yeah and lyon should've been 3-0 in the first leg, and 1-3 in the second half.

probably should've been more than 3-0 in the first leg, we had a shocker and lyon the oppisite. Is it true madrid hasn't beaten lyon yet in champions league?

that said, if stuttgart knew how to finish well (same problem as us), the first leg of yours could've been 2-0 or 3-0 at half-time.

probably should've been more than 3-0 in the first leg, we had a shocker and lyon the oppisite. Is it true madrid hasn't beaten lyon yet in champions league?


That's true. They always beat you in STade Gerland and draw in Bernabeu.

http://www.marca.com/2010/03/09/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1268146558.html

ouch (H)

For those non-Spanish speakers:

Cicinho:

"Leaving Madrid and going to Roma was like a liberation. I was a prisoner in Madrid... The atmosphere in Real Madrid was terrible, mainly because of the small group of Spanish players..."

"Raul has privileges at the club. The big problem is that the press knows about everything that happens in the locker room... It is the Raúl Madrid, but thankfully I'm no longer part of it..."

"At Real Madrid there is a tendency to treat foreigners badly. Look how they treat Kaka, he is questioned while being the best in the world..."

For those non-Spanish speakers:

Cicinho:

"Leaving Madrid and going to Roma was like a liberation. I was a prisoner in Madrid... The atmosphere in Real Madrid was terrible, mainly because of the small group of Spanish players..."

"Raul has privileges at the club. The big problem is that the press knows about everything that happens in the locker room... It is the Raúl Madrid, but thankfully I'm no longer part of it..."

"At Real Madrid there is a tendency to treat foreigners badly. Look how they treat Kaka, he is questioned while being the best in the world..."

I never heard anything like this about Raul. I think he's a decent guy. It's natural for players like Raul, Del Piero, Totti, Giggs and ... to have some power in the locker room or the Press. He's a sub this year, I never heard he complains, he continues his work.

About Kaka, he plays really poor at the moment.

hahahhaha

I heard a nice 'joke' about Madrid today:

- With 250 Million Euros, Madrid could have 'bought' every single game in Champions League and 'win' it. (H) I guess there is a total of 13 games, so 19.2 Million Euros per game.

I never heard anything like this about Raul

I'm surprised you haven't heard that. It's a long running rumor. A lot of people claim that's the reason Madrid last teams don't gel.

I never heard anything like this about Raul. I think he's a decent guy. It's natural for players like Raul, Del Piero, Totti, Giggs and ... to have some power in the locker room or the Press. He's a sub this year, I never heard he complains, he continues his work.

About Kaka, he plays really poor at the moment.

Raúl made moving to the likes of Anelka, Owen and Ronaldo (cow one), why do you think Aragonés doesn't call him for the national team??

For those non-Spanish speakers:

Cicinho:

"Leaving Madrid and going to Roma was like a liberation. I was a prisoner in Madrid... The atmosphere in Real Madrid was terrible, mainly because of the small group of Spanish players..."

"Raul has privileges at the club. The big problem is that the press knows about everything that happens in the locker room... It is the Raúl Madrid, but thankfully I'm no longer part of it..."

"At Real Madrid there is a tendency to treat foreigners badly. Look how they treat Kaka, he is questioned while being the best in the world..."

He must be exaggerating a bit there. The likes of Zidane and Roberto Carlos seem to have an affection for the club despite not being Spanish. If they were treated poorly then I doubt they would feel that way about the club.

Maybe he meant foreigners who aren't stars.

Foreigners who can take the place of his mates, for example Anelka/Morientes. Cicinho/Salgado. And isn't new in madrid, Luis enrique left madrid and join barça because was tired of the corporatism group of Hierro & C.o.

That Raul thing isn't anything new, it dates back to the first Galactico era, and even Guti is in the same group. There is a reason lots of Madrid fans applauded Pellegrini when he stop putting Raul on the starting lineup despite what most of the media would say. And even then, you would here more debates about how he should be starting rather than sitting down and letting the new players play, on the radio. They treat him as if he himself was Madrid, and I don't blame them, since he as done for the club.. But like all stars, he reached his peak years ago and should have known when to step aside... too bad He still doesn't realize it, along with those above him, Marca and AS included.

1) Vicente del Bosque November 1999 - 23 June 2003
2) Carlos Queiroz 25 June 2003 - 31 May 2004
3) José Antonio Camacho 1 June 2004 - 1 July 2004
4) Mariano García Remón 1 July 2004 - 30 December 2004
5) Vanderlei Luxemburgo 30 December 2004 - 3 December 2005
6) Juan Ramón López Caro 3 December 2005 - 5 July 2006
7) Fabio Capello 5 July 2006 -28 June 2007
8) Bernd Schuster 9 July 2007 - 9 December 2008
9) Juande Ramos 9 December 2008 - 30 June 2009
10) Manuel Pellegrini 1 July 2009 Present

10 coaches in 7 years, identity crisis, cool.

Barca had 2 in that Period, United, Arsenal, Milan, Inter and Liverpool had one or two as well.

10 coaches shows a very weak and unreliable management.

4 days ago Higüaín were as good or better than Wayne Rooney and after Lyon pwnage he isn't good enough for real madrid. Schizophrenic team.

to be honest, he was their best signing (in terms of quality/price).

Ending talented players careers is another especial ability of Real management.

That Raul thing isn't anything new, it dates back to the first Galactico era, and even Guti is in the same group. There is a reason lots of Madrid fans applauded Pellegrini when he stop putting Raul on the starting lineup despite what most of the media would say. And even then, you would here more debates about how he should be starting rather than sitting down and letting the new players play, on the radio. They treat him as if he himself was Madrid, and I don't blame them, since he as done for the club.. But like all stars, he reached his peak years ago and should have known when to step aside... too bad He still doesn't realize it, along with those above him, Marca and AS included.

1 thing I don't get. Madrid are known for ditching players when they under-perform or are average players regardless of their age. How come Guti and Raul are still in the team? I mean instead of ditching young promising players, why don't they ditch these 2 useless players? After Del Bosque, 9 managers came to Madrid and these 2 are still here.

And the stupidest thing Madrid did was fire Del Bosque. Thats ridiculous. This man created history and you fire hiim for no apparent reason. Del Bosque was the only one who could deal with the "galacticos".

This man created history and you fire hiim for no apparent reason.


The reason is clear and already explained, he think himself so Florentino fire him. When Camacho notice how it works with that dude in real madrid resigned in the week 3.

Higuian is a class player and worth every cent, and much more.. And those that are already talking about how he's not good enough (and I know there are lots of madrid fans in there) can just go F**K themselves. I guarantee you these are the same morons that would still have Raul in the starting lineup if they had a say on it.

I guarantee you these are the same morons that would still have Raul in the starting lineup if they had a say on it.

That's the impression we get over here, but I've known all along about how raul runs the dressing, read a article about luiz like 5 years ago and he called him a twat. With the limited real madrid matchplay we see over here, particularly the champions league games, he always looks like he is trying hard, and appears to be useful, but when you see la liga etc he couldn't care less.

I'm not surpised he wasn't booked for that childish scene with cris at the end of the lyon match.

He has to go at the end of this season, or take a pay and ego cut.:coffe-anim:

Ending talented players careers is another especial ability of Real management.

It sure is, I could think atleast 15 players off the top of my head whose career has either been destroyed or stunted growth.

Higuian is a class player and worth every cent, and much more.. And those that are already talking about how he's not good enough (and I know there are lots of madrid fans in there) can just go F**K themselves. I guarantee you these are the same morons that would still have Raul in the starting lineup if they had a say on it.

I seriously believe Higuain is your best/most important player. Not Ronaldo, not Kaka, not Benzema - Higuain. Okay, maybe he's not as skilled as Ronaldo, but he's a hell of a goalscorer, and he has the mental ability to win the close matches.

Maybe he meant foreigners who aren't stars.

I thought that, but then Cicinho mentioned Kaka, who surely has to be considered a star.

Foreigners who can take the place of his mates, for example Anelka/Morientes. Cicinho/Salgado. And isn't new in madrid, Luis enrique left madrid and join barça because was tired of the corporatism group of Hierro & C.o.

Makes more sense.

Higuian is a class player and worth every cent, and much more.. And those that are already talking about how he's not good enough (and I know there are lots of madrid fans in there) can just go F**K themselves. I guarantee you these are the same morons that would still have Raul in the starting lineup if they had a say on it.

Higuain looks quality from what I've seen of him, pretty clever purchase from Real I have to say. According to wiki (not the most reliable source I admit) he has 16 goals in 19 games in La Liga, very impressive.

I think the stats kp posted tell the story really, you don't get anywhere by constantly swapping managers (unless the manager is completely hopeless).

and to add to that statement, You also cannot get anywhere when two players have such big influence on the board room, with the media and small minded fans backing them up...

I can't wait to see Higuain in Marca's cover page tomorrow. (H)

The guy scored another hat trick and is still under fire, screw Marca. Do they really support Real, "Better to have a wise enemy than a foolish friend".

They support Raul and Guti..

I wish I could get these three goals by Higuian and just show it to every madrid "fan" that doesn't like him... Then tell to go F**K themselves. However; If he were to do it, it would be even better.

marca will probably have CR9 on the cover with another "bota de oro" and mention higuain in the small print on the corner of the page. Did he pass villa today in the pichichi list?

BTW what do you think is gonna happen with Benzema? Seems Pellegrini has totally given up on him

Did he pass villa today in the pichichi list?yes

BTW what do you think is gonna happen with Benzema? Seems Pellegrini has totally given up on himwell, I personally don't expect Pellegrini to be retained for next season, so I don't think Coco Benzema will worry about it too much ...

regardless, Benzema is young, and he has shown his talent on the top stage; he will be given time to adjust to a bigger team, full of bigger stars, in a bigger league ...

He had been playing well right before he got injured. I still believe he is in Pellegrinis plan, once he comes back I would expect him to be back on the starting line up.

In detriment of whom?...who are you gonna sit to bring Benz in?...Certainly not Pipa or CR9 and we know the whole deal with Kaka, (who should actually be benching in detriment of VdV who has had a great season)

Anyway I am sooooo glad El Pipa shut the Mvtherfing vermins up! and by that I mean MARCA and all their cronnies....He should have worn a shirt underneath that said "FVCK YOU INDA" and show it after every goal...LOL...I love that guy man he's a fighter

Kaka didn't play last night. Pellegrini dropped him or he was injured, or suspended?

Edit: btw, do you guys think that Higuain plays like the young Bobo Vieri?

Come and renew higuain fast or he will become Makélélé V2.

Yeah Makelele was a huge mistake.....Higuain could be the next Florentinazo...firing Pellegrini will be the next dumb move that fvcker makes...


btw Kaka was supposedly injured, although I am thinking it was like Guti's injury after the Alcorcon game...Kaka made bad gestures when he got subbed against Lyon...sooo that could be why

so he was injured.:innocent_smile_1:

Now that Navas rumours end with Sevilla defeat in bernabeu, we have another one, kun Agüero... and oh! "el derby mesetero" is coming soon, what a coincidence! (H).

http://estaticos01.marca.com/imagenes/2010/03/17/g1703.jpg

You know what that means, RM is just going to lose again! xD

Now that Navas rumours end with Sevilla defeat in bernabeu, we have another one, kun Agüero... and oh! "el derby mesetero" is coming soon, what a coincidence! (H).

http://estaticos01.marca.com/imagenes/2010/03/17/g1703.jpg

Could someone kindly please translate that excerpt about de la red? My spanish isn't that good.

