First off, I'll say that a first impression counts. As far as Fifa 2008 is concerned in that respect, it is a poor first impression. Graphics are a bit better than Fifa 2007 but pales compared to UEFA CL. Audio is non existant basically (due to keeping the file size small), cut scenes are still choppy and player models during the cutscenes look poor. Overall animations are very good, gameplay is a bit too slow, passing can be painfully slow at times, use of the right stick to switch players is way off, tricks can be pulled off but with the right players and right timing. I think they did a good job there. One thing that really bugs me is that when you take ashot and miss the net, the ball comes back at you as if someone shot it from the other direction (rebounds off the adboards?). This is annoying and can create confusion when the net is crowded. CPU players catch up to Ronaldinho, Messi, etc n o matter what. In other words, cpu is always faster than you regardless who it is. Shooting is ok but takes some getting used to (it's more sensitive like PES) You have to press it one millionth of asecond or else the ball will go up to the top tier and curve like a whiffle ball. I haven't figured out how to control the goalie like they said you would be able to do. These are just my first impressions. I am trying to really like the demo. I've played 9 matches so far and I am really trying to like it. I absolutely love the animations but don't know if that will be enough. The bad graphics really turned me off especially since EA usually has great looking sports titles. I remember when I first tried the UEFA CL demo, I liked the leap in tweeks between that and Fifa 07 and thought the graphics were crisp, vibrant and smooth. I was expecting more but I guess I will have to wait for the final product to see. Only thing giving me hope for the final product is that EA has done very well with this years sports titles (NBA Live, NHL 08, Tiger Woods).

I'm with you on everything but the graphics...

I don't understand why everyone is saying that the game doesn't look as good as Champions League. Are you guys playing in high-def? Because the 08 demo looks just as sharp and much more vibrant than CL, which had kind of a washed-out look.

I'm with you on everything but the graphics...

I don't understand why everyone is saying that the game doesn't look as good as Champions League. Are you guys playing in high-def? Because the 08 demo looks just as sharp and much more vibrant than CL, which had kind of a washed-out look.

Yes HD all the way. Allianz Arena looks bad, pitch looks very fake, over the top details on kits are biting EA in the @ss since the wide camera angles (which will be used online and most people use) make the details appear as jaggedy krap. Intro scenes show off no advancement in player models at all. etc, etc.

Yes HD all the way. Allianz Arena looks bad, pitch looks very fake, over the top details on kits are biting EA in the @ss since the wide camera angles (which will be used online and most people use) make the details appear as jaggedy krap. Intro scenes show off no advancement in player models at all. etc, etc.

It honestly doesn't look any worse to me than CL did.

It honestly doesn't look any worse to me than CL did.

Same here. It looks better. Shirts are moving etc.

And about the rebound thing to Vikingo, didn't you look the arena? It have big net behind the goal which is bouncing the balls back as well AD-boards. Imho it's great that those parts of arena are working, not just graphic trix.

And about slowness, well I think it's better, realistic and more football than arcade gaming. It's still fast enough and you can sprint etc.

There is couple of things which I don't like, but cfdemarco already did mention those. Players aren't coming to get pass, but just standing and waiting. That's irritating when even H-juniors(6y old) are teached to come forward when they are getting pass.

Otherwise I like this game a lot. Yes there is flaws like that which are irritating, but ie. shooting is much more realistic than before. It actually can go outside of goal, but when you hit it well it will fly well.

I disagree, the gameplay is real simulation for me. I'm yet to find any gripe. But to each their own.

The FIFA franchise has been an arcade game for years, especially this years current-gen. It's still arcade, just a bit harder.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

EA got it organic, I feel a lot of people need to let it grow on them.

NK.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

Yeah, I totally agree. And for those who doesn't like shooting, imho it's best ever in FIFA series. You have to be precise with shooting, like in the real world. Shooting have to be hard to be rewarding like in real life. Not like in some FIFA series when goals had magnets for ball...

So far just 2 complaints.

1)As I did mention players aren't going forward to get passes

2)CPU is too accurate in freekicks and my goalies can't take those too well.

Graphics look to be on par with Champions league, if anything they are clearer/cleaner then champions league.

Game play is miles ahead of fifa 07 and better then UEFA... I'm impressed

and CAN'T WAIT until the full release in 2 weeks time

The simulations in the game are incredibly real, for mine thats the difference between uefa/fifa07, like the movements of the players, the ball movement is much more real

the gameplay is real simulation for me. I'm yet to find any gripe. But to each their own.

The FIFA franchise has been an arcade game for years, especially this years current-gen. It's still arcade, just a bit harder.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

EA got it organic

Absolutely Spot on(Y)

I agree with Nick as well... if you are trying to play this like you would fifa07, specially with assists off, you're not going to make it very far.

I disagree, the gameplay is real simulation for me. I'm yet to find any gripe. But to each their own.

The FIFA franchise has been an arcade game for years, especially this years current-gen. It's still arcade, just a bit harder.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

EA got it organic, I feel a lot of people need to let it grow on them.

NK.


I agree; already feels like the best FIFA in a long time, maybe ever. I think with the stick/pad in many ways the way I've got to think as a player in real life...the ultimate compliment.

I still enjoy the feel and experience of PES, no doubt, and I expect to this year; but I'll feel entirely comfortable playing FIFA on next-gen console (I'm playing on xbox 360 elite), and enjoying PES on PC precisely b/c the community will make the game better.

But to ignore that FIFA has responded this year, has worked hard to produce something worthy, is blind and unfair in my view.

I can't get used to using the analogue stick for movement. As long as they continue to neglect the d-pad, this game will always be runner up to PES for me.

Same here. It looks better. Shirts are moving etc.

And about the rebound thing to Vikingo, didn't you look the arena? It have big net behind the goal which is bouncing the balls back as well AD-boards. Imho it's great that those parts of arena are working, not just graphic trix.

And about slowness, well I think it's better, realistic and more football than arcade gaming. It's still fast enough and you can sprint etc.

There is couple of things which I don't like, but cfdemarco already did mention those. Players aren't coming to get pass, but just standing and waiting. That's irritating when even H-juniors(6y old) are teached to come forward when they are getting pass.

Otherwise I like this game a lot. Yes there is flaws like that which are irritating, but ie. shooting is much more realistic than before. It actually can go outside of goal, but when you hit it well it will fly well.

I meant during the games at Allianz arena. Every shot came back zipped at 60 mph onto the field. It's strange, doesn't happen in real life. Have no idea why they invented this.

I meant during the games at Allianz arena. Every shot came back zipped at 60 mph onto the field. It's strange, doesn't happen in real life. Have no idea why they invented this.
i havent noticed that.

also the control the goalie is currentgen only i think

I disagree, the gameplay is real simulation for me. I'm yet to find any gripe. But to each their own.

The FIFA franchise has been an arcade game for years, especially this years current-gen. It's still arcade, just a bit harder.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

EA got it organic, I feel a lot of people need to let it grow on them.

NK.

I am hoping so. I really am giving it time to grow on me. This iteration is definately sim, no question. Perhaps it's why people like me are bewildered, since EA has put out nothing like it.

theres one HUGE problem with his game which will mean you can NEVER love it



THE PLAYERS DO NOT COME TOWARDS THE BALL WHEN ITS PLAYED TO THEM


the f**king first thing a footballer taught at a young ages, jesus

when passing the ball just press towards the direction of the ball from the recieving player, because u take over the player recieving before the ball arrives to him, u actually have to move the player towards the ball...

well at least for me anyhow :P

I disagree, the gameplay is real simulation for me. I'm yet to find any gripe. But to each their own.

The FIFA franchise has been an arcade game for years, especially this years current-gen. It's still arcade, just a bit harder.

FIFA 08 on next-gen IS simulation. It's very good. You have to know football to get the timing right, think how much time you actually have on the ball in real games. Not a lot especially against top teams.

