View Full Version : Should FIFA 09 PC be next gen ?


Ultra_Blue
13-11-2007, 05:59:PM
Ok, so this is a question thread. There is the question, please no off topic. I'll say my opinion now. I think yes. And EA must make it next gen. You know, PES 2008 is next gen, so this is the main reason, they have to make their fifa 09, or even euro 2008 next gen... EA've got no other choice, but to do it. You know, many people WANT a next gen fifa for PC, and that's another reason. So, I think those 2 are enough reasons from me, I want to know your opinion :).

crswind17
13-11-2007, 06:12:PM
Sure, it would be good to play fifa on "next-gen", but if it will be the same as previous FIFA games since 2005 or 06(?) namely, cheating cpu and so on...Then it doesn't really matter if you play the same sh!t on "current" or "next"-gen

myx
13-11-2007, 08:14:PM
yeah, EA! we are bored of current-gen!

SlowHand
14-11-2007, 02:50:AM
yes
but it won't be

Christhefuzzy
14-11-2007, 04:38:AM
I'd love it if it were, but EA's Sports division seems to have abandoned the PC in favour of consoles. Shame.

Outsider 87
14-11-2007, 08:03:AM
This question is senseless mate. I have just told you, as other EA managing editers can confirm, that FIFA 09 will be developped mainly for PC version and that it will be of course next generation. And not the next-gen of PES, but the 10-times better next-gen of FIFA 08 XBOX360 with even some improvements ;)

elhelmiey
14-11-2007, 08:25:AM
the 10-times better next-gen of FIFA 08 XBOX360 with even some improvements ;)

yeah that's what we have been waiting for! :amika:

Ultra_Blue
14-11-2007, 12:43:PM
Hope you are right mate :).

Dipanjan
14-11-2007, 12:46:PM
That's great news for us!

Styphelus
14-11-2007, 03:35:PM
EA stated before that Fifa 09 on PC will be next gen. Last year theey started using their next gen engine on the 360 but there were almost no leagues. This year they updated their engine and added all the leagues and teams to the consoles. next year, theyr will focus on the PC.

One thing at a time guys. I'm actually glad that this year's version is not next gen because my PC probably wouldn't handle it. Will need to upgrade next year.

Ultra_Blue
14-11-2007, 07:51:PM
Well, let's hope it will be next gen :).

Interista13
15-11-2007, 12:03:AM
LOL, I HOPE and I WANT it to be Next-gen, but if EA would make a next-gen PC game their sales would drastically drop (more than they have this year) because not many people could run it. (This is what THEY tell us, but it is utter bull$hit).

It won't be next-gen

Ultra_Blue
15-11-2007, 07:36:PM
LOL, I HOPE and I WANT it to be Next-gen, but if EA would make a next-gen PC game their sales would drastically drop (more than they have this year) because not many people could run it. (This is what THEY tell us, but it is utter bull$hit).

It won't be next-gen

Man, I run pes 2008 with my 3 years old pc on low perfectly :). Dont think it's going to be much of a problem . Many games want a better pc now :).

Interista13
16-11-2007, 01:18:AM
Yeah mate, I run PES2008 perfectly with my 4-year old PC.

But that is what EA said. According to them, you'd need a monster PC to run a next-gen footie game on it.

Is that (a) true or is it (b) bull$hit? I'll let you guys be the judge of that! ;)

I choose (b). Konami has proven that you don't need the latest tech to run a 'next-gen' game pretty smoothly.

elhelmiey
16-11-2007, 08:36:AM
it is possible to run pes2008 even on that 4-year-old pc but not that fifa08 simply because fifa08 is a truly next gen simulation football game. you can just feel that even on the current gen fifa08 now requires 30% more processing power just for its gameplay. some people just think that next gen is simply what they can see with their eyes only and they can accept it although the its gameplay is bull$hit ;)

Javyol
16-11-2007, 09:20:AM
LOL, I HOPE and I WANT it to be Next-gen, but if EA would make a next-gen PC game their sales would drastically drop (more than they have this year) because not many people could run it. (This is what THEY tell us, but it is utter bull$hit).

