What is the number 1 sport in the US?
And i know is not soccer....tell me US number 1 sport and where soccer ranks...

hey man.,....being from new york, id say the order would be . Baseball, Basketball American Football, then ice hockey and then maybe soccer if even........living in new york ......there are tons of soccer fans......but i cant say the same about other states... in new york ...there is a cool Manchester United bar called Nevada Smiths.......i may go there one day.(im a die hard man utd fan)....but its a bitch to get to..and for the record..even though im american ....i hate the mls......i think it is garbage compared to english and scottish premier leagues and the one thing that sucks in america is i dont get to watch as many matches as i would like to......seamus.

Hey, I'm a manUTD fan too...and there is a megastore just open a few months ago and there is the cafe too(I'm in Singapore)...so u live in New York and baseball is top...it is call MLB right???i also know that the yankees win the world series this year against the other NY team...which i couldn't remember...oh wait is is the Mets????

yeah the mets.....ima mets fan and they got beat by he yankees...the yankees are the manchester united of baseball.....4 championships in the past 5 years and they are expected to win again this year coming up........the mets almost beat the yankees.amnd every game was a nailbiter.......the yankeees were expected to blow out the mets but they didnt ....even though they won 4 games to 1 ....the mets couldve won everyone of those games.......take care man......up the bhoys and glory glory man united......

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im from new york and i also think that MLS is trash my favorite teams are NEWY YORK KNICKS (basketball) NY METS (baseball) RANGERS(hockey) GIANTS (football) GALATASARAY(soccer) TURKISH SOCCER RULES! and i think that if i had to choose id choose METROSTARS from MLS but i hate MLS

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So Jardel9, u from NY...i thought u are from Brazil or Turkey...anyway, is MLS really that bad???? what makes it bad???

Originally posted by JARDEL9:
im from new york and i also think that MLS is trash my favorite teams are NEWY YORK KNICKS (basketball) NY METS (baseball) RANGERS(hockey) GIANTS (football) GALATASARAY(soccer) TURKISH SOCCER RULES! and i think that if i had to choose id choose METROSTARS from MLS but i hate MLS

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You guys make me sick .You trash the MLS ...WHICH by the way i do not watch. You trash it so you will look " cool " to the internationals here.. oH JUST GIVE IT A REST YOU idiots...There is nothing wrong with the MLS. I give them props for trying to run a good league.And maybe one day if all of america besides the YOUTH wakes up soccer will become as popular as at least hockey is. But the point is you guys make me sick who trash MLS so you look cool to the internationals here.It's pathetic..Suckups

will

i think the truth has to be said....MLS is trash, maybe some ppl try to suck up but that doesnt deny that THE MLS IS TRASH!!


shez

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what's the use if Man Utd will win anyway!

Oh please....give it a chance. MLS is not even 10 years old!!! I'm here in Los Angeles. I'm not a big fan of MLS myself. But I think its a decent soccer league.

In other words, you can't compare a 7 year old kid to a 50 year old man in terms of strength and experience.

Sooner or later, I know MLS will produce soccer stars. Its still crawling, give it time to walk and run.
=)

hey im not trying to look cool man im from TURKEY and i came here 6 years ago and when i watch the TURKISH league and then i come and watch the MLS when i compare i see that MLS players are extremely weak and cant pass shoot or have no skills.in other countries while teams are having economical crisis teams in MLS have a minimum budget of at least 10 million dollars. this is the deal other sports companys dont let MLS advertise because it may become the most popular sport and they might lose fans because its the no 1 sport in the world they are under a lot of pressure but i still think that they are trash bunch of weaklings is what i would say.
i dont have to look cool

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hey ...i could not give a **** about what people say to me about my likes and dislikes...u do not know me nor do u pay my ******* rent ...so your opinion about my opinions, while u have the right to say what u want, is garbage.... i dont like the mls...big deal...some people dont like the english league..... i know irish fans that would never support the english league until england gets the **** out of ireland ....but anyway.....yeah i dont like the mls .....ive watched a couple of games and i dont like the league that much...but hey its just an opinion...which everyone is entitled to....

and why would i have to suck up to the internationals in here....when im born in the greatest country in the world ....people die trying to get into america...so why would i have to impress anyone?

and will75..seems u are paranoid about people thjnking youre cool....insulting everyone..trying to seem like you are an authority....go get some psychotherapy.....case closed.

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Did any of turkish teams have any success before Galatasaray bought Romanians, Brazilians, Croats... Anyway, football (soccer) is not an American sport, and will never be. You cannot introduce a new sport and league in 1993, and expect a miracle!

