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Bobby
27-06-2009, 12:21:PM
Yes, the final requires a new thread. It's a rule I just made up.

cSWuA-RttGU

United States v Brazil
Sunday June 27, 2009
Ellis Park
TV: Univision!

Little known fact: Brazil is actually a better team than the USA, that is hard to believe.

USA: 30 John McLAUGHLIN; 2 Sean HANNITY, 5 Toby KEITH, 6 Glenn BECK, 32 Karl MALONE; 4 Stone COLD, 8 Larry ELDER, 10 Bill O'REILLY, 19 Richard NIXON (cpt); 11 Chuck NORRIS, 9 Steven SEAGAL
Subs: 1 The UNDERTAKER, 3 Bruce WILLIS, 7 Pat SAJAK, 12 Clint MATHIS, 13 Tom SELLECK, 14 John McCAIN, 15 TUPAC

Speak English, don't be gay, have short hair, respect authority, go to Church and don't hit on Jenny Sanford. She's all mine.

Dytza
27-06-2009, 12:50:PM
Alves to score a hattrick :D

Ilaje
27-06-2009, 02:18:PM
I thought the new FIFA rule allow the US Squad to lay a claim for Bruno Campos, now he's gonna do a Rossi
Back to reality thanks to the little known fact that Brazil is better than you it's either gonna be a 1-0 in Brazil's favor (notice how I'm sucking up writing "favour' like "favor") or USA Spain's them.
Heard they might wear this as a tribute
http://www.onionbag.com/images/products2/10MJUSAHSS0809.jpg
Bobby, Jenny Sanford has been mine for weeks, he was pissed off when she found out and Filipower.

Run DMB
27-06-2009, 03:49:PM
The treachery of the Brazillians is unparalleled. They have infiltrated our newsrooms...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Natalie_Morales%2C_Red_Dress_Collection_2007.jpg/150px-Natalie_Morales%2C_Red_Dress_Collection_2007.jpg

our talent shows...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Paula_Abdul%2C_Red_Dress_Collection_2005.jpg/400px-Paula_Abdul%2C_Red_Dress_Collection_2005.jpg

and even our national team...

http://digitalheadbutt.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/benny-feilhaber.jpg

The Brazillians - they walk among us. Some of them even look like us (white). They've introduced the seductive and subversive dance of the lambada within our borders to destroy the moral fiber of American society.

https://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/9172/1/Lambada.jpg

Be ever cautious, ever vigilant and ever zealous in the pursuit of the enemy.

http://www.crwflags.com/art/mil/misc/cv5011.jpg

Gene Reginato
27-06-2009, 08:09:PM
Who are these "brazilians"?

Pizarro14
27-06-2009, 08:15:PM
this thread needs a little Bruce Springsteen "Born in the USA". I would love for the US to wear something to tribute MJ throughout the game. I really hope if someone scores in the final is Donovan he really deserves it.

Arnau
27-06-2009, 08:17:PM
usa must win that.

yes weekend.

Ilaje
27-06-2009, 08:21:PM
7oVzHm_S0-A&hl=en

Nimreitz
27-06-2009, 08:31:PM
HhfS0tTb7zo

RobbieD_PL
27-06-2009, 09:15:PM
That's Randy Marsh, no?

Bobby
27-06-2009, 11:49:PM
In all seriousness, I'm so proud of the boys for this. I never thought we'd be in a world final.

Pizarro14
28-06-2009, 12:24:AM
In all seriousness, I'm so proud of the boys for this. I never thought we'd be in a world final.

stop it your making me tingle. Donovan must score!!!! and Onyewu needs to show that he can be a TOWER against the top elite players.

Keegan
28-06-2009, 01:06:AM
Some of them even look like us (white).

That explains the Michael Jackson tribute... :mike:

B9Goal
28-06-2009, 02:57:AM
stop it your making me tingle. Donovan must score!!!! and Onyewu needs to show that he can be a TOWER against the top elite players.

Onyewu deserves to at least play in a better league than the Belgian league.

Shiryu
28-06-2009, 03:35:AM
:bouncy:

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 03:52:AM
Onyewu deserves to at least play in a better league than the Belgian league.

Playing for Newcastle really set him back (which is sad because I like that team :()... It's actually great to see him going back to his old self and proving that he can be a great defender :skip_e:

Bobby
28-06-2009, 04:03:AM
Newcastle quickly became a blackhole after Sir Bobby departed.

Ilaje
28-06-2009, 07:35:AM
Who are these "brazilians"?

You asked.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/cerabino/media/brazil%20soccer%20fan.jpg

YoMama_Punk
28-06-2009, 12:36:PM
it would be great for a change that the USA wins. because brazil have won alot already.
upsets are always fun for the neutral fans.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 02:10:PM
That's Randy Marsh, no?

