It will be hard to remain constructive, but I will try my best.

First of all, I would like to ask you all which user platform has made EA thrive over the last decade? Which platform users remained loyal to EA, through the ups and downs? Yes, the PC users.

It's like a long marriage and now EA has literally dumped us for a younger, hotter chick... the console.

It's been a decade now that I for one remained faithful to EA even though I've been disappointed on some releases. I can tell you, however, that for a few years now it's been a tough ride.

People who recommend others of "moving on" or buying a next-gen console are missing the fact that most of us aren't ready to buy a 500$ gaming console to play one game.

To lay to rest the debate on consoles being better than PCs, PCs have better performance and better hardware. There are reasons to why consoles may run better for games but it's as simple as to looking as far as the operating system. Consoles really don't have one, it's more or less an "enhanced" system bios chip. Where as a computer has A LOT more going on than just the game running. And that is simply just the tip of the iceberg on that topic.

I won't ever own a newer console, mainly because I refuse to pay more money to just have a console, which is just a computer anyways, to game on. My computer is much more than just a game center. It does my work, as well as my entertainment. A console, just games. It's not really what I call a smart purchase.

We've already seen many bugs in the FIFA 08 demo. And not a lot of promise has been made of the PC version. In fact, I haven't seen one game play video of the game on current gen prior to the release of the demo. There wasn't even any information on the PC version of the game. Playing the demo, I feel that the graphics have not changed since 2006. The game play has improved a little but is no where near the 360 and PS3 versios.

Outdoing the PS3 and 360 is not an impossible task. As there are many very nice games for the PC. And according to a recent poll on which platform forum users are buying the game on shows that the PC is still the second most popular platform. So if this is all a marketing and deals scheme, what happened to supply and demand?

It's clear we are being cheated big time. Now that we have helped EA poise themselves over the past years as a major developer for new consoles, now that we have served EA as guinea-pigs for so many years, we are being dumped for there are hot chick consoles that will cash-in for the best games while we, PC users, bite the dust..

PS: This Post Was Made By An Angry Guy I Don't Know His Name And I Read This And Posted It Here.

There's nothing really to add on this.
I think that it should be posted in every gaming forum so EA will find out what most ppl think about their attitude and their way of "thinking".

no one gives a **** about PC version of fifa and never did number of console fifa players outnumber pc players 1000 times. thats why the fcous on consolemore and next gen more.

it not our fault ur to poor to afford a PS3/xbox 360/ wii. pc is no longer the best platform for games. deal with it. if ur to lazy to buy or cant afford any of the consoles or if u prefer pc over console (which only retards do) thats your problem ostop bitching.

pc is just about obsolete for sport games. stop crying cause ur a noob without a console.

also this demo is an old version of the game. so the AI isnt even close to the final versions AI. the final version is going to be alot different gameplay wise.

also they dont have time to focus on last gen its waste of time. it doesnt take long to make $500 2 weeks pay from work buys it. wow o so long. its a one time price u pay. if youre "not ready" to move on to the next gen thats your problem. and id rather spend $500 on a console than $2000-$3000 on a PC not including updating your graphics card, RAM, HDD size etc. PC is alot more expensive than a console u gotta update your PC often to play the newest games without any lag and at top quality. so logically a next gen console is ALOT cheaper than a PC.so think smart and buy a PS3. so u dont have to worry about paying lots of money to update it ever so often. so its runs games and top quality and speeds.

no one gives a **** about PC version of fifa and never did number of console fifa players outnumber pc players 1000 times. thats why the fcous on consolemore and next gen more.

it not our fault ur to poor to afford a PS3/xbox 360/ wii. pc is no longer the best platform for games. deal with it. if ur to lazy to buy or cant afford any of the consoles or if u prefer pc over console (which only retards do) thats your problem ostop bitching.

pc is just about obsolete for sport games. stop crying cause ur a noob without a console.

also this demo is an old version of the game. so the AI isnt even close to the final versions AI. the final version is going to be alot different gameplay wise.

Wow...Someone has issues...o_O;

As far as spending money goes, the xbox 360 costs $399 here in Canada, but to buy a computer that would be able to run the next gen fifa08 would cost me far far more than that. A video card alone is probably around $200 and then you throw in the CPU and the rest and the console becomes a much cheaper solution.

So I keep my computer for work and the xbox handles the entertainment.

As far as loyal PC users go, there are many many PC users who are not loyal at all and who just download the pirated games. I'm sure there are many of such people on these forums right now and I'm sure that that is a huge reason as to why EA didn't try too hard with the PC version of the game this year. I know for a fact that game piracy is the reason to why the Russian league isn't included in the game. Most people there get pirated copies of the game and it didn't make sense for EA to include that league and appeal to fans who don't pay them so they went with the inferior (no offense) Irish, Czech and Australian leagues..

its fact. not "issues" deal with it. i hate when morons like u come and bitch. for stupid reasons

EDIT: leafer summed it up nice

leafer01,maybe you're right about the piracy matter but how about ps2?They don't put any effort at all about ps2 either.(at least that's my opinion)

thelordspawn:
Me?A moron?Have you checked your posts...?
About bitching...Aren't you bitching about some ppl who have a different opinion than you...?

So,other than that.You know,if i wanted to buy ps3 i could do it even tomorrow.I have the money and i'd like to play fifa08 in next gen.What i don't like is to buy a new console for just one game.Also i don't like the way of thinking:"You have to buy ps3 to see a really new version of fifa." like EA is telling us with one way or another.
Other than that,speaking about acting smart,personally i do see vedeogames as an entertainment but with that money i could find something even better than a virtual soccer,you know what i mean?
So,the point is that EA finally worked on FIFA and now they expect us to pay for it like it's made from gold.
So,it's not about the money.I just don't feel like getting fooled.

Always my opinion offcourse.