EA got it organic, I feel a lot of people need to let it grow on them.

NK.

[PS3 Here]

I do agree, FIFA has become better and better. But it's not good enough.
I don't mean to flame anyone in anyway, I'm just gonna give my opinion on the demo that I've been playing for some hours.

Shooting is quite impressive considering how it has evolved, but it's just not good when compared to , and yes it has to be like this, PES. I'm not a fanboy because I considered buying FIFA if it was better, just so we're clear. The reason shooting is just not good it's because you rarely miss it wide or anything alike, it's just weak, or easily defended or it goes just a little beside the post. And that's not real, it just isn't, I feel like there's no lucky goals ( hence, like real life) it's just as it is, if you get it right it's goal, if you don't it's on the goalkeeper. Shooting just doesn't feel real because it's too 'GK or GOAL'. Crossing and passing in general feels a bit edgy, sometimes you just wanna do a simple pass to a guy next to you uncovered, and it's so slow that even a guy far away intercepts it. Crossing just feels like noone is gonna catch it and I've yet to had a header towards the goal.Then there's the speed thing that someone else mentioned, you get caught everytime in a sprint. The first touches are incredibly frustrating, sometimes I pass the ball to ronaldinho and he's like 6 or 7 meters away from the defender but he's first touch is so bad (even when not pushing R2) that the defender goes there and takes it away like it's his already. The animations look very good though, and the presentation looks good too, EA has some nice work with faces for a change, PC version is still really blurry to say the least though.

FIFA has improved no doubt, but sorry to say this , and I really am I was looking forward to fifa, there's still a not-so-small gap between the games and I'm gonna stick with PES this year aswell. I feel like if I play the demo until the game comes out I'm gonna explore 90% of the ways of scoring goals. I score and discover new stunning goals even after almost a year of PES. But hey, if you guys like FIFA, I say, enjoy it! because that's the point in all this. :shades:

when passing the ball just press towards the direction of the ball from the recieving player, because u take over the player recieving before the ball arrives to him, u actually have to move the player towards the ball...


Yep I totally agree, thats what your meant to do..complete freedom of movement and NO scripting.



it's just not good when compared to , and yes it has to be like this, PES

I dont think there is a point in COMPARING these two games anymore because they are just too different, Fifa 08 is now a simulation of Football and PES is an Arcade football game(not a bad thing)............I am going to bye fifa 08 for the Xbox 360 & PES 2008 for the PC which means I get Next Gen Football with Both console and PC, But I will not compare them because I love each equally but for different reasons.:clapwap:
Each game has their weakness and each game has their strengths , I am just happy that both Konami & EA are starting & I mean Just starting to listen to their consumers. I personally cannot wait to play each depending on what mood I am in...............you know!..... do I want to play serious simulation football or have fantastic all out Football fun action:)

I have a simple question, what teams are included in the 360 version of the demo?

The demo offers the chance to play as seven teams, FC Barcelona, AC Milan, America (Mexico), NY Red Bulls, Manchester United, Marseille, and Bayern München:p


Shame they did not have Liverpool......;)

[PS3 Here]. The reason shooting is just not good it's because you rarely miss it wide or anything alike, it's just weak, or easily defended or it goes just a little beside the post.

I disagree with this, I have really screwed up some shots, sending them way off.

Ah, so the same as the PC demo. My work buddy told me it included two teams from each league.. pssh.. what a liar.

Ah, so the same as the PC demo. My work buddy told me it included two teams from each league.. pssh.. what a liar.

lol, that would be a lot of teams, a 60 team demo.. wow.

The demo offers the chance to play as seven teams, FC Barcelona, AC Milan, America (Mexico), NY Red Bulls, Manchester United, Marseille, and Bayern München:p


Shame they did not have Liverpool......;)

It's actually Inter and not AC Milan in the demo...

I REALLY hope that being able to take over control of your keeper isn't just for last-gen because keepers are COMPLETELY worthless on set pieces.

Put it this way, you better not give up a free kick that's within 25 yards of the goal because if you do it's GOING IN. I think I've given up 3 free kicks around the 20-25 yard range so far and all 3 have been put in. My keeper just stands there like an idiot and watches it sail in.

And whomever said that you can make your players run towards incoming passes must've gotten a different version of the demo! Because I sure as hell can't figure out how to make my guys run towards the ball.

Mixed feelings. Let's start with the good:

Physics - Realistic as can be
Graphics - Even better than UEFA, players look less shiny/plastic
Tricks - Awesome!
Detail - Warming ups, handshakes in the hallway and much more

Now the bad:

I bloody hate the new controls. I want select players with either the left trigger or the A button. There's actually a way to make that happen, but then you have the X and B buttons mixed up. I want to make my own control scheme.

Passing sucks. I mean, in order to pass it long you have to hold the button down longer, but it takes too long for it to charge and the ball will get taken from you.

Through balls, same story. Takes too long to charge.

Scoring is too difficult. Shooting charges up too quick and before you know it your shot will fly over the bar. That's a little bit too realistic for me. And that's with Ronaldinho. Can't imagine how hard it will be to score with a lower ranked player from my favourite Dutch team.

Goalkeepers make incredible saves, one after another. They dive towards the ball like they have rocketshoes or something. So when I finally manage to get a good shot, Mr. Superman catches the ball with both hand. No fingertip saves.

When I pass, the receiving player responds too slow and I can't make him really run towards the ball. Bollocks! Fanny hair! Balls!

I hope they will change this before the official release, but I doubt it.

Fifa 08 is now a simulation of Football and PES is an Arcade football game(not a bad thing)............

I don't care if you actually prefer FIFA over PES, but calling PES arcade is just nonsense , for crying out loud, half of fifa improvements are copied from PES. Should I point some out? The crossing times thingie, the cross on where the ball is gonna fall, the sprint style of turning only 45º when doing it, the shot feint thing, the through balls, selecting minitactics and using them easily in game, and some other stuff all came from PES and EA calls it the new controls or the new features (By the way you could be just one player in PES already, and that's since PES3) so don't you come and call PES an arcade game and FIFA the real deal, because that's bullcrap. Both games are fine but that right there that you said is just false.

I disagree with this, I have really screwed up some shots, sending them way off.

I totally agree. I don't have more than those two issues and seems like I have to try moving towards the ball now...

I think it's bit off to say "PES is so much better" when there haven't been actual PES demo yet...

I don't care if you actually prefer FIFA over PES, but calling PES arcade is just nonsense , for crying out loud, half of fifa improvements are copied from PES. Should I point some out? The crossing times thingie, the cross on where the ball is gonna fall, the sprint style of turning only 45º when doing it, the shot feint thing, the through balls, selecting minitactics and using them easily in game, and some other stuff all came from PES and EA calls it the new controls or the new features (By the way you could be just one player in PES already, and that's since PES3) so don't you come and call PES an arcade game and FIFA the real deal, because that's bullcrap. Both games are fine but that right there that you said is just false.

I have been reading previews from finnish game journalist and he is telling that PES game speed is too fast. Not saying it's arcade(which it obviously won't be quite sure), but it's too fast. If you are bashing FIFA because of demo how can you praise PES without playing the demo yet?

So far I have hear PES haven't evolved too well. Ie. gap between top players and "normal" players have been widened and top players shoot really hard even if they wouldn't be really "long shotters" in real life. So I really DO hope PES isn't going too arcade and too much about just top players... there is already too few teams/leagues, this wouldn't even more narrow time playing time and magnet of the gameplay.

when passing the ball just press towards the direction of the ball from the recieving player, because u take over the player recieving before the ball arrives to him, u actually have to move the player towards the ball...

well at least for me anyhow :P

Dang, you are totally right. It's better than automatic moving, this is getting better all the time...

