View Full Version : **BREAKING NEWS" Mourinho Has Left Chelsea !!!


tracertong
19-09-2007, 11:49:PM
Well this week just gets better and better. :rockman:


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ticker/hub/football/index.html?item=1319593

RuiCosta_10
19-09-2007, 11:57:PM
wow, hard to believe!

RuiCosta_10
20-09-2007, 12:10:AM
yep, it's on Portuguese TVs already, i gotta tell you, worst thing Chelsea could do...

Moreira_Benfica
20-09-2007, 12:15:AM
Wtf

Bobby
20-09-2007, 12:15:AM
Hahaha (H)

Chelsea are so, so screwed.

tisker
20-09-2007, 12:16:AM
If true, it's both a shock and not a shock.

It's been clear that Abramovich is not happy with Mourinho over the past year or 2. He wants 2 key things that Mourinho has not delivered....Chelsea to win the Champions' League and Chelsea to play a very attractive style.

It will be interesting to see who replaces him at Chelsea and which club wins the race to sign him as their new manager.

Moreira_Benfica
20-09-2007, 12:17:AM
come to the NT

MaSsiVe
20-09-2007, 12:17:AM
unfortunately it's too soon for him to want to take over our NT, but I surely would love it!

Chelsea are now officially ****ed.

Moreira_Benfica
20-09-2007, 12:20:AM
this is so weird just 4 days away untill the man u chelsea game... theres something wrong here hm and russian billionarie must have gone off on eachother after the rosenberg game

big al
20-09-2007, 12:20:AM
very cool news , come over to us and we will send you rijkaard haha

RuiCosta_10
20-09-2007, 12:22:AM
Roman is an idiot, a complete idiot.

Fernandez
20-09-2007, 12:30:AM
Hahaha (H)

Chelsea are so, so screwed.

I'm doing what Bobby did.

Tiago_10
20-09-2007, 12:30:AM
Wow.. Abramovic must've been pretty mad.

Bad decision. But perahps Mourinho can now come to the NT.. :p

xbox6
20-09-2007, 12:37:AM
I will steal (again) a line:

You've got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, in this link: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=464751&cc=5739, it says that it could be a rumor. But if the river sounds............

I've gotta say I'm shocked, but also, I'm happy that this asshole won't be talking trash anymore about Rafa and the boys when he comes to Anfield.

And, about what would be his future job, well, maybe Scolari days will be done after Euro 2008, so............

Meanwhile, he can go to WWE. Maybe his bravado will fit in a pro wrestling ring :p

tracertong
20-09-2007, 12:38:AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=482822&in_page_id=1779&ito=newsnow

Johnny_Big
20-09-2007, 12:44:AM
Bad move from Chelsea. No one will have a hand in that squad.

...

Now, Scolari wins the Euro 2008, goes back to Brazil, and Mourinho comes to launch the WC 2010 win for Portugal. Correct? (H)

[/dream mode]

:(

MaSsiVe
20-09-2007, 12:46:AM
I'd prefer rather have it this way: Scumlari immediately goes **** himself and Mourinho immediately takes over our NT.

Tiago_10
20-09-2007, 12:48:AM
I'd prefer rather have it this way: Scumlari immediately goes **** himself and Mourinho immediately takes over our NT.

(Y)(Y)(Y)

Johnny_Big
20-09-2007, 12:50:AM
(H) (H)

I always defended Scolari.

:(

Daz
20-09-2007, 12:50:AM
then Mclaren takes Chelsea job and Scolari takes England job? :p

MaSsiVe
20-09-2007, 12:56:AM
and by the end of the season Abramovich commits suicide?
gentlemen, place your bets!

Moreira_Benfica
20-09-2007, 12:57:AM
I Say sevillas coach goes to chelsea, scolari to sevilla, mourinho to portugal

Tiago_10
20-09-2007, 01:04:AM
Scolari should go to the wwe :alex:

MaestroZidane
20-09-2007, 01:12:AM
I'm left very surprised... BUT!! is this 100% or just a big BS rumor turn into a story??

Moreira_Benfica
20-09-2007, 01:16:AM
To bad Toronto FC just signed Mo Johnson to an extension, we could have had a go at Jose


:(

$teauA
20-09-2007, 01:17:AM
Come to Steaua Jose :(

MaSsiVe
20-09-2007, 01:18:AM
the most hated and desired coach in the world (H)

ShearerM4
20-09-2007, 01:19:AM
Whatever happened, whether he jumped or was pushed, this is pretty sensational news. Typical of what this Chelsea "dynasty" in all about too.

henry#14
20-09-2007, 01:26:AM
Lolzers!

Now, he should come to Juventus and Ranieri should go coach some Serie C1 team or some ****. As a bonus, he won't pop off so much in Italy; the Mafia don't take no **** son.

KingPaulV
20-09-2007, 01:50:AM
wow...all that crap in the summer and now they want to fire him....amazing

ADC1987
20-09-2007, 01:54:AM
I'd prefer rather have it this way: Scumlari immediately goes **** himself and Mourinho immediately takes over our NT.

;););););)

Avalanche
20-09-2007, 02:10:AM
I was waiting until I saw the story on a reputable site, which I have, so...

Wow. Just wow. I know there was friction between him and Roman, but I thought it was cleared up. Maybe Zé felt that the situation was untenable to the point where he couldn't work without interference in first team affairs.

MaestroZidane
20-09-2007, 02:11:AM
Chelsea website has posted the news, so looks like it is official. Still very surprised by the news. although gotta handed to him for taking the initiative rather than keep taking all that S**T from Roman.

ngyc
20-09-2007, 02:28:AM
wow. that was harsh and stupid move by chelsea.

Kulixs
20-09-2007, 02:29:AM
At least he's done it 4 days before Chelsea play us. It was definitely shocking, I thought he would have been at Chelsea for awhile despite the problems he and Abramovich had. This could lead to some of the top players becoming unsettled at Chelsea now.

It is by mutual consent reportedly, so its not harsh from Roman. Most likely thing to happen would have been Mourinho wanting to leave, and Chelsea would have been stubborn and let him walk out of the door.

Help?
20-09-2007, 02:34:AM
No ****IN' WAY!!!! Abramovich is like a stupid glory-hunting fan. 3 bad games and he panics. This is a bad time to drop the manager, especially Mourinho. For all his trash-talking, i saw Mourinho as the only one that could compete with Ferguson for the title of best manager in the world. Its obvious why he left, but the timing couldn't have been worse. Does Roman has somebody waiting in line that will suit his ambitions better?

zlojack
20-09-2007, 02:37:AM
Mind-boggling.

mega montana
20-09-2007, 03:01:AM
shocking!

interesting to see where he ends up

big al
20-09-2007, 03:11:AM
this news is more shocking than britney spears in the mtv awards

10Ruud
20-09-2007, 03:13:AM
Good...I was tired of his silly excuses and accusations everytime Chelsea lost or tied a game.

mnj2x
20-09-2007, 03:38:AM
I cant believe no one stood for mourinho.... yes he is cocky and arrogant but hes definitely one of the best managers around. What a loss for chelsea..

rony31
20-09-2007, 03:47:AM
haha, Jose was probably like "either Sheva leaves or I leave" and after Abra got his tongue out of Sheva's asshole, made the decision (H) what a huge loss for Chelsea, any rumours on Jose's replacement?

Bobby
20-09-2007, 03:56:AM
Howard Wilkinson hopefully.

