he isn't called Rosicknote for no reason.

Bendtner and Denilson have signed new long-term contracts. (Y)

Eduardo's ban better get over-turned cause it's just rediculous, if the ref saw it....it would have been a yellow card and thats it, but because the ref made a mistake it costs him 2 games....UEFA is run by a bunch of ****wits

I love Eduardo and Arsenal, but I wish they would do these bans more often, at least in La Liga.

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/sep_09/gun__1252652837_eapotm_aug.jpg
Thomas Vermaelen has been named the EA SPORTS Player of the Month for August.
The Belgian defender scooped the official Club prize after a string of powerful performances at the heart of the Arsenal back four.
Thomas made a dream debut at Goodison Park, heading home Robin van Persie's free-kick to give Arsenal a two-goal lead. They went on to win 6-1 as the new boy adapted quickly to English football.
The summer signing from Ajax was just as impressive at Celtic in the Champions League, making a number of timely blocks and interceptions while developing a strong partnership with William Gallas.
Thomas' standards remained high in his three other August games against Portsmouth, Celtic and Manchester United and he has been recognised by the Arsenal fans with 34.9 per cent of the votes cast.
Gallas, who scored three goals last month, finished second in our poll with 22.5 per cent. Andrey Arshavin was third.

Highly deserved that's why I voted for him. Anyway big game at Middle Eastlands tomorrow (gonna kill Ade (H)!). Cesc is back and Theo and...Rosický could make the bench :). I like times like this...

Will we ever see Rosicky play at his best again? :(

Will we ever see Rosicky play at his best again? :(

yes he played a fantastic match and I think he would be essential for Arsenal.

Arsenal played a great match at front but they were poor and so unlucky at the back (I think City had 6 chances and score 4 of them). If Arsenal had their chance the draw was the least for Arsenal (at least the two last strikes from Van Persie). Van Persie goal was really really great, I think he scored similar goal against Chelsea a year ago.

Adebayor's one hell of the player but the guy is one nasty bastard. He didn't show any sign of sportsmanship with hitting van Persie in a head and that wild behavior in front of Arsenal fans, and if you're not done with that I got ...

To be honest, you miss a player like young Viera to organise your back.

I agree, Adebayor's one dirty ****. Shouldn't have did what he did with the celebration, and pretty sure he'll get suspended if they review the stomp on Van Persie.

Hahahaha!
I like times like this...

I hate times like this (H)

Will we ever see Rosicky play at his best again? :(

He was our best player next to Vermaelen, 1 goal 1 assist from him.

Adebayor is an a**hole...should have been carded for what happened to RVP, classless celebration and in the buildup to the game he was talinking all sorts of sh*t about Bendtner and Arsenal fans saying stuff like:
"City is that the fans are truly fans. They love you. Arsenal have a lot of fans who are not fans. Arsenal have fans from America and Jamaica. Today they are Arsenal fans, tomorrow they will be Liverpool fans and after tomorrow they will be Manchester United fans.
"

Pretty stupid if you ask me, and give City four more years if they continue like this,there will be a Malaysia derby whenever they play United.

We were quite urgent in the last few mins. and should have 3 goals and again like the United game we should have killed it off it the first few mins. RVP is not as sharp as he should be (could be Ramadan??).

Almunia is not the best keeper we could have,to say the least (Given would have been good but no chance now) and once again: MELO :(.
It's not all doom and gloom and Standard Liege on Wed. so "Let's f*ck 'em up".

exactly, as I said you need a general in front of your defence.

Given and Almunia, this could be one fact if Arsenal fails qualifying to CL and City places over 4th. Wow sh*tty play by Adebayor. That made Van Persie to hit the post :S and this actually needs suspension.

Anyway, Arsenal's crop from this match could be the 'Great comeback' by Rosicky.

I haven't been able to watch an Arsenal game this season, but I know Wenger didn't brought anybody after the Vermaelen deal, is Arsenal really that strapped for cash? let's not kid ourselves you been needing a real DM for ages now.

And the great Arsenal falls again. This happens every season and I don't know why I'm surprised. One loss means ****, obviously, but you had 10 shots on goal didn't you? Before you didn't shoot on goal, now you don't slot them in.

Also, 4 goals conceded from 6 shots for a Top 4 team is ridiculous. Don't you have any wonderkid GK?

http://www.arsenalpics.com/image/wojciech-szczesny-arsenal_1641917.jpg?pvw=1

Problem is his rise has been slowed down because of some arm injury he got...but he's made the first team this season...and his name is something like Szczznny,no vowels :((H).
I don't think we have really fallen...Chelsea have been impressive (result wise) but they have struggled against Stoke and Hull. We did not struggle against United and should have destroyed City earlier...
It's funny in a month ago people/the press have gone from writing us off to calling us title contenders to writing us off again.

Ade b*tching
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/van-persie-reaction-to-adebayor-incident

Who gives a **** Rosicky is back :bob:








but will be injured in less than a month:(.

If Eduardo's banned for his dive, Adebayor must be banned for his stamp. I know it's not the same governing bodies, but Adebayor's behavior on the pitch today throughout was just disgraceful. What a ******* prick

Fined maybe/possible/certainly but NO WAY they're banning him for an extended period of time. Maybe a game or 2, but not more....

If the ref wasn't blind, he would have seen this and sent him off. 3 matches for that alone is what he should get, maybe a few more for not even showing remorse, and being a total scumbag. Yes perhaps he was not happy about his time at the end of his Arsenal tenure, but you are a high paid athlete and should at least be professional about it. His actions after his goal were not sportsmanlike either, and Hughes should consider benching him for the United Clash next week, although that seems unlikely with no Robinho and likely no Tevez for that match already.

Problem is his rise has been slowed down because of some arm injury he got...but he's made the first team this season...and his name is something like Szczznny,no vowels :((H).


Haha, you were close.(H) Wojtek Szczęsny is a wondergoalie, just needs a chance to prove it.

FA to probe Adebayor stamp.

I hope they take a long time to decide on his suspension. Long enough to ALLOW him to play at ManU.........

If he's out for that game, United will tear a toothless Man City to shreds....

Some are saying City should deal with Adebayor internally, but that won't stop the FA from suspending him as well. Gary F*ckface Neville got 2 games for a celebration against Liverpool back in 2006, so Ade's celebration won't help him when the FA are reviewing the stamp. I can see him getting 2 or 3 for both incidents.

Adebayor should've been sent off... That Van Persie incident was definitely intentional. He should've got a yellow for stomping Van Persie and one more for his disgraceful celebration.

Haha, you were close.(H) Wojtek Szczęsny is a wondergoalie, just needs a chance to prove it.
How the hell do you pronounce that?!

The more deep question is, why would he even do that?

Thats the trouble with Arsenal fans, they love to dish it out but they can't take it back.

The way the Arsenal crowd reacted to Adebayor needs to be looked into as well. Ripping up seats and throwing missiles onto the pitch, one of which knocked a steward out cold, is no way for supporters to behave, however much they cry "provocation".

Those animals had childishly already worked themselves into a frenzy long before Ade scored his goal, and when I heard some of the filth being aimed at Adebayor from those so called fans, it did not surprise me at all when the player ran down the pitch to stick it back to them. Like I say, it's alright to dish it out but you have to be man enough to take it back when it comes at you.

What about Van Perie's reaction after he scored his equalising goal. Ignoring his team mates climbing all over him, he made his way off the pitch to stand in front of the City fans, and in a frenzy of uncontrolled hate, repeatedly abused the home fans and swore at them. Why was he not booked for leaving the field? Why is his behaviour not being looked at as well as Adebayor's?

And Arsenal fans I ask you this. Why the fu<k would any player with ambitions to win something before he retires, want to remain at a club who have no ambition? Who want's to play for a club who have won nothing in four years, and look as if they have no chance on Earth of winning anything in the forseeable future?

Sure Adebayor is an ignorant fickle twat, but is he any more of an ignorant fickle twat than the majority of gooners seem to be? I've never known a club's supporters who treat their ex-players with so much disdain and hate than Arsenal do. One moment they are kissing a players arse, and the next moment they want him hung drawn and quatered. It is pathetic you know.

I don't like Gallas ( as a person), because of his snide behaviour while he was forcing himself a move to Highbury, ( I bet he's sorry now), but he will never be given a hard time by Chelsea fans. We appreciate still, how he performed for us when he was a loyal Chelsea player. We simply tend to ignore him.

We certainly would not work ourselves up into a rabid rage, as the Arsenal fans at Eastlands did. Adebayor's behaviour is not the only thing that needs looking at regarding this match.

Gooners won't like it of course, but I feel that it needed to be said, and no-one else here seems to be saying it. (Y)

Was about to mention what Spoony (606 commentator) said when I read you post. Spot on Pede54. Gotta love how fans can dish it out, but can't take it when it comes back to them.

