View Full Version : If you could change any football moment? (Just one)


MikeyM
15-06-2009, 07:19:PM
Imagine you had the power to change just one moment / result in football history - which one would you pick? And how would it have shaped history?

For me it would be in May 1995. Manchester United needed a win to secure the Premier League Championship for a third straight time. Blackburn were at Anfield the same time and United faced West Ham at Upton Park. United battered West Ham but could not break through and despite a loss to Liverpool, Blackburn snatched the title.

If United had won that match, not only would they have won the Premiership, but also would have been bouyant going into the following week's FA Cup Final against Everton. (They lost, and Sir Alex has blamed the deflated mood in the camp)

So by changing the West Ham result, United could well have retained the Double.

theo
15-06-2009, 07:52:PM
the Champions League final in 2003 off the top of my head. such a ride to the final.

Siawash
15-06-2009, 09:17:PM
CL08. Terry penalty miss.

cfdemarco
15-06-2009, 09:24:PM
1994 World Cup Final. Baggio makes the penalty instead of putting it over the top.

nor-rbk
15-06-2009, 09:34:PM
The quarter-final in CL98. Juventus - Rosenborg. Change the score line and we would have been in the semi-finals, that would have been just incredible for a team consisting of semi-professionals with normal jobs beside playing soccer. And maybe Juventus never should have been there at all? There were so many rumours stating that many of the Juve players were doped at that time. I don't know if that was true or not, but I remember there was quite a lot talk about it both in front and after the match.

Arnau
15-06-2009, 09:40:PM
Tamudo

Azrael
15-06-2009, 09:47:PM
93rd minute of the Chelsea-Barca Semi-final 2nd leg, or Terry penalty miss last year.

Xifio
15-06-2009, 11:16:PM
many to choose from ... many penalty shoot-outs to change for Ajax and Holland ... and maybe have Nigeria not score in Africa Cup final in 1994 after Litana gave Zambia the lead ...

but most recently, this one gave me a lot of heartache: Milan v Ajax, 02/03 Champions League Quarterfinal, 2nd leg, Chivu's slip in the 91st min ...

KingPaulV
15-06-2009, 11:18:PM
The whole 1998 World Cup final...

Xifio
15-06-2009, 11:22:PM
The whole 1998 World Cup final...
just make it so Ronaldo's pre-match fit (in his hotel room, I think) never happened ...

KingPaulV
15-06-2009, 11:40:PM
Yeah actually i thought about editing the post to that...hehe ....It was both in his hotel room and in the lockeroom

SCP19O6
15-06-2009, 11:45:PM
UEFA Cup Final 2004-2005, José Alvalade Stadium, in Lisbon: Sporting - CSKA Moscow

75 minutes, CSKA is winning 1-2.

Rogério hits the post, and in the counter-attack, Wagner Love scores the 1-3.

What would I change? Of course, Rogério scoring the 2-2, and probably changing the final winner...

Mus
16-06-2009, 12:13:AM
Nedveds suspension for the cl final in 02/03 season

Run DMB
16-06-2009, 12:21:AM
When Brian Mullan shaved his mustache.

It was a great mustache.

Nimreitz
16-06-2009, 12:30:AM
Red card for Frings and a penalty for the USA in the 50th minute of the 2002 World Cup Quarters.

Second would be that bull**** goal for Shearingham in 2000.

farmboy
16-06-2009, 12:59:AM
Hope you don't mind, I'm going to take this in a slightly different direction.

Fall of 2006 was my last high school soccer season, and we'd had a toughish year, not playing nearly up to our potential. However, the last two games of the year, we started to (finally) find the goalscoring we had lacked all season. Due to the poor season, we had to play the top seeded team in the section tournament (which allows one to qualify for the state tournament).
With only two minutes left in the game, the score was 2 to 1, and statistically and on the field, both teams were dead even. Playing a Rooney-esque second striker, I got the ball on a through ball at the top of the 18 yard box. I had a wide open net, so I took two touches to set the shot, and I can still remember clearly the foot from the defender I thought I'd beat appearing from nowhere to clear the ball from me. Two minutes later, so ended the game and with it, for all intents and purposes, my football career (I don't have time anymore at college). God I wish I could have that second touch back. We could have gone through so easily that day, and had enough momentum to keep rolling right on through the tourney.

