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Outsider 87 10-12-2008, 07:29:PM Hi mates. Thanks to fifaccitiu who found out the file used this year for armbands I have been able to make armbands different for each team with the same method used in FIFA 08. You can see the result in the screenshot.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4238/patchpe8.png (http://imageshack.us)
So, as you see, it will be possible to do an Armband Master 09. However there is a small problem: the file used for the arbmand this year is the same of the white right wrist tape. What does this mean? This mean that, when we change armband texture, also that tape (every colour, not only white one) will change accordingly and this is something I cannot change for the moment. So all the players having a right wrist tape will have instead a tape that is the same of the armband of that team. The only way to avoid this is simple: to delete the right wrist tape from the model. In this way you will not see any player with right wrist tape, but you will also not encounter this problem. What do you think? I think we can sacrifice the tape for the armband :D
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9872/problemyk4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Let me know!
Another time thanks to fifaccitiu and waiting for a signal also from Rinaldo about the program :)
RobbieD_PL 10-12-2008, 07:30:PM Maybe get rid of both Right and Left Wristbands?
Outsider 87 10-12-2008, 07:40:PM Maybe get rid of both Right and Left Wristbands?
Why? Politics par condicio? :D
apollox 10-12-2008, 07:42:PM Nice to see;)
Can you say which file is it for normal armbands and not team specific?
lanze07 10-12-2008, 07:43:PM Hmm good research Outsider!
Is there no way to let FIFA think that he has to use another texture instead the wristtape??? hmm
Outsider 87 10-12-2008, 07:46:PM Hmm good research Outsider!
Is there no way to let FIFA think that he has to use another texture instead the wristtape??? hmm
With my knowledge about it NO. This is the problem: in FIFA 08 there were 2 different textures for armband and wrist tape. This year there is only the same texture for both the 2 things :( I can change the name of the texture the game searches for and this is the way I can make the game use an armband for each kit. But I cannot duplicate the texture reading :(
Maybe there is a way, but I don't know it!
However: is it so a big problem to delete the right wrist tape?
Outsider 87 10-12-2008, 07:47:PM Nice to see;)
Can you say which file is it for normal armbands and not team specific?
t84__0.fsh
You find the file in zdata_06.big ;)
lanze07 10-12-2008, 07:57:PM nono there is no problem=) but what will be with the players wich have a wristtape? will I have to disable the wristtapes or what?
Outsider 87 10-12-2008, 08:04:PM nono there is no problem=) but what will be with the players wich have a wristtape? will I have to disable the wristtapes or what?
No no. Simply when you install the patch through Armband Master it will automatically delete the right wrist tape from the model. If then, you uninstall the patch, the right wrist tape will come back ;)
Keegan 10-12-2008, 10:24:PM Maybe you can make a CMS-compliant model using RD86's model for boots and deleting the offending wrist-band? I use that model for boots and my boots are the CMS standard anyway...
darxxx 11-12-2008, 04:28:PM I personally don't mind if you remove the wrist tape. Is it possible to make two patches, one with and the other without it. Then people would have a choice.
Moonraker 11-12-2008, 08:04:PM nice infos!
Moonraker 11-12-2008, 08:58:PM Hey Fabio,
why is my Tape transparent?
Can you help me?
http://s10b.directupload.net/images/081211/temp/59kjpq6r.jpg (http://s10b.directupload.net/file/d/1640/59kjpq6r_jpg.htm)
Outsider 87 11-12-2008, 09:36:PM Hey Fabio,
why is my Tape transparent?
Can you help me?
http://s10b.directupload.net/images/081211/temp/59kjpq6r.jpg (http://s10b.directupload.net/file/d/1640/59kjpq6r_jpg.htm)
What do you mean? The armband semi-trasparent or the fact that the wrist tape is not visible?
Moonraker 11-12-2008, 09:41:PM I donīt know, why my armband is semi-transparent!
FifaDemon2008 12-12-2008, 11:19:PM No no. Simply when you install the patch through Armband Master it will automatically delete the right wrist tape from the model. If then, you uninstall the patch, the right wrist tape will come back ;)
Armband Master??? You're having a laugh, right?
RobbieD_PL 12-12-2008, 11:28:PM Armband Master??? You're having a laugh, right?
8| ? He can call his program what ever he wants.
Outsider 87 13-12-2008, 11:08:AM Armband Master??? You're having a laugh, right?
Armband Master 08 was the name of Rinaldo's problem exploiting my patch for FIFA 08. How should we call the new program? :D
C'mon guys, you talking about patch names right now, outsider plz don't even reply to this stupid issues!!!!
FifaDemon2008 13-12-2008, 03:20:PM Armband Master 08 was the name of Rinaldo's problem exploiting my patch for FIFA 08. How should we call the new program? :D
Sorry, but I would've thought there are other things that could be worked on other than armbands!
crswind17 13-12-2008, 03:39:PM Like what...you can edit almost everything else with CM.
Outsider 87 13-12-2008, 10:09:PM Sorry, but I would've thought there are other things that could be worked on other than armbands!
You don't know nothing about the history of this patch, about how it has to be done and nothing about the editing history in general. So please don't talk about something you don't know, thanks :)
If there are people who want untucked jerseys and download a patch for it, surely there are more people who want a different armband for every team given that also editer, in this way, can make a lot of different armbands to install with the tool. The only problem is that a tool is necessary because the way I put armbands to teams is taken from FIFA 07 where there was a small file for armbands in the kit fsh (so for each kit). This file is not present in original FIFA 09 kits so a tool like Armband Master can take a league or some leagues and give all the kits of those teams the file they need. If you don't do a thing like that the patch makes the armband looking red-green, that is "missing texture".