Yeah, that's a Matt and Trey song.

banok
28-06-2009, 04:02:PM
online tv streams about the final in here:
http://stream.forumx.hu/viewtopic.php?t=35&mforum=stream

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 07:35:PM
F*******K those vuvuzelas.. is it me, or are they just as loud??

Watching a feed from England, and they just turned down the crowd noise a bit

farmboy
28-06-2009, 07:42:PM
F*******K those vuvuzelas.. is it me, or are they just as loud??

Watching a feed from England, and they just turned down the crowd noise a bitThey're annoying as f*ck, I can tell you that much.

theo
28-06-2009, 07:43:PM
Dempsey, 1-0! Fulham will win the EPL this year. (H)

PS: why the hell is Brazil wearing long sleeves and Kaka has f*cking gloves too?

Tawalkana
28-06-2009, 07:43:PM
goal

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 07:45:PM
Nice touch by Dempsey... The U.S are continuing their tempo and howard as well.

Pizarro14
28-06-2009, 07:57:PM
Bradley is doing well to contain Kaka.



DONOVAN!!!!!!!!! (H)


IM GETTING GOOSEBUMPS. I'm tingling!!!

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 08:01:PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW

What an F**ink counter attack.. and were 2-0 with a great finish by Donovan

Pizarro14
28-06-2009, 08:04:PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW

What an F**ink counter attack.. and were 2-0 with a great finish by Donovan


Like i said if anyone from the US deserved a goal its Donovan. And in the final against the Brazilians. Bittersweet (H)



edit: Howard is playing the match of his life.

STML1
28-06-2009, 08:04:PM
I gotta say, as much as I dislike Donovan, he had an awesome first touch on that ball. He made it look easy.

That said, what the ****?!

Tawalkana
28-06-2009, 08:11:PM
Now maybe he can gain confidence to shoot the ball cause he needs to start shooting like he did in 02'.

ShearerM4
28-06-2009, 08:14:PM
Wtf is this?!!

Brilliant though, go team USA!!

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 08:20:PM
Dempsey, 1-0! Fulham will win the EPL this year. (H)

PS: why the hell is Brazil wearing long sleeves and Kaka has f*cking gloves too?

It's winter. And Brazil is on the equator.

AMERICA **** YEAH!!! SO LICK MY BUTT AND SUCK ON MY BALLS!!!

thetrooper37
28-06-2009, 08:21:PM
hahah!! Brazil are absolutely clueless going forward. Great counter by the USA for the second goal

Bobby
28-06-2009, 08:21:PM
Is this a dream?!

Arnau
28-06-2009, 08:23:PM
haha i cant belive.

usa ftw

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 08:23:PM
Is this a dream?!

If it is... lets hope we can score two more.. If it's not... lets hope we can score two more
:33vff3o::skip_e:

Joe
28-06-2009, 08:24:PM
I'm dropping by for this alone.

**** yes!

B9Goal
28-06-2009, 08:25:PM
why the hell is Brazil wearing long sleeves and Kaka has f*cking gloves too?

Dude while it is summer time here, it is actually winter time there because they are near the Antarctic Circle.

YoMama_Punk
28-06-2009, 08:26:PM
awesome awesome awesome

Pizarro14
28-06-2009, 08:27:PM
Is this a dream?!



not unless its a wet dream. Because its really happening, do you want me to pinch you?

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 08:29:PM
Dude while it is summer time here, it is actually winter time there because they are near the Antarctic Circle.

Southern Hemisphere, not necessarily that they're near any poles.

Gene Reginato
28-06-2009, 08:31:PM
It's actually a funny game. USA isn't actually playing well. 2 shot 2 goals. Great counter-attacks.

It's becoming a coach vs coach dispute, and there we lose.

Dunga needs to neutralize the counter-attacks and hope some play gets inspiration for the 2nd half.

Kibe Kru
28-06-2009, 08:33:PM
well done so far, USA! you've done a great job exploiting the brazilian full backs advances, and fully deserve the result. Brazil crossing the ball will yield nothing for them as the US defenders are just too good.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 08:34:PM
usa play with both lines of 4 mans very close, they made a wall and the fowards are bloody fast. its almost imposible to beat this team when score firts :S

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 08:34:PM
It's actually a funny game. USA isn't actually playing well. 2 shot 2 goals. Great counter-attacks.

It's becoming a coach vs coach dispute, and there we lose.

Dunga needs to neutralize the counter-attacks and hope some play gets inspiration for the 2nd half.