Bonzi
20-09-2007, 04:01:AM
All the Portuguese are defending Mourinho (H)

Hopeunited
20-09-2007, 04:01:AM
I bet it went like this:

After a loss to Villa and a draw with Rovers, Roman comes to Jose, "PEEK CHEVCHENKO!" Under pressure, Jose finally gives in and agrees to start Sheva against RBK. Sheva scores and makes some nice moves. After the game, Roman says, "I TOLED YOO!" and Jose does not agree, Roman threatens to fire him and Jose says go **** yourself, and tada!

PS: not to mention that Jose elected to put JT up front and pull Sheva to midfield. Roman must've **** his speedo.

The Don't
20-09-2007, 04:10:AM
That was certainly out of the blue.

Thelonious
20-09-2007, 04:14:AM
Things seemed to have gone stale at Chelsea for him, with no real big signings this season they havn't really progressed as a side, they should get rid of Kenyon as well, he is a terrible transfer negiotor Man Utd have done much better after he went.
I can see Chelsea dropping out the top 4 now lol.

dipset
20-09-2007, 05:16:AM
Mourinho leaves..... im sad, very very very sad.. i am shocked and still cant believe this. WTF is happenin at Chelsea... this is terrible, especially right before Man Utd, this is terrible, our season has taken a huge drop, very unstable stuff going on.. very very sad. This is the manager who won us our first prem title in 50 yrs, this is the manager who won right away when got hired at Chelsea, few managers can come to a club and turn it around for two back two back titles with clubs like Man U, Arsenal, Lpool . Where is the loyalty.

Im sorry but losing a manager like Mourinho is a bigger loss than losing any of our players. My confidence on winning the league now have just gone down the hole and im being honest. But whoever takes over , Mourinho is gonna be a hard act to follow, Mourinho is a CHELSEA LEGEND , i dont know wat to think now and of course im never going to believe Kenyon again, he said Mourinho would stay for a lonnnggg time and now hes gone, he said Robben wasnt goin anywhere, Robben left. ........ speechless

sh****TTT!! man , honestly im just thinkin if Tottenham will snatch him up. And i have a feelin Lampard Carvalho and couple player might leave now.. this is bull.. Abramovich has just made the biggest mistake in his Chelsea days so far.

goal_machine84
20-09-2007, 05:34:AM
:| :evil::crazyboy::confused::X:crazyboy::evil:

I bet Jose will coach Barca next season....or even sooner ;)

dipset
20-09-2007, 05:35:AM
i have a feelin Tottenham officials are rushing over to Mourinhos ppl

AlienSeafood
20-09-2007, 05:46:AM
they said he texted 5 senior players...any guesses?

terry, lampard, cech, drogba, joe?

yoyo913
20-09-2007, 05:56:AM
dipset I think its time to switch teams buddy

Help?
20-09-2007, 06:01:AM
You guys are expecting a huge Chelsea downfall straight-away, it seems. I would love for them to pull a Bolton, but i don't see things changing too much, maybe they are not huge title contenders anymore, but still contenders nonetheless.

dipset
20-09-2007, 06:18:AM
dipset I think its time to switch teams buddy

not in my book, of course i'll be supporting Chelsea, i mean Abramovich has done alot for the club .. BUt .. im going to support where ever Mourinho goes, Mourinho is a Chelsea legend. I doubt Mourinho will be managing this year. Im hearin ppl say Tottenham, Inter Milan, Barca (which i doubt) , Juventus, funny if West Ham got into the picture and with all the money they ve got now.

ForzaSerieA
20-09-2007, 06:20:AM
Abramovich to soon follow, so get your bets on. He's had enough and is going to an Italian club.

garlei
20-09-2007, 07:45:AM
dipset's reaction deserves a positive rep. Chelski fans ****ting their pants...

Hope this means a weakened Chelsea at United. I hope all the players are all pissed off at this new Grant dude as caretaker manager.

smoove
20-09-2007, 08:29:AM
I doubt mourinho will coach this year.
Tottenham? you gotta be kidding me.

Dipanjan
20-09-2007, 08:36:AM
Didier Deaschamps is the new contender.

didy
20-09-2007, 08:47:AM
No ****IN' WAY!!!! Abramovich is like a stupid glory-hunting fan. 3 bad games and he panics. This is a bad time to drop the manager, especially Mourinho. For all his trash-talking, i saw Mourinho as the only one that could compete with Ferguson for the title of best manager in the world. Its obvious why he left, but the timing couldn't have been worse. Does Roman has somebody waiting in line that will suit his ambitions better?

I totally agree man. I hate the way this prick (Abramovich) runs the club he is like a 12 on a Fifa game, expects to buy a couple of players and win everything! I homo gets lost back to Russia. Disgusting.

VanTheMan
20-09-2007, 09:17:AM
they said he texted 5 senior players...any guesses?

terry, lampard, cech, drogba, joe?

well...
not exactly

terry " im leaving....you can too...get urself in the media for some hairgel ad"

lampard "im leaving....my nuts are sore now and roman doesnt like em..come join me at leeds when i coach em"

drogba " im leaving....the big russian daddy always whoops my arse"

sheva "thanks alot u mthafcker...im leaving cause of you...go give roman a handjob"
--------------------------------------------------------------

bye bye chelsea n the special one....
hoe its a nice domination period farewell on sunday

VanTheMan
20-09-2007, 09:20:AM
I totally agree man. I hate the way this prick (Abramovich) runs the club he is like a 12 on a Fifa game, expects to buy a couple of players and win everything! I homo gets lost back to Russia. Disgusting.

true...
roman could have done alot to keep him...
look at wenger n fergie....they've had bigger slumps over the years but not parted...........
and as if che will get a better manager than jose
i'll miss his speeches though
"i sink chelsea are gone"

Ubik Valis
20-09-2007, 09:22:AM
dipset I think its time to switch teams buddy

Like you switched from Roma to Inter?

Dipanjan
20-09-2007, 09:26:AM
http://www.espnstar.com/epl/newsdetails.cmd?id=7006049

Tizmo
20-09-2007, 09:43:AM
Yes, it's official.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm

fender
20-09-2007, 10:08:AM
Chelsea just shot themselves in the foot, not that i'm complaining.

bruno167
20-09-2007, 10:13:AM
Wow. I never expect that he left Chelsea now. :O
I think it was better for him if he had left Chelsea last season not now.

I think it´s the end of Chelsea.


Well he can be back to Porto now to replace our crapy coach lol:amika:(H)

Capela
20-09-2007, 10:24:AM
everyone knows what are the reasons for his departure but mourinho is not the give up type
he must have been really tired of this management issues with abramovich, kenyon, etc
chelsea is completely screwed, you lost one of the best managers in the world, the one who won 6 competitions in 3 years. i don't think that there will be a manager as successful as mourinho was in chelsea for a long time

as for where he is going i don't have a clue. all major clubs have managers so maybe he'll rest for a while

Vinnie Jones
20-09-2007, 10:40:AM
It´s not the end of the world for Chelsea. If Roman uses his check book again and Chelsea gets a coach like Lippi they are still strong contenders in my book. The biggest question here is which players will opt to leave Chelsea in the end of the season. Then we will see the real damage made to the club by his departure. Those rumours about Barcelona are laughable, the club hates Mourinho and have an attacking mentality and gameplan that conflicts with Mourinho´s tactical guidelines.
As portuguese i can only dream of the day he will take over our national team, not in the near future although :(

dipset
20-09-2007, 10:44:AM
ok NOw Avram Grant is managing the side for MAN UTD, this is utter bull s**t no way should he be inn charge, its STEVE CLARKE , this is unf***in believable. Im not a fan of Grant , wats goin on is a joke, Abramovich has just made us look like fools, this Club is the definition of pathetic right now, losing one of the best managers in the world at this time of the season, Is Abramovich not smart enough to realize its soo early in the season and the Champions League group stages consists of 5 MORE GAMES.