I don't care if you actually prefer FIFA over PES

Did you actually read what I had written :eek: ,I did NOT say that I said:-

I love each equally but for different reasons


You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine Sinspaw OK , Just chill man(H)

Of course ,like I said I'm not trying to buy a war. I was just presenting you with the features that I think that FIFA got it right from PES, I'm not bashing FIFA like someone said. I'm just saying you can't call it arcade and have a lot of new features coming from that arcade game and suddenly fifa is the true simulation one.

I'm just saying you can't call it arcade and have a lot of new features coming from that arcade game and suddenly fifa is the true simulation one.

Ok , but I can call PES arcade & Xbox 360 Fifa08 is NOW a simulation because it's my opinion and that's what I think...............I love them both equally for different reasons :D
We will just have to beg to differ wont we.......:)

Okay guys,

So, as the FIFA 08 demo is out and after playing 30+ half matches, I will write now my opinion sincerely and with all do respect to all other footy games out there.

I have been playing FIFA games since the Sega Mega Drive, and every year it was my pleasure to buy it, plug it in and play the game, not only for the fun of it, but for love that I have for Football, a.k.a soccer. Year after year I dreamt of having a football game that can satisfy me, my experience started from Winning Eleven when they introduced a different feeling to footy games, I then shifted to Winning Eleven, 180 degrees, ignoring all the years that I had live with EA’s FIFA series, simple because I’m a person who loves a game for its perfection and level of realism; I don’t care if I bought some game for all the money I have or not, I don’t even care if all the websites gave it a 10 out of 10, I only care for the fact that the game is “Real”, not gaming real, but Reality Real, I’ll explain this after minute.

So, I started the FIFA 08 demo; nice interface, as usual with all footy games, engaging interface, but this year EA had fresh feel filled with dynamic lines and techno shapes pumping your system up ever before starting the game!

As a start, EA had Ronaldinho waiting for me to test the game through his magic legs and skills; I was impressed by how the speed was reduced and momentum was fixed from FIFA 07, I tried some moves and immediately figured out that committing tricks has to be done by holding the “RT” (Xbox 360) button then doing some flicks with the right stick. I loved the moves, very real, very organic, feels cool and makes me want to wear some virtual cloths and start jumping like him! Hehe. It was a very successful addition by EA. Till here, all good.

I then went into choosing the team I’ll play with, so I chose Barca as my home team against Man. United CPU away team, I then fixed all editable settings and started the loading process.

Tata, the match starts, nice intro, better cinematics, more natural than acted out. I then release that the graphics are lowered down compared to UEFA’s graphics, I felt down a little, but hey I didn’t even try the game.
The referee starts the game and I pass the ball… I can’t remember anything for here!!!!

I went into a state of ecstasy, a trancy feeling that I have never ever had from a sports game ever. I couldn’t know what I was doing at that moment; was I playing a game, or was I at the field back at football stadium in my local town? But wait! that is Ronaldinho passing the ball, and that is Rooney pushing the defense, and that is Henry shooting! My god, this is a game!! It is not reality, is it?

I played a game after the other, passed the ball one time after the other, I couldn’t believe what I was experiencing, jumping up and down with ever ball touch.

The game was so real that I’m sure ever “gamer” out there is going to hate, but believe me people, this is the game that I always wished to have, always wished to play, always wished to experience.
People, I swear by everything that god has created; I have never ever seen anything as real as FIFA 08 this in all of my life, I always wanted something that real, but wasn’t excepting to have it in this life time!

My talk is not constructive or explains enough about the game, it is only to show my full respect for EA’s team this year… bravo you guys, and you have done “The” game that I waited for forever. Congratulations guys on taking footy game into a higher level, different, engaging and most importantly “Real”, so real that none of all of the PES or old FIFA titles players are going to be able to compare to them; as a matter of fact, no one is allowed to compare this game to any other title out there, NO, NO, NO.

Welcome FIFA 08 on Xbox 360 to my life, bye to all other titles including the current gen FIFA 08 and the current gen PES 2008 on Xbox 360 and PS3. :)

I wish if I can cry for this game, but I would be named as a freak or something. I love FIFA 08 next gen. I LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT.

I swear to all what’ve god created that even if Mother Teresa herself comes to me and says that the game is not good, I will just ignore with a smile and say: “goodnight, happy dreaming about other stuff”.

Final words: FIFA 08 to FIFA 07 is like Sweets to Crap! enough said. :)

Okay guys,

So, as the FIFA 08 demo is out and after playing 30+ half matches, I will write now my opinion sincerely and with all do respect to all other footy games out there.

I have been playing FIFA games since the Sega Mega Drive, and every year it was my pleasure to buy it, plug it in and play the game, not only for the fun of it, but for love that I have for Football, a.k.a soccer. Year after year I dreamt of having a football game that can satisfy me, my experience started from Winning Eleven when they introduced a different feeling to footy games, I then shifted to Winning Eleven, 180 degrees, ignoring all the years that I had live with EA’s FIFA series, simple because I’m a person who loves a game for its perfection and level of realism; I don’t care if I bought some game for all the money I have or not, I don’t even care if all the websites gave it a 10 out of 10, I only care for the fact that the game is “Real”, not gaming real, but Reality Real, I’ll explain this after minute.

So, I started the FIFA 08 demo; nice interface, as usual with all footy games, engaging interface, but this year EA had fresh feel filled with dynamic lines and techno shapes pumping your system up ever before starting the game!

As a start, EA had Ronaldinho waiting for me to test the game through his magic legs and skills; I was impressed by how the speed was reduced and momentum was fixed from FIFA 07, I tried some moves and immediately figured out that committing tricks has to be done by holding the “RT” (Xbox 360) button then doing some flicks with the right stick. I loved the moves, very real, very organic, feels cool and makes me want to wear some virtual cloths and start jumping like him! Hehe. It was a very successful addition by EA. Till here, all good.

I then went into choosing the team I’ll play with, so I chose Barca as my home team against Man. United CPU away team, I then fixed all editable settings and started the loading process.

Tata, the match starts, nice intro, better cinematics, more natural than acted out. I then release that the graphics are lowered down compared to UEFA’s graphics, I felt down a little, but hey I didn’t even try the game.
The referee starts the game and I pass the ball… I can’t remember anything for here!!!!

I went into a state of ecstasy, a trancy feeling that I have never ever had from a sports game ever. I couldn’t know what I was doing at that moment; was I playing a game, or was I at the field back at football stadium in my local town? But wait! that is Ronaldinho passing the ball, and that is Rooney pushing the defense, and that is Henry shooting! My god, this is a game!! It is not reality, is it?

I played a game after the other, passed the ball one time after the other, I couldn’t believe what I was experiencing, jumping up and down with ever ball touch.

The game was so real that I’m sure ever “gamer” out there is going to hate, but believe me people, this is the game that I always wished to have, always wished to play, always wished to experience.
People, I swear by everything that god has created; I have never ever seen anything as real as FIFA 08 this in all of my life, I always wanted something that real, but wasn’t excepting to have it in this life time!

My talk is not constructive or explains enough about the game, it is only to show my full respect for EA’s team this year… bravo you guys, and you have done “The” game that I waited for forever. Congratulations guys on taking footy game into a higher level, different, engaging and most importantly “Real”, so real that none of all of the PES or old FIFA titles players are going to be able to compare to them; as a matter of fact, no one is allowed to compare this game to any other title out there, NO, NO, NO.

Welcome FIFA 08 on Xbox 360 to my life, bye to all other titles including the current gen FIFA 08 and the current gen PES 2008 on Xbox 360 and PS3. :)

I wish if I can cry for this game, but I would be named as a freak or something. I love FIFA 08 next gen. I LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT.

I swear to all what’ve god created that even if Mother Teresa herself comes to me and says that the game is not good, I will just ignore with a smile and say: “goodnight, happy dreaming about other stuff”.