Dude, USA is playing phenomenal. We're not doing so bad on possession, but we're playing the exact same game plan that we used against Spain. Give you the wings, and head out every cross with our 4 center backs. And then counter with Davies (he's in store for a club upgrade for sure), Altodore, and Donovan. Brazil needs to keep their crosses low, and if they do, they can start scoring. If they keep crossing in the air, they won't get 2 goals.

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 08:36:PM
well then.. Its game on. Looks like our defense was still on the Locker room

Ilaje
28-06-2009, 08:36:PM
America F*CK YEAH! this is incredible you now own all the world titles plus the vuvuzelas at the moment.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 08:38:PM
dani alves and elano should come in. they are good middle shooters, the only way i see brazil scoring a goal, in the air its imposible and is very dificult to enter into usa wall.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 08:38:PM
Wow, I can already tell that the USA is going to play with no passion in the second half. We're just going to wait for Brazil to beat us.

Dytza
28-06-2009, 08:39:PM
What a move by Fabiano!

But I must recognize this USA thim amazed me on the last 2 games. The counter on the second goal was freakin` awesome!

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 08:51:PM
Hahaha, that's a goal.

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 08:51:PM
Seriously.. Howard is a monster. And Brazil are getting closer to scoring that second goal.. Yet now I see that That should have been 2-2..

STML1
28-06-2009, 08:52:PM
That should've been the tie.

dimo
28-06-2009, 08:52:PM
cheat to win, baby! USA! USA! USA! piss off and go samba, brazil!

Kibe Kru
28-06-2009, 08:52:PM
just to make me eat my words, two good chances to Brazil from crosses, first by Lucio, then Kaka (and I think Kaka's header went in)

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 08:55:PM
We are getting killed from the right wing..

Nice shot by Dempsey. Looks like the team is waking up.

B9Goal
28-06-2009, 09:03:PM
2:2 Game on.

Dytza
28-06-2009, 09:05:PM
it looked pretty predictible... USA team looks tired and Brazil looks like they just started the match...

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 09:06:PM
The game changed the minute that whistle blew for the second half. The U.S seems to have lost some of that fire. There is still time, but Brazil are showing why they are a world class team.

I'm disappointed with what I'm seeing

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:09:PM
We couldn't afford to give up a 2-0 lead. Today we are playing the REAL #1 team in the world and we are not ready to beat Spain and Brazil back to back, its just too much to ask and I think that it would put too much pressure on our team anyway going forward. I wish we could win though but its hard to imagine winning after blowing the wonderful 2 goal lead. This game is driving me crazy. Sasha K doesnt deserve to be on the field.

Elber2k3
28-06-2009, 09:15:PM
**** you Brazil :(

STML1
28-06-2009, 09:15:PM
Ouch.

Pizarro14
28-06-2009, 09:17:PM
unf*cking believable. 2-0 now 3-2 Brazil. I mean they are a world class team you can't just be overconfident going till the second half with another 45 mins left. DAMN IT!!!!



edit: I leave the house for 25mins to get more beers and I come back and they are losing 3-2 and CASEY IS ON THE FIELD?? this isn't rugby!!!

Arnau
28-06-2009, 09:17:PM
the football won, but i would like to see a team like USA becoming the champion :icon_spyed:

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:22:PM
It was easy to see it coming, we are just running out of gas, Brazil is a much better team than Spain, yes, 99% of the time I say we should hold a 2-0 lead but Brazil is not ready to let the US beat them yet. No big deal, Brazil had to work their a** off to win this game.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 09:23:PM
luisfa early goal was key.

Bobby
28-06-2009, 09:25:PM
Bradley and his ******* bunker bull****. Has that ever ******* worked Bob?! You've gotten us ass ****ed four times with it this year alone. Think about that.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:25:PM
(and I think Kaka's header went in)

It did.

Classic Bob Bradley. Sits on his hands and makes no subs until Brazil equalize. Just watches as his tired players huff and puff up the field like a bunch of chain smokers running a marathon, no longer closing down their men. And then.... we've closed the book on the Beasley era this tournament, can we please close the book on the Casey and Kljestan eras too? What a bunch of bums.

Other than that I didn't think we played too bad. Brazil made the right adjustments at halftime and in the second half, and Bob Bradley let them do it. Congrats to Brazil.

Bobby
28-06-2009, 09:28:PM
This saves his job, actually. We may be the only finalists in history with a losing record. 5 played, 2 won, 3 lost.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:29:PM
Look, we were without our best midfielder today, that was probably the difference. I cant believe we played as well as we did without Bradley in the game. Be proud, No one should talk any crap about the US because I dont know any team in Europe or anywhere else that have gone 2-0 on them in a major competition. We are just to inexperienced to finish. We are a very very young team.