Tom
20-09-2007, 10:56:AM
God that's the ****test thing Chelsea could have done. Anyway, just gotta say, from a Liverpool point of view im delighted to see Mourinho go, since there's no way you can get a better manager. What with Grant and his Israeli success (H)

However, as a football fan im gutted to see Mourinho leave. Before 2004 the only squabbling we had was between Wenger and Fergie, since then he's made the EPL into what it is now, a right laugh. Sadly missed, stupid stupid Roman.

Bobby
20-09-2007, 11:12:AM
Steve Clarke will be gone in 2 weeks.

Capela
20-09-2007, 12:06:PM
60 unbeaten league games
2 champions league semi finals
2 carling cups
21 defeats in 185
2 premiership titles
1 FA Cup
2 PremierLeague manager of the year awards

:|

Sir Calumn
20-09-2007, 01:14:PM
I'm very depressed to see the greatest manager in the world right now, possibly the greatest of all time, leave the Premiership and Chelsea Football Club. However, I am very confident that we will get an excellent replacement and I am certain that Chelsea will win the treble this year.

Zlatan
20-09-2007, 01:19:PM
WTF!? I came on here thinking this was a joke.

Well anyway intresting, let's see how Chelsea will handle this.

Theodorakis
20-09-2007, 02:48:PM
apparently Roman have paid £20.000.000 for contract termination.. hahah damn..

$teauA
20-09-2007, 03:07:PM
Hagi just announced he won't continue at Steaua! Come on Jose, come to usssssssssssss :(

Dream Team
20-09-2007, 03:09:PM
apparently Roman have paid £20.000.000 for contract termination.. hahah damn..Mourinho must be devastated.

Avalanche
20-09-2007, 03:37:PM
The real manager at Chelski is now Roman Abramovich. Grant's only a puppet, much like how Romanov employs a new figurehead manager on a near-monthly basis at Hearts.

In other words, don't be surprised if he leaves before Christmas, citing "philosophical differences" or something similar.

Bobby
20-09-2007, 03:43:PM
If he ends up at Juve I bet Ranieri kills him with his bare hands.

farmboy
20-09-2007, 04:21:PM
However, I am very confident that we will get an excellent replacement and I am certain that Chelsea will win the treble this year.Now that's blind optimism (no offense).

pede54
20-09-2007, 05:01:PM
Well, Jose said that the only time he would leave Chelsea is when he is offered the job as coach of the Portuguese Natonal side.

Scolari has been banned for 4 games because of his disgraceful behaviour the other night and I believe he is about to get the sack. Jose will finally get the job that he has craved all his life.

It's a day of mixed emotions for me. On one hand I'm very sad to see him go. He is a fantastic coach and has bought much success to Chelsea. Sure he rubbed people up the wrong way sometimes but that was a plus as far as Chelsea fans are concerned.

It's obvious how much he is feared as a coach when I read the between the lines of some of the stupid posts in this thread. I sense a major feeling of relief from fans of other clubs. Everone knows that as a coach he is top class but to say that Jose IS chelsea is just plain stupid.

To be honest I don't think that Jose could take us much further than he has done. As much as I hate to say it, I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward.

His style of coaching bought Chelsea much success that is true and he will always be a chelsea legend. The most successful manager that we have ever had, but I think we are all aware that something has been missing lately. His heart has NOT been in it at all this season, that was obvious just from the interviews that he has given lately. He has looked depressed and his normal humour just has not been there.

So it's business as usual. Jose out and Avram in (for now anyway). There's nothing that we as fans can do but get behind him and Clarkey. I dont see much change on the pitch apart from the fact that maybe Grant will do what Jose never did, and that's allow these superb players that we have to go out there and express themselves. Free of constaint, these players should now step to the fore and tear the EPL open.

Something had to change at Chelsea because although Jose took the EPL by storm in his first two seasons, his tactics had become very predictable. Proof of this is the ease with which opposing teams have managed to contain us this season. The game with Rosenborg was a fine example. We not only booed off the team at Stamford Bridge that night, we also booed off Jose for turning our barnstorming team into boredom personified. We as fans are tired of the lack of goals and the lack of complete dominance. We needed to move forward and begin to combine winning with winning wth a little style. I don't think Jose could quite manage that.

Lets face it, if a coach cannot produce a side that play attractive and WINNING football with all those players at his disposal, then really I think it's gotta be time to call it a day.

I am a Chelsea supporter. Through thick and thin I will always be a Chelsea supporter. Whoever the coach is I will always be a Chelsea supporter. I supported Chelsea long long before Jose Mourinho was ever heard of and his departure does not change anything. Actually this could turn out to be very positive indeed. I am hoping so. If not, so what? My life still goes on. It's only football FFS.

Anyway thanks Jose for all you did. You will always be cherished by Chelsea fans and I wish you all the luck in the World .(Y) Erm...but not when Portugal play England of course:evil:

Tom
20-09-2007, 05:35:PM
Ever the optimist Pete, i love you dude cos you make me laugh, but god you say some stupid stuff at times.

But still, many many valid points in the above post, just a few silly ones.

Agree with you though, that most (if not all) clubs feared Chelsea under Jose. I just think your SLIGHT, and it is only SLIGHT abuse of Jose's quality this season, and saying that he couldnt take the club any further - is misplaced, and that you're only saying it because he's gone.

Apart from that, decent post and i agree in the most part.

Filipower
20-09-2007, 05:53:PM
good post Pete, but i have to say throwing him off when things start going worse is not the best move, or else Roman will catch himself firing a lot of managers in the coming years..

anyway, mourinho won't come to the NT just yet, and he'll probably "rest" untill the end of the season...at least that's the smart thing to do..

Stotty
20-09-2007, 06:02:PM
I think the best thing for the club now would be for Roman to take the managerial job himself and wreak havoc.

tracertong
20-09-2007, 06:02:PM
Chelsea say Mourinho had to leave.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7004780.stm

pede54
20-09-2007, 06:17:PM
Cheers Tom.

If you visit Chelsea fansites, you will find that I'm not the only one who thinks Jose's time had to be limited. It's not just this seasons problems. This season is still to young to be condemning him for failure of any sort. After all we have the same points at this stage of the season as we had last season, so although the performances have been dissapointing we are still in contention.

I hear from people at Chelsea that Jose has also been at loggerheads with some of the senior Chelsea players too. They have also not been happy with Jose lately. It seems he would not even consider listening to the opinions of his Captain. It is being said that after Jose and JT had finished arguing, that Jose threatened to drop JT from the team and as Captain. If this is true then Jose had indeed lost it.

JT it seems made his feelings clear to Jose that he didn't like the way that Jose compared some Chelsea players to 3rd rate eggs, feeling that this did nothing at all to boost those players confidence, in fact it did the opposite. Tension in the dressing room it seems might have had a lot to do with Jose leaving.

Jose in the past has always boosted the players morale and confidence but to come out with such a massive put down angered the club captain and many of the players. If a manager loses the dressing room then its game over as far as he is concerned.

We are used to Jose blaming everyone but himself, its something that he has always done, but to turn on the players like that after they followed his instructions to the letter is unforgivable really.

To go on TV and to slag off those players who worked so hard for him was the breaking point for JT. Never before had Jose turned on the players as an excuse for failure. He has always protected his players in the past. I think this was a sign that he at last was running out of people to blame but himself. I can understand the players feeling pissed off with him. Once that happened there was only gonna be one outcome.

pede54
20-09-2007, 06:28:PM
good post Pete, but i have to say throwing him off when things start going worse is not the best move, or else Roman will catch himself firing a lot of managers in the coming years..

anyway, mourinho won't come to the NT just yet, and he'll probably "rest" untill the end of the season...at least that's the smart thing to do..