(In your next posts try to be more polite,thanks.)

no one gives a **** about PC version of fifa and never did number of console fifa players outnumber pc players 1000 times. thats why the fcous on consolemore and next gen more.

it not our fault ur to poor to afford a PS3/xbox 360/ wii. pc is no longer the best platform for games. deal with it. if ur to lazy to buy or cant afford any of the consoles or if u prefer pc over console (which only retards do) thats your problem ostop bitching.

pc is just about obsolete for sport games. stop crying cause ur a noob without a console.

also this demo is an old version of the game. so the AI isnt even close to the final versions AI. the final version is going to be alot different gameplay wise.

''too poor to afford a PS3/xbox 360/wii''

How is it that people like you live, if i was your father i'd flush you into the toilette you when you first spoke. These are the ones that start the wars people, these are the ones that would kill you for a dime. I spit on you! - :) this is just perfect for this occasion

How old are you 14, is there any wonder society is the way it is. Some guy puts his opinion on this forum and get's slated for doing so.
There is no wonder this forum is no longer as popular as it once was, mainly due to an arrogant malcontent who cannot respond with a civilised answer. :(

yeah tooo poor theres no logic in rather playing it on PC than a console when u have to spend ALOT mroe on your computer than you would on a console so spending more money on something that is not even as good as the other makes no sense. unless they cant afford it. plus you act like FIFA is the only game on PS3 most if not all games. on PC are also on consoles. not to many games are PC only. there a quite a bit of amazing games on PS3 right now. example Warhawk. almost the best game i have ever played probably.

also online gaming on PS3 is godlike theres no lag at all you wont notice the difference between single player and multiplayer online (that is if you have a good connection). only time it lags is if people have ****ty connections like dial up or something happens to their connection. but 98%of the time its flawless. PS3 is a must get the

games are amazing the graphics are amazing. online is amazing. plus PS3 is not like ****box 360 or wii theres lots of other things u can do. browser internet and do w/e u want there. play music videos put ur photos on there. etc. play blue-ray movies, dvd,s with 1080p upscaling or w/e its called play PS2 and PS1 games (online works fine).

PS3 isnt just a gaming console its a entertainment centre its multy purpose. thats why PS3 is so amazing. and worth all the money. if u were to get all the functions of a PS3 in seperate machines (which u can get in seperate machines) it wold costs thousands. a blue ray player alone is over $1000. thats just the blue-ray player. dont even need to say more. also the ability to be able to control your Ps3 form anywhere in the world is awsome. i can play my music videos and look at my photos that are on my PS3 from my PSP ANYWHERE in the world that has a wireless connection. which is really cool. its like have a PSP with 60GB of data (or alot mroe if u use a higher storage HDD).

so the PS3 is very very versatile also theres firmware upgrades that add new stuff and functionality to the PS3. which makes it even better.

this is why you should make the Switch to Ps3. **** xbox 360 and wii. PS3 is the ****.

u can buy a HD TV and a PS3 and still spend like 500 less than just the computer. and you still gotta pay more for a nice video card.more ram etc. which would cost another $400-500 so thats paying $900-1000 more than a PS3 and an HD TV. not only thats not including the cost of maintaining your computer and keeping it up to date. that also costs a fortune. so ur saving $1000 instantly (which u can buy a ****load of games,blue ray movies etc with or save) and completly ditch the periodic maintenance.

so its a no brainer. the games are way better on PS3 not only graphics wise but the smoothness of the gameplay offline and online. also a very high % of games that are on PC are or will be on PS3. be smart and make the change.

Deni_Rossonero: what you said is really retarded and makes no sense. all i said was "no one gives a **** about PC version of fifa" i didnt say somethign like "no one gives a **** about the pc version of fifa you faggot" or something like that. and its true
most ppl just download it or get it off a friend. if people really cared they'd by the game

after i said "your too poor to afford..." i said "if your to lazy to buy, OR CANT AFFORD... thats your problem" and i should've added
expect EA to spend alot more time and effort on PC version because your to lazy to upgrade. or becauseyou can't afforda next gen consoleits not their fault your to lazy or cant afford or dont want to buy a next gen console. so why should they take the risk of losing money or making a lot less money uneccesarily. thast why the consoles are called NEXT-Gen because there newer and therefore have better and more advanced technology. a game on a PS2 will never be as good as the same game being on PS3.

and when i said "stop crying because your a noob without a console" its tur because he is bitching and whining and only noobs bitch without logically thinking about it before you start the bitching. he had a biased opinion. because he has PC and not a Console so he was biased towards the PC side.

me (and another person) provided logical reasoning for backing up next gen. before and while i was typing my comments.

you are just a immature little EMO kid (based on how you are acting) that needs to get help.

and No_11 stop acting like an idiot and people might not be rude to you. its clear you acted based on a biased opinion and not thinking hardbefore posting. do you see ppl complaining about PS2 and regualur xbox when PS3 and xbox 360 came out no. because they know most ppl are obviously going to switch to something better.

if you weren't biased and actually thought about this real hard before typing this than i wouldn't of been rude. youre very first line gives away that your being biased "most loyal EA FIFA fans are the PC ones" that by far is the bull**** and you know it. and yet you said it anyway. and that was your very first line.

so have a logical reason before bitching..im done with this stupid argument bye.

"How is it that people like you live, if i was your father i'd flush you into the toilette you when you first spoke"

maaan... don't talk to people like that.. you have no right to be so impolite and rude.

poor typing, bad spelling, and a wonderful vocabulary. quite impressive. remind me to abuse everyone who has an opinion.

"How is it that people like you live, if i was your father i'd flush you into the toilette you when you first spoke"
maaan... don't talk to people like that.. you have no right to be so impolite and rude.

Oh shut up you tart.

the 'lordspawn's' first post was vile and off-topic, it was asking for trouble.

[QUOTE=Gaucho-Gaz;2393725]Oh shut up you tart.