Finally I know Rinaldo probably more of any of you here and I know very well what and when he can do things. Indeed this is not a priority neither for him neither for me: it's only an opportunity and surely Rinaldo will adapt the old program to the new FIFA in the future!
For now see this topic as: "hey mates, I found the way to do this. Editers, do your different armbands if you want, so that we can use them when the tool will be released..."
FifaDemon2008 13-12-2008, 11:55:PM You don't know nothing about the history of this patch, about how it has to be done and nothing about the editing history in general. So please don't talk about something you don't know, thanks :)
If there are people who want untucked jerseys and download a patch for it, surely there are more people who want a different armband for every team given that also editer, in this way, can make a lot of different armbands to install with the tool. The only problem is that a tool is necessary because the way I put armbands to teams is taken from FIFA 07 where there was a small file for armbands in the kit fsh (so for each kit). This file is not present in original FIFA 09 kits so a tool like Armband Master can take a league or some leagues and give all the kits of those teams the file they need. If you don't do a thing like that the patch makes the armband looking red-green, that is "missing texture".
Finally I know Rinaldo probably more of any of you here and I know very well what and when he can do things. Indeed this is not a priority neither for him neither for me: it's only an opportunity and surely Rinaldo will adapt the old program to the new FIFA in the future!
For now see this topic as: "hey mates, I found the way to do this. Editers, do your different armbands if you want, so that we can use them when the tool will be released..."
Look, it's still about patching armbands! Who cares??
lanze07 14-12-2008, 08:33:AM Me!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cares and 100ets too... so better be quiet....
Outsider did a great work because EA`s armbands suck....
Outsider 87 14-12-2008, 08:37:AM Look, it's still about patching armbands! Who cares??
Man, you make it or you are it?
You don't care, but a lot of people do. Indeed lots of people asked me about this patch before fifaccitiu found the armband file...
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=157042
So I don't mind if you don't like the idea, just respect the way we editers do things and the effort/time we put on them. Last year I saw some armband patches after the publication of the tool and there were also about 40-50 armbands with the tool itself. So there was a production of armbands by editers. I'm not so stupid to make a patch and to ask Rinaldo for a tool if the tool is not used at all. And sincerely I and fifaccitiu tried to find the armband file and the way to do the patch only because people asked about it, not because it was our priority. Last year I did the same for untucked jersey for example: I did the patch because lots of people asked for it. Or this year for the demo we resized the ball because lots of people asked for it.
Finally I ask you to leave this thread if you don't like the idea of a patch for it. There are plenty of thread to see (and to open :rofl:) and to post something constructive. Here you posted nothing constructive...
P.S: If this is a sort of personal revenge for the words I spent about replays for FA Cup, I think you have not understood that I was not offending your request. I was just honest to tell you that there is no way to do that and that there are lot of things to do BY EASPORTS before replays. Also before armbands there are lots of things to edit but, you know, we will never able to add the replay you want. So we do what we can do, let to EA SPORTS and to their intelligence what we cannot do.
FifaDemon2008 14-12-2008, 12:24:PM Man, you make it or you are it?
You don't care, but a lot of people do. Indeed lots of people asked me about this patch before fifaccitiu found the armband file...
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=157042
So I don't mind if you don't like the idea, just respect the way we editers do things and the effort/time we put on them. Last year I saw some armband patches after the publication of the tool and there were also about 40-50 armbands with the tool itself. So there was a production of armbands by editers. I'm not so stupid to make a patch and to ask Rinaldo for a tool if the tool is not used at all. And sincerely I and fifaccitiu tried to find the armband file and the way to do the patch only because people asked about it, not because it was our priority. Last year I did the same for untucked jersey for example: I did the patch because lots of people asked for it. Or this year for the demo we resized the ball because lots of people asked for it.
Finally I ask you to leave this thread if you don't like the idea of a patch for it. There are plenty of thread to see (and to open :rofl:) and to post something constructive. Here you posted nothing constructive...
P.S: If this is a sort of personal revenge for the words I spent about replays for FA Cup, I think you have not understood that I was not offending your request. I was just honest to tell you that there is no way to do that and that there are lot of things to do BY EASPORTS before replays. Also before armbands there are lots of things to edit but, you know, we will never able to add the replay you want. So we do what we can do, let to EA SPORTS and to their intelligence what we cannot do.
No, rest assured it's not anything to do with 'revenge', I understand that you can't do anything about EA's stupidity, I just don't think armbands are worth bothering with. My opinion, that's all. Obviously, I'm in the minority... I didn't mean to offend anyone or their work, that's not what I'm about, so if I have, I apologise.
As for your comment on the ball, wouldn't it be possible to make at least some of them look like footballs instead of basketballs? I don't agree with you when you say you don't notice it after a while, I still notice it and I've been playing the game a hell of a lot.
Silencer 15-12-2008, 12:04:AM And it ends here guys, it's big of Fifademon to apologise so now we can carry on with this thread.
I for one think that it's a great patch so I can play with Ajax' great captainsband again (Y)
Tizmo 05-02-2009, 06:24:PM Any updates on this?
cmc211 05-02-2009, 06:55:PM t84__0 is the main armband file
We know it!
Yes?
Outsider 87 05-02-2009, 07:23:PM t84__0 is the main armband file
We know it!
Yes?
Of course but editing only that file you will have only one armband for every team, not different armbands for different teams ;)
Gavatron 05-02-2009, 08:33:PM even a basic armband for everyone is better than the plain white thing we have to look at. Good luck with the production :)
ivanbee 24-02-2009, 03:22:PM Of course but editing only that file you will have only one armband for every team, not different armbands for different teams ;)
So how to make different armbands for different teams? show me the way please ... thanks!
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