Ilaje
16-06-2009, 03:14:AM
many to choose from ... many penalty shoot-outs to change for Ajax and Holland ... and maybe have Nigeria not score in Africa Cup final in 1994 after Litana gave Zambia the lead ...

but most recently, this one gave me a lot of heartache: Milan v Ajax, 02/03 Champions League Quarterfinal, 2nd leg, Chivu's slip in the 91st min ...

Dude that 1994 Nations Cup was the greatest bed time story ever told to me.
For me it would either be Nigeria vs. Italy 1994 World Cup Second Round (They lost the whole thing within the last minutes)....
Or 2006 UCL Final (I still have those what if... dreams).

Sevillista
16-06-2009, 03:28:AM
http://www.terra.es/personal3/muelte/atraco_joaquin2.jpg
I would make that chickensh*t ref in the Spain - Korea 2002 WC quarterfinal make the right call to put Spain into the semis.

Xifio
16-06-2009, 04:24:AM
Dude that 1994 Nations Cup was the greatest bed time story ever told to me.
haha ... don't tell me you weren't even born in 1994 to have seen it?! i was very young, but I have a pretty good memory so I remember it fairly well -- especially the weight of expectation before the match, and the tide of emotions during the final itself ... we were delerious after that early goal, but things went downhill from there on ...

For me it would either be Nigeria vs. Italy 1994 World Cup Second Round (They lost the whole thing within the last minutes)...
I remember this too ... Roby Baggio, the star of World Cup 94, up until he skied the final kick of the tournament ... in Zed, we were all supporting the other African teams of course ... late equalizer for Italy after Amokachi or Amunike had opened the scoring ... then a penalty winner in extra time converted by Roberto Baggio ... promised so much, but it ended up as just another "so close" story for Africa ...

Ilaje
16-06-2009, 04:32:AM
I was born then but to young to remember anything, have really great video of it though.
And the 1994 World Cup, I know it might not have happened but if Nigeria had beaten Italy who knows they might have gotten the final.
This thread just brings pain and regret.

STML1
16-06-2009, 04:37:AM
World Cup 2002, Mexico - US Round of 16

Had Mexico won this game, maybe they could have stepped up against Germany and maybe, just maybe snatched a 3-4th place instead of the embarrassment that ensued. I never felt so deflated and embarrassed after a loss before that.

Nimreitz
16-06-2009, 04:58:AM
http://www.terra.es/personal3/muelte/atraco_joaquin2.jpg
I would make that chickensh*t ref in the Spain - Korea 2002 WC quarterfinal make the right call to put Spain into the semis.

Horrible linemen at the 2002 World Cup screwed us both

Nimreitz
16-06-2009, 05:02:AM
World Cup 2002, Mexico - US Round of 16

Had Mexico won this game, maybe they could have stepped up against Germany and maybe, just maybe snatched a 3-4th place instead of the embarrassment that ensued. I never felt so deflated and embarrassed after a loss before that.

You got dominated, there wasn't a single thing you could change. The German ****er handling the ball on the goal line kept the US out of the semis!

Mus
16-06-2009, 08:48:AM
the whole 2002 tournament was a disgrace

Arnau
16-06-2009, 02:17:PM
Horrible linemen at the 2002 World Cup screwed us both

no he do his job well. ---> $$$

italy and spain where raped by the refs. most clear corruption in football i've seen.

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i also remember of that match joaquin where kicked 1412412412 times. and no one card.

