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mogolos
22-09-2009, 01:55:PM
By Greg Duke
For CNN
LONDON, England (CNN) -- Juventus took on Torino in the Turin derby last weekend, and in honor of that we have scoured the world to bring you 10 other local derbies that stir the passions of those involved.

1) CELTIC v RANGERS -- Glasgow, Scotland
These two are the bitterest of bitter rivals. Not only are they divided by football, but by religion as well, with Rangers taking their support from the Protestant community and Celtic the Catholic community. The hostility has become so intense that both clubs have asked their fans to stop singing the sectarian songs that had become commonplace on match days.
To add fuel to the fire, they are consistently the only two teams who challenge for the Scottish title, with the make-up of the Premier League ensuring they face each other four times in a season, not including cups. Despite both clubs attracting some top foreign stars, the helter-skelter nature of the fixture has not been diluted over time, as confirmed by the number of dismissals over the years.
2) ROMA v LAZIO -- Rome, Italy
Undoubtedly the fiercest derby match in Italy, these two rivals really hate each other. Violence in and around the Olympic Stadium between the sets of supporters, and the police, has become an all-too-common occurrence in recent seasons. Both teams hate the perceived arrogance from the Northern cities (Milan, Turin) -- but they loathe each other more.
Roma take their support from a traditional working-class fan base, while Lazio's support tends to come from the wealthier districts. The historical political differences between the fans is another reason for this rivalry. Lazio's supporters, in general, followed right-wing ideals while the Roma fans leaned more to the left.

3) BOCA JUNIORS v RIVER PLATE -- Buenos Aires, Argentina
Although by no means the most "local" derby in South America (the clubs are about 7km apart), it is undeniably the most intense. The rivalry, hatred and violence involved are based on social class and money.
Both clubs were founded in the poor district of Buenos Aires called La Boca, but River Plate moved to a wealthier area called Nunez in the 1930s, heightening the animosity between the clubs. Boca Juniors' stadium is known as "La Bombonera" (The Box of Chocolates) because of its layout. The steep stands and the lack of a running track makes for a particularly intimidating atmosphere.
4) AL AHLY v ZAMALEK -- Cairo, Egypt
Arguably Africa's most passionate derby, this match brings together two of the continent's most successful clubs. Their rivalry is so strong that foreign referees are always brought in for the derby games and, following a number of violent incidents, matches between the two have been moved to the 75,000 capacity Cairo International Stadium. On the pitch, Al Ahly currently have the upper hand, winning the last four league titles.
5) GALATASARAY v FENERBAHCE -- Istanbul, Turkey
The Bosphorus separates the city of Istanbul into a European side and an Asian side. Galatasaray, on the European side, have traditionally been the wealthier of the two clubs, while Fenerbahce, on the Asian side, have a largely working-class following. However, in recent years, Fenerbahce have attracted a number of wealthy fans who have pumped money into the club, thus unbalancing the equilibrium. Nowadays, there is nothing to choose between them on and off the pitch. The last five league titles have alternated between the two clubs and both clubs have won 17 Turkish championships.
6) OLYMPIAKOS v PANATHINAIKOS -- Athens, Greece
This is the derby between the two giants of Greek football, although the rivalry between the two also exists in basketball, Greece's national sport. In the past, Olympiakos, from the port area of Piraeus, used to represent the working class, while Panathinaikos represented the upper-class suburbs of Athens. Nowadays, the situation has evened out. However, on the pitch, Olympiakos are the dominant club, having won 11 of the last 12 league titles, including the last four in a row.
7) RED STAR BELGRADE v PARTIZAN BELGRADE -- Belgrade, Serbia
This is a relatively new fixture: both clubs were founded in 1945, but what they lack in age, they make up for in passion. Partizan was founded as the football section of the central club of the former Yugoslavian Army, while Red Star was founded as the civilians' club. Red Star, or Crvena Zvezda as they are now known, have traditionally been the more successful, achieving the ultimate of winning the European Cup in 1991.
8) WYDAD v RAJA -- Casablanca, Morocco
These two are the biggest clubs in Morocco and violence between the fans often mars these fixtures. Wydad used to dominate honors, but in recent seasons Raja have enjoyed more success. N.B. Raja means "hope" and Wydad means "love," although there is certainly no love between the rivals when they face each other!
9) PALMEIRAS v CORINTHIANS -- Sao Paulo, Brazil
Another derby that has been going for nearly 100 years. Corinthians used to be the only club in the city, but a group of Italian members broke away to form Palmeiras, earning the nickname of the "betrayers" by Corinthians fans. Morumbi is the biggest stadium in Sao Paulo and all the derbies are played there, although the Pacaembu stadium, which hosts many Corinthians matches, is also used for the occasion.
10) PENAROL v NACIONAL -- Montevideo, Uruguay
One of the oldest derby matches in the world, with both clubs being formed in the 1890s. The two most honored clubs in Uruguay, they share a remarkable 85 Uruguayan league titles and eight Copa Libertadores championships between them. The derby is always played in the Centenario Stadium, with a capacity of almost 74,000, although Nacional also have their own ground in a different neighborhood of the city.