1. That is a long a** post (H) (good read though, and here is my long a** reply

2.I've never known a club's supporters who treat their ex-players with so much disdain and hate than Arsenal do. One moment they are kissing a players arse, and the next moment they want him hung drawn and quatered. It is pathetic you know.

It's not like Chelsea have been kissing William Gallas' ass each time we play them. And not all former Arsenal players receive hostile receptions Vieira , Anelka (suprising given the nature of his departure), Pires even spoke again recently about the awesome reception he received and should Henry come top the Grove he will get a standing ovation. Players like Cole and Ade left the club in the worse manner.

3.We certainly would not work ourselves up into a rabid rage, as the Arsenal fans at Eastlands did. Adebayor's behaviour is not the only thing that needs looking at regarding this match.

Those animals had childishly already worked themselves into a frenzy long before Ade scored his goal, and when I heard some of the filth being aimed at Adebayor from those so called fans, it did not surprise me at all when the player ran down the pitch to stick it back to them. Like I say, it's alright to dish it out but you have to be man enough to take it back when it comes at you.

Pretty strong reaction from them...but you must remember than Adebayor has spent a great amount of time berating the same fans that once loved him. Even the day before he was talking about how City fans are 'real' fans while Arsenal fans come from Jamaica and the US and are therefore not true 'fans'.
Adebayor did himself no favours, in 2008 after he had a great season and Milan and Barça rumours appeared he started saying all sorts of sh*t like "pay me like Henry"(:icon_spin:) and Milan is like getting it in with Beyoncé (what !?!)(2009). Most of last season he was the least committed player. His main complaint has been "Arsenal fans treated me badly". Bendtner and Eboué received the same stick as he did last season but no moaning from them just harder work. Sp*rs had that foul song about his father...yet he never went on their fans...and if it's the fans he had the problem with and not his 'brothers' at Arsenal...then why go in on RVP?

P.S.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/eduardo-s-suspension-is-annulled-by-uefa

Unfair but...

So Pete I take it you agree with the bans on Drogba (and Bosingwa?) after the semi-final last year?

Drogba perhaps but Bosingwa no mate.

I was there that night and I have never been so utterly deflated in all of my life. Anger and more anger was all I felt, and I was pretty vocal and abusive towards the referee. If Drog felt even half as angry as I did, then he had the reason to behave as he did. It wasn't right, but it was understandable.

Some Chelsea spectators(I won't call them fans), threw missiles onto the pitch, aiming for the ref I guess. They felt cheated and were angry but that doesn't excuse what they did. You simply cannot allow yourself to lose the plot completely, whatever side of the white line you may be.

1. That is a long a** post (H) (good read though, and here is my long a** reply

It's not like Chelsea have been kissing William Gallas' ass each time we play them. And not all former Arsenal players receive hostile receptions Vieira , Anelka (suprising given the nature of his departure), Pires even spoke again recently about the awesome reception he received and should Henry come top the Grove he will get a standing ovation. Players like Cole and Ade left the club in the worse manner.

All clubs have players who leave under a cloud somewhere along the line, usually after giving it the big I AM, but personally speaking once a player leaves Chelsea, he ceases to interest me much as a player any longer. I certainly would not allow a fool (although a rich one) like Ade to get under my skin so much. Like I said, at Chelsea we simply ignore Gallas. He does not play for Chelsea so he's nobody. :D


Pretty strong reaction from them...but you must remember than Adebayor has spent a great amount of time berating the same fans that once loved him. Even the day before he was talking about how City fans are 'real' fans while Arsenal fans come from Jamaica and the US and are therefore not true 'fans'.
Adebayor did himself no favours, in 2008 after he had a great season and Milan and Barça rumours appeared he started saying all sorts of sh*t like "pay me like Henry"(:icon_spin:) and Milan is like getting it in with Beyoncé (what !?!)(2009). Most of last season he was the least committed player. His main complaint has been "Arsenal fans treated me badly". Bendtner and Eboué received the same stick as he did last season but no moaning from them just harder work. Sp*rs had that foul song about his father...yet he never went on their fans...and if it's the fans he had the problem with and not his 'brothers' at Arsenal...then why go in on RVP?

P.S.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/eduardo-s-suspension-is-annulled-by-uefa

Unfair but...

I agree that Eboue and Bendtner have done things the right way, and it will hopefully be easier for them now, as their confidence grows, but as I said Ade is a twat, and a twat always behaves like a twat. You just can't allow someone like that to drive you into a frenzy, the likes of which I witnessed from a small section of the Arsenal away fans at Eastlands. Be angry and verbally slaughter the bloke for all I care, but to throw stuff on the pitch (apart from the stale pies), just takes it a little to far for me.(Y)

I agree that Eduardo should not be suspended. He did dive and I think we all know it, but it would be unfair for him to be the first to be punished by this little known law.

Now everyone is clear about that law by the way, I would hope that certain players who do that sorta thing, will perhaps think twice about doing it in the future. It's something our game really does not need.

Adebayor should've been sent off... That Van Persie incident was definitely intentional. He should've got a yellow for stomping Van Persie and one more for his disgraceful celebration.


How the hell do you pronounce that?!

Disgraceful? that celebration was in no way "disgraceful" Arsenal fans got what they deserved and im happy Adebayor dd that celebration Karma's a bitch

stupid arsenal fans started hating and slurring racial chants and hating on adebayor so he left (also money).

You are basically saying a Teams fans booing chanting racial slurs and hating their owns clubs player who has been their best player by far and gets this undeserved hate is ok yet adebayor returning the favor is all so bad? thats being totally hypocritical.

Arsenal Fans said **** yo to adebayor and adebayor said **** you back he has full right to respond to the disgraceful fans by scoring on his former team and shoving it in their faces. Why should Adebayor get banned and fans/arsenal not getting punished for fans behavior more harshly. and so what he ran to teh arsenal fans and celebrated right infront of them. Absolutly nothing bad about it. He responded to teh treatment arsenal fans gave him in the best way he could by scorign a goal and celebrating it infront of them. He didn't really taunt them or anything.

Also this is total bull**** Eduardo's Dive magically gets turned around.

now if Adebayor gets charged this will be total bull****. Arsenal has a clear dive ban reversed and a call for them will get a ban.

and if Adebayor gets banned Clichy should get a ban for taking a swipe at Adebayor.

I hear what you guys are saying, but Arsenal fans really must be fed up, this started with Cashley Cole and hasn't stopped, now it's Ade and Toure... I mean...

I hear what you guys are saying, but Arsenal fans really must be fed up, this started with Cashley Cole and hasn't stopped, now it's Ade and Toure... I mean...

yah the Arsenal fans are being a disgrace and not getting punished for it yet the player do for responding. totally stupid. Im very happy Adebayor did that celebration. Because the Arsenal fans deserved it for the way they treated Adebayor which was uncalled for.

Huh, you didn't get my point...

I'm not calling Adebayor's celebration alone disgraceful. It was a poor and immature thing to do, even Adebayor admitted that when he apologized. But when you take that and put it with the violent stamp on Van Persie and his constant fouls throughout, his overall behavior on the pitch reminded me of a spoiled child and was somewhat disgraceful. By the way I was NOT one of the Arsenal fans that turned on Adebayor, in fact I was disappointed when he left. Though I don't condone some of the harsh treatment some supporters gave him, Adebayor should remember that if it weren't for Arsenal he'd probably be **** all in France right now.

By the way Pede you really got us with your analysis of the state of Arsenal football club. Yea, the board has set out to have no ambition and not win anything in the near future, that makes sense:rolleyes: Obviously everyone at Arsenal wants to win something and is doing their best to make that happen. But we've moved to a state of the art stadium and we're managing our debt reasonably, both things can not be said about your club. Our manager has philosophies that he sticks to, sometimes I don't agree with him, but I respect him for them. So your claim that we simply don't want to win anything is absurd, of course we want to win something dearly, I'm not sure if I think we'll win something this year, but we're working within our own means and not burying the club in debt to make sure we'll win something as soon as possible.

I should have said,

"Why the fu<k would any player with ambitions to win something before he retires, want to remain at a club who HE PERCEIVES to have no ambition?"

My bad 'cos the way I put it sounds like I'm having a dig, and that wasn't the case.

I also appreciate the fact that your club are paying (in part), for the Emirates, and I also understand your traditionally frugal board don't want to over stretch themselves financially, and that's sensible, but even when Wenger is told he can buy players when he needs them, he doesn't buy them. What's that all about?

So Arsenal's problems do not stem simply from funding the Emirates, which in fact they have no problem in paying, considering the worth and earning power of Arsenal PLC.

The problems also stem from Wenger with his admirable, but ill advised philosophy regarding how the game should be played. He had a couple of great seasons when he first got here (like Mourinho), and then every other club worked out how to play such a one dimensional football team, and the trophy's dried up. If Jose would have stayed at Chelsea, I believe we would have also been in the same boat.

Jose knew when to get out. He knew that other coaches from other clubs, after 2 seasons of success for us, had found a way to overcome his once fresh ideas. Wenger should do the same, but he will not.