Jaboldinho
16-06-2009, 02:45:PM
That's pretty much the most ridiculous refereeing I've ever seen.

Mus
16-06-2009, 02:59:PM
it was fifa's attempt at raising the profile of asian teams.

Arnau
16-06-2009, 03:19:PM
but koreans eat dogs, what did they expect?

Coruja
16-06-2009, 03:54:PM
That kick in the back of the head of the Italian player... I remember that World Cup very well.. Why? Because Portugal lost against South Korea...

We sucked at this World Cup, but as you can see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzHEChWUP3Y
, we take them out!!! 2 red-cards... The second one a little weird. But, oh well, they deserved more! :mad: Those cheating South Korean players! And the referee took a punch from João Pinto before he left the field! Oh Yeah, with Portugal no one plays. :mrt1:(Y)

Arnau
16-06-2009, 03:57:PM
João Pinto tackle deserve the jail.

Socrates
16-06-2009, 04:48:PM
That's pretty much the most ridiculous refereeing I've ever seen.

About as bad as the Chelsea vs Barca second leg semifinal that just recently passed?:biggrinx:

Hmm not really sure on this one, it might be Totti actually joining us. One of my favorite players that never played for us though came really close if I remember right.

Juventino
16-06-2009, 04:53:PM
I'm with my fellow Juventini, Nedved's yellow card vs. Real Madrid that made him miss the CL final. So sad. :(

Arnau
16-06-2009, 04:54:PM
funny, a madridista joking about refereeing?? lol its like a nazi blaming about jews behaviour.

Jaboldinho
16-06-2009, 05:39:PM
About as bad as the Chelsea vs Barca second leg semifinal that just recently passed?:biggrinx:

Hmm not really sure on this one, it might be Totti actually joining us. One of my favorite players that never played for us though came really close if I remember right.

About as... :clapwap:

Filipower
16-06-2009, 07:18:PM
Brussels. June 28th, 2000.

STML1
16-06-2009, 09:49:PM
You got dominated, there wasn't a single thing you could change. The German ****er handling the ball on the goal line kept the US out of the semis!

If I recall correctly, near the end of the half there was a corner which one of the US players blatantly punched the ball in the box. Clear penalty. Had that been called, it could have been 1-1, and another kind of game.

The theme of 2002 WC was of teams getting ass raped by the refs. The US got paid back against Germany. Highway robbery, but I enjoyed it. (H)

malhadinhas
17-06-2009, 04:26:PM
When Brian Mullan shaved his mustache.

It was a great mustache.

Yes.

thelordspawn
18-06-2009, 06:46:PM
Italy playing football. (national and league) aka corruption and death of football

FF7
18-06-2009, 08:15:PM
1997 Intercontinental Cup Final
Cruzeiro against Borussia Dortmund

bybuti
19-06-2009, 05:12:AM
Tamudo

or Rafael Sobis earlier. :S

Dream Team
19-06-2009, 05:24:AM
1994, Athens.

mrromaniac
19-06-2009, 09:44:AM
I know every Steaua supporter will hate me for bringing back these memories, but:
UEFA Cup 2005/2006 Semi-finals, second leg: Middlesbrough-Steaua. :(

Dytza
19-06-2009, 12:56:PM
About as bad as the Chelsea vs Barca second leg semifinal that just recently passed?:biggrinx:


WTF?! How dare you???

The_Knight
19-06-2009, 02:15:PM
2006 World Cup Final

Zidane doesn't headbutt Materazzi after an insult nobody else heard, and said all the time when playing with scum.

It was the worst possible ending for one of the greatest players' career... and it also possibly cost his country a historic WORLD CUP win.

Xifio
19-06-2009, 10:58:PM
Brussels. June 28th, 2000.
hah, just seeing this now ... agree ... and I'd have to add "Amsterdam. June 29th, 2000." as well ... the two teams that played the most attractive football at the tournament should have gone on to contest the final ...

jatin
21-06-2009, 04:26:AM
2006 World Cup Final

Zidane doesn't headbutt Materazzi after an insult nobody else heard, and said all the time when playing with scum.