Fili, Chelsea have a long history of letting successful coaches leave. Jose aint the first and he won't be the last. ;)

Filipower
20-09-2007, 06:34:PM
i know but i only thought Chelsea would give some credit to the guy who gave 'em the best years of their history...i'm not feeling sorry for Mourinho or anything, quite the opposite really, i mean now he'll go wherever he wants and he's millions of euros richer :p, but it almost feels like firing alex fergusson really..

i don't believe chelsea will start losing every single game now and end up at division three, but i also don't believe that they'll win much..i mean if Abramovich wanted the champions league trophy, a move like this ain't going to get him that very soon..

Tom
20-09-2007, 06:38:PM
Nah i see what you're saying Pete, but i just don't agree. I think it was the Express that read the headline about JT losing it with Jose - enough said.

Two things, one, no player is bigger than the club, and i agree that no manager is bigger than the club either, i agree. But we all know this has come from the top, from Roman, from Kenyon, maybe from Buck - i don't know the other shareholders who hold some form of power. And it's come because of the fact that Jose had essentially done things to piss them off, it was clear he never wanted Andriy Shevchenko - blatantly clear. Or Grant for that matter. Things such as these, where his responses were bordering on actually going public on such matters, were the problem.

Secondly, it's inane to say that Jose had lost the dressing room. I'm sure there were some who were none too happy about his methods, but as with all clubs, those players would have been the ones playing. Again, Shevvy and Ballack. Or maybe even people like Cuidicini, just generally players not getting much of a chance. But the rest of the team were always Jose's players, and to suggest that he'd "lost" the dressing room is a joke.

However, i do agree with your point that maybe Jose's heart wasnt entirely in it anymore, as he did seem to carry the persona of a man destined for death row - prolonging his verdict with the more wins he could amass. To get rid of that lingering ... shadow of death that seemed to constantly encircle Jose is a good thing at least! Every single day in the press we had more and more speculation, and you're right - with that gone maybe it'll be better.

But the fact of the matter for me, is that Mourinho had the backing of the team, and as a tactician and strategist, he was the best manager in the world. Replacing him with Grant, who, i admit, i do not know much about other than he spent many years in Israel, is not the same.

But hey, good for all us guys, cos i'll bet money right now that at least this season - you won't be as good as you would be if you still had Jose at the helm. It will be interesting to see who takes over on a long term basis though - if not Grant.

pede54
20-09-2007, 06:45:PM
Fili, Well mate, that seems like the likely outcome on the surface, but you know what football is like. It is just so unpredictable. I don't quite know why but I actually feel excited now by what the future may hold for us. As you rightly say, we are hardly gonna drop intop the 3rd division are we.

The chances of doing even better than before are just as likely as the club doing worse is it not?

Nobody knows Grant. Nobody had heard of Wenger either before he came to Arsenal, so I think the guy deserves his chance.

yoyo913
20-09-2007, 06:49:PM
I actually think Inter would be a great place for Morinho, I think his style would go well in Seria A. Morratti (Inter owner) would allow him to run the show. And Mancini hasn't started the year too well, especially with yesterdays loss to Fener.

Filipower
20-09-2007, 06:50:PM
absolutely, there's no way chelsea are going to do worse than they did before mourinho (although i hope they do :$), but i do have a feeling Grant won't last long, Roman doesn't seem the type of guy who would miss an opportunity like Rijkaard, Lippi or such..

pede54
20-09-2007, 06:52:PM
Nah i see what you're saying Pete, but i just don't agree. I think it was the Express that read the headline about JT losing it with Jose - enough said.

Two things, one, no player is bigger than the club, and i agree that no manager is bigger than the club either, i agree. But we all know this has come from the top, from Roman, from Kenyon, maybe from Buck - i don't know the other shareholders who hold some form of power. And it's come because of the fact that Jose had essentially done things to piss them off, it was clear he never wanted Andriy Shevchenko - blatantly clear. Or Grant for that matter. Things such as these, where his responses were bordering on actually going public on such matters, were the problem.

Secondly, it's inane to say that Jose had lost the dressing room. I'm sure there were some who were none too happy about his methods, but as with all clubs, those players would have been the ones playing. Again, Shevvy and Ballack. Or maybe even people like Cuidicini, just generally players not getting much of a chance. But the rest of the team were always Jose's players, and to suggest that he'd "lost" the dressing room is a joke.

However, i do agree with your point that maybe Jose's heart wasnt entirely in it anymore, as he did seem to carry the persona of a man destined for death row - prolonging his verdict with the more wins he could amass. To get rid of that lingering ... shadow of death that seemed to constantly encircle Jose is a good thing at least! Every single day in the press we had more and more speculation, and you're right - with that gone maybe it'll be better.

But the fact of the matter for me, is that Mourinho had the backing of the team, and as a tactician and strategist, he was the best manager in the world. Replacing him with Grant, who, i admit, i do not know much about other than he spent many years in Israel, is not the same.

But hey, good for all us guys, cos i'll bet money right now that at least this season - you won't be as good as you would be if you still had Jose at the helm. It will be interesting to see who takes over on a long term basis though - if not Grant.


The stuff I wrote was told to me by Gavin Peacock and believe me mate, he knows about everything that happens at Chelsea. If he says that JT and Jose argued then argue they did.

He also said that contrary to many many reports Jose was actually very happy to have Sheva come to the Bridge, even if he did think that maybe he might be a little too old now. It's the press as usual that has made this lie into a fact even though it has never been commented on by Chelsea, Jose or Sheva.

dipset
20-09-2007, 06:56:PM
well i do kno somethin bout Grant and this is ONE fact, hes noo manager that plays pretty football, hes bout winning just like Jose but of course no where near the caliber. The Israeli side he managed was all about grinding out results. Grant is Roman's puppent, good friends, hopefully RA doest select team . One thing to remember tho is that without Abramovich we wouldnt of gotten Jose. And Abramovich's ambition towards the club is wat any supporter would love to hear from the owner, so respect must be shown. But the way this was dealt with is pure idiotic. And to find a manager that can lock wits with Arsene, Sir Alex, and Benitez will be pretty tough.
One thing is for sure i still support Chelsea, but i do not welcome Grant, i dislike him, any other person could of taken over but Grant nope, not in me. Glad hes a short term replacement

pede54
20-09-2007, 07:23:PM
I feel for you dip. I can see this is difficult mate.

You gotta remember that ALL OF US are putting Grant on probation. We don't know if he will be a flop or a success. The players he has at Chelsea are a hell of a lot better than he has ever managed anywhere else, so it stands to reason that he will be able to afford to utilise these players in ways that he has only dreamed of in the past.

Of couse non of us are sure of the bloke, but don't condemn him just because he is pals with Roman. That might actually be an advantage in the long run if he is any good.

Capela
20-09-2007, 09:28:PM
i don't agree with pede54
"I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward"
he didn't run out of ideas, he just got tired of all those interferences in his work and lost his motivation
he likes to do things his way, if he can't then he just won't do anything
and as for feeling excited by what the future may hold, i don't see that way. because of mourinho i started following chelsea campaign and starting liking chelsea
but without him i really think that chelsea is screwed

Filipower
20-09-2007, 09:35:PM
i agree with you on the not running out of ideas, interferences thingy, but i don't agree on the screwed part...they're not better off without him, that's for sure, but it's not like they're going back to mid-table..

Help?
21-09-2007, 12:18:AM
20 million pound payoff???!!!!!! HAHAHA, who in their right mind wouldn't take that?