Perhaps eventually as the existing players get older, and if they stay of course, ( you do have a lot of players that consistantly want to leave Arsenal. Why is that you need to ask yourselves), Wenger might even win something again. It could be a long wait though I think.

Just my opinion lads, although I do know that the Arsenal faithful are very divided when it comes to Wenger. He's still a great coach of course, so maybe he should stick to coaching, and let someone else manage the team.

Personally I hope he stays where he is. As a Chelsea fan, I like it the way it is :D


I would still like to know why the FA have not charged Arsenal or their fans, for throwing missiles onto the pitch. Provocation has never been an acceptable excuse in the past, and it shouldn't be now.

The problems also stem from Wenger with his admirable, but ill advised philosophy regarding how the game should be played. He had a couple of great seasons when he first got here (like Mourinho), and then every other club worked out how to play such a one dimensional football team, and the trophy's dried up. If Jose would have stayed at Chelsea, I believe we would have also been in the same boat.


There is absolutely nothing wrong from being true to your philosophy or style of football, look at us at barca, our philosophy and relentless style of play has taken us where we are...

wenger just needs to find the right balance between youth players and singing experienced talents, when he does, his "one dimensional" football as you put it will be irrelevant...

I think its not just the philosophy of football but its his one dimensional policy of not having the right balance with experience and youth. Previously I thought he had that during the 1997-1999 and 2002-2004.

I mean he has signed the likes of Rosicky, Gallas and Arshavin, but they haven't contributed much towards changing the mentality of the club when it comes to dealing with bad results. I always saw Arsenal as team, that once they lose one game(after going on a good run) they'll start going downhill for a spell.

And why do players at Arsenal keep leaving after establishing themselves at the club? Just from recently, likes of Hleb, Flamini, Adebayor, who made their names at Arsenal all went to other clubs because they felt Arsenal was stagnating when they was still at the club(constantly called "a team in transition for god knows how long".

Currently I would say, Arsenal lack leaders on the pitch. Leadership comes from experience and Cesc could be seen as one(but still not proven fully), but if he's out, who'll be the one to rile up the players when they're down? Gallas? :D

There is absolutely nothing wrong from being true to your philosophy or style of football, look at us at barca, our philosophy and relentless style of play has taken us where we are...

wenger just needs to find the right balance between youth players and singing experienced talents, when he does, his "one dimensional" football as you put it will be irrelevant...


La Liga is a very different league to the EPL mate. That is the big difference. Wenger would be better off in Spain to be honest, or somewhere else where they play footie as a non-contact sport.

And if you are about to mention Barca's success in Europe last season, I have one word for you man......Ovrebo :D

nah wenger can only train a top club, and the top clubs in spain (2) wont hold up a coach if he dont win a tittle in a season.

Arsenal were a top club when Wenger arrived. They aint now. That has to tell you something. Any other club would have sacked him by now, but he suits the Arsenal board because he doesn't ask for their money, and they like that a lot.

i quite admire wenger for his football thought, Arsenal used to be a rock-football rude defensive team before Arsène.

La Liga is a very different league to the EPL mate. That is the big difference. Wenger would be better off in Spain to be honest, or somewhere else where they play footie as a non-contact sport.

And if you are about to mention Barca's success in Europe last season, I have one word for you man......Ovrebo :D

Haha still hiding behind that excuse... We have shown we have the ability to compete agains the english "brute" force defensive tactics:

2006: Final 2-1 Arsenal, also beat you that year
2008: Semi-Final 0-1 Manchester United
2009: Final 2-0, Manchester United(English Champions 3 years in a row)

Don't even try to say english clubs have the ability to dominate us, they always put 11 goalkeepers on the field...

Arsenal were a top club when Wenger arrived. They aint now. That has to tell you something. Any other club would have sacked him by now, but he suits the Arsenal board because he doesn't ask for their money, and they like that a lot.

Hows is wenger made arsenal not a big club, these are his stats

Arsenal(Wenger):
3 Premier League Title
4 FA Cups
1 UCL Final

These are your stats

Chelsea(since 2000):
2 Premier League Titles
3 FA Cups
1 UCL Final

does this mean you aren't a big club? is it because you have finished second place instead of fourth for the past 3 years??

confusious: "second place is the winner of the losers"

now found a reason for chelsea flop in europe.

You won some and you lost some mate, that's the truth of it, or do you not remember the times that we defeated you? Fanboys:rofl:

And as you are well aware, Ovrebo was not an excuse, he was the reason you won. You know it, I know it and the rest of the World knows it. You cannot paper over the facts mate. Your single goal would have been worthless if we had been given 2 of the 5 penalties that we were denied. Last season Barca were UEFA's blue eyed boys, so there was no way you were gonna fail. Truth.

I can see that you don't watch much English footie pal. 11 goalkeepers? You tart.

I said Arsenal were already a top club when Wenger inherited a winning squad. That squad could have had Steve McClaren in charge and they would have still won those titles and trophies.

As soon as Wenger dismantled that squad and began to build his own, things just got worse.

Confucious......Empty vessels make the most noise:D

Fanboys:rofl:

Confucious......Empty vessels make the most noise:D

Fanboys:rofl:

Irony

You won some and you lost some mate, that's the truth of it, or do you not remember the times that we defeated you? Fanboys:rofl:

And as you are well aware, Ovrebo was not an excuse, he was the reason you won. You know it, I know it and the rest of the World knows it. You cannot paper over the facts mate. Your single goal would have been worthless if we had been given 2 of the 5 penalties that we were denied. Last season Barca were UEFA's blue eyed boys, so there was no way you were gonna fail. Truth.



Really? Ironicboy :rofl:? Just 5 penalties? Why did I think you had 8?

We were not the only team helped by refs or should I remember you the Henry penalty in the 1st match + the incorrect Abidal red card. We just played the most outstanding football of the world, accept it.

Even if you would have scored 8 of the 8 penalties you were denied something should have happened and we had qualified. God of football really exists! And he never wants defensive with 10 men in the box ugly football in the most beautiful football competition.

I said in the semifinal match that the only clear penalty in my opinion is that one on the Pique's handball, and I keep my opinion.

Irony


Yet more Irony:D

Really? Ironicboy :rofl:? Just 5 penalties? Why did I think you had 8?

We were not the only team helped by refs or should I remember you the Henry penalty in the 1st match + the incorrect Abidal red card. We just played the most outstanding football of the world, accept it.

Even if you would have scored 8 of the 8 penalties you were denied something should have happened and we had qualified. God of football really exists! And he never wants defensive with 10 men in the box ugly football in the most beautiful football competition.

I said in the semifinal match that the only clear penalty in my opinion is that one on the Pique's handball, and I keep my opinion.

Well at least you admit that you were helped by the ref, that's something at least. The Abidal sending off was meaningless. The result was already decided before kick off, and the ref simply did that to evade any accusations of bias. Which you fell for by the way.:D

The God of football does exist for Barca, and his name is Platini.

And why do you Barca fanboys always have to bring Barcelona FC into every conversation? This was a discussion about Arsenal, but as usual you enter a thread and run your mouth off about your own club, like we would be interested anyway.

Try having a discussion without mentioning Barcelona, and there is a difference between a discussion and an argument. Don't argue, discuss. Do you appreciate the difference?

Well at least you admit that you were helped by the ref, that's something at least. The Abidal sending off was meaningless. The result was already decided before kick off, and the ref simply did that to evade any accusations of bias. Which you fell for by the way.:D

The God of football does exist for Barca, and his name is Platini.

And why do you Barca fanboys always have to bring Barcelona FC into every conversation? This was a discussion about Arsenal, but as usual you enter a thread and run your mouth off about your own club, like we would be interested anyway.

Try having a discussion without mentioning Barcelona, and there is a difference between a discussion and an argument. Don't argue, discuss. Do you appreciate the difference?

You are really biased about the Platini part. And we were 'helped' just because ref didn't give penalty at Pique. In rest our opponents were much more helped than us. From what I remember now the 2 things in the semifinal + red card for Ballack + a very clear penalty with Bayern.

I usually just watch this thread and I saw you reminded again bout that Ovrebo thing.

So, you say we didn't deserve the CL last year right?

Oh, and yeah you beat us in the past..But remember how you beat us in 04-05 ;) pfff...Ovrebo... :(

P.S: Sorry for Arsenal fans for this discussion. (Y)

Arsenal have the easiest group of all the English teams and they come back from 2 down to beat Standard Liege, a newcomer in the competition. Congrats on the win. A shame you didn't lose, that would've made it far easier to laugh at you.