I hope Perez doesn't fire Pellegrini, we need some consistency in the dugout, and the team can only improve the more they play together?

it's to do with the welfare system not being able sustain complete coverage of De La Red's incapacitating injury, and that RM should fit the rest as per his contract.

I wonder how nasty Marca and Real management can be, that's disgusting!!!!

??? what are you referring to??

These transfer mind games, Navas and now Aguero!!!!

The current team has the potential to defeat Athletico, so why dirty mind games?

shame i didn't found this pic last week
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9222/kakacr9benzemarf20125.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/kakacr9benzemarf20125.jpg/)
(H)

what do you think is good with Raul on the bench?

Now that Navas rumours end with Sevilla defeat in bernabeu, we have another one, kun Agüero... and oh! "el derby mesetero" is coming soon, what a coincidence! (H).

http://estaticos01.marca.com/imagenes/2010/03/17/g1703.jpg
I saw that too. And Aguero has been mentioned in all of the covers since.

Marca process of destabilization:
Step 1 - Declare that Madrid are after Player X without any direct quotes from management
Step 2 - Find a Real Madrid player who will say "I'd love to play with Player X!"
Step 3 - Quote Player X as saying, "It's an honor to be considered by Madrid"
Step 4 - Move on to Player Y once Player X becomes irrelevant.
Step 5 - Repeat steps 1 through 4

Should we take bets on who they will mention before el Classico??? I pick Messi for 150mil Euros, or something in that insane amount...

Nah they are gonna show the "cagometro" to the world again.

They showed Iniesta last year, didn't they?

I'd go with Ibra this time around. Seems like the player they could achieve the greatest effects on.

They showed Iniesta last year, didn't they?

I'd go with Ibra this time around. Seems like the player they could achieve the greatest effects on.
No, they're too busy trying to market him as a failure signing.

Exactly. They could say he's demoralised and would prefer to play at Madrid. It's become 'news' that he wants to leave or that Barca want to offload him, Marca don't have to fabricate an entirely new story every time.

Arnau, all SG users know about these Real-Marca tricks, I wonder how about spanish people? They believe all of these ****s?

Arnau, all SG users know about these Real-Marca tricks, I wonder how about spanish people? They believe all of these ****s?
Judging by the comments on the online articles, yes, at least in the capitol. But elsewhere in the country there are many like us who shake our heads in disbelief when this stuff is published.

Villarato:

MMitGRLrx5Q

Judging by the comments on the online articles, yes, at least in the capitol. But elsewhere in the country there are many like us who shake our heads in disbelief when this stuff is published.

Naah, all madridistas belive in Villarato.

Villarato:

MMitGRLrx5Q

Not that I condoned what he did, but a Barca fan posting a video of a goal being made after a handball?... Go figure!

Not that I condoned what he did, but a Barca fan posting a video of a goal being made after a handball?... Go figure!

I hope you're not talking about something that happened more than 3 years ago and that has happened only twice in history. :D


This is about the present. About the campaign you madridistas are doing against Barça, as Barça is the one helped by referees and not you. :)


and btw, I heard that there was a clear penalty on Diego Castro that wasn't whistled too. Not that I care that much about this, since this isn't something new, but since there is a campaign called Villarato going on, I just decided to post that video here and maybe reactivate this thread lol.

Watched the match, it wasn't a penalty on Castro, he just lost his balance.

Gotta love how fast Van Der Vaart fled the penalty box

Naah, all madridistas belive in Villarato.
That's pretty much what I said...

Yes, sorry, i dont know what the hell i read/understand before.

And best thing VdV has done sinze he joined madrid, its bring his wife to spain.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs385.snc3/23545_1255663680459_1495602048_30634286_2207980_n. jpg

(H)

btw, tonight and tomorrow you can watch some Champions! :D

One step closer to celebrating the final in your building :innocent_smile_1:

Jesus you barca fans don't half hound the madrid lot. Some time in the not too distant future it will be Madrid winning things again with you in 2nd place. These guys are going to give you a right mouthful after all these comments.

I'm sure you post in here more then the Madrid fans and just to provoke a response. Grow up. I know your young but that excuse can only be used so many times. God knows what your going to be like after 2morrows game.

Haha, this is a joke compared to some TV and Radio shows with +40 years old periodist and fans, you would never understant the rivality btw barça and madrid, even barça and madrid fans from here doesn't.

Haha, this is a joke compared to some TV and Radio shows with +40 years old periodist and fans, you would never understant the rivality btw barça and madrid, even barça and madrid fans from here doesn't.knowing what the rivalry is, and what it is based on, is one thing; condoning it is another ...

Here we are joking about the rival team every single day.

Ronaldo for the victory goal tonight.

That was it.

I hope you enjoyed the first place for those 5-6 weeks you stayed there.

Now, go and find some other 250M Euros somewhere and maybe next time you can get a draw. ;)


Ronaldo for the victory goal tonight.

Did he really play?

I was really surprised that a 94M Euros guy missed such an important game like this one.

Another humiliation in Bernabeu. It was the score but seeing those guys leaving the stadium so early like they did in 05 and 09 (0-3 and 2-6) was very humiliating for a team who spent 250 m for "best" players in the world.

You have to wait another year. Until then there are 4 consecutive wins for us in El Clasico and just wait for the UCL final in Bernabeu. I hope Barça is going to play and that represents the end of your football and financial disaster!

Visca el Barça!

That was it.

I hope you enjoyed the first place for those 5-6 weeks you stayed there.

Now, go and find some other 250M Euros somewhere and maybe next time you can get a draw. ;)




Did he really play?

I was really surprised that a 94M Euros guy missed such an important game like this one.

If it was only him that would be a problem. 1st season in Spain, im glad with his perfomances. I didnt believe that Real would win this game, that "Ronaldo for the victory goal" was just to tease you guys. But among that team, Ronaldo has been the one who tries to bring things up. He can be watever he is out of the field, but in, he's an amazing athlete. Hope to see the real him in the next seasons. BUT first of all, i hope a change of mind between the ones who rule Real Madrid. I dont forget this times and i think he wont too:

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Ronaldo always (or use to) disapear in the big matches.

And there the Real Madrid / CR9 bashing starts (H)

Ronaldo always (or use to) disapear in the big matches.

He didn't really "disappear". I thought he was the most dangerous man for Real today. He dribbled and put in a lot of crosses from the left flank. I actually saw more of him than Messi today. Messi got better opportunities though and went more close to scoring. There again, Messi played as forward whereas Ronaldo as winger.

Messi decides in the big matches and ronaldo against Xerez. 8 clásicos 7 goals 22 years. He's the most decisive player on the earth, always score in the finals and in the tough matches. Ronaldo play as SS in madrid.

Here we are joking about the rival team every single day.

Yeah a bit of joking is fine by me, it's not like you're personally attacking anyone. Everyone should be allowed to express their mind in a civil manner, even if they should post in their own thread.

Congratulations to Barca for being the better side on the night, but you haven't won the title for this season yet.

He didn't really "disappear". I thought he was the most dangerous man for Real today. He dribbled and put in a lot of crosses from the left flank. I actually saw more of him than Messi today. Messi got better opportunities though and went more close to scoring. There again, Messi played as forward whereas Ronaldo as winger.

Messi came very much in the midfield yesterday to help in the construction. He used to change his position with Pedro.

I use to watch Big4 matches in EPL because I really love the atmosphere. I can't remember a Big4 match decided by Ronaldo for Manchester. I don't know if he ever scored a double against a Big4 team in EPL. His best big match so far was the on against Arsenal in Emirates when he scored a double. He disappeared against us in both legs in 07-08 and was invisible after 10 minutes in Rome.

In 5 matches against Barcelona, Ronaldo didn't score any goal missed a lot of chances like the one in Camp Nou and he also missed a penalty. Big match player huh?! :)

Pique owned Ronaldo last night.

Ronaldo is a very talented player, but I think his attitude inhibits his performance on the very biggest stage. It's something we saw at United time and again. Ronaldo sometimes plays at the expense of his team-mates, which is fine when it works. Barca had a plan for him, Ronaldo gets frustrated and begins to unravel (throwing himself on the floor etc) he gets more desperate to do the fancy stuff and sometimes forgoes the easier choice.

I saw parallels with his final game for us last night. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have him in my team than not - but this is a drawback with him sometimes.

Also I think you have to hold your hands up and say that Barcelona are the best football team on the planet right now.

Pedro its more decisive than Cristiano, always appear in the big matches with goals.

You're exaggerating. Ronaldo was good when Madrid were attacking, although his inaiblity to get past Pique on most tries (most, not all), did him no favours. But he was defnitely there when Madrid was there, and he was gone when they lost their pace and drive. I don't think faulting him in particular is novel or insightful at all. Marca dedicated a few pages to him failing today, but honestly, it's not his fault. Him not living up to his price tag in this match also isn't his fault, he didn't ask Perez to make him the most expensive player in the world.

Madrid lost, no Ronaldo. Barcelona won, not Messi. Messi scored, but he wasn't spectacular as you're making him out to be. I think Pedro had a better match, although, it's understandable since Messi was being marked more. Good match, not great. Bad match, not terrible for Ronaldo.

Messi decides in the big matches and ronaldo against Xerez. 8 clásicos 7 goals 22 years. He's the most decisive player on the earth, always score in the finals and in the tough matches. Ronaldo play as SS in madrid.

I never said that Ronaldo decides the big games and Messi don't. I never questioned Messi's ability to decide games.

What I wanted to say is that I saw Ronaldo having more of the ball than Messi yesterday, but Messi scored. Not scoring doesn't mean he "disappeared". he was the most potent Madrid player for Madrid yesterday. Thanks god you guys have a very organised defence. Your team is PERFECT in ALL departments :(

Congratulations to Barca for being the better side on the night, but you haven't won the title for this season yet.

Dude the title was already decided before El Clasico. I can almost guarantee that Real Madrid defence will have a "confidence meltdown" for the remaining games. They certainly did after that match. Just watch the replay and Albiol's face after Messi scored the first goal and after Pedrito scored the second.

Dude the title was already decided before El Clasico. I can almost guarantee that Real Madrid defence will have a "confidence meltdown" for the remaining games. They certainly did after that match. Just watch the replay and Albiol's face after Messi scored the first goal and after Pedrito scored the second.

We didn't win the title. Hope Pep know how to teach the players to not be like you guys. We took a huuuge step to the title. It may be decisive but we haven't already won the title.

We didn't win the title. Hope Pep know how to teach the players to not be like you guys. We took a huuuge step to the title. It may be decisive but we haven't already won the title.

(Y)

At least one Barca fan who isn't taking things for granted already. There are 7 games to be played and 3 points between them. Still a title race for me. I wished Valencia was there as well: my favourite team in Spain.

We didn't win the title. Hope Pep know how to teach the players to not be like you guys. We took a huuuge step to the title. It may be decisive but we haven't already won the title.

Don't hope :D. He will do that and he already took the first step doing that; he reminded the guys on the post-match interview that "this is a small but important step forward". Also, if you read player's reactions, you see that all of them are aware that the race for the title hasn't ended yet. But now, everyone knows that we are the big favorites.

(Y)

At least one Barca fan who isn't taking things for granted already. There are 7 games to be played and 3 points between them. Still a title race for me. I wished Valencia was there as well: my favourite team in Spain.


No. I haven't seen any of us, at least here, that has said 'congratulations for the title' or stuffs like that. Personally, I have said that prior to the match as well. There are 7 more games; very tough ones for the both teams. But now, moral is very high in our camp, while Madrid has taken a big blow and having in mind what happened last season, they'll most probably drop points in the coming matches.