Gunnersgoal22
21-09-2007, 01:15:AM
Not that I'm sad in any way I'll admit I'm gonna miss him a little bit. He's arguably the best manager in the world and in his first two years at Chelsea he made one of the best teams I've ever seen and I must say I did fear him.

His greatest strength and weakness is his ego. I.E. when Wenger or Fergie have gone through spells like this they've made amends and recovered. But I will say that when the players and owner are on his side his team is organized and dominant and breaks points records in the EPL.

As for where he'll end up, the Portuguese national team seems to make sense, but can managing a national team match his ambition for after Euro 08?

And finally for Chelsea, the Sevilla manager seems most likely to me if he can some how get Sevilla to let him leave. It will be interesting this weekend to see how they respond.

pede54
21-09-2007, 01:54:AM
i don't agree with pede54
"I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward"
he didn't run out of ideas, he just got tired of all those interferences in his work and lost his motivation
he likes to do things his way, if he can't then he just won't do anything
and as for feeling excited by what the future may hold, i don't see that way. because of mourinho i started following chelsea campaign and starting liking chelsea
but without him i really think that chelsea is screwed

OK but if he lost his motivation because of interference from those above him, then instead of "running out of ideas", perhaps he just couldn't be bothered any more. That attitude would be no good to us anyway.

I understand that he likes to have the first and last say on everything and to be truthful, I wish those in charge would have left him alone to carry on the fantastic job that he was doing. They didn't leave him alone and he got pissed off by that. Understandable.

I didn't start following Chelsea because of Jose. I supported this club a long time before that, so to me Jose is now history. Great history, but history non the less.

To suggest that Chelsea is screwed just because Jose aint there any more is crap. We existed before he came and we will continue to exist now he is gone. Don't get me wrong, we all love the guy a hell of a lot and his departure is very sad, but I think you are on the wrong lines if you think Chelsea cannot succeed without him. Managers come and go all the time so this is nothing new to football.

Believe me mate, during all my Chelsea years we have been in deeper s.h.i.t than Jose's departure. Compared to some of the crap we've had to survive over the years this just does not compare.

Lean
21-09-2007, 03:09:AM
Chelsea has a marvelous squad regardless of the manager. And Jose leaving wont make them a mediocre team, on the contrary, they're still a formidable threat. Of course, they would do better with Mourinho, that's something i would bet money on, but let's see how they fare with that Grant guy.

Terribly, i hope. (H)

MaSsiVe
21-09-2007, 04:28:AM
The Times:
"Mourinho, what does the "mutual agreement" you've reached with Chelsea mean?
Mourinho:
"I don't know. I'll have to check the dictionary."

(H)

dipset
21-09-2007, 06:43:AM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k305/baller4lfe/n187700308_30554868_2733.jpg

Kulixs
21-09-2007, 09:14:AM
Chelsea could face a succession of big-name departures after boss Jose Mourinho left Stamford Bridge.
Reports are rife that many of the club's most high-profile players now want to follow him out of Chelsea.

Defender Ricardo Carvalho said: "It is a very sad day for me and the team. I had a big offer from Real Madrid but I stayed at Chelsea because of Mourinho."

And summer signing Florent Malouda added: "I joined Chelsea because of my first meeting with Mourinho."

Several reports claim striker Didier Drogba is "furious and upset" at the parting of the ways between Chelsea and their charismatic Portuguese coach.

AC Milan are admirers of the Ivory Coast striker and would happily finance a move to take him to the San Siro.

Drogba, 29, was Chelsea's top scorer with 33 goals last season.

Reports elsewhere claim Michael Essien and Paulo Ferreira, both brought to Chelsea by Mourinho, may also be mulling over whether to stay at the club.

A huge question mark will also hang over the future of England midfield man Frank Lampard, who has already put talks on a new contract on hold and was regarded as one of Mourinho's most trusted lieutenants in the dressing room.

Lampard has long been linked with a move to Spain with either Real Madrid or Barcelona.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7006084.stm

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It's not looking good. Chelsea need to do their utmost to settle their players now. If they are playing with this on their mind, they aren't going to be playing their best.

Kulixs
21-09-2007, 10:07:AM
In possibly the most mental development in the whole Chelsea saga, Jamie Redknapp has apparently been approached to become Avram Grant's assistant to bring 'glamour and popularity'.

Roman Abramovich and Peter Kenyon have obviously been impressed by Redknapp's 'expert' opinions on Sky Sports, where he regularly comments that Frank Lampard (his cousin) is a "top, top player".

The Daily Mirror says that Redknapp is wanted for his 'pin-up' qualities as Grant is obviously not a big hit with the ladies.

In other Chelsea-related tomfoolery, newspaper reports suggest that not only is Didier Drogba going to follow Mourinho out of the club, but so are the "devastated" Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Ricardo Carvalho, Florent Malouda and Paulo Ferreira.

If they're not already thinking about leaving, they will be when they hear that Redknapp is on his way - except Lampard, who is, of course, a "top, top player".

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2744774,00.html
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Well. I think this confirms it. Abramovich has probably gone mad.

TOON ARMY
21-09-2007, 10:11:AM
Jamie Redknapp?

Are Chelsea deliberately trying to be a laughing stock? :|

Kulixs
21-09-2007, 10:26:AM
I think Abramovich is just trying to make executive decisions and change the team. He attended training at Avrams first session in charge. And reports this morning are saying he's going to have a more hands on approach, and he's appointed Avram Grant because he will be more willing to listen to Abramovich and submit to his views and decisions.

Capela
21-09-2007, 10:42:AM
I didn't start following Chelsea because of Jose. I supported this club a long time before that, so to me Jose is now history. Great history, but history non the less.

To suggest that Chelsea is screwed just because Jose aint there any more is crap. We existed before he came and we will continue to exist now he is gone. Don't get me wrong, we all love the guy a hell of a lot and his departure is very sad, but I think you are on the wrong lines if you think Chelsea cannot succeed without him. Managers come and go all the time so this is nothing new to football.

Believe me mate, during all my Chelsea years we have been in deeper s.h.i.t than Jose's departure. Compared to some of the crap we've had to survive over the years this just does not compare.

pede54, i think chelsea is screwed without him because before him i didn't consider chelsea as one of the strongest team in england
and now probably some crucial players will leave in the end of the season and chelsea will have to rebuild the squad. and those who saty probably won't be as motivated as they would be with mourinho
i don't want chelsea to get screwed and to go to mid-table or anything like that. but i also think that your chances of winning the premiership after this are very small

Tiago_10
21-09-2007, 02:29:PM
Portuguese newspaper "O Jogo" claims that in order to receive a bit more than it was stipulated in the contract, Mourinho had to agree with some conditions: that he wouldn't talk about what happened in Chelsea (regarding Abramovic) and he wouldn't be coaching another team in the Premiership.

If it was some other newspaper such as "Record" or something I'd say it's BS, but "O Jogo" is pretty well informed.

pede54
21-09-2007, 04:59:PM
In possibly the most mental development in the whole Chelsea saga, Jamie Redknapp has apparently been approached to become Avram Grant's assistant to bring 'glamour and popularity'.

Roman Abramovich and Peter Kenyon have obviously been impressed by Redknapp's 'expert' opinions on Sky Sports, where he regularly comments that Frank Lampard (his cousin) is a "top, top player".

The Daily Mirror says that Redknapp is wanted for his 'pin-up' qualities as Grant is obviously not a big hit with the ladies.

In other Chelsea-related tomfoolery, newspaper reports suggest that not only is Didier Drogba going to follow Mourinho out of the club, but so are the "devastated" Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Ricardo Carvalho, Florent Malouda and Paulo Ferreira.

If they're not already thinking about leaving, they will be when they hear that Redknapp is on his way - except Lampard, who is, of course, a "top, top player".