source CNN

I personally agree but I could add some more...

Dipanjan
22-09-2009, 02:30:PM
East Bengal represents Bangals hailing from Eastern part of Bengal , but they also have several supporters hailing from Western part of Bengal. Mohun Bagan represents Ghotis generally belonging to people of Western part of Bengal and they also have some supporters hailing from Eastern part of Bengal. East Bengal Fans celebrates their Win by eating Hilsa Fish and Mohun Bagan Fans celebrates win by eating Prawns. With the progress of time both teams now have fans belonging to various communities and regions of India.

I know what this means for us. For a day Football becomes the life blood of the Country. :)

bybuti
22-09-2009, 02:49:PM
No FC Barcelona - Real Madrid. :O:O :icon_spin:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Dipanjan
22-09-2009, 03:01:PM
Derby?

Elber2k3
22-09-2009, 03:02:PM
It's more a rivalry than a derby isn't it?

bybuti
22-09-2009, 03:07:PM
lol

If you call derby only those games when 2 teams from the same city play against each other, then you are right, but FC Barcelona vs Real Madrid is the biggest football match. The whole country (and more) live for it, if on these cases that we got here the whole city.

btw, where is AC Milan vs FC Inter then? lol

mogolos
22-09-2009, 03:48:PM
@ bybuti: If u read more carefully, u should read the sentence in the start "local derbies". It's too clear to be invisible! lol

Nonelito
22-09-2009, 03:55:PM
Steaua Bucharest vs. Dinamo Bucharest!

Zlatan
22-09-2009, 03:55:PM
I'm missing:
AC Milan - Internazionale
Liverpool - Everton
Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal
AS Roma - Lazio Roma

Elber2k3
22-09-2009, 04:03:PM
Roma - Lazio is listed on 2. ;)

Tosiek
22-09-2009, 04:35:PM
Cracovia Kraków vs Wisła Kraków. Unique atmosphere.:)

Bobby
22-09-2009, 06:02:PM
Arsenal - Spurs has lost a lot of it's luster over the years. Plus it could be argued that Spurs carry a more intense hatred for Chelsea anyway.

Dipanjan is right as well. The Calcutta derby is a big one that not a lot of people outside of South Asia are aware of.

A newer one is Bunyodkor - Pakhtakor, the Tashkent derby.

curswine
22-09-2009, 11:58:PM
I wouldn't call some of them the most famous worldwide, although the enormity of some of the matches should warrant the attention. Raja - Wydad for example big match but seriously outside of Morocco their isn't too much interest. Their have been a lot of derbies posted above which could be chucked into the mix instead, but I think maybe the article was trying to be a little less biased towards just the one country.

Elber2k3
23-09-2009, 12:07:AM
I'd like to add a derby that isn't famous nowadays, but it is one the biggest derbies in Germany.
Sachsen/Chemie Leipzig - Lokomotive/VfB Leipzig.
These guys hate each other so much that they would kill each other if there wouldn't be any police. They are playing in lower divisions now, but were powerhouses in the old GDR Oberliga (VfB Leipzig also was the first German champion in 1903 btw.). There is more police presence than there is for many Bundesliga matches.

Mus
23-09-2009, 12:47:AM
since when did we play toro last weekend?