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hey shut ur mouth just becuz GALATASARAY has some romanians and brazilians doesnt mean that they depend on them to win everything if thats the case look at real madrid or barca or epl anywhere international players dont save the team they HELP the team and i know u wish to be in worlds best city NEW YORK so dont be jelaus cuz u live in some garbage village of england. fool

I just said that Galatasaray has never done anything before Romanians and Brazilians came there, and I'm not from England, and glad I'm not living in NY, but I'm glad you're happy for living there http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

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I guess different people have different opinions... http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

Yes, but I hate when someone thinks he knows everything, and he knows nothing. To really know what's going on in Europe, you have to BE in Europe. Anyway, do you have The Champions' League on your tele's in US?

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Here is a history lesson for all you, did you know the highest the US has placed in the World Cup, was fourth (1930)? Most of you didn't know that did you?

The US is a soccer nation, but not the extent of most European countries. Somwhere between 1930 and 1990 soccer disappeared in the US, but it is making a strong comeback in the 90's and hopefully for the next ten years.

I love soccer period. Any league, any country. I started watching Dutch soccer just this year and I like it. Ajax games are mostly what I watch. The MLS and Mexican soccer is what I can watch the most since it is closer to where I live.

The MLS doesn't suck, most of you are just following the anti US trend. And most of you are trying to compare it to the European style of attacking soccer, which is unfair. But that's your choice, I have no problem with that. Remember this, Not many knew who Necaxa (Concacaf representative in Jan)was in the first ever FIFA Club Championships until they surprised Man U by tying them and beating Real Madrid on penalties to place third. And why was this, how could powerful clubs from Europe struggle with smaller clubs? Becuase different styles makes good matches. Try to run against a team who likes to pass and slow down the game? Pretty hard to do isn't it?

That's the beauty of American soccer. The style is a combination of European attacking style, though not as fast, and a slower tempo of Latin American style soccer (Not all countries mind you), though not as slow.


The MLS and US's time will come. Just wait and see.

i have TURKISH TV from sattileite and i dont miss one match and i dont miss what the hell is going on in EUROPE TURKISH TV updates me all the time http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif hell i dont care bout us soccer team TURKISH NT kicks ass thats all i know!!

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I knew it. They lost to Argentina 6-1 in the semis. And back then there was no third place match so they actually finished joint third with...guess who...Yugoslavia. I bet most of you didn't know that, but then again I'm The Oracle.

we dont care bout us soccer it really is trash

US Football is the most popular here, then basketball, hockey, baseball. From what I've seen. I will watch US Soccer during the summer, because it's the usually going on, besides WC every four years and qualifiers. I do cheer on my US team, but the MLS is pretty dumb.

Quit complaining all!

Here in Canada we don't even have a professional league anymore. Although they are talking about reinvigorating the old Canadian Soccer League (having it got us to the world cup in 86...we TIED FRANCE!!!) as of right now we have to settle for two teams in the US A-League (****E!!!).

You should be thankful you have a local club to support...

And judging by all of your confrontational posts I am sure some of you Turks will want to slag off my country too, so save yourself the trouble, I know we are not very good.

Rob

back on topic...

I am from New York (major Yankees fan). The most popular sports in the US depend entirely on region. Right now in New York baseball rules. Followed by american football, basketball and then hockey. Baseball is still extremely popular throughout the country but it is definitely a more regional sport in that fewer people are watching it on TV when local teams are not competitive. So the game is huge in NY, Atlanta, LA, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco... But popularity is waning in places like Minnesota and the South.

An argument can definitely be made that american football has become the new national sport because the league has better balance among franchises and the TV rating are consistently higher nationally than the other sports. Both baseball and football are strongly rooted sports and should remain strong down the road.

Basketball is having problems in the post-Jordan era but remain relatively popular. I do expect its popularity to slip in the near future. Hockey IMO is in trouble.

Soccer may never be the main sport in the USA but it can gain on hockey and basketball... but it will take a long time. The league here will have to expand considerably. Remember that the USA is a huge country and people want to see good sports so soccer can gain a footing where local franchises are weak in other sports.

As for Nevada Smiths (the bar in NYC that shows european football matches). That bar rocks. They showed all the euro 2000 and the uefa and champions league matches as well as english league and the place is wild. Baseball is my number one game but i love watching soccer and hope it grows in popularity.

As for the MLS, yea its a weak league right now, and i really do not enjoy watching it but i do think it can grow.