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2744774,00.html
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Well. I think this confirms it. Abramovich has probably gone mad.

Man, I can understand you siding with the media on this. After all you are a Manc, and I wouldn't expect anything else from you. No offence intended. To quote newspaper speculation as fact, or even to quote media speculation at all, is as we all know, just plain stupid. Yeah it makes great reading but it's unfounded crap all the same.

Of course our players are a little shocked by Jose going. That would be the case with any club where the manager walks out, and if players want to leave, which I very much doubt, then when their contracts are up they will be free to do that. I'll believe it when I see it and not when some hack tells me it's gonna happen.

Off the cuff crap like "reports suggest that Drogba is furious and upset" are self explaning. Actually, according to the SUN, it was a "close friend" of Drogba who disclosed this to the SUN. So make of that what you will. When I hear Drogba make the same statement, then I will believe it. Anyone with any level of intelligence should do the same. For anyone to still listen to what the Sun says just astounds me.

The feeding frenzy from the media and fans of other clubs taking place at the moment is to be expected because it gives these morons the opportunity to express out loud their fantasies.

The truth is what's important but why worry about that now when it has never mattered in the past huh?

Kulixs
21-09-2007, 08:30:PM
Man, I can understand you siding with the media on this. After all you are a Manc, and I wouldn't expect anything else from you. I just reported it lol. Say it was true. What would your view be on the appointment ?

pede54
21-09-2007, 08:42:PM
I just reported it lol. Say it was true. What would your view be on the appointment ?

On Jamie Redknapp? Does any club worry that it's manager or coach is not handsome?

Is Fergie such a good looker, or Wenger, or Rafa?:|

I've never heard such a load of bollocks in my life mate.:D

mannyb28
21-09-2007, 08:59:PM
Travishamockery!

pede54
21-09-2007, 09:07:PM
Grants first statement....

Grant - I'm not Abramovich's puppet

LONDON (AFP) — Avram Grant insists he is not Roman Abramovich's stooge and did not play a role in Jose Mourinho's dramatic departure from Chelsea.
Grant is convinced Abramovich will allow him to manage the London club without interference, even though Mourinho's exit was prompted by the Chelsea owner's overbearing influence.

The Israeli is a close friend of Abramovich and his arrival at Stamford Bridge in the close-season as director of football was perceived as the Russian's unsubtle bid to have more say in the team.

Abramovich had been at loggerheads with Mourinho since January but Grant says his own relationship with the billionaire was not the reason why he was given the job.

Grant, a former coach of the Israel national team, is adamant he did not stab Mourinho in the back to further his own career.

"It is not Roman's ambition to pick the team," Grant said. "I can tell you I will pick the team for good and for bad.

"Roman has many friends in football and he didn't appoint any of them. I think it is a normal relationship with Roman between two people who share something.

"If you knew me you would see I take all my decisions in football on my own. I have the blame if we lose, if we win I am part of the group that succeeds, so I take the decision on my own.

"As you know any owner can choose the coach. If I was not here and the owner called me in Thailand he can say come. I don't need to be in the club for him to give me the job.

"On the contrary it is very difficult to come to this job because I was in another job completely. In the last two months we had a very good relationship. Jose did his job and I did mind. We shared everything. It is not right to think this.

"I must say it touched my heart, it warmed my heart how the supporters react when Jose left. It is very nice to see them support someone who brought so much to the club and I am sure we will do everything to make them feel good in the future."

Mourinho brought unprecedented success to Chelsea in his three and a half years at the club.

But his failure to meet Abramovich's demands for the kind of fantasy football that made him fall in love with the game played a part in his exit.

Grant was at pains to underline that providing entertainment, as well as success, was his main ambition.

While Mourinho announced his arrival at Chelsea by proclaiming himself 'the special one', Grant took a more humble approach.

He said: "I am a normal person. I have my own philosophy. I respect everything that was here in the past and I'm sure what I do in the future will be respected.

"Football is also entertainment. We need to win games and fight for the trophies but I think the way we do this and win is also important. To play good and positive football.

"I am not saying it wasn't here in the past and I talking only of now. We will try to combine those two things and I am sure we can do it.

"I know we are not going to win all the games but I believe we can do it in a positive way.

"It is not easy to build your own philosophy in one day. It will take time amd I don't think I have a credit for too long. I understand the doubt."

With several of Chelsea's senior players, including Didier Drogba and Frank Lampard said to be devastated by Mourinho's departure, Grant was quick squash claims he could face a dressing room revolt.

"I would be more disappointed if the players did not have a good relationship with Jose," he said. "He was the coach for three and a half years and won games and trophies.

"I need to look at the future, the near future especially. I think we will have a good relationship with the players and continue what we started in the last two days."


The "responsible" English media after 1 day at the helm at Chelsea, have been at pains to point out that Grant is, a) Jewish, b) Fat, c) Short and d)Ugly. That says everything about the media in this country.

They are gutter rats who are bordering on being anti semetic, and have decided that the physical appearence of a coach is an important factor for his success. Now if that aint shallow and pathetic then I don't know what is.

Do we hear that Rafa is a Catholic? Do we know what Fergie's religion is? Why do we need to know then that Grant is a Jew. Fu<king disgraceful.

MaSsiVe
21-09-2007, 09:14:PM
Grant is convinced Abramovich will allow him to manage the London club without interference
lmao

TOON ARMY
21-09-2007, 10:39:PM
Pete, your stalwart defense of Abromovich and the Chelsea board is admirable but i bet deep down you are slightly worried like the Chelsea fans who felt the need to demonstrate outside the bridge last night.

Why didn't Roman axe Jose last summer? Jose was too strong, too much influence and a dressing room of players behind him. So, Roman brings in his mates Arnesen, Tenenbaum and Grant and puts a structure in place so he can axe Jose without any great trouble.

Roman will be signing the players and picking the team. Grant is a puppet, no two ways about it. Roman could attract any top manager in the World but he knows that they wont accept his interference even if the money is brilliant.

BayernFan01
21-09-2007, 11:01:PM
we will miss "The Special One"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAI5x4BBD6o&mode=related&search=

Kulixs
21-09-2007, 11:05:PM
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100983&page=2

Just saw this thread at the bottom of the page with the thread related thing. Interesting to read.

Thelonious
21-09-2007, 11:18:PM
Do we hear that Rafa is a Catholic? Do we know what Fergie's religion is? Why do we need to know then that Grant is a Jew. Fu<king disgraceful.

Would he have got the job if he wasn't Jewish, of course not, he got it because he is a close friend of Ambramovich.

tracertong
21-09-2007, 11:39:PM
Pete you are to be commended sir for still smiling in the face of such adversity but the truth is mate roman has put a yes man in charge , what you have got is an isreal version of Sammy Lee who will play who he is told to play. Expect Sheva to be starting every game now.


And this Chelsea fan gives a rather more honest assessment of the situation than our Pete.


" Well it pretty much summed it all up, Abramovich, Kenyon and the others now have complete control of our club God help us all!! they have been trying to run the whole Circus from big top to bottom for some time now, but one man always stood in their way, but now after several failed attempts to undermine his authority as manager (IE: bringing in players that were not of his choosing, failing to back him in the transfer market during last seasons dreadful injury crisis and letting him squirm with all the speculation over his future at the club) they have at last managed to oust him by some as yet unknown method in order to install a yes man of their own making.

They have pulled a relatively unknown coach out of relative obscurity, and thrust him into the brightest of spotlights like a librarian from Chipping Norton suddenly finding himself making an appearing on the"X Factor" Moulded by their insincere pats on the back, and hollow promises of him getting their full backing as long as he's a good boy and does as he is told, the puppeteers now have their marionette, and can now proceed to pull ALL the strings to their hearts content.