And why do you Barca fanboys always have to bring Barcelona FC into every conversation? This was a discussion about Arsenal, but as usual you enter a thread and run your mouth off about your own club, like we would be interested anyway.

you brought us into the discussion, but whatever.. 11 goalkeepers was a comment i made about anytime we played an english team not the epl, learn to read dumb ass

if you read my post i defended wenger with stats, and once again finishing second instead of fourth doesn't make you a big club

you run your mouth like you are a big club, but you still have only 3 premiership titles and 5 fa cups to show... pfff small minded club without history

anyway end of this stupid discussion...

congrats on the comeback today arsenal mates(Y)

Arsenal have the easiest group of all the English teams and they come back from 2 down to beat Standard Liege, a newcomer in the competition. Congrats on the win. A shame you didn't lose, that would've made it far easier to laugh at you.

(H). Well thanks for not going into the discussion about the Barça v. Chels game.
We weren't anywhere near our 'best'...Mannone is our 3rd choice keeper and this was his CL debut...Almunia, Walcott, Denilson ,RVP,Nasri and Arshavin didn't play due to injuries and those first 5 mins. were pretty crazy:D.

Still Clichy was utter sh*t...second game in a row :(. Rosicky looked awesome, but sh*t in comparison to Vermaelen (excellent player, we will lose 5-0 the day he gets injured :().

Le Genius speaks

On Tuesday the Football Association charged Adebayor with violent conduct over the incident. By that time Wenger had seen the challenge again on video and he was far from happy.

“It looks very bad,” he said. “You ask 100 people, 99 will say it’s very bad and the 100th will be Mark Hughes.
(H) classic.

you run your mouth like you are a big club, but you still have only 3 premiership titles and 5 fa cups to show... pfff small minded club without history

I find comments like that very ignorant mind you. I initially wanted to stay out of this but since you put the classic "no history" it really shows all of us what an arrogant lot some of you are. I admit we're not as a big club as we'd like to be but we're slowly getting there. Look the old saying goes, Rome wasn't build in a day.

If, I'm saying IF Arsenal, went on another 20 years without a trophy and went to mediocrity(like we did after the 50s and 70s), and suddenly were on resurgence in competing with for honours. Would the opposing fans(fans who didn't witness Arsenal at their best previously) then say they had no history? Because they're too fu<king ignorant to find out and learn about whatever club they want to slag off.

As far as I'm concerned, the only reason Barca fans like Arsenal because they play a similar brand of football, which complements Barca because they are currently the master of the craft. In short, they like whatever feeds they're egos. I remember Arnau trolling and coming up with the same no history comment last year, but he apologized, which I thought was a decent gesture.

^^^ fair enough mate, i shouldn't have entered the discussion anyway, but it was kind of dumb to say wenger has brought arsenal down to not be a big club..

i apologize for i don't alot of the history of english football, there fore i can't say you have no history, it was a dumb comment i agree and i apologize..

all i was getting at was that you guys(pede) don't have the right to say arsenal isn't a big club anymore, especially when they have won more than you...

anyway lets end it here, sorry for this arsenal fans;)

good match today, i like the bednter goal it was great piece of strength by diaby, penalty was a bit unlucky but it made for an exciting game, congrats(Y)

Useless discussions ftw (Y)

On Tuesday the Football Association charged Adebayor with violent conduct over the incident. By that time Wenger had seen the challenge again on video and he was far from happy.

“It looks very bad,” he said. “You ask 100 people, 99 will say it’s very bad and the 100th will be Mark Hughes.

He's one to talk. If the roles were reversed, he would easily say, "I didn't see it.."

Even if you would have scored 8 of the 8 penalties you were denied something should have happened and we had qualified. God of football really exists! And he never wants defensive with 10 men in the box ugly football in the most beautiful football competition

Were was he when Greece won the Euro?? :blush:

Arsenal were a top club when Wenger arrived. They aint now. That has to tell you something. Any other club would have sacked him by now, but he suits the Arsenal board because he doesn't ask for their money, and they like that a lot.

I don't really want to get into this sort of topic again, but Wenger has a job because he's taken this club and established them as one of Europe's elite for over a decade, not just because he doesn't spend loads of money. I know very, very well that we haven't won a trophy in 4 years, but we've been there or there abouts at times and we're consistently in the knock out stages of the CL. The trophies have dried up for Wenger recently, but I'd say, and many would agree, that we're still one of the top seven or eight clubs in Europe, we've got a state of the art stadium that we fill up regularly, and we manage our debt properly unlike many other clubs as good as us.

I find that a lot of Arsenal fans(I'm surrounded by them) don't like the knew stadium, they preferred Highbury for whatever reason.

EDIT:My m8 just gave me a clip that articulates his feelings about the Emirates.

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Btw, the guy in the vid is John Lydon, aka Johnny Rotten(Sex Pistols frontman). A lifelong Gooner apparently.

Funny bit about the cannon on the emblem. In the video, its facing the wrong way. :D

So, are you 60, Zakov or just your mates?

I know that's not your mate in the vid, but why would someone not within 10 years of him in age share his feelings about the stadium? He doesn't even give reasons. But yeah, **** Arsenal either way.

Nah man. My m8s consist of people in all kinds of age group. My late dad was an Arsenal fan as well.
The video was just an example of how some of the Arsenal fans felt about leaving Highbury.

But most of the Gooners I know grew up going to Highbury. I even got the old 1992 Arsenal JVC jersey as a gift. wankers. :D

I have not been to the Emirates Stadium since it was open (went when it was almost open in 2005, went to watch Le Arse wreck Pompey 4-0 at Highbury) but from what I've heard from friends, and other places on teh internets pretty much the same feelings have been expressed (nice stadium, plastic atmosphere). Lots of people for one don't like that the stadium is called the Emirates so they call it Ashburton Grove...

I think that why the club has been making all that effort with the 'Arsenalisation' and 'RedAction'.
http://www.studs-up.com/comics/2009-09-16.jpg

Well I guess I could understand why some people born and raised in the neighborhood liked Highbury more. I was sad to leave Highbury, but more happy to move to Emirates and I couldn't have any complaints the time I went there. But the point I was making is that the Emirates does help make us one of Europe's top clubs with it's sleek design and more importantly 60,000 seats, even if it's not as working class looking.

How you rate Rosicky so far? He can be so helpful for you guys.

That lad vermelaen is gonna make it big at arsenal. reminds me of vidic..a relatively unknown defender turned into a world class defender.

Arsenal (Young Gunners) 2
wba 0

Goals: by the two fellas in the pic.... (Vela and Watt(aka Flava Flav)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2e14w9v.jpg

Indeed, Verminator rocks!!

Gallas - Vermaelen as forward and better than any other teams' one (H) but still Arsenal is **** on defence (Not actually saying Gallas and Vermaelen is bad and btw it is continuing problem. Some people say it is crap.)

Now feeling that Wenger is great at digging ability not only youngs or unknowns but also Adebayor's money instinct (H)(Y)

Wow, 10 Liverpool + Arse players are in top 30 scorer. They can make a formation.

----------------Torres - Eduardo ---------------

Benayoun ------Gerrard------Cesc--------Kuyt--

Johnson------Vermaelen----Gallas------Diaby----

------------------ :( :( ------------------------

Yeah, Arsenal have the most goalscorers in the Premiership this season. I think it's like 11/12 to Chelsea/ManU's 7 or so. It's good because it means you don't have to rely on any player for goals, but at a Top 4 club that should be a given, and it kind of feels like everyone is scoring because the strikers aren't up to it like other strikers are. But we'll see, I'm yet to see Arsenal play this season.

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/jul_08/gun__1216118991_wenger_join.jpg

13 years...this genius is now our long serving manager

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/09/30/sports/sports-uk-soccer-england.html?_r=1

We actually need a UCL trophy pretty badly, hope it comes soon :(.

Vermaelen is probably the best signing anyone made this summer.

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/jul_08/gun__1216118991_wenger_join.jpg

13 years...this genius is now our long serving manager

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/09/30/sports/sports-uk-soccer-england.html?_r=1

We actually need a UCL trophy pretty badly, hope it comes soon :(.

Without any doubt, Wenger's one of the greatest managers in the history of this sport. His work and trust to young players is highly appreciated.

By the way, I think if you get rid of your players' injuries, you have one hell of the team this year with lots of big names.

Arshavin
Eduardo
Van Persie
Wallcott
Fabregas
Nasri
Rosicky
Gallas
Sagna
Clichy
+ your new defender who played impressing so far, vermaelen

and lots of talents that will probably shine in future, Ramsey, Diaby, Song ...

I really enjoy to watch your games, you play football very very well.(Y)

Vermaelen is probably the best signing anyone made this summer.

Nah, Glen Johnson was the best signing...:innocent_smile_1:

Nah, Glen Johnson was the best signing...:innocent_smile_1:

Nah, he is 1.7 times (more) expensive than Vermaelen :browsmiley:
and he is not worth enough.

Another goal from Vermaelen. The guy is in incredible form!

Robinson assists the first goal of Blackburn (H)
Anyway, Arsenal is quite leading the game but wasting with numerous **** shots.



David Dunn goals. 1-2

Henry! (H)

Vermaelen! What a save when the ball hit the post. WoW


5-2, wallcott!