I loved this forum for years but this is the end for me... i won't tolorate being talked to like that .. see ya guys

You are so wrong. First, EA didn't put next gen effort into PC cause you need a super high end PC to run Fifa 2008 as smoothly and gorgeous as the 360 version. Fact. You can't run Bioshock, Gears and games like that on average PC's either. And that's fact. They make games for the masses not for the 3 or 4 people who have a superb Alienware setup! You can always get extra memory and a $500 graphics card but most people wouldn't waste their time or cash not to mention configurations, glitches and problems that are so prominant on PC's.

On to the 360 & PS3 versions...from what I've seen and read so far those versions are superb. I know EA has been putting out sh!t Fifa games for some time but they are taking next gen serious which is more than I can say for another company whose name I'll not mention.

It will be hard to remain constructive, but I will try my best.

First of all, I would like to ask you all which user platform has made EA thrive over the last decade? Which platform users remained loyal to EA, through the ups and downs? Yes, the PC users.

It's like a long marriage and now EA has literally dumped us for a younger, hotter chick... the console.

It's been a decade now that I for one remained faithful to EA even though I've been disappointed on some releases. I can tell you, however, that for a few years now it's been a tough ride.

People who recommend others of "moving on" or buying a next-gen console are missing the fact that most of us aren't ready to buy a 500$ gaming console to play one game.

To lay to rest the debate on consoles being better than PCs, PCs have better performance and better hardware. There are reasons to why consoles may run better for games but it's as simple as to looking as far as the operating system. Consoles really don't have one, it's more or less an "enhanced" system bios chip. Where as a computer has A LOT more going on than just the game running. And that is simply just the tip of the iceberg on that topic.

I won't ever own a newer console, mainly because I refuse to pay more money to just have a console, which is just a computer anyways, to game on. My computer is much more than just a game center. It does my work, as well as my entertainment. A console, just games. It's not really what I call a smart purchase.

We've already seen many bugs in the FIFA 08 demo. And not a lot of promise has been made of the PC version. In fact, I haven't seen one game play video of the game on current gen prior to the release of the demo. There wasn't even any information on the PC version of the game. Playing the demo, I feel that the graphics have not changed since 2006. The game play has improved a little but is no where near the 360 and PS3 versios.

Outdoing the PS3 and 360 is not an impossible task. As there are many very nice games for the PC. And according to a recent poll on which platform forum users are buying the game on shows that the PC is still the second most popular platform. So if this is all a marketing and deals scheme, what happened to supply and demand?

It's clear we are being cheated big time. Now that we have helped EA poise themselves over the past years as a major developer for new consoles, now that we have served EA as guinea-pigs for so many years, we are being dumped for there are hot chick consoles that will cash-in for the best games while we, PC users, bite the dust..

PS: This Post Was Made By An Angry Guy I Don't Know His Name And I Read This And Posted It Here.

You can always buy a $500 graphics card only to update it the next year again:D. What ever makes sense to you!

You can mess around with configurations, buy super expensive grfx cards and deal with bugs PC's are infamous for or spend $400 on a dedicated gaming machine that will be technologically relevant for at least 5 years! Make the choice. You say a console is not a worth it for you then you have to deal with last gen games from many developers. They don't make games solely for superhigh end PC's you know! Stop thinking you're so special that EA should make a game that not only a handful of you can run on your machines.

Macs for work, consoles for gaming. PC's for installing virus "protection"

yeah tooo poor theres no logic in rather playing it on PC than a console when u have to spend ALOT mroe on your computer than you would on a console so spending more money on something that is not even as good as the other makes no sense. unless they cant afford it. plus you act like FIFA is the only game on PS3 most if not all games. on PC are also on consoles. not to many games are PC only. there a quite a bit of amazing games on PS3 right now. example Warhawk. almost the best game i have ever played probably.

also online gaming on PS3 is godlike theres no lag at all you wont notice the difference between single player and multiplayer online (that is if you have a good connection). only time it lags is if people have ****ty connections like dial up or something happens to their connection. but 98%of the time its flawless. PS3 is a must get the

games are amazing the graphics are amazing. online is amazing. plus PS3 is not like ****box 360 or wii theres lots of other things u can do. browser internet and do w/e u want there. play music videos put ur photos on there. etc. play blue-ray movies, dvd,s with 1080p upscaling or w/e its called play PS2 and PS1 games (online works fine).

PS3 isnt just a gaming console its a entertainment centre its multy purpose. thats why PS3 is so amazing. and worth all the money. if u were to get all the functions of a PS3 in seperate machines (which u can get in seperate machines) it wold costs thousands. a blue ray player alone is over $1000. thats just the blue-ray player. dont even need to say more. also the ability to be able to control your Ps3 form anywhere in the world is awsome. i can play my music videos and look at my photos that are on my PS3 from my PSP ANYWHERE in the world that has a wireless connection. which is really cool. its like have a PSP with 60GB of data (or alot mroe if u use a higher storage HDD).

so the PS3 is very very versatile also theres firmware upgrades that add new stuff and functionality to the PS3. which makes it even better.

this is why you should make the Switch to Ps3. **** xbox 360 and wii. PS3 is the ****.

u can buy a HD TV and a PS3 and still spend like 500 less than just the computer. and you still gotta pay more for a nice video card.more ram etc. which would cost another $400-500 so thats paying $900-1000 more than a PS3 and an HD TV. not only thats not including the cost of maintaining your computer and keeping it up to date. that also costs a fortune. so ur saving $1000 instantly (which u can buy a ****load of games,blue ray movies etc with or save) and completly ditch the periodic maintenance.

so its a no brainer. the games are way better on PS3 not only graphics wise but the smoothness of the gameplay offline and online. also a very high % of games that are on PC are or will be on PS3. be smart and make the change.