It was the worst possible ending for one of the greatest players' career... and it also possibly cost his country a historic WORLD CUP win.

Second that...
and he takes the rightful penalty in place of trezeguet and scores!

simo_yes
21-06-2009, 12:44:PM
2006 world cup... australia vs italy... 93rd minute... penalty from grosso's dive.

if the correct decision was made then by the referee, zidane incident would have never happened

Elber2k3
21-06-2009, 04:22:PM
2002 World Cup final. Neuville not hitting the post, this would have been the 1-0, we would have won the damn match.

Alejandrix
21-06-2009, 07:01:PM
On the Pitch::

Draw against Hull and Arsenal at Anfield this season...i would like to make them wins.

Outside the Pitch:

Hillsborough Tragedy...JF96 YNWA

Arnau
21-06-2009, 08:30:PM
if zidane incident happen its because the bald magician is a violent player and matterazzi knows that very well... wasnt the firts time he lost his mind.

newbie original
21-06-2009, 11:19:PM
On the pitch
1. Zidane red card in 2006

2. CL Final 2007

3. EURO 2000 Semi Final --> Italy fluking their way past the Netherlands.

Off the pitch
1. Heysel --> destroyed Liverpool Football Club
2. Alex Ferguson arrives at Old Trafford.

Ilaje
21-06-2009, 11:29:PM
On the pitch
1. Zidane red card in 2006

2. CL Final 2007

3. EURO 2000 Semi Final --> Italy fluking their way past the Netherlands.

Off the pitch
1. Heysel --> destroyed Liverpool Football Club
2. Alex Ferguson arrives at Old Trafford.

Too painful imagine what might have been:clapwap:

Nady
22-06-2009, 01:52:AM
On the pitch


Off the pitch
1. Heysel --> destroyed Liverpool Football Club
2. Alex Ferguson arrives at Old Trafford.

Haha. Nightmare of most Liverpool fans :P

Rocky
22-06-2009, 02:16:AM
I think someone else might have mentioned this, Nedved's yellow card in Juventus' second leg 3-1 victory over los galacticos in 2003 that caused him to miss the CL final. Dammit, we missed Nedved badly in that final, probably would have won if he'd have been there.

newbie original
22-06-2009, 04:06:AM
I think someone else might have mentioned this, Nedved's yellow card in Juventus' second leg 3-1 victory over los galacticos in 2003 that caused him to miss the CL final. Dammit, we missed Nedved badly in that final, probably would have won if he'd have been there.

You could say the same about Ballack....also in the semi final....in 2002.

silvone
29-06-2009, 08:59:AM
If i could change the Ronaldo transfer to Inter years ago....Now we would had for sure another dominating team in the last decade with 6 or 7 ucl trophies.Barcelona!!!

Mus
29-06-2009, 09:21:AM
2006 world cup... australia vs italy... 93rd minute... penalty from grosso's dive.

if the correct decision was made then by the referee, zidane incident would have never happened

it wasn't really a dive.

lucas neil just made an amateurs tackle and timed it horribly

INFESTA
08-07-2009, 10:25:PM
Our loss at the hands of Greece in the Euro 2004 final. We must have a tremendous supply of positive Karma waiting to come to fruition.

On the other hand, we showed how you can lose a final in your own country and still go out and have a party. (Y)

electrickeeper
14-07-2009, 03:03:AM
May 7, 2006
West Ham 2 v 1 Tottenham

Could have possibly changed the culture of the Sky 4, but some bad lasagna and Yossi Benayoun had other plans.

:(

SCP19O6
14-07-2009, 12:32:PM
On the other hand, we showed how you can lose a final in your own country and still go out and have a party. (Y)

Indeed. It's even been told that a famous club president opened a bottle of champagne after we lost the final...