Fabregas!
1 goal and 4 assists!!! (H)

Becoming a legend of Arsenal?

Rosicky was class (Vermaelen ****ed too!) and Bendtner scored 8| Haha.

Fabregas!
1 goal and 4 assists!!! (H)

Becoming a legend of Arsenal?

he's just enjoying his last season as a gunner.

This Arsenal is really fun to watch, you're my favourite English rival this year, keep going.

This is the first time we've had the privilege to watch Arshavin and Rosicky play together and combine to great effect, let's hope they both stay healthy.

Congrats for all gunners! what a game.........

What a legend!

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/oct_09/gun__1254751630_henry_emirates05.jpg

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/henry

Legend. Thomas Vermaelen is his replacement.

Oh...Arsenal,i think Arsenal can to win this year Uefa Champions League.Team is a huge potential and Wenger's team can take advantage of this.

What a legend!


This is legend (H)

http://jzrblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/barcelona_posa_triplete-13.jpg

Haha (H)! Fair enough but this is also quite legend...

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cRjgwh7d25lF/610x.jpg

(H).

How about this?

http://xs344.xs.to/xs344/09413/pep20091004076901008_p2919.jpg

Rosicky looks cool.
Oh, Capello! (H)

he's just enjoying his last season as a gunner.
Wait at least 5 years, then there'll be chance for others.

Wait at least 5 years, then there'll be chance for others.

we all know that cesc will play for the team of his heart next season, coached by his childhood idol. Why do you think he likes the "4"? lol

we all know that cesc will play for the team of his heart next season, coached by his childhood idol. Why do you think he likes the "4"? lol


Whose spot will he take from the team?

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1871/foto393166cas.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/foto393166cas.jpg/)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9467/yes.png (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/yes.png/)

come back, prodigal son :(

Yeah, now that Arsène has taught him how to play the game, he's a prodigal son. (H)

bah, barça couldn't do anything to keep him, i remember was a mini-scandall here.

thieves :(.

Whose spot will he take from the team?

He will begin to take on xavi's role little by little

Yeah, now that Arsène has taught him how to play the game, he's a prodigal son. (H)

Oh yea like you guys have the best academy in the world???? We are going to perfect his play, turn him into what he was destined to be, kinda like this:

http://jzrblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/barcelona_posa_triplete-13.jpg

:biggrinx::biggrinx::biggrinx::biggrinx::biggrinx:

sorry arsenal mates, couldn't resist...

He will begin to take on xavi's role little by little



Oh yea like you guys have the best academy in the world???? We are going to perfect his play...


He was better during his Arsenal days.

Take Xavi's role? Xavi is only 29, he can still play world class in his position for atleast 4 more years. You expect Cesc to wait that long?

Take Xavi's role? Xavi is only 29, he can still play world class in his position for atleast 4 more years. You expect Cesc to wait that long?

we need a guy who can split time with xavi, if he gets injured we are screwed...

pep is thinking in the future, its risky playing xavi in the champions league/copa del rey/la liga/and supercups we normally play/world club championships, pep wants cesc back so he doesn't run that risk...

like Arnau said he will come back to the club of his heart, he has "Barca DNA"(Y)

we need a guy who can split time with xavi, if he gets injured we are screwed...

pep is thinking in the future, its risky playing xavi in the champions league/copa del rey/la liga/and supercups we normally play/world club championships, pep wants cesc back so he doesn't run that risk...

like Arnau said he will come back to the club of his heart, he has "Barca DNA"(Y)

Barca can easily fit both in their starting line-ups. With Henry getting old next season they can line up something like this:

---------------------------Valdez-------------------------
Alves------------Puyol---------------Pique---------Maxwell
------------------------Busquets/Yaya--------------------
-------------------Xavi-----------------------------------
-------------------------------------Cesc----------------
-----Messi---------------------------------Iniesta---------
---------------------Zlatan/Bojan-------------------------

That is amazing. Potentially they can have 9 guys who came up through they youth ranks. impressive team

Barca can easily fit both in their starting line-ups. With Henry getting old next season they can line up something like this:

---------------------------Valdez-------------------------
Alves------------Puyol---------------Pique---------Maxwell
------------------------Busquets/Yaya--------------------
-------------------Xavi-----------------------------------
-------------------------------------Cesc----------------
-----Messi---------------------------------Iniesta---------
---------------------Zlatan/Bojan-------------------------

That is amazing. Potentially they can have 9 guys who came up through they youth ranks. impressive team

Exactly. That would be the line-up with Cesc, Iniesta and Xavi in the pitch.Cesc don't need to substitute Xavi.

I don't think Iniesta will score as many goals as Henry in this position though. He's more of a creative playmaker than a forward from what I've seen. But you never know.

for guardiola doens't exist 11 fix players, henry don't score a goal sinze 2 may and we still win matches.

I don't think Iniesta will score as many goals as Henry in this position though. He's more of a creative playmaker than a forward from what I've seen. But you never know.

But he'll provide many more. Many of our best matches last season were when Andres was playing the wing.

Oh my god, get the f*** out, all of you.

^^
Yeah, really, and stop acting like it's guaranteed he'll be there next season. Of course there's a good chance he will be, but Barca supporters are acting like he's already rightfully their player. Just because he grew up there and loves Barca doesn't mean he's yours, right now he's ours, and guess what he loves it here right now, that's what some of you are too thick headed to understand.

Err...so we've got Birmingham tomorrow which means the spirit of Martin Taylor (who ironically misses this game through injury) which injure one of our players and our season will be left in ruins :(.

Then again we always suck on my B'day so we are screwed regardless.


Edit: This too

http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/oct_09/gun__1255703928_gallas_birmingham.jpg

Edusrdo´s injury is one of the worsts i´ve ever seen... BTW, this thread is looking more like a Barcelona Tread rather than a Gunners thread...

Oh my god, get the f*** out, all of you.
Ahahahaha. I was reading this entire page and got to your post and didn't get it at all. Until I realized this wasn't the Barca thread.

Arsenal - Birmingham 3-1
HIGHLIGHTS

http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/424245
http://www.mediafire.com/?gd3ywxc2xkw

We're in the top 4, for now anyway.

you guys are like clockwork atm. (Y)

Apparently we are looking at Super Mario...but unfortunately it's not this one :(.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Mario_-_Super_Mario_Galaxy.png/256px-Mario_-_Super_Mario_Galaxy.png

Would have been awesome though :rolleyes:, imagine him with Arshavin?

Good game so far RVP on form (1 goal + 1 assist), Mannone looking more confident (I think he's now the 1st choice)...oh and atm we are 3 pts behind the leaders with a game in hand (H).

And yet again we show our inept handling of the lead. We played well for 76 minutes, but we really are a bit clueless when teams our pressuring us, and when we can't play the tactic where the best defense is a good offense. Sometimes the momentum of the game forces you to sit back and defend for spells, and that's when we usually seem to get into trouble. Also, we still don't have a goalkeeper whose ready to be top quality and reliable. But c'mon let's make up for this with a win against Spurs, I really don't like them this year.

Good game so far RVP on form (1 goal + 1 assist), Mannone looking more confident (I think he's now the 1st choice)...oh and atm we are 3 pts behind the leaders with a game in hand (H).

Looks like you spoke too soon huh. (Y)

I think Arsenal miss players that provide consistent stability to the defense like the likes of Martin Keown and Tony Adams.

Arsenal currently lacks top class goalkeeper (Green could be better than them) and need some consistence.
Looks like you spoke too soon huh. (Y)
Haha
:( :D

Looks like you spoke too soon huh. (Y)

:(

Spurs tomorrow, enough said.(H)

Amazing stuff, and what a goal by Cesc. Goal of the year surely.

Could've masturbated to that football if I wasn't so lazy, I trust at least one of you in a more fitting time zone did just that.

Great result.
Surely Keane will shut up now.

Amazing stuff, and what a goal by Cesc. Goal of the year surely.

Could've masturbated to that football if I wasn't so lazy, I trust at least one of you in a more fitting time zone did just that.

I did (H)! What a game that was,more of the same please.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4444/roflbottzve.jpg

(H)!

Haha(H)

played pretty average and won 3-0, pretty good signs...could have and should have won 5-0 atleast, missed so many easy chanced, against good sides we won't win playing like that

Gael is going to be out for awhile, he has a stress fracture in his back. Gibbs is an able deputy though.

Gael is going to be out for awhile, he has a stress fracture in his back. Gibbs is an able deputy though.

I can't tell the difference 1/2 the time out there. They both are light skinned Blacks, both are fast, and both are erratic on defense :P

I can't tell the difference 1/2 the time out there. They both are light skinned Blacks, both are fast, and both are erratic on defense :P

Rassist.

Rassist.

Hope this is sarcasm?

Pointing out that ones skin color is black is not racists... Now if I say damn those <Insert N Word> now that would be racists. Quit being Politically correct just to appease some race, or religion... Life would be so much better if you didn't.