Avalanche
28-06-2009, 09:29:PM
AMERICA, F*CK Y.................
















































































Oh. :(

Gene Reginato
28-06-2009, 09:29:PM
Like I said, USA was playing very wel :)

Regardless, it was a lesson on how an inferior team should play: Cool headed. Exploit the other team weakness and stick with the plan.

In the end it wasn't the tactics that won the game. It was the talent/enthusiasm. It would be great if Brazil learned how to play tactically, though.

farmboy
28-06-2009, 09:30:PM
good, i'm not the only one who thought bradley was being a dumbass. spector, as much as i'm a huge fan of his, just had nothing left the last twenty minutes, while demerit and onyewu were looking a little leggy themselves. what was the point in subbing out strikers and attacking mids when the ball wasn't even making it that far up the field?

B9Goal
28-06-2009, 09:30:PM
USA should be disappointed because they horribly exposed on the flanks. They were letting Maicon and Robinho run free throughout the whole match.

Bobby
28-06-2009, 09:30:PM
In the end it wasn't the tactics that won the game.

No, tactics lost the game.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:34:PM
I know it saves his job, and I think Bradley does a really good job game planning for teams. His problems are recognizing talent: I thought Adu needed to come on for Davies when it was 2-1 to run his ass off up top, Kljestan clearly can't play at any sort of international level, and Casey is absolutely horrendous; and making adjustments. Lippi made him look like an amateur with his adjustments (which BB didn't respond to), and now Dunga did the same. I can't believe you can just sit back and let Brazil go ultra attacking, and not make a single change. ESPECIALLY when your players are that tired.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 09:36:PM
Regardless, it was a lesson on how an inferior team should play: Cool headed. Exploit the other team weakness and stick with the plan.

disagree.

speculative football lost (again). but with the players usa has got they cant play in another better way IMO.

congratulations to both teams.

Gene Reginato
28-06-2009, 09:36:PM
Best player of the tournament IMO: Lucio.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:37:PM
USA should be disappointed because they horribly exposed on the flanks. They were letting Maicon and Robinho run free throughout the whole match.

That was what we did against Spain too. The plan is to let them have the flanks, but beat the strikers to every cross. Spector and Bocanegra aren't classic fullbacks, they're center backs, so we basically were defending crosses with 4 big aggressive center backs. What can and did beat that tactic, which Dunga clearly mentioned at half, are low crosses, deep crosses, and running inside from the flanks.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 09:38:PM
usa were a bit lucky against spain, they miss some great chances and ramos gift you a goal xD.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:40:PM
LOL at Dempsey getting the Bronze Ball. Give me a ******* break. He showed all of us USA fans what we've been waiting to see for the past 3 years, he kind of made "the leap" in these last 3 games, but Donovan (or Howard) was our best player, and I don't think a USA player should have won any of those awards anyway.

Arnau
28-06-2009, 09:41:PM
dempsey fully deserved, he made the transition of midfield-attack very well and score some important goals. he is probably the most important player in USA team.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:46:PM
usa were a bit lucky against spain, they miss some great chances and ramos gift you a goal xD.

There is no such thing as luck, I never heard a bad team standing around talking about how lucky they are. Brazil had more space on the corners than Spain had, we always contested every cross and shot against Spain, we didnt do that against Brazil and Brazil is a better team than Spain as well. People need to wake up, WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PUSH FORWARD FOR 90 MINUTES AGAINST BRAZIL, this doesnt mean we are not a good team because about 95% of the teams in the world do not have the talent to attack Brazil and keep them on their heals.

Gene Reginato
28-06-2009, 09:46:PM
Donovan was better than Dempsey in this tournament.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:47:PM
LOL at Dempsey getting the Bronze Ball. Give me a ******* break. He showed all of us USA fans what we've been waiting to see for the past 3 years, he kind of made "the leap" in these last 3 games, but Donovan (or Howard) was our best player, and I don't think a USA player should have won any of those awards anyway.

Why, are you a sellout, we dont deserve anything? Are you retarded?

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:48:PM
I can't stand John Harkes and Alexi Lalas. These former players who played for the US National Team when we sucked and they were just happy to be on the same field as the big teams are still in the "we're just happy to be here" mentality. Well the fans and current players aren't just ******* happy to be here. The former players think these USA players are just as good as they were, when the truth is these guys are 10 times better.

I'm proud of our team and I'm optimistic for the World Cup. I don't think we can beat a talented team with a great coach, but we can advance to the knockout stage, and then who knows. Donovan and Dempsey can play at the highest level. DeMerit has won his place in the first team in my opinion, as has Davies. I think Davies might move to a club in a bigger league soon, because he clearly can be a valuable striker. His work rate and pace are very good. Sometimes he lacks that last touch, but he made a great assist to Donovan for the second goal too.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:50:PM
Why, are you a sellout, we dont deserve anything? Are you retarded?