Dipanjan
23-09-2009, 01:27:AM
The article is a little dated, dare I say?



Dipanjan is right as well. The Calcutta derby is a big one that not a lot of people outside of South Asia are aware of.



And it is purely the fault of the Indian Authorities who could not capitalize on the intense passion that runs for this Game among Bengalis. Let alone the Marketing aspect of the Derby, the organizational aptness of the Game is hardly taken care of. A shame really..

newbie original
23-09-2009, 02:05:AM
Celtic/Rangers OR Boca/River Plate

I'm missing:
AC Milan - Internazionale ---> DEFINITELY MISSING FROM THE ORIGINAL LIST....YOU JUST CAN'T LEAVE THIS ONE OUT!!!
Liverpool - Everton ---> NOT VERY BIG
Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal ---> NOT VERY BIG
AS Roma - Lazio Roma ---> NOT VERY BIG

KingPaulV
23-09-2009, 02:46:AM
Here is a comprehensive list of derby matches around the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_football_rivalries

I think the author of the article was merely trying to give the readers a quick sample of the passion that runs along with football....

Mus
23-09-2009, 09:09:AM
Celtic/Rangers OR Boca/River Plate

lazio - roma is huge.

silvone
23-09-2009, 10:55:AM
More..


Steaua-Dinamo :D
Man UTD-Man City
Milan-Inter
Juve-Torino
Real-Atletico Mad
Bayern-1860 Munchen
Sevilla-Betis
Slavia-Sparta(Praque)

Zlatan
23-09-2009, 11:24:AM
Liverpool - Everton ---> NOT VERY BIG
Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal ---> NOT VERY BIG
AS Roma - Lazio Roma ---> NOT VERY BIG


The first two, meh maybe.

But AS Roma vs Lazio not that big? Dude go to Rome once when that match is played and you'll see what I mean.

silvone
23-09-2009, 11:44:AM
Rome-Lazio is the most important local derby, that's for sure in my opinion

Arnau
23-09-2009, 12:31:PM
sevilla - betis is insane.

Sevillista
24-09-2009, 03:06:AM
Yeah, no love for Sevilla - Betis :(

silvone
24-09-2009, 06:22:AM
So, from what i hear Sevilla-Betis seems to be one of the most passionate local derbies from the globe?! If so, i really need to watch a live match between these two.Ok, i'll took a plane ticket to Sevilla then.;)

Alejandrix
24-09-2009, 08:44:PM
I'm missing:
AC Milan - Internazionale
Liverpool - Everton
Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal
AS Roma - Lazio Roma

I love the Merseyside derby... i love to chant "F*ck off to Kirkby, the city all ours!!!!" :)

bybuti
24-09-2009, 08:56:PM
"Steven Gerrard, baby is not yours" (H) :P

lucacalciatore
25-09-2009, 07:22:AM
I CAN'T BELEIVE THAT MILAN-INTER IS NOT ON THAT LIST!!!

Also, Spurs-Arsenal or Spurs-Chelsea?!!

Betis-Sevilla should be there too.

So too for the Manchester Derby.

kp40
28-09-2009, 10:02:AM
When we played Iran few years back, they said there's a derby in Iran with at least100,000 crowd and lot's of controversy.

cmc211
28-09-2009, 05:28:PM
Oh, it's Tehran derby - Esteghlal vs Persepolis.

kp40
28-09-2009, 09:47:PM
Oh, it's Tehran derby - Esteghlal vs Persepolis.

It should be massive derby, hun?

tinytim
29-09-2009, 01:11:AM
Corinthians x Palmeiras use to be quite a game to watch back in 90's and early 2000's

On Palmeiras side, during the first half of the 90's, there was Luxemburgo and Edmundo, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Antonio Carlos (or Zago, as he became known playing by Roma), Flavio Conceição, Djalminha.

On the other side, Marcelinho, Viola, Zé Elias, Sylvinho, Donizete, Tulio, Souza. Well, Corinthians had always less talented players since it wasn't sponsored by Parmalat like Palmeiras was. Parmalat was like Abrahmovich to Palmeiras.


In Early 2000's, on Palmeiras side, there was Scolari, Marcos, Alex (Fenerbahçe), Arce (Paraguai), Paulo Nunes, Junior Baiano.