Final words: FIFA 08 to FIFA 07 is like Sweets to Crap! enough said. :)

Your review makes me so badly wan't to buy this game, but from what othere people have been saying it dosent quite seem that way :(

But thanks for the info anyway mate! (Y)

Theres a video where Bayern 'Monaco' and Marsille are playing. When the Bayern player passed it to another player, it was very weak. But what I noticed is that the player ran to the ball. Many people that have the demo are saying that they wait. What is happening?

Theres a video where Bayern 'Monaco' and Marsille are playing. When the Bayern player passed it to another player, it was very weak. But what I noticed is that the player ran to the ball. Many people that have the demo are saying that they wait. What is happening?

They can't use controls(like I had problem). Players are running to ball if you are making them to move. It's not automatic, but you have to make that run.

I think most of ppl who have been critising controls etc. aren't just used time to really check out controls correctly.

Theres a video where Bayern 'Monaco' and Marsille are playing. When the Bayern player passed it to another player, it was very weak. But what I noticed is that the player ran to the ball. Many people that have the demo are saying that they wait. What is happening?

Dude, trust me on this, FIFA 08 is "HARD" it is so challenging that you might hate it if you keep thinking that FIFA 08 is just like all the other football games where "stuff" happens automatically! I assure you that out of 30+ (40+ now) matches I've played this situation happened only once or twice, and it was my mistake.

Making a player run towards your passed ball is all manual now, To do a perfect pass on FIFA 08 you should plan out the following:

1. Make sure that the player is in a good spot.
2. Make sure no one is watching him.
3. Make sure no other player from the other team is watching him, because he might simply predict that you are going to pass the ball, hens jump into its path and cutting it.
4. Make sure that you are ready to push your player towards the ball; many people are talking about "basics" of football and how even kids learn that they should run towards a passed ball to get it, well, this happens in FIFA 08 but no anymore automatic all the time, "YOU" should grow up the kid in you and make him learn how to play "real" football.

FIFA 08 is the most realistic football game ever created, it so good that FIFA 07 and UEFA are just crap in front of it. The old titles were just betas compared to FIFA 08.

Everything in the new FIFA needs thinking and slow building, you must pass and pass so that you can break the defense of the opponent team.

Offense runs into open spaces way better than any game I've seen out there; no robotic runs, all stuff happens in real life speed.

FIFA 08 next gen is so real that it can NOT be compared to any old football title, you simply can't! no more saying stuff like "but in PES, bla bla bla" or "but in FIFA 07 bla bla bla".

Players actually "bump" into each other with real human force and gravity power, if you are defending and you run in the path of your defending partner you are simply going to knock him down with your forced body.

breaking through defense is REAL: meaning that only little are the times where you might run using one single player through 4 defenders.

This game is magic while in Demo, my god how it will be when it is in final form wit all the commentary plugged in and all the teams running!! OMG, I can't wait.

I've been playing the DEMO for 2 days straight now and here are my thoughts.

Back in 2001 or so I switched full time to PES/WE and have been buying those games and renting FIFA and continually I've been more impressed with PES. I do miss the licensed teams, stadiums, leagues and cups but I found the gameplay to be much more organic than FIFA's which still felt stinted and not flowing as a true football game is.

I haven't played PES2008 yet, only seen video's but based on what I have seen so far I feel that FIFA2008 is actually making great gains in terms of gameplay on PES.

This weekend I watched a lot of European football on TV and I was actually quite surprised to find that the pace of the games and movement in the games seemed to more closely resemble what I had seen in the FIFA2008 demo rather than PES. I've heard a few coments on PES being more arcady than FIFA and I used to believe this wasn't true but following my revalations this weekend that may be the case.

Yes it plays slow but watch a real football game on TV. Players don't have turbo buttons and cannot turn 180 degree's on a dime. PES has managed to use an arcade style formula to simulate the 'flow' of a real football game. What FIFA seems to be attempting to do is to make the players themselves contribute to the flow of the game by giving them more real world momentum.

So far with FIFA2008 I've been very impressed. I still feel, even with the demo, the overall flow of the game needs to be tweaked slightly but it's getting very very close to a great game of football.

I compare what has happened this year with NHL2K8 and NHL08. The overall opinion is that NHL08 now seems to play a more simulation style game that NHL2K8 which is a complete turn around to what had happened over the last few years.

So it goes to show that EA can and do produce quality games and can meet the expectations of serious sports sim style gamers.

Hopefully they can do the same with FIFA2008 this year and I can switch back from PES to a more next-gen sim style game with 'FULL LICENSES' :)

Thanks for reading!!

reading these comments I can see how Fifa's gameplay this year has been completely revamped. I laughed when people said players just wait for the ball. Also when they said it takes to long to setup a long pass or long lob. When I first played the demo I realized how the pace and mechanics are almost spot on to real football in alot of ways. Alot of the scripting like players automatically moving to receive passes is gone. For former FIFA and PES players it will take alot of getting used to the gameplay mechanics. But without a doubt the physics and mechanics have overtaken PES.

And read the help with the controls. Its incredible how many new moves apart from dribbling that are in the game. Left and Right trigger are going to be your new best friends in FIFA 08. For cancelling runs or receiving passes or slow ball control. Its like whatever move I can think of in real football can be done in the game now, after reading the controls I was just using Ronaldinho to pull all kinds of moves, shots and dribbles. I have **** on EA for decades now but FIFA 08 and NA Live 08 have renewed my faith in them.

Dude, trust me on this, FIFA 08 is "HARD" it is so challenging that you might hate it if you keep thinking that FIFA 08 is just like all the other football games where "stuff" happens automatically! I assure you that out of 30+ (40+ now) matches I've played this situation happened only once or twice, and it was my mistake.

Making a player run towards your passed ball is all manual now, To do a perfect pass on FIFA 08 you should plan out the following:

1. Make sure that the player is in a good spot.
2. Make sure no one is watching him.
3. Make sure no other player from the other team is watching him, because he might simply predict that you are going to pass the ball, hens jump into its path and cutting it.
4. Make sure that you are ready to push your player towards the ball; many people are talking about "basics" of football and how even kids learn that they should run towards a passed ball to get it, well, this happens in FIFA 08 but no anymore automatic all the time, "YOU" should grow up the kid in you and make him learn how to play "real" football.

FIFA 08 is the most realistic football game ever created, it so good that FIFA 07 and UEFA are just crap in front of it. The old titles were just betas compared to FIFA 08.

Everything in the new FIFA needs thinking and slow building, you must pass and pass so that you can break the defense of the opponent team.

Offense runs into open spaces way better than any game I've seen out there; no robotic runs, all stuff happens in real life speed.

FIFA 08 next gen is so real that it can NOT be compared to any old football title, you simply can't! no more saying stuff like "but in PES, bla bla bla" or "but in FIFA 07 bla bla bla".

Players actually "bump" into each other with real human force and gravity power, if you are defending and you run in the path of your defending partner you are simply going to knock him down with your forced body.

breaking through defense is REAL: meaning that only little are the times where you might run using one single player through 4 defenders.

This game is magic while in Demo, my god how it will be when it is in final form wit all the commentary plugged in and all the teams running!! OMG, I can't wait.

Err dude I didn't say that I wanted the runs to be automatic I was just trying to clear something up. I believe as well as you do that it makes it more realistic to control your player to go to the ball and makes you feel more in control. But don't worry, I'm sure this game will be great as you've shown ;)

I've been playing the DEMO for 2 days straight now and here are my thoughts.

Back in 2001 or so I switched full time to PES/WE and have been buying those games and renting FIFA and continually I've been more impressed with PES. I do miss the licensed teams, stadiums, leagues and cups but I found the gameplay to be much more organic than FIFA's which still felt stinted and not flowing as a true football game is.

I haven't played PES2008 yet, only seen video's but based on what I have seen so far I feel that FIFA2008 is actually making great gains in terms of gameplay on PES.

