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It will be a rough time for all the European fans of football.:browsmiley: Waking up in the middle of night is the only crap thing about this tournament. I'm going to bed soon because I don't want to miss the opening.:) I'm going to cheer for the Uruguay as usual.

How about your favourites and predictions?

Yes, bad time for Europeans, but with a help of coffee it will be good. My favorites are Uruguay and Brazil.
Argentina should easily win first match against Bolivia. Lets hope for good football! Clock alarm is set...

With Mexico sending their U20ish squad, I have no expectations. It would be nice for Gio to rally them to a quarterfinals run, but it might be too much to ask. I was really looking forward to seeing JDS and Nestor Calderon play, but they decided to get robbed by hookers in Ecuador. :rolleyes:

Looking forward to this, I love me some South American football! Watching Argentina later.

I'm rooting for Albicelestes. Vamos Leo!

Oh yeah I'm hoping for a Brasil-Colombia final (if it's possible, if not then the obvious Brasil-Argentina). Brasil hits close to the heart, but Colombia has Falcao/Guarin (H)

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Luis + Edinson + Diego ftw ...

Messi + Aguero + Higuain > *

Guess who picked the first fight of the probable countless that will occur in the tournament. Yep, that little angel Lionel.

WTF the game started?? Why is it starting in 30 minutes on my tv? Damn

Decided to stay up for this game but it's disappointing so far. Hoping to see more combinations from Argentina in attack, because they all seem to play a little selfish, and I'm disappointed Aguero's not playing in favor of Lavezzi. Also, I think Tevez is an AMAZING player, but wouldn't Aguero be a nicer compliment to Messi? Tevez can be a bit of a blind bull sometimes.

Agreed on all counts, I should have gone to bed. Still, I'm hoping for a better second half, hopefully with El Kun or Pastore making an entrance.

FFS, Cambiasso-Mascherano-Banega, in the Copa América opening game in front of your home crowd and against Bolivia? Damn.

Cambiasso is playing well as false 9 but this team is too slow and predictable, every player make a lot of touches before passing. Pastore and Di María should come in.

Argentina all the wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Banega **** the bed.

If whoever that Bolivian forward didn't suck, they'd be beating Argentina 2-0. This game is pretty pathetic.

Agüero is the ******* Romário, can't believe him and Di María aren't starters. PLEASE don't play Messi as midfielder anymore, he can't hurt as much as he does close to the box.

Agüero is the ******* Romário, can't believe him and Di María aren't starters. PLEASE don't play Messi as midfielder anymore, he can't hurt as much as he does close to the box.yup, Pastore where Messi is, and Messi further up as the false 9 (the invisible Carlitos might as well have not been out there so far) ... I like Pocho Lavezzi, but Kun should be starting (what a finish!), with Di María as the classic winger on the other side ...

Kun should have started and his price just went up by 5 mil. euros...

I'm rooting for Colombia, would have chose Uruguay but then the argument would be that winning the Copa that preceded a South American World Cup should equal them becoming 5x world champions...btw pretty cool having this streaming on YouTube.

Wow wtf??? Batista needs to understand Cambiasso and Banega are not Xavi and Iniesta. He needs to play a creative Midfielder for **** sake!

He needs to play Pastore with Banega and Mascherano doing all the defensive work. He also needs to start Mess/Aguero/Di Maria.

I'm afraid however that Argentina will never be a team, they are just a bunch of players trying to be Maradona. No one passes the ****ing ball when they are close to the box.

Wow wtf??? Batista needs to understand Cambiasso and Banega are not Xavi and Iniesta. He needs to play a creative Midfielder for **** sake!

He needs to play Pastore with Banega and Mascherano doing all the defensive work. He also needs to start Mess/Aguero/Di Maria.

If you want them to play like Barça then everyone should do the defensive work.

Wow a draw against Bolivia at home. :S

Kun should have started and his price just went up by 5 mil. euros...
Oh sh*t! ;) I'll be so heartbroken when Juve doesn't end up signing him after all. What a goal and what a player.

Argentina's manager needs to step up his game, man, what a bad line-up tonight. I agree with pretty much everything that's been said here already. Aguero and Di Maria must start the next game.

If you want them to play like Barça then everyone should do the defensive work.

I don't think they should. Bolivia pressed and closed the spaces, Banega, Mascherano, Cambiasso did not have the touch or ability to create spaces or even trap the ball successfully.

I think playing Pastore would have been a better choice against a team who was closing the spaces. Also I think Tevez was lost in this system, Lavezzi didn't do terrible but Aguero and Di Maria played much better on the wings.

If Batista wants them to play like Barcelona he must teach them to pass the ball

And make some preassure, starting for the fowards. Man, Bolivia's 10 is Joselito Vaca.

Argentina vs Colombia next should be a good one.

Was it just me or did it seem that anytime Messi touched the ball, his teammates just stood there in awe? He's playing too far back, by the time he beats 3-4 players, another batch of players are waiting.

Oh and Lacezzi and Tevez couldn't finish for ****. Messi kept setting them up and they kept ******* it up. No idea why Aguero is a sub. It's unfair the level of skill they have, and they still can't seem to play up to their standards.

Enough talk about Argentina, time to give it up to Bolivia. Their lack of mistakes and pressing in this game was awesome... I actually liked this game very much once Bolivia were up 1-0. The captain's tackle on Di Maria when he was running at the goalie was equal to watching a nice goal.

SG drinking game: Take a shot every time you see Xifio write "false 9" in a post.

haha ... I suggest it should also include occurrences in Nim's and Arnau's posts ... otherwise the only one who'd get drunk would be Az ...


oh, almost forgot: false 9!

The man who plans his 5 minute breaks distractions thinks he can outdrink me? I'd love to see that.

Argentina all the way

Serves Menezes right for not calling Marcelo or Hulk.

Argentina couldn't win because Batista decided to play 3 defensive midfielders, and now it was Brasil's manager who screwed them up. Who the **** are these guys?

Banega is not defensive but yeah, Hulk, Marcelo and Nilmar are missed.

Serves Menezes right for not calling Marcelo or Hulk.

Argentina couldn't win because Batista decided to play 3 defensive midfielders, and now it was Brasil's manager who screwed them up. Who the **** are these guys?

It's like Brazil and Argentina took a look at who's been successful in modern football (Pep, Low) and said "**** it, let's just pick a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, but says all the right things."

He didn't pick Hulk. 8|

Brazil and Argentina matches were jokes. Where is Hulk? :(

4 games, 3 goals and stale performances basically all-round so far...not cool :willis:

First draw between Venezuela and Brazil in Copa America history.... LOL
I am from Venezuela and im celebrated this match like a Epic Victory =D.

Copa America Overall Goal-Scoring Statistics, after Group A and B games:

Games Played = 4
Goals Scored = 3

Terrible.

I would not be surprised if Argentina and Brazil do not play eachother in the final.

Where is Hulk? :(

WHAT? I thought Hulk played for Portugal!

Dude.. he's got one of those kick-ass Brazilian nicknames.

4 games, 3 goals and stale performances basically all-round so far...not cool :willis:did you watch any matches/highlights of the Gold Cup? the Copa América isn't as bad in terms of quality of play, but the comparison isn't out of the question -- and that's pretty bad ... the star players (apart from Kun in his short cameo) have underwhelmed so far ...

It doesn't seem like Brazil has the talent that they usually do. And Argentina... **** man, they haven't got the tactics right in their history ever. Maybe 78. Even when Maradona was leading them to glory, their team was grinding out results and not dominating.

if Mexico's team from Gold Cup would have gone, surely they would have made it all the way to the final.

looking forward to the Uruguay match ... won't mind if they too start the tournament slow; it's important to build towards peaking in the final ...