Why would you need to point out their skin colour in making an argument on their ability to play football?

Oh, wait, I forgot Nim's quote about Mississippi...

I wonder what Mississippi is like.

I wonder what Mississippi is like.

a bunch of muddy roads and a lot of trees...you see no life when you drive through there...that's my personal experience

First of all I wasn't born in Mississippi nor was the majority of my life raised here.
Second of all you are being more hypocritical of where I live then I was stating that a black man has black skin... OMG THAT IS SO RACISTS... POINTING OUT 2 PLAYERS WHO ARE FROM AFRICAN DESCENT HAVE LIGHT BLACK SKIN, FAST, AND PLAY THE SAME ERRATIC DEFENSE IS SO SO SO SO SO SO ******* RACISTS... LETS ALL CALL REV. JACKSON... I CAN SEE IT ON CNN...

TAWALKANA CALLS GAEL CLICHY AND KIERAN GIBBS BLACK... THIS SENDS BACK DECADES OF WORK IN AMERICA BEHIND...

Where in any of my comments are racists or even had a racists intent? None of them... I stated I am confused on who is playing LB 1/2 the time because they Play the same way and LOOK THE ******* SAME... how ******* stupid do you have to be? This is the problem with people these days... they don't actually ******* read what is said and just start propaganda and speculating.

Why would you need to point out their skin colour in making an argument on their ability to play football?

Oh, wait, I forgot Nim's quote about Mississippi...

Also... where in any of quotes am I arguing about their ability to play football? All I stated is that I am confused 1/2 the time on who is playing LB at the time because they both are light skinned blacks... This is what we call in English an ATTRIBUTE that contributes to the problem IE: Me Being Confused. They both are also FAST another ATTRIBUTE that contributes to the problem IE: Me Being Confused, They both are also erratic on Defense which also is a contributing Attribute to me being confused...

So who actually is perpetuating the racism here? Cause my comments have no where near been racists.

You can't tell the difference between one light-skinned black person and another? That's racist, dawg.

I think tawal is this guy.

Ll-lia-FEIY

Arsenal looks scary.

C'mon give Tawalkana a break fellas. If you had 2 players on the pitch playing for the same team, and both these players were of similar height and build, and both those players had shaved heads, then I would suppose that it would be likely that I might confuse those two players sometime during the game, especially from a distance.

I've mistaken Malouda for Kalou and visa-versa on a few occassions while in the stands at the Bridge. I've also made a similar mistake while watching a game on TV too. I've never confused Malouda with Lampard though and the reason for that is obvious, Lamps aint black.

So a persons skin colour is definately an attribute that is used to describe that person, whatever his skin colour might be. To do so just cannot be judged as a racist act. Your height, build, hair colour, eyes colour and ethnicity are all used to describe you to others, and there is nothing racist in doing that.

You know by now that I can't tolerate any form of bigotry, and if I thought Tawalkana intended to use skin colour as a put down, then I woulkd have been the first one on his case, but he didn't. He was simply stating that both players physical appearances were similar, including their skin colour.

Tawalkana....I think Az was teasing you mate, and when you came back to defend yourself, he couldn't resist carrying it on. :) I might be wrong but when someone comments "rassist" instead of racist, I think it can be accepted that the remark was made more in humour than anything else.

Anyway just my opinion.

If you really wanted to bitch about it, Clichy is thicker than Gibbs. Kieran is a lanky boy.

bad luck for Eduardo, both goals written down as own goals.

Wolverhampton - Arsenal 1-4 ::: goals
http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/429212

I don't think I was this excited about Arsenal's quality for all of last season. I don't mean to get carried away, I know things could change quickly, but this team is really exciting when their best players are in top form, mainly Van Persie and Fabregas lately.

Cesc is playing better than he ever has, but our star player now is definitely van Persie. I really wanted him to get a goal today but he was unable to score when he tried to round Hennessey. Today we did not start out well but were still able to get 4 goals.
The thing that struck me today though was when we brought on Nasri & Rosický...talk about a solid bench :D! After the Intl. break we then should have Theo & Bendtner back, plus Nasri should be fully fit all in time for...Chelsea:skip_e:.

we get Denilson back soon, too.

Bendtner will be out for a few months, having an operation on the injury.

Cesc for the Ballon d'Or....nuff said.

Tough luck, Robin tore his ankle-ligament after just 10 minutes into the match against Italy. Here is a vid

haoGpaWMaww

The hell is wrong w/ Chiellini!:mad:. Seems like RVP is gonna be Robin van Recuperate for some time now :(...hope he makes the Spartak London game .

Tough luck, Robin tore his ankle-ligament after just 10 minutes into the match against Italy. Here is a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haoGpaWMaww&feature=player_embedded#

arghh...That's so painful!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09BU5I3aqfgXu/610x.jpg

I don't think that Chiellini meant it. He went for the ball and was a bit unlucky to catch Robin's ankle in the process.

In a damn friendly. Now B52's injury hurts :(

Oh what a terrible injury. Don't think this one is intentional.

Oh ******* hell this is soooo frustrating. This team was doing so well with him in the center of the action, and once again the international breaks **** it all up. We really need Eduardo to step up and take on Van Persie's position and try to get some of the goals he was scoring.

He will be back in 4-6 weeks.

4-6 weeks no surgery

This is when it would of been nice of Wenger to make a signing like Rafael van der Vaart. Left Footed Attacking Midfielder who can play both Wing slots and both CM slots in front of Song, not to mention played some ST at HSV... Oh and he would of added something that we dont' have... A LONG SHOOTER!!!!

Oh well I guess the mad Russian and Dudu will need to step it up.

We have depth, we haven't exactly run Nasri and Rosicky into the ground.

I would have never expected to see placenta in a footy article.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=699533&sec=england&cc=5901

That's ******* weird.

This is interesting.

Ha! Why not? if i was V. Persie i would try it too.:) I understand him very well.He was at a very high point in his career, next year it will be the WC in South Africa,Arsenal also needs him, he's desperate and he could try anything.Well done Robin !

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46748000/jpg/_46748476_arsenal2.jpg

ARSENAL STARS GET FURRY FOR GREAT ORMOND STREET HOSPITAL CHILDREN’S CHARITY

Arsenal Football Club is today proud to release ‘Fundraising Day’, a promotional short film starring Cesc Fabregas, Theo Walcott, Andrey Arshavin and Bacary Sagna dressed as furry animals in aid of Great Ormond Street Hospital Children’s Charity (GOSH), the Gunners’ Charity of the Season.

The light-hearted film sees the players and Club Manager Arsène Wenger join forces with four patients from the Hospital as they embark upon the streets of London to fundraise for the charity. ‘Fundraising Day’ reflects the players’ support for the children and their families who are treated at the world-renowned Hospital as they will be donating a day’s wages to help raise funds on Sunday 29th November when Arsenal dedicates its Premier League match against Chelsea Football Club to the Charity.


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Wierd but it's for a good cause:confused:

Cesc with white clothes. Bastards.

That's fun, but I imagine they would've raised more money with their kits on!

Not necessarily...

Arsenal's first match in this season with scoring no goals (and a loss). Because of RVP missing or international break?

Bruce has assembled a good squad at Sunderland, it's not THAT big of a deal that they lost. Although, have Arsenal defeated any relatively tough squad yet? Not counting Liverpool in the cup, you've lost to Sunderland, ManU and City. If I'm not mistaken, you've only faced the bottom sides other than those.

If that's true, then it's very nice that you thrash the small sides, but you're just gonna pull another Arsenal year by starting with promise and then finishing 4th.

I heard that because of all our injuries we're appealing for a replay.

Looks like Jeffrén will go to Arsenal on loan this winter.

Looks like Jeffrén will go to Arsenal on loan this winter.

Jeffren for Cesc should be an even trade :icon_spin::icon_spin::icon_spin:

BTW seriously, that is good news he is gonna be a quality player, and we are sending him to the perfect shool to learn, a club who has duplicated our style of play(Y) I can't wait to see what wenger can get out of him, take good care of our boy while he matures(Y)

Jeffren for Cesc should be an even trade :icon_spin::icon_spin::icon_spin:

BTW seriously, that is good news he is gonna be a quality player, and we are sending him to the perfect shool to learn, a club who has duplicated our style of play(Y) I can't wait to see what wenger can get out of him, take good care of our boy while he matures(Y)

Not happening.. Conspiracy theory's to the max.... How many times do these reporters have to carry on teh same dribble about Cesc anytime Arsenal loses? They lose 1 game and the headlines the next day "Cesc Wants Out", "Cesc Wants to Go Back to Barca"... Yeah he wants to go back when Iniesta or Xavi are gone cause their is ZERO room for him at CM right now.

-----------Ibra------------
-Iniesta--------Messi------
------Xavi---Fabreagas----
---------Toure------------

-----------Ibra------------
-Iniesta--------Messi------
------Xavi---Fabreagas----
---------Toure------------

My exact formation! People forget that Henry is planning to leave for the MLS soon.