This weekend I watched a lot of European football on TV and I was actually quite surprised to find that the pace of the games and movement in the games seemed to more closely resemble what I had seen in the FIFA2008 demo rather than PES. I've heard a few coments on PES being more arcady than FIFA and I used to believe this wasn't true but following my revalations this weekend that may be the case.

Yes it plays slow but watch a real football game on TV. Players don't have turbo buttons and cannot turn 180 degree's on a dime. PES has managed to use an arcade style formula to simulate the 'flow' of a real football game. What FIFA seems to be attempting to do is to make the players themselves contribute to the flow of the game by giving them more real world momentum.

So far with FIFA2008 I've been very impressed. I still feel, even with the demo, the overall flow of the game needs to be tweaked slightly but it's getting very very close to a great game of football.

I compare what has happened this year with NHL2K8 and NHL08. The overall opinion is that NHL08 now seems to play a more simulation style game that NHL2K8 which is a complete turn around to what had happened over the last few years.

So it goes to show that EA can and do produce quality games and can meet the expectations of serious sports sim style gamers.

Hopefully they can do the same with FIFA2008 this year and I can switch back from PES to a more next-gen sim style game with 'FULL LICENSES' :)

Thanks for reading!!

I guess it's cause I never played a Fifa game like this but I first despised the deomo but the more I play, the more I like it. It is very very hard. I wonder wat level difficulty the demos set at! The frustrating thing is that you can only play one half and you have to continually start new games and this interupts your discovery of the new elements. Although I've scored 3 goals in 15 matches, I am not fully aware of how the shooting works since I average .8 shots per game :( Sad! I think the grfx took a big hit but maybe its cause this is a demo (I hope). By the way, anyone know if this is an earlier build of what the final product will be like? and about EA, their NHL 08 is excellent. I give it a 9 out of 10 and that's consistant with gamerankings.com average of 89. It is unbelievably realistic. The NBA Live demo shows alot of promise too and Madden is supposed to be great this year as is Tiger Woods so thois leads me to believe Fifa 08 will also be great (I hope). This is a super stelklar year for EA Sports and that's rare.

To clear things up further, you can move the player to the ball. When you pass to a player, the controller icon highlights the receiving player before the ball gets there, with ample time. While this happens, move the player to run to the ball. It works very well. Good job EA.

To clear things up further, you can move the player to the ball. When you pass to a player, the controller icon highlights the receiving player before the ball gets there, with ample time. While this happens, move the player to run to the ball. It works very well. Good job EA.

I get what you are talking about man, but I think that less shots per game is even better! in a real life match and after "real" 90 minutes the total shots on goal are always under 20 in most of the matches, meaning that if we do some math, a match on FIFA should have at max 10 shots per game, which is the case in this demo knowing that is only 4 minutes to play with... Now I can put my matches on 20 minutes and feel satisfied! :)

And by the way the difficulty in the demo is set on Semi-Pro; which is level 2, there is Amateur, Semi Pro, Pro, World Class, and a hidden level which is the highest.

So imagine with me: if the game is this hard on Semi-Pro, how good it will be on World Class? :D OMG, can't waittttt.

I wonder what it would be like to spectate a CPU vs CPU on World Class. I imagine I would be sitting around the TV with my friends, having a couple of beers and watching the game. Would be like football on demand.

Anyhow, I'm still not completely satisfied with the way receiving players walk to the ball. They react slowly and for some reason other players who are further away from the ball beat me to it.

Also, it's extremely hard to win balls in the air. Nearly every cross gets headed towards my goal and when I cross the ball defenders always win.

In an earlier post I wasn't completely happy with the way you pass and shoot, but I'm getting a hang of it now.

I don't want to go amateur, so I hope they tune down the AI a little or at least have it make some more mistakes.

Either way, it's going to be a fantastic game.

A suggestion for everyone who is disappointed with the passing system- turn all of the 'assistance' options to manual or semi, instead of assisted. You will be able to see an immediate difference in the way your players can respond to passes, in that your players will feel much more mobile and free-roaming. Doing this especially reduces the feeling that players wait for incoming passes. When you have passing set to assisted, it really feels like players wait for the ball to come to them, but when you set it to semi or manual the passes rarely come right to the player so there is a much more evident emphasis on moving towards the pass.

Also, I finally discovered that using LT + RT serves as the 'cancel' button, which will allow you to get your players off of rails when they chase down balls hit into space. Now, so far it doesn't seem to be a perfect failsafe for the problem, but I find that about 75% of the time I am able to get my players off of rails and get them free-moving again.

You might want to keep the shooting assisted though, or at least semi, because on manual it seems like it's impossible to get a shot on goal.

And this is without a doubt the most difficult FIFA game I've ever played. I've played the demo about 30 times now and I've scored only 3 goals. It is SO hard to break down the defense, and once you are actually able to get a shot off the keepers are ridiculously good...this was a problem in 07 and UEFA and it's definitely making things more difficult this time around.

I can't get used to using the analogue stick for movement. As long as they continue to neglect the d-pad, this game will always be runner up to PES for me.

cant you edit that in settings ??

I have FIFA '07 for PS2, and other FIFA titles from the past, and have always been able to swict it so I can use the D pad for movement

I may have to get a PS3 just for this game from what you guys are saying. The real test will be how a club like Barcelona plays agains a club from Segunda Liga. The Segunda Liga club should have a hard time creating chances.

Guys, as cfdemarco and many are saying, the new system is hard, very real and crazily unpredictable! I can't understand what the CPU is thinking at any moment, I can only guess by the movement of the opponent players, meaning if I come in front of an opposite offense I have watch out for any open players out in the field! Which is just amazing.

FIFA 08 this year is a very perfect game for multi player and online gaming, each player has to be lead through your decisions, no players running around in dead spots at all, you can control the closest player to the ball and the farthest one, that where the right analog stick comes in handy.

When I'm playing, I found it very enjoyable to put all control settings to "Manual", and right there the game becomes heavenly amazing; not only the player don't move around in some type of rails, but they react very random, and you can simply pass the ball to any spot in the field and make the player run into that spot; in other words after testing the game with all settings on Manual, the "through ball" button suddenly has no effect ever, using the pass with a harder longer push did almost all the tricks for me. :)

Player now jump for the ball and fall on the ground with realistic animations, but wait, this is not all of it, when they fall down they can simply adjust there balance and cut any freakin animation!!! if Ronaldinho has high balance then expect him to fall down and get up quickly, but again, not all of the time.

Some players are good in "faking" a fall, just like in real life, and others are so bad that the referee actually gives a whistle then simply shift the free kick to the other team!! F*king amazing

PEOPLE, REMOVE, CLEAN, CLEAR YOUR HEADS FROM ANY THOUGHT OF THINKING THAT FIFA 08 IS LIKE ANY FOOTY GAME OUT THERE... No any freakin PES or Winning Eleven title can be compared to FIFA 08 next gen, even the so called "next gen" PES 2008 is simply a better version of PES current gen, and the same goes for FIFA 08 and 07 on current gen.

EA is shifting their forces all to the next gen consoles, and many of you I'm sure are sad to see that even the Menus in FIFA 08 current gen are still the same as the last year!! it is crazy I know, but for the good of next gen gaming.

The FIFA 08 demo on next gen is a good start for many people to try and test every possible move, try to think out of the box, be "creative", in other words, get all the PES crap out of your mind and build the new FIFA 08 system in your brain, you will not regret it ever.

Lol. How much do they give you for that?

;)

They give me a none scripted, most organic, most realistic, beautiful, simulative, ground braking, enjoyable, unpredictable, eye popping, game.

FIFA 08! ;)

"They give me nothing... They give me everything".

"This is FIFAaaaaaa"

:)

Guys, as cfdemarco and many are saying, the new system is hard, very real and crazily unpredictable! I can't understand what the CPU is thinking at any moment, I can only guess by the movement of the opponent players, meaning if I come in front of an opposite offense I have watch out for any open players out in the field! Which is just amazing.