It won't be next-gen

But there would be less piracy and possibly a cheaper game?

Ultra_Blue
16-11-2007, 10:09:AM
Is that (a) true or is it (b) bull$hit? I'll let you guys be the judge of that! ;)




Well, One friend has spent no more than 400 $ for a new PC (dual core processor, 1 gb ram, 256 video) and he runs Crysis on normal perfectly. I mean, that fifa wont need more to run it on high. So you dont need a "monster" pc...

Interista13
16-11-2007, 09:44:PM
Elhelmiey: I knew someone was going to say that we can run PEs2008 because it isn’t next gen! I was waiting for someone to say it! :amika:

Javyol: Come on mate, let’s be serious, EA will never lower the price of their games. And I don’t think there would be less piracy…

Ultra Blue: mate, I agree with you 100%. PES2008 proves what you said. But that is what EA said mate…you should tell THEM that you could probably run a next-gen FIFA perfectly with a 3+ year old computer…I never agree with them about that.

That’s why I said their reason for not having FIFA next-gen for PC is total bull$hit! ;)

Ultra_Blue
16-11-2007, 10:24:PM
Well, this year they said, that fifa's not next gen, because the engine cannot be written so fast, this might be the clue :).

Interista13
16-11-2007, 10:29:PM
Well that's their problem. PES managed to write their files in such a way that they took very little from the computer. EA has to do the same.

I think next year won't be next-gen either because there was an interview a while back. Some one from FIFA was asked if they will stop making form PS2. That guy replied that the PS2 still has a lot of life left...

There's your answer for PC as well, sonce EA considers the PC to be the same level with the PS2 ;)

Mattwinter
17-11-2007, 04:24:AM
I wish people would stop using the words "next gen"... It's not like there's anything fundamentally different betweee FIFA 08 on the PC and on the PS3/Xbox 360 - the game engine is just more advanced. And it's not like you can compare fifa to PES here - yes both have upgraded their game engines recently, but the new game engine that FIFA uses is obviously more advanced than the new game engine PES uses. You can't say - "PES is next gen on PC, why can't FIFA be?" because they are not comparable.

Hopefully EA does do some major upgrades to the PC version of fifa for fifa 09.

By the way, what about EURO 2008? Surely EA are making a EURO 08 game, is there a chance that may be next-gen on PC?

Ultra_Blue
17-11-2007, 10:05:AM
Well, let's hope the Euro news will come soon :).

Outsider 87
17-11-2007, 10:37:AM
Well that's their problem. PES managed to write their files in such a way that they took very little from the computer. EA has to do the same.

I think next year won't be next-gen either because there was an interview a while back. Some one from FIFA was asked if they will stop making form PS2. That guy replied that the PS2 still has a lot of life left...

There's your answer for PC as well, sonce EA considers the PC to be the same level with the PS2 ;)
I see that my words here are taken into consideration like a flying donkey. FIFA 09 will be next-gen and developped most for PC. There will be non relationships no more between PS2 and PC. PS2 will remain the only one current-gen FIFA 09.

Mattwinter has said perfectly what I have told people in many forums: PES 2008 is NOT next-gen and you can take it by comparing PES 2008 PC (or Xbox360 because they are identical not next-gen) and FIFA 08 xbox360 and you will understand very well what we say. Next year FIFA will be a TRUE next-gen game, not a 60% next-gen like PES this year ;)

P.S. However I don't think EURO 2008 will be next-gen. Maybe a 60% like PES or maybe the last current-gen for PC. I will tell you more soon :)

Ultra_Blue
17-11-2007, 11:59:AM
Why are you so sure about it ? I hope you are right, but what makes you think that way ?

Outsider 87
17-11-2007, 12:17:PM
Why are you so sure about it ? I hope you are right, but what makes you think that way ?
Man, I don't think that way, I'm sure about it ;)
I have EA SPORTS sources because I'm a managing editor for the game! ;)

Sundsvall
17-11-2007, 12:37:PM
fifa 09 WILL be nextgen , why is there even a thread about it?