It's an award for the entire Tournament, and I don't think a US player has been one of the 3 best in the Tournament. If one was, then it was Donovan or Howard. I'm a sellout? Because I evaluate my national team honestly? **** off.

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 09:51:PM
I hope we take out our frustration of a loss against the next team we play, not counting the gold cup of course.

Gutted about this loss, but as has been said.. bradley got it wrong in the second half. No reason to see your guys getting outplayed and wait till the last minutes to make changes

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 09:52:PM
Why, are you a sellout, we dont deserve anything? Are you retarded?

Oh, and I'm sorry, I thought that saying Dempsey "made the leap" was an indication that I wasn't trying to say that he played poorly. He played very well, just not top 3 player in the Tournament. And yes, we deserve our silver medal cocksucker, but not charity awards.

Nady
28-06-2009, 09:52:PM
Congrats Brazil. They deserve it.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 09:54:PM
It's an award for the entire Tournament, and I don't think a US player has been one of the 3 best in the Tournament. If one was, then it was Donovan or Howard. I'm a sellout? Because I evaluate my national team honestly? **** off.

You F*** Off, you sound like an angry fool, blaming bradley, hating on Dempsey, Fricken cheesehead.

MaestroZidane
28-06-2009, 09:58:PM
I can't stand John Harkes and Alexi Lalas. These former players who played for the US National Team when we sucked and they were just happy to be on the same field as the big teams are still in the "we're just happy to be here" mentality. Well the fans and current players aren't just ******* happy to be here. The former players think these USA players are just as good as they were, when the truth is these guys are 10 times better.

I'm proud of our team and I'm optimistic for the World Cup. I don't think we can beat a talented team with a great coach, but we can advance to the knockout stage, and then who knows. Donovan and Dempsey can play at the highest level. DeMerit has won his place in the first team in my opinion, as has Davies. I think Davies might move to a club in a bigger league soon, because he clearly can be a valuable striker. His work rate and pace are very good. Sometimes he lacks that last touch, but he made a great assist to Donovan for the second goal too.

Completely agree. There was a time when such statements could be made of our team and they would be right in saying so... But those days are over.

As of now, my expectations for what can be achieved have increased, I just don't want to see Bradley repeat the same mistake over and over again.

We lost and got beat by a better team... yet I'm still Proud of our players.

Bobby
28-06-2009, 10:01:PM
You F*** Off, you sound like an angry fool, blaming bradley, hating on Dempsey, Fricken cheesehead.

He's right. Donovan and Howard were better. He's not "hating on" Clint Dempsey, he's pointing out that two players were more deserving, and they were.

Bob Bradley cost us the match, fact. You don't bunker against Brazil, you don't. How did we expose Brazil? Getting the ball out wide, exposing them, not letting their megastars run and run at our tired back four, particularly considering that back four wasn't protected by a defensive midfielder.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 10:01:PM
You F*** Off, you sound like an angry fool, blaming bradley, hating on Dempsey, Fricken cheesehead.

I'm not ******* hating on Dempsey, you're just a god damn imbecile with a 1st grade level of reading comprehension. Bradley is clearly somewhat culpable, as numerous other people have stated. He sat on his ass and didn't make a single adjustment until it was too late. If you really want to think that coaches don't play a role in soccer because the coach for you ****ty U-14 team didn't do anything, then fine, but don't try to get one over on someone who clearly knows a hell of a lot more than you.

And you're not angry about blowing a 2-0 lead? Just happy to be there! We learned a lesson!

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 10:34:PM
I'm not ******* hating on Dempsey, you're just a god damn imbecile with a 1st grade level of reading comprehension. Bradley is clearly somewhat culpable, as numerous other people have stated. He sat on his ass and didn't make a single adjustment until it was too late. If you really want to think that coaches don't play a role in soccer because the coach for you ****ty U-14 team didn't do anything, then fine, but don't try to get one over on someone who clearly knows a hell of a lot more than you.

And you're not angry about blowing a 2-0 lead? Just happy to be there! We learned a lesson!

What do you know about me, I grew up in Florida and played soccer my whole life and in college, how do you even play soccer in Wisconsin anyway, its frozen. I don't play on a under 14 team. I am an adult who owns his own business and negotiates thousands of dollars in principal off mortgages in the State of Florida to help bail out the depressed market. Don't get it twisted, I am not a little boy and I will go toe to toe with anyone on any subject. I am not happy with the loss, but I am not going to whine because we couldn't beat Brazil. We had to beat a solid team(Egypt) 3-0, and then Spain and Brazil back to back, who does that?, yes we had a chance but how many teams do you think could actually pull that off. Also it keeps us level headed going into the World Cup, A confederation Cup win would only build tremendous pressure going into WC 2010, I think we can win the world cup, I think this tournament proves that we can beat anyone but the chances of winning the Confed Cup and World Cup back to back would have been slim to none. The final result will make the team hungry, you could see tears at the end and they will never forget how that made them feel, this should set us up for a good run in the CUP. But of course you are the expert that lives in the frozen Tundra of Wisconsin, a hot bed for athletic talent and sports knowledge,(LOL)

ShearerM4
28-06-2009, 10:43:PM
Chuck fails at logic and at paragraphs?!