I cant believe what i see here. You Americans that sit here and bash your own league. What the hell is wrong with you? Have you no National pride? Jesus. The only reason you dont like MLS is because you dont pay attention to it. Either that or you are embarassed because all the foreigners dont like it. And you know why? Because they have their own leagues to pay attention to. I for one am so proud of the people who go against the national "consensus" that soccer is ****, and take pride in their american league. And dont tell me that none of the US players can play in Europe either. Plenty do. If you really liked the sport you would like MLS, because all of these guys work really hard and love soccer as much as those across the sea. Trust me, as one who knows, MLS is decent, maybe better than some of the leagues around the world.

Regarding the baseball post. That's why I put baseball down as fourth on my list - I'm from Minnesota. And we don't have a MLS team, just A-League (Minnesota Thunder).

And regardin the last post, I don't believe that the MLS is better then many leagues. The MLS is a place for the youth of America to show their soccer skills, and for all the old out of their time worldwide legends or veterans. I personally don't like to watch the MLS much. But, I like it because it promotes soccer here in America, and that is what I want to help make soccer here in the future. As a socccer player - maybe get me up and out in the world. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

Go Twins. :-)

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IM NO AMERICAN IM A EUROPEAN I JUST LIVE HERE AND THE LEAGUE TRULY SUCKS NO EXPERIENCE AND WEAK PLAYERS

Would you calm down please? Yes, I know Major League Soccer isn't the best, but why bash it? It's only 5 years old, and I highly doubt the Turkish league was any better at the same age.

Give it time. I'm just glad we finally have a professional league here. It undoubtedly has helped soccer's standing in the country and has helped our national team immensely.

I have no problem with you liking Turkish soccer more. But there really is no point to belittle a young league that is trying to gain some stability. It has already produced some of the United States' best players like Chris Armas and Ben Olsen. It gives young American players a chance to grow and gain experience.

Just sitting there and typing "MLS SUCKS" is anti-productive. I've played soccer in the United States at the highest youth level. I've also played against players that are currently under contract with teams such as Bayer Leverkusen and other European teams as 18 and 19 year olds. The United States and MLS will get there. Just give it time.

And I will soon be there, I know MLS isn't the most talented. But still I mean, I would look forward to playing in the MLS. I play a year or two older then how old I am. And I am looking forward to the Indoor Nationals this winter.

HEY I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY FOR MLS TOO BECAUSE ITS EASY TO PLAY AND U GET PAID SOO MUCH I MEAN MLS IS THE SHORT WAY OF LIFE THE LEAST THAT MLS PLAYERS GET IS 200,000 a month if im not mistaken NOT BAD EH?

Actually mate, it's about 15,000. Most of the average players have to almost work another job to get enough money. I've heard a lot of stories and read about them. I just know it is very very low pay.

you know what is funny? im pretty sure that the highest paid players are stoichkov and hernandez in MLS, and they get like 200x the average salary for all the players combined. i think hernandez got 2mil. im not taking credit for knowing this though.
long live Brian McBride....who was starting for PNE in div. 1 in england. Damn blood clot.

one more__joe, if you land in Columbus, can you get me some free tickets???? just checking...

Yea - Here's hoping. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

i guess IlliniOrangeKrush1 is right. we can't judge a league which is only 5 years old. a professional league in my country which is about 5 years old is also struggling a bit but it seems to be improving over the years...all i have to say is that we need to give a young league a chance to improve their standard of soccer...it just needed more time

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I ALSO THINK THAT MLS IS A GOOD LEAGUE. THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TRANSFER SYSTEM, WHICH ISN'T LIKE THE ****ED UP ONE IN EUROPE WHERE IT'S ONLY MANCHESTER, REAL MADRID AND BARCELONA THAT HAVE ALL THE STAR-PLAYERS!

sorry but their transfer sytsem is just like the nba every team has a good player or a superstar i kinda dont like that

So, how does the transfer system work in MLS?

So, how does the transfer system work in MLS?

i dont give a monkeys left bollock about the transfer system point is A) you can get football on the telly.. B) you want to see alive game in the USA you either 1)go to a park near a bodega(latino deli) and watch the mexicans kick a ball around or you go see the MLS.. its getting better.. i even joined the metrostars fan club.. C)watch a game live on telly if you anit got no telly either a)buy one or b) go see the MLS..
or C)Shut the **** up and move to Turkey with all the other wankers and support galatasaray and stab leeds fans...USA is OK
ENG-A-MUTHER****IN-LAND engerlund lalalalalala.. oh by the way turks are not wankers(well not all of em, MEHMET from EASTENDERS was alright)

baseball is definately not the most popular sport in the US (i am from syracuse, ny btw)...I would say american football and basketball are the most popular, then hockey and baseball.