Deni_Rossonero: what you said is really retarded and makes no sense. all i said was "no one gives a **** about PC version of fifa" i didnt say somethign like "no one gives a **** about the pc version of fifa you faggot" or something like that. and its true
most ppl just download it or get it off a friend. if people really cared they'd by the game

after i said "your too poor to afford..." i said "if your to lazy to buy, OR CANT AFFORD... thats your problem" and i should've added
expect EA to spend alot more time and effort on PC version because your to lazy to upgrade. or becauseyou can't afforda next gen consoleits not their fault your to lazy or cant afford or dont want to buy a next gen console. so why should they take the risk of losing money or making a lot less money uneccesarily. thast why the consoles are called NEXT-Gen because there newer and therefore have better and more advanced technology. a game on a PS2 will never be as good as the same game being on PS3.

and when i said "stop crying because your a noob without a console" its tur because he is bitching and whining and only noobs bitch without logically thinking about it before you start the bitching. he had a biased opinion. because he has PC and not a Console so he was biased towards the PC side.

me (and another person) provided logical reasoning for backing up next gen. before and while i was typing my comments.

you are just a immature little EMO kid (based on how you are acting) that needs to get help.

and No_11 stop acting like an idiot and people might not be rude to you. its clear you acted based on a biased opinion and not thinking hardbefore posting. do you see ppl complaining about PS2 and regualur xbox when PS3 and xbox 360 came out no. because they know most ppl are obviously going to switch to something better.

if you weren't biased and actually thought about this real hard before typing this than i wouldn't of been rude. youre very first line gives away that your being biased "most loyal EA FIFA fans are the PC ones" that by far is the bull**** and you know it. and yet you said it anyway. and that was your very first line.

so have a logical reason before bitching..im done with this stupid argument bye.

Stop right there! You have RFOm and that's it. Oh and now Lair which got bad reviews. That's it. 360 has Bioshock which owns the whole PS3 system and may very well get multiple game of the year awards. 360 had last years dominating game and is now coming out w/ 2 new game of the year contenders in Mass Effect and Bioshock. That's fact. While 360 has a super superior online system and killer games, the PS3 is still A PROMISE!

Oh, forgot to mention: All games lok better on 360 (cross platform games). Don't believe me? Go to gamespot and gamepro.com and look in the archives. They have the graphics comparisons for all to see. Plus, EA sports titles run at 60 fps on the 360 unlike the PS3 Not to mention we stole most of your exclusives like Devil May Cry and we have exclusive downloadable content for GTA4 and we will have the next Splinter Cell exclusive. Now before we go further, tell me what the PS3 has done? WHAT? Not what it PROMISES to do but what it's done? NOTHING!

PC is and will always be superior to consoles because if you have the know-how you can improve the game in every area. I have owned the latest version of Fifa for the last 4 years and some years I owned multiple copies....and I payed my hard earned money for every copy. PC gamers are the most high brow and intelligent group of gamers there are. Consoles were invented to market to the MAJORITY of people who would game and don't have the know how to run games a the thousands of varities of OS and hardware combinations. A very small minority of people drive Lamborghini, but it is still the best driving experience you can have. PC gamer's who edit the game year in and year out are the consumers of the game that have the most connection with the FIFA games series and telling us that we should buy a console because we are behind the times is laughable. My PCs hardware is 6 months old and it runs circles around the PS3 in every benchmark test. You can be ignorant, which you are, but being ignorant and rude is intolerable.

[QUOTE=Gaucho-Gaz;2393725]Oh shut up you tart.
I loved this forum for years but this is the end for me... i won't tolorate being talked to like that .. see ya guys


You can dish it out but you can't take it ......

Perhaps you should have read the whole topic correctly, instead of picking on someone without reason.

You big tart. :amika:

If you guys would keep your tempers and vocabulary in check this could be a very interesting debate. It should be noted, however, that there are those who cannot just get up and buy a console, but need a PC, and the opportunity to entertain themselves with a game such as Fifa is just a bonus. If you can afford to buy all the latest consoles as well as a decent PC, consider yourself lucky instead of berating those who are unable to do likewise. A lot of you guys have a distinct tendency to be very rude when trying to express your thoughts, and you should really expand your vocabulary, or at least put it to proper use.

very well put.

Very nicely put Keeg.

By the way, Thelordspawn is a HUGE GIT

PC is and will always be superior to consoles because if you have the know-how you can improve the game in every area. I have owned the latest version of Fifa for the last 4 years and some years I owned multiple copies....and I payed my hard earned money for every copy. PC gamers are the most high brow and intelligent group of gamers there are. Consoles were invented to market to the MAJORITY of people who would game and don't have the know how to run games a the thousands of varities of OS and hardware combinations. A very small minority of people drive Lamborghini, but it is still the best driving experience you can have. PC gamer's who edit the game year in and year out are the consumers of the game that have the most connection with the FIFA games series and telling us that we should buy a console because we are behind the times is laughable. My PCs hardware is 6 months old and it runs circles around the PS3 in every benchmark test. You can be ignorant, which you are, but being ignorant and rude is intolerable.

perhaps most people want to just plug and playu moron. Furthermore, even if you know what youre doing pcs are high maintanance. I know since Ive been playing games on Pcs since the Commodore 64. Cashwise, ease of use wise, consoles are better, period. Now go protect your pc from viruses. Macs rule!

perhaps most people want to just plug and playu moron. Furthermore, even if you know what youre doing pcs are high maintanance. I know since Ive been playing games on Pcs since the Commodore 64. Cashwise, ease of use wise, consoles are better, period. Now go protect your pc from viruses. Macs rule!

What is it with you and viruses??? ;)

What is it with you and viruses??? ;)


He must be going to the 'dodgy' sites. :p :jacko:

A tip for you Madridista = get yourself a good antivirus and problem solved :gavin:

He must be going to the 'dodgy' sites. :p :jacko:

A tip for you Madridista = get yourself a good antivirus and problem solved :gavin:

LOL!!!!