Don't hope :D. He will do that and he already took the first step doing that; he reminded the guys on the post-match interview that "this is a small but important step forward". Also, if you read player's reactions, you see that all of them are aware that the race for the title hasn't ended yet. But now, everyone knows that we are the big favorites.




No. I haven't seen any of us, at least here, that has said 'congratulations for the title' or stuffs like that. Personally, I have said that prior to the match as well. There are 7 more games; very tough ones for the both teams. But now, moral is very high in our camp, while Madrid has taken a big blow and having in mind what happened last season, they'll most probably drop points in the coming matches.

You're not saying you won the league but from some previous posts, I have the feeling that you are claiming it already indirectly (not only you). Anyway I think that probably due to bad choice of words. No worries. I got what you guys meant.

You're not saying you won the league but from some previous posts, I have the feeling that you are claiming it already indirectly (not only you). Anyway I think that probably due to bad choice of words. No worries. I got what you guys meant.

Well in one way, I have believed since the first day of the season that we gonna win it. :)

Dude the title was already decided before El Clasico. I can almost guarantee that Real Madrid defence will have a "confidence meltdown" for the remaining games. They certainly did after that match. Just watch the replay and Albiol's face after Messi scored the first goal and after Pedrito scored the second.

If you believe that albiol is weak minded and will not be determined in the next games then you are wrong. He's a professional player. Sure he would've been devastated to lose to the biggest rival for the title, but it don't mean that he'll be completely useless. Sure we might concede some goals, but I can guaratee we'll win atleast 5 of our remaining games.

4-0 can mean a lot to Real fans.

Liverpool 4-0 Real
Alcorcon 4-0 Real
Guardiola 4-0 Real
2-6 = 0-4
Ronaldo,Kaka,Benzema,Alonso=0
kp4-0

Kaka is back :D.

Glad to see the lad back and scoring too.

Good for Kaka !!! :33vff3o: We need him in the final streak of La Liga and they are saying that maybe Van der Vaart is finish for the season.

But the second spot is already secured, Valencia are too far away!!!!

SG was a better place when you weren't around. Why did you come back.

shame kp's still alive.

lol yeah it is :D Was just kidding anyways.

http://www.marca.com/2010/04/28/futbol/equipos/barcelona/1272490455.html

Congratulations for the tittle.

hahahhahahahhaha (H)(H)

Oh my God, oh my God. Aren't they hilarious? (H)

Since you can't celebrate your success, you celebrate someone's else failure. (H)

Poor Madrid, poor Spain!

http://www.marca.com/2010/04/28/futbol/equipos/barcelona/1272490455.html

Congratulations for the tittle.

Haha... Even I have to laugh at that one





wish I was there though :blush:

Alright Madristas it's ON!!!

:skip_e:

250m Euros later, and still one point behind. Such a shame...:innocent_smile_1:

BTW,

Seriously its gonna go down to the wire and I predict its gonna be a exciting end to a great competition. Hopefully we are crowned champions:bob:

But hey atleast you beat our record points from last year:blush:

Robben and Snejder back to the Bernabeu. Perez should be very proud (H)

Honestly, I would pay to see his reaction, and those involved in their sale, after hearing that both of them are in the final with a possibility of one of them winning it. Not to mention the fact that they have both been essential to each teams success in getting there.

I don't blame Madrid for selling Robben. He was kind of an odd piece to fit into Madrid's puzzle and they always seemed to play better without him. Sneijder was a stupid move though, at least with the way Kaka has performed.

Robben was a bad sale for me, no matter how you slice it....Sneijder has been good with Inter but IMO Robben has been out of this world....and during our pre-season he was showing his worth by the buckets....

well, it was a difficult one to have foreseen ... if you had kept him, you guys could easily have been playing a 4-2-3-1 with Robben and Cristiano causing havoc from each flank, and swapping sides just to throw more cats amongst the pigeons ... but Robben is very injury-prone, and it is always more of a gamble keeping him than selling him ... Bayern took the gamble because they needed to more than you guys -- you clearly had enough cash to cover whatever positions you needed to ... but as it turned out, Ricky Kaká's season was destroyed by his injury, Cristiano missed a few games in the early part of the season with injury, Benz has had his share of injury problems too, while Robben's injury situation has been minor ... that is luck / fate / providence / whatever you want to call it ...

also, there is the psychological aspect ... at Bayern, he is one of the biggest stars in the squad, unlikely to be overshadowed, under a Dutch manager who he could be comfortable speaking his own language with, in a country closer to home ... and in addition to that, he had a point to prove after taking a step away from the big-time of Real Madrid, which can be a huge motivating factor for those who embrace in a constructive spirit ... all those things would have been missing if he had stayed ...

similar story with Sneijder about motivation ... it was a real slap in the face to Sneijder for Real Madrid to get a Golden-Ball-winning attacking midfielder, and deem Sneijder surplus; he too had a point to prove ...

as a fan of the Dutch national team, I am very pleased about it, and hope they can carry that impetus into the World Cup ... but if I were looking at it from a Real Madrid fan's point of view, I'd be patient, and wait to see what your new recuits can do when fully fit, and see if Robben and Sneijder can keep up their level of motivation next season too ... unfortunately you guys have a very fickle president in charge, and I don't think he knows much about patience; so it would be no surprise to see some kneejerk reactions if you guys finish this season trophyless ...

Just because he did well for Bayern doesn't mean he would have done well for Madrid. I think part of his success has been from being the star of the team. That would not have been the case in Madrid.

Just because he did well for Bayern doesn't mean he would have done well for Madrid. I think part of his success has been from being the star of the team. That would not have been the case in Madrid.

Same thing was happening for Henry in Arsenal before coming to barça and also Ibra in Inter. They were the stars of the team. That's why they can't be as good as they were in the previous teams. People rarely understand those facts.

You club is a joke.

Can't beat Osasuna without paying them something, and you still want the title. (H)


I told you, you could have won this La Liga very easy. Distribute those 250 millions to the other 18 teams and here we go. In that way, maybe you could have won something. :D While now, besides 250 million, you still have to pay teams like Osasuna ... lol

Boooo Hoooo! go cry somewhere else....you're such a pest

You club is a joke.

Can't beat Osasuna without paying them something, and you still want the title. (H)


I told you, you could have won this La Liga very easy. Distribute those 250 millions to the other 18 teams and here we go. In that way, maybe you could have won something. :D While now, besides 250 million, you still have to pay teams like Osasuna ... lol
Nice conspiracy theory, pede.

Boooo Hoooo! go cry somewhere else....you're such a pest

lol

I'm the champion baby. I'll be celebrating this weekend! ;)

I can go and cry for your club.


Nice conspiracy theory, pede.

Didn't Camacho (a well known madridista) rest some of his key players?

Then, Osasuna's keeper and his performance in the last 20 minutes! (H)

Then, Masoud! :icon_spin::icon_spin:

etc, etc.

They invested 250 millions and still can't beat a team like Osasuna unless Perez opens his wallet (actually, maybe he didn't have to since Camacho was there, but ...). lol (H)

Osasuna is underrated, they are not easy to beat, it was also dificult for us in camp nou, or don't you remember? anyway, when Masoud enter to the pitch i told to my father, "Camacho make this change to gift he match". **** Masoud, what a miss haha.

Didn't Camacho (a well known madridista) rest some of his key players?

Then, Osasuna's keeper and his performance in the last 20 minutes! (H)

Then, Masoud! :icon_spin::icon_spin:

etc, etc.

They invested 250 millions and still can't beat a team like Osasuna unless Perez opens his wallet (actually, maybe he didn't have to since Camacho was there, but ...). lol (H)
You honestly think that Osasuna was paid off? :clapwap: They're four points from relegation, they're not throwing anything away.

Well, I'm not expecting other teams to stop Madrid (maybe Mallorca can do something), but I mean Osasuna's performance was pathetic tonight. You can see how their defense reacts. You can see how Ricardo saves his goal lol.

Anyhow, it's on our hands, and we don't depend on Madrid. So ...

You honestly think that Osasuna was paid off? :clapwap: They're four points from relegation, they're not throwing anything away.

They are not in such a bad position. They need 5 more points (out of 9) to remain in La Liga for another season, right? Maybe Perez will pay for those matches as well ... haha :D

WTF are you talking about? Osasuna played a great match today. Madrid were lucky to face Masoud.

WTF are you talking about? Osasuna played a great match today. Madrid were lucky to face Masoud.

I'm not talking only about Masoud. Look at Ricardo's performance in the last 20 mins. He looks like he doesn't care for the crosses that come on his zone. Look at his reaction on the third goal. He's like: Ok guys, do it, score ...

Idiotic stuff as usual from you Buty...thats like me saying Diego Lopez was paid off cause you wont 4-1....just riducolous.

Arnau was right we were lucky to escape with the points where it not for Massoud's sorry ass, we would be talking a different tune....anyway glad to have CR9 in my team, I take him any day!

Are you nervous about barca losing the league bybuti??

I'm not seeing Barça drawing a match, i was worried with el madrigal one and we made an awesome performance. Would be paradoxical if we lost the league, we won both classicos and madrid don't even score us a goal.

I dont see it either, unless something really crazy happens, Barca will win the League....if we end up taking it will be like noon robbery to me...because as Arnau pointed out we failed to beat or tie barca, which means we should have been out of the picture a long time ago...credit to Madrid for that

who cares if you didn't beat them, We won the title losing to teams like Liverpool, twice. In fact the year we won in Europe we lost vs some big teams. Its all about consistency.

Playing your best and giving 500% to beat a big team is one thing, but if you cant be consistent across the board...

I kind of agree.. But seeing as how Sevilla are in a roll at El Pizjuan and are battling for fourth... Well one can dream :(

Well, I'm not expecting other teams to stop Madrid (maybe Mallorca can do something), but I mean Osasuna's performance was pathetic tonight. You can see how their defense reacts. You can see how Ricardo saves his goal lol.

Anyhow, it's on our hands, and we don't depend on Madrid. So ...



They are not in such a bad position. They need 5 more points (out of 9) to remain in La Liga for another season, right? Maybe Perez will pay for those matches as well ... haha :D

Wow. You are a moron. Please do us all a favor and jump off a cliff.

What a match! I was jumping up and down the whole game. Especially when Osasuna almost score the third(Y) But I must admit Osasuna gave it their all, same as Madrid. Once again you showed your resilliance which has carried you this far, I think either team deserved the victory, and it was a well worked win for Madrid.

Ricardo I thought did his best, on the third goal he was watching the near post as he should have, he wasn't gonna be sitting far post watching ronaldo for el pipita to take an easy shot at goal. I think your abundance of weapons definately showed there, and it was a good cross and a good finish to win an intense game.

BTW
This week is cruicial, I think the Mallorca game is gonna be a tough one for you, they aren't 4th for no reason, and with a lot f pressure and could very well decide the title. If you loose, I think its over. But if you win, you put inmense pressure at us to not slip up at el Sanchez Pijuan.

What a exciting end to a long and great battle:icon_spin::icon_spin:

The Key for me is that match against Athletic they play us like is the WC final every time they play us the pressure is gonna be on both on you guys and ourselves to perform in those games next weekend...they will decide La Liga...plus the maatches will be played at the same time

The Key for me is that match against Athletic they play us like is the WC final every time they play us the pressure is gonna be on both on you guys and ourselves to perform in those games next weekend...they will decide La Liga...plus the maatches will be played at the same time

True but I don't see you loosing points at home, your home record has been far too impressive, and your players fight to the death there. Thats why I think Mallorca will be a tough game, because it's away and they have been very good at home, and are fighting for champions league.