Not happening.. Conspiracy theory's to the max.... How many times do these reporters have to carry on teh same dribble about Cesc anytime Arsenal loses? They lose 1 game and the headlines the next day "Cesc Wants Out", "Cesc Wants to Go Back to Barca"... Yeah he wants to go back when Iniesta or Xavi are gone cause their is ZERO room for him at CM right now.

There was no talk about Cesc. Arnau mentioned Jeffren might be loaned to Arsenal and Arg made a joke that we could trade him for Cesc. The rest of his post was referring to the loan deal.

Crap :(.

too bad gunners didn't put on a better show today, when van persie's back im sure there'll be a much different score. chelsea forever though haha.

The more the game progressed today, the more I realized how much I absolutely despise Arshavin. He plays like one of those kids you always hated to be on the same team with in elementary and high school, all flash and 0 work rate.

Jeffers is better than any fit striker on this team.

Is it me, or has Walcott worsened with time? He was really dangerous at last year's FA Cup, and today I nearly sighed whenever he got the ball. Worse decision-making than Nani.

Walcott is just really fast, that's pretty much it. He's a 1.5m GBP player if he isn't English.

Is it me, or has Walcott worsened with time? He was really dangerous at last year's FA Cup, and today I nearly sighed whenever he got the ball. Worse decision-making than Nani.

To be fair to him he has been injured for most of the season...but I have for some time started to think that he has been overrated, apart from the Croatia game and to a lesser the FA Cup semi against Chelsea, he has not had any stand out games.
Eduardo also seems not to be able to fit into our 4-3-3 or maybe even our long term plans (he has signed a 'long term' deal though...and I have started to feel we should have gone for Chamakh :(). Both he and Vela seem to destroy opposition every Intl. break but are unable to do the same for Arsenal.
We are going to need Bendtner to come back quickly, since it's crosses we continue to hit in to our tiny fowards. The worse thing about the Chelsea game is that they might have seen less of the ball but they were galaxies ahead of us...oh that and Ca$hley (despite the booing) got in a two assists and the 'f*cking disgrace' made in 10-in-9...

Robin van Persie please come back :(.

So, another trophyless season? :(

FA Cup & UCL (yes the Champions League) are still possible and we are still in the Carling Cup (even though I think City will knock us out). It's not like I had that many high hope before the Everton game...


900th Post: Ugh! I have lost my life :(.

We're only a third of the way in to the league, Arsenal still have a shot, and you have that shot because despite the fact that ManU and us are pretty far ahead in terms of quality and depth (you can argue with this all you want, it's true), you're capable of and should be beating the other teams. I'd get the CL out of your heads. Only a full-strength, in-form Arsenal side can win the CL, otherwise you'll fall to any really big club. Out at the semis like last year.

You could do the League and FA double, though. It's something.

Arshavin's goal should have stood imo.

Yea, it was foot on ball from Eduardo. But we wasted to many chances trying to walk it into the net.

AW says he'll be a striker in the window. Hopefully one over 5'5".

GG, youngsters. Weiss > your entire youth system.

Is it me or were the three goals due to shyte defending and almost-miss lucky shots?

Just you. 1st = Tevez pwnage, 2nd = SWP pwnage, 3rd = Bellamy pwnage, with a little help from Weiss.

Aye, completely unbiased analysis, cheers. (H)

Watched the match, missed the SWP goal, but Bellamy's run for the 3rd, and Teve'z 1st goal did, to quote Rony and Shakespeare, "pwn" you.

the arsenal kids played pretty well tonight, except vela he was absolute rubbish, closely followed by walcott. bartley and gilbert looked like great players so did sunu when he came on. Song was outstanding in the middle of the park and did not put a foot wrong. I

I'm starting to lose faith in vela he just does not know how to finish and his decision making is very poor. overall pretty good performance probably should have won the game and once again the only missing link is in the final third....

Better get used to Vela, Bendtner is out until at least next year.

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas has revealed manager Arsene Wenger reacted to the Gunners' first half performance with a fit of rage during the interval at Anfield.

The north London-based outfit came from behind to beat Liverpool 2-1 on Sunday, but had finished the opening 45 minutes behind, leaving the Frenchman furious, according to Fabregas.

“The boss screamed at us like I've never seen before,” he told Sky Sports.

“He was really disappointed in the first half and we were not at our best – that we didn't deserve to wear the Arsenal shirt.

“We played like that, and I think that gave us a boost. I think he was right, we were not good in the first half, we were not up for it and in the second half we turned it around and I think we played one of the best second halves of the season.”

Thomas Vermaelen revealed that he was also shocked by Wenger's half-time team talk.

“I've never seen him before like that. I think we just reacted very well,” said the Arsenal stopper. “The first half was really bad on our side, second half, we put some pressure on them and you see the result.”

Asked if he thought Liverpool could have had a penalty after a William Gallas challenge on Steven Gerrard, Vermaelen was absolute in his opinion, while he revealed the win was a big one for the club.

“No, I don't think so because the ball was already miles away,” said the Belgian.

“For us it's very important [the victory] because we close the gap a little bit now, we're back in the race now.

Fabregas was impressed by the way Liverpool closed down his side's play in the first half.

He added: “I think that put a lot of pressure on us in midfield.

“They didn't let us play as we like but we imposed our game in the second half that was very important.”

The Arsenal captain also praised Andrey Arshavin's goal and reflected on the message the result sends.

“[The goal was] Unbelievable but I'm not surprised, I see him every day in training – I know what he can do. He is a special player and we need him badly,” said Fabregas.

“There is still a long way to go, but the Premier League season is more open than ever and anyone can beat you, you can beat any team and I must say – I like it that way."

Aww, Wenger's hair drier effect.
This is likely about FM locker room talk at halftime. (H)

Maybe his say could be a motivator for them (Or Glen Johnson's own goal). Play at the second half was completely different from their play at first half.

Yeah and Arshavin's goal was well taken wasn't it. I think the Liverpool fans would probably agree with me now though, that Howard Webb is without a doubt a joke of a referee.

Good win for the Arse, and certainly makes the league title race more exciting. Wenger looked pretty chuffed at the end.

The 'Anfield Nightmare' strikes again. Great goal by Arshavin!!

so, will you/wenger finally allow cesc to play for his country or not?

Who cares, its just a Barca-propaganda/political thing anyways that Barca fans only want to see.

i mean the match btw Catalunya and Argentina, EPL doesn't stop at Christmas.

When we aren't in the middle of an injury crisis during the match.

i mean the match btw Catalunya and Argentina, EPL doesn't stop at Christmas.

Will Messi play for Argentina or Catalonia?

Unfortunately Argentina, he's half catalan anyway.

lol will be weird seeing him playing against most of his team mates.

It seems like every season Arsenal are a couple of matches behind the rest of the EPL. Is this just my imagination? It's always bothered me a bit that the league is so out of synch. La Liga only gets off track under special circumstances.

It seems like every season Arsenal are a couple of matches behind the rest of the EPL. Is this just my imagination? It's always bothered me a bit that the league is so out of synch. La Liga only gets off track under special circumstances.

Because England has two domestic cups, plus European competitions.

Because England has two domestic cups, plus European competitions.
That kiiiiinda makes sense. But that doesn't explain why Arsenal and Man City are the only teams that have played 15 matches. Are they the only two in four competitions?

On a side note, when will the Carling Cup die away? What a weak competition.

It won't. It's actually possible to play in three domestic cups and Europe, if a League Two team won the FA Cup they'd play the next season in the League, the Europa League, the FA Cup, the League Cup, and the Football League Trophy.

So they would get automatically promoted to the Premiership? Didn't know that. Has anythign like that ever happened?

No.

It happened in Scotland, actually. Queen of the South and Gretna both did it. They lost the Scottish Cup final but both times the winning finalist had qualified to the CL (Rangers for QotS, Hearts for Gretna) so the loser went to the UEFA Cup. The next year they played in the Scottish First Division, The Scottish Cup, The Scottish League Cup, and the Scottish Challenge Cup.

Dunfermline did it too, but they did it a different way. They got to the final of the Scottish Cup and were beaten by Celtic, who qualified for the CL so Dunfermline went to the UEFA Cup. Dunfermline got relegated that season, so they were in the First Division while playing in Europe. I think some team from Iceland beat them.

F*ck, not again. :(

finally a goal for Eduardo!

F*ck, not again. :(dude I hope you're moaning because your two (unbalancedly, I hope and assume) favourite clubs are meeting again, not because you fear Le Arse :rolleyes:

Well, it's not like we've been successful against them in the past couple of years...

And no, apart from the fact that if Porto doesn't win the Champions League I want Arsenal to win it, I obviously don't have any kind of issues in trashing their arses (H)

True but the past encounters were on the group stages and stakes weren't this high...I'm sure we'll handle them well enough and get through to the next round.