I know, right!!!! This kid must've had a TERRIBLE experience with viruses that must've left him scarred for life ;) :D

perhaps most people want to just plug and playu moron. Furthermore, even if you know what youre doing pcs are high maintanance. I know since Ive been playing games on Pcs since the Commodore 64. Cashwise, ease of use wise, consoles are better, period. Now go protect your pc from viruses. Macs rule!

You're right about people just wanting to plug and play, that is what I meant. Consoles are for people that want to plug and play. I can be civilized but there is no need to call me a moron, I am anything but. These forums are frequented by people who play the game on PC because they edit the game and find editing as much fun as actually playing. If you don't care about editing the game and if editing games is not amongst your hobbies then by all means play it on a console. This thread is a topic for PC FIFA gamers and about whether or not we feel cheated. I for one am perfectly happy with the new game as it is editable, if they had made a next gen version, it would have been a much larger learning curve for all of us to figure out how to change everything. I still have my FIFA 06 on my PC and it is better than the FIFA 08 demo because of the time I spent improving it. And lastly Keegan made a good point. I use my PC for everything, I work as an IT, I know alot about PCs, how they work and how to maintain them. I ENJOY maintaining them. I want every aspect of my machine to be designed or modified by ME. Buying a console is not a solution for my needs/wants, that is why there are many products on the market, because everyone's needs/wants are different. Since I would own a PC under any circumstance, it is nice to be able to have FIFA on my PC.

You're right about people just wanting to plug and play, that is what I meant. Consoles are for people that want to plug and play. I can be civilized but there is no need to call me a moron, I am anything but. These forums are frequented by people who play the game on PC because they edit the game and find editing as much fun as actually playing. If you don't care about editing the game and if editing games is not amongst your hobbies then by all means play it on a console. This thread is a topic for PC FIFA gamers and about whether or not we feel cheated. I for one am perfectly happy with the new game as it is editable, if they had made a next gen version, it would have been a much larger learning curve for all of us to figure out how to change everything. I still have my FIFA 06 on my PC and it is better than the FIFA 08 demo because of the time I spent improving it. And lastly Keegan made a good point. I use my PC for everything, I work as an IT, I know alot about PCs, how they work and how to maintain them. I ENJOY maintaining them. I want every aspect of my machine to be designed or modified by ME. Buying a console is not a solution for my needs/wants, that is why there are many products on the market, because everyone's needs/wants are different. Since I would own a PC under any circumstance, it is nice to be able to have FIFA on my PC.

Hey, just wondering, is it cheaper to buy a PC or to create one yourself from scratch?

I use my PC for everything, I work as an IT, I know alot about PCs, how they work and how to maintain them. I ENJOY maintaining them. I want every aspect of my machine to be designed or modified by ME. Buying a console is not a solution for my needs/wants, that is why there are many products on the market, because everyone's needs/wants are different. Since I would own a PC under any circumstance, it is nice to be able to have FIFA on my PC.

Precisely.

I use mine for business purposes,hi-fi, copying on to dvd from my camcorder and printing photo's from the digital camera etc.

Why buy a console when you can buy a pc. ;)

Definitely to make it yourself. Buying all the components seperately from websites like Newegg.com and assembling them yourself. You can make an absolutly top of the line PC and save $500 or more.

Hey, just wondering, is it cheaper to buy a PC or to create one yourself from scratch?

Your better building one yourself as you can customize it better to what you need, only if your confident enough though and unless you wan't to buy a complete one with a warranty etc.

perhaps most people want to just plug and playu moron...

Now why did you have to go and call the guy a moron? Is no one allowed to disagree with you? Be careful you aren't found to be disagreeable, yourself.

Yeah, Keegan. But he reunited some bad qualities: Madridista, gringo asqueroso (thanks Konnan!!!!!!!!!!), asshole and one of those "I think I'm better than the 90% of mankind" Mac users (that doesn't means that all of them are like this guy, in fact, I wanna have a Mac in the future)

I have my own laptop and a 360. So I have the chance to buy the next-gen FIFA 08 for my 360 and the PC's FIFA 08. However, I'm sure that I will enjoy more the PC's FIFA 08. Why? Because there was a worldwide community who does every year some stuff to improve the good and correct the bad from the PC's FIFA. That's right. Maybe PC was the ugly lady in the dance. Buy hey, even that can be corrected.

I know I will enjoy FIFA on 360, along with Forza 2, Halo 3, WWE SmackDown vs Raw 2007, TNA iMPACT!, among others. I hope I can have PS3 in the future to play Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII. But I won't stop to buy PC's FIFA and I'm very sure I'll enjoy it.

Yeah, Keegan. But he reunited some bad qualities: Madridista, gringo asqueroso (thanks Konnan!!!!!!!!!!), asshole and one of those "I think I'm better than the 90% of mankind" Mac users (that doesn't means that all of them are like this guy, in fact, I wanna have a Mac in the future)

I have my own laptop and a 360. So I have the chance to buy the next-gen FIFA 08 for my 360 and the PC's FIFA 08. However, I'm sure that I will enjoy more the PC's FIFA 08. Why? Because there was a worldwide community who does every year some stuff to improve the good and correct the bad from the PC's FIFA. That's right. Maybe PC was the ugly lady in the dance. Buy hey, even that can be corrected.

I know I will enjoy FIFA on 360, along with Forza 2, Halo 3, WWE SmackDown vs Raw 2007, TNA iMPACT!, among others. I hope I can have PS3 in the future to play Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII. But I won't stop to buy PC's FIFA and I'm very sure I'll enjoy it.

And that's the everlasting advantage that PC's will always have over consoles! The power to edit a game's database!

Well put Xbox6! :D

won't feel cheated if they dropped the price of the game to what it delivers. I enjoyed the demo to a certain extent. Like seeing the AI use Dinho's elastico against me with perfection. Also seeing Messi running around with the ball like in real life. Graphically, it's still the same. Don't know why they even put the Low, Medium, High quality level in the settings.