Bobby
28-06-2009, 10:43:PM
What do you know about me, I grew up in Florida and played soccer my whole life and in college, how do you even play soccer in Wisconsin anyway, its frozen. I don't play on a under 14 team. I am an adult who owns his own business and negotiates thousands of dollars in principal off mortgages in the State of Florida to help bail out the depressed market. Don't get it twisted, I am not a little boy and I will go toe to toe with anyone on any subject. I am not happy with the loss, but I am not going to whine because we couldn't beat Brazil. We had to beat a solid team(Egypt) 3-0, and then Spain and Brazil back to back, who does that?, yes we had a chance but how many teams do you think could actually pull that off. Also it keeps us level headed going into the World Cup, A confederation Cup win would only build tremendous pressure going into WC 2010, I think we can win the world cup, I think this tournament proves that we can beat anyone but the chances of winning the Confed Cup and World Cup back to back would have been slim to none. The final result will make the team hungry, you could see tears at the end and they will never forget how that made them feel, this should set us up for a good run in the CUP. But of course you are the expert that lives in the frozen Tundra of Wisconsin, a hot bed for athletic talent and sports knowledge,(LOL)

Since he's from Wisconsin he's not allowed to talk about soccer? So then, using your logic, my North Carolina-born self knows more about soccer than you simply because I'm from North Carolina, a superior soccer state than Florida? North Carolina has three professional teams, they make a profit. Florida has one that BLEEDS money.

Take that somewhere else.

And for the record, college soccer is terrible, but UW itself has more titles than Florida as a state. Fact.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 10:58:PM
What do you know about me, I grew up in Florida and played soccer my whole life and in college, how do you even play soccer in Wisconsin anyway, its frozen. I don't play on a under 14 team. I am an adult who owns his own business and negotiates thousands of dollars in principal off mortgages in the State of Florida to help bail out the depressed market. Don't get it twisted, I am not a little boy and I will go toe to toe with anyone on any subject. I am not happy with the loss, but I am not going to whine because we couldn't beat Brazil. We had to beat a solid team(Egypt) 3-0, and then Spain and Brazil back to back, who does that?, yes we had a chance but how many teams do you think could actually pull that off. Also it keeps us level headed going into the World Cup, A confederation Cup win would only build tremendous pressure going into WC 2010, I think we can win the world cup, I think this tournament proves that we can beat anyone but the chances of winning the Confed Cup and World Cup back to back would have been slim to none. The final result will make the team hungry, you could see tears at the end and they will never forget how that made them feel, this should set us up for a good run in the CUP. But of course you are the expert that lives in the frozen Tundra of Wisconsin, a hot bed for athletic talent and sports knowledge,(LOL)

You sound like a real winner, I don't know why I would ever dare get in a war of words with you, you're a triple threat! Financial titan, soccer stud, and poet.

Go to any US Soccer Forum on the internet and people will be bitching about Bob Bradley's awful adjustments.

And yeah, I have no idea how I could possibly know anything about soccer living in a city with a climate virtually identical to Berlin. Clearly it's just too cold for any good soccer players to develop in such frigid conditions. Orlando's climate is similar to that hotbed of talent: Cairo.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 10:59:PM
Since he's from Wisconsin he's not allowed to talk about soccer? So then, using your logic, my North Carolina-born self knows more about soccer than you simply because I'm from North Carolina, a superior soccer state than Florida? North Carolina has three professional teams, they make a profit. Florida has one that BLEEDS money.

Take that somewhere else.

And for the record, college soccer is terrible, but UW itself has more titles than Florida as a state. Fact.

Florida schools do not care about soccer, they are heavlily focused on US football but there is a ton of talent from the state that goes elsewhere to play and its usually over seas or the US program in Bradenton. When I played in college Florida didnt even have a team and Fl St. barely had one. When I played youth soccer , Florida was one of the deepest pipelines of talent along with Cali and Wisconsin wasnt even on the map.

Quote "Since he's from Wisconsin he's not allowed to talk about soccer?"

Not true, he can talk all he wants, just dont single me out as having a 1st grade education and playing on a under 14 team. I have a college degree and run a solid business in one of the most depressed stated in the US.