It'll be extremely hard to hold them at the Emirates but if we manage to get a good home advantage it's a matter of playing a balanced match in England.
I'm pretty sure Wenger will play for the 0-0 yet again at the Dragão, putting all of his faith on the second leg, and that will cost him dearly. And I'm all for it (H)

We don't play for 0-0 anymore because we can't defend.

He also paid tribute to the Gunners faithful, adding: "I am happy, I sometimes think they like me more than my wife."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5796982,00.html

(H)

No.

It happened in Scotland, actually. Queen of the South and Gretna both did it. They lost the Scottish Cup final but both times the winning finalist had qualified to the CL (Rangers for QotS, Hearts for Gretna) so the loser went to the UEFA Cup. The next year they played in the Scottish First Division, The Scottish Cup, The Scottish League Cup, and the Scottish Challenge Cup.

Dunfermline did it too, but they did it a different way. They got to the final of the Scottish Cup and were beaten by Celtic, who qualified for the CL so Dunfermline went to the UEFA Cup. Dunfermline got relegated that season, so they were in the First Division while playing in Europe. I think some team from Iceland beat them.

man, your info rocks.

Fabregas was super sub, sorry Fab sub.

Watched the second half against Villa, and once again, you didn't disappoint.

I love watching you guys play, due to your beautiful style, mainly brought by Cesc's brilliance. He came on for 25 minutes, clicked with Arshavin and Eduardo immediately, showed a blink of brilliance in his free kick, scored another from a breakaway, and got back to the bench. He turned the whole game around with his presence, it just seems like the chemistry multiplied by 5 when he came in.

I'm really rooting for you in the EPL, you play the most entertaining football in the league, and for once, it seems to be working. Hopefully, if you can avoid major injuries, you'll take the title for a change.

What a player! I saw the 2nd half too. Fabregas is ******* brilliant!

http://i.media.goal.com/g/64358.jpg

Come home for christmas.

:(

What a player! I saw the 2nd half too. Fabregas is ******* brilliant!

I hope Arsenal wins the title this year.

Watched the second half against Villa, and once again, you didn't disappoint.

I love watching you guys play, due to your beautiful style, mainly brought by Cesc's brilliance. He came on for 25 minutes, clicked with Arshavin and Eduardo immediately, showed a blink of brilliance in his free kick, scored another from a breakaway, and got back to the bench. He turned the whole game around with his presence, it just seems like the chemistry multiplied by 5 when he came in.

I'm really rooting for you in the EPL, you play the most entertaining football in the league, and for once, it seems to be working. Hopefully, if you can avoid major injuries, you'll take the title for a change.

Sadly, we've had one. We'd be top if we had van Persie.

I hope Arsenal wins the title this year.

If they don't win the title it's a better posibility for Cesc to come in bacelona ;)

If they don't win the title it's a better posibility for Cesc to come in bacelona ;)

With as much young great talent they have, I actually thought they would replicate 'the Invincibles'. They need to bring in Igor Aiknfeev. He is a promising young keeper that can fit right in the Arsenal system.

Sadly, we've had one. We'd be top if we had van Persie.

That's very true, Van Persie is over Eduardo and that's a fact.When he will be back, btw?

Out for most of the season. He could come back around April.

We certainly look to be back in the title race now. I've gotta say I thought we were pretty much done with our title race after our loss to Chelsea, but the squad has done a pretty remarkable job since then. Diaby has been fantastic at times and Ramsey is starting to develop nicely.
If you look at our fixture list we play something like Villa, United, Chelsea, and Liverpool consecutively in the league around early February. Obviously if we can come out of that stretch with a few wins we may be in a very nice position come later in the season when it really matters.

Great comeback win for the Gunners!

Another come back, current Arsenal form is scary.

Ok,I'll now post a pretty big reply coz im a big fan of arsenal too...so,Arsenal plays beautiful soccer and he is full of young talented players,but the main problem in this season were injuries,now,when we are quite full we can go for all trophies(Y) As you know,Eduardo was a really great striker before his injury...that bad injury maybe reflected a little bit his future health position,but he isn't worse now,in fact, with several games in series he will become better than before!The problem is that Wenger doesn't trust him now,and Eduardo thinks that the only way to get back the form is to play games.He prooved that in last two games;he started in first team and scored..Eduardo can be a great striker,greater than Raul and Drgoba,but he needs a chance,he needs a challenge !Do you remember games before celtic when Van Persie was healthy and Eduardo was a pure striker along with him.Than Dudu scored almost every match,and he was on a good way to go back to the form he had before.He started sitting on the bench right after the match against Celtic,ok so he maybe act a little bit on that penalty coz obviously there was a contact, but everyone made a big mess with it and Eduardo lost his confidence than...How many times you saw Rooney and Gerrard dived but nobody even talked about it...shame on that people who made such a big mess about it,coz Dudu didn't really get 90 minutes after it...I say that he will get back his confidence after a 5-6 games in series....For example he scored 2 goals and made 2 assists in 4 last games.Guess why?Because he started in first team! :bouncy:

I have mixed feelings about today's game, on one hand our passing was poor, we failed to control the game, Diaby save for the equalizer just about un-did all the improvement he has been making, and our defense was like...you know :(. The positives though were the 'character' we showed equalizing twice and holding out Everton despite being w/o Cesc, RVP, Clichy, Song and Bendtner is a pretty good result...3pts away from the top we can still make this our season.

P.S. Notice I have said nothing about Almunia :mad:.

Arsenal - Everton 2-2
http://videos.sapo.pt/R53TbdcFGCabOa96My4J

One of the strangest games I've ever seen. In the end a point is much better than nothing. I don't blame Traore if he has a severe confidence problem after a performance like that, it was preettty shocking.

Campbell to sign for Arsenal again. :icon_spin:

Viera and now Campbell, dinosaurs are back.

Viera and now Campbell, dinosaurs are back.

Lol, but maybe its good for Arsenal to have more experienced players in the team and i read that Sol was good with youngsters in dressing rooms :D

at least he can tell some real sex stories to those virgin kids.

at least he can tell some real sex stories to those virgin kids.

yup lol, where do you get these ideas? :D

hahaha. man, You support both Aresnal and Man City. are you thelordofspan cousin?

and you support united,juventus,barcelona, ronaldinho and beckham.

you missed Benfica pal.

yeah you're right. But I support one team per league, one black player and one blonde player.

got it?

I should work for UN.

http://loudounlady.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/pot-kettle-black.jpg

hahaha, I heard that from my persian friends so many times.

actually, they mention two pots.

hahaha. man, You support both Aresnal and Man City. are you thelordofspan cousin?

No I'm not, I just like Man City because my favourite player left from arsenal to man city.

^
Tell me it was King Kolo :(.
Sol Campbell eh? A 'wtf' signing if there ever was one. I'm not complaining though, so long as we win the double again like the last time he joined us, or he scores in the UCL final again...and we win this time...then it's all good.
Anyhoo Sant Cesc is baack for the Bolton game, and Clichy could return also.

^
Tell me it was King Kolo :(.
Sol Campbell eh? A 'wtf' signing if there ever was one. I'm not complaining though, so long as we win the double again like the last time he joined us, or he scores in the UCL final again...and we win this time...then it's all good.
Anyhoo Sant Cesc is baack for the Bolton game, and Clichy could return also.

Kolo and Ade both are my favs, kolo a bit more. :)

i want a miracle robin van persie back.he is very unlucky my favourite player.whenever he hits top form he gets severely injured.but last season he was every where.cesc-rvp-arshavin arsenal champion.:D

i want a miracle robin van persie back.he is very unlucky my favourite player.whenever he hits top form he gets severely injured.but last season he was every where.cesc-rvp-arshavin arsenal champion.:D

liverpool fans please make big posters that say "RAFA PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON US AND RETIRE". guys dont mind on this the CHamp.league was won by gerrard and co. not rafaa.last season i thought he is becoming mentally stable now.STEVI G is my favourite player and rafa is spoiling his career.last season gerrard played well in that role because it was a surprise the new system for evryone.he misses xabi on the pitch.benitezes crush on gareth barry cost him xabi alonso and yet he couldnt get him.for the last five years he has been doing crazy stuff this man.just see how many players were signed most of them i dont know.i dont know if youl agree but he has killed many players career because i think babel is and pennant was very talented.kuyt is a good tournament player.i never heard of steven gerrard praising rafa from his heart.man management is very important but rafa only works for himself no one else.he is jelous of sir alex and wants to be as powerful as him.but he doesnt give dyamn.guys just imagine in five years u could buy atleast five classy players.that are first team regulars.benayoun is a good player but what he did at reading shows hes not yet world class.glen johnson trust me is a gamble.but back up????philip degen i have never seen him.think guys think rafa should go so should the americans.im a man u fan but i just love the spirit u guys have.i respect you and wish u luck.

Right.

Right.

hahahahaaha nice actually both of them but rvp more