The game is very similar to '07 with some touch ups during release, and if that's the case they can't sell at a price of a full released game.

what it doesn't make sense if why they have so many different versions of the same game. why don't just develop fifa08 next gen for all platforms, less trouble, easier to develop and maintain, less bugs, etc.

ah btw what the **** is next gen i guess it is the same marketing bull**** term such as web 2.0 and the like :D lol

PC is and will always be superior to consoles because if you have the know-how you can improve the game in every area. I have owned the latest version of Fifa for the last 4 years and some years I owned multiple copies....and I payed my hard earned money for every copy. PC gamers are the most high brow and intelligent group of gamers there are. Consoles were invented to market to the MAJORITY of people who would game and don't have the know how to run games a the thousands of varities of OS and hardware combinations. A very small minority of people drive Lamborghini, but it is still the best driving experience you can have. PC gamer's who edit the game year in and year out are the consumers of the game that have the most connection with the FIFA games series and telling us that we should buy a console because we are behind the times is laughable. My PCs hardware is 6 months old and it runs circles around the PS3 in every benchmark test. You can be ignorant, which you are, but being ignorant and rude is intolerable.

Well by your logic, why buy a lamborghini when you can just buy the parts and make one yourself?

Also, just because you download and install patches for your PC game doesn't make you any better a gamer than somebody with a console. Even if you design some patches, it's nothing extraordinary unless you have created some of the tools that unpack and repack EA's fsh and other files?

And if it makes you feel better, it's possible to patch games on consoles. The console needs to be modded for that and I've done it putting my favourite team in PES and then winning everything possible with it on my old xbox. I know PS2 gamers have also done it.

Now tell me, how much does a Lamborghini cost compared to a regular car? How much does a high end PC needed to run a next gen FIFA game cost compared to an xbox360 or a ps3?

And what more do you get by playing FIFA on your PC rather than on a console? Ability to change the players' shoes? Big woop. I cared about that when I was 14 and now the games ship with brand name shoes balls and uniforms anyway.

What the console does though, is it runs the game on optimal settings and you get to play it on a large screen tv while most people use small monitors when playing PC games.

If it somehow makes you feel like a bigger man because you are playing your games on your PC rather than on a console, then I'm sorry.

P.S. have fun playing FIFA2005 with an 08 logo on your fantastic PC while I enjoy a truly new game on my crappy xbox360. But don't worry, I'll use this PC that's not good for gaming but can do everything else to tell you about how great the game is.

Leafer01, please -
How many people that can afford to buy a car can afford to buy a Lamborghini? And who suggested that enjoying editing a game makes you any better or worse a gamer than anybody else? By your reasoning, the fact that I make boots for Fifa (since Fifa 2003) makes my hobby that so many people have found enjoyment in, redundant - since the game already ships with branded boots. No one would say that an Xbox 360 is crap, but that does not make the needs and requirements of PC users any less important. The fact is that EA's Fifa franchise was built on the PC and while it has grown to the dizzying heights of Xbox 360 and PS3, EA should remember where they are coming from. Console users enjoying Fifa does not in any way diminish PC users enjoyment of Fifa and vice versa. In fact, since I don't own a console, I don't even visit the console threads. The way I see it, you do your thing and I do mine. Games are about fun after all, right? No need for heated arguments and name calling.

PC overtakes any console known to human kind lol get your head right, thelordspawn. Just because you not aware of how to upgrade your hardware that's entirely your miss.

Most People Have Pc's Wich Can Handle A Next Gen Game.
Even If U Don't U Don't Need To Buy A New Pc, U Can Upgrade It.
I Mean they Could Make That U Can Choose The Graphic If U Want It Next gen or old gen

what it doesn't make sense if why they have so many different versions of the same game. why don't just develop fifa08 next gen for all platforms, less trouble, easier to develop and maintain, less bugs, etc.

ah btw what the **** is next gen i guess it is the same marketing bull**** term such as web 2.0 and the like :D lol

No. Watch a Fifa 2008 video for the PC/PS2 then watch a 360 one and you'll see a huge differnce. Not only graphicwise but the engine is completely different. Fifa 2007 360 engine was built completely from scratch. It's all about the physics. Sure, Fifa 2007 for the 360 was rubbish cause it was rushed, unfinished but you saw the foundation of the engine and how they can build on it for the coming 5 years. It's an outrageous physics engine that will probably be maximized in 4 or 5 years.

Sure , if you know what you are doing w/ PC's and are willing to spend the cash, you can have a great machine for gaming but I think EA and many other developers look at the mass consumer and plan accordingly. There are other issues also like piracy along with system requirements, etc. In the end, consoles offer ease of use with a long life expectancy for relatively affordable prices. also, in the end its not just about graphics and power but accesibility and user friendliness along with fun factor. Perfect example is the Wii, which is owning all systems out there now. One thing I love about PC gaming is customizations. However, I love my 360 and its online service is sacred and very social. Add the ease of use and great games and its an easy choice. Mac cost me $1,100, 360 cost me $400. That's $1,500 for my designing and my gaming. That's pretty good.

Leafer01, please -
How many people that can afford to buy a car can afford to buy a Lamborghini? And who suggested that enjoying editing a game makes you any better or worse a gamer than anybody else? By your reasoning, the fact that I make boots for Fifa (since Fifa 2003) makes my hobby that so many people have found enjoyment in, redundant - since the game already ships with branded boots. No one would say that an Xbox 360 is crap, but that does not make the needs and requirements of PC users any less important. The fact is that EA's Fifa franchise was built on the PC and while it has grown to the dizzying heights of Xbox 360 and PS3, EA should remember where they are coming from. Console users enjoying Fifa does not in any way diminish PC users enjoyment of Fifa and vice versa. In fact, since I don't own a console, I don't even visit the console threads. The way I see it, you do your thing and I do mine. Games are about fun after all, right? No need for heated arguments and name calling.

You missed my point.

First of all, I don't think I did any name calling.