On Corinthians side Marcelinho, Kleber, Vampeta, Rincon, Ricardinho, Edilson, Luisão. What a great time and great matches to watch. Palmeiras, sadly, won most of them, including two playoffs, in 1999 and 2000 for Libertadores, beating Corinthians in the Penalty Shootout.

Sevillista
29-09-2009, 03:32:AM
So, from what i hear Sevilla-Betis seems to be one of the most passionate local derbies from the globe?! If so, i really need to watch a live match between these two.Ok, i'll took a plane ticket to Sevilla then.;)
You'll have to wait :D Betis were relegated last season and they've already been knocked out of the Copa del Rey, so no chance of a derby this season. They should be back next season.

ronnifan9
19-10-2009, 08:20:PM
L.A. Galaxy vs. Chivas U.S.A.















Well, I don't have any doubts that Boca/River-River/Boca is indisputedly the best derby to watch PERIOD.

GameWaver
08-11-2009, 07:49:AM
The whole country (and more) live for it, if on these cases that we got here the whole city.


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JGC_1989
08-11-2009, 06:16:PM
No so importan like River-Boca or Rangers-Celtic, but the most important derby in Portugal is the Benfica-Sporting!

josip
16-11-2009, 11:53:PM
Dinamo Zagreb-Hajduk Split


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpeR9f8Rmc


Eternal Derby (Croatian: Vječni derbi) or Croatian Derby, (Croatian: Hrvatski derbi) is the name given to matches between the two biggest and most popular Croatian football clubs Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split.

The rivalry can be traced back to 1920s when Zagreb's Građanski and Hajduk often clashed in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia championships. After World War II, Građanski was disbanded by the authorities, and Dinamo Zagreb was formed to take its place, retaining its colours. The two clubs soon became part of the "Big Four" of Yugoslav football (the other two being Crvena Zvezda and Partizan from Serbia) ever since the Yugoslav championship was established in 1946 (both clubs spent their entire existence playing top-flight football). This lasted until 1991, when Croatia declared independence so clubs started competing in the Prva HNL, which saw its first season being played in 1992. Since 1992 Dinamo and Hajduk won 16 out of 17 Croatian championship titles, as well as 13 out of 17 Croatian cups, which makes them by far the most successful and popular clubs in Croatia.

Due to various formats that were used in the Croatian championship (which currently employs a three-round robin format) and the cup competition format (which has teams playing two-legged fixtures even in the final game) and in addition to the games played in the supercup, there can be anywhere from three to six derbies per season. As of June 2009, there have been 74 derbies played in total since the establishment of the Croatian championship in 1992, with Dinamo winning 32 and Hajduk 26 games, while 16 matches ended in a draw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_derby_(Croatia)

Lancelot34
17-11-2009, 10:53:PM
Shakhter Donetsk - Dinamo Kiev - greatest derby in Eastern Europe


Нету клуба лучше в мире,
Чем Шахтер на Украине.:biggrinx:

Costacurta
17-11-2009, 11:05:PM
Derby della Madonnina .. (The Milan Derby between AC & Inter) - the most important match in Italy :browsmiley:

silvone
18-11-2009, 11:10:AM
Lazio vs Roma, is suppose that is the second important match , right? or first?

ujpest4ever
18-11-2009, 03:31:PM
i miss Újpest FC-Ferencváros TC derby :)

Lean
18-11-2009, 10:54:PM
Palmeiras vs Corinthians is pretty much unworthy of that list. Really, Morumbi can receive around 70k-80k people. This game usually attracts 20-30k. If you wanna talk about a good rivalry in Brazil, talk about Internacional vs Grêmio. Even Guarani vs Ponte Preta (my local town derby) is a better game to talk about. Two small stadiums (one for 25k, another for 13k) people, two traditional teams in a bigass town (Campinas, one million people live here), and pure hate in a tight stadium. The atmosphere is unreal.

JGC_1989
18-11-2009, 11:45:PM
Shakhter Donetsk - Dinamo Kiev - greatest derby in Eastern Europe


Нету клуба лучше в мире,
Чем Шахтер на Украине.:biggrinx:

Kiev and Donetsk doesn't be the same city, so this game is not a derby. It is important game but not a derby.