But honestly, I agree with you the title will be decided this weekend. But I think it will be decided in the game between us and Sevilla. I think you will beat both Mallorca and Athletic.

I see that finally, the RM thread is back running smoothly (Y) Good for the forum. Keep it up!

Are you nervous about barca losing the league bybuti??

I'm happier than ever. If I had some little doubts, it was against Villareal and knowing the situation that the team moral was low, but now, after their reaction, I'm just waiting for this weekend to celebrate. ;)

Ricardo I thought did his best, on the third goal he was watching the near post as he should have, he wasn't gonna be sitting far post watching ronaldo for el pipita to take an easy shot at goal. I think your abundance of weapons definately showed there, and it was a good cross and a good finish to win an intense game.


That's not how you defend when there are only 90 seconds left.

I see that finally, the RM thread is back running smoothly (Y) Good for the forum. Keep it up!

Are you sure about that ? I can still see a dumb-ass around here just posting stupid stuff.

Kudos to all the other Barca fans that are actually capable of holding an adult conversation.

Its all about consistency.

90 and 89 points, talk about consistency. Both teams deserve the tittle.

I'm happier than ever.

How can you be happy with barça out of the final :(.

Are you sure about that ? I can still see a dumb-ass around here just posting stupid stuff.

Kudos to all the other Barca fans that are actually capable of holding an adult conversation.

At least we can see some improvement here... Thats what I meant. At least some talk about football and not stupid bashing.

Yes that is encouraging; Anyway about the Mallorca match....that's gonna be a test, but, I believe one that can be resolved rather quickly if we score first...the Athletic game concerns me because it could turn into a Osasuna type of game...back and forth and lots of chances for both teams and we all know we got lucky with Osasuna, soooooo


Nobody showed up for us last game, except for CR9 and Marcelo....Granero was super ultra poor, he freaking sucks...I was so hopeful with him early on the pre-season, and then he decided he wasnt gonna play with any kind of resolve or skill....

Granero its out.

McxVFkdP24w

Ouch. xD

Nobody showed up for us last game, except for CR9 and Marcelo....Granero was super ultra poor, he freaking sucks...I was so hopeful with him early on the pre-season, and then he decided he wasnt gonna play with any kind of resolve or skill....

Don't be so hard on the lad, it's gotta be hard being the star of the team at Getafe and not playing consistently here. He is probably also pissed that Kaka was never really benched, although el Ingeniero did take him out once and he was pissed.

But I think Granero is a class player, he maybe just has some confidence issue because he has been benched for a while. It would be a waste if his bright career was stopped here, by the first stump, he needs to learn that at a big team he's never gonna be garanteed his place (especially at Florentinos Madrid, unless you are Zidane/Figo/Raul/Etc..).

I hope he waits this out and takes his opportunities well when they come. I've always been a fan of his abilities and style of play.

Granero its out.

McxVFkdP24w

What is said in the video?

Well, I'm not expecting other teams to stop Madrid (maybe Mallorca can do something), but I mean Osasuna's performance was pathetic tonight. You can see how their defense reacts. You can see how Ricardo saves his goal lol.


Wow.What is wrong with you? You obviously think that the whole world revolves around Barcelona for some weird reason. Do you actually believe that Osasuna prioritize Barcelona losing the league over winning their own game?
Get over it man. Whenever Barcelona win a match 3-2, you say something along the lines of "what an awesome comeback! Great goal by Messi! Played like champions! Etc etc.." but when Real Madrid win in a similar fashion, you label them as "undeserved winners, cheaters, they paid the ref, they needed 250 million to win, etc..". Now you unbelievably took it one step further by convincing yourself about the existence of some sort of conspiracy where teams want Real to win the title. Why would teams prioritize Barcelona losing the title to Real Madrid over the money they can potentially earn from winning games and being higher ranked in the league? It doesn't make any f*cking sense.
Try to create intelligent posts without resorting to the biased garbage that you normally post if you want other posters to take you seriously.
Also, if Real Madrid ends up winning the league, it means that they are the best team in Spain despite your team beating them twice in El Classico. The best team in the league is the most consistent one who performs best against the other 19 teams and so far the difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona is a loss for one team and a draw for the other.

I think they are talking about Pelle being out to be honest....because Diarra Uses himself as an example...either way Diarra has done this before...Granero has no room to complain he has been quite poor to be honest, as poor as if not poorer than Kaka has been; and he has gotten chances, he played 6 straight games as a starter and many more as a sub....just doesnt have room to complain...


In another bit of news Benzema has stated he is happy in Madrid and has no desire to move, he just wants more minutes...I wish they would leave Pellegrini alone and let him do his job....freaking scum that Marca is

Marca is and always be a joke of a newspaper.

Also, seeing as how your back in town KingPaulV.. Can you tell me what has happened to Lass?? he was doing so good and all of a sudden he has lost his place in the starting lineup.

I could probably do the research, but I though I'd ask you first. :blush:

What is RM's starting lineup now? Anyone? Where the hell is M. Diarra? Haven't heard of him since ages. Not heard about Gago for a while as well.

What is RM's starting lineup now? Anyone? Where the hell is M. Diarra? Haven't heard of him since ages. Not heard about Gago for a while as well.

M. Diarra had been injured for a while, but has been on the benched and playing as a sub for a few games now. Gago actually played this weekend..... unfortunately. You can have him if you want him though :$

What is RM's starting lineup now? Anyone? Where the hell is M. Diarra? Haven't heard of him since ages. Not heard about Gago for a while as well.


Gago starts now but doesnt do much at all,he is vry slow. Both Diarra/s are out of favour now but both of them play better than Gago. Pellegrini only needs to look at Gago and Granero for his midfield breakdown.

Wow.What is wrong with you? You obviously think that the whole world revolves around Barcelona for some weird reason. Do you actually believe that Osasuna prioritize Barcelona losing the league over winning their own game?
Get over it man. Whenever Barcelona win a match 3-2, you say something along the lines of "what an awesome comeback! Great goal by Messi! Played like champions! Etc etc.." but when Real Madrid win in a similar fashion, you label them as "undeserved winners, cheaters, they paid the ref, they needed 250 million to win, etc..". Now you unbelievably took it one step further by convincing yourself about the existence of some sort of conspiracy where teams want Real to win the title. Why would teams prioritize Barcelona losing the title to Real Madrid over the money they can potentially earn from winning games and being higher ranked in the league? It doesn't make any f*cking sense.
Try to create intelligent posts without resorting to the biased garbage that you normally post if you want other posters to take you seriously.
Also, if Real Madrid ends up winning the league, it means that they are the best team in Spain despite your team beating them twice in El Classico. The best team in the league is the most consistent one who performs best against the other 19 teams and so far the difference between Real Madrid and Barcelona is a loss for one team and a draw for the other.

You probably don't follow La liga as much as I do, so ...

I didn't say they paid the referee. It may happen, but I don't care for referees that much unless they make some really silly mistakes.

First, Osasuna's coach, Camacho, is a Real Madrid legend. Why would he want to beat Madrid and offer the Liga to Barcelona? Osasuna is not a weak team. They know to defend very well and all big teams have problems with them. Second, their coach rested some of the players of the first team (they have a champions league final this week (H)). Third, besides Masoud didn't score with an empty goal (it was harder to lose it), their defense performance was pathetic (especially their keeper who was like a tourist in the last 20 mins of the game).

As I said, you don't follow La Liga as much as I do coz you would have known some other stuffs. 3 years ago, teams (RM and FCB) were publicly offering bonuses to the teams that were playing FCB and RM respectively. For instance, Barça offered bonuses to Mallorca players to get points in Bernabeu, while Madrid did it with Getafe players.

Madrid has done several comebacks this season, more than Barça I guess, but I've never said this before until I watched this game against Osasuna. I mean, it was so obvious. It was only a matter of time when Madrid was gonna score the winning goal.

Granero its out.

McxVFkdP24wit's difficult to hear the first part of when they are supposedly speaking "English" ... heck, it's difficult to really hear the castilian parts as well ... and I keep hearing something that is possibly Granero's response, but can't hear it clearly ... maybe that's coz I'm listening on my netbook speakers ... anyway, dark shades, being given heartfelt reassurances: sure does look like Granero is on his way out ...

and Mahamadou alludes to leaving at the end of his contract next season ... I'm sure there won't be a shortage of options, especially if he shows that he's recovered from his injury ...

You probably don't follow La liga as much as I do, so ...

I didn't say they paid the referee. It may happen, but I don't care for referees that much unless they make some really silly mistakes.

First, Osasuna's coach, Camacho, is a Real Madrid legend. Why would he want to beat Madrid and offer the Liga to Barcelona? Osasuna is not a weak team. They know to defend very well and all big teams have problems with them. Second, their coach rested some of the players of the first team (they have a champions league final this week (H)). Third, besides Masoud didn't score with an empty goal (it was harder to lose it), their defense performance was pathetic (especially their keeper who was like a tourist in the last 20 mins of the game).

As I said, you don't follow La Liga as much as I do coz you would have known some other stuffs. 3 years ago, teams (RM and FCB) were publicly offering bonuses to the teams that were playing FCB and RM respectively. For instance, Barça offered bonuses to Mallorca players to get points in Bernabeu, while Madrid did it with Getafe players.

Madrid has done several comebacks this season, more than Barça I guess, but I've never said this before until I watched this game against Osasuna. I mean, it was so obvious. It was only a matter of time when Madrid was gonna score the winning goal.

Just give it up already. Osasuna played a great game for their standards, had Madrid in trouble, and got a bit unlucky.

M. Diarra had been injured for a while, but has been on the benched and playing as a sub for a few games now. Gago actually played this weekend..... unfortunately. You can have him if you want him though :$

Its an interesting thing what has happened to Lass...

He started the season on the same line as last year as you probably know and then there followed almost 5 months of bad performance after another...No sort of understanding with Xabi plus his well known temper problems (bad attitude) started surfacing again, from what I undestand he started having dissagreements with Pelle and I think we have seen Pelle doesnt like that at all...anyway...

I think Pelle felt that Lass took away from what he was trying to do in the middle and started played Gago and has played gago for three or four straight now, including the Classico. and to be fair Gago hasnt done too poorly TBH....No he's not an elite player but he has covered alright...Our problem at this point is Guti's inconsistency and Granero's mediocre play...And then we got the conundrum with Marcelo...and the fact that Kaka hasnt performed as he should...Its a mess really, that's why I think Silva is a good option for us and Onda Cero is saying its all done just waiting for the end of the season

Lass likes to enjoy madrid's night, just like Benzema, Guti and Sneijder. He will be sold.

Damn you Lass, why couldn't you just play and lay low. Still remember how we were comparing him to the next Makelele :(

You probably don't follow La liga as much as I do, so ...

I didn't say they paid the referee. It may happen, but I don't care for referees that much unless they make some really silly mistakes.

First, Osasuna's coach, Camacho, is a Real Madrid legend. Why would he want to beat Madrid and offer the Liga to Barcelona? Osasuna is not a weak team. They know to defend very well and all big teams have problems with them. Second, their coach rested some of the players of the first team (they have a champions league final this week (H)). Third, besides Masoud didn't score with an empty goal (it was harder to lose it), their defense performance was pathetic (especially their keeper who was like a tourist in the last 20 mins of the game).

As I said, you don't follow La Liga as much as I do coz you would have known some other stuffs. 3 years ago, teams (RM and FCB) were publicly offering bonuses to the teams that were playing FCB and RM respectively. For instance, Barça offered bonuses to Mallorca players to get points in Bernabeu, while Madrid did it with Getafe players.