Ilaje
28-06-2009, 11:00:PM
What do you know about me, I grew up in Florida and played soccer my whole life and in college, how do you even play soccer in Wisconsin anyway, its frozen. I don't play on a under 14 team. I am an adult who owns his own business and negotiates thousands of dollars in principal off mortgages in the State of Florida to help bail out the depressed market. Don't get it twisted, I am not a little boy and I will go toe to toe with anyone on any subject. I am not happy with the loss, but I am not going to whine because we couldn't beat Brazil. We had to beat a solid team(Egypt) 3-0, and then Spain and Brazil back to back, who does that?, yes we had a chance but how many teams do you think could actually pull that off. Also it keeps us level headed going into the World Cup, A confederation Cup win would only build tremendous pressure going into WC 2010, I think we can win the world cup, I think this tournament proves that we can beat anyone but the chances of winning the Confed Cup and World Cup back to back would have been slim to none. The final result will make the team hungry, you could see tears at the end and they will never forget how that made them feel, this should set us up for a good run in the CUP. But of course you are the expert that lives in the frozen Tundra of Wisconsin, a hot bed for athletic talent and sports knowledge,(LOL)

:coffe-anim: It's not impossible just highly unlikely considering USA is not in the World Cup yet and there will be 24 other teams there.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 11:06:PM
You sound like a real winner, I don't know why I would ever dare get in a war of words with you, you're a triple threat! Financial titan, soccer stud, and poet.

Go to any US Soccer Forum on the internet and people will be bitching about Bob Bradley's awful adjustments.

And yeah, I have no idea how I could possibly know anything about soccer living in a city with a climate virtually identical to Berlin. Clearly it's just too cold for any good soccer players to develop in such frigid conditions.

Not even close to being a titan, just trying to survive but at the same time I am not stupid, this was my point. Yes, I know on bigsoccer and other forums they are calling for Bradleys head but after making the final of this tournament he wont be fired so bitching wont get us anywhere and also it was his coaching in The Egypt and Spain game that put us in a position to win, not every move but most of them. Would I like a different coach? yes, but when you get a 2-0 lead you should win, dont blame the coach.

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 11:07:PM
Florida schools do not care about soccer, they are heavlily focused on US football but there is a ton of talent from the state that goes elsewhere to play and its usually over seas or the US program in Bradenton. When I played in college Florida didnt even have a team and Fl St. barely had one. When I played youth soccer , Florida was one of the deepest pipelines of talent along with Cali and Wisconsin wasnt even on the map.

Quote "Since he's from Wisconsin he's not allowed to talk about soccer?"

Not true, he can talk all he wants, just dont single me out as having a 1st grade education and playing on a under 14 team. I have a college degree and run a solid business in one of the most depressed stated in the US.

Then don't make statements one would expect from a 14 year old.

And by the way, I grew up playing with D1 soccer players through youth/club and high school, and had an opportunity to play college soccer which I turned down. Being in a "hotbed" of talent doesn't have anything to do with knowing anything about soccer. Some of the "best" players I ever played with didn't know **** about the big picture. They just knew what to do when they got the ball.

Bobby
28-06-2009, 11:09:PM
Not even close to being a titan, just trying to survive but at the same time I am not stupid, this was my point. Yes, I know on bigsoccer and other forums they are calling for Bradleys head but after making the final of this tournament he wont be fired so bitching wont get us anywhere and also it was his coaching in The Egypt and Spain game that put us in a position to win, not every move but most of them. Would I like a different coach? yes, but when you get a 2-0 lead you should win, dont blame the coach.

It was also his coaching that got bollocked by Costa Rica, El Salvador, Brazil and Italy.

El Salvador.

EL SALVADOR!

Nimreitz
28-06-2009, 11:10:PM
Not even close to being a titan, just trying to survive but at the same time I am not stupid, this was my point. Yes, I know on bigsoccer and other forums they are calling for Bradleys head but after making the final of this tournament he wont be fired so bitching wont get us anywhere and also it was his coaching in The Egypt and Spain game that put us in a position to win, not every move but most of them. Would I like a different coach? yes, but when you get a 2-0 lead you should win, dont blame the coach.

I'm not going to blame players who took a 2-0 lead and then got worn out and the subs weren't coming. Anyway, I think we can bury this, clearly we were just on different wavelengths here. I think Bradley has done a really good job game planning; with the exception of the first Brazil game we came out strong the entire tournament. Bradley's problem is that he doesn't know who his best players are, and he can't make mid-game adjustments. He lets his counterpart completely change the game and the USA continues to do the same thing.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 11:14:PM
I'm not going to blame players who took a 2-0 lead and then got worn out and the subs weren't coming. Anyway, I think we can bury this, clearly we were just on different wavelengths here. I think Bradley has done a really good job game planning; with the exception of the first Brazil game we came out strong the entire tournament. Bradley's problem is that he doesn't know who his best players are, and he can't make mid-game adjustments. He lets his counterpart completely change the game and the USA continues to do the same thing.