As for MLS while it is true it is not very popular here...don't think the majority of people "bash" it, most people just aren't interested. I like the league and hope it does well. There are some fun guys to watch like cobi jones, razov, mcbride, etc. As for our national team, they are looking real good and I hope they are able to qualify for the WC (and perform a little better than the last world cup). Joe-Max Moore is talent.

hey DAVEY why are u getting that stabbing thing into this nice topic huh u have a problem damn yo u are some cave man or something u cant even run a topic right can u **** yo. u really piss me off by making these racist comments

HAHAHA WHO BEAT AMERICA IN THE NAGANO OLYMPICS IN ICE-HOCKEY?? F I N L A N D !
LET'S GO FINLAND !!! HEH =)

I live in Chicago. And every sport is important in this town, and every team in town sucks!. I think the most popular sports in the states are American Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, and then Soccer. I say football is tops because more people watch it and attend the games, and the Superbowl (Football Championship) is the largest televised event in the states.
As for MLS, the quality is poor but the people who live here have to support it, if they ever want it to succeed. It is a very young league, and it may take generations for it to improve.

Jari: Finland never played USA in Nagano 98. Your main accomplishments are beating Sweden and Canada. USA lost to Czechs in the first round of the knock-out stage.
btw, I saw most of the games, except Russia's 9:2 thrashing of Kazakhstan, 4:1 win of Belarus and 7:5 win over Finland. My favorite games were Czechs-Russia 1:0 and Finland-Russia 3:4. Russia was losing 2:0 and 3:1 but still was able to fight back and win the game. The reason why USA and Canada did poorly is because they gathered the team right before the Olympics and both expected to come and win it. As I watchh the news, they started to take Olympics seriously -- they already are making the '02 team. In fact, every country began to do so, except Russia. I have no idea what the hell are we waiting for..


Allright, the reasons why MLS is not interesting league.

1. Reglament. 2 conferences and play-offs? There is something wrong with that.
2. Just 12 teams. For a country like that, that is way too small.
3. The best reason -- no relegation/promotion. Those teams that try to do very good in "A" league only loose their players to MLS team and never get any chance of making the highest division. That sucks.
4. MLS do not have much money to pay their stars, so real soccer stars leave MLS for Europe. But MLS has money to pay players like Stoichkov, Mattheus, Azizi, Ravelli and others.
5. Soccer is just not popular here. I mean everybody plays it, everybody likes it (almost everybody), but if you look into Sports Illustrated, or ESPN the magazine, you will hardly find anything about the MLS. Once I found an article in ESPN the magazine about Michael Owen. You have no idea how I was surprised. They have about 1-2 pages about soccer in 50-page magazines. In order to make this sport popular, you have to have about 10 pages of soccer there. But this is capitalist world, meaning if the clients don't like something, and don't buy a certain product, distributors of that certain product will have to suffer through a loss of money, and thus make the product as the public wants it in order to buy it. But soccer is just interesting here to play. Nobody likes to watch nor read about it.



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scrudley ....are u on crack? saying that hockey is more popular than baseball? uve gotta be kidding me.......im a die hard rangers fan......and hockey is not more popular than baseball.....u look in the papers and hockey gets 2 pages of coverage and most of that is the rangers, devils and islanders. baseball always has like 10 pages......and college football and college basketball get more coverage than hockey......it does suck but that is the case...but seriously i wonder how u can say that....because is america...hockey is alwas struggling for media coverage and for games to be shown nationally....sure espn shows it ....but thats not exactly channel 4 or 7.....fox 5 only shows the playoffs....and seriosuly ..who the **** cares if america lost to finland and doesnt win in hockey and soccer nationally....we're too busy dominating every other sport ...........

Well, we dominate every sport because we made them up. Basketball, Rugby, and Football all have roots to soccer. But we made them (Not Rugby, but like baseball, US Football, basketball) up, henceforth we should be good at them. It reminds me of the "Rules of War" ole England mad back in the ole days of English domination. Heh heh heh.

As for the relegation, yes, the reason why they can't do it yet. Is a lot of the A-League stadiums are not equipped for more then 4,000 people (It would make the games sold out though, hehe). I mean, one of the conference champions Minnesota Thunder (from where I am) have capacity I think for 5,000. The top age groups play there for the US Cup, and the other teams play on the 42 fields outside of it. But the relegation/promotion is a good idea.

- I do watch and read about soccer all the time!


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