Madrid has done several comebacks this season, more than Barça I guess, but I've never said this before until I watched this game against Osasuna. I mean, it was so obvious. It was only a matter of time when Madrid was gonna score the winning goal.

This reminds me of the South Park 'Fishsticks' episode. I believe that you believe this bull****, which is all the more pathetic.

You probably don't follow La liga as much as I do, so ...

I didn't say they paid the referee. It may happen, but I don't care for referees that much unless they make some really silly mistakes.

First, Osasuna's coach, Camacho, is a Real Madrid legend. Why would he want to beat Madrid and offer the Liga to Barcelona? Osasuna is not a weak team. They know to defend very well and all big teams have problems with them. Second, their coach rested some of the players of the first team (they have a champions league final this week (H)). Third, besides Masoud didn't score with an empty goal (it was harder to lose it), their defense performance was pathetic (especially their keeper who was like a tourist in the last 20 mins of the game).

As I said, you don't follow La Liga as much as I do coz you would have known some other stuffs. 3 years ago, teams (RM and FCB) were publicly offering bonuses to the teams that were playing FCB and RM respectively. For instance, Barça offered bonuses to Mallorca players to get points in Bernabeu, while Madrid did it with Getafe players.

Madrid has done several comebacks this season, more than Barça I guess, but I've never said this before until I watched this game against Osasuna. I mean, it was so obvious. It was only a matter of time when Madrid was gonna score the winning goal.

Where is your stupid conspiracy theories now when Tenerife rests four starters (Nino, Ayoze, Bertrain, and Ricardo)? Of course you'll see this as Tenerife not "resting" players but offering other players opportunities to play on the same field as Xavi, Messi, and the gang.

Its situations like these that should make people like you shut the **** up

Why is this Tenerife v Barca match have me on the edge of my seat when It shouldn't be the case?. It's only half time..... and it's Tenerife... and its 1-1. :(

someone being pwned here by everyone haha :D.

Anyways.. can someone please translate the conversation going on between Granero and Diarra in that video? Thanks :).

Hopefully we can pull it off against Mallorca.. will be a tough match!

I didn't rewatch it, but I remember when I watched the piece when they first aired it, and I think Diarra is telling Granero not to worry. Sometimes you play, sometimes you don't, and Granero isn't too pleased with the idea.

Where is your stupid conspiracy theories now when Tenerife rests four starters (Nino, Ayoze, Bertrain, and Ricardo)? Of course you'll see this as Tenerife not "resting" players but offering other players opportunities to play on the same field as Xavi, Messi, and the gang.

Its situations like these that should make people like you shut the **** up

Tenerife are on the 18th place and they knew they don't have chances in Camp Nou. Also, those 4 players risked of not playing against Almeria (it can be the game of the season) if they would have been booked.

While Osasuna isn't in such a bad position. They are on the 12th place and 4 points away of relegation zone. One of their remaining games is against Real Madrid B (Espanyol).

Tenerife are on the 18th place and they knew they don't have chances in Camp Nou. Also, those 4 players risked of not playing against Almeria (it can be the game of the season) if they would have been booked.

While Osasuna isn't in such a bad position. They are on the 12th place and 4 points away of relegation zone. One of their remaining games is against Real Madrid B (Espanyol).

Of Course!....:clapwap:

You know you are not only idiotic but dellusional, which only makes you doubly idiotic.....Do us a favor and save us the trouble of having to tell you how stupid you sound on every post and just admit that you are an idiot.




ANyways, I had no hopes for Tenerife I knew they could not handle what was likely to be a desperate team for a full 90....maybe a team like Almeria could have or Getafe but not Tenerife...

now its our turn...we got to take the points and hope for a miracle in Sevilla...

Tenerife are on the 18th place and they knew they don't have chances in Camp Nou. Also, those 4 players risked of not playing against Almeria (it can be the game of the season) if they would have been booked.

While Osasuna isn't in such a bad position. They are on the 12th place and 4 points away of relegation zone. One of their remaining games is against Real Madrid B (Espanyol).

YOU GOT TO BE ******* KIDDING ME!!!!!! You mean to tell me that a team that is fighting for relegation and needs every POINT they can get can has more of a reason to rest players, especially when their direct rivals are playing on the same day. If you believe that logic than you need to get your head checked...something is horribly wrong with your head.

You got to be by the FAR the most BLIND fan on this forum of all time. I have been here 8 years and have yet to find anybody worse than you. I should have known something was wrong when you referred to "Catalans" as "we"

hahah, you guys need to relax with Buti ... yeah, he's not making too many friends with his posts, but it looks like he's decided to up the offensive (and no, I'm not talking about profanity), in response to all the Barça haters who all suddenly came out of hiding to take a cheap shot at Barça (it's been a year and a bit of result-oriented individuals not having much to badmouth Barça about) ...

tired and frustrated of defending his team and its constituent elements, Buti's gone on the offensive, and is just shooting his mouth at Real Madrid, and exaggerating with his pledges of fanaticism toward Barça ... it's a shame that is has come to that for him, but it is understandable to a degree ...

I also can't blame anyone for responding to him, and correcting him, and such, but it's a vicious cycle, and someone's got to be the bigger man, not provoke back, and give diplomacy a shot ...

Buti needs to relax too ... yeah, we get it, you think Real Madrid are corrupt, and they are trying to buy everyone off to win the title ... point made, and I think everyone will remember that you said so ...

there's a lot more to discuss about Real Madrid than constantly hurling abuse at them ... I'm a fan of Barça, but I'm not antimadrista ... I'd prefer to come to this thread to seeing rational and meaningful discussions on Real Madrid, rumours for summer changes at the club, transfer market rumours on the potential wheelings and dealings, and other news ...

Xifio, I respect you, perhaps the most even keeled Cule I've encountered online...Most importantly you are a lover of football, I respect that as well.

Arnau I respect, he's a Cule thru and thru. A real Cule he doesnt hide, he is annoying at times, but you know he is honest and truthful and feels the colors and he has also shown the ability to recognize when things really are happening and when they are not, I respect that.

Even Vega who started sort of like Buty has made a turn about and is quite the mature and insightful poster..I respect a man who recognizes his mistakes

Buty on the other hand is simply inexcusable. Haven't you stopped to think that a lot of the 'Barca hate' as you call it has been mostly directed at fans such as buty, who not only boast and brag like many do, but become arrogant and annoying, sometimes even dellusional...he hasnt been attacked, all the flak he is catching he has earned...

That's all I have to say about him... next post is back to Madrid issues/topics

Buti needs to relax too ... yeah, we get it, you think Real Madrid are corrupt, and they are trying to buy everyone off to win the title ... point made, and I think everyone will remember that you said so ...

there's a lot more to discuss about Real Madrid than constantly hurling abuse at them ... I'm a fan of Barça, but I'm not antimadrista ... I'd prefer to come to this thread to seeing rational and meaningful discussions on Real Madrid, rumours for summer changes at the club, transfer market rumours on the potential wheelings and dealings, and other news ...

lol

I'm relaxed. (H) I'm just playing with them. I make a post here and then 10 people after me make the same comment about that post. All say the same thing.

They don't have other things to talk and all they do is comment my posts! (H) I love that. And also, I'm not posting anything off-topic. I'm just giving my opinion about "a bad movie that I saw". (H)

For instance, the genius Azrael. He can't stand me, but he replies to every post of mine. He makes like 5 replies to me and then 1 post on 'his' thread.

Then, the idiot Vitu, He NEVER posts in Juventus thread. All what he does is posting on the thread of the team he hates (Barça).

Etc, etc.

I'll be visiting this thread more and more during the coming weeks. I love to see you guys suffering. Investing 250 Million Euros and still watching all the finals (and others celebrate) on tv is a shame.


YOU GOT TO BE ******* KIDDING ME!!!!!! You mean to tell me that a team that is fighting for relegation and needs every POINT they can get can has more of a reason to rest players, especially when their direct rivals are playing on the same day. If you believe that logic than you need to get your head checked...something is horribly wrong with your head.

Sure. Apparently, you haven't read my previous post. I told you the reasons why they would have done so.


Xifio, I respect you, perhaps the most even keeled Cule I've encountered online...Most importantly you are a lover of football, I respect that as well.

Arnau I respect, he's a Cule thru and thru. A real Cule he doesnt hide, he is annoying at times, but you know he is honest and truthful and feels the colors and he has also shown the ability to recognize when things really are happening and when they are not, I respect that.

Even Vega who started sort of like Buty has made a turn about and is quite the mature and insightful poster..I respect a man who recognizes his mistakes

Buty on the other hand is simply inexcusable. Haven't you stopped to think that a lot of the 'Barca hate' as you call it has been mostly directed at fans such as buty, who not only boast and brag like many do, but become arrogant and annoying, sometimes even dellusional...he hasnt been attacked, all the flak he is catching he has earned...

That's all I have to say about him... next post is back to Madrid issues/topics

(H) Who's talking here! The retarted KingPaulV.

Where were you during the last months?

You only came here after Barça was eliminated from Inter, and now, to sound that you were always here, you started to post something on your ugly thread. I hope you stay here till the end of the season though.

It's easy just to come and 'laugh' at Barça, but stay here so people can laugh with your shitty team.


Only MaestroZidane is a man here. He's always been here. When your team was having bad and good moments.

Sure. Apparently, you haven't read my previous post. I told you the reasons why they would have done so.


Yes I did read your post and any retard can come up with a more logical post than you. But if you believe the written diarrhoea that you just left on this thread than more power to you, I guess.

All I got to say to you is that the true and real fans of any club will do anything to ensure that the image of their club is not tarnished by their own actions. Somebody who really cares for their club will do that and not resort to petty remarks like you have made in the past post. Any real fan will do whatever it takes to help grow their club's image. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE.

In your case, you ALONE, have done more to hurt the image of Barcelona as a club here on soccergaming. You alone have been the main reason why most people on this forum wanted Barca to lose to Inter, and that is huge considering Inter's Coach is arguably one of the most hated people in football.

It is members like you that make communities like SG what it is today. A shell of what it once was. I remember the days when you could leave SG for 10 mins, come back, and have 3-4 brand new threads with relevant discussions about the game. That doesn't happen anymore.

Now I suggest that you go back to the Barca Thread (Soccergaming's equivalent to a circle jerk) and post in other threads when you have something logical, constructive, and meaningful to post.

One more thing, as a fan of a club with a modest budget (FC Porto) I feel enraged when you throw in Madrid fans faces that they spent 250 million, expecially seeing what you paid for Ibrahimovic (like what 50 million plus Etoo). Because to 99% of clubs around the world you have also overspent significantly. My club cant afford to pay the wages of your club. I can only imagine the number of players earning over 100,000 euros/week playing for your club (Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Ibra, Henry, etc....) so go **** yourself on that regard. Any club that gives 14 million for players like Keirison (BUST), 20+ million for Caceres, and 14+ for Henrique (I think), 20+ for Chygrinski, and various other busts over the past years should be quiet and not discuss how much one team spends, especially when your team's budget is bigger than 99% of the footy world. In terms of spending and money you and Real are on the SAME BOAT

Dont forget that success is cyclical and it will end and then you will have to eat every last word you have written on these and prob other forums. Very few clubs have been able to maintain such a run of form for an extended period of time. remember that.

It is not to late to change, especially considering you cant be older than 16 years old. Hopefully you can become a decent member of this community

Hopefully the best team wins La Liga, and by best I mean the one who ends with the most points. Because it is not 2 games that make a season, its all 38!!!!

Yes I did read your post and any retard can come up with a more logical post than you. But if you believe the written diarrhoea that you just left on this thread than more power to you, I guess.