FIFA 08 this year is a very perfect game for multi player and online gaming, each player has to be lead through your decisions, no players running around in dead spots at all, you can control the closest player to the ball and the farthest one, that where the right analog stick comes in handy.

When I'm playing, I found it very enjoyable to put all control settings to "Manual", and right there the game becomes heavenly amazing; not only the player don't move around in some type of rails, but they react very random, and you can simply pass the ball to any spot in the field and make the player run into that spot; in other words after testing the game with all settings on Manual, the "through ball" button suddenly has no effect ever, using the pass with a harder longer push did almost all the tricks for me. :)

Player now jump for the ball and fall on the ground with realistic animations, but wait, this is not all of it, when they fall down they can simply adjust there balance and cut any freakin animation!!! if Ronaldinho has high balance then expect him to fall down and get up quickly, but again, not all of the time.

Some players are good in "faking" a fall, just like in real life, and others are so bad that the referee actually gives a whistle then simply shift the free kick to the other team!! F*king amazing

PEOPLE, REMOVE, CLEAN, CLEAR YOUR HEADS FROM ANY THOUGHT OF THINKING THAT FIFA 08 IS LIKE ANY FOOTY GAME OUT THERE... No any freakin PES or Winning Eleven title can be compared to FIFA 08 next gen, even the so called "next gen" PES 2008 is simply a better version of PES current gen, and the same goes for FIFA 08 and 07 on current gen.

EA is shifting their forces all to the next gen consoles, and many of you I'm sure are sad to see that even the Menus in FIFA 08 current gen are still the same as the last year!! it is crazy I know, but for the good of next gen gaming.

The FIFA 08 demo on next gen is a good start for many people to try and test every possible move, try to think out of the box, be "creative", in other words, get all the PES crap out of your mind and build the new FIFA 08 system in your brain, you will not regret it ever.

Hehe, Jesus, how old are you? Your posts are making me cringe with embarrassment.

Your posts are making me cringe with embarrassment

sa33ood is just passionate about Fifa08 :)


But what he's is saying about Fifa08 is true, even if the way he's saying it is embarrassing to you, I on the other hand applaud his frank and honest opinion & agree with sa33ood about Fifa08 on xbox 360.:amika:

One thing that has irritated me for years in FIFA is the "overall" rating players have. That's absolutely crap - they should get rid of the "overall" rating and break EVERYTHING down like..dare I say it...PES.

One thing that has irritated me for years in FIFA is the "overall" rating players have. That's absolutely crap - they should get rid of the "overall" rating and break EVERYTHING down like..dare I say it...PES.

It will never be PES...... it will beter PES it in it's own way that's for shure....

and i think the time is now.......:jacko:

I don't want to turn this into a PES vs FIFA thread, but there are still some things that stop FIFA from being a "great" football game.

I just don't feel that much of a difference between say...Ronaldinho and Gary Neville. Yes, there is a difference in ball control but not much. Players are still just too slow when dribbling. Players just don't "feel" different - they all feel almost the same which is something I feel PES does much better than FIFA. I find it way too easy to score with headers aswell. I'd say 80% of my goals are from headers.

I don't want FIFA to become PES, I understand they are two completely different games. All I am saying is, the difference between each player is very, very small.

[QUOTE=SlowSilver;2402683]I just don't feel that much of a difference between say...Ronaldinho and Gary Neville. Yes, there is a difference in ball control but not much. Players are still just too slow when dribbling. Players just don't "feel" different - they all feel almost the same which is something I feel PES does much better than FIFA./QUOTE]

Imho PES already went too far away last season and by sounds of previews they are taking it even worse this season. So Ronaldinho will be lightningfast(while in reality he isn't too fast player) and top players will all shoot hard&accurate and then "normal" players can't shoot hard. So prolly Ronaldinho will have shooting power 20 or more harder than Taye Taiwo... while in reality Taye have a lot harder shot.

Sure there is gap between Ronaldinho and "normal player", but it's not so wide and it's about just some areas in the game, not as whole.

SlowSilver, and everybody else who loves football, The way our minds have been coded is to think of football games as a "game" more than a simulation; many people until now hate simulation games, because they just think is doesn't make sense, while the truth is that it makes much more perfect sense to the point that it might feel weired when compared to other "games".

Guys, I said it before and I say it again: do not compare FIFA 08 to any version of PES, including PES 2008, or to any version of old FIFA titles. the game now is very real, you should think out of the usual and reorganize your system to the real life football physics and laws.

SlowSilver, in real football matches, Ronaldinho dose not run like a tiger all the time like in PES! He actually sometimes suck so much that the couch sends him off right after the first half; Ronaldinho is a scary player, he dose stuff quick and in a sudden move, true, but only few times a match. Whenever I watch a Barca match I always want to see Ronaldinho run and break and burn stuff, but the reality: He doesn't; all the clips you see all over the web about his amazing skills are only seconds from the many many matches he played, and if you compare the amount of skill he has between reality and a game such as PES it becomes ridiculous and repetitive! It is like choosing Barca for Ronaldinho or Messi only!

Don't forget that in real matches all players do a good job, football is a "Team" game; when I use to play PES I use to think of Barca as a winning team all the time! now in FIFA 08 I think of them as a team that might or might not win, it all comes to the team work, making it possible for a lower stats team to win any match against Barca, just like in real life. It all comes to team work.

All football players have their good and bad moments, and that is the case in FIFA 08, you feel that everyone has an equal opportunity to shine, that's what makes me love it! It is a simulation more than just a game.

About the headers, it is expected at this stage to have easy headers but don't forget that the demo plays at 2nd level difficulty, you still have the third level and the forth level which I'm sure are going to kick our asses down! :)

sa33ood! I swear you have an answer for everything and IMO that is very good! keep it up!

Man, sa3300d you would be a very good games writer :P

SlowSilver, and everybody else who loves football, The way our minds have been coded is to think of football games as a "game" more than a simulation; many people until now hate simulation games, because they just think is doesn't make sense, while the truth is that it makes much more perfect sense to the point that it might feel weired when compared to other "games".

Guys, I said it before and I say it again: do not compare FIFA 08 to any version of PES, including PES 2008, or to any version of old FIFA titles. the game now is very real, you should think out of the usual and reorganize your system to the real life football physics and laws.

SlowSilver, in real football matches, Ronaldinho dose not run like a tiger all the time like in PES! He actually sometimes suck so much that the couch sends him off right after the first half; Ronaldinho is a scary player, he dose stuff quick and in a sudden move, true, but only few times a match. Whenever I watch a Barca match I always want to see Ronaldinho run and break and burn stuff, but the reality: He doesn't; all the clips you see all over the web about his amazing skills are only seconds from the many many matches he played, and if you compare the amount of skill he has between reality and a game such as PES it becomes ridiculous and repetitive! It is like choosing Barca for Ronaldinho or Messi only!

Don't forget that in real matches all players do a good job, football is a "Team" game; when I use to play PES I use to think of Barca as a winning team all the time! now in FIFA 08 I think of them as a team that might or might not win, it all comes to the team work, making it possible for a lower stats team to win any match against Barca, just like in real life. It all comes to team work.

All football players have their good and bad moments, and that is the case in FIFA 08, you feel that everyone has an equal opportunity to shine, that's what makes me love it! It is a simulation more than just a game.

About the headers, it is expected at this stage to have easy headers but don't forget that the demo plays at 2nd level difficulty, you still have the third level and the forth level which I'm sure are going to kick our asses down! :)

You are the man. Dont forget that there is a 5th level :D
Wish ign offer you a job so fifa can get higher in reviews from PES :bob:

FIFA is the real Simulator and PES is the real arcade football (H)

FIFA is the real Simulator and PES is the real arcade football (H)

Pfsts (lol), keep telling yourself that 'till it happens.