Ultra_Blue
17-11-2007, 12:57:PM
Wow, that's fantastic news! Just waiting for EA to confirm it ;). And just to ask, do you have any news about euro 2008 ?

Interista13
19-11-2007, 01:08:PM
Like Outsider87 said....I don't think Euro2008 will be next-gen. It's been a tendency for EA to make these mid-year games based on the original game for that year. WC06 was based on FIFA06, UCL 06-07 was based on FIFA 07, so Euro2008 will be based on FIFA08.

That being said, I don't think EA will completely strip down the PC version and make it next-gen... I doubt they will make any improvements at all...but I agree, FIFA 09 has a good possibility of being next-gen!

Outsider87: I hope you can provide us with more info!! ;)

elhelmiey
19-11-2007, 05:23:PM
I have EA SPORTS sources because I'm a managing editor for the game! ;)

is that means you are from ea? if so honestly i really can accept as what as you said 60%-like-PES rather than the last current-gen for PC ;)

Outsider 87
19-11-2007, 06:14:PM
is that means you are from ea? if so honestly i really can accept as what as you said 60%-like-PES rather than the last current-gen for PC ;)
I''m not of EA, but I work for EA SPORTS as a managing editor (Italian teams), like at least others 100 people do, so I have obviously contacts with the Vancouver Team. Moreover I remind you that I'm staff member of FifaMania, a partner site of EA SPORTS, so we have some news :D
I ensure you that FIFA 09 will be next-gen and I think also with features never seen before in any football game. However you can easily understand that is too early to talk about the FIFA 09 features. ;)

Ultra_Blue
19-11-2007, 07:38:PM
Fantastic, man ! :)

Interista13
19-11-2007, 07:42:PM
I ensure you that FIFA 09 will be next-gen and I think also with features never seen before in any football game. However you can easily understand that is too early to talk about the FIFA 09 features. ;)


It's really good to hear that mate but those features won't be only for PC...they'll be for the 360 and PS3 right? :(

Ultra_Blue
19-11-2007, 09:11:PM
It's really good to hear that mate but those features won't be only for PC...they'll be for the 360 and PS3 right? :(

So what, mate, PC is going to be even with the 360 and PS3, AT LAST ! :)

musama91
23-11-2007, 12:44:PM
How is it possible to have a 'next gen pc' in he first place? Will it be special pc or is it just a matter of continuously upgrading it with new components?

No_11_
23-11-2007, 02:24:PM
Like i've said before in some other posts,for me it doesn't matter so much to be next gen but to include the new tricks and any other new thing that they have in ps3 etc.Other than that,some new cinematics would be nice.I'd be thrilled though if there would be....less bugs!!

elhelmiey
31-12-2007, 11:21:AM
There will be non relationships no more between PS2 and PC. PS2 will remain the only one current-gen FIFA 09.

Outsider 87 do you know what is the minimum and recommended system requirements for fifa09 (pc)? just want to make sure that my pc can handle it at the time :p and oh i have complete gears of war campaign couple of weeks ago.

Interista13
31-12-2007, 01:44:PM
I have FIFA 08 for the PS3 and I must say it is a monster. It has so much going for it both graphically and from a gameplay point of view...

That is why I am a bit curious and skeptical about the system requirements...they will have to be insane...

I'm willing to bet you'd need a true gaming PC, and how many people actually have that?

Mates, instead of buying a new PC to play this game, you should do what I did and get a console...it is a much cheaper alternative...

Generic Oval
31-12-2007, 02:13:PM
No consoles suck.

A PS3 is very expensive and look at the games. I don't want to spend 70€ for a single game.
And whats with editing? I play FIFA to 70% only because of the editing possibilities (Creation Master, Sound Master,...).

Interista13
31-12-2007, 02:54:PM
Ok, look at it this way:

Which is a smarter buy? Buying a $1200+ PC that chances are you will have to get rid of or upgrade a great deal in 2 years or buying a $400-$600 PS3 that will last you 5+ years...all to play the same games?