All I got to say to you is that the true and real fans of any club will do anything to ensure that the image of their club is not tarnished by their own actions. Somebody who really cares for their club will do that and not resort to petty remarks like you have made in the past post. Any real fan will do whatever it takes to help grow their club's image. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE.

In your case, you ALONE, have done more to hurt the image of Barcelona as a club here on soccergaming. You alone have been the main reason why most people on this forum wanted Barca to lose to Inter, and that is huge considering Inter's Coach is arguably one of the most hated people in football.

It is members like you that make communities like SG what it is today. A shell of what it once was. I remember the days when you could leave SG for 10 mins, come back, and have 3-4 brand new threads with relevant discussions about the game. That doesn't happen anymore.

Now I suggest that you go back to the Barca Thread (Soccergaming's equivalent to a circle jerk) and post in other threads when you have something logical, constructive, and meaningful to post.

One more thing, as a fan of a club with a modest budget (FC Porto) I feel enraged when you throw in Madrid fans faces that they spent 250 million, expecially seeing what you paid for Ibrahimovic (like what 50 million plus Etoo). Because to 99% of clubs around the world you have also overspent significantly. My club cant afford to pay the wages of your club. I can only imagine the number of players earning over 100,000 euros/week playing for your club (Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Ibra, Henry, etc....) so go **** yourself on that regard. Any club that gives 14 million for players like Keirison (BUST), 20+ million for Caceres, and 14+ for Henrique (I think), 20+ for Chygrinski, and various other busts over the past years should be quiet and not discuss how much one team spends, especially when your team's budget is bigger than 99% of the footy world. In terms of spending and money you and Real are on the SAME BOAT

Dont forget that success is cyclical and it will end and then you will have to eat every last word you have written on these and prob other forums. Very few clubs have been able to maintain such a run of form for an extended period of time. remember that.

It is not to late to change, especially considering you cant be older than 16 years old. Hopefully you can become a decent member of this community

Hopefully the best team wins La Liga, and by best I mean the one who ends with the most points. Because it is not 2 games that make a season, its all 38!!!!

That seems rather probable.

For instance, the genius Azrael. He can't stand me, but he replies to every post of mine. He makes like 5 replies to me and then 1 post on 'his' thread.



Because you're THAT stupid to merit 5 responses. Also I don't have a thread, I assume you mean the Chelsea thread. Thing is, whereas the Barca and Madrid threads are littered with pointless post-boosting, other threads are restricted to actual discussion (since, thankfully, you don't follow the EPL).

It is not 2 games that make a season, its all 38!!!!

Barça made 93 points and madriz 89 (92 if they win tonight), the record with 20 teams it was 87 and 92 with 22 teams. Both teams deserve the league and both must be proud of their work.

Barça made 93 points and madriz 89 (92 if they win tonight), the record with 20 teams it was 87 and 92 with 22 teams. Both teams deserve the league and both must be proud of their work.

There you go, take a lesson from this post.

Jaboldinho, dont be a smart ass, you know damn well what I meant to say. Buti thinks Barca deserves it more cuz they beat Real twice, what I meant was that those two games dont matter during a 38 game season.

There you go, take a lesson from this post.

Buti thinks Barca deserves it more cuz they beat Real twice, what I meant was that those two games dont matter during a 38 game season.

Arnau is just coping Guardiola's words. ;)

And where did I say that Barça deserves the league more because we beat Real Madrid twice? I've never said that.

btw, I'm not replying to your long post coz I'm lazy to post on every point (considering that most of them are pointless). But, I'm just telling you that the real idiots are the ones who create an impression for a certain club relying to a fan in a forum. Barça has millions of fans worldwide. And the first thing you should create an impression for a club is by watching their game, history, and other stuffs; not fans.

and btw, I have heared that in Milano, if for instance, Inter beats AC Milano twice during the season, even if Milano wins the League, they would be ashamed before Inter fans. While we have beaten Real Madrid in the last 4 el clasicos.

Because Pep is right, always is actually.

Because Pep is right, always is actually.

I've never doubted that. :)

There you go, take a lesson from this post.

Jaboldinho, dont be a smart ass, you know damn well what I meant to say. Buti thinks Barca deserves it more cuz they beat Real twice, what I meant was that those two games dont matter during a 38 game season.

Chill man, just joking around a bit... Geez.

Mallorca tonight......massive fixture but I expect us to squeeze thru. The next and biggest test will be Bilbao and Barca at Sevilla....I really dont have a lot of hope for that Sevilla match, but one can always dream...Its an exciting end and Like Arnau said both teams deserve the title...

BTW you all know damn well why I left the forum because Arnau and Buty and KP posted here more than any Madridista, and I didnt feel like fending off childish attacks not just on Real Madrid but on myself; I come here to discuss football, the club and of course banter is not bad but when they populated the thread with garbage I went to another forum where I had the oportunity to discuss Madrid with other people...and Im still quite active there...they actually have Mods that regulate and keep threads from getting like this one did.

I came back not cause of Barca's loss to Inter (dont rate yourself so highly cules) I give two fvcks about that; I made fun not of the loss but the arrogance and classlessness displayed by lots of fans and the organization...I came back because it seems that the anti-madridismo and post boosting that was going on in here faded and I wanted to contribute to the thread again wihtout having to argue with kids all the time....I have been at SG since '02 that also had an influence on me....

I came back not cause of Barca's loss to Inter (dont rate yourself so highly cules) I give two fvcks about that; I made fun not of the loss but the arrogance and classlessness displayed by lots of fans and the organization...I came back because it seems that the anti-madridismo and post boosting that was going on in here faded and I wanted to contribute to the thread again wihtout having to argue with kids all the time....I have been at SG since '02 that also had an influence on me....

Oh, what a coincidence. :icon_spin:

You came straight to Barça thread and laughed with Barça. Did exactly what you're saying that you left the forum because of.

Anti-Madridismo exists in Barcelona. Same with Anti-Barcelonismo in Madrid. Barça fans here didn't invent it. It exist also in the other forum you're mentioning. Just as you said, there are mods that don't let threads ruin. I agree this forum needs mods though.

Mallorca tonight......massive fixture but I expect us to squeeze thru. The next and biggest test will be Bilbao and Barca at Sevilla....I really dont have a lot of hope for that Sevilla match, but one can always dream...Its an exciting end and Like Arnau said both teams deserve the title...

BTW you all know damn well why I left the forum because Arnau and Buty and KP posted here more than any Madridista, and I didnt feel like fending off childish attacks not just on Real Madrid but on myself; I come here to discuss football, the club and of course banter is not bad but when they populated the thread with garbage I went to another forum where I had the oportunity to discuss Madrid with other people...and Im still quite active there...they actually have Mods that regulate and keep threads from getting like this one did.

I came back not cause of Barca's loss to Inter (dont rate yourself so highly cules) I give two fvcks about that; I made fun not of the loss but the arrogance and classlessness displayed by lots of fans and the organization...I came back because it seems that the anti-madridismo and post boosting that was going on in here faded and I wanted to contribute to the thread again wihtout having to argue with kids all the time....I have been at SG since '02 that also had an influence on me....

See, this I don't understand. Could you please be more specific? If you mean the sprinklers, it's definitely not the organization, it's just some pissed of field keeper.

Why must you guys do this to me.. You want me to have a heart attack or what?:blush:

Gregorio deserves a momument, his team its still fighting for the CL spot with the scum of the others.

AMUNT MALLORCA! :D

Ronaldo in top form today!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0auf3lbcYV852/x610.jpg

CR9!! You beast!!!!! YOU FVCKINFG BEAST!!!

post goal

See, this I don't understand. Could you please be more specific? If you mean the sprinklers, it's definitely not the organization, it's just some pissed of field keeper.

LOL you dont even believe that...a pissed off field keeper...LOL....

That is beyond naive.....Even Laporta commented on the action and Barca's executive director admited it was a mistake...The decision came from above and it brough embarrassment to the whole club, and shouldn't have happened...Barca should be better than that....

Nevermind Valdes attitude at the end, or how they treated Etoo, a guy who gave you guys everything for 5 years.....

anyway, I wont take your post serious because even you know better than that...

Why must you guys do this to me.. You want me to have a heart attack or what?:blush:

Very original :browsmiley:

Gotta love CR9 (unless your kp40 ;) ). And did the people of mallorca actually applaud him?? if so, my hats of to the fans

Higuian scores his goal as well, was a bit worried that he wouldn't get one.

Now I'll just wait and see what reason bybuti gives as to why we won by 4.. (Y)

HALA MADRID!!

People of Mallorca = 33% --> Mallorquinistas, 33% --> Madridistas and 33% --> Barcelonistas, so yes, they aplause him... the madridistas.

Very original :browsmiley:

Gotta love CR9 (unless your kp40 ;) ). And did the people of mallorca actually applaud him?? if so, my hats of to the fans

Higuian scores his goal as well, was a bit worried that he wouldn't get one.

Now I'll just wait and see what reason bybuti gives as to why we won by 4.. (Y)

HALA MADRID!!

Cheaters!!!!

1) The ref gave Madrid all the calls.
2) Ronaldo used robotic legs to catch the first goal.
3) Mallorca was paid off to not play UCL
4) Mallorca should have had a penalty
5) Florentino spent 250m

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Haha couldn't resist:icon_spin:

BTW

Ronaldo had a very good game, he caused Mallorca tons of trouble. I must say though that for me your most crucial player is Iker, his talent is phenomenal, he saved some good shots when it could have been 2-0.

But Madrid did what it has done all season fought and fought and eventually they broke through Ronaldo. It was all Real after the first goal. Although Kudos for Mallorca who showed glimpses of why they are in the position of a potential UCL spot, before it was long balls and today they tried to do their normal match against you.

Its come down to what I knew and kind of am worried about, the Sevilla match. It really could go either way, our playersw are gonna have a lot of pressure.

Well enjoy the win, we'll see Sunday what destiny awaits us both.

is that 32 goals in 33 games now? :eek: Provided he stays injury free its sure going to make the Ballon d'Or a lot more interesting next year. What a player, better then Messi if your asking me.

Cheaters!!!!

1) The ref gave Madrid all the calls.
2) Ronaldo used robotic legs to catch the first goal.
3) Mallorca was paid off to not play UCL
4) Mallorca should have had a penalty
5) Florentino spent 250m

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Haha couldn't resist:icon_spin:

BTW

Ronaldo had a very good game, he caused Mallorca tons of trouble. I must say though that for me your most crucial player is Iker, his talent is phenomenal, he saved some good shots when it could have been 2-0.

But Madrid did what it has done all season fought and fought and eventually they broke through Ronaldo. It was all Real after the first goal. Although Kudos for Mallorca who showed glimpses of why they are in the position of a potential UCL spot, before it was long balls and today they tried to do their normal match against you.

Its come down to what I knew and kind of am worried about, the Sevilla match. It really could go either way, our playersw are gonna have a lot of pressure.

Well enjoy the win, we'll see Sunday what destiny awaits us both.

hahaha.. I would have also accepted... one of the players, coaches or guys in upper management are madrid fans deep down.. :tongue:

Thanks for playing ;)

is that 32 goals in 33 games now? :eek: Provided he stays injury free its sure going to make the Ballon d'Or a lot more interesting next year. What a player, better then Messi if your asking me.

We'll it is interesting, I think both Messi and Ronaldo have both shown they are superior to all players. Ronaldo has 32 in 33, and Messi 44 goals total this season:icon_spin::icon_spin: I don't think even CR did that at his best year for you guys.

But I think Messi is better than Ronaldo, because of his finess, some of his finishes are soft and delicate, like the game is in slow motion for him. Not to mention his ability to move out of impossible places with the ball at his feet.