Johnny_Big
14-07-2009, 01:11:PM
Euro 2004 Final

Greece in no way deserved to win that.

thelordspawn
15-07-2009, 12:13:AM
Euro 2004 Final

Greece in no way deserved to win that.

you are clearly a stupid moron Greece dominated that game. Portugal were **** Greece were amazing. your just jealous cause we were better than you then.

Filipower
15-07-2009, 12:14:AM
Wow, you're a douche!

thelordspawn
15-07-2009, 12:17:AM
it wasn't really a dive.

lucas neil just made an amateurs tackle and timed it horribly

you indeed are a typical Italian dip****. That was the 1 of the worst dives i've ever seen.

Italy bought there way to WC final and Bought the WC itself.

Wow, you're a douche!

how am i the douche bag? When this prick has the audacity to say Portugal should've won when Greece dominated portugal and absolutely no doubt deserved to win that final.

We beat u twice and dominated Portugal both games in first and last game of tournament just man up and accept Portugal Lost because Greece were the better team. This guy Deserves to be badly treated.

Typical Porkchop attitude "douche bags" and yes im aroudn Porkchops all the time and 90% of them are total douche bags cocky stubborn selfish all around douche bags.

Arnau
15-07-2009, 12:20:AM
you are clearly a stupid moron Greece dominated that game. Portugal were **** Greece were amazing. your just jealous cause we were better than you then.

if you watch some match of euro04 will notice greece hasnt dominated a single match but his perfect defensive sistem and counter attacks work fine.

thelordspawn
15-07-2009, 12:26:AM
if you watch some match of euro04 will notice greece hasnt dominated a single match but his perfect defensive sistem and counter attacks work fine.

yes i watched EVERY greece match actually TYVM and they did indeed Dominated most of the games.

All the games they won they absolutely no doubt deserved to win PERIOD. Whether they dominated or not.

I Love just cause Greece was a underdog and won People do whatever they can to discredit Greece for what they did Greece were absolutely flawless other than the Russia game which they didn't give a crap about cause they already were through.

They were the first team EVER to not have a Single goal scored on them in knockout stages and they did that because they had godlike defending and godlike counter attack ability and Airial ability.


I apologize for being so rude in my response to him but when assholes like he say such stupid and totaly FALSE statement like that about my Country it pisses me off.

Arnau
15-07-2009, 12:28:AM
Greece fully deserved but that dont mean they outplayed the rivals.

Filipower
15-07-2009, 12:31:AM
Dude, saying it over and over doesn't make it true. Nobody's taking the trophy away from you, of course that by the fact that you scored more then your opponents, you deserved it... But in no way you dominated ANY game. Particularly the match against Czech Republic and the final.

thelordspawn
15-07-2009, 12:38:AM
go watch the games again our defense was inpenetrable (except against russia where we didnt care)

Our defence was just too damn good and Totaly shutdown our opponents offence and they couldn't do **** except for the odd chance.

so yes we did DOMINATE most of the games. You just dont rememebr it properly.

not saying ALL but most. Only Real trouble we had i admit was against Czech republic.


Regardless we all have our own opinions and bottom line is Greece undoubtedly deserved to win Euro 04 and this guy has no right to say portugal deserved to win cause they didnt.

ok he can say he wished portugal won instead of greece but saying Portugal deserved to win and espically how he said it is an insult to my country and i wont take the Typical Porkchop Douchebagetry.

MaSsiVe
15-07-2009, 12:46:AM
dude regardless of wtf you're saying, the way you say it just takes any credit at all away from your retarded attention-whore self.

Thanks for deducting reputation from this user
(H)!!

Johnny_Big
15-07-2009, 12:48:AM
Holy sh*t.

For a second, let me take my view of that game. Portugal didn't outplay Greece. Greece did 3 shots. And scored a goal in one. But Portugal dominated the game. And were the only team trying to play football. I mean...FOOTBALL.