It doesn't seem like Brazil has the talent that they usually do. And Argentina... **** man, they haven't got the tactics right in their history ever. Maybe 78. Even when Maradona was leading them to glory, their team was grinding out results and not dominating.Brazil have more talented young flair players making their senior tournament debuts than they have had in recent years ... however, I don't think either Brasiu or Argentina are as daunting as they've been in years past ... and neither is too likeable [for me] as a unit ... I think that makes the competition more of a level playing field -- so it doesn't rule out the usual suspects, but it certainly lends itself to seeing Uruguay, Chile, or Colombia taking the cup ...

for all the flair they have up front, the Argies having Gaby Milito and Burdisso hold fort at the back is pretty laughable ...

Brazil's youngsters had a lot to prove already; and even more so now ... Santos, for one, will be hoping that the big numbers being touted for Ganso, and especially Neymar, aren't forcibly dwindled by several 0s due to an unimpressive Copa ...

also, Nilmar and Hulk should be in the squad ... Fred being picked is a joke ... just highlights how shockingly, and sadly, poor Brazil's #9 options are ...

Otamendi missing out is also stupid. It seems only the Colombia manager watched Porto's season.


And Banega not a defensive mid? Well, he's not Pastore, either.

looking forward to the Uruguay match ... won't mind if they too start the tournament slow; it's important to build towards peaking in the final ...and they do ... Cachavacha had the chance to win it, but oh well ...

was the best match of the Copa so far, despite Peru's goal coming straight from the English handbook:

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The Elephant Graveyard <---- That is the name of the stadium where Argentina plays their next group game today. 30 minutes to kickoff!!!!

The "Elephants Graveyard" has played host to a string of major upsets through the years. The home club team, a relatively small team, has toppled some powerhouse visiting teams at this stadium. The stadium has hosted many big upsets.

A team from Santos visited and lost at this stadium. The year was some time in the 1960s.
Question: Who was the Brazilian superstar playing on that Santos team?
Answer: Pele.

Come on Colombia!!! COME ON COLOMBIA!!!!!!

WTF?! Kun on the bench, Lavezzi starter?! Again?!

I don't understand how Argentina sucks this bad.

Lavezzi? WHO?
Ever Banega? HUH?

Those 2 guys need to be replaced by Higuain and Sergio Aguero.

And, against Colombia, Argentina needs to play with 1 DM. They need to get rid of that old man Cambiasso.....bring on an extra attacher...bring in his Inter teammate Diego Milito*.

*assuming he is in the Copa America squad

I agree. Argentina needs more attachers. Whatever that is...


And criminal miss by Moreno.

Not the ofensive is where they suck. Man, Tevez - Messi - Lavezzi. 99% of teams are dreaming of this. Argentina really needs a creative mid, and get rid of Cambiasso, so play with 1 DM. They always start the attack from defenders with direct passes to Messi or Tevez...

On paper those three forwards look great, but watching them play is more of Messi doing 80% of the work and Lavezzi / Tevez taking turns missing shots. It's pathetic to watch.

Absurd. Argentina won't go anywhere with thise line-up, and I agree with skip, Tevez-Messi-Lavezzi aren't working well together. Aguero and Di Maria with Messi would be much more dangerous, even more so with Pastore behind them.

At least Colombia is providing some good football here and there...

On paper those three forwards look great, but watching them play is more of Messi doing 80% of the work and Lavezzi / Tevez taking turns missing shots. It's pathetic to watch.

But imagine this team with someone doing Messi's creative work, and him to finalise along with Tevez and Lavezzi. Bring Kun, the guy is gold.

ok 0-0 at half time.

1. The Colombian wingers (Moreno and Ramos) like to get forward a LOT. Their RB and LB also like to get forward. That seems to be creating a lot of chances down the right and left wings. So far, the right wing has produced Argentina's best chances......but they haven't converted. That miss by Lavezzi was their best chance, although it din't come from the wing. They need to exploit the gaps on the wings.

2. Argentina's defense looks like complete sh*t! If Colombia keeps creating chances, they WILL score. Milito looks very slow and Zanetti wants to move up the field every chance he gets. There were large gaps in the Argentina defense at the end of the 1st half. Colombia has actually come closer to scoring a goal than Argentina.

3. Carlos Tevez is not having a good Copa America, so far. He is not linking up well with Messi today.

The problem is Argentina is trying to play like Barcelona and don't have the quality to do so. Argentina's worst problem is the midfield, Batista can't play those Banega/Cambiasso/Mascherano they have no clue what's going on in the game, they don't move and don't pass well enough to get any fluidity in the game. Also Tevez/Lavezzi are not Pedro and Villa and they stand in their places not going to ask for the ball to take pressure off Messi, also they don't create spaces by doing movement.

Batista needs to play Pastore or get more creative mids, or change the system to a 4-4-2 with Messi paired up with Kun or Tevez. In the WC at least Argentina can score an ****ing goal, it's clear the system is not up to par.

Banega is supposed to be the creative MF like Xabi. Hahaha! He's not even close.

Banega is supposed to be the creative MF like Xabi. Hahaha! He's not even close.

Haha the entire Argentina team can't trap or pass the ball without at least 5 touches, it's pathetic.

there was a clear foul on Ramos right before Moreno missed the open net...and a red card for Burdisso too.

Messi is being kept quiet by the colombians, I'd bring Pastore and Aguero in to help him out...Lavezzi is having another poor performance and that midfield is way too conservative.

Dun dun dun... Kun's coming in.

0-0, Gago in...Baptista is officially on acids

What a play by Colombia! That deserved to be a goal.

Guarín and Falcao are tearing it up (H)

Guarin is a beeeeeeeeast.

Why is he playing on the wing?

meh, another 0-0 :S

it's do or die now for Argentina against Costa Rica...


btw, Freddy Guarín: LIKE A BOSS.

If the Argentines caused all that commotion from River being relegated, imagine if Costa Rica would beat them and they were left out of the cup? (H)

Leo played too deep once again ... Cuchu should have stayed on (Gago? wtf? really?), with Pastore (not Pipita) coming on in place of Carlitos ...


for all the flair they have up front, the Argies having Gaby Milito and Burdisso hold fort at the back is pretty laughable ...hah, my statement is promptly vindicated; their defending was matched only by the finishing of Adrián Ramos and Dayro Moreno ...


Guarin is a beeeeeeeeast.yeah, he was really impressive!

Falcao, too, oozed class in his touches, but -- for whatever reason -- was not consistently close enough to the goal to have more than one clear chance that ended up being well-saved ...

the Italian wingbacks, especially Armero, acquitted themselves well too ...

Leo played too deep once again

Erm... unless he was in the back line, how exactly do you think he plays at Barca? He's not Michael Owen.

yeah, he needs to be a false nine, not an attacking central midfielder ... he came back to the halfway line to pick the up the ball far too often ...

false nine.

yeah, he needs to be a false nine, not an attacking central midfielder ... he came back to the halfway line to pick the up the ball far too often ...

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I watch every Barça match, and I felt Leo dropped too deep too often in this match, and thus got crowded out by the midfield ...

but you are free to disagree, and also post pics that show nothing more than 2 instances of him dropping deep ...

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This reminds me of weebl and bob. Both the redundancy of Xifilo's argument and Argentina's 0-0 draw.

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How many times have you seen him in this position at Argentina in the past 2-3 years?

What a terrible game. I fell asleep during the last 10 minutes.

Colombia deserved to win this game. They missed atleast 3 excellent chances...1 in the first half and atleast 2 in the 2nd half. Terrible finishing is what cost them the points.

Argentina do NOT have a creative MF. They NEED Messi to be a creative MF.....NOT a goal-scorer. He has to create the chances, not finish them, because no one else is able to create ANY chances.