Am I the only one who sees flaws in sa33ood's texts?
Seriously he said ronaldinho like he would've said henry or etoo or whoever, that's beside the point that whole text of yours explaining ronaldinho's life of football. Henry doesn't run faster than any Man Utd defender. I'm pretty sure if you'd watch some relatively old games of arsenal you'd have a different idea. I shoot with zambrotta I almost forget it's a back right who's doing it. It's true, there's very little difference in terms of who's better and that's simply isn't right. It's natural that vidic wins a header against messi or etoo, it's unlike he'd sprint out henry while the second one began first ;_;

Guys, I said it before and I say it again: do not compare FIFA 08 to any version of PES, including PES 2008, or to any version of old FIFA titles. the game now is very real, you should think out of the usual and reorganize your system to the real life football physics and laws.

I tell you the same I told anamenos, keep telling yourself 'till that's true. I think FIFA has improved, but I'd rather play PES6 for another whole year than to spend with FIFA. It has way too many flaws to be 'lastable'.

What saddens me is that 99% of you guys haven't even tried PES and just say 'oh pes is arcady because that smart guy who loves FIFA said so' It's f*cking not. So what the speed is faster? In fifa 2008 you can't do a decent sprint for crying out loud, you can't do any faster goals than that thing. PES can be slow when you're playing with hard cpu. But I guess you wouldn't really know that would you?

Pfsts (lol), keep telling yourself that 'till it happens.

Am I the only one who sees flaws in sa33ood's texts?
Seriously he said ronaldinho like he would've said henry or etoo or whoever, that's beside the point that whole text of yours explaining ronaldinho's life of football. Henry doesn't run faster than any Man Utd defender. I'm pretty sure if you'd watch some relatively old games of arsenal you'd have a different idea. I shoot with zambrotta I almost forget it's a back right who's doing it. It's true, there's very little difference in terms of who's better and that's simply isn't right. It's natural that vidic wins a header against messi or etoo, it's unlike he'd sprint out henry while the second one began first ;_;



I tell you the same I told anamenos, keep telling yourself 'till that's true. I think FIFA has improved, but I'd rather play PES6 for another whole year than to spend with FIFA. It has way too many flaws to be 'lastable'.

What saddens me is that 99% of you guys haven't even tried PES and just say 'oh pes is arcady because that smart guy who loves FIFA said so' It's f*cking not. So what the speed is faster? In fifa 2008 you can't do a decent sprint for crying out loud, you can't do any faster goals than that thing. PES can be slow when you're playing with hard cpu. But I guess you wouldn't really know that would you?

Trust me mate. I ve been playing PES for a long time (PES3 PES4 PES5 PES6). The game just don't give me the felling of real football as the next generation fifa does. Especially i hate the arcade style the players are running. Just give the fifa demo more chance and you will find out how many thinks the new fifa offers. The animations the shooting system and passing is two steps above PES. The tempo in the game is really how the game played..

if they dislike what you like it doesn't mean that they are wrong and you are right.. and they aren't your enemy so that you should start the war if you can't make them agree with you..

btw fifa08 is really better than the older fifa series.. and of course is waaayyy better than pes :)

Pfsts (lol), keep telling yourself that 'till it happens.

Am I the only one who sees flaws in sa33ood's texts?
Seriously he said ronaldinho like he would've said henry or etoo or whoever, that's beside the point that whole text of yours explaining ronaldinho's life of football. Henry doesn't run faster than any Man Utd defender. I'm pretty sure if you'd watch some relatively old games of arsenal you'd have a different idea. I shoot with zambrotta I almost forget it's a back right who's doing it. It's true, there's very little difference in terms of who's better and that's simply isn't right. It's natural that vidic wins a header against messi or etoo, it's unlike he'd sprint out henry while the second one began first ;_;



I tell you the same I told anamenos, keep telling yourself 'till that's true. I think FIFA has improved, but I'd rather play PES6 for another whole year than to spend with FIFA. It has way too many flaws to be 'lastable'.

What saddens me is that 99% of you guys haven't even tried PES and just say 'oh pes is arcady because that smart guy who loves FIFA said so' It's f*cking not. So what the speed is faster? In fifa 2008 you can't do a decent sprint for crying out loud, you can't do any faster goals than that thing. PES can be slow when you're playing with hard cpu. But I guess you wouldn't really know that would you?

Sorry to say mate but your wrong I too buy fifa and pes every year and have done fot the last 4-5 years......

and in that time fifa have done so much to better the game were pes have done next to nothing to please us real football fans...:(

and i think that it is realy sad that year after year thay do it to us don't you.

you realy need to play more Fifa and stop slateing it.........

and i'm not saying that Pes is crap but i think that Fifa will be the better football game this year (NEXT-GEN)

What camera is every1 using? So far the cameras offered are killing the game for me. The default is too far out and the dynamic cameras skew the view as well as the depth causing it difficult to view good passing lanes esp on the far side. Does EA include new cams in the real game or are these the only ones offered?

So I just read through 5 pages of posts and I agree with what most are saying that this is a great version of FIFA. However, not one person has made a comment about about the absolutely horrid defense played by your CPU teammates and the perfect passing game played by the CPU.

Dear EA,

WHY do my CPU teammates back off of an attacker when he approaches the net inside the 18yd. box? Honestly, in a game I played this morning, Henry took the ball into the box the closer he got to the goal the more my teammates backed off. That is just stupid.

Where are my teammates on every CPU goal kick? The goal kick always goes to midfield to a CPU opponent and no one is within 10 yards of him. WTF?????

WHY on every CPU corner kick do my defenders leave a CPU attacker wide open in the box for an easy header (that's never gone in)?

WHY is it impossible to win headers in the box? (EDIT: Because no one is within 5 yards of the player receiving the cross)

Most will say switch control of the players. Easier said than done. It wouldn't matter anyway because the closest defender would never be able to make a play on the ball because he's too far away.

WHY does the CPU routinely have a pass percentage above 90%. EA, have you EVER watched a football match??????? I have yet to see a team have every long ball and cross land perfectly every time. Folks, that is not simulation. The sad thing is that the demo is on the Semi Pro level. At the higher levels it will be downright impossible to play because EA took the lazy route and just perfected all the CPU skills and probably did nothing with the AI. Higher levels should have better adaptable AI not perfect skills.

With all of that being said, EA did a great job with many many aspects of the game. Unfortunately, the game is unplayable because of the horrible defense.

Congrats EA. Back to the drawing board.

Has anyone noticed that the ref does not award you any fouls??? I've been tripped, stomped, swiped, and not one foul has been whistled in my favor. WTF?

Has anyone noticed that the ref does not award you any fouls??? I've been tripped, stomped, swiped, and not one foul has been whistled in my favor. WTF?Same here. I should have received a couple of penalties and freekicks, but nothing happened. In similar situations I floored the CPU and it's a freekick against me. Which go in the nets like 85% of the time. That's complete bollocks.

One time I didn't even hold the A button, just walked into another player and bam, yellow card, free kick and goal!

I got so upset and threw my controller through the room and unfortunately broke my left shoulder button. Which pisses me off even more.

Pfsts (lol), keep telling yourself that 'till it happens.

Am I the only one who sees flaws in sa33ood's texts?
Seriously he said ronaldinho like he would've said henry or etoo or whoever, that's beside the point that whole text of yours explaining ronaldinho's life of football. Henry doesn't run faster than any Man Utd defender. I'm pretty sure if you'd watch some relatively old games of arsenal you'd have a different idea. I shoot with zambrotta I almost forget it's a back right who's doing it. It's true, there's very little difference in terms of who's better and that's simply isn't right. It's natural that vidic wins a header against messi or etoo, it's unlike he'd sprint out henry while the second one began first ;_;



I tell you the same I told anamenos, keep telling yourself 'till that's true. I think FIFA has improved, but I'd rather play PES6 for another whole year than to spend with FIFA. It has way too many flaws to be 'lastable'.