The poor unsuspecting B*stard sat at that joke of a press conference between his manipulators not knowing when to speak or who to speak to unless he was prompted by Messrs Jekyll & Hyde, he deserves our pity not our scorn, that should be directed firmly at the parasites who are running (or should that be ruining?) our beloved club.

Jose had principles, he called a spade a spade, and told it pretty much as it was, this didn't always win us friends but then again honesty is not always welcomed in some circles, he was his own man and wanted to do the footballing things his way, look how it paid dividends in his first season when he was left to his own devices, but then the interfering started and how he did what he did for us after that is anyone's guess?

This whole bloody mess is one of the darkest episodes in our clubs history and that is not being melodramatic, even when we were rubbish we were honest rubbish, when we paupers we were honest paupers but now we are becoming a faceless characterless club without a soul because that has been put up for grabs to the highest bidder by these racketeers who masquerade as "Chelsea FC Directors" who all claim to have the clubs best interests at heart!! total bollox!! if in a few years time the Russian decides he's fed up with football and decides to play in another playground and we find ourselves back in the sh*t that we were in 20 odd years ago, they will all have gone off into the sunset with bulging bank accounts and Chelsea FC will just be a fond memory of a good old money cow that they milked dry.

I have loved my club all my life with all my heart, but the actions of these scumbags are pushing that love to the very limit.
Good luck Avram! God knows you're going to need it!!!"

Nimreitz
22-09-2007, 01:29:AM
Portuguese newspaper "O Jogo" claims that in order to receive a bit more than it was stipulated in the contract, Mourinho had to agree with some conditions: that he wouldn't talk about what happened in Chelsea (regarding Abramovic) and he wouldn't be coaching another team in the Premiership.

If it was some other newspaper such as "Record" or something I'd say it's BS, but "O Jogo" is pretty well informed.

He's going to look so good on the sideline at the Allianz Arena next season after Ottmar steps down (H)

Can you imagine Jose coaching that team? I can :)

Filipower
22-09-2007, 01:29:AM
bah too much talk anyway, he's gone, Chelsea will have to live with it, if any team out there wants a sure league title in two or less years, they've got their option now :D

Vinnie Jones
22-09-2007, 01:40:AM
He's going to look so good on the sideline at the Allianz Arena next season after Ottmar steps down (H)

Can you imagine Jose coaching that team? I can :)

It wouldn´t surprise me. Here´s a quote from a Mourinho´s interview today (i´ll post the translation too) " Voltarei a treinar em Inglaterra, mas não quero que esse seja o meu próximo passo. Tem de ser outro país, outra experiência, outro futebol. Vou ter de escolher entre aprender a língua italiana ou alemã."
"I´ll coach in England again, but i don´t want it to be my next step. It must be another country, another experience, another football. I´ll have to choose between learning the italian or de german language".

yoyo913
22-09-2007, 04:52:AM
Inter (H)

MaestroZidane
22-09-2007, 06:32:AM
my pick is Inter or Juve... Hopefully is Juve, Although, because of the position that Inter are in -CL and players-, That may be the most likely place that he may end up. :(

pede54
22-09-2007, 11:18:AM
Pete, your stalwart defense of Abromovich and the Chelsea board is admirable but i bet deep down you are slightly worried like the Chelsea fans who felt the need to demonstrate outside the bridge last night..

You misunderstand me TA. I am not defending Roman OR the board. I am also not defending Jose either. Chelsea is my club, and it's the future of the club that matters. Being a Toon fan you should know better than most that whatever happens in the boardroom, leaves us fans helpless. We like you will just have to have our fingers crossed and hope it all works out. How many managers has your board sacked in the last 10 years man?


Why didn't Roman axe Jose last summer? Jose was too strong, too much influence and a dressing room of players behind him. So, Roman brings in his mates Arnesen, Tenenbaum and Grant and puts a structure in place so he can axe Jose without any great trouble.

I think it was obvious to all that Jose was never gonna tone down his attitude towards Roman. Jose said some pretty crazy things before this season started. He said that when he has had enough then he will just walk away. So why wait for that to happen? As it happens TA, Tenenbaum arrived with Roman 4 years ago. Arnesen is NOT a personal "mate" of his. Roman is the owner of Chelsea and whether people like it or not he has first and last say. I have as much influence in Chelsea's boardroom as you have at Newcastle's mate. Our role is to celebrate or suffer decisions made in the boardroom. As a fan that is our fate.[/QUOTE]

Roman will be signing the players and picking the team. Grant is a puppet, no two ways about it. Roman could attract any top manager in the World but he knows that they wont accept his interference even if the money is brilliant.

I would love to know where you get this "inside" information mate. I have a couple of people at Chelsea who tell me that this kind of crap is just that. CRAP.

pede54
22-09-2007, 11:28:AM
Would he have got the job if he wasn't Jewish, of course not, he got it because he is a close friend of Ambramovich.

Was Jose Jewish? Is Clarkey Jewish? Don't be so silly mate. It has nothing to do with anyone's religion at all, even if the anti semetic English media would like you to think so.

Grant is also NOT a close friend of Roman either. If that was the case then Grant would have arrived at Chelsea a lot sooner than he did.

If you are really concerned about Jewish influence in the English game, then lets also talk about Arsenal and Spurs to begin with shall we?

pede54
22-09-2007, 11:31:AM
Pete you are to be commended sir for still smiling in the face of such adversity but the truth is mate roman has put a yes man in charge , what you have got is an isreal version of Sammy Lee who will play who he is told to play. Expect Sheva to be starting every game now.

That my friend is a positive not a negative.


And this Chelsea fan gives a rather more honest assessment of the situation than our Pete.

Nah not more "honest" at all mate. This just suits you more that's all.

This "fan" needs to remember that without Roman there would not be a Chelsea Football Club. He sounds like a newby to me whatever he says to the contrarary. Fan's like him we could do without. I suppose this same "fan" will be booing the team at at Old Trafford on Sunday as some have said they will. Wankers every one of them.

pede54
22-09-2007, 11:40:AM
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100983&page=2

Just saw this thread at the bottom of the page with the thread related thing. Interesting to read.


Yeah and I wasn't far off with my comments either was I. Diving became a big thing at Chelsea with the arrival of Jose. That is a fact that no Chelsea fan is proud of.


Anyway keep reading the Sun guys, because they will give you all the "real" inside info on the situation, and keep you provided with some wonderful opportunities to make some really great posts.........

pede54
22-09-2007, 12:47:PM
Wengers Opinion

Wenger: Chelsea Won't Implode, Give Grant A Chance.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger does not subscribe to the theory that Chelsea will crumble following the departure of Jose Mourinho - or that there will be an exodus of leading players from Stamford Bridge...

Arsene Wenger, quizzed by journalists about the events at rivals Chelsea this week, insisted: “There is no danger that Chelsea will fall apart. I do not believe at all that there will be an exodus of players."

The Arsenal boss sought to put some of the more alarmist headlines into perspective when he said: “It is normal that some players are unhappy whenever a manager leaves — but it is not their job to say who runs the team."

Wenger predicts that Chelsea will get by without Mourinho.

“It is difficult from the outside to assess how much Chelsea’s success was down to Mourinho’s quality, how much down to Abramovich’s money and how much to the fact he inherited a good side which had finished second the previous year.

“One thing I do know is that you can have money and still not win trophies but you cannot be successful if you are a bad coach.”

Wenger said that he believed Mourinho’s departure was more attributable to his disagreements with owner Roman Abramovich than to a perceived lack of entertainment provided by Chelsea on the pitch.