When playing for Argentina, Messi should take on the role of Xavi. He should be the playmaker. There are others who can score goals.....Tevez, Higuain and Aguero. Maybe even consider Di Maria(although I can't stand him). They needa 4-1-2-1-2 system:
GK
4 defenders
DM - Mascherano
RW-LW = maybe Tevez and Di Maria
Creative MF = Messi
FW = Higuain and Aguero

BTW, they should try out soon-to-be former Liverpool superstar Maxi Rodriguez on the RW. He can really do some damage there.

There is no way that Argentina will lose to Costa Rica's "Olympic" squad. Costa Rica, just like Mexico, have not taken their regulars.......Costa Rica won't win. Even a draw is highly unlikely.

Argentina will win that game, but the question becomes can they beat Uruguay, Paraguay or Chile?

really entertaining match between Uruguay and Chile, best of the lot hands down.
1-1 was an acceptable result in the end but Chile showed they have something else, I see them going far in the competition...Alexis was very lively, great goal and mad skillz.

yeah, most entertaining match of the tournament so far ... the draw was fair ...

I thought Uruguay was the better team in the first half -- the 4-3-3, with Álvaro Pereira as a left-sided carillero in midfield, worked really well ... and their high pressure was really telling ... Luisito really should have buried his golden chance with more composure, instead of lasering it off the bar and out ...

but once they took Cavani off and switched to 4-4-2 in the second half, I think they lost a bit of penetration ... they did score, but it was some slack defending from Chile that allowed Suárez to get the ball and create the assist for the goal ...

Alexis took his goal really well with a toe-poke shot ... and if it wasn't for a brilliant diving save from Nene Muslera, he'd have had a match-winning assist too ...

This is pathetic. Mexico with 5 defenders against ******* Peru. I'm better off taking a nap.

I'm just holding out hope Gio pulls a Messi and scores. Otherwise this looks like another boring 0-0 game.

Chile 1 - Uruguay 1

Thanks for Living.
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First off, I'm shocked thjat Costa Rica beat Bolivia. I stopped watching after the 1st half because I was convinced that Bolivia was going to win 1-0.

Anywyas, Brazil 2-2 Paraguay. Really diosappointing finish. Paraguay just stood around and let Brazil equalize. They basically lost the game.....Brazil didn't win it. Disappointing ending.

Quiz:

When is the last time you saw Brazil celebrate a tie?


BTW, my favorite team of the tourney is Chile, they play very well together have fluid passing and move the ball quickly. I think they will win the copa

We have a crap tournament so far. But at least the fans are hot!

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Quiz:

When is the last time you saw Brazil celebrate a tie?


BTW, my favorite team of the tourney is Chile, they play very well together have fluid passing and move the ball quickly. I think they will win the copa

never saw that........:clapwap:

anthony, i supported ecuador or brazil, now i gotta support paraguay lol(Y)(Y)(Y)

We have a crap tournament so far. But at least the fans are hot!........
...now i gotta support paraguay lol(Y)(Y)(Y)

1. Fake.
2. Don't spoil this thread with that worthless content. The games are far more interesting than the same useless material that pops up every time a major tournament rolls around. Just ignore it and focus on the tournament, on the field.

Good game from him again

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Good game from him again

eXs93KbBCgY

lol:innocent_smile_1::innocent_smile_1:

1. Fake.
2. Don't spoil this thread with that worthless content. The games are far more interesting than the same useless material that pops up every time a major tournament rolls around. Just ignore it and focus on the tournament, on the field.
Right. It's not THAT bad. At least this tournament is more entertaining to watch than Liverpool. Nevertheless, it's not THAT hard either.

right. It's not that bad. At least this tournament is more entertaining to watch than liverpool. Nevertheless, it's not that hard either.

IN ANTHONY WE TRUST!!!!!!(Y)

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HALF TIME:
ARgentina 1-0 Costa Rica

Goal came at the end of the 1st half, from a rebound. Aguerro tapped it in.

Argentina has had so many chances though. They have not converted. This goal was quite a luck goal, to be quite honest.

The fans are singing either:
Ole Ole ole ole Diegooooooo Diegoooooooo

OR

Ole Ole ole ole Aguerroooooo Aguerrrooooooo

....It's not THAT bad. At least this tournament is more entertaining to watch than Liverpool. Nevertheless, it's not THAT hard either.

It is! You are kidding yourself if you say that it isn't.

Messi back with a bang, what a masterful performance he put on.

argentina won

Final: Argentina 3-0 Costa Rica

From a neutral's point of view, this was a horrible game. Costa Rica was playing for a draw. They didn't do SH*T in the 1st half. In the 2nd half, after falling behind 3-0 they started creating chances towards the end of the game.....why the hell would you wait that long? Seriously! When they attacked, they really should have scored.....there was a header from a corner and the Costa Rica player was wide open on that header. I mean, you know Argentina's got a useless defense.....try and push them sooner rather than later.

In the 2nd half, it seemed like every time an Argentina player got the ball, there was NO Costa Rica player around him......he could stand in one place for 5 seconds before passing the ball. That's BULLSH*T! I don't want to watch that! Even I could look like Maradona if I was given that much time to think. The problem is that Costa Rica wanted a draw, after they fell behind they just gave up and let Argentina walk all over them. They didn't put up a fight at all!

This game was NOT a preview of what Argentina will be facing in the knockout stages.

BTW:
1. Argentina's finishing was HORRIBLE! They missed so many good opportunities. The8r finishing has been very bad throughout this tournament so far.
2. Tevez did not play this game. At the end of the game, Lavezzi came on and the fans were chanting Tevez' name.

I think Falcao and Colombia have a good chance. Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay look much better than Brazil and Argentina as well.

I expected more from Ganso and Neymar, Brazil badly feels a playmaker void, Kaka or even current Ronaldinho could be more useful. Pato, Nilmar and Robinho are competing for the best missed chance of the tournament.

Schedule and timing is very weird.

Kaka is not a playmaker.

Why is Alexis on the bench? Does anyone know?

Because he has a yellow card and could miss the 1/4 if recive another one. Anyway, thats stupid by the coach 'cause they are not qualified yet...

Chile's line-up is missing a bunch of starters, Alexis, Vidal, Isla, Medel...so is Peru anyway, Guerrero and Rodríguez for example.
guess both coaches are relying that a draw will be enough to see their team through as one of the best two 3rd placed teams.

Chile and Peru qualified both! Chile won 1-0

2 goals in 3 matches for Alvaro Pereira...not bad for a left-back (H)

Forlan wearing a girl's hair-band.......as usual.

Mexico is getting destroyed,.....not surprising when you consider that their first team coach and the majority of their first team players are NOT at this tournament.

Final: Uruguay 1-0 Mexico

Uruguay missed far too many opportunities. Their defense looks shaky. Over the last 30 minutes, Mexico played quite well and created a lot of chances....quite frankly, that is UNACCEPTABLE for Uruguay. They should have torn apart a U-22 team..,....they didn't.

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So one QF has been determined:
TEAMS: Argentina vs Uruguay
DATE: Saturday 16 July
TIME: 6:15 EST

Both teams have terrible defenses and both teams missed a lot of opportunities. I don't think that this game will produce as many goals as Brazil-Paraguay but it should be equally exciting as that game was.

hah, Cachavacha can't catch a break in front of goal; unbelievable he didn't notch at least a brace ... damn commentator is still ringing in my ear: "se[eeeeeeee] la[aaaaaaaa] pe[eeeeee]rdió[oooooooo]!"

Plata derby. And yet I couldn't care less.

No team got 9 pts in the group stage.

Mexico from Gold Cup probably would have been the only the team to get 9pts, but oh well.

Then why didn't they value the tournament enough to send their A team?

That is what I find so frustrating about this tournament: the 2 guests are sending massively understrength teams! Clearly, the tournament organizers need to find better guest teams if this is going to keep happening.

Mexico is invited because of their large TV audience.....tell me something...would Australia not bring in a large TV audience? I think they would. What about inviting an African team....perhaps Cameroon or Nigeria? Or go with South Africa, if you want to stay in the Southern Hemisphere. I doubt that those countries would not bring in a large TV audience. And I would tend to believe that they would bring in as strong a team as possible.

I mean, you've got to change it up. You've just got to. You know, before I saw the Mexican roster, I thought FOR SURE that Group C was the Group of Death. That's turned out to be laughable.

Don't flatter yourself....Mexico would NOT go from 0 points to 9 points with their regulars. This is not the Gold Cup, where there's one other good/semi-good team for them to worry about. Here all the teams are ATLEAST at their skill level...the majority are at a much higher level than them.

Dunno if I've said this before but does anyon else see jizmorrison whenever he posts?

As scary as it might be, I agree with newbie. If the Concacrap is gonna put restrictions on the invitees, the COMENBOL should revoke their invites. That was a total disgrace.


hah, Cachavacha can't catch a break in front of goal; unbelievable he didn't notch at least a brace ... damn commentator is still ringing in my ear: "se[eeeeeeee] la[aaaaaaaa] pe[eeeeee]rdió[oooooooo]!"

I can't stand that commentator. He's even more annoying than the dude on Telemundo.

Don't flatter yourself....Mexico would NOT go from 0 points to 9 points with their regulars. This is not the Gold Cup, where there's one other good/semi-good team for them to worry about. Here all the teams are ATLEAST at their skill level...the majority are at a much higher level than them.


the only reason Mexico didn't value the tourney is because concacaf placed restrictions on them, forcing Mexico to take a sub 22 team not to mention the doping scandal and whoring which resulted in 8 starters from the Sub 22 being removed from Mexico.

I said probably, and the only reason this would maybe be true is because the Mexican team would have had an advantage over their rivals by having trained more and played more before the copa america so they would have had more playing rythm unlike their south american opponents.

Mexico is currently just below the level of Brazil and argie but at the same as Paraguay,Chile, and Uruguay.

enough said. :browsmiley:

On the paper, Mexico is currently just below the level of Brazil and argie but at the same as Paraguay,Chile, and Uruguay.


FYP.

FYP.

what paper, lmao. :clapwap:

I can't stand that commentator. He's even more annoying than the dude on Telemundo.haha ... this is actually my first experience watching a full footie tournament on the Latin American networks ...

for whatever reason, we get Telefutura / the Univision channel set in HD in the apartment, so I decided to watch it on TV instead of digging up streams, or watching it on youtube in this case ...

I'm tolerating the loud guy just coz we also get to hear the thoughts of Hugo Sánchez, a living legend ... like listening to him defend Leo's penalty-box dive against Costa Rica (from a striker's point of view) was hilarious -- he basically said that any contact [however minimal] by a defender on an attacker, without touching the ball, is a penalty (H) ...

man, what a blunder by Julio Cesar...
great finish to the first half, I feel Ecuador is going to pull a shocker on this one (H)

Ganso looks like Riquelme.

again Caicedo and again...Julio Cesar :facepalm:

2-2 with half an hour to go, good game

...make that 3-2 Brazil!

FFS, someone please blowtorch Neymar's "hair"

Florentino will.

seriously, it's like a dead raccoon is glued to his skull

.......damn commentator is still ringing in my ear: "se[eeeeeeee] la[aaaaaaaa] pe[eeeeee]rdió[oooooooo]!"

0:47 to 0:54 - dNogTSOgvfw&feature

...good game......

Brazil's defense has NOT been convincing at all.

Luck for them, Santa Cruz is injured.

Massive facepalm from Paraguay giving away that two goal lead.

Luck for them, Santa Cruz is injured.
Yes, but Venezuela still played very well and I can say that Venezuela deserved a Epic draw.

haha ... this is actually my first experience watching a full footie tournament on the Latin American networks ...

for whatever reason, we get Telefutura / the Univision channel set in HD in the apartment, so I decided to watch it on TV instead of digging up streams, or watching it on youtube in this case ...

I'm tolerating the loud guy just coz we also get to hear the thoughts of Hugo Sánchez, a living legend ... like listening to him defend Leo's penalty-box dive against Costa Rica (from a striker's point of view) was hilarious -- he basically said that any contact [however minimal] by a defender on an attacker, without touching the ball, is a penalty (H) ...

Hugo might be a legend, but he's a terrible analyst.

When Mexico played, he always brought up his stupid theory about how he wanted to change the Mexican traditional uniform to red, because it stood out more. About halfway through a game I just wish he shuts the **** up.

I'm not impressed by Ganso at all.

Brazil should face Paraguay again, what a stupid draw.

I'm not impressed by Ganso at all.

Brazil should face Paraguay again, what a stupid draw.

agree..........

Goooooool

agree..........

Me too! Hate draws!

Guarín! almost an awesome goal :(

Colombia paid the price for missing so many opportunities, also their keeper was responsible for both goals. Moreno was Colombia’s best player and with some luck, he could score.

Excellent game for Vargas, he’s one of those players who give character to his team.

Well at least we've got Guarin and Falcao back.

Argentina vs. Uruguay should be a good match as well.

Cavani's left out and Argentina lineup is same as Costa Rica.

good for Vargas, repping calcio at the Copa ...

José Paolo Guerrero is so clutch for Peru: 3 matches, 2 goals, 1 assist, all crucial ...


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the next match better be as good as it promises to be ...

"sabremos cumplir"? you better, Uruguay, you better ...

shame Cavani hasn't passed the fitness test to start ...

Yeah, Guerrero had a great performance in this copa, just checked his club stats, it was really poor!!!! why? maybe injuries.

wow, no matter what happens on pens, Nene Muslera MoM ...

Luisito looked exhausted quite early in extra time ... shame, coz there were a couple of moments when a short signature dribble against Argentina's tired centre-backs (who were both on a yellow each) may well have yielded the winner ...

Well I guess that serves Batista right...

wow, no matter what happens on pens, Nene Muslera MoM ...

Luisito looked exhausted quite early in extra time ... shame, coz there were a couple of moments when a short signature dribble against Argentina's tired centre-backs (who were both on a yellow each) may well have yielded the winner ...

How bout his acting to get Mascherano sent off???

We'll Tevez missed the penalty, I guess it's Messi's fault they lost...

wow, no matter what happens on pens, Nene Muslera MoM ...and even more so after pens! what a champion performance from the Lazio man! :33vff3o:




Well I guess that serves Batista right...don't know if he could have done anything more in this match ... his forwards came up against an inspired keeper, and his ace of spades couldn't conjure up magic that would render the opposition mere spectators ...




We'll Tevez missed the penalty, I guess it's Messi's fault they lost...haha ... well, the Copa ended up similar to the World Cup: Leo was at the heart of most every attack, got assists, but didn't score when they needed him to most, and his team got knocked out in the quarters ...




Luisito looked exhausted quite early in extra time ... shame, coz there were a couple of moments when a short signature dribble against Argentina's tired centre-backs (who were both on a yellow each) may well have yielded the winner ...How bout his acting to get Mascherano sent off???as always, I'm against it, and Luis is notorious for going down theatrically:Luis Suárez is a perfect counterexample to the technical players who've flopped in England ... he's never been a physical player, and the way he used to dive when in physical contests in Holland made a lot of people doubt his ability to handle the Prem ... but he's already set the league alight in 6 months -- saving his best for Man U, no less ...from the camera angle we got on telly, it was obvious it was a foul, but maybe not deserving a yellow ... but from the reverse angle, which is where the ref saw the incident from, it definitely looks worthy of a yellow, which is what Mascherano got ...

WTF was doing Messi as RMF.

and even more so after pens! what a champion performance from the Lazio man! :33vff3o:




don't know if he could have done anything more in this match ... his forwards came up against an inspired keeper, and his ace of spades couldn't conjure up magic that would render the opposition mere spectators ...




haha ... well, the Copa ended up similar to the World Cup: Leo was at the heart of most every attack, got assists, but didn't score when they needed him to most, and his team got knocked out in the quarters ...




as always, I'm against it, and Luis is notorious for going down theatrically:from the camera angle we got on telly, it was obvious it was a foul, but maybe not deserving a yellow ... but from the reverse angle, which is where the ref saw the incident from, it definitely looks worthy of a yellow, which is what Mascherano got ...


LOL name me the last time an Argentine player played a pass for Messi in position to score. What is Messi supposed to do, pass the ball to himself and score a goal??? Also you clearly don't watch the games, Argentina has been knocked out twice because of their inability to defend properly, Germany put 4 past them, and the defence was abismal today at times when Uruguay had a free kick. Let me guess Messi is to blame for that too.

Batista should have left Aguero and Di Maria who were doing much more than Tevez and Pastore. Also Madrid needs to play Gago, he's had a good copa since he came on.


BTW, I'm root for Chile now, GOOO ALEXIS!!!

Argentina didn't take advantage when they were one man up for so long. Tevez's penalty was horrible, all of Uruguay's were well taken.

u guys think brasil will win against paraguay? i hope so

WTF was doing Messi as RMF.

You should be happy overall, he comes back sooner and without injury.

How bout his acting to get Mascherano sent off???

We'll Tevez missed the penalty, I guess it's Messi's fault they lost...

As soon as he got the first yellow, I knew the second one is coming. Uruguay played very iteligent.

At least that missed penalty made Manchester and Mancini so happy.
Messi played OK but everyone should understand that comparing Argentina and Barca is wrong. Barca have 10 warriors behind Messi (+ couple on the bench). While, Argentina doesn't have same amount of cohision and teamwork.

u guys think brasil will win against paraguay? i hope so

+1, I hope to see a good game from Neymar and Pato. Paraguay coach said we should stop Ganso, what did he do when he wasnot stopped?:blush:

LOL name me the last time an Argentine player played a pass for Messi in position to score. What is Messi supposed to do, pass the ball to himself and score a goal??? Also you clearly don't watch the games, Argentina has been knocked out twice because of their inability to defend properly, Germany put 4 past them, and the defence was abismal today at times when Uruguay had a free kick. Let me guess Messi is to blame for that too.

Batista should have left Aguero and Di Maria who were doing much more than Tevez and Pastore. Also Madrid needs to play Gago, he's had a good copa since he came on.


BTW, I'm root for Chile now, GOOO ALEXIS!!!relax, I was merely pointing out an angle the press could use to justify criticizing Messi ...

how neymar couldn't score that chance??????

One of my favorite parts of these more obscure South American teams is how you'll see guys you haven't seen in years. Hedo Nelson Valdez?! I figured he died after leaving Bremen like 5 years ago.

EDIT: Oh he went to Dortmund for like 4 years. The fact that I didn't know that just shows how amazing Dortmund's season was. Obscurity to champions.

One of my favorite parts of these more obscure South American teams is how you'll see guys you haven't seen in years. Hedo Nelson Valdez?! I figured he died after leaving Bremen like 5 years ago.

EDIT: Oh he went to Dortmund for like 4 years. The fact that I didn't know that just shows how amazing Dortmund's season was. Obscurity to champions.

Lol he had good year for Hercules, he was a big reason why they beat us at Camp Nou

almost same story as Argentina vs Uruguay.

Superman keeper, red cards, defending with 10 players ...

Let's see what will happen in the penalties.

It must be ****ty PK taking day.

I tell you, there's a ******* mole underneath the penalty spot moving the ball :rofl:

Paraguay isn't having any trouble.

Haha, what an abortion that was by Brazil.

0 in 4...LOLZER!

Shut the **** up, Hugo Sanchez.

Whatttttttttttttttttttttt? I've never seen something like that. 4 missed penalties.

There's no doubt about a bad pitch but C'moooon.

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This has to be the ****tiest Copa America by far. Even Copa America 2001 was better than this.

LOL Argentina, Brazil first time I have seen them have the same luck. They tie the first two, win, lose on pks on a game both should have won in 90.

BTW, its all Neymar's fault!!!!!!!

If you're an attacking player and don't immediately volunteer for a penalty and leave defenders to take them you don't deserve to win. Unless you're an absolute wreck of a person like Anelka. Thiago Silva and Andre Santos should not be taking penalties instead of you Robinho and Lucas and Ramires. ****!

I hope Uruguay doesn't win this tournament. I don't feel like reading threads by Galaximan jizzing all over them.

Paraguay 0-0 Brazil
Penalties: PAR 2 - 0 BRA

YESSSSS, HELLYEAH !!!!

at least Dunga team was more effective.

Brazil should work alot if they want to win WC 2014.

Dunga was a hell of a manager, Brazil got what they deserved. Just because someone says "we will entertain and score 4 goals every game" doesn't mean they can actually do it. Dunga wasn't choosing to be pragmatic instead of entertaining just to be a dick.

Why Menezes take off Ganso, Neymar, Pato for PKs????

If Venezuela win today, all the underdogs have gone through. I should have bet on this **** tournament.

BTW, Chile will win the Cup thay have been the best teams so far. Vamos Alexis!!!

They probably all missed because they wanted to see Larissa nude.

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(Y) couldn't agree more.

Haaaaaaaa! (H)


Venezuela stunner!

game on...deserved equalizer for Chile.

Yes, Suazo, Chile Draws The Match !!!!!!

I thought it hit again the crossbar. 1-1 Great match so far.

man oh man! Venezuela does it again (H)

Venezuela in the semis would be :icon_spin:

Venezuela is gonna win. (H)

semi-finals:

Uruguay x Peru
Venezuela x Paraguay

LMAO (H)

LOL what a crazy copa??? Now who to root for...

Ohhhh, That Referee Sucks Monkey ****, **** Son of A ******* ****

Yes, Venezuela in Semi....This Copa america is Totally unexpected. I like that =]

no poll?



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Luis + Edinson + Diego ftw ...still think we should have had a poll ... still think Luis + Edinson + Diego ftw ...

they can't have a better chance than this, even if the law of the 2011 Copa says they will be eliminated next ...
"sabremos cumplir"? you better, Uruguay, you better ...

Argentina 1-1 Uruguay (Uru wins in SO): Argentina just could not dominate the game. It was 11-10 and ARgentina did not look like they had a man advantage. Shocking performance by them.

Brazil 0 - 0 Paraguay (Par wins in SO) <------ HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I did not see that one coming.....Brazil just could NOT finish their chances.

Oh, and Peru beats Colombia. Then Venezuela beats Chile. Upsets EVERYWHERE!

Uruguay vs Paraguay is the ONLY final that can save the 2011 CONMEBOL Copa America.

Uruguay vs Paraguay is the ONLY final that can save the 2011 CONMEBOL Copa America.

u re overreacting. i dont hope Venezuela or Peru get into the final match. but Copa America will not spoil if it happens.

omg, omg, omg, CHILE lost also! WTF all my bets gone wrong

Chile is out HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Those stuck up bastards thought Venezuela was gonna be a piece of cake. Well done by Venezuela!!!

I'm disagreeing that it was a bad copa. Brazil and Argentina were not that impressive, but they were unlucky as well. Also, we should give credit to quality and improvement of other teams like Venezuela and Peru.

Semi finals would be exiting, Paraguay-Uruguay would be a good final but I want Peru to win it.

I'd rather see Paraguay-Peru than Paraguay-Uruguay.

I'd rather see Paraguay-Peru than Paraguay-Uruguay.

Strongly disagree, Uruguay are world class and are proven on the world stage. Paraguay and Uruguay would be an entertaining final for sure!

Strongly disagree, Uruguay are world class and are proven on the world stage. Paraguay and Uruguay would be an entertaining final for sure!

Made it farther than they should've at the World Cup bc Suarez is a cheating scumbag.

Strongly disagree, Uruguay are world class and are proven on the world stage. Paraguay and Uruguay would be an entertaining final for sure!

You aren't going to fit in well at this forum if you join Galaxyman in the Uruguay fellatio line.

You aren't going to fit in well at this forum.

FYP

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Luis + Edinson + Diego ftw ..."sabremos cumplir"? you better, Uruguay, you better ... Luis! (H) just one more to go, para "cumplir" ...

They were the best performing South American side at the last World Cup. Your prediction isn't that brilliant. Stop patting yourself on the back.

patting Luis & Co. on the back for repaying my faith ...

as for predictions: you obviously forgot (which is fair enough), but for the WC, I had predicted all 4 semifinalists (obviously including Uruguay), and the finalists too ... got the winner wrong coz my heart couldn't not back the Dutch ...

here are mine:

A1:Uruguay (Cavani, Forlán, & especially Luis Suárez!)

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Quarters
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Holland-Brazil
Uruguay-Ghana

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Semis
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Holland-Uruguay

so, basically, me backing Uruguay is nothing new, and has everything to do with their attacking trio being favourites of mine ....

Yeah, I dug up that thread too. Those "predictions" aren't your predictions.

1) They were done after the start of the Tournament
2) You call them "ideal" and make no comment at all that they are actually predictions instead of what you just want to see

Why am I positive #2 is a justified criticism? Because of this post:

so with the draw made, it is possible to forecast plausible and ideal scenarios, all the way through to the final ...

here are mine:


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IDEAL (Reasons)
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Round of 16
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A1:Uruguay (Gargano, Cavani, Forlán, & especially Luis Suárez!) - B2:Nigeria (African)
C1:Algeria (African) - D2:Ghana (Muntari, Appiah, and they're African)

D1:Germany (Mesut Özil!) - C2:USA (Manifest Destiny)
B1:Argentina - A2:South Africa (African & Hosts)

E1:Holland - F2:Paraguay
G1:Brazil (Maicon) - H2:Switzerland

F1:Slovakia (Hamšík) - E2:Cameroon (Achille Emana, & Samuel Eto'o!)
H1:Spain (Piqué!, Iniesta, Xavi, & currently the most attractive style) - G2:Côte d'Ivoire (Yaya Touré, Abdul-Kader Keïta, & they're African)


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Quarters
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Holland-Brazil
Uruguay-Ghana

Germany-South Africa
Cameroon-Spain (Eto'o to beat Casillas for the winner)


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Semis
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Holland-Uruguay (Luis Suárez to score a consolation)
Cameroon-Germany


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Final
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Holland-Cameroon



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A LITTLE MORE RELATIVE TO STRENGTH ON PAPER
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Round of 16
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A1:France - B2:Nigeria
C1:England - D2:Ghana

D1:Germany - C2:USA
B1:Argentina - A2:Uruguay

E1:Holland - F2:Slovakia
G1:Brazil - H2:Switzerland

F1:Italy - E2:Cameroon
H1:Spain - G2:Côte d'Ivoire


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Quarters
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Holland-Brazil
France-England

Germany-Argentina
Italy-Spain


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Semis
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Brazil-France
Germany-Spain


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Final
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Brazil-Spain

Where you seem to give every indication that "ideal" is different from what you actually think is going to happen (i.e. is plausible). Nice try though; 2 Semi-Finalists is respectable for an above average fan.

Yeah, I dug up that thread too. Those "predictions" aren't your predictions.

1) They were done after the start of the Tournament
2) You call them "ideal" and make no comment at all that they are actually predictions instead of what you just want to see

Why am I positive #2 is a justified criticism? Because of this post:



Where you seem to give every indication that "ideal" is different from what you actually think is going to happen. Nice try though.ah you found a prediction post! I couldn't find that one or the other one I was looking for quickly enough, so I used the notepad text I had saved on my computer ... the one you quoted was actually done after the draw was made in 2009, comparing my ideal WC to one based on strenght on paper ...

anyway, decided to do more digging to I find the one I wanted to quote,
which is the one made after the tournament started:nicely done ... allow me to use the template ... don't agree with a few of those ... here's my ideal scenario:

Uruguay > S.Korea
Ghana > USA_________Uruguay>Ghana
Holland > Slovakia________________________Holland>Uruguay
Chile > Brazil_________Holland>Chile
Germany > England______________________________________Holla nd>Spain
Mexico > Argentina____Germany>Mexico
Japan > Paraguay________________________Spain>Germany
Spain > Portugal______Spain>Japanas always, I want the ideal, and would "predict" as such ... but that's why I don't bet cash too often ...

anyway, point stands: Uruguay's front trio are my favourites, and me backing them only has to do with them ...

You predicted Uruguay when you knew they would be playing South Korea and then USA/Ghana. Bravo Nostradamus.

hah, yeah, my "prediction" wasn't hard coz my ideal scenario for Uruguay would have matched anyone's analysis based on strength on paper ...

anyway, I "predicted" it (fact), but -- in terms of results -- it was coz WC 2010 panned out almost exactly like I ideally wanted ...

my point was that I'm backing Uruguay coz of 3 players, and clearly have done for a while ... so I was patting Luis on the back for delivering the ideal experience for me at the Copa ... simple as ...

I'm going to Uruguay for part of my PhD thesis. (H)

Yeah, I dug up that thread too. Those "predictions" aren't your predictions.

1) They were done after the start of the Tournament
2) You call them "ideal" and make no comment at all that they are actually predictions instead of what you just want to see

Why am I positive #2 is a justified criticism? Because of this post:



Where you seem to give every indication that "ideal" is different from what you actually think is going to happen (i.e. is plausible). Nice try though; 2 Semi-Finalists is respectable for an above average fan.

Why are you people taking about european teams? this is copa america isnt it?

Worst match since Milan - Juve final in 2003.

Venezuela surely did enough to have reached the final though, so unlucky in extra-time.

didn't really pay attention to my TV till the penalty shootout, but the fight was the most action-packed incident of the match ... how dare they cut the coverage just as it got interesting?! :-D

Why are you people taking about european teams? this is copa america isnt it?

Get the **** out retard

in sadly way Venezuela don't reached to the final match... because the deserved but don't get it =(.
I surely Venezuela is the second team with a best performance of the Copa America. Or Maybe the third just because they arent in the final match just that

The Paraguayan Tactics Are Very Defensive, The Just Wait Their Rivals To Tire Up And Blam

Freak Info: Paraguay Haven't Won A Match On Match Time nor Extra Time, Just By Penalties, I Think That Uruguay May Win The Final Match, Reasons, Good Forwards (Suarez, Forlan), a Solid Defense (Against Argentina They Have Some Good Highlights, Except Arevalo Rios, He Well, Make Way Too Many Fouls, Maybe, Good Backs Like Lugano)

And With a Good Keeper As Muslera.

The Paraguayan Tactics Are Very Defensive, The Just Wait Their Rivals To Tire Up And Blam

Yes i agreed with u, but the last two match against Brazil and Venezuela, Was
Totally different because they do a ugly defence, and just save by the Lucky moment and the Good GK.
So Paraguay just wait their Rivals overpower the defence and Plam Right in Post.

This has to be the ****tiest Copa America by far. Even Copa America 2001 was better than this.

I strongly disagree, this years has been very good. The Uruguayan squad is showing why they are world class.

here's my pre-final Copa review:


MVP

José Paolo Guerrero is so clutch for Peru: 3 matches, 2 goals, 1 assist, all crucial ...make that 5 matches, 5 goals, 2 assists ... he's not only Peru's player of the tournament, he's in contention for tournament MVP ... and he could win it if neither Luis Suárez nor Palito Pereira win the match for Uruguay ...


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INT'L LETDOWN
I love the intensity and carnival atmosphere of an international tournament month ... but this one has been as much of a let down as recent international tournaments (going back to EURO 2004?) ... like WC 10, the results on paper are close to ideal as far as I'm concerned; but as I've said many times, results without entertainment are useless to me ... and it seems like things are progressively getting worse ...

so many teams resort to a cheap counterattacking tactic (branded "effective play" :clapwap:), though I think the bigger problem is that the more traditionally gifted nations not producing players and/or tactics to deal with AND mock it ...

tournaments of the level of France '98 and especially EURO 2000 are an increasingly distant memory ...


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ANYONE NEW?
no real standouts amongst the younger / lesser-known players at the tournament ... for Uruguay, only Sebastián Coates is new -- he has showed consistency, which is always a good sign for a young defender ...

amongst the others only Marcelo Estigarribia caught the eye, though I think he could be a supersub at a mediocre team in a top league, at best ...

Paraguay is a shame. A cancer for entertainment.

Uruguay gonna beat Paraguay badly

I won't be surprised if Paraguay gives a lesson one more team in the penalty shoot out. Imagine them lifting up the Copa America trophy without a single win.(H)

I won't be surprised if Paraguay gives a lesson one more team in the penalty shoot out. Imagine them lifting up the Copa America trophy without a single win.(H)

And Larissa Riquelme. :bob:

EDIT: Imagine if they had have drawn all their group games 0-0 too. (H)

Uruguay gonna beat Paraguay badly

No they won't. They're gonna bunker down and go to penalties. That is why it has been such a ****ty tournament.

Say wut? (H)

here's my pre-final Copa review:


MVP

make that 5 matches, 5 goals, 2 assists ... he's not only Peru's player of the tournament, he's in contention for tournament MVP ... and he could win it if neither Luis Suárez nor Palito Pereira win the match for Uruguay ...


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ANYONE NEW?
no real standouts amongst the younger / lesser-known players at the tournament ... for Uruguay, only Sebastián Coates is new -- he has showed consistency, which is always a good sign for a young defender ... wow, I thought if Suárez scored the winner (which he did), he'd be a shoe-in for MVP after winning the semifinal for them as well ... but it looked like only the Silver Ball for him ...

good on young Sebastián Coates for winning the Young Player award ... won't be surprised if this tournament and award fast-tracks a move to Europe for him ...




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Luis + Edinson + Diego ftw ...awesome way to wrap up the tournament: Il Matador -> Luisito -> Cachavacha -> Champions! (H)

shame it had to be on a counter, but at least they had already laid siege to the Paraguay goal in the first half, and towards the latter part of the second, to merit the 3-0 scoreline ...




"sabremos cumplir"? you better, Uruguay, you better ... and they do! (Y)

What was the attendance for the final? Were there empty seats?

Bleh. Uruguay winning makes it an even worse tourney.

Spectacular victory from La Celeste, by far best team on América, now we have won 20 official titles, record for the most international titles held by a country, keep cheering up for Ghana skippy, there's a lot of space on loosers wagon ;)

...La Celeste....now we have won 20 official titles....

Copa America - 15
World Cup - 2
Olympic Gold Medals - 2

That is 19. Not 20.

Not that he isn't well known already, but Suarez is the breakout star, right?

Paraguay is a shame. A cancer for entertainment.

Paraguay had a great run. Two straight nil nil matches to reach the final. The Paraguay GK was amazing, he stopped all of Brasil's PK chances in the quarterfinals penalty shootout. Paraguay's defense against Venezuela was top notch. They went down a man and still kept Venezuela out of the net to get the match to penalties. Uruguay was too much, but Paraguay put on some entertaining matches. Even if they aren't scoring goals, they are contesting everything. That's what makes Uruguay's win today so impressive. Forlán and Suárez had a great tournament.

Spectacular victory from La Celeste, by far best team on América, now we have won 20 official titles, record for the most international titles held by a country, keep cheering up for Ghana skippy, there's a lot of space on loosers wagon ;)



Ghana? No offense, but I just don't like your national team and their nut huggers.

Ghana? No offense, but I just don't like your national team and their nut huggers.

Nah, you don't like the image that had been sold for many years by Blatter and previously by Havelange, but better get used to seeing us win titles from now on, 'cause there's a long term project that began in 2006 that generated the elite team that we have: skilled players, rough defenders, total commitment to our team, versatile players that can easily plays on 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 3-5-2 formation, tactical domain over rivals, not for nothing we're considerated for all América an example about working and consolidating an elite team.

So, since 2006, we reached every world cup competition on any level, shared achievement only with Germany, we reached the 4th position on WC (despite bad referees callings), runners-up on U17 WC, this week starts U20 WC and of course, we'll playing it, we reached the olympic games on London 2012, champions of Copa América (15th time, mayor winners), and it's on our path Confederations cup on 2013, and Brazil WC 2014, so, future is bright mate.

Ghana? No offense, but I just don't like your national team and their nut huggers.

Have to disagree with that!Asmoah Gyan, all the offense you need.

Copa America - 15
World Cup - 2
Olympic Gold Medals - 2

That is 19. Not 20.

Oh, there's the 1980 FIFA World Cup Champions Cup that Uruguay won by beating Brazil 2-1 in the final

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8XMX91ZKLU

It's officially recognized and also known as the predecessor for the Confederations cup.
19 +1 = 20

There's only one King of Cups :bob:

Nah, you don't like the image that had been sold for many years by Blatter and previously by Havelange, but better get used to seeing us win titles from now on, 'cause there's a long term project that began in 2006 that generated the elite team that we have: skilled players, rough defenders, total commitment to our team, versatile players that can easily plays on 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 3-5-2 formation, tactical domain over rivals, not for nothing we're considerated for all América an example about working and consolidating an elite team.

So, since 2006, we reached every world cup competition on any level, shared achievement only with Germany, we reached the 4th position on WC (despite bad referees callings), runners-up on U17 WC, this week starts U20 WC and of course, we'll playing it, we reached the olympic games on London 2012, champions of Copa América (15th time, mayor winners), and it's on our path Confederations cup on 2013, and Brazil WC 2014, so, future is bright mate.

Pay no attention to him mate. His incoherent ramblings against Uruguay make as much sense as belittling the histories of the Montreal Canadiens, Boston Red Sox, LA Lakers.

There has to be a point where stupidity is just interpreted as something else. It's called envy.

All in favor of Uruguay getting bashed akin to the Turk era say 'aye'.

How about just Uruguay fapping.

Nah, you don't like the image that had been sold for many years by Blatter and previously by Havelange, but better get used to seeing us win titles from now on, 'cause there's a long term project that began in 2006 that generated the elite team that we have: skilled players, rough defenders, total commitment to our team, versatile players that can easily plays on 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 3-5-2 formation, tactical domain over rivals, not for nothing we're considerated for all América an example about working and consolidating an elite team.

So, since 2006, we reached every world cup competition on any level, shared achievement only with Germany, we reached the 4th position on WC (despite bad referees callings), runners-up on U17 WC, this week starts U20 WC and of course, we'll playing it, we reached the olympic games on London 2012, champions of Copa América (15th time, mayor winners), and it's on our path Confederations cup on 2013, and Brazil WC 2014, so, future is bright mate.


That's great, and good for you but I don't really care. What bothers me is people's mantra about how 'it's 3 million people yet we are better than you' mentality, which you are showcasing. So even if your NT is really good, I still won't like your team / fans because of that arrogance. Capiche?

Nah, you don't like the image that had been sold for many years by Blatter and previously by Havelange, but better get used to seeing us win titles from now on, 'cause there's a long term project that began in 2006 that generated the elite team that we have: skilled players, rough defenders, total commitment to our team, versatile players that can easily plays on 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 3-5-2 formation, tactical domain over rivals, not for nothing we're considerated for all América an example about working and consolidating an elite team.