Alejandrix
19-11-2009, 03:16:AM
Kiev and Donetsk doesn't be the same city, so this game is not a derby. It is important game but not a derby.

Liverpool - Manchester United
Barcelona - Madrid
Inter - Juve

Aren´t those games derbies?....

Zlatan
19-11-2009, 10:09:AM
No, those are rivalries.

Bobby
19-11-2009, 12:55:PM
Yea, a derby is a crosstown (or state or county) match.

Xifio
19-11-2009, 05:02:PM
a derby is a crosstown (or state or county) match.exactly ... there are city derbies, regional derbies, etc. ... it may have traditionally started as an intra-city thing, I'm not sure, but inter-city, regional, and even national derbies exist nowadays ...


Liverpool - Manchester United
Barcelona - Madrid
Inter - Juve

Aren´t those games derbies?....
No, those are rivalries.
Barcelona - Madrid -> El Clásico, El derbi Español
Inter - Juve -> Derby d'Italia
Liverpool - Manchester United -> North-West derby

Alejandrix
19-11-2009, 08:35:PM
exactly ... there are city derbies, regional derbies, etc. ... it may have traditionally started as an intra-city thing, I'm not sure, but inter-city, regional, and even national derbies exist nowadays ...




Barcelona - Madrid -> El Clásico, El derbi Español
Inter - Juve -> Derby d'Italia
Liverpool - Manchester United -> North-West derby
Exactly that´s what i thought :innocent_smile_1:

JGC_1989
20-11-2009, 01:34:PM
Hum, ok. You have yours idea of a derby, I have my. For me Benfica-Sporting is a derby, Benfica-Porto is a classic match, not a derby.

Daniel David
21-11-2009, 11:23:PM
Hum, ok. You have yours idea of a derby, I have my. For me Benfica-Sporting is a derby, Benfica-Porto is a classic match, not a derby.

This is probably just a language issue. In Portuguese we have "derby" for cross-town rivalries and "clássico"/"clasic (match)" which applies to other sorts of rivalries as well as to derbies. In English there seems to be no such distinction, and all cases end up being called derbies.

JGC_1989
22-11-2009, 10:11:PM
Thanks Daniel, I didn't know the word derby in English have a different meaning than in portuguese.

bybuti
22-11-2009, 10:18:PM
El Clasico is coming.

Sunday, 29th November. 19:00 GMT.

You can't miss it.

JGC_1989
23-11-2009, 05:14:PM
And Saturday Sporting - Benfica, two big games in Iberian Peninsula =)

Costacurta
23-11-2009, 05:22:PM
El Clasico is coming.

Sunday, 29th November. 19:00 GMT.

You can't miss it.

yes I can ..

pasion1
23-11-2009, 05:38:PM
to be honest with you guys, and not to insult the one who posted this, but i do hate the whole "most important ______ in world football" (club, derby, stadium). Football has become so globalized. It's a source of pride and a form of cultural expression in many nations.

To say that "______ is the most important club in the world", is so arrogant and dismissive of others. It's a small group of people stating that their football experience is so much more important and meaningful than another group's.

"The EPL is the best/most important league in the world". Go to Mexico and Colombia and you'll see that they live and die for their clubs. Couldn't care less who wins the CL.


This is the same. You'd be shocked how many people in South america have even heard of Celtic and Rangers but you constantly have Scots proclaim their derby to be the world's greatest.
IMO, Hibernian and Hearts games have been much more exciting in recent years. Watch last year's 1-1 draw at Easter Road to see what I mean.
In Uruguay, Nacional and Penarol are one of the top clubs in South America. But I don't consider their derby to be "more important". Just as I don't consider River vs. Boca to be more important than let's say Colo Colo v. Uni de Chile.

tinytim
15-12-2009, 02:33:PM
Palmeiras vs Corinthians is pretty much unworthy of that list. Really, Morumbi can receive around 70k-80k people. This game usually attracts 20-30k. If you wanna talk about a good rivalry in Brazil, talk about Internacional vs Grêmio. Even Guarani vs Ponte Preta (my local town derby) is a better game to talk about. Two small stadiums (one for 25k, another for 13k) people, two traditional teams in a bigass town (Campinas, one million people live here), and pure hate in a tight stadium. The atmosphere is unreal.