And yeah, alright, so with a PC you can edit the game. But is that really worth another $600-$800 dollars?

I too thought that I cannot play FIFA because everything is bad and I must edit it. But the PS3 version blew me away. Stadiums are great, gameplay is fantastic, and the kits are very well done too...so I realized editing is pointless.

Finally, the PS3 is practically a PC...you can patch FIFA 08 through it.

Trust me mate, FIFA next-gen will be a nightmare for PC's...a console is a much smarter buy.

elhelmiey
31-12-2007, 03:29:PM
but for pc we can choose the level of graphic settings so i really wish that ea will provide better level of details so even 3-year-old pc can handle it tough :p

Generic Oval
31-12-2007, 03:29:PM
Ok, look at it this way:

Which is a smarter buy? Buying a $1200+ PC that chances are you will have to get rid of or upgrade a great deal in 2 years or buying a $400-$600 PS3 that will last you 5+ years...all to play the same games?

And yeah, alright, so with a PC you can edit the game. But is that really worth another $600-$800 dollars?
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Yes it is worth, because of the simple fact that I don't buy a PC just for FIFA and only for playing games. For me a computer is an all-around plattform with much more function than a console.
And buying a PS3, only because of FIFA?
Are there any other interessting games I can't play on a PC?
Motorstorm or Rachet & Clank???:drevil:

Interista13
31-12-2007, 04:19:PM
Elhelmiey: Well I think it takes away from the gaming experience if you do not have everything set at full...FIFA 08 on high graphics is stunning on my PS3...it would look pretty bad on low settings...

Generic Oval: So you want to pay $600-800 so you can also go online and do other things like that? Well, can't you just use your old PC for that??? I mean, you don't need a $1200 PC to surf the internet if your current PC can already do that...

And you can pretty much play any game on PC on a console too...but that's not really the point..the point is that it is a much cheaper and better alternative to simply buy a console to play all the latest games...

goke313
02-01-2008, 10:16:PM
the pc is modable....there's updated rosters+ more leagues+more players+more teams+more stadiums+more tournaments+more fun

Interista13
02-01-2008, 11:24:PM
the pc is modable....there's updated rosters+ more leagues+more players+more teams+more stadiums+more tournaments+more fun

Updated Rosters: You can do that yourself

More Leagues: Console versions of the game have the same number of leagues as the PC version

More Players: Console versions have the same leagues as the PC versions thus having the same number of players

More Stadiums: PC has more stadiums but that will change next year

More Tournaments: Console versions of FIFA 08 have the same number of tournaments as PC

More fun: The next-gen smooth graphics and gamplay make FIFA 08 a blast on console compared to the PC version...

After this I'd say consoles are better from a gaming point of view :D

Generic Oval
02-01-2008, 11:28:PM
He said it's modable that means you can easily add new leagues, players, teams, tournaments, stadiums etc...:confused:

goke313
03-01-2008, 12:34:AM
Updated Rosters: You can do that yourself

More Leagues: Console versions of the game have the same number of leagues as the PC version

More Players: Console versions have the same leagues as the PC versions thus having the same number of players

More Stadiums: PC has more stadiums but that will change next year

More Tournaments: Console versions of FIFA 08 have the same number of tournaments as PC

More fun: The next-gen smooth graphics and gamplay make FIFA 08 a blast on console compared to the PC version...

After this I'd say consoles are better from a gaming point of view :D

it's more modable....why da **** would someone want to update the roster themselve...when there is someone that would do it for you

Ultra_Blue
03-01-2008, 09:10:AM
Well, here's my opinion. I have bought a new PC 2 weeks ago, which will surely run a next-gen FIFA perfectly. But I didnt buy it just for FIFA. You know, many games are like next-gen now. And not only gaming. A lot of programs require a better PC, for example Photoshop CS3. It runs on 512 ram, but it's slow. My Internet is also a lot better with the new PC. PC can do twice the consoles... That's why it's good news, that it's going to be next-gen.


More fun: The next-gen smooth graphics and gamplay make FIFA 08 a blast on console compared to the PC version...

After this I'd say consoles are better from a gaming point of view :D

But we are talking about FIFA 09, which will be next-gen for PC. Talk then ;). And if you dont have a HDTV it's not that spectacular for the consoles...

Interista13
03-01-2008, 11:11:PM
Goke: Well I'm just saying that's something that you can do on consoles also...I personally don't see a need to have virtually all small teams rosters updated :P I can update the big teams myself...

Ultra Blue: Mate, I was in the same position as you. My PC is somewhat old, and I wanted a new PC to also partly gear up for FIFA 09 and other next-gen games. But then I began thinking about my needs. All I do on my PC is play games, go online, do homework etc...and I realized I do not need an entirely new $1200 PC just to do all that. Why? Because my PC can already go online perfectly, it can run many programs smoothly, etc...all it can't do anymore is play the latest games.

Therefore, consoles are much much cheaper than a new PC. I got a PS3 to play all the latest games and I can use my old PC to go online, run programs, do homework, etc...You do not need the latest PC to do those basic things. Therefore, sinply buying a console is a much smarter buy. Also, a PS3 is like a PC too with the lastest components ;)

Have you played FIFA 08 next-gen? I have it...and I must say I really doubt the majority of PC's will be able to run FIFA 09 smoothly. FIFA 08 is FANTASTIC from all points of view and IMO 09 will require VERY HIGH System Requirements to run all those things. Just the gameplay is a beast (nevermind the graphics). Plus, not having an HDTV doesn't mean the game does not look good, trust me.

P.S. Mate, just so you know, CS3 is a waste of money. I experimented with CS2 and I must say CS2 was nearly IDENTICAL to my Photoshop 6.0...CS3 is NOT worth it, no matter how you get it ;)

Ultra_Blue
03-01-2008, 11:27:PM
Well in the end it all depends on what you want to do with your PC :). If you want it for gaming, maybe consoles are a better option, but I must say there are games that are PC Only :). And will remain PC only. I am talking about some very good games. But it is for FIFA 09. I havent played the Next gen FIFA, but I really want. As for the HDTV - maybe, I don't have a console to say :). As I said in one other thread, one friend runs Crysis on medium with 1 gb ram and 256 gpu. Do you think that wont be enough for FIFA ? :) I think it's quite enough :).

Interista13
03-01-2008, 11:36:PM
I agree with you...it all comes down to what you want to do with your PC...well said!

About PC only games...mate every platform has their exclusive games...and plus, what major games are exclusive for PC besides Crysis and WOW?

Well mate, I just know this: FIFA 08 is fantastic and awesome from every aspect. The gameplay is great, graphics are just stunning, kits move, players sweat, stadiums are great, crowd is 3d, etc etc...

I think all these things will be very hard for a PC to run all at the same time and very smoothly...that is my opinion...

f_s_s_salnave
03-01-2008, 11:39:PM
I don't see why not. I'm sure most PC gamers would want it that way.

robertdeniro
04-01-2008, 04:21:AM
NO!
Not because of the system requirements but due to the fact that it will make editing more tougher as all the tools which have been made so far for editing wud be useless!

Once I heard a top EA official saying that the ps2 has got a lot of life and they will continue to make fifa for ps2 so what I am trying to say is that as long as they make fifa for ps2 they will maintain the same engine for the pc too.

Though next gen has its own advantages it has equal drawbacks.

My prediction is that you can expect the same engin till 2010.

As XP is more popular than vista next gen wont be a possibility.

If you call PES 2008 next gen nah! I dont think so it is almost the same as its predecessors.

Ultra_Blue
04-01-2008, 11:35:AM
I am not sure it will require "one hell of a PC" to play it. It will be enough to have a 3GHz CPU, 1GB ram and 256 GF 7900 + . It's not that much ;).

OriginalDon
04-01-2008, 01:26:PM
Ok, so this is a question thread. There is the question, please no off topic. I'll say my opinion now. I think yes. And EA must make it next gen. You know, PES 2008 is next gen, so this is the main reason, they have to make their fifa 09, or even euro 2008 next gen... EA've got no other choice, but to do it. You know, many people WANT a next gen fifa for PC, and that's another reason. So, I think those 2 are enough reasons from me, I want to know your opinion :).

YES agreed.

Getting :sleep: of the same :s***: every year

In addition to better graphics, the movement of the players and many other things mentioned on these forums needs improving.

Interista13
05-01-2008, 02:53:AM
I am not sure it will require "one hell of a PC" to play it. It will be enough to have a 3GHz CPU, 1GB ram and 256 GF 7900 + . It's not that much ;).

Ok, but now let's think for a bit, how many families in Europe OWN or for that matter can actually AFFORD a PC like that? Just a 3Ghz CPU is enough to turn them away...

Btw, is EA even making an Euro 2008???

elhelmiey
05-01-2008, 07:28:AM
well who guess suddenly ea announces that euro 2008 will be the 1st ng on pc :confused: but that's really seems to be impossible... but i wish so! :p

Ultra_Blue
05-01-2008, 11:07:AM
Ok, but now let's think for a bit, how many families in Europe OWN or for that matter can actually AFFORD a PC like that? Just a 3Ghz CPU is enough to turn them away...

Btw, is EA even making an Euro 2008???

Yes, I understand you, but see, so many people are not buying the game, not because they dont have the money, because they can get it free from somewhere. And for the PC - it's no more than 350 $ and by the time FIFA 09 comes it'll be about 280 $ maybe :). So it's not that much.

Interista13
05-01-2008, 08:29:PM
Yes, I understand you, but see, so many people are not buying the game, not because they dont have the money, because they can get it free from somewhere. And for the PC - it's no more than 350 $ and by the time FIFA 09 comes it'll be about 280 $ maybe :). So it's not that much.

Yes, you do have a point, but...

A) The methods they can get it for free tend to be ILLEGAL, and they also tend to dump tens of viruses on your 'new' PC.

B) You have a point about the $350 going to $280, but when that processor will go to $280, companies will come out with an EVEN BETTER processor to replace the cheap one which is still very good.

That is how PC companies constantly make money. And that is why I hat buying a PC. Why buy a new PC now when if you wait 2 more weeks a brand new component will be released? And after 2 weeks why buy one then because something new will come out in ANOTHER 2 weeks...

One week you buy the best PC out there and the next week it is a pile of obsolete junk...(yes, I am exaggerating, but you get the idea)

Ultra_Blue
05-01-2008, 08:40:PM
Well, you cant remain with a 10 year old pc, you know :).

Interista13
05-01-2008, 10:13:PM
Well I have 2 PC's and one of them is actually 10 years old! xD It has Windows Millenium on it...xD xD

But yeah you are right, you can't stay with a 10 year old PC. I'm just talking about those people who buy new computers almost every 2 years :|

eaztzyde
06-01-2008, 12:26:AM
http://www.fifa4fans.de/news/shownews.php?shownews=35
look here, and theres no need for this thread:D

Ultra_Blue
06-01-2008, 10:18:AM
eaztzyde: We are just discussing it, why no need ?

Interista13: Personally I change my PC after 3, 3.5 years ;). Think it's normal ;).

eaztzyde
06-01-2008, 02:38:PM
well you can discuss it as much as you want, but personally i dont like discussing it xD

f_s_s_salnave
06-01-2008, 03:15:PM
Lol.

JadMock
29-01-2008, 11:13:AM
EA were talking bull cause in the time FIFA 08 came out, they brought out mmmm COD4, erm Crysis funny enuff is a EA game, ew Medal Of Honour that came out was Next Gen, so they tripped over themselves, you can do a pc upgrade very cheap these days, that can handl next gen, I spent £170 on 4GB ddr2 and a dual core 6400 which will run next gen