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shoneroma90 13-07-2011, 09:37:PM A.S. Roma
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/Asroma89/464px-As_roma.gif
Full club name: Associazione Sportiva Roma
Founded: 22 July 1927
Nicknames: Giallorossi (The Yellow-Reds)
La Maggica (The Magic One)
Lupi (The Wolves)
Home ground: Stadio Olimpico (capacity 72,698)
President: Thomas Di Benedetto
Coach: Luis Enrique
2011-2012 kits:
http://www.passionemaglie.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/divise-roma-2011-2012.jpg
Tosiek 14-07-2011, 06:17:PM You didn't put much effort into the opening post.
shoneroma90 14-07-2011, 08:49:PM i will update it when transfer window finishes...
Luis Enrique was one my favorite players. I hope he does well in Italy.
Did he announce his system and transfer targets?
shoneroma90 17-07-2011, 12:27:AM he said roma will play attacking football... and we already buyed Krkic, Lamela, Kameni... maybe Stekelenburg will come also...
Coruja 17-07-2011, 01:16:AM Nice transfers so far.
shoneroma90 17-07-2011, 03:01:AM Heinze is now roma player... and if we can't bring Stekelenburg, Frey is the second option...
Arnau 17-07-2011, 03:02:AM WTF! Why Heinze?!
Xifio 17-07-2011, 03:20:AM WTF! Why Heinze?!coz he speaks castilian? seriously though, that's terrible buy from Roma ...
but it's ok, coz Simon Kjær is high on the priority list for Roma, which is awesome! (Y)
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/69/xifiosimongat.jpg
if we can't bring Stekelenburg, Frey is the second option...the Dalai Séba is the best!
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6697/xifiozlatanseba.jpg
coxlenox 17-07-2011, 01:53:PM in web site does not have any official notice about new players
Arnau 17-07-2011, 02:28:PM Bojan won't be official 'till we sign Alexis.
shoneroma90 17-07-2011, 02:45:PM Bojan won't be official 'till we sign Alexis.
exactly... when Sanchez go to Barca, Bojan will come to Rome...
coxlenox 17-07-2011, 03:34:PM so lets wait for news...jejeje
exactly... when Sanchez go to Barca, Bojan will come to Rome...
I hope they don't do a mistake and let him go on loan. Then after few years they should chase him for 5 years like Cesc.
Arnau 17-07-2011, 09:00:PM Buy black clausule next 2 years. Every young talented player leaving us will have a buy back clausule, even Jeffrén.
Arnau 19-07-2011, 12:31:AM Luis Enrique was one my favorite players. I hope he does well in Italy.
Did he announce his system and transfer targets?
Luis Enrique will try to put in place at Roma a different style than Pep. The B team coached by Lucho was a little more prone to direct football and not so much focused on possession. Will be great to watch it unfold at the Serie A. Roma may be winning a lot of matches with a lot of goals, but also loose a lot of matches by a big difference, though. Man is a winner and spread his players with his ambition.
That match is a good example, 4-6 lol
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He worked with Pep and Mourinho a lot of years and learn things from both, Luis is actually a bit of Mourinho fan, is always saying good things about him as you can see (but not understand :D) in this vid
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P.S: Lucho González linked with Roma.
shoneroma90 21-07-2011, 12:55:AM http://www.forzaroma.info/news-as-roma/48504-roma-la-rosa-dei-sogni-realistici.html
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Tosiek 24-07-2011, 01:18:PM I hope he'll be for us a goalmachine this season.(Y)
shoneroma90 24-07-2011, 01:20:PM i hope totti will be... hehe
I don't know how well he can cope with Serie A physicality and defenders, especially base on his strength.
Arnau 03-08-2011, 04:54:PM Bojan? he's strong. Should take number 9 now Vucinic is gone.
Arnau 04-08-2011, 08:30:PM Good debut by Bojan, when he play with confidence is a great player.
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Coruja 04-08-2011, 09:06:PM Going to look forward Roma this season, i really appreciate Luis Enrique and the way he's building the squad. Hope Lucho joins them.
paolo-fcb 04-08-2011, 09:57:PM Going to look forward Roma this season, i really appreciate Luis Enrique and the way he's building the squad. Hope Lucho joins them.
sincerely I only hope to stay in serie A.........:sleep:
Roma should look nice this season, good luck!
Tosiek 05-08-2011, 10:34:AM sincerely I only hope to stay in serie A.........:sleep:
We are not THAT bad. We only need wise coach and devoted players ready to die for the club. I think we have both.
paolo-fcb 05-08-2011, 11:58:AM We are not THAT bad. We only need wise coach and devoted players ready to die for the club. I think we have both.
NOW we have players????? Tell me a starting line and some reserves that could let us stay in serie A my friend......Crescenzi?Antei?Viviani?Rosi?Cassetti? :-(
Tosiek 05-08-2011, 12:27:PM Those players who came surely will be the first- eleven- players. I'm not worried about the defence and strikers for somehow. We only lack creativity in the midfield. And of course our bench players are... not that strong as the opponent's players. But I hope Luis Enrique will come up with something. He's the freshman and has tons of ideas. We may not fight for the scudetto this season but I believe first 4 is reachable.
Coruja 05-08-2011, 12:49:PM Those players who came surely will be the first- eleven- players. I'm not worried about the defence and strikers for somehow. We only lack creativity in the midfield. And of course our bench players are... not that strong as the opponent's players. But I hope Luis Enrique will come up with something. He's the freshman and has tons of ideas. We may not fight for the scudetto this season but I believe first 4 is reachable.
This ^
Roma is building the team at their own pace, its hard to ask them to win the league or other competition this season but they're working to do that in the future i think. So far im glad with all the transfers they're been doing (Vucinic was kinda bad). And if things like Lucho gets real even better.
Now saying that you only want them to be in Serie A, dude...
paolo-fcb 05-08-2011, 03:09:PM til now we have only sent players away, vucinic the last one, sure guys kind bojan or jose' angel could not make the difference, i heard few and bad rumours about us, we have not enough money to get new and good players, this is the reason why i'm very very scared for the future of as Roma.....
Tosiek 05-08-2011, 03:12:PM Heinze, Stekelenburg & Krkic aren't good players in your opinion?
paolo-fcb 05-08-2011, 04:08:PM Heinze, Stekelenburg & Krkic aren't good players in your opinion?
yes of course but then?
Tosiek 05-08-2011, 04:15:PM I don't get your point, mate.
Arnau 05-08-2011, 05:12:PM Roma will win and will make it with style, just let Luis Enrique work.
paolo-fcb 05-08-2011, 06:57:PM ok, here the actual roster of as Roma:
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/as-rom/startseite/verein_12.html
Xifio 05-08-2011, 07:09:PM hah, Paolo è sempre pessimista (H) ...
if Roma get Kjær and someone like De Bruyne, then it'll be a stronger squad than last season ...
but they've already done a good job with replacements/upgrades ... hopefully Erik Lamela's ankle problems don't ruin his season ...
MaSsiVe 05-08-2011, 11:01:PM Paolo if you think this team is so bad, you should support only Celtic and Bayern this season :rolleyes:
incredible how it took a non-Roma fan to mention Lamela...I don't know if people realize it, but the kid is an amazing talent and should help you guys a LOT on that "lack of creativity in the midfield" department.
Coruja 06-08-2011, 12:03:AM hah, Paolo è sempre pessimista (H) ...
if Roma get Kjær and someone like De Bruyne, then it'll be a stronger squad than last season ...
but they've already done a good job with replacements/upgrades ... hopefully Erik Lamela's ankle problems don't ruin his season ...
For moments i tought you were portuguese.
I think Roma is doin fine in transfer market + Italian teams normally do better in August.
I think few more players will sign.
shoneroma90 06-08-2011, 03:15:AM i'm satisfied with transfers so far, we are stronger than last season, and i like Enrique's work so far, mixing young talents and experienced players...
p.s.
http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/05082011/45/calciomercato-nilmar-roma-trovato-l-accordo.html
poet11 06-08-2011, 04:04:AM Roma did a superb job in buying Stekelenburg. I think the other transfers are good but a cb and a midfield playmaker is needed to challenge for the scudetto.
Anyone knows what formation will they play?
Arnau 06-08-2011, 04:19:AM Pizarro is a good playmaker. He could shine in Luis Enrique's assosiative football proposal.
paolo-fcb 06-08-2011, 04:53:AM ok guys we're stronger than Barça, ok?(Y)
paolo-fcb 06-08-2011, 06:31:AM ok, lets try to be serious, now this could be a starting line of Roma:
STEKELENBURG
CASSETTI(CICINHO)-BURDISSO-JUAN-J.ANGEL
PERROTTA(TADDEI)-PIZARRO-DE ROSSI
BOJAN-TOTTI-LAMELA(BORRIELLO)
as can u see it could be a good 11 but:
if the keeper gets an injury we have Curci or Lobont that means to have nobody behind the net. Cicinho could leave the team so if Cassetti get injured who plays? Heinze could replace Juan that is always injured, but here maybe we get another CB kind Kjaer; LB we have only one. Sure De Rossi will stay in the team? Is Lamela so good (and seems he's injured)? Borriello too could leave the team and the captain is 35 old, so are u sure this is a great squad?
Luis Enrique......I trust in him but he's not Harry Potter.....
poet11 06-08-2011, 06:40:AM Pizarro is a good playmaker. He could shine in Luis Enrique's assosiative football proposal.
Oh yeah Pizarro is good but I still feel another quality midfielder could do them good. Gago behind De Rossi and Pizarro as a deep lying playmaker or Lucho Gonzalez with Pizarro with De Rossi behind them would be good. If theres even a small chance Roma should try to get Marchisio instead of Lucho and get Gago.
Coruja 06-08-2011, 04:44:PM ok, lets try to be serious, now this could be a starting line of Roma:
STEKELENBURG
CASSETTI(CICINHO)-BURDISSO-JUAN-J.ANGEL
PERROTTA(TADDEI)-PIZARRO-DE ROSSI
BOJAN-TOTTI-LAMELA(BORRIELLO)
as can u see it could be a good 11 but:
if the keeper gets an injury we have Curci or Lobont that means to have nobody behind the net. Cicinho could leave the team so if Cassetti get injured who plays? Heinze could replace Juan that is always injured, but here maybe we get another CB kind Kjaer; LB we have only one. Sure De Rossi will stay in the team? Is Lamela so good (and seems he's injured)? Borriello too could leave the team and the captain is 35 old, so are u sure this is a great squad?
Luis Enrique......I trust in him but he's not Harry Potter.....
Are you serious?
paolo-fcb 06-08-2011, 05:13:PM Are you serious?
yes, why? its obvious u dont watch italian football and maybe u never watched a match of Roma if u consider curci and lobont as football players-
Coruja 06-08-2011, 05:36:PM yes, why? its obvious u dont watch italian football and maybe u never watched a match of Roma if u consider curci and lobont as football players-
http://images.memegenerator.net/images/408x/1121819.jpg
What am i reading?
yoyo913 06-08-2011, 07:06:PM Lobont was epic in Euro08. They are good back-ups, they have experience most other back-ups don't have.
Coruja 06-08-2011, 07:47:PM Lobont was epic in Euro08. They are good back-ups, they have experience most other back-ups don't have.
This ^
paolo-fcb 06-08-2011, 09:00:PM ok u got reason, its u who supports Roma since 42 years-now stop it!
http://www.asromaultras.org/Simboloultraroma.jpg
Coruja 06-08-2011, 09:47:PM ok u got reason, its u who supports Roma since 42 years-now stop it!
http://www.asromaultras.org/Simboloultraroma.jpg
That doesnt make sense at all... Curci and Lobont played 42 years ago?
I support Benfica but that doesnt make every statement that i write about my team correct.
paolo-fcb 06-08-2011, 10:05:PM Please stop, u love Benfica? So I love my Roma, forza magica Roma!!!!!!
http://www.asromaultras.org/tesseracucsanni80.jpg
Coruja 06-08-2011, 10:09:PM We arent talking about the history of Roma as a football team, we're talking about players, i dont need to be a Roma supporter for 42 years to say what i think about Curci and Lobont.
Arnau 07-08-2011, 08:15:AM GK backup must always sucks, remember worse season ever for Casillas at Bernabeu. 06-07 one with Capello, Diego Lopez was on the bench.
Coruja 07-08-2011, 01:43:PM The problem here is that Curci and Lobont are nice backups,but for Paolo they arent even football players. But ok, i'll stop.
Really excited to see L. Enrique and his team.
Arnau 07-08-2011, 02:27:PM Nilmar could be the next signing. Looks like Roma agree fee with the player.
What do you guys think about Erik Lamela?
paolo-fcb 08-08-2011, 10:20:AM Nilmar could be the next signing. Looks like Roma agree fee with the player.
we offered 14 but villareal wants 20.......we'll see:rolleyes:
Arnau 13-08-2011, 12:21:AM Very poor match against Valencia, lots of work to do and a lot of crap to clean, Simplicio looks fat. This team need, at least, a good CB and a striker.
Coruja 13-08-2011, 01:34:AM Very poor match against Valencia, lots of work to do and a lot of crap to clean, Simplicio looks fat. This team need, at least, a good CB and a striker.
Kjaer would be great.
Arnau 13-08-2011, 01:55:AM Haven't seen much of Kjær but seems slow and not good in possesion game. I'd like to see Vertonghen there although won't happen.
paolo-fcb 13-08-2011, 03:16:AM Haven't seen much of Kjær but seems slow and not good in possesion game. I'd like to see Vertonghen there although won't happen.
Vertonghen is great but costs around 15 millions, too expensive for Roma, Kjaer costs the half, u got reason we sucked the match in Mestalla and we need improvements, we're looking for Nilmar, or Osvaldo, but Villareal and Espanyol wishes almost 20 millions for them, and Fabio Simplicio ok seems fat but his physical is made so......:clapwap:
Coruja 14-08-2011, 02:04:AM Well guys Lamela will arrive earlier. ahaha
shoneroma90 20-08-2011, 11:24:PM Lamela finaly in Rome...
paolo-fcb 21-08-2011, 07:28:AM Lamela finaly in Rome...
injured............:clapwap:
paolo-fcb 25-08-2011, 08:21:AM SERIE A IS ON STRIKE, like in Spain, we are lucky with it, we're not prepared to play.......but we play tonight after the defeat in Bratislava, I'd wish this starting line (sure Luis Enrique will mess up anything lol):
STEKELENBURG
CASSETTI(CICINHO)-BURDISSO-HEINZE-JOSE' ANGEL
TADDEI-VIVIANI-PERROTTA(BRIGHI)
BOJAN-TOTTI-LAMELA(dont know if he's fit otherwise Borriello)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g5HhNfdPxiM/Sfbw7QAFWgI/AAAAAAAADnE/0eI0gJdfsTQ/s400/ultr%C3%A0+roma.jpg
Tosiek 26-08-2011, 10:41:AM http://www.asroma.pl/mnews/img/news/roma%20slovan%201-0.jpg
Good start for Enrique. WE WANT MORE!!!
paolo-fcb 26-08-2011, 11:02:AM We have not play that bad but missed too many chances with Bojan, Totti has been good, so Angel very nice, the youngs Viviani and Caprari ok, shame, anyway Roma wasnt builded in one day.......Forza Magica Roma!!!!!!!!
(Y)
Arnau 26-08-2011, 11:08:AM Yeah you create a lot of chances and like in the first leg, Slovan scored in the first one they had, very unfair. Sabatini said it's his fault to not complet the squad yet and reports he will sign 2 midfielders.
poet11 26-08-2011, 11:16:AM I get a feeling Enrique won't last the season.
Arnau 26-08-2011, 11:20:AM That would be a drama....
....for Roma.
paolo-fcb 26-08-2011, 11:29:AM After Osvaldo today Kjaer, yes Arnau seems we'll sign almost a midfielder maybe 2, I'd prefere Nilmar but I know we cant sign him.....
Arnau 26-08-2011, 11:42:AM --------De Rossi--------
--Pizarro--------???------
---------Lamela----------
--Osvaldo---------Bojan--
******* Totti sucks.
Tosiek 26-08-2011, 01:11:PM ******* Luis Enrique sucks.
Now it's correct.
paolo-fcb 26-08-2011, 02:08:PM Nobody sucks, Totti or the coach, we have to improve our philosophy and please PEACE AND LOVE, repeat Roma wasnt biulded in one day.......:rolleyes:
Arnau 26-08-2011, 02:10:PM Totti is a bad team mate and captain, Luis Enrique has a problem there.
Tosiek 26-08-2011, 02:12:PM Nobody sucks, Totti or the coach, we have to improve our philosophy and please PEACE AND LOVE, repeat Roma wasnt biulded in one day.......:rolleyes:
Tell that Scottish fans, especially those from Glasgow.
Totti is a bad team mate and captain, Luis Enrique has a problem there.
How do you know that?:sleep:
Arnau 26-08-2011, 02:15:PM Just look at his behaviour when get substituted... he is il Re di Roma.
Tosiek 26-08-2011, 02:20:PM Just look at his behaviour when get substituted... he is il Re di Roma.
So you want to tell that Totti is the only one who behaves like that when he is substituted? He's a living legend and simply can't get used to being substituted.
Arnau 26-08-2011, 02:24:PM Puyol is also a living legend and when notice that he wouldn't play the CL final he said to a surprised Abidal: I don't matter now, you are the starter. That's a good captain.
Tosiek 26-08-2011, 02:33:PM I know that FC Barcelona do not accept cheaters, divers and frustrated players. Everything which is not Barca- related is bad/wrong. We all know that and we must deal with it somehow. I'm sorry that rest of the world is cruel and your tiny Barca- devoted heart will break in half because of that.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2451/busquetst.gif
paolo-fcb 26-08-2011, 04:14:PM Quiet guys.......
For the starting line of Roma I'd wish something like this:
STEKELENBURG
CICINHO(CASSETTI)-BURDISSO-KJAER(JUAN, HEINZE)-JOSE' ANGEL
PERROTTA(TADDEI)-DE ROSSI-PIZARRO(BRIGHI, NEW MIDFIELDER)
BOJAN-TOTTI-LAMELA(OSVALDO)
Its not so bad.......:rolleyes:
I think it was the best transfer window for Roma after 2000 season.
Enrique has all tools to make a good team and at least qualify for champions league.
He always had attitude during his career as well, it may be hard for him to coexist with Totti. But he needs that icon at least for a season till he builds a team and himself.
Roma did a big gamble on him, I hope it pays off because I like that fellow.
paolo-fcb 27-08-2011, 01:06:AM I think it was the best transfer window for Roma after 2000 season.
Enrique has all tools to make a good team and at least qualify for champions league.
He always had attitude during his career as well, it may be hard for him to coexist with Totti. But he needs that icon at least for a season till he builds a team and himself.
Roma did a big gamble on him, I hope it pays off because I like that fellow.
naaaaaa, the best transfer window has been 11 years ago, then we won the scudetto in 2001, emerson+samuel+nakata+montella+batistuta(Y)
consider we're looking up for other 2/3 players.......:-)
http://cdn.calciopro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/totti4zo9.jpg
paolo-fcb 27-08-2011, 01:10:AM LETS SING OUR HYMNE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roma Roma Roma,
core de stà città,
unico grande amore,
de tanta e tanta gente,
che fai sospirà.
Roma Roma Roma,
lassace cantà,
da stà voce nasce un core,
so centomila voci che hai fatto nammorà.
Roma Roma bella,
t'ho dipinta io,
gialla come er sole,
rossa come er core mio.
Roma Roma mia,
nun te fa cantà,
tu sei nata grande
e grande hai da restà.
Roma Roma Roma,
core de stà città,
unico grande amore,
de tanta e tanta gente,
ch'hai fatto nammorà.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/f/f5/Romaasstemma.png
naaaaaa, the best transfer window has been 11 years ago, then we won the scudetto in 2001, emerson+samuel+nakata+montella+batistuta(Y)
consider we're looking up for other 2/3 players.......:-)
http://cdn.calciopro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/totti4zo9.jpg
I was refering to that season ;)
paolo-fcb 27-08-2011, 02:01:AM ah ok(Y)
poet11 27-08-2011, 07:39:AM Good transfers by Roma :D. What formation is Luis Enrique playing? 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-3?
4-3-1-2 the best me thinks......
GK- Stekelenberg, Curci, Lobont
RB- Cassetti, Cicinho, Rossi
RCB- Kjaer, Burdisso bros
LCB- Juan, Heinze
LB- Jose Angel, Heinze
CM- De Rossi, Pizarro, Perotta, Simplicio, Brighi
AM/Trequartista- Totti, Lamela
Strikers- Osvaldo, Borirello, Bojan, Totti
1 or 2 midfielders is needed
paolo-fcb 27-08-2011, 08:16:AM Good transfers by Roma :D. What formation is Luis Enrique playing? 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-3?
4-3-1-2 the best me thinks......
GK- Stekelenberg, Curci, Lobont
RB- Cassetti, Cicinho, Rossi
RCB- Kjaer, Burdisso bros
LCB- Juan, Heinze
LB- Jose Angel, Heinze
CM- De Rossi, Pizarro, Perotta, Simplicio, Brighi
AM/Trequartista- Totti, Lamela
Strikers- Osvaldo, Borirello, Bojan, Totti
1 or 2 midfielders is needed
only one Burdisso, the younger has been sent away......u forgot Taddei, Borriello is going away, think 4-3-3 if Lamela is able to play attacker, 4-3-1-2 if not:-)
poet11 27-08-2011, 08:23:AM Didn't know that..... Haven't seen Lamela play other than youtube scouting but heard he was a forward first then an attacking midfielder or winger(AZ spare me...just using common terms).
paolo-fcb 27-08-2011, 09:00:AM http://www.lamiaroma.it/cartellasalvaguai/smcucs_nnmoll.jpg
Arnau 27-08-2011, 11:52:AM With Osvaldo i think you'll play a 4-3-3 like Lucho did with Soriano. Lamela in the right cut inside.
Xifio 01-09-2011, 05:26:PM brilliant job in the summer market by the new management! (Y) maybe lacking a new RWB, but addressed every other area that needed it ... I'm very impressed, and very happy for Roma ...
paolo-fcb 03-09-2011, 03:20:PM Very intelligent sig Xifio.........:blush:
anyway now Luis Enrique got many players and must find the way to make Roma as good as possible, my starting line:
STEKELENBURG
CICINHO(CASSETTI)-BURDISSO-KJAER(JUAN, HEINZE)-ANGEL
DE ROSSI-GAGO(PIZARRO)-PJANIC(PERROTTA, TADDEI)
LAMELA(OSVALDO)-TOTTI-BOJAN
How much Roma spent in total for all those new players?
paolo-fcb 04-09-2011, 02:01:PM How much Roma spent in total for all those new players?
Bojan 10 millions €
Lamela 11
Angel 3
Stekelenburg 7,5
Kjaer 3 +7 if in 2012 he'll be a Römer
Gago 0,5 +7 if in 2012 he'll be a Römer
Pjanic 11
Borini is loan
Heinze free tansfer
Osvaldo 17
coxlenox 05-09-2011, 01:57:PM Very intelligent sig Xifio.........:blush:
anyway now Luis Enrique got many players and must find the way to make Roma as good as possible, my starting line:
STEKELENBURG
CICINHO(CASSETTI)-BURDISSO-KJAER(JUAN, HEINZE)-ANGEL
DE ROSSI-GAGO(PIZARRO)-PJANIC(PERROTTA, TADDEI)
LAMELA(OSVALDO)-TOTTI-BOJAN
seems to be a good team
paolo-fcb 06-09-2011, 06:26:PM we hope.........(Y)
coxlenox 06-09-2011, 06:29:PM which the shirt number Borini, Pjanić and Kjær will use?
paolo-fcb 06-09-2011, 08:10:PM which the shirt number Borini, Pjanić and Kjær will use?
dont know, maybe still not assigned, strange..........:blush:
paolo-fcb 07-09-2011, 06:46:PM So finally Serie A day 1, sunday, Roma-Cagliari, the son of Bruno Conti surely will score a great goal so we have to score almost 2, I'd play this way but Luis Enrique seems crazy sometimes and will change my formation:
STEKELENBURG
CICINHO(CASSETTI)-BURDISSO-KJAER-ANGEL
DE ROSSI-GAGO-PJANIC(PERROTTA)
BOJAN-TOTTI-OSVALDO
paolo-fcb 07-09-2011, 06:48:PM http://www.imperogiallorosso.it/risultati/stagione-2008-2009/serie-a/calendario/giornata_16/roma-cagliari/ap_14613611_23030.jpg/
Arnau 07-09-2011, 06:55:PM I'd play this way but Luis Enrique seems crazy sometimes and will change my formation
(H)
paolo-fcb 07-09-2011, 08:22:PM (H)
til now L.Enrique seems the new van Gaal, trust me(H)
Arnau 08-09-2011, 04:25:AM van gaal is a great coach, he surely learn things from him, the good and the bad.
paolo-fcb 08-09-2011, 04:30:AM van gaal is a great coach, he surely learn things from him, the good and the bad.
A coach who destroyed a team like Bayern cannot be a great coach, anyway I meaned the behaviour of L.Enrique is til today similar to van Gaal's one, kind Hitler or Francisco Franco.........:rolleyes:
Azrael 08-09-2011, 02:41:PM Wasn't Van Gaal the guy who sat on the Bayern bench that time they nearly did the treble 2 years ago? And aren't Bayern in the CL this year, and looking like they could win this year? So... not that broken.
And yeah, van Gaal, Luis Enrique, Franco, Hitler... good comparison.
Arnau 08-09-2011, 03:16:PM Also if it weren't for him maybe Müller wouldn't be the player he is today, Van Gaal has empathy problems with the players but is VERY good in developing talents.
poet11 08-09-2011, 03:26:PM I agree with Arnau. Reinventing Schweinsteiger as a holding midfielder was genius. He did a lot for Bayern than people give him credit for.
paolo-fcb 08-09-2011, 04:45:PM van Gaal had only luck his 1st year with Bayern, he had Robben 100% fit and guys kind Lahm, Schweini, Olic in top-form, so Robben and the other guys touched the treble except the Madrid's final, we've the reality in the 2nd year, van Gaal thinks only to attack and dont care about defence, his 1st declaration als Bayern's coach was: "I dont need Lucio", so Lucio went to Inter and our defence failed, who's Lucio? Only the captain of Brazil and the best defender all over the world..........:clapwap:
Stop **** Gaal and FORZA ROMA!
paolo-fcb 09-09-2011, 09:46:AM So it seems Luis Enrique made a choice in midfield and attack, on defence still dont know:
DE ROSSI-GAGO-PJANIC
BOJAN-TOTTI-OSVALDO
paolo-fcb 09-09-2011, 09:48:AM Also if it weren't for him maybe Müller wouldn't be the player he is today, Van Gaal has empathy problems with the players but is VERY good in developing talents.
ok van Gaal discovered Müller? Be sure that Ottmar Hitzfeld would have do that before......sorry the ot and FORZA MAGICA ROMA!
paolo-fcb 10-09-2011, 06:04:AM L.Enrique seems to decide the starting line for Roma-Cagliari, we miss Cicinho...
STEKELENBURG
CASSETTI-BURDISSO-KJAER-ANGEL
DE ROSSI-GAGO-PJANIC
BOJAN-TOTTI-OSVALDO
If Enrique put Rosi on the pitch I'll be killing him lol:biggrinx:
Arnau 10-09-2011, 06:00:PM When is the match, Paolo?
paolo-fcb 10-09-2011, 06:12:PM When is the match, Paolo?
Tomorrow at 3,00 pm CET
am excited to see Enrique team :).
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 07:22:AM am excited to see Enrique team :).
The trouble is the son of Bruno Conti, he always score against us so we have to score almost 2 goals to win the match lol(Y)(Y)(Y)
We need this man:
http://www.calciomercatoweb.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/totti.jpg
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 03:03:PM HT 0-0, ok its very hot in Roma but sincerely I've seen nothing new til now, always the same, we are down and its very easy to stop us for Cagliari, ****:blush:
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 04:03:PM we sucked, stop-
Arnau 11-09-2011, 04:07:PM calm down, its a matter of time to get some good results. Roma dominate cagliari and deserve to win, even with ten men. You have a lot of new players and new coach, it may take a time to adapt.
Tosiek 11-09-2011, 04:10:PM There's no such thing as "deserved to win". You win when you score more goals than opponent. Football is just that simple.
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 05:26:PM calm down, its a matter of time to get some good results. Roma dominate cagliari and deserve to win, even with ten men. You have a lot of new players and new coach, it may take a time to adapt.
In which match Roma dominated Cagliari and deserve to win? 10 years ago??????:blush:
poet11 11-09-2011, 05:40:PM @Paolo-Conti scored(H)
My feeling of Enrique not lasting the season gets stronger.......
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 05:43:PM @Paolo-Conti scored(H)
My feeling of Enrique not lasting the season gets stronger.......
The son of Conti ever score against us, I hate him.........:browsmiley:
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 07:09:PM Try to give "pagelle" to Roma players too, only this time, I discovered next game will be with Inter lol.....:
STEKELENBURG 6
ROSI 6,5
BURDISSO 6
HEINZE 6
ANGEL 6(4 FOR THE RED CARD)
PERROTTA 4
DE ROSSI 5
PJANIC 6+
TOTTI 5
BOJAN 3
OSVALDO 4
BORRIELLO 5
GAGO -
Xifio 11-09-2011, 07:49:PM Cagliari, as expected, were completely outshot and outpossessed, before and after the red ... the only reason it wasn't 2 or 3-0 by the hour mark was coz Agazzi made some ridiculous saