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MaSsiVe 22-06-2011, 01:30:AM http://oi42.tinypic.com/28te2wj.jpg
Website (www.fcporto.pt)
Stadium:
Estádio do Dragão
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2690/estadiodragao.jpg
History:
September, 1893. Out from nothing, as a secret ambition unfolded by a tough and inflexible reality, F.C. Porto has been founded. António Nicolau d´Almeida, a fine sportsman and an expert Oporto Wine trader, invited, in the quality of F.C. Porto president, F.C. Lisbonense to a football match. It was the first appearance in a football match for the club, the most ancient page written in a hundred years of history.
Deep and insightful enthusiasm marked the years that followed F.C. Porto foundation. To unite the efforts of the local community with the strong English representation in Oporto was the goal of José Monteiro da Costa. This led to extinction of Grupo Recreativo «O Destino» in favour of F.C. Porto. It was the beginning of a solid structure.
The founders were men strongly determined to engender a symbol, an emblem or an icon, in which future generations would have pride on. Their remarkable initiative is still remembered. Blue and white were the colours chosen, as meaning of pureness, calmness and stillness of mind. The colours were represented, at that early time, in the Portuguese flag.
F.C. Porto evolved his purposes to national and universal goals. In the first emblem, the symbol was, of course, a football ball with the F.C.P. initials. Twenty years later the Oporto city shield becomes vital part of F.C. Porto badge. In 1948, the 3-2 victory over Arsenal, team at the time known as the best team in the world, was a proof of the blue and white potential.
Over the years F.C. Porto grew as the conquests were becoming bigger and as his purposes were becoming greater. The symbol of a region astounded the country and surprised the world. De 1980’s were probably the most memorable decade. In 1987 and 1988, F.C. Porto conquered the European Cup, the Intercontinental Cup and the European Supercup, outstanding deed, a proof of the success of special approach in how to deal with sports. Few years later, F.C. Porto achieved a goal that no other club in Portugal dare to accomplish. Five Championships in a row was a remarkable act, another great page in the club's history.
Nowadays the world has changed and Portugal too has evolved. Sports reality is now more complex, but F.C. Porto remains at the top. The club remained winning and the dynamics persist, continuing to be a flag of the region. F.C. Porto has now representation all over the country and all over the world.
The Centro de Treinos e Formação Desportiva PortoGaia and the Dragão Stadium are modern standard of a vanguard difficult to be equalised. The future shines as a reflex of the conquests of the UEFA Cup, in the season 2002/03, of the UEFA Champions League, in 2003/04, and the Intercontinental Cup, in 2004.
Beyond the reality that surrounds football, F.C. Porto showed his greatness in other sports. The honours achieved speak for it. The club that has a Dragon as a symbol holds the Championship title in basketball, handball and roller-hockey, the sports that more cheer up the portuguese. Billiards, swimming, athletics, adapted sport, motor sports, boxing, camping, chess, fishing, karate and weightlifting give also the contribution to this history of success and insure the diversity and necessary involvement in community well being.
Honours:
League Winners:
1921/22,1924/25,1931/32,1934/35,
1936/37,1938/39,1939/40,1955/56,
1958/59,1977/78,1978/79,1984/85,
1985/86,1987/88,1989/90,1991/92,
1992/93,1994/95,1995/96,1996/97,
1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,2003/04,
2005/06,2006/07,2007/08,2008/09,
2010/11
Cup Winners:
1955/56,1957/58,1967/68,1976/77,
1983/84,1987/88,1990/91,1993/94,
1997/98,1999/00, 2000/01,2002/03,
2005/06,2008/09,2009/10,2010/11
Supercup Winners:
1981/82,1983/84,1984/85,1985/86,
1989/90,1990/91,1992/93,1993/94,
1995/96,1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,
2003/04,2005/06,2008/09,2009/10,
2010/11, 2011/12
UEFA Cup Winners:
2002/03
Europa League Winners:
2010/11
Champions League Winners:
1986/87, 2003/04
European Supercup Winners:
1986/87
Intercontinental Cup Winners:
1987/88, 2004/05
Season 2011/12
Kits:
http://www.record.xl.pt/storage/ng67FA53BA-825F-4A18-994F-452F90B8671F.jpg?type=big
Transfers:
Players IN:
Danilo (Santos) - €13M
Alex Sandro (Santos) - €9,6M
Eliaquim Mangala (Standard Liège) - €6,5M
Steven Defour (Standard Liège) - €6M
Juan Manuel Iturbe (Cerro Porteño) - €4M/60%
Kléber (Atlético Mineiro) - €3,5M
Kelvin (Paraná) - €3M/90%
Djalma (Marítimo) - Free
Rafael Bracalli (Nacional da Madeira) - Free
Players OUT:
Falcao (Atlético Madrid) - €40M
Rúben Micael (Atlético Madrid) - €5M
Yero (Gil Vicente) - Co-Ownership
Sebastián Prediger (Colón) - Co-Ownership
Orlando Sá (Fulham) - Undisclosed Fee
Mariano González - Released
Chula - Released
Josué - Released
Candeias - Released
Renato - Released
Tengarrinha - Released
Bacar - Released
Pipo - Released
Engin Bekdemir - Released
Rabiola - Released
Tomás Costa - Released
Maia - Released
Ricardo Dias - Released
Bura - Released
Rui Pedro - Released
Loans:
Ventura, André Pinto (Olhanense)
Kelvin, Atsu (Rio Ave)
Ukra (Braga)
Abdoulaye (Académica)
Pedro Moreira (Gil Vicente)
Ivo Pinto (U. Leiria)
Soares (Recreativo de Huelva)
Edu (Trofense)
Castro (Sporting Gijón)
David (Trofense)
Sereno (Köln)
Kieszek (Roda)
Addy (Panaitolikos)
Beto (Cluj)
Miguel Lopes (Braga)
Sérgio Oliveira (Malines)
Walter (Cruzeiro)
Jorge Fucile (Santos)
Fredy Guarín (Inter)
Fernando Belluschi (Genoa)
Souza (Grêmio)
Squad:
Goalkeepers
1 Hélton
31 Rafael Bracalli
41 Kadú
Defenders
2 Danilo
4 Maicon
5 Álvaro Pereira (Palito)
14 Rolando
15 Emídio Rafael (Rafa)
21 Cristian Săpunaru
22 Mangala
26 Alex Sandro
30 Nicolas Otamendí
Midfielders
3 Lucho
8 João Moutinho
10 Cristian Rodríguez
19 James Rodríguez
25 Fernando
27 Iturbe
35 Defour
Forwards
11 Kléber
12 Hulk
17 Silvestre Varela
20 Djalma
29 Marc Janko
Coach: Vítor Pereira
Pre-Season Fixtures/Results:
Porto, Portugal
July 6th:
Porto x Tourizense (Friendly)
7-0
Hulk x2, Maicon, Kelvin, James, Kléber, own goal
Gütersloh, Germany
July 10th:
Gütersloh x Porto (Friendly)
1-10
Wieckowicz; Kléber, Djalma, Hulk x3, Rúben Micael, Walter x3, Maicon
Oberhausen, Germany
July 16th:
Borussia M'gladbach x Porto (Friendly)
0-0
Verl, Germany
July 17th:
SC Verl x Porto (Friendly)
1-3
Arifi; Kléber x2, Hulk (pen)
Vila do Conde, Portugal
July 21st:
Rio Ave x Porto (Friendly)
1-3
J. Tomás (pen); Kléber x2, João Moutinho
Porto, Portugal
July 24th:
Porto x Peñarol (Friendly)
3-0
G. Rodriguez (o.g.), Hulk (pen), Walter
Geneva, Switzerland
July 31st:
Lyon x Porto (Friendly)
2-1
Lisandro, M. Bastos; Rúben Micael
Season Fixtures/Results:
August 7th:
Porto x V. Guimarães (Portuguese Supercup)
2-1
Rolando x2; Toscano
August 14th:
V. Guimarães x Porto (Portuguese League, 1st Round)
0-1
Hulk (pen)
August 19th:
Porto x Gil Vicente (Portuguese League, 2nd Round)
3-1
Hulk x2, Săpunaru; J. Vilela (pen)
August 26th:
Porto x Barcelona (European Supercup)
0-2
Messi, Fàbregas
September 6th:
U. Leiria x Porto (Portuguese League, 3rd Round)
2-5
A. Almeida, D. Gaúcho; James x2, Kleber x2, Varela
September 9th:
Porto x V. Setúbal (Portuguese League, 4th Round)
3-0
João Moutinho, James, Belluschi
September 13th:
Porto x Shakhtar (Champions League: Group G, 1st Round)
2-1
Hulk, Kleber; L. Adriano
September 18th:
Feirense x Porto (Portuguese League, 5th Round)
B]0-0[/B]
September 23rd:
Porto x Benfica(Portuguese League, 6th Round)
2-2
Kleber, Otamendí; Cardozo, Gaitán
September 28th:
Zenit x Porto (Champions League: Group G, 2nd Round)
3-1
Shirokov x2, Danny;James
October 2nd:
Académica x Porto (Portuguese League, 7th Round)
0-3
Walter, James, Guarín
October 15th:
Pêro Pinheiro x Porto (Portuguese Cup, 3rd Round)
0-8
Defour, Walter x4, Djalma x2, Varela
October 19th:
Porto x APOEL (Champions League: Group G, 3rd Round)
1-1
Hulk; Aílton
October 23rd:
Porto x Nacional (Portuguese League, 8th Round)
5-0
Defour, Walter, Săpunaru, Kleber, Hulk
October 28th:
Porto x Paços de Ferreira (Portuguese League, 9th Round)
3-0
Melgarejo (o.g.), Kleber, João Moutinho
November 1st:
APOEL x Porto (Champions League: Group G, 4th Round)
2-1
Ailton (pen), Manduca;Hulk (pen)
November 5th:
Olhanense x Porto (Portuguese League, 10th Round)
0-0
November 19th:
Académica x Porto (Portuguese Cup, 4th Round)
3-0
Marinho, Adrien, D. Valente
November 23rd:
Shakhtar x Porto (Champions League: Group G, 5th Round)
0-2
Hulk, Rat (o.g.)
November 27th:
Porto x Braga (Portuguese League, 11th Round)
3-2
Hulk x2, Kleber;Lima x2
December 6th:
Porto x Zenit (Champions League: Group G, 6th Round)
0-0
December 10th:
Beira-Mar x Porto (Portuguese League, 12th Round)
1-2
Zhang; James, Hulk
December 17th:
Porto x Marítimo (Portuguese League, 13th Round)
2-0
Cristian Rodríguez, Briguel (o.g.)
December 21st:
Paços de Ferreira x Porto (Portuguese League Cup: Phase 3, Round 1)
1-2
Zhang; Cristian Rodríguez, Hulk (pen)
January 7th:
Sporting x Porto (Portuguese League, 14th Round)
0-0
January 14th:
Porto x Rio Ave (Portuguese League, 15th Round)
2-0
James x2
January 18th:
Porto x Estoril (Portuguese League Cup: Phase 3, Round 2)
1-0
Varela
January 22nd:
Porto x V. Guimarães (Portuguese League, 16th Round)
3-1
Rolando, João Moutinho, James (pen);Faouzi
January 29th:
Gil Vicente x Porto (Portuguese League, 17th Round)
3-1
Cláudio x2, A. Cunha; Varela
February 5th:
Porto x V. Setúbal (Portuguese League Cup: Phase 3, Round 3)
2-0
Lucho, Janko
February 12th:
Porto x U. Leiria (Portuguese League, 18th Round)
4-0
Janko, James, Álvaro Pereira, Maicon
February 16th:
Porto x Manchester City (UEFA Europa League: Round of 32, 1st Leg)
1-2
Varela; Álvaro Pereira (o.g.), Aguero
February 19th:
V. Setúbal x Porto (Portuguese League, 19th Round)
1-3
Meyong; Janko, Fernando, Varela
February 22nd:
Manchester City x Porto (UEFA Europa League: Round of 32, 2nd Leg)
4-0
Aguero, Dzeko, Silva, Pizarro
February 26th:
Porto x Feirense (Portuguese League, 20th Round)
2-0
Maicon, James
March 2nd:
Benfica x Porto (Portuguese League, 21st Round)
2-3
Cardozo x2; Hulk, James, Maicon
March 10th:
Porto x Académica (Portuguese League, 22nd Round)
1-1
Hulk (pen); Edinho
March 16th:
Nacional x Porto (Portuguese League, 23rd Round)
0-2
Janko, Alex Sandro
March 20th:
Benfica x Porto (Portuguese League Cup, Semi-Finals)
3-2
M. Pereira, Nolito, Cardozo; Lucho, Mangala
March 2nd:
Paços de Ferreira x Porto (Portuguese League, 24th Round)
1-1
Melgarejo; Ricardo (o.g.)
March 31st:
Porto x Olhanense (Portuguese League, 25th Round)
2-0
Lucho, James
April 7th:
Braga x Porto (Portuguese League, 26th Round)
0-1
Hulk
April 21st:
Porto x Beira-Mar (Portuguese League, 27th Round)
3-0
Hulk x2, Janko
Goal/Assist Count:
Hulk 17/14
James 13/10
João Moutinho 3/8
Kleber 7/3
Walter 6/2
Varela 6/2
Belluschi 1/5
Djalma 2/3
Janko 5/0
Álvaro Pereira 1/4
Rolando 3/1
Defour 2/2
Cristian Rodríguez 2/2
Maicon 3/0
Lucho 2/1
Săpunaru 2/0
Guarín 1/1
Fernando 1/1
Otamendí 1/0
Alex Sandro 1/0
Mangala 1/0
bruno167 22-06-2011, 08:00:PM New season, same goals. WIN, WIN, WIN!:33vff3o:
This is our destiny since 1893.
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yoyo913 24-06-2011, 05:58:AM Yo bro I'm a long time Porto fan, pleased to finally find a forum with Porto related stuff.
Nimreitz 24-06-2011, 06:21:AM European Super Cups are done by years, not seasons, and even if they were you have the wrong season.
Ditto for the Intercontinental Cup, although you got the seasons right.
Coruja 24-06-2011, 03:20:PM Yo bro I'm a long time Porto fan, pleased to finally find a forum with Porto related stuff.
Last season there was a topic about Porto too.
Filipower 25-06-2011, 06:38:PM http://imgs.sapo.pt/images/DESPORTO/1.0.6/hp/064e20ce67670028100a34b741370b1b.jpg
Gone in December?
Coruja 26-06-2011, 02:18:AM lol
Your hopes are high.
Filipower 26-06-2011, 02:38:AM I'm a Portista, my standards are high.
MaSsiVe 27-06-2011, 05:47:PM European Super Cups are done by years, not seasons, and even if they were you have the wrong season.
Ditto for the Intercontinental Cup, although you got the seasons right.I know what you mean but the seasons I mention are the ones when the matches were actually played, not what year/season they refer to.
given that, I believe the data is correct.
about the new coach Vítor Pereira, I think he was the smartest choice since what most fans want and hope for is continuity to this legendary season.
since his ideas shouldn't diverge much from Libras-Boas', I say we have a fair chance to maintain the same mentality in and off the pitch, keeping most players happy and performing at a high level.
of course people are different and we'll have to wait and see if the man can actually keep us flying high...
about the market, we are basically considering the purchase of a RB, a CB, a DM and two strikers.
our main exits are likely to be Rolando, Fernando, and of course Falcao, we're also probably selling Fucile and Cebolla...hopefully we can find quality players to replace all of them :rolleyes:
MaSsiVe 06-07-2011, 11:44:PM so, new season has officially started (Y)
first friendly was today, against, as usual, Tourizense.
we won 7-0, Hulk scored twice, Maicon, Kelvin, James and brand new signing Kleber (quality striker I tell you) also featured in the score sheet.
Just a friendly against lowly opposition, but it's always nice to start off with a win :)
Next stop, Marienfeld for the pre-season tour.
STML1 07-07-2011, 01:49:AM Porto's stadium is beautiful.
MaSsiVe 07-07-2011, 02:54:AM thanks bro...I am lucky enough to attend it week in week out (H)
Filipower 07-07-2011, 08:48:PM wxOPLGyk_a4
I love how afterwards he takes his hand to his face because he was hit but it seems like he's going "eeeeiiisshhhh"
MaSsiVe 09-07-2011, 01:51:AM (H), have you seen Falcao's on Macherano?
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also, Palito scored for Uruguay tonight at their Copa America game (H)
MaSsiVe 14-07-2011, 07:59:PM Radamel Falcao has just extended his contract with us, new deal is up until 2015; new release clause is worth €45M.