What saddens me is that 99% of you guys haven't even tried PES and just say 'oh pes is arcady because that smart guy who loves FIFA said so' It's f*cking not. So what the speed is faster? In fifa 2008 you can't do a decent sprint for crying out loud, you can't do any faster goals than that thing. PES can be slow when you're playing with hard cpu. But I guess you wouldn't really know that would you?

Yes you can. Flick the right analogue stick and the player sprints. You can also move players towards the ball too but I guess some people don't bother to find out.

WHY does the CPU routinely have a pass percentage above 90%.

http://www.geocities.com/elhelmiey/images/fifa08_matchfacts00001.PNG

i have played the demo for so many times and usually cpu passing percentage is 65%-80% :confused:

but in fifa07 55%-75% as average.

http://www.geocities.com/elhelmiey/images/fifa08_matchfacts00001.PNG

i have played the demo for so many times and usually cpu passing percentage is 65%-80% :confused:

but in fifa07 55%-75% as average.

I've played the PC version as well and it blows away the 360 version. Your screenshot is from the PC version.

The 360 version is where the problems exist that I was talking about. Thus the name of the thread.

jackbauer, sorry man, but all the stuff that you were complaining about in your older post is not making any sense to me; zero sense man!

Don't get me wrong, and with no offense at all to you or your opinion, all your points seem to be faults made by you!

Let's take it step by step:

1. I have never experienced any defender backing off an attacker when they approach my goal! As a matter of fact, I control the defenders so that they cover the area perfectly enough that I enjoy being a defender! And if you mean by "backing off" defenders running back slowly, then that is perfectly normal, when an attacker is heading towards the opponent goal defenders should start backing off and creating some kind of a "vacuum" to keep short distance between them and their goal and then jumping right on the path of the attacker, and of course the last step is down by you to perfect when playing FIFA 08, this whole situation assures that if one defender slides and misses the ball another defender can cover up for him without leaving lots of space near the goal, this has been in real life football since football was created and nothing about it is wrong, UNLESS if you compare it to PES, in PES this situation doesn't happen at all, good for "gamers", not good for "love football gamers".

2. Man, are you joking?!!! Do you use your radar well enough? do you even switch players and move them around? For god's sake this is not PES or FIFA 07, it will not happen automatically, try practicing more and move the players much more than you use to do in old football games. I can't recall experiencing this situation at all, unless it was my mistake!

3. Another mistake by you! When the CPU or you shoot a corner kick, a yellow sign appears in the ground, this yellow sign is very similar to the one PES and some old FIFA titles, but this time it is different, why? in other football games, when this yellow sign appears it is always "just" leads you into where the ball is supposed to fall, but in FIFA 08 it has an extra job done by you, the new job that you should do is to make your player run towards that yellow sign, when you are running towards the sign forget about where you want to hit the ball, example: looking at the screen, The player you are controlling is bellow the yellow sign, the ball is in mid-air, you should make your player run for the ball and keep holding that direction in which he was running (up in my example), if you get the ball the player will hit the ball far of the goal and to the direction you were holding, in PES, you chose any direction you want and the computer will automatically make your player run to the yellow sign, in FIFA again, you do the running with the header, which is super more real and feels more random than ever, just like in real football games, if the defender has a small chance of getting the ball with his head he would run and hit the ball in the same direction he is running towards just to clear it away of the goal.

This was lots of explaining, I which I can do a video, in fact I'll try making one to show you what I mean, I'll see what i can do about this.

4. You can do headers every where if you follow what i told you in point 3. :)

5. You see again, I hate to say this again, but man, the reality is: you are so weak that the CPU is enjoying open, wide, free, long passes without you intercepting them. Don't get me wrong again, but if you let the CPU enjoy passing every ball between each other then this is definitely your mistake. I can't say anything more about this except that the maximum passing value the CPU get when I'm playing is 70% (72% to be precise), and that is only because I'm new.

EA has done a great job with FIFA 08 next-gen, but the problem this time is with us, and how our little gaming minds have been washed and programed to like football "PES" style! lame, old and robotic stuff. clear your brains, watch real football then play FIFA 08 and believe me you'll love everything about it.

If FIFA 08 was a lady I would be shagging her on my bed 700 years ago! lol, I'm not sick you guys. :p

just wanna say that fifa07 for xbox360 was simply poor, players seem to be like 60years old grandfas, there are such few leagues, there is no replay, hope the new title will be better

greetings 4 all

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

Fifa 08 is a great improvement from 07,i can't wait till next friday for the full game to come out.
I'm just downloading PES 08 from the market place to compare them,to see which demo is better.

I agree with everything sa33 typed up.

valios you may check the evoweb forum

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=40822&page=219

All those guys they were hardcore PESFANS...

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

so, PS2 will have snow, goalkeeper injuries and sendings off, but X-box version wont ??

sounds pretty bad to me...

so, PS2 will have snow, goalkeeper injuries and sendings off, but X-box version wont ??

sounds pretty bad to me...

believe me that's very trivial. 360 version is the way to go. its a completely different game.

well, on the 360 it feels way different then the pc version. The graphics are freaking amazing, and the players move more realistically then on the PC version. I did enjoy all of the camera angles on the pc version, seems like there are no angles except for the goals, beginning of the game, and the end of the game. Hopefully in the full version they will beef up the presentation. :)

So far I am also enjoying the demo for xbox 360. One question though. How can I switch the controller from the stick to the pad? which I am not that confortable with the stick.

So far I am also enjoying the demo for xbox 360. One question though. How can I switch the controller from the stick to the pad? which I am not that confortable with the stick.

I am wondering the same thing....

on PS2 version of FIFA 07, you can go to "settings" and change the controller configuration...can this be done on the X-box version of FIFA 08 ??

I am wondering the same thing....

on PS2 version of FIFA 07, you can go to "settings" and change the controller configuration...can this be done on the X-box version of FIFA 08 ??



I am sure you can but how is the question.

I am also using the xbox360 controller on my laptop and I can set it up from digital to analog and it works.

So far I am also enjoying the demo for xbox 360. One question though. How can I switch the controller from the stick to the pad? which I am not that confortable with the stick.

you can't. I know for afact. I too used to only use D-pad and found it weird to use stick but now I would never ever go back. Give it time, it is far superior and accurate, trust me.

you can't. I know for afact. I too used to only use D-pad and found it weird to use stick but now I would never ever go back. Give it time, it is far superior and accurate, trust me.

Damn !!! :(

you can't. I know for afact. I too used to only use D-pad and found it weird to use stick but now I would never ever go back. Give it time, it is far superior and accurate, trust me.

crap, why would they make the pad then? The stick is more accurate, you are right, I will give it a time I guess...

crap, why would they make the pad then? The stick is more accurate, you are right, I will give it a time I guess...

The pad was put on the 360 controller primarily for menus. In FIFA08 you use the d-pad to set tactics during the game. I know what you're saying because it took me time to adjust to the analog - but I also agree it allows for far superior control. For example, if you gently nudge the stick your player will trot - if you move the stick all the way over he will run. You can't get that degree of control from a D-pad.

As a matter of fact I play PES6 on my PS2 and I still use the d-pad as the playstation pad layout is a bit awkward yet when I play FIFA on X-Box I use the analog. The X-box / 360 layout seems easier and more comfortable to get the best from the analog sticks.

But then I guess it's down to personal choice in the end.

BTW 4 and a half days to go! GET IN!!

Amazing stuff:

http://www.canyoufifa08.com

:)

Where are you guys buying your Fifa from?

Are the leagues in the next gen version cut down again?

Where are you guys buying your Fifa from?

For any aussies in here Kmart will have PS3/360 Fifa 08 for $79 from thursday