And taking in count the whole journey (where we, after a fair defeat against Greece in the first match, took out Russia, Spain and England under extreme pressure and playing atractive football, and outplayed Holland)...we deserved that trophy. Greece deserved to win two games in the whole competition. Against Portugal, first game, and against France. Against Spain was a draw, but maybe Spain deserved to win. For example, against the Czechs. That was so unfair.

After Greece winning, I said to a friend next to me "these guys won't even go to WC 2006". Guess what?

Congrats, take the ****** trophy. It's just my point a view, and I'm sure a lot of people share it as well, non-portuguese too. But don't ever call me prick. Cause I didn't call you.

Filipower
15-07-2009, 12:55:AM
You just dont rememebr it properly.

Yeah, sorry, forgot to take my memory pills.

Mus
16-07-2009, 12:59:PM
you indeed are a typical Italian dip****. That was the 1 of the worst dives i've ever seen.


I'm Australian.......

Filipower
16-07-2009, 01:02:PM
lol.

Mus
16-07-2009, 04:52:PM
you are clearly a stupid moron Greece dominated that game. Portugal were **** Greece were amazing. your just jealous cause we were better than you then.

----------------Portugal---Greece
Total shots-------16--------4
Shots on target--5----------1
Ball possession---58%------42%
Corner kicks------10--------1

yeah, domination

Keegan
16-07-2009, 05:58:PM
@ thelordspawn: Calm down, man... we are all patriots when we feel our beloved home country has been slighted (I know I'm like that) but the name-calling, although quite impressive (douchebagetry?) is totally un-neccessary. Making your point without being rude is far more potent and appreciated. Kindly tone it down. Way down.

Anyway, the moment in football history I'd change would no doubt be the moment when the head of Jamaica's football federation, Capt. Horace Burrell, decided to replace Bora Milutinovic with René Simoes, who did the impossible and took us to the World Cup in 1998. René Simoes decided that he did not need the services of our established professionals plying their trades in foreign leagues and brought in young, raw, uncapped players to go to the Azteca to face the might of Mexico in totally alien conditions to anything 65% of the team had ever encountered. After it was suggested that he needed more experienced players, he disagreed, and had to be replaced by his assistant, and two-goal hero from the afore-mentioned WC98, Theodore Whitmore, who promptly restored the experienced players to the team and won all three home games - only to miss out on the hex by goal difference. Damn you, René Simoes! (but thanks for WC98 :D)

Áļéאָ
16-07-2009, 06:05:PM
this lord dude is a phool (H)

oh btw, glad to see fili and the rest of the Portuguese feeling still bitter & hurt. Go cry and wash the tears with CRs bi-homo money./
Is it coincidence that cry starts with CR? Nooooo (H)

Rocky
16-07-2009, 07:20:PM
Italy bought there way to WC final and Bought the WC itself.





Hey do you have an estimate of how much we paid? Always nice to keep track of those things, you know?

MaestroZidane
16-07-2009, 07:37:PM
^^ yes it is, Specially in this economy. You wouldn't want to overpay for the next one :browsmiley:

bybuti
16-07-2009, 08:04:PM
hahahahaha


Thelodrspawn (H)












Totally out of this world. :(

thelordspawn
16-07-2009, 09:48:PM
Hey do you have an estimate of how much we paid? Always nice to keep track of those things, you know?

enough

Rocky
16-07-2009, 10:24:PM
enough

I want to know the dollar amount.

rony31
16-07-2009, 10:52:PM
I'm still waiting for his ban from the Man City thread, btw... Mods... help.

As for the thread, easy choice for me:

2yLA4WBTh1M

So many things about this game that I would change. I think people were easily distracted by how rigged this game actually was because it was such a miraculous incident, and because it was an English team back in the days of Italian domination, just made it so much worse.