Second of all, the person who I quoted was comparing the PCs to driving a lamborghini and the regular people to be using consoles..

As for making boots, if you enjoy making them and people enjoy downloading them, then it's not reduntant at all. All I said was that this is not a significant advantage of playing the game on PC rather than console.

And I definitely agree with you, we should all do whatever we enjoy. You like playing on PC, I prefer the console, but in the end we are both happy.

it is annoying since the computer is better than the console, gives you more freedom and they aren't really that much more expensive. Look at games like crysis , just as good, if not better than console games, imagine what the pc games will be like in a few years.

Consoles are bad for fps and strategy which exclude 2 massive genres, how the hell can you aim with a stick?:|

I can build a great spec that could run easily all 'next gen' games for the price of the ps3.

I'm another one that will never buy a console.

it is annoying since the computer is better than the console, gives you more freedom and they aren't really that much more expensive. Look at games like crysis , just as good, if not better than console games, imagine what the pc games will be like in a few years.

Consoles are bad for fps and strategy which exclude 2 massive genres, how the hell can you aim with a stick?:|

I can build a great spec that could run easily all 'next gen' games for the price of the ps3.

Oh my! You can't be serious! Computers not much mre expensive than lets say, a 360???? $400 compared to lets say, $1,500 average? :eek::eek::eek:
Consoles bad for shooters? Not the 360. It's excellent for shooters. I would say 80% of 360 games are shooters. We're taking games like Halo, Bioshock, Fear, Call of Duty 2&3, etc. that get excellent ratings ranging in the 9's!!!! Obviously, you don't know what you are talking about. I'm not saying 360's are better for shooters than PC, I'm just saying that they are very good. For me, they are perfect. The good ones of course.

Furthermore, if everyone is saying that you can build a PC to run great games (which is true) why b!tch about one game?? Go play PES (although I think it looks very last gen) or something that will compliment your PC!

I'm another one that will never buy a console.

Good for you. Enjoy PC's. Why all the complaining then? I'd never get a PC since I don't want to spend time installing virus protectin and avoiding crashes, etc.:evil: And fact is that Microsoft Operating Systems are horrid. They are in cahoots with the whole IT industry. If it breaks down = more money for everyone, from tech specialists to antivirus providers, etc. Yes, that's the way it works. Same with copy machines.

''too poor to afford a PS3/xbox 360/wii''

How is it that people like you live, if i was your father i'd flush you into the toilette you when you first spoke. These are the ones that start the wars people, these are the ones that would kill you for a dime. I spit on you! - :) this is just perfect for this occasion

You've been warned before Deni, stop insulting members remember?
Now behave from now on ok let's just get along this is about the Fifagame.
Bashing on eich other is a waist of time :mad:

I think the being called "retards" and "morons" was insulting, and this was the reason behind people get upset.

Good for you. Enjoy PC's. Why all the complaining then? I'd never get a PC since I don't want to spend time installing virus protectin and avoiding crashes, etc.:evil: And fact is that Microsoft Operating Systems are horrid. They are in cahoots with the whole IT industry. If it breaks down = more money for everyone, from tech specialists to antivirus providers, etc. Yes, that's the way it works. Same with copy machines.

Dear oh dear Madridista.

You need counselling to get over this phobia of pc's ....

Hey Gaucho, question for you if you will. How do I link my sig to the site on it? appreciate the help.

Dear oh dear Madridista.

You need counselling to get over this phobia of pc's ....

You know this is true to a certain extent. C'mon!

You know this is true to a certain extent. C'mon!

Yes, I know it's true you need counselling. :amika:

Regarding you sig, I have no idea :confused:

Yes, I know it's true you need counselling. :amika:

Regarding you sig, I have no idea :confused:

Perhaps I need counseling if PC's were the only machines out there and I was forced to use them. Most of the Departments at my old job used PC's. The IT guys would run around like crazy fixing all types of problems. They worked overtime like crazy cleaning drives, installing virus protection,spyware utilities, etc. Our department (graphics) rarely got visits. Only to install new versions of Indesign, etc. aside from that we would do all types of things, download all tps of stuff from the internet without a worry in the world and I do not remember one instance of a major malfunction on our systems. But, to each, his own I guess. One thing I will say is great about PC gaming is the customization aspect. Installing adboards, flags, pitches, etc. that's cool....if you know what you are doing.

That's better...

$400 compared to lets say, $1,500 average?
You certainly aren't comparing like for like at those price points. I can't speak for US prices, but here in the UK a premium Xbox 360 system seems to be around the £250 mark (buying online) and for £400 I can buy (from a reputable online supplier - the same one from whom I purchased the 18 month old machine on which I'm typing this) a dual core Intel system with 1GB RAM, 250GB HD and dual layer DVD. Now that system almost certainly does not have as much grunt as the 360, both the processor and graphics capabilities will be at least half as powerful, but it includes a 19" widescreen monitor, gigabit networking, a multi-format memory card reader, twice as much RAM as the Xbox (I believe the default is 512MB), more than ten times as much disk space, and the DVD drive is a writer not read-only. Add to that the fact that the PC will be upgradable in the future, especially on the graphics front, and I really don't see that there is that huge a price differential (especially when you take into account a screen to plug the console into - not all of us have full-time access to a suitable TV).

[QUOTE=Gaucho-Gaz;2393725]Oh shut up you tart.

I loved this forum for years but this is the end for me... i won't tolorate being talked to like that .. see ya guys

lol.. like anyone will care if he leaves or not

I agree with what the thread starter was saying, when i bought my first fifa game for PC (fifa 04) that was because i couldn't be bothered to spend £200 on a brand new PS2, although i did buy one about 6 months later when the price dropped, but i realised that at that time, the PC blew away all the consoles on the market. I have bought only PC versions of Fifa since, simply because of the versatility of the PC.

A few examples:

1. If you don't like the music in the menu's/wanna listen during the game, you can simply load up a media player and play your tracks, recently i've taken to listening to international cricket over the internet whilst playing fifa.