So, since 2006, we reached every world cup competition on any level, shared achievement only with Germany, we reached the 4th position on WC (despite bad referees callings), runners-up on U17 WC, this week starts U20 WC and of course, we'll playing it, we reached the olympic games on London 2012, champions of Copa América (15th time, mayor winners), and it's on our path Confederations cup on 2013, and Brazil WC 2014, so, future is bright mate.

I bet you ejaculated after you wrote this pile of ****. Dude get a girl. Life isn't all about soccer. Maybe you can get Suarez to beat your meat since he's good with his hands hence the game against Ghana. Uruguay will never win a World Cup again. Not in a million years. Go back and find some videos from the 30s if you can and ejaculate to those too.

I swear we should make special rules in the forum for Uruguay fans. They have under 1000 posts between them all and only show up once a year or two, I don't think it would hurt the forum at all.

BTW, congrats on your 8 post-WWII trophies (**** if I'm counting that joke in 1980). It's all the more impressive considering the Copa America is every 2 years and such parity that Uruguay, Argentina, or Brazil have failed to win it only 6 times.

Titles after World War II:

Brazil: 14
Argentina: 12
Uruguay: 8

******* kings I tell ya.

So 4 coaches in 5 years for Argentina - now Sergio Batista is out.

Replacement will be named in 1 week.

The difference between Brazil and argentina is that Brazil are building towards 2014. Argentina have a team of superstars now. They should be winning now. I think that is why there is so much pressure on them, from the media.

Anyways, I donèt think they will have problems with WC Qualifying. Uruguay will be quite old in 3 years and VenezuelaéPeru will not be very good either......they just won in a knockout tournament. In a league format(WC Qualifying) I canèt see Venezuala, Peru or Uruguay really challenging.

It should be argentina, Brazil and Paraguay. Maybe Chile.

hahahahahaha, the bitterness here is hilarious hahahahaHAHAHAHAHA!! :D :D :D

Just saw this hilarious posts on a forum, says it all:
"Does Anyone Else Hate Uruguay?
HOW DO THEY DO IT?! I'm so angry that my country (Scotland, which is about 2x bigger than Uruguay) can't even qualify past 1 group stage, and they are 5 TIME SEMI FINALISTS.

3 million people, have CONSTANTLY been one of the best football nations in the World for around 100 years. That's incredible! Last night they officially became the nation with the most major international titles in Football History.

Incredible stuff lads. Hats off.
Peru's coach the other day said, "If Uruguay had a population of 90, 000, 000, they'd be one of the top 4 nations of all time. But considering population, they are hands down the best football nation of all time"
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Wow. I'm done with this forum :D , going to one of the real ones (Big soccer, sfn ;) )

As they say in Wales, the churches are open all day lads....cry cry to your heart's content :D

We have vanquished the enemy!

That totally sounds like a real post, by the way.

hahahahahaha, the bitterness here is hilarious hahahahaHAHAHAHAHA!! :D :D :D

Just saw this hilarious posts on a forum, says it all:
"Does Anyone Else Hate Uruguay?
HOW DO THEY DO IT?! I'm so angry that my country (Scotland, which is about 2x bigger than Uruguay) can't even qualify past 1 group stage, and they are 5 TIME SEMI FINALISTS.

3 million people, have CONSTANTLY been one of the best football nations in the World for around 100 years. That's incredible! Last night they officially became the nation with the most major international titles in Football History.

Incredible stuff lads. Hats off.
Peru's coach the other day said, "If Uruguay had a population of 90, 000, 000, they'd be one of the top 4 nations of all time. But considering population, they are hands down the best football nation of all time"
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Wow. I'm done with this forum :D , going to one of the real ones (Big soccer, sfn ;) )

As they say in Wales, the churches are open all day lads....cry cry to your heart's content :D


Oh noez. The historian Galaximan won't metaphorically jerk off to Uruguay in SG anymore. Total loss.

Oh noez. The historian Galaximan won't metaphorically jerk off to Uruguay in SG anymore. Total loss.

hahah agreed! later galaximan.

hahahahahaha, the bitterness here is hilarious hahahahaHAHAHAHAHA!! :D :D :D

Just saw this hilarious posts on a forum, says it all:
"Does Anyone Else Hate Uruguay?
HOW DO THEY DO IT?! I'm so angry that my country (Scotland, which is about 2x bigger than Uruguay) can't even qualify past 1 group stage, and they are 5 TIME SEMI FINALISTS.

3 million people, have CONSTANTLY been one of the best football nations in the World for around 100 years. That's incredible! Last night they officially became the nation with the most major international titles in Football History.

Incredible stuff lads. Hats off.
Peru's coach the other day said, "If Uruguay had a population of 90, 000, 000, they'd be one of the top 4 nations of all time. But considering population, they are hands down the best football nation of all time"
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Wow. I'm done with this forum :D , going to one of the real ones (Big soccer, sfn ;) )

As they say in Wales, the churches are open all day lads....cry cry to your heart's content :D

Bitterness? We all hate YOU for being such a delusional cock and saying Uruguay is great when they haven't won anything that 95% of the members of this forum (Europe and North America) give two ****s about since 1950, before my dad was even born. You have a great history, congrats. You do not have a great present, or even a great recent past; you have been above average and you're bragging like Uruguay wins more than Brazil. You know who could talk a lot of **** about meaningless "FIFA Recognized Titles"? Mexico. They don't because they aren't delusional cocks. Just cocks ;)

Anyways, I donèt think they will have problems with WC Qualifying. Uruguay will be quite old in 3 years and VenezuelaéPeru will not be very good either......they just won in a knockout tournament. In a league format(WC Qualifying) I canèt see Venezuala, Peru or Uruguay really challenging.

It should be argentina, Brazil and Paraguay. Maybe Chile.

Brazil qualifies automatically as hosts. :blush:

Hmmm, yeah, I forgot about that.

I also forgot about Colombia, who I thought were a massive disappointment in the knockout stages.

With Brazil out, though, that does open up a whole new can of worms. Atleast one really weak team will qualify from South America - an optical illusion. They'll get crushed at the World Cup. It's to be seen which team that is.

I don't think you can call any team weak in S. America following this Copa.

Uruguay is so great that they've had to qualify to the last two World Cups they've been to by playing two extra games after everybody else is qualified......

I don't think you can call any team weak in S. America following this Copa.

Teams like Peru and Venezuela aren't going to be very good in a league format competition, which is what WC Qualifying is. Even Chile and Uruguay will struggle. All those teams were good in a cup format competition. Rarely does that translate into much in an extended competition.

CONMEBOL is not as strong as you think it is.:clapwap::clapwap::clapwap:

It's not, but occasionally you'll get a club that gets really good out of nowhere. Like Colombia in the early 90s, or Uruguay in the early 2010s. Personally I always cheer for Ecuador after liking them at WC 2006.

Teams like Peru and Venezuela aren't going to be very good in a league format competition, which is what WC Qualifying is. Even Chile and Uruguay will struggle. All those teams were good in a cup format competition. Rarely does that translate into much in an extended competition.

CONMEBOL is not as strong as you think it is.:clapwap::clapwap::clapwap:

There's a difference between strong teams overall and the overall competitiveness of teams in a confederation, which is what i meant to emphasise in my original point.

CONMEBOL is the most evenly matched confederation (although granted that it has the least members). You would hardly ever have a Lesser Antilles team or some team like Nicaragua or Belize beating either U.S. or Mexico.

Well, Panama made the USA look like **** in the Gold Cup, but sure.

if Mexico's team from Gold Cup would have gone, surely they would have made it all the way to the final.

Don't flatter yourself.