1) Before Pool's 2nd goal, the linesman had flagged offside while Liverpool had possession, and for some reason the referee simply waved away the flag and allowed Pool to play on. About a minute later, Smicer scores (albeit Dida's a ******* git and should've had it, but what can you do).

2) Gerrard's dive winning the penalty for the 3-3. And people tend to finger Italians for diving. Classic.

3) Shevchenko managing to hit Dudek twice in extra time with the whole goal gaping at him (7:49ish of the video). I cringe every time I watch that.

4) Dudek taking about 3 steps forward on Pirlo's penalty. I know Juve fans are gonna call me a hypocrite because Dida did similar **** in 2003, but to that I say **** you all :(.

5) Sheva's penalty. Worst penalty he's ever taken at such a crucial time.

thetrooper37
16-07-2009, 11:01:PM
After Greece winning, I said to a friend next to me "these guys won't even go to WC 2006". Guess what?



hahah I said the exact same thing to my Greek friend. He was in the belief that Greece had young, up and coming players that were a lot better than those who won the Euro. :clapwap:

Not to take anything away from the 2004 team though, no matter how you do it (unless you cheat, obviously), winning such a competition is definitely a great achievement.

bybuti
17-07-2009, 06:56:AM
After Greece winning, I said to a friend next to me "these guys won't even go to WC 2006". Guess what?

Sure because we beated them in their first official game as Europian Champions.

This is how we welcomed them:

http://www.tifozatkuqezi.com/foto/img/040904greqia/foto-17.jpg

haha (H)

btw, rivality between Albania and Greece is like Barça and Madrid. lol

the bastards killed an Albanian in Greece because he celebrated this win. :@

cmc211
17-07-2009, 04:46:PM
I'm still waiting for his ban from the Man City thread, btw... Mods... help.

As for the thread, easy choice for me:

2yLA4WBTh1M

So many things about this game that I would change. I think people were easily distracted by how rigged this game actually was because it was such a miraculous incident, and because it was an English team back in the days of Italian domination, just made it so much worse.

1) Before Pool's 2nd goal, the linesman had flagged offside while Liverpool had possession, and for some reason the referee simply waved away the flag and allowed Pool to play on. About a minute later, Smicer scores (albeit Dida's a ******* git and should've had it, but what can you do).

2) Gerrard's dive winning the penalty for the 3-3. And people tend to finger Italians for diving. Classic.

3) Shevchenko managing to hit Dudek twice in extra time with the whole goal gaping at him (7:49ish of the video). I cringe every time I watch that.

4) Dudek taking about 3 steps forward on Pirlo's penalty. I know Juve fans are gonna call me a hypocrite because Dida did similar **** in 2003, but to that I say **** you all :(.

5) Sheva's penalty. Worst penalty he's ever taken at such a crucial time.

Easy choice for me too.

Anyway it is true that team Greece became much better after Euro 2004 than before but they have problem like they couldn't keep their good effort continuously. They did very well on Euro 2008 qualification and now they are quite close to WC 2010.

My attention on WC 2010 is on group 3. Hoping to see Slovakia who is upper Poland, Czech and Northern Ireland(Quite competitive group?). I was surprised that Slovakia scored the most goal in Euro 2008 qualification(But matches vs San Marino affected a lot on that. They were on the group with Germany and Czech).

Áļéאָ
17-07-2009, 09:03:PM
Sure because we beated them in their first official game as Europian Champions.


btw, rivality between Albania and Greece is like Barça and Madrid. lol

the bastards killed an Albanian in Greece because he celebrated this win. :@

fyi half the greek prisons are filled with albanian murderers. Few Hundred thousand Illegal immigrants does that i guess. As for the rivalry, please, the rivalry is only true from the A side. No-one has issues with legal Albanian immigrants. Stuff the "free" albanian media wont tell you. Feel free to neg

bybuti
18-07-2009, 08:30:AM
fyi half the greek prisons are filled with albanian murderers. Few Hundred thousand Illegal immigrants does that i guess. As for the rivalry, please, the rivalry is only true from the A side. No-one has issues with legal Albanian immigrants. Stuff the "free" albanian media wont tell you. Feel free to neg

You got into politics now. Well, I won't continue, even though I have to say more about politics that things related with sport. It would be an endless debate then.

btw, I never neg people that I argue with. Just it would be fair from your side to tell where are you from and why do you hate Albanians so much.

