View Full Version : The longrange shooting in Fifa 09


s0105676
26-11-2008, 10:39:AM
I have no problem at all with the passing and the crossing. I create numerous changes in different ways : players through on goal, high crosses, low crosses,...

But there's something that just doesn't work for me : long shots. I already tried the following :

- shooting on assisted
- shooting on semi
- pressing left trigger for pace control. The results in the ball being very close to the player which results in difficult shooting. It also gives opponents-midfielders the opportunity to track back and put pressure on my player
- pressing left trigger only just before i press the shoot-button. The player doesn't slow down that much and sometimes the shooting seems a little bit better
- pushing the right stick in a direction to push the ball a little bit further to concentrate more on the shot. Helps a little bit, but the direction isn't always right and it needs a lot of space to pull of. Space you don't get on worldclass
- using finesse shot. But using finesse for a shot from long range just doesn't seem right, does it? I want power...

I just can't get this right. Even in situations when you think "a top-player should always get this shot right" it goes way over the bar and they start complaining about the player's balance.

I know you should try to put the player in a optimal movement, situation to take the shot, but the negative influence from player-speed and player-turning is way to strong. It should be able to let fly of a decent long shot when sprinting, it should be able to shoot right after you turn. But it isn't in the game. And i get the feeling they use the shooting to make the game more difficult. Because even on world-class i create lots of changes, but because of the shooting the game still stays difficult.

So I tried something different. I played with the Best of the world-team against a one star-team on amature-difficulty, only to try the long-shots. I played three games, had almost 90 shots, 30 of them were on target,... NONE of them went in. That's not realistic. This was a complete let-down for me, even when i had all the time and space in the world the shots just weren't realistic.

It kinda ruins the game. When playing online there's just two things you should defend : throughballs to the strikers and contain the wingers. Why? Because there's not threat at all from longrange. People don't even try long shots anymore because they know that the chance of scoring is... well there isn't a chance. So they keep passing until they create a chance inside the box. In two months of Fifa i scored maybe 4 goals with long shots. Two of them after a cross which was headed away by the opponents defence, and the other two cutting inside from the wing and scoring with a finess shot from just outside the box.

Does anyone have any tips to change this? I think a tried everything (no sprinting, pace control, right trigger,...), but it just doesn't seem to work.

arayas
27-11-2008, 01:16:AM
The shooting is not real in FIFA. Even other people have a different opinion, i stay on mine. First of all, this EA guys don't have a clue about football:

-shooting with exterior of the leg gives another spin to the ball comparing to the interior part of the leg. Example: in real life if you strike the ball with the exterior part of the right leg to ball normally goes spining to the right. Not in the game.
-the EA guys think simple: force=altitude. They have released the 2008 edition of this game and the players still don't have the natural movement when shooting is in discution. They look like they throw the leg to the goal, not the ball.

Your problem was my problem to sience 07 but with a little tuning of ai.ini file (using File Master 09) the shooting start to look allmost real. If you have the PC version! They are two of them:one in config.dat and the other in ini.big). For example i modified 2 simple things: "shoot ideal target high" (0,5 =player strikes the ball in the middle; more then 0,5 put the ball more to the ground, less then 0,5 you got more altitude) and "shoot restitution coef" increase the power of strike from a "first touch". In the end if you play with the parameters in that ai.ini file maybe you got the right, allmost real ball and shooting physics. Save one as a back-up. For example i put my ai.ini file here.

s0105676
27-11-2008, 08:50:AM
The shooting is not real in FIFA. Even other people have a different opinion, i stay on mine. First of all, this EA guys don't have a clue about football:

-shooting with exterior of the leg gives another spin to the ball comparing to the interior part of the leg. Example: in real life if you strike the ball with the exterior part of the right leg to ball normally goes spining to the right. Not in the game.
-the EA guys think simple: force=altitude. They have released the 2008 edition of this game and the players still don't have the natural movement when shooting is in discution. They look like they throw the leg to the goal, not the ball.

Your problem was my problem to sience 07 but with a little tuning of ai.ini file (using File Master 09) the shooting start to look allmost real. If you have the PC version! They are two of them:one in config.dat and the other in ini.big). For example i modified 2 simple things: "shoot ideal target high" (0,5 =player strikes the ball in the middle; more then 0,5 put the ball more to the ground, less then 0,5 you got more altitude) and "shoot restitution coef" increase the power of strike from a "first touch". In the end if you play with the parameters in that ai.ini file maybe you got the right, allmost real ball and shooting physics. Save one as a back-up. For example i put my ai.ini file here.

Thanks.

The direction of the spinning was very wrong in Fifa 08, in Fifa 09 on next-gen it seems about right.

So I can't edit the ini-files, because i play the game on X360.

It's very frustrating because i think they just use the shooting to make the game more difficult. They should fix it.

Tips for shooting on next-gen-consoles is still welcome...

O'neill
27-11-2008, 01:37:PM
I think long range shooting comes off too easily. I dont know how to help you but sometimes the space opens up and the oportunity and they seem to fly in quite easily.

http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156761

s0105676
28-11-2008, 02:33:PM
I think long range shooting comes off too easily. I dont know how to help you but sometimes the space opens up and the oportunity and they seem to fly in quite easily.

http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156761

Does it help to tap the shootbutton twice?