I must say though that either player deserves the Ballon d'Or, the only sad thing is its World Cup year. I think neither of them will get it, the Ballon d'Or is going to the captain of the World Cup champion. Might even be Lucio if he lifts both the UCL and the World Cup this year lolz :icon_spin::icon_spin:

Either way, I predict neither is Ballon d'Or winner this year, because Argentina and Portugal don't have the squads to win the World Cup this year.

Argentina has the squad.. Is the coach who is the problem.

Yeah true that, Argies got more than enough takent to take it all, but man that coach.....

Well fellas, Cules and Merengues this is is! the deciding weekend to the most loopsided league in the history of Spain is upon us....Im still in awe of what both teams have done, 93 and 92 points is just unreal...and what's more unreal is that things are not settled yet and more points might be requiered....that is just insane!

Cheers to both and lets hope for a weekend of thrills!

Yeah true that, Argies got more than enough takent to take it all, but man that coach.....
Argentina has the squad.. Is the coach who is the problem.Argentina has the players, but Maradona doesn't always pick the best players for the job ... I mean, if he keeps calling up and starting players like Jonás Gutiérrez, while not calling up or not starting players like Cambiasso and Zanetti, then I don't think they'll get far ... mind you, they have a piss-easy group and section of the draw, so their first challenge may only come when they're vying for a place in the semis ...



the deciding weekend to the most loopsided league in the history of Spain is upon usyou think it'll be done after this weekend? no final matchday drama? so either Sevilla stops us, or it's done? I think you're right ... Mallorca away was supposed to be your stumbling block, but your star man brought you through it ... despite their loss, Mallorca are still snapping at Sevilla's heels for that last Champions League spot, so it will be a challenge for Barça to go to Seville to beat a Sevilla side motivated by the return to Champions League football ... I'm not one to worry much about it, though ... but I do agree with the notion that this weekend is the decider ...

No my friend; not a chance. There wont be any excitement on the last weekend, if Sevilla cant make you drop points I think we can call it a day...because Valladolid will be nothing short of a victory parade for you guys ....It will be exciting, the type of weekend that makes you remember why you follow the beautiful game

wow great to see ronaldo doing well. If it werent for those injuries im sure he would have scored more.

****. Now, we have to finish the job in Sevilla.

We win, we celebrate; we lose, you celebrate.

I don't have a single hope on Bilbao. I was hoping that you were going to drop points in Mallorca, but you didn't. So, now we have to finish it by ourselves.

is that 32 goals in 33 games now? :eek: Provided he stays injury free its sure going to make the Ballon d'Or a lot more interesting next year. What a player, better then Messi if your asking me.

Don't be impressed that much.

Ronaldo has scored like 4 goals against Basel, 2-3 against Tenerife and so on. Most of his goals has been against 'small' teams when Madrid easily won the games. He hasn't been as decisive as Messi. Ok, he scored a hat-trick last night, but other than that, he has just helped his team improve the GA. Most of the times, he hides in big matches.

While, Messi has decided and won many matches by himself.

Aimar's playing well and Maradona who dont have many players like him even call him. That says all.

****. Now, we have to finish the job in Sevilla.

We win, we celebrate; we lose, you celebrate.

I don't have a single hope on Bilbao. I was hoping that you were going to drop points in Mallorca, but you didn't. So, now we have to finish it by ourselves.



Don't be impressed that much.

Ronaldo has scored like 4 goals against Basel, 2-3 against Tenerife and so on. Most of his goals has been against 'small' teams when Madrid easily won the games. He hasn't been as decisive as Messi. Ok, he scored a hat-trick last night, but other than that, he has just helped his team improve the GA. Most of the times, he hides in big matches.

While, Messi has decided and won many matches by himself.


You're right but, Barça has Xavi. Messi without him isnt the same ( like you could see in Inter's CL first leg. Madrid has who? Sergio Ramos? lol. Who makes long range passes to Ronaldo . Its more difficult to be a great player in Madrid than Barça, and this is the first season of Ronaldo. But i must confess that Messi's a monster this season specialy.

Thats just stupid, one of messi's best performances ever was against Stuttgart and Against Zaragoza, both without Xavi.

You're right but, Barça has Xavi. Messi without him isnt the same ( like you could see in Inter's CL first leg. Madrid has who? Sergio Ramos? lol. Who makes long range passes to Ronaldo . Its more difficult to be a great player in Madrid than Barça, and this is the first season of Ronaldo. But i must confess that Messi's a monster this season specialy.

They will accuse us for ruining their thread. :D

Yes, I agree. Xavi and Iniesta help Messi a lot. But still, Messi is capable of doing things without them as well.

But, you can't say that Madrid has a poor team. They have big names as well: Kaka, Alonso, etc. The fact that they are not preforming well it's another issue.

I've said it many times, I think that Ronaldo is a great player. But I don't like his personality and I don't think he's a better player than Messi. That's my view. Different people have different views. I do accept others' views as something normal though.

Thats just stupid, one of messi's best performances ever was against Stuttgart and Against Zaragoza, both without Xavi.yeah, but neither Stuttgart nor Zaragoza are "big" teams, meaning they weren't exactly "big" matches ... well Stuttgart, I suppose, has the Champions League argument ... but if Cristiano scoring against Tenerife isn't a big deal, I don't see how Messi's performance against Zaragoza could be considered that much more significant ...

Both are different players who play in different positions. They are both fantastic players but Ronaldo is more complete and messi is more effective.

Aimar's playing well and Maradona who dont have many players like him even call him. That says all.

God I hope Maradona reads this! I've always been a fan of el payasito, I loved him when he played for Valencia. Do you guys play him in a free role behind the 2 forwards?

I think Argentina need him or Riquelme in a free role behind el pipita and la pulga. That would free Messi so he hasn't have to come to midfield to recieve a decent pass. I hope Maradona doesn't go to South Africa without Airmar or Riquelme, and also taking Gaby Milito, but Maradona is a stubborn jack ass and thats why they will fail...

I disagree with buti, madrid its performing well, 92 points, but his style its diferent. They play to score and Barça score while playing.

yeah, but neither Stuttgart nor Zaragoza are "big" teams, meaning they weren't exactly "big" matches ... well Stuttgart, I suppose, has the Champions League argument ... but if Cristiano scoring against Tenerife isn't a big deal, I don't see how Messi's performance against Zaragoza could be considered that much more significant ...

I didn't say that, i mean Messi can shine without Xavi.

I didn't say that, i mean Messi can shine without Xavi.people talk about Xavi's influence because with Argentina, there is no Xavi, and Messi has not [yet] really impressed at the international level ... difficult to say how accurate that is ...

I didn't say that, i mean Messi can shine without Xavi.

Can he consistently perform well for a few matches without Xavi? We'll find that out during the world cup :)

Both are different players who play in different positions. They are both fantastic players but Ronaldo is more complete and messi is more effective.

Yeah that sums it up nicely. Ronaldo has a full package for being a top class forward/winger. Messi doesn't have a full package (e.g too short for headers, not that good with long shots or freekicks) but he has superior close control and dribbling skills. Overall Messi is more effective and football is all about end product. So Messi wins.

And Btw just for comparison, Ronaldo's scoring rate is 0.90 whereas Messi's around 0.86. CR has scored more goals per games.

Thats just stupid, one of messi's best performances ever was against Stuttgart and Against Zaragoza, both without Xavi.

When there's no Xavi there's still Iniesta :). Yeah we'll see in the WC where he won't have Xavi or Iniesta.

Yeah that sums it up nicely. Ronaldo has a full package for being a top class forward/winger. Messi doesn't have a full package (e.g too short for headers, not that good with long shots or freekicks) but he has superior close control and dribbling skills. Overall Messi is more effective and football is all about end product. So Messi wins.

And Btw just for comparison, Ronaldo's scoring rate is 0.90 whereas Messi's around 0.86. CR has scored more goals per games.
I'm guessing you haven't watched much of Messi, because he scores lots of goals from the edge of the box. For example...

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Also, Messi's scored three times with his head this year (same as CR9) and scores the occasional free kick. Lets not forget...

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I insisted that Navas would never go to Madrid, but it looks like he would fit right in with his predictions :nape:
http://estaticos03.marca.com/imagenes/2010/05/07/futbol/equipos/sevilla/1273210139_0.jpg

(e.g too short for headers, not that good with long shots or freekicks).

He scored goals with his head this year. Like the one against Deportivo, Zaragoza or Getafe...

He also scored two free kicks, against Dinamo Kiew and Almeria.

I think you don't watch him more. He scored lots of outside-box goals in the last two years.

Search in youtube for Osasuna last minute goal last year; for the Arsenal first goal in Camp Nou; Zaragoza outside-box shot;

And I just can't mention this one...

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This "more complete"fact has already been discussed here at SG so many times in the last two years, and Messi continues to prove he is growing with every match, and has the potential to be the best player in history if he wins WC with Argentina. Not just this World Cup. Maybe the one in 2014 (26-27 y.o) or 2018 (30-31 y.o) because maybe sometimes you forget but he's only 22 years old and he's already considered one of the best. What a legend!

Can he consistently perform well for a few matches without Xavi? We'll find that out during the world cup :)

When there's no Xavi there's still Iniesta :). Yeah we'll see in the WC where he won't have Xavi or Iniesta.


World Cup is without whole FC Barcelona (maybe, just Milito is going to be there). That's not just without Xavi and Iniesta.

Xavi and Iniesta only make Messi's performance more brilliant. Messi can perform without them as well.

I'm guessing you haven't watched much of Messi, because he scores lots of goals from the edge of the box. For example...

Dude, believe me I've seen many (most) of his goals this season. I saw the goals you posted already as well ;). I have to admit he's been improving in his weaknesses but is still nowhere near CR9 in long shots or headers. I actually think he's an excellent header but he's disadvantaged with his short height. So his height makes him much less effective at heading compared to CR9.

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With "long shots" I meant this:

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"edge of the box" doesn't really count as long range to me.

EDIT: Dytza, I have watched all the goals you've been talking about. I do watch La Liga highlights quite often. As I mentioned above, he's still perfecting in heading and long shots while Ronaldo has perfected them already. Ronaldo is a finished product whereas Messi is still perfecting his game.

You're talking more along the lines of rockets. Messi doesnt do rockets as much as CR9. He's more a placement and finesse player so in that I see what you mean...But like others have mentioned it is just a matter of taste, CR9 to me symbolizes the evolution of the game; Power, Speed, raw physical prowess, the modern athlete....Messi is a throwback to the legends of the past. Technique, skill and magic....its truly a passionate debate but a good one.

Cristiano doesn't understand the collective game, he want to finish every attack. If anyone found the stadistic i'm sure he shoot on goal 3412412 more than Messi.

He does however, he is a dominant type of player and both and Man United and here the game goes thru him. Messi plays in a team that lives on collective play so the style of play of the teams influences how they perform...

With Argentina they rely on individuals with very littler organization or instruction, and you see what happens to Messi there...IMO Ronaldo could flourish in a passing oritented/teamwork oriented team like Barca, but Messi would be much like the Argentina Messi on a team like Madrid...just my opinion....

EDIT: Dytza, I have watched all the goals you've been talking about. I do watch La Liga highlights quite often. As I mentioned above, he's still perfecting in heading and long shots while Ronaldo has perfected them already. Ronaldo is a finished product whereas Messi is still perfecting his game.

That's not true, he can still be way better than he is.

In terms of athlete, C. Ronaldo its more balanced than Messi, i think thats obvious. Hes improving a lot, but at this moment Ronaldo like Nady said has a "full package".