Tosiek
18-07-2009, 09:28:AM
3 July 1974 Poland 0 – 1 West Germany. If the referee wasn't dumb Austrian, we would win. I still can't believe that he let both teams to play in a pool. And why did FIFA let an Austrian to referee this match. That was and still is sad. Shame on FIFA and shame on you Austrian moron.

tinytim
18-07-2009, 03:01:PM
hmmm...

Brazil x France, 1998

Corinthians x Palmeiras, Libertadores, both in 1999 and 2000

tinytim
18-07-2009, 03:02:PM
Sure because we beated them in their first official game as Europian Champions.

This is how we welcomed them:

http://www.tifozatkuqezi.com/foto/img/040904greqia/foto-17.jpg

haha (H)

btw, rivality between Albania and Greece is like Barça and Madrid. lol

the bastards killed an Albanian in Greece because he celebrated this win. :@


I thought it was Turkey x Greece

Áļéאָ
19-07-2009, 10:13:PM
You got into politics now. Well, I won't continue, even though I have to say more about politics that things related with sport. It would be an endless debate then.

btw, I never neg people that I argue with. Just it would be fair from your side to tell where are you from and why do you hate Albanians so much.

I don't hate anyone actually, while what you did in your post is more like..prejudice. Me not saying what you want to hear doesn't mean Im right or wrong, same way it does not mean I hate albanians as you so easily and blatantly have somehow come to conclusion about me. Does It always have to do with origins and nationality? Can't it be, maybe, just maybe, that some of us have an alternative, view on.. things, and understanding, and can perceive things in a way that goes beyond being just.. petty and nationalism based prejudice?
My only wish is for people to become able to see things the way they are and finally manage to point that anger and hate towards those who really deserve it and have put you and your genetically.. similar, national brothers in a world where struggling to exist is more or less the only possibility and way to actually be.

We can continue via PM our convo man, I just hope you don't consider this an attack on you and your fellow albanians by me.
Sorry to the rest for the extreme "offtopicness"

Alejandrix
20-07-2009, 05:55:PM
I'm still waiting for his ban from the Man City thread, btw... Mods... help.

As for the thread, easy choice for me:

2yLA4WBTh1M

So many things about this game that I would change. I think people were easily distracted by how rigged this game actually was because it was such a miraculous incident, and because it was an English team back in the days of Italian domination, just made it so much worse.

1) Before Pool's 2nd goal, the linesman had flagged offside while Liverpool had possession, and for some reason the referee simply waved away the flag and allowed Pool to play on. About a minute later, Smicer scores (albeit Dida's a ******* git and should've had it, but what can you do).

2) Gerrard's dive winning the penalty for the 3-3. And people tend to finger Italians for diving. Classic.

3) Shevchenko managing to hit Dudek twice in extra time with the whole goal gaping at him (7:49ish of the video). I cringe every time I watch that.

4) Dudek taking about 3 steps forward on Pirlo's penalty. I know Juve fans are gonna call me a hypocrite because Dida did similar **** in 2003, but to that I say **** you all :(.

5) Sheva's penalty. Worst penalty he's ever taken at such a crucial time.

Come on!, thats the best UCL final ever. That final was perfect:innocent_smile_1:, All the time i´m watching Liverpool playing a bad game i only thing how we turned around this match.

Btw, about the Gerrard dive, I think is called justice cuz the Nesta´s Hand-ball in first time.