Fair Enough.

jschuck12001
28-06-2009, 11:16:PM
Chuck fails at logic and at paragraphs?!

LOL, I really don't pay attention to paragraph structure or even correct punctuation when pm'ing or texting or posting, sorry you are right. When it comes to logic I must disagree.

jimorrizon
29-06-2009, 12:08:AM
Brazil brazil brazil ! ! ! ! !

Tawalkana
29-06-2009, 08:25:AM
can't wait till Edu, Jones, Ching, Cherundolo all get back on teh A squad from their injuries

silvone
29-06-2009, 08:37:AM
One of the greatest matches that i have ever seen.Congratulations to both teams USA and especially Brazil!!!

D1gooid
29-06-2009, 09:12:AM
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/407/luisfabianonoyoucant.jpg

Bobby
29-06-2009, 10:21:AM
A ball landed in the Brazilian party tonight. Apperently it was Sacha Kljestan passing it to them again.

Keegan
29-06-2009, 11:04:AM
Firstly, congratulations to the USA for beating Brazil 2-0 over 45 minutes. The second goal in particular was as good a team goal as any I've seen. You guys represented CONCACAF and yourselves very well, and should be proud of that. That said, I will agree that Bob Bradley made tactical errors in the second half.

Donovan's goal came because Brazil was throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the US, and got caught on the break - but he didn't seem to me to make any adjustments for the onslaught that I think everyone else expected in the second half. Switching Kaka to wide left and putting Robinho in the middle of the pitch where he could benefit from the space that Gilberto Silva and Maicon were quite generously given was a masterstroke by Dunga.

The only US player that disappointed me was Spector - I think he had a poor game, but I do take into consideration that he was playing against Brazil. I was particularly impressed with Charlie Davis and Ricardo Clark, two players I had no prior knowledge of. Good game, and losing 3-2 to Brazil in a final is nothing to be ashamed of.

Cheers.

Nimreitz
29-06-2009, 04:27:PM
I didn't think Spector was terrible for the first half, but he definitely needed to come off in about the 60th minute. Starting then, Brazil wasn't getting stopped on that flank.

Nimreitz
29-06-2009, 05:06:PM
ESPN article hints that Landon Donovan sees La Liga as the ideal destination for him. He is a fluent Spanish speaker, and his skills definitely match La Liga more than any other top league, so this would be excellent. His contract is up after this MLS season, so he would be free in the January window. Not sure which clubs could use him, but let's hope he can play for one of the better ones.

MaestroZidane
29-06-2009, 05:27:PM
He'd be smart to make that move. Like I said in another thread. He does the technical ability and speed that would fit very well in La Liga.

jschuck12001
29-06-2009, 06:11:PM
Guys, I respect everyone's opinion on the boards but I have been watching the US for a long long time and we don't have a bag full of tricks, we cant bring in a second wave of players and switch our style of play. This is one of the big issues with the team. We are a counter attacking team and the problem with that is so are the Brazilians so we had to be very careful. When I watched that game I saw us play the same way we did against Spain except Bocanegra and Spector didn't close of the corners and contest the crosses and Gooch and Demerit weren't animalistic in the middle, to me that was the difference, and of course we were missing our best midfielder but excuses are like a holes. I hope that loss really bothered us, I hope it haunts us so bad that we are so focused come WC time, we need to be hungry and I'm not sure that winning that tournament ahead of the World Cup wouldn't have done more harm than good. Our guys aren't ready for that kind of pressure, not yet, and they would absolutely be expected to do huge things at the World Cup if they had won that game. Its like Bradley said the other day, you have to take steps and we are doing that but you dont just skip from being a solid team to world class even though the foreign media wants to push that issue as to why we cant.

night
29-06-2009, 06:34:PM
Conor Casey plays like a f*cking amateur and never does anything productive for the United States (maybe except for that run that was unfairly called offside against Spain.) When was the last time he scored for the US? Also, how does get to come on in a final instead of a brilliant player like Freddy Adu?

Run DMB
29-06-2009, 10:43:PM
I just neg repped jimorrizon via a BlackBerry. Isn't technology great?

Q: How many Chivas USA players played vs. Brazil?

A: One too many.

Filipower
30-06-2009, 04:23:PM
Luis Fabiano, man.

Pre-Porto - Amazing.
Porto - Sh*t.
Post-Porto - Amazing.


**** you. :(