And on the question of whether Chelsea's strars would be stampeding towards the Stamford Bridge exit door, Wenger added:

“Their job is to perform well for the club and honour the contracts they are paid for.

"If I were to leave Arsenal tomorrow, the players would still try to win their games because they are good professionals. And that’s the same situation at Chelsea.”

Wenger also had words of encouragement for Mourinho's successor, Avram Grant.

He said Chelsea's fans and players should give Grant a fair chance to prove himself a worthy successor to Mourinho.

He observed: “Nobody knew about me when I arrived in England but I know Avram Grant and he is a very intelligent man with a big knowledge of the game.

“He came to study our training methods when he was the Israeli coach and I liked the man.

“There is nothing to stop him being a success because he has the financial resources, he has the players and he has the knowledge.

“I understand people have become a bit passionate and emotional after Mourinho’s sudden departure. But that doesn’t mean you have to convict the guy who comes after him.”


Wise words as usual from Wenger.

ScimitarPES2
22-09-2007, 01:16:PM
Might as well go ahead and officially rename the club to Chelski right now .. Abrahmovich is quite simply http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Flibble/crazy-1.gif

I can't see Chelsea seriously contending for the Premiership or Champions League season. Yes, they have good players and Mourinho wasn't the only component that made Chelsea very good, but I can't see a great deal of stability with the team or a team spirit as high as it would have been under Mourinho. Inevitably, I can also see a fair few players leaving this summer..

pede54
22-09-2007, 01:40:PM
Might as well go ahead and officially rename the club to Chelski right now .. Abrahmovich is quite simply http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Flibble/crazy-1.gif

I can't see Chelsea seriously contending for the Premiership or Champions League season. Yes, they have good players and Mourinho wasn't the only component that made Chelsea very good, but I can't see a great deal of stability with the team or a team spirit as high as it would have been under Mourinho. Inevitably, I can also see a fair few players leaving this summer..

Could you also tell me who will win the 3 oclock at Sandown this afternoon, seeing as you can obviously see into the future, I'd liketo make a few quid.:)

farmboy
22-09-2007, 03:37:PM
I suppose this same "fan" will be booing the team at at Old Trafford on Sunday as some have said they will.
Wait, why would you boo the team? This has nothing to do with the players, so what's the logic in taking frustration out on them?

pede54
22-09-2007, 04:28:PM
Wait, why would you boo the team? This has nothing to do with the players, so what's the logic in taking frustration out on them?


Like all teams, we have some real dickheads who follow Chelsea. They seem to be under the impression that Grant/Roman/Kenyon, should be booed when the team take the field at Old Trafford.

They are probably newbie fans anyway who came to Chelsea when Roman did. The real fans of the club have pleaded on every Chelsea fansite to cheer the boys out, and to cheer them on like never before. We need to show solidarity on Sunday but this is something that certain dickheads do not seem to understand. These morons are simply Jose fans and not Chelsea supporters, so the sooner they bugger off somewhere else the better.:)

Yossarian
22-09-2007, 05:14:PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007440161,00.html


The Arsenal boss declared that Mourinho’s sacking was: “Sudden, surprising and brutal.”

Yet he still could not resist a final dig at the man who became famous for shouting his mouth off and boring his Stamford Bridge bosses.




Wenger said: “It is one thing to be entertaining in Press conferences but it is not the same value as being entertaining on the pitch.

“That is what people love football for and there is no doubt Chelsea have the resources to replace him with another top-class manager.

“I want to be working in the best league in the world and confronted by the best managers.

"Mourinho’s arrival made this league more interesting because it brought another club into the top-level fight.

“Before, it was just Arsenal and Manchester United. Now there is also Chelsea, Liverpool and others.”


LOLzer


I think that you forgot that part, Pede, or maybe you didn't retrieve the article from its original source?

Yossarian
22-09-2007, 05:37:PM
Inter (H)


OHGODNO, OHGODNO, OHGODNO!!


Look, don't get me wrong. It's not like I resent the man and his unbelievable successes, probably one of the best streaks in sports history interms of achievements in the short amount of time that he's been able to do it, and I really dig his personality, but I ******* loathe his coaching philosophy and tactics. Hell, if we're gonna let Mancini go (wouldn't recommend that we do that right now), I'd rather give Lippi another go, or Capello. They also might be of the same approach as Mourinho, but I prefer their form of catennacio and knowledge over his methods anyday, man.


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8880/100ce8.jpg


4-3 victory>>>>1-NILer.

I don't know where the **** Zeman is right now, man, but I'd much rather prefer him than Jose anyday.

Filipower
22-09-2007, 08:25:PM
well Yoss, you couldn't be perfect :p

Kulixs
22-09-2007, 09:45:PM
Yeah and I wasn't far off with my comments either was I. Diving became a big thing at Chelsea with the arrival of Jose. That is a fact that no Chelsea fan is proud of. Yep. Your consistency was one part of that thread that I was impressed with.

Some are now speculating that Mourinho could eventually take over at Man Utd once Ferguson leaves. It crossed my mind. He's a top manager, and Ferguson is a admirer. If Ferguson was to give references to the Glazer family once he leaves, Mourinho would most likely be one of the managers on the list. He's experienced at the top level, and with the English game and media. It would be one of the most controversial appointments in football history IF it was to happen one day.

pede54
22-09-2007, 10:05:PM
Yep. Your consistency was one part of that thread that I was impressed with.

Some are now speculating that Mourinho could eventually take over at Man Utd once Ferguson leaves. It crossed my mind. He's a top manager, and Ferguson is a admirer. If Ferguson was to give references to the Glazer family once he leaves, Mourinho would most likely be one of the managers on the list. He's experienced at the top level, and with the English game and media. It would be one of the most controversial appointments in football history IF it was to happen one day.


Oh mate, when that day comes, which is very possible, you will find out just how it is to have Jose as your manager. When he returns to England it could well be to Man U that he could go. Don't know how long he would last though. I can't see Sir Bobby Charlton agreeing to his arrival though. Bobby hates the bloke.:)

ScimitarPES2
23-09-2007, 02:03:AM
Could you also tell me who will win the 3 oclock at Sandown this afternoon, seeing as you can obviously see into the future, I'd liketo make a few quid.:)

If I could see the future, I'd have probably been somewhere hot and sunny surrounded by gorgeous women, instead of posting that .. as I'd have predicted the winning lottery numbers for a huge jackpot. :p Alas, it was just an opinion. ;)

pede54
23-09-2007, 02:06:AM
If I could see the future, I'd have probably been somewhere hot and sunny surrounded by gorgeous women, instead of posting that .. as I'd have predicted the winning lottery numbers for a huge jackpot. :p Alas, it was just an opinion. ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA........Fair play to ya mate(Y)

Help?
23-09-2007, 02:57:AM
Mourinho taking after Fergie? Doubt it, i'm pretty sure that by the time Fergie retires Mourinho will have already built an empire somewhere else. I even feel for Quieroz because he is waiting to take charge of United, but he is slowly becoming to realize that Ferguson is too attached to this club for this to happen in any near future.

Help?
24-09-2007, 06:23:AM
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1222/avramgrantui7.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avramgrantui7.jpg)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4091/penguinkp5.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=penguinkp5.jpg)


Grant's look always creeps me out.

didy
24-09-2007, 08:18:AM
Disgusting.

Filipower
24-09-2007, 12:14:PM
Avramovitch.

night
24-09-2007, 04:38:PM
Avramobitch.. His looks remind me of the current pope. (H)

RobbieD_PL
25-09-2007, 12:54:PM
Avramobitch.. His looks remind me of the current pope. (H)

No only is the Pope a Nazi he's Jewish too. :|

Oh the Irony :(