(H)!!!!!!!!
Shame Falcao's great season ended with that missed penalty, football is really ruthless.
Nimreitz 02-08-2011, 03:09:AM http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/937748/porto-rejected-%E2%82%AC80-million-bid-for-hulk---agent?cc=5901
Porto rejected an €80 million bid for Brazil striker Hulk earlier this summer, according to the player's agent.
Bull****.
Coruja 02-08-2011, 06:09:PM Obvious bull****. Newspapers doing their job on promoting Hulk even more. Overrated Hulk is overrated.
Tiago_10 02-08-2011, 09:35:PM http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/937748/porto-rejected-%E2%82%AC80-million-bid-for-hulk---agent?cc=5901
Bull****.
FC Porto's chairman Pinto da Costa said he wouldn't trade Hulk for Cristiano Ronaldo (H)
I mean, c'mon... I doubt anyone still buys this BS..
Their most dangerous player isn't even Hulk, it's Falcão. Really.
Arnau 02-08-2011, 09:45:PM It's the collective, actually, but their leader went to Chelsea.
Nimreitz 02-08-2011, 10:04:PM 80 million would probably cover the club's operating costs for a year.
Tiago_10 02-08-2011, 10:24:PM It's the collective, actually, but their leader went to Chelsea.
I agree they have a strong collective, but if I had to single out a player I would definitely choose Falcão.
But yeah it'll be interesting to see what happens with the "new" coach, I'm hoping the league will be more competitive at the top. Sporting also made several changes and will be better.
MaSsiVe 02-08-2011, 10:59:PM Obvious bull****. Newspapers doing their job on promoting Hulk even more. Overrated Hulk is overrated.
newspapers? learn how to read, it's his agent who mentions the eventual bid. about him promoting the player he represents...this may come out as a shocker to you, but that's the job of an agent :confused2:
the only team I could see putting up an offer like that would be City...either way I obviously doubt it happened, because honestly, we would've accepted it in the blink of an eye.
of course, there would always be the player's will having to be taken into account...and wages aside, truth be told: Porto >>>>>>>>>>>> City.
about him being overrated, I reckon you're talking about his release clause?
because having him around raping your sorry asses over and over again has been nothing short of PRICELESS!
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Coruja 03-08-2011, 12:54:PM newspapers? learn how to read, it's his agent who mentions the eventual bid. about him promoting the player he represents...this may come out as a shocker to you, but that's the job of an agent :confused2:
the only team I could see putting up an offer like that would be City...either way I obviously doubt it happened, because honestly, we would've accepted it in the blink of an eye.
of course, there would always be the player's will having to be taken into account...and wages aside, truth be told: Porto >>>>>>>>>>>> City.
about him being overrated, I reckon you're talking about his release clause?
because having him around raping your sorry asses over and over again has been nothing short of PRICELESS!
jYPtDrXKm_c
And how did you know it was the agent saying that? Newspapers. simple.Or do you talked with the agent? Newspapers are doing their job. But yeah, if you need a more detailed sentence then the agent and newspapers are doing their jobs. Now maybe you'll understand better :)
And yes, Porto raped our asses last season, but if you need to mention one player i tought you would be more smart, saying Falcao for example, instead of Hulk.
Since you like youtube videos, there you go:
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Tiago_10 03-08-2011, 02:39:PM Not to mention in that match David Luiz was an unadapted left back, fatty Sidnei played after half a season benched (and eating picanha (H)) and therefore with no connection with the rest of the defense and untrained on the defensive processes (positioning and transitions) and Coentrão didn't play as LB undermining his and his teammates confidence. And of course, no other than Roberto was our goalkeeper which by itself further lowers the confidence of the defenders...
That was our coach fault though, not taking credit of Hulk and co. Porto clearly deserved to win then, but these factors need to be taken in account because they surely contributed to such an unbalanced outcome.
MaSsiVe 03-08-2011, 03:25:PM And how did you know it was the agent saying that? Newspapers. simple.Or do you talked with the agent? Newspapers are doing their job. But yeah, if you need a more detailed sentence then the agent and newspapers are doing their jobs. Now maybe you'll understand better :)
right, the sports newspapers in Portugal are totally pro-Porto and tap us on the back all the time. especially Record and aBola! give me a ******* break :clapwap:
And yes, Porto raped our asses last season, but if you need to mention one player i tought you would be more smart, saying Falcao for example, instead of Hulk.
jesus ******* christ, are you really this stupid?
you were the one mentioning (bashing, to be more accurate) Hulk, I have simply picked up your words and tried to make a simple point: Hulk is a fantastic player. and so is Falcao btw, but why the **** should I be talking about him when he's not even the subject of the discussion?
I don't even know why I bother replying to you, your posts are so incoherent that it feels like I'm entering some kind of retarded twilight zone 8|
Not to mention in that match David Luiz was an unadapted left back, fatty Sidnei played after half a season benched (and eating picanha ) and therefore with no connection with the rest of the defense and untrained on the defensive processes (positioning and transitions) and Coentrão didn't play as LB undermining his and his teammates confidence. And of course, no other than Roberto was our goalkeeper which by itself further lowers the confidence of the defenders...
:rofl: come on Tiago, surely you can do better than that.
bringing up the same old excuses, over and over again, won't make that game any less humilliating for you guys.
David Luiz was put on as a left back in order to try and stop Hulk, and failed miserably. in the second half, JJ put Luiz as CB and moved Coentrão to LB and, surprise surprise, he also failed miserably at trying to stop Hulk.
and that was that, you'll always have this next season to try harder and hopefully epically fail again (H)
Coruja 03-08-2011, 05:21:PM right, the sports newspapers in Portugal are totally pro-Porto and tap us on the back all the time. especially Record and aBola! give me a ******* break :clapwap:
jesus ******* christ, are you really this stupid?
you were the one mentioning (bashing, to be more accurate) Hulk, I have simply picked up your words and tried to make a simple point: Hulk is a fantastic player. and so is Falcao btw, but why the **** should I be talking about him when he's not even the subject of the discussion?
I don't even know why I bother replying to you, your posts are so incoherent that it feels like I'm entering some kind of retarded twilight zone 8|
:rofl: come on Tiago, surely you can do better than that.
bringing up the same old excuses, over and over again, won't make that game any less humilliating for you guys.
David Luiz was put on as a left back in order to try and stop Hulk, and failed miserably. in the second half, JJ put Luiz as CB and moved Coentrão to LB and, surprise surprise, he also failed miserably at trying to stop Hulk.
and that was that, you'll always have this next season to try harder and hopefully epically fail again (H)
Its true, i have that kind of power!
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6dsfncYlj1qcupmyo1_400.jpg
bruno167 03-08-2011, 07:39:PM Talking about Hulk:
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(H)
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MaSsiVe 08-08-2011, 12:07:AM First trophy of the new season, the Portuguese Supercup is ours yet again! that makes 3 in a row and grand total of 18 now :33vff3o:
amazingly, Rolando scored twice (H)
the play for the first goal was simply magnificent: http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/108083588#pm_cmp=vid_OEV_P_P
Hulk is a BEAST (H)
fender 08-08-2011, 12:29:AM Insane assist from Hulk.
He should play for Brazil, I don't know their moron coach didn't pick him.
He can do much better for them rather than just friendlies.
There are some rumors that Falcao agreed personal terms with Atletico Madrid.
Arnau 08-08-2011, 08:30:PM What a fool then.
Filipower 08-08-2011, 08:31:PM Don't think it's going to happen. What he's going to Spain just so he can be 3rd place at best, get thrashed by Real and Barça in four games a season and the rest of it just challenge for Europea League? **** that.
sometimes money speaks louder my friends and Atletico has some after selling De Gea and Kun.
Filipower 08-08-2011, 08:38:PM Porto could even beat Chelsea's contract for Villas-Boas. Money isn't exactly a problem over here.
ArgVega 09-08-2011, 12:08:AM Don't think it's going to happen. What he's going to Spain just so he can be 3rd place at best, get thrashed by Real and Barça in four games a season and the rest of it just challenge for Europea League? **** that.
They're probably getting tired of winning the Portuguese league, I don't see Porto a serious challenger for the UCL so Europa legue is also as good as it gets for them realistically. He will also not end his career there so a move to a different bigger club in a few years is a good chance, look at Aguero and Torres
Filipower 09-08-2011, 12:20:AM 1. Falcao only has one Portuguese League.
2. Perhaps, but if that's the case he might as well challenge for Europa League with Porto, right?
3. He's got the chance to move to a bigger club if he stays at Porto. Look at everyone.
bruno167 09-08-2011, 07:16:PM If patético de madrid wants him, then just pay the 45M release clause.
No money, no business.:rolleyes:
I agree with our coach Vítor Pereira, who said this week that the transfer market should close at 15th August.
Doesn´t make any sense, with most of the leagues starting/already started and important european qualification rounds in progress, to have this kind of uncertainty about who will stay or not in the teams.:clapwap:
@bruno167, nice signiture and stats.(Y)
Filipower 16-08-2011, 07:04:PM I love how the media talks about Benfica and Sporting having reinforced themselves really well this season, yet we have Iturbe and Danilo, and now Defour and Mangala. (H)
Speaking of which, thoughts about these last two? Mangala I don't really know that well, just that he did great last season, but Defour is AMAZING!
Coruja 16-08-2011, 08:43:PM And Alex Sandro.
I dont really like Danilo and Alex Sandro, seeing the money that you guys spent with them... its just absurd when you compare with the quality they have. Now Defour and Mangala really nice players. Mangala is a damn tower and is quite "movel" (está-me a faltar a palavra).
Filipower 16-08-2011, 09:01:PM Is Falcao really going? **** my ass it's an even worse move than Villas-Boas, at least Chelsea is a proper club.
Nimreitz 17-08-2011, 05:00:AM Know your place, boy (H)
coxlenox 17-08-2011, 12:53:PM And Alex Sandro.
I dont really like Danilo and Alex Sandro, seeing the money that you guys spent with them... its just absurd when you compare with the quality they have. Now Defour and Mangala really nice players. Mangala is a damn tower and is quite "movel" (está-me a faltar a palavra).
why you dont like this players??
Coruja 18-08-2011, 10:22:AM Because they're nothing from another world and they were so overpriced. I think even Lamela went cheaper for Roma. In this recent years now looks like that ever brazilian player that make lets see... 7/8 good games in Santos is a future superstar and their price goes up like crazy. But well, good job selling those players by that price.
MaSsiVe 18-08-2011, 01:22:PM seems like Falcao and Micael are set for Patético...we have officially announced the ongoing negotiation.
estimated fee is around €45M and that's fair enough if you ask me, especially considering that Radamel has already decided to chose money over glory and Ruben isn't a key player for us.
Filipower 18-08-2011, 03:24:PM When I heard Mendes was in Madrid I knew it would be difficult for him not to leave. **** me. ****. Me. What the hell, Atlético? Give me a ******* break. I hate this so much man.
Tiago_10 18-08-2011, 04:07:PM I understand your frustration. Personally I think it's a step down leaving Porto for Patético, except for the financial matters.
Maybe he'd like to play in the Spanish League and get more visibility and then move to a bigger team, but then again if he stayed he would have the chance to play the Champions League.
MaSsiVe 18-08-2011, 04:27:PM ...right you are.
in other news, Hulk and Danilo have been called up to the Brazilian NT for their friendly in September against Ghana...(H).
Filipower 18-08-2011, 09:46:PM Visibility? Atlético gets visibility 4 games a year.
ArgVega 18-08-2011, 10:11:PM Falcao to el Pupas. Atleti made a great deal with 40m for both. Who will Portion replace him with?
Filipower 18-08-2011, 10:14:PM 45 for both. 40 for Radamel and 5 for Ruben. Falcao's can raise to 47.
ArgVega 18-08-2011, 10:18:PM 45 for both. 40 for Radamel and 5 for Ruben. Falcao's can raise to 47.
March is reporting 40, but you prolly are more accurate than them. Who will you buy?
The 7 mil is probably with trophy incentives, so I would just count on 40m (H)
Filipower 18-08-2011, 10:22:PM Nah it has to do with the payment method I think. I don't really think we'll buy anyone. Certainly not for Micael's place, we have plenty. Perhaps for Falcao but if so then a youngster, seeing as Kléber apparently has his spot clinched.
shame, he had a good chance in champions league to shine for Porto.
Filipower 18-08-2011, 10:25:PM Apparently he €forgot€about€that€.
yeah, but he could shine and could go to a bigger club. he's just 25, good performance in UCL good direct him to better teams. I don't consider Atletico better than Porto.
poet11 18-08-2011, 10:29:PM I don't understand what motivated Falcao to go to AM...... staying at Porto would have been a better option imo.
Filipower 19-08-2011, 08:22:PM How is Otamendi not sent off? These referees are ridiculous man, they're ALL crap. Jesus Christ the papers are going to have a field day.
Filipower 19-08-2011, 08:46:PM Why the hell is Moutinho on the right and Guarín on the left? Did he swap them just so people notice we have a new manager? I don't know if I mentioned this already, I don't like Vitor Pereira.
Arnau 23-08-2011, 09:12:PM Piqué's injured and will miss the european supercup, Puyol as well, but don't suck your cocks already, we still have Masche - Abidal.
Filipower 23-08-2011, 09:13:PM Cheers.
MaSsiVe 23-08-2011, 11:42:PM good news for us I guess, that CB duo is definitely exploitable...at least on paper.
--------------Helton-------------
Sapunaru-Otamendí-Rolando-Fucile
--------------Souza--------------
--Guarín---------------Moutinho--
-------------Belluschi------------
-------Kleber---------Hulk-------
that would be my starting 11 for Friday, considering that everyone stays fit...Varela is out of form and having the extra man in the midfield will be useful to handle the likes of Xavi and Iniesta.
Filipower 23-08-2011, 11:45:PM Not bad, would be a decent idea to pack the midfield.
Speaking of a team, what's the deal with Fernando and Palito, then?
MaSsiVe 24-08-2011, 12:00:AM really puzzled about the Fernando situation...it seemed so clear that he was as good as gone by the end of last season, now things are so quiet around him that I just don't know what to think anymore. although Souza is doing well enough in the DM spot, the truth is that "the octopus" is a clear starter in normal conditions.
about Palito, I believe Libras-Boas will snatch him from us sooner or later:
Sky Sports sources understand that Chelsea have made a bid for Porto midfielder Alvaro Pereira.
Blues boss Andre Villas-Boas worked with the 25-year-old Uruguay international before he joined the Premier League side this summer.
But it is now believed that Pereira could be following his former coach to Stamford Bridge, with the London club looking to replace Yuri Zhirkov who has joined Russian outfit FC Anzhi Makhachkala.
Pereira would fill that void after gaining a reputation as a highly rated wing-back.
Chelsea are the highest spenders of all 20 Premier League clubs this summer, with Juan Mata the latest signing, joining from Valencia for £26m.
Pereira began his career in Uruguay with Miremar Misiones and spent time at Quilmes and Argentinos Juniors before moving to Europe to play for Romanian side CFR Cluj.
He made the move to Porto in 2009 and played a significant part in their treble winning side under Villas-Boas last year.
It is understood that Pereira has a £25m release clause.
Azrael 24-08-2011, 06:31:AM There's no point in us getting Perreira, because we have backup for Cole in PVA and Bertrand and we have cover for the left wing as well. It just sounds like leftover rumours from before the Mata deals. We have bigger fish to fry, I'd be more worried about Rolando or Hulk frankly (although maybe not in the current window).
MaSsiVe 24-08-2011, 03:02:PM well, he's not even in the squad for the Barcelona match so I reckon he is definitely leaving...for which team is what remains to be seen.
Arnau 24-08-2011, 04:29:PM good news for us I guess, that CB duo is definitely exploitable...at least on paper.
Not really, you better focus on try to hurt us in dead balls.
Filipower 25-08-2011, 01:34:PM Well, seeing as I'm not too worried about the Supercup tomorrow, I was checking the CL group phase draw which takes place today.
We can actually get a "perfect storm" of AC Milan, Manchester City and Dortmund.
Shame Falcao is not Porto player anyomore, he could make tommorow's game more interesting. He said he will face more challange in Athletico madrid, will they face Barca is supercup as well?
Arnau 25-08-2011, 06:35:PM Realize who's the last european supercup champion.
so everybody should play for Ajax ;).
Filipower 25-08-2011, 11:24:PM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2798/vitorpereira.png
hahahahahahahaha (H)
Spanish Media :facepalm:
I'm sure our friends Benfiquistas in the forum will have a blast with this one :D
Tiago_10 25-08-2011, 11:33:PM Ahahahah (H)
That is gold.
Anyway everyone expects Barça to win, so you guys really have nothing to lose. I won't be that surprised if you actually can get a decent result, that would be good for Portuguese football.
(opposed to yet another pathetic [but amusing] performance from Sporting today (H))
Coruja 26-08-2011, 12:11:AM lulz
MaSsiVe 06-09-2011, 05:07:AM Fresh, good news: we have activated the clause concerning the option to buy the other 50% of Otamendí's rights for another €4M, so now he is 100% Dragão (H)
game against Leiria tonight, time to get another 3 points and return to the top of the league.
Hulk will probably be starting dispite having played this Monday for the brazilian NT, and there are a few usual starters not being able to play due to their NT compromises like Otamendí, Guarín and Sapunaru...considering all that, this would be my line-up:
----------Helton-----------
Fucile-Maicon-Rolando-Palito
----------Souza-----------
---Belluschi--Moutinho-----
Hulk------------------James
---------Kleber------------
that will do...dá-lhe PORTO!
yoyo913 06-09-2011, 05:20:AM Can you describe Sapunaru as a player for me?
MaSsiVe 06-09-2011, 06:11:AM He's starting the 4th consecutive season with us and I can tell you that he has massively improved since he got here, and nowadays he is a solid starter for our RB spot.
He is a discrete side-back. Doesn't go out much in attack, but considering that he usually has Hulk ahead of him on the field, he doesn't really need too...he is able to provide a decent support for the wingers though, dispite being kind of slow.
Defensively he's extremely reliable.
Very aware and has improved a lot when it comes to discernment, as he used to be a bit mistake-prone. Guess he lacked confidence, and it showed. Once he started playing more regularly his game went on to a different level and even his attitude these days is an example for any Porto player.
He is a passionate guy who loves this club and he likes to show it...and we love him for that (H)
ZUnyV67hUvs
******* legend (H)
bruno167 06-09-2011, 07:43:PM Sapunaru is the best. He has all the spirit of a true Porto player.
Here is another video of him, chanting an anti benfica song.
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Hope for a victory today to go back to the lead.:33vff3o:
Dytza 06-09-2011, 07:45:PM what a bad luck has this guy :( Sapunaru got injured at the warm-up right before the start of the match :(
Nimreitz 06-09-2011, 09:37:PM Why do you have a game during the international break?
Only Hulk can play two matches in 2 days ;).
MaSsiVe 07-09-2011, 01:47:AM just got home, didn't even know Sapu got injured :willis:
we have played today since we had this 3rd round league game postponed because of the Supercup match against Barcelona.
wasn't the ideal timing but the truth is there weren't many other choices...we won 5-2 so it's all good (H)
highlights: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7173408/uniao_leiria_2_5_fc_porto/
Falcao who? KLEBER! (H)
Filipower 07-09-2011, 01:43:PM Why do you have a game during the international break?
Moronic calendar management.
The game against Leiria was postponed due to the UEFA Super Cup, but instead of us playing the following monday, like Barça did, we only played yesterday. PLUS the next game is this friday! Go figure.
MaSsiVe 09-09-2011, 11:37:PM 3-0 against Setúbal, and a masterful performance to go with it.
they came out to defend with 11 men behind the ball and we had a hard time finding space to create chances in the first 20 minutes, but we did manage to eventually suffocate and then run them over later on.
I love this high pressure we strike on the opposition which allows us to recover the ball well over their midfield and then create absolute chaos in their defense.
we still have to put more of our chances away, we played enough to put 5 or 6 past them...
James was a devil on the loose out there yet again, creating most of our dangerous plays...what a magnificent player he's turning out to be.
Defour seems like a hell of a catch, showing great ability with the ball on his feet and being very aware in terms of positioning. This allowed him to be equally influential on the defensive and offensive moments of our game. Great performance!
And Belluschi, again proving that he is a serious option for our midfied. He's technically gifted as ****, has a good long range and also shows great team spirit...Fredy better watch his back :browsmiley:
our midfield is freakin' AWESOME (H)
highlights: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7199703/fc_porto_3_0_vitoria_setubal/
...bring it on Shakhtar (H)
Metacafe is known for celeb sex clips not football highlight ;).
What a goal by my boy, Moutinho :).
MaSsiVe 10-09-2011, 01:43:AM he was subbed in at halftime, right on time to break the deadlock (H)
playing with him, Defour and Belluschi forming our midfield was really audacious by Vítor Pereira, and the truth is it worked wonders for us...it's a great option to bet on in the future, against these ultra-defensive sides.
I like the way Porto sell best players and coaches and still keep their form in domestic competitons and europe.
fender 10-09-2011, 02:45:PM Defour seems like a hell of a catch, showing great ability with the ball on his feet and being very aware in terms of positioning. This allowed him to be equally influential on the defensive and offensive moments of our game. Great performance!
Sounds good for my draft team. (H)
MaSsiVe 11-09-2011, 08:13:PM (H), it does seem like you hit the jackpot. If he keeps up this kind of form I see him becoming a very useful player for us this season.
Filipower 23-09-2011, 11:18:PM http://imgs.sapo.pt/images/DESPORTO/1.0.6/hp/064e20ce67670028100a34b741370b1b.jpg
Gone in December?
Make that September.
bruno167 24-09-2011, 10:33:AM I defended Vitor Pereira in the beginning but after seeing what he have done in the last 2 games i have to agree with you.
Again he cost us 2 points. Seems he can´t make a proper substitution. :facepalm:
How come he takes off Guarin, which was one of the best and puts Belluschi who is in a disastrous form? Why he take so long to substitute Varela? Why he makes us playing without a striker?
After 70min, I would have changed to 4-4-2, taking off Varela and put Souza/Defour to give more consistence to the midfield and replace Kleber with Walter to refresh the attack.
He looks like Jesualdo. We can´t loose points like that if we want to win the league.
For some reason Santa Clara was 2 or 3 years so close to promote and allways fail in last games.:(
Also can someone explain, what kind of pre-season we maded that most of our players seems completely tired at 60min:rolleyes:
The league is open but we definitely need to improve if we want to win.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302481_265346913487632_119787048043620_934556_6896 68063_n.jpg
A video recorded by me from yesterday game, showing the teams entrance.
Amazing atmosphere.
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MaSsiVe 24-09-2011, 04:17:PM While I agree that Vítor has made a couple of mistakes in the last couple of games, I think that asking for his head this early is absolute bull****.
FFS, it's not like we have the season in risk 8| We are still topping the table in the league and the CL group, and have actually played awesome football in most of our games...of course as Porto fans we are not used to dropping points, especially in 2 games in a row and against the likes of ****ty teams like Feirense and Benfica, but that's no reason to go ape**** if you ask me.
I'm pretty sure we're going back on track soon enough, just in time to shut the hysterical critics up...
Força Vítor Pereira. AMO-TE PORTO!
Coruja 24-09-2011, 05:51:PM While I agree that Vítor has made a couple of mistakes in the last couple of games, I think that asking for his head this early is absolute bull****.
FFS, it's not like we have the season in risk 8| We are still topping the table in the league and the CL group, and have actually played awesome football in most of our games...of course as Porto fans we are not used to dropping points, especially in 2 games in a row and against the likes of ****ty teams like Feirense and Benfica, but that's no reason to go ape**** if you ask me.
I'm pretty sure we're going back on track soon enough, just in time to shut the hysterical critics up...
Força Vítor Pereira. AMO-TE PORTO!
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbhLFOaV39X7IdIq7F3lP4nZUumm11b 2UoyJlmK9DXggtry7iirfqP_DYS
MaSsiVe 24-09-2011, 06:08:PM we drew at home against a team that based its game on defending like a relegation-bound side throughout the whole match, commited fouls like there was no tomorrow and still got less bookings then us, and somehow eventually managed to score twice in a total of 3 shots on goal...of course I'm angry dude.
Coruja 24-09-2011, 07:30:PM http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1NVUNMHhE4/TVxzam7ilpI/AAAAAAAAAho/9kmC7ME-Dnk/s1600/Okay+guy.jpg
Filipower 25-09-2011, 11:06:PM No Massive. I have lost what little confidence I had in Pereira. The substitutions he did in the game are the 3 worst manager moves I have ever seen in a single game.
There's so much wrong with not only his choices in the game against Benfica, but some of the things he's done this season that I don't even have the patience to write it all down right now.
Filipower 28-09-2011, 07:43:PM You guys think Pinto da Costa is going to wait for the inevitable draw/loss against Académica to fire his ass?
bruno167 28-09-2011, 07:56:PM I hope not.
Vítor Pereira OUT NOW!
But he is not the only one to blame. This season was very poorly prepared. We spent lots of money in Danilo and Alex Sandro that can´t play for us for a while, instead of getting a proper Falcao replacement. I would like to know who is the genius who tought we could be competitive with only Kléber and Walter as strikers. Also, why Iturbe havent played yet? I know he is very young but i am sure he isbetter that C.Rodriguez, Djalma and Varela in their current form.
Why C.Rodriguez wasn´t sold? He will go for free next season.
I dont get it. We need drastic changes ASAP if we want have chances to win anything this season.
PORTO SOMOS NÓS!!!
http://ultrasfcporto.no.sapo.pt/fraseSD_FCP-penafiel.jpg
Coruja 28-09-2011, 08:28:PM http://blog.nj.com/morristown_edkirchdoerffer/2009/02/large_Barynya_press.jpg
LiiBCmqXTF8
http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2010/08/05/brunoalves_zenit_62.jpg
Oh snap, im sensing some ****storm aura surrounding me.
Now seriously, Vitor Pereira cant handle a team like Porto like i said before. The automatic pilot is reaching the end.
Filipower 28-09-2011, 08:29:PM And you still couldn't beat us.
Coruja 28-09-2011, 08:33:PM http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2011/08/okay-meme.jpg
fender 19-10-2011, 05:52:PM I predict Porto to run wild tonight and Hulk to ave a blinder. :dance:
Filipower 19-10-2011, 09:40:PM Is this guy really going to stay for a whole season?
Coruja 19-10-2011, 10:04:PM http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/107/432/original/i_hug_that_feel.png?1300595876
MaSsiVe 19-10-2011, 10:46:PM Nice trolling job as usual Coruja, I think it's about time I tell you to go **** yourself.
worst game of the season by far. CL home game against an average team like APOEL is a must win, and we managed to **** it up :facepalm:
No flow in our football, bad passing, horrible defending, no heart and will whatsoever shown by the players...and I have to admit that VP made another couple of retarded substitutions. Guarín did nothing good all night and still finished the game, while he takes off Fernando (the best - still not good enough - performance in our midfield up until then) and James who wasn't being brilliant but could eventually change the game in our favour through a glimpse of his magic.
Appalling performance, it amazes me how having an improved squad over last season's we are playing this bad :willis:
poet11 19-10-2011, 10:49:PM Falcao????
Anyways, APOEL top of the group which has Porto,Zenit and Shakhtar!!!
MaSsiVe 19-10-2011, 11:05:PM Falcao's absense is not the main problem. Kleber can't score if the ball doesn't cross his path! the whole team just isn't working well together, scrappy football all-round...it's like we have been moving backwards in quality since the start of the season.
APOEL is doing a great campaign so far, but I am confident we are going to restore normality by beating them in Cyprus next. All I can do is hope :(
poet11 19-10-2011, 11:18:PM Coach is **** then and yeah best of luck for the next game :)
Coruja 20-10-2011, 07:58:PM Actually i wasnt trolling. Its known that i dislike Jesus and Benfica had some bad management of coaches so yeah.. thats it.
....
and Massive, about the neg rep:
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/68/csb1.jpg
fender 23-10-2011, 06:42:PM Hulk is a blond?! :Devil:
Coruja 23-10-2011, 07:28:PM Nope, its just Honda.
MaSsiVe 25-10-2011, 04:00:PM Hulk is a blond?! :Devil:
it looks awful, but as long as he keeps on scoring absolute beauties like the one in this last match he can even dye his hair pink as far as I'm concerned (H)
Coruja 25-10-2011, 07:40:PM http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1231/31761315709627714221756.jpg
Tiago_10 25-10-2011, 08:14:PM Hahaha (H)
Fake blonde brazilian on steroids version of Tintim still doesn't beat Major Valentintim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2pW09dhp9k). (H)
MaSsiVe 25-10-2011, 08:22:PM (H)!!
I don't know how I didn't get to watch that earlier, it's genius.
Nimreitz 01-11-2011, 09:39:PM Europa League is a nice competition too.
MaSsiVe 01-11-2011, 10:39:PM I'll be glad if we even get there.
jesus ******* christ, I am truly lost for words after this one :facepalm:
fender 01-11-2011, 10:40:PM Oh dear.......
Filipower 02-11-2011, 02:55:PM You guys can thank Vitor Pereira. And by thank I mean rape and murder.
bruno167 08-11-2011, 06:12:PM http://www.vitorpereirajafoidespedido.com/
(H)
Coruja 19-11-2011, 10:56:PM ROFL What the **** is happening?
Tiago_10 20-11-2011, 12:29:AM jWrS-PjsNbM
(H)
*warning explicit language* ((H))
Coruja 20-11-2011, 12:47:AM Well... hes right.
Filipower 20-11-2011, 01:26:PM This result is a surprise becaaaaause.....?
Coruja 20-11-2011, 02:30:PM This result is a surprise becaaaaause.....?
http://www.dn.pt/storage/DN/2011/big/ng1657936.jpg?type=big&pos=0
Filipower 20-11-2011, 09:13:PM Huh?
ArgVega 06-12-2011, 09:38:PM :facepalm:
MaSsiVe 07-12-2011, 12:11:AM http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3944/semttulohqo.jpg
:facepalm:
damn right.:willis:
Filipower 07-12-2011, 12:22:AM So did Vítor Pereira quit?
ArgVega 07-12-2011, 03:44:AM http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3944/semttulohqo.jpg
damn right.:willis:
I thought for sure you would win, zenit will be useless next round I would much rather see Porto.
Pizarro14 07-12-2011, 10:03:AM I thought for sure you would win, zenit will be useless next round I would much rather see Porto.
Zenit is class whatchu talking about boy. Surprised but not shocking. It's not like they haven't been a threat in European tournaments over the last couple of years, besides there amazing run in 2007. Still get flashbacks of that Bayern massacre :(
Coruja 07-12-2011, 11:52:AM Clearly Porto did way better than Zenit, besides the "Wall of China" even not being Portista i raged when Hulk in front of the keeper did a... "bico" instead of curving the ball and he was with his left foot so no excuses there.
ArgVega 07-12-2011, 10:33:PM Zenit is class whatchu talking about boy. Surprised but not shocking. It's not like they haven't been a threat in European tournaments over the last couple of years, besides there amazing run in 2007. Still get flashbacks of that Bayern massacre :(
:facepalm:
Nimreitz 08-12-2011, 09:22:AM Zenit is class whatchu talking about boy. Surprised but not shocking. It's not like they haven't been a threat in European tournaments over the last couple of years, besides there amazing run in 2007. Still get flashbacks of that Bayern massacre :(
That game was like watching my wife get raped in front of me.
Filipower 08-01-2012, 05:17:PM So is this the weekend when we lose the league?
Go Leiria :(
Haarithan 08-01-2012, 07:44:PM Hmm Benfica are winning 2-0 now at Leiria. Still a point at Lisbon isn't a bad result whatsoever...
As it stands though (with Benfica winning):
1. Benfica 14 36
2. Porto 14 34
Filipower 09-01-2012, 12:44:AM No ****, Sherlock.
MaSsiVe 09-01-2012, 03:07:PM what's with the hostility towards the scouser, Fili? :confused2:
this draw didn't satisfy me of course, but truth is that playing at Alvalade is usually tricky for us; in the last few years, we have struggled to get a win there.
a 2-point gap at this stage is nothing considering there's still a huge chunk of the league to play for...let's see how thing go. we still depend exclusively on ourselves to finish top of the table :read:
Filipower 09-01-2012, 03:49:PM Yeah, we depend on ourselves to fire Pereira.
MaSsiVe 09-01-2012, 08:33:PM yeah I got that already, you don't like the coach...and I'm not his greatest fan either, but considering PdC's statement about VP staying for the remainder of his contract should help you realize that whinning about is kind of useless; I advise you to acknowledge the reality and deal with it by supporting our team no matter what...not an easy task atm bro, I know that, but there really shouldn't be another way around it for us true fans.
Filipower 09-01-2012, 08:42:PM I didn't say I don't support the team, you mad bro?
MaSsiVe 09-01-2012, 09:06:PM If you consider the team as a whole, it obviously should include the coach...you know what I mean.
Filipower 10-01-2012, 12:26:PM No no no no no. I love the club man, and the club is bigger than even our President. I disagree with many things he's done, one of them being keeping Vitor Pereira. I also have disliked many players who wore our jersey throughout the years. I always, ALWAYS want Porto to win. That doesn't mean I need to like this guy or that guy.
MaSsiVe 10-01-2012, 03:21:PM I'm not arguing about your liking or disliking of the coach, players or whoever, everyone is entitled to have its own opinion of course...I mean to support them, even when one might not consider them as being the best choices for the team. that's all I'm saying, but maybe I'm just too "romantic" about this matter :tongue:
anyway, one thing that has got me thinking lately...the only logical explanation to have Maicon as our starting RB for this long is that Sapu and Fucile must have both ****ed up badly, like punching each other's face on a training session or something like that. your thoughts?
Filipower 10-01-2012, 06:50:PM I have no idea, really, but it must have something to do with that string of lousy performances. Fucile is most probably leaving, anyway. Unfortunately. Hopefully Danilo isn't a flop!
Azrael 23-01-2012, 10:19:PM Dear fans of the Portuguese league, this week's Question of the Week is about the Portuguese league. It would be great if you could contribute and post your thoughts about the question.
Filipower 29-01-2012, 08:52:PM Thoughts, Massive?
Coruja 29-01-2012, 09:16:PM Oh ****.
MaSsiVe 29-01-2012, 09:54:PM Thoughts, Massive?
http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/arbitros/brunopaixao3.jpg
Filipower 29-01-2012, 11:20:PM So Pereira isn't at fault for ANY of it?
MaSsiVe 29-01-2012, 11:30:PM the thing is, you seem to think VP is at fault for ALL of it...I just can't agree with that and I've explained to you my view about this before.
The refereeing was scandalous and kept us from even trying to stage a decent comeback.
Filipower 29-01-2012, 11:33:PM Yeah, and his coaching is scandalous and will keep us from winning anything this year. You think he's done a good job? Or, not a terrible one?
But of course I still believe it's possible man, and I agree the refereeing was absurd.
MaSsiVe 29-01-2012, 11:55:PM Result-wise, I don't think he's done that bad tbh.
I just don't like what I see on the field, most of the time. Last match against Guimarães I actually got excited with the way we played, it'd been a long time since I saw us playing such fluid football. But now this happens...it's frustrating. The players have a lot to do with it, mind. For large periods during the games they don't seem to show the kind of will we are used to see in the players that wear our shirt...it's like last year everything was so easy and perfect that they now think they don't need to push themselves as much as before for wins to come around.
We desperatly need another striker, someone that we can trust to arrive and start delivering immediately. But that kind of player is not gonna be cheap, and considering the rumours around our financial condition we can only dream about such thing...
Plus another midfielder would be in order (Belluschi and probably also Guarín are as good as gone). Lucho and Ganso have been mentioned a LOT these days but it's probably not gonna happen. Can't say I would mind having El Comandante back. He wouldn't come to be our lord and savior but we definitely have room for a club legend like him.
Filipower 30-01-2012, 12:05:AM So, it had been a long time since you saw us play such fluid football, the players aren't motivated and we need another striker. Well, who's fault is that? (I agree that on the motivation part the players have a share of blame, but not all of it)
Arnau 30-01-2012, 12:08:AM http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/arbitros/brunopaixao3.jpg
Typical Portuguese (H)
MaSsiVe 30-01-2012, 12:25:AM So, it had been a long time since you saw us play such fluid football, the players aren't motivated and we need another striker. Well, who's fault is that? (I agree that on the motivation part the players have a share of blame, but not all of it)
what else do you want me to say? If you read my entire post you'll find the answer to your question there.
This negative cloud surrounding the team is not to be limited to coach and players' fault, it starts above them. If the board and the rest of staff isn't able to create an healthy and stable atmosphere around the team there is no way that we can endure having a team that constantly wins.
I've read and heard a lot of things for the last couple of months that had me thinking wtf is going on in there. We are not used to listening to **** like presidents from other teams saying we owe them money...and I really can't remember something like that envolving us being a matter of public discussion before.
Coruja 30-01-2012, 12:27:AM I saw parts of the game and yes, Porto looked like they were playing a friendly. Lack of motivation and i have to agree with Fili with his hate on VP. In the beginning of the season i said that VP to me was like a younger JJ, he talks too much ****. He should focus on his team moral. They really lack spirit.
Theres still a lot to play, so who knows.
MaSsiVe 30-01-2012, 12:31:AM well, we beating you guys in the next clássico would definitely add likeliness to that "who knows" theory :browsmiley:
Coruja 30-01-2012, 12:32:AM who knows.
Filipower 30-01-2012, 12:32:AM Yeah sure there's still a lot to play, but I'm not too hopeful. I've disliked Pereira since his presentation press conference, so I'm biased even against the (VERY) few things he's done right.
Coruja 30-01-2012, 12:39:AM I was really suprised with Danilo playing already dont know... felt quite strange, looked like he had no more options or something.
Haarithan 30-01-2012, 11:11:AM First defeat in 55 league games. Some record that.
MaSsiVe 30-01-2012, 09:51:PM yeah, we were 1 game away from reaching the 56-game unbeaten record set by Benfica in the 70's, I believe...what a big coincidence this was, that we failed to do it after a match filled with such "curious" events :rolleyes:
so Lucho is back which is mighty awesome, with Belluschi and Guarín on their way to Genoa and Inter respectively I wouldn't mind picking up another midfielder...Ganso is probably way too much for our pocket though.
also Twente's Janko seems to be a strong possibility to fill in our gap at the striker department, hope he's good enough to add real quality to our attacking line.
Coruja 30-01-2012, 09:55:PM bFflhUYBI-c
MaSsiVe 30-01-2012, 10:08:PM that's cool dude, but I don't real understand deutsch..do you? :confused2:
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looks like a strong header of the ball way up from his 1.96m, also seems to know what to with it on his feet.
let's see if he actually joins us, we definitely need someone that can cause an impact right away. too bad he wouldn't be eligible for european matches...
Filipower 30-01-2012, 11:27:PM Yay, a 1m96 guy. Now our football can be even MORE direct and ****ty.
Filipower 31-01-2012, 05:51:PM It's funny how the parallels between the Portuguese and Spanish leagues and Porto/Barça Benfica/Real are continuing from last season to this one. Unfortunately, this time it's worse for the Porto/Barça side.
Arnau 31-01-2012, 06:04:PM We won 3 titles already and still fighting for another 3!
Filipower 31-01-2012, 06:20:PM Yeah, 3 "titles". But the parallels go even there, Porto also won the Supercup. (and played Barça in the European one.)
Coruja 31-01-2012, 06:37:PM Janko's a good player i spotted him since he was in Salzburg, very skillful besides his height, clearly hes not a Kleber. just saying
MaSsiVe 05-02-2012, 08:22:PM Lucho + Janko = (H)
Filipower 05-02-2012, 08:24:PM Luchooooooooooooooo Gonzaleeeeeeez!
MaSsiVe 05-02-2012, 08:27:PM it's like he never left ...what a magnificent player.
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btw, Danilo seems like the real deal...hopefully his performance today means no more Maicon as our RB.
Filipower 05-02-2012, 08:38:PM http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417736_382674355081131_141519349196634_1796519_801 044355_n.jpg
Filipower 17-02-2012, 12:31:AM Holy ****! How ******* lucky were City? Jesus ******* Christ I don't remember a team so deserving to lose actually winning a match. **** me.
rony31 17-02-2012, 07:23:AM Suck it, losers.
Had this been a CL match I probably would add a bit more insight, but I couldn't really be bothered. Also, I was at work and didn't get to watch the match. From what I've read though City didn't deserve to lose at all, but that came from Sky Sports and they may be a bit biased. Regardless, first home loss for Porto all season in any competition. **** ya. Welcome back Yaya.
rony31 17-02-2012, 07:25:AM PS: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7526599/City-to-lodge-UEFA-complaint
When asked about it after the game, Mancini said he did not hear it - but Toure told Sky Sports News that he "heard something".
"That's why we all like the Premier League, because it never happens there," he said.
I sincerely hope that last quote was some sort of trolling effort from Roberto.
MaSsiVe 17-02-2012, 02:54:PM "Maybe in foreign countries they don't expect black players"
Helton, Rolando, Alvaro Pereira, Mangala, Varela, Djalma, Alex Sandro...case rested concerning the idiocy of that statement :facepalm:
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btw I was at the stadium, and heard no racist abuses whatsoever.
It was common to hear people shouting "ó Ballotelli vai-te foder/vai pro caralho!" - which rouhgly translates into "Ballotelli, go **** yourself you cocksucker" - and that isn't by any means racism.
We played a good game overall and certainly didn't deserve to lose.
During the first half especially, we had the control of the game and created the best chances to score. City just wasn't to handle our high pressure.
The draw came out of nowhere really, and was stupidly conceded...our team kind of fell apart emotionally with it, and from then on we weren't as aggressive over the ball how we should have been.
Our best player was Fernando hands down, he was the main responsible for keeping the likes of Silva quiet enough to allow us to boss the midfield during most of the match.
Yaya was a ******* beast out there, it's amazing how gifted he is physical, technical and tactically 8|
having said that, City 1-3 Porto = doable :browsmiley:
Tiago_10 17-02-2012, 05:41:PM btw I was at the stadium, and heard no racist abuses whatsoever.It was common to hear people shouting "ó Ballotelli vai-te foder/vai pro caralho!" - which rouhgly translates into "Ballotelli, go **** yourself you cocksucker" - and that isn't by any means racism.
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I'm guessing they're referring to this.
I reckon these "fans" are part of the Super Cabrões ultras, judging from their seats position in the stands and don't represent the rest of the fans.
What I find disgusting though, besides the incident itself that again, doesn't represent the regular Porto fan, is the cover these animals are getting from PdC himself..
Filipower 17-02-2012, 06:43:PM Yeah they did do that racist thing. I was at the Dragão. Still, they also got in a fight amongst themselves. There's really nothing beneath them, they'll do just about anything as long as it's ignorant and stupid.
And there's no way City deserved to draw that match, let alone win, Rony.
rony31 18-02-2012, 05:46:AM I've still yet to see extended highlights, footytube has let me down for once. Anyone?
Filipower 18-02-2012, 03:52:PM www.tvgolo.com
rony31 20-02-2012, 04:02:PM Most of those highlights are City scoring chances, I don't see how we deserved to lose this game.
Filipower 22-02-2012, 12:34:AM 5 City highlights in which one of them is the own goal which came out of the ******* sky.
4 Porto highlights where one of them is a penalty from Kompany over Hulk.
Plus Danilo was injured. I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible when I say City leaving with even a draw would have been good for them.
rony31 22-02-2012, 04:35:PM You really think that was a penalty? Granted Vinny's arm was outstretched so it clearly wasn't a shoulder tackle but Hulk's too strong to go down that easy.
Sir Calumn 22-02-2012, 05:12:PM Haha 19 seconds!
Whatever people are saying about AVB, Porto sure are missing him.
Haarithan 22-02-2012, 06:16:PM He's right there at Eastlands, watching the game...
Arnau 22-02-2012, 06:39:PM I'm enjoying watching Porto playing, what a player Moutinho is
Haarithan 22-02-2012, 06:52:PM Harsh scoreline really. Porto played the better game tbh, but looked barely threatening upfront. City on the other hand were quite clinical in front of goal. Adios to the defending champions!
Filipower 22-02-2012, 08:31:PM Maybe if our asshole manager had thought about buying a decent striker we wouldn't have so many trouble scoring. Well, unless we miraculously win in the Luz and go on to win the league, at least he's going away.
Coruja 22-02-2012, 09:03:PM Maybe if our asshole manager had thought about buying a decent striker we wouldn't have so many trouble scoring. Well, unless we miraculously win in the Luz and go on to win the league, at least he's going away.
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MaSsiVe 22-02-2012, 10:34:PM Whinningos? No thanks.
Didn't get to watch the match (someone's gotta work in this country), and after knowing the final score I was kind of shocked but after viewing the highlights it seems like we had a couple of chances to get back into the game before that catastrophic last quarter of an hour...oh well, I guess after conceding after 16 seconds one could tell this was not gonna be a good day for us.
Fili I would obviously also sacrifice replacing VP if it means we become champions, although the ideal scenario would be us winning the league and have a random arabian team forking out the millions for his absurd release clause (H)
Filipower 22-02-2012, 10:38:PM Haha that would be good. Although I'm now absolutely bitter and biased against tycoon-bought teams. I feel for the other teams in the EPL who have to face Chelsea and City. (I know, I know, Man Utd were bought as well, and it's not like other EPL teams don't have money, but you know what I'm talking about: a sugar daddy who spends dozens of millions of pounds to get the best team only REALLY exists in Chelsea and City)
Sir Calumn 23-02-2012, 07:10:AM Malaga and PSG are going that way aswell.
I know what you mean - there does seem something wrong with the idea of throwing money to solve every problem. Often backfires, as Chelsea in particular have shown us, but also I would be frustrated if I was a United or Arsenal fan, having two teams jump up to the top level with them all of a sudden without really deserving it.
For the record, as much as I love and am devoted to Chelsea, I miss the old pre-Abramovich Chelsea. I enjoyed our UEFA cup nights, and when winning the FA cup actually meant something to us!
rony31 25-02-2012, 05:32:AM http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7539763/Porto-prepare-Hulk-complaint
Porto are preparing to make a complaint to UEFA after Manchester City taunted striker Hulk during Wednesday's Europa League tie between the two sides.
The Portuguese club are unhappy with City chanting "you're not incredible" at Brazilian striker Hulk during City's 4-0 win at the Etihad Stadium.
Please tell me this is some sort of joke. You're going to lodge a complaint because fans are taunting an opposing player in a non-racist manner? Hahahahahahahahahaha.
yoyo913 25-02-2012, 07:00:AM It's hulk's god given right to be incredible. How rude!
But really this quote is one of the funniest soccer related things I have read, it can't be true!
The Portuguese club are unhappy with City chanting "you're not incredible" at Brazilian striker Hulk during City's 4-0 win at the Etihad Stadium.
Coruja 25-02-2012, 03:20:PM What a joke
Filipower 03-03-2012, 12:17:AM http://www.portugoal.net/images/stories/Porto2011/Portocelebsclassico.gif
MaSsiVe 03-03-2012, 02:13:AM WuMyYvqlIkk
this sums it up well (H)
PORTO!
Coruja 03-03-2012, 03:04:AM LOL
That Janko.
Filipower 29-04-2012, 09:09:PM Checkmate.
Filipower 29-04-2012, 09:18:PM Ha (H)
Jorge Jesus tem acordo com o FC Porto
Jorge Jesus já falou com a estrutura diretiva do FC Porto e há acordo para assumir o comando técnico dos dragões a partir da próxima temporada. O único obstáculo, neste momento, prende-se com a rescisão de contrato entre o Benfica e o técnico de 57 anos.
O zerozero.pt está em condições de avançar que o atual treinador dos encarnados já conversou com altas figuras da direção portista - entre eles o presidente Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa - nas últimas semanas e que foi alcançado um acordo para que Jorge Jesus suceda a Vítor Pereira no banco dos dragões na próxima época.
Neste momento, e para que a ligação entre Jorge Jesus e o FC Porto se concretize, falta confirmar a rescisão de contrato entre o treinador e as águias, situação que deverá acontecer assim que a atual temporada encerrar, de acordo com fontes próximas da Luz.
As boas relações entre Pinto da Costa, presidente do FC Porto, e Jorge Jesus nunca foram escondidas pelas partes e a chegada do treinador português ao comando técnico dos dragões acaba por ser o concretizar de um «namoro antigo.»
Jesus, que chegou ao Benfica no início da temporada de 2009/2010, esteve muito perto de assinar pelo FC Porto antes de rumar à Luz e, já depois do título de campeão conquistado ao serviço do Benfica, seria novamente abordado pelo FC Porto, acabando por renovar com as águias.
http://www.zerozero.pt/noticia.php?id=61687
fender 06-05-2012, 06:02:AM The team having blue and white hair. :Devil:
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Coruja 06-05-2012, 02:32:PM Even with the "worst" coach of Porto in this last few years, they're champions again. This proves that Benfica management and im not talking only about Jesus, is just pure ****. So many millions of euros invested in the squad and what we won? LEAGUE CUP!!! YEAHHH! This is Benfica nowadays.
Congratulations to Porto i guess.
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