Campinas' pinky pants always think themselves so, so, so much more than they really are.

"Duh, 1 million people live here"...BIG DEAL.

A city full of yokels that pretend to be paulistanos, even in their ridiculous accents, with their ridiculous regional sports broadcasts, with ridiculous commentators and ridiculous opinions. everything about that laughable town is a theme for comedy.

Guarani x Ponte is a bigger classic to the point that make Palmeiras and Corinthians 'unworthy of the list'?

And Inter x Gremio, Guarani x Ponte are worthier because of the higher level of 'hate'?

I guess you misunderstand the concept of classics and derbies, my friend.

Inter x Gremio are pure hate because they're the ONLY TEAMS in Porto Alegre. Corinthians x Palmeiras however, stand out among other classics that happen in São Paulo and against Santos.

And check the quality background of those derbies you mentioned. Most of Guarani x Ponte matches are full of horrible plays, fights and nothing more. I can say with my mouth full of words that Corinthians x Palmeiras are bigger in every aspect of the game across its History.

Stop being such sassy envious crying girls and start playing like men. Both Guarani and Ponte are STRAIGHT OWNED by both Corinthians and Palmeiras as well as Gremio and Inter. Shut the hole up and retreat to your meaninglessness.

nikolapfc89
26-07-2010, 08:44:AM
7) RED STAR BELGRADE v PARTIZAN BELGRADE -- Belgrade, Serbia
This is a relatively new fixture: both clubs were founded in 1945, but what they lack in age, they make up for in passion. Partizan was founded as the football section of the central club of the former Yugoslavian Army, while Red Star was founded as the civilians' club. Red Star, or Crvena Zvezda as they are now known, have traditionally been the more successful, achieving the ultimate of winning the European Cup in 1991.

Well in football case 7 yes,cause every year fight for title just these 2 clubs,but you can find everywhere in fan derbies is on 4-5 place. :coffe-anim:(Y)

MelvinSmiley
01-08-2010, 01:26:PM
I'd like to add a derby that isn't famous nowadays, but it is one the biggest derbies in Germany.
Sachsen/Chemie Leipzig - Lokomotive/VfB Leipzig.
These guys hate each other so much that they would kill each other if there wouldn't be any police. They are playing in lower divisions now, but were powerhouses in the old GDR Oberliga (VfB Leipzig also was the first German champion in 1903 btw.). There is more police presence than there is for many Bundesliga matches.

I can confirm that. I was born in Leipzig and the supporters from each side hate eachother as much as possible. People die every once in a while on derbyday. And they are no hooliganfirms. Its just pure hatred. Absolutely crazy.

Gene Reginato
01-08-2010, 05:09:PM
Campinas' pinky pants always think themselves so, so, so much more than they really are.

"Duh, 1 million people live here"...BIG DEAL.

A city full of yokels that pretend to be paulistanos, even in their ridiculous accents, with their ridiculous regional sports broadcasts, with ridiculous commentators and ridiculous opinions. everything about that laughable town is a theme for comedy.

Guarani x Ponte is a bigger classic to the point that make Palmeiras and Corinthians 'unworthy of the list'?

And Inter x Gremio, Guarani x Ponte are worthier because of the higher level of 'hate'?

I guess you misunderstand the concept of classics and derbies, my friend.

Inter x Gremio are pure hate because they're the ONLY TEAMS in Porto Alegre. Corinthians x Palmeiras however, stand out among other classics that happen in São Paulo and against Santos.

And check the quality background of those derbies you mentioned. Most of Guarani x Ponte matches are full of horrible plays, fights and nothing more. I can say with my mouth full of words that Corinthians x Palmeiras are bigger in every aspect of the game across its History.

Stop being such sassy envious crying girls and start playing like men. Both Guarani and Ponte are STRAIGHT OWNED by both Corinthians and Palmeiras as well as Gremio and Inter. Shut the hole up and retreat to your meaninglessness.

Everyone knows people don't go to see Palmeiras x corinthians in the stadium because of violence. All derbies in SP are the same. That's why big team x small team attract bigger crowds.