. It's good to know that others have the same problems because of the 3d model.
I've never played PES, but I'll get Winning Eleven when it's released here and give it a go. I hear it's very good.
Interista13 10-12-2007, 03:48:AM I've never played PES, but I'll get Winning Eleven when it's released here and give it a go. I hear it's very good.
Meh, depends on who you are. I don't want to get off-topic but IMO it's not so fantastic as people wanted it. But it still is awesome! ;) If you want my 'review' just PM me! ;)
Gabrieltfa 07-01-2008, 11:43:PM It forgives to ask for helps the yours, but it is that I did not obtain to understand the tutorial one. he is that in the hour and to make kits, the images as they soon team and soon of the sponsor are over template being without details, but, if together I eat template pra to be detailed as the kit is thus, tries to understand:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4156/ajudanoskitsfl3.jpg
then it wanted to know if yours kit makers can help it to me leaves kits detailed?
colored as in detailed and equal example 1 and as in example 2.
samueljuarezf 08-01-2008, 12:42:AM Copy the layer of the template in a brand new 768*768 photoshop document
Then, THAT layer, set it to "Linear Burn" then, set it ALWAYS on top of the other layers, you dont have to move it from there anymore. Then add whatever logos and things to your kit. Maybe, to make easier your first time, try to copy a simple kit -BTW don't release it :p- to realize what patterns you should take care of when you make a kit
Good luck!
thelordspawn 08-01-2008, 01:05:AM if you are trying to make the kit a different color make a new layer use paint bucket put with the color you want and fill that area (make sure you select the area you want to color with polygonal lasso tool). then change setting from "normal" to "linear burn" and you should get the color you want.
than right click the template layer and click "merge visible"
than add your emblem(s).
Gabrieltfa 08-01-2008, 01:34:AM thanks guys i will try. ;)
per75005 30-03-2008, 09:04:AM Hi everybody!!!! don't know if I'm in the right place, but I didn't want to start a new thread for that....
I have a small problems with AC Milan Kits :
1_ I downloaded AC Milan Kits
2_ They appear in CM08
3_ In fifa 08 the default Fifa kits didn't change
4_ I have only this problem with AC Milan
Could someone explain me what is the problem....
Thk in advance
bruno167 13-06-2008, 03:28:PM Hi guys. I am trying to make some simple kits but i have some problems with logos. In the oedit preview they look very disorted.
What should be the size of the logos so they look more clean?
Sundsvall 13-06-2008, 03:31:PM that depends on what part the logo is placed.
front and back - 50% of the height
socks - normal size
shorts - not sure, kind of normal size, maybe a lil bit taller
reboot1205 15-06-2008, 05:33:PM http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3550/chelseaawayfantasyds1.th.png (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chelseaawayfantasyds1.png)
This is my first kit,hope you like it,how can I improve my kitmaking?
(Click on the thumbnail to display it,because imageshack lol)
AlJesus 30-06-2008, 12:54:PM Hi , there is some way to convert 2007 kits to 2008 kits?, i didnt found a kit master 08 in the net. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance.
Greetings! (H)
Super Cow 19-07-2008, 12:52:AM I've never done kit making or anything of the sort
I dont even know where to begin: I wanna make a kit with vertical stripes ( like Juventus ). how do I keep the wrinkles and stuff? I really dont know what to do at all, kind of new in using photoshop.
barboza09 30-07-2008, 01:28:AM hi.. sorry if this is not the place to do this question but i dont know where to do it... how i do to import a kit? i use the kit raptor but when the game start to load for a game it have a problem and doesn´t work anymore.. what should i do to solve this? thank you... sorry for my english..
Sundsvall 30-07-2008, 02:37:AM I've never done kit making or anything of the sort
I dont even know where to begin: I wanna make a kit with vertical stripes ( like Juventus ). how do I keep the wrinkles and stuff? I really dont know what to do at all, kind of new in using photoshop.
look at the tutorials..
Hey !
My Question: How can I see which one is the LEFT sock of a kit Ingame ?
I have a kit were I wanna change only the LEFT sock, is that possible ? Or is it mirrored ?
Thanks for any Help ...
ibefelipe 07-09-2008, 12:13:AM have someone tutorial of how make textures for template?
ansariaamir_leo 08-10-2008, 03:32:PM Same as above... Can someone please post a tutorial on how to make the textures on the template... It'll be really helpful...
ibefelipe 13-10-2008, 04:49:AM yeah someone please post a tutorial on how to make the textures on the template!
Thanks .
benynvk 16-07-2009, 04:46:AM Hello to you .. I'm Vietnamese.
I am a Newbie, so the main problems KIT for FIFA 08 I do not know completely.
So when I have a KIT under png format, the next is I will do? You can read more instructions for me?
Thanks a lot.
fe007 17-08-2009, 10:27:AM Hi im new here at Soccergaming Forums. Could anyone please help me? Is there a way to add customs kits that I make to the custom teams that I create?
Paisa666 18-08-2009, 11:58:PM Hi im new here at Soccergaming Forums. Could anyone please help me? Is there a way to add customs kits that I make to the custom teams that I create?
Hmmm, im thinking its possible with Creation Master 08 :)
Just look for the team you just created in Cm 08 and add the new kit :)
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