I cant resist to put this video:

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That goal celebrations were great!

Ronaldo's "complete package" seems to be missing humility and respect.

Ronaldo's "complete package" seems to be missing humility and respect.regarding humility, I think we can all see where you're coming from ... still, I don't think it's a problem, and I don't think it would "complete" him in any way ... and he lacks respect? how exactly?

regarding humility, I think we can all see where you're coming from ... still, I don't think it's a problem, and I don't think it would "complete" him in any way ... and he lacks respect? how exactly?
Predicting that Madrid would beat Lyon 3-0, for example. Total lack of respect for a formidable opponent.

That was Sergio Ramos actually

That was Sergio Ramos actually
Ronaldo did as well:

http://estaticos01.marca.com/multimedia/primeras/10/02/g0218.jpg

Predicting that Madrid would beat Lyon 3-0, for example. Total lack of respect for a formidable opponent.that's what he expects ... I can see why you think that is disrespectful, but it doesn't bother me ... if it blows up in his face, as it did, then the media and his critics have fodder to criticize him ... if he delivered, then that's that ... and, btw, if Real had won 3-0, it would not have been a surprise ... Lyon are a good team, and they have progressed well, but they are ironically not as strong as Lyon teams from previous seasons ... this Real Madrid team is star-studded, and such a win would have been expected ... but they are young enough to have the time they need to gel and progress ... I'm expecting much more from them next season in Europe ...

and anyway, I would contend that scoring a goal with your hand is more disrespectful than making bold predictions, because it disrespects the sport as a whole through blatant cheating ...

100 goals and 95 points is insane....it is amazing that we cant be champions with those numbers...I wish they could have a total tie....because these numbers we put up were crazy.....

If only Sevilla had showed up in the first half, we could be talking a different story....

well its over...Congrats to the cules, both teams deserved it, but they won when it mattered...


yes, I know that its not 'officially' over but lets be serious Valladolid at Camp Nou is a foregone conclusion

you lost both legs against them, and they were involved in more competitions so I say they deserve the title much more.

Btw, Barca and Real dominated the whole league. Look at the gap between them and other teams. It's not good for La Liga.

You guys need a fvcking team!! Only good players wont solve anything!

??? :confused:

What we need is Defense.. god that was F***ing awful defending....

No we need continuity.....meaning, keep Pelle stop all this Mourihno talk...sign only whats needed not what is sexy (ie. Ribery/not needed) and let the coach work in peace and you shall see results, but with the current state of affairs is almost impossible to allow chemistry and continuity to form

No we need continuity.....meaning, keep Pelle stop all this Mourihno talk...sign only whats needed not what is sexy (ie. Ribery/not needed) and let the coach work in peace and you shall see results, but with the current state of affairs is almost impossible to allow chemistry and continuity to form

well said, but you know Marca, Raul Gang, some Madrid fans.:blush:

well said, but you know Marca, Raul Gang, some Madrid fans.:blush:

You mean MOST Madrid fans.

No Some Madrid Fans, people get tired of changing coach every year, even Madridistas....

I think my Madridismo is getting ready to be tested.....I hear strong rumors that Pipita Higuain (our leading La liga scorer) is getting ready to be sold......if he is sold.....humm...that's really gonna test me...I might just wish Barca embarass us again...just because of the idiocy of both Valdano and Florentino....

Tough spot for me

He score 27 goals but isn't enough galáctico. Florentino get rid all the former presidents signs. (Anelka, Redondo, Robben, Sneijder...)

Robben has been the best Bayern player this season, Sneijder the same for Inter, they'll be in the final of Bernabeu; so are we sure it has been good to bring Kakà and let these 2 worldclass players away? Me not, anyway the Liga is not over yet, but it's been a wonderfull championship this years, congratulations to Real and Barca and win the best!!!!!:)

p.s. My hermano lives in Barcelona and he's fan of the "blaugrana" but I get the kits of Barca and Real so I only hope win the best, the rivality is fantastic like any "superclasico" these wonderfull teams have played, but the guy who typed over got reason, Real Madrid cant change trainer every year, this has been an unlucky season but sure the merengues will come better next year!

Ciao, hola, adios!:)

NO :(, I swear no :(, please no :(, I hope Pipita doesn't leave :(. I swear if Pipita leaves I'll I'll :@ arghhh :(.

NO :(, I swear no :(, please no :(, I hope Pipita doesn't leave :(. I swear if Pipita leaves I'll I'll :@ arghhh :(.

Quiet dude, Higuain will stay at Madrid again......:)

I think my Madridismo is getting ready to be tested.....I hear strong rumors that Pipita Higuain (our leading La liga scorer) is getting ready to be sold......if he is sold.....humm...that's really gonna test me...I might just wish Barca embarass us again...just because of the idiocy of both Valdano and Florentino....

Tough spot for me

NO :(, I swear no :(, please no :(, I hope Pipita doesn't leave :(. I swear if Pipita leaves I'll I'll :@ arghhh :(.

Sell him to us!!!!!! (Y)

BTW,

Seriously, if Florentino forces El Pipita out, he deserves to be lynched by the Madridistas. How could a team sell a 22 year old, who bags 27+ goals at that age? He has the potential to be one of the best strikers in the world, he is a natural poacher. Kind of reminds me of Ruud.

Personally I think its just Marca and Co, trying to start **** so you guys sell him and go after Rooney or Tevez. They should be ashamed of themselves, they are more damaging than the Catalan press. Its like they feed of your chaos, I guess it sells alot of their newspapers.

Higuaín looks nothing like RVN, he's more like Torres.

Higuaín looks nothing like RVN, he's more like Torres.

agree:)

Es un orgullo el aplauso de la gente, que sabe que estos tres años y medio que he estado aquí lo he dado todo por este club. Siempre que salgo a jugar dejo todo en el campo, a veces sale bien y a veces sale mal, pero estoy orgulloso de haber podido vestir la camiseta de este equipo

Haha, sounds like a farewell.

If he gets sold Im gonna flip a switch!....Even now I am pretty livid......and I pray that it is not true, but there must be something to this story it cant all just be Marca

I think my Madridismo is getting ready to be tested.....I hear strong rumors that Pipita Higuain (our leading La liga scorer) is getting ready to be sold......if he is sold.....humm...that's really gonna test me...I might just wish Barca embarass us again...just because of the idiocy of both Valdano and Florentino....

Tough spot for me

On with you KingPaulV.. I mean I was livid when the rumors of Sneijder were coming out that he was getting traded for Ronaldo (the first year of course). Now if Higuian gets sold then I'm going to be one very P***ed off madridistas...... and like you said... I might wish for that same embarrasment.

right now (and like I've said before) Marca can just F**K off. I would gladly p**s on all those that like to stir sh*t up on their graves

Seriously, can't resist.

http://i39.tinypic.com/flwkn4.jpg


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Players have to do their job on the field, not through the media.

Yeah you really cant resist being an annoying fvcking troll cant you....everything was going smoothly until you decided to do the very thing that cause this thread to decline...fvck off

Someone should ban bybuti from the team threads forum... or at least give him access to only post and ruin the barcelona thread.

lol benzema still wearing his first Communion's polo.

Yeah you really cant resist being an annoying fvcking troll cant you....everything was going smoothly until you decided to do the very thing that cause this thread to decline...fvck off

I'm just posting what your players said. (H)

Which rule prohibits doing that?

If that is annoying for you, then you should hate your players ...

Bybuti, Arnau, u know I consider u friends of mine ok? But it's not a right way joking this way on the feelings of Madrid supporters, u gotta always pay respect to all the teams in the world included Real Madrid, and remember u've still not won anything cause in the Liga there's another game to play.....
Ciao:)

What i did wrong.

Arnau is fine, he did nothing wrong, is that other troll i got a problem with...what a pest you are buty

whats up with some of the barca fans trying to hijack this thread? stay on your own thread if you guys are going to be annoying pricks. With all do respect.

Arnau is fine, he did nothing wrong, is that other troll i got a problem with...what a pest you are buty

What?

Your players promised tripletes. What's wrong laughing with that?

I can't post it on Barça thread since those players are Real Madrid players.

If that hurts you, then I don't care at all. Next time don't open a Real Madrid thread if these things "ruin the threads". Your players and your newspapers are hurting you, not me. Posting what a Real Madrid player said for a Madrid-based paper in the Real Madrid Thread is totally ok.

You (and other Madridistas as well) came straight to Barça thread after Inter eliminated us. That wasn't a problem for us. You like to laugh with others, but hate it when others do it with you. You are a bitch dude.

btw, if they meant tripletes (without titles), then I'm wrong, I'll leave.

Every single one of those covers has already been posted, several times, in this thread, by you. You have added nothing new to the discussion, nor do you ever. It was simply inflammatory and posting inflammatory posts for the sake of it is the very definition of troll-like behavior. Established members can still be trolls, you know.

The only reason for posting that is to restart the mocking of Madrid which is meant to compensate for whatever failings you are feeling. Considering that you're retarded I cannot fathom how many you might have.

So, next time, at least post something new. Or perhaps cast a different light on it?

Every single one of those covers has already been posted, several times, in this thread, by you. You have added nothing new to the discussion, nor do you ever. It was simply inflammatory and posting inflammatory posts for the sake of it is the very definition of troll-like behavior. Established members can still be trolls, you know.

The only reason for posting that is to restart the mocking of Madrid which is meant to compensate for whatever failings you are feeling. Considering that you're retarded I cannot fathom how many you might have.

So, next time, at least post something new. Or perhaps cast a different light on it?

You also tell us something new.

We're already fed up with your bullshits. Always trying to sound the smartest here is becoming a disease for you boy.

Yeah Az stop trying to be smart! It's making some of us look bad here.

This is gold:

Considering that you're retarded I cannot fathom how many you might have.

I would also like to add that what I find more hilarious than your newspaper Real front pages is the fact that bybuti is an Albanian boy who considers himself Catalan and somehow part of the Barcelona football team (and it's history), although like most of us here he just plainly chose to support it with no real substance behind it, he just liked the team. Maybe he fell in love with them while playing FIFA.

It is truly like a disillusioned retarded boy.

Bybuti seems to have a growing fan club :D I was going to give the young excuse but what's worrying is he's almost 21. To be considered a man :icon_spin::icon_spin:

I would also like to add that what I find more hilarious than your newspaper Real front pages is the fact that bybuti is an Albanian boy who considers himself Catalan and somehow part of the Barcelona football team (and it's history), although like most of us here he just plainly chose to support it with no real substance behind it, he just liked the team. Maybe he fell in love with them while playing FIFA.

It is truly like a disillusioned retarded boy.

I don't consider myself a Catalan. I only support Catalans and that's it.

I wasn't born in Barcelona and I don't have any family relation with Barcelona. I started liking FCBarcelona like 90% of other fans (that aren't born there or don't have any family relation) do. I was a little kid then. And that's pretty normal. I feel part of FC Barcelona as any other Cule does. As I was growing up, I learned much more, not just about Barcelona's football, but about its history and Catalans history as well.

Aww.. the tard has an emotional story on how he fell in love with his beloved club.. that's so cute.

Its ok booty, you're the resident retarded pest; you're sort of like rats in New York City....A horrible and unsanitary sight but it forms part of the city and portrays its bad side, that's how you relate to the Real Madrid Thread!




Higuain is on the balance right now, and so is Pellegrini, I dont know how much more retarded Perez can get but if he sells Pipita that would be the end of me...for a while at least..

Also read today that Mou would cost us around 16M which is crazy for a manager, that is including his buyout and Pelle's buyout