2. If the graphics are rubbish you can simply upgrade your graphics card, with a console you have to wait for the next gen/ buy a rival console.

3. If the kits are outdated/unofficial you can update them and edit almost every aspect of the game, you can't with a console.

The main problem for me is that EA are investing big money in the next gen consoles, when really they are not selling well at all, sony have announced huge price cuts with the PS3 in America, whilst us europeans get extra rubbishy games for the same price, and i'm not really sure about Sony's claims that the PS3 is some sort of media centre for everything (internet DVD's Games Music TV etc.) because of the DVD format war going on.

I hope EA come to their senses and realise that they are taking big risks by doing this and when Fifa 09 comes around I hope to see a major effort by EA on the PC version, because at the moment I think they are putting more effort into the PSP, DS and mobile phone versions of the game, which frankly are crap!

Perhaps I need counseling if PC's were the only machines out there and I was forced to use them. Most of the Departments at my old job used PC's. The IT guys would run around like crazy fixing all types of problems. They worked overtime like crazy cleaning drives, installing virus protection,spyware utilities, etc. Our department (graphics) rarely got visits. Only to install new versions of Indesign, etc. aside from that we would do all types of things, download all tps of stuff from the internet without a worry in the world and I do not remember one instance of a major malfunction on our systems. But, to each, his own I guess. One thing I will say is great about PC gaming is the customization aspect. Installing adboards, flags, pitches, etc. that's cool....if you know what you are doing.

I think you're a bit of a hypocrite...you HATE PC's and yet you do use a Mac. Before saying that Mac's are not PC's hear me out. A Mac is also like a PC except it just has different software installed on it. Wheter it's better that can be argued for another day.

And man, what is your problem with viruses and installing virus protection??? Why do you keep saying that all PC's are good for is to get attacked by viruses???? What was the experience you had that has made you so scarred for life? Buddy, it's simple, if you don't want a virus, STOP GOING ON "FUNKY" (that's the word...:D) WEBSITES!!! And stop crying about viruses!!!!

Btw, Mac's are not immune either. Sure, they get far fewer viruses than PC's but they still get some. Bud, it's that time. Stop visiting P*rn.

Btw, sorry for this offtopic. I had to get this off my chest. Sorry. :D

The days of the PC as number 1 gaming system are over. The reasons for this are multiple. Its sad, but true. Im gonna get myself an PS3 or 360 sooner or later. Anybody who wishes to play games on next generation levels, will have no choice, but to do the same.

1) I think PC users are right to feel cheated in one way

2)I don't understand this endless war with pc vs ps3 vs xbox360

3)You can talk without name calling

And then about the topic. I think the reason is simple, money&time. With XBOX360&PS3 you have standards which to use when doing a game. It's much easier&cheaper to do game in the long run, when you don't have to support all kind of different PC areas(ie. different videocard, videodrivers, soundcards, sound drivers). Of course you can simplify it, but it still needs a lot of work. While in console you know what kind of parts you have and it won't change in a year or even in 2-3 years.

Just to have to say it surely isn't cheaper to have PC for gaming. I have played with PC years and I'm still playing(mostly FM tho) and I had some time even in one national team in FPS game. So I "had to had" a lot of running power for game. And if you want to run all new games with great quality you have to upgrade(or even buy 90% new CPU) in every 1-2year(s). Even if it isn't a lot higher price for one PC vs Console, it surely is a lot expensive in long run. But of course if you have to buy new PC(like for working) every couple of years I do understand you don't want to spend on console as well.

Friend of mine bought Fifa 08 (PC). Played a few games,.. what a totaaaaal let down! Graphics, gameplay etc. everyone is worse then Fifa07. The be a pro mode is patethic. I havn't seen 1 difference between "Tele" camera and "Be a pro" camera, allthough you can select both. There are no indicators, nothing... It's just like in PES, play with 1 player, allthough PES had this option since 2001.

The gameplay is to slow, it's full of bugs (you can see in a movie that Zambrotta takes the corner, and suddenly it's ronaldinho in 0.0001 seconds), players stop moving and stand still the entire match or start running 100 mph.

This is just easy money for EA. Fifa08 may be better then pro evo on Xbox360 and PS3 (can't judge since I dont own next gen consoles), but Pro evo won the war on the PC big time this year.

Mate, did you seriously expect a total overhaul of FIFA 07? No! Everybody at EA moved on to working on the NG, I bet that there were 5 guys MAX working on the CG version. This game isn't even worth calling FIFA 08 for PC. Should be called FIFA 07 v2.0...

PES has DEFINATELY won the PC battle this year!

Maybe even Fifa 06 1/2

Fifa 07 was better in terms of graphics, sound and gameplay!

Yeah, I bet a FIFA 05 with a couple of good patches can be better than FIFA 08! At least i know my 07 is MUCH better than 08...that's why I see no point in buying it...I'll just stick with my 07 and UCL 06-07...

I feel more cheated than a Britney Spears fan. Fifa 08 for Pc, as some said, is Fifa 07 with a few changes. Such a let down. Im only happy that i downloaded the game and not buy it this time. I guess that famous discussion comparing winning eleven & fifa wont take place this year. They already kick some ass to EA sports and havent even released it yet.

P.S. EA Sports... get the f**k out of the game!

The sure have balls over there at E.A to release such a pile of ****. Seriously they had two whole years since 06, and the graphics stayed the same, they added silly features no one cares about, and to top this they managed to complicate controls even more with this GK thing which totally screws the 1st touch controls. I give this game 0 out of 10. I can buy fifa06 and change the transfers and the kits and it'll be the same.
And to all of you die hard fifa fans, just take a peek at the demo of PES2008, It looks F#uckin stunning.

I am staying with F07, its better.

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! and that is why I switched to Konami on the PC, escially after guys creating license, field, crowd chants etc... patches, You just can't go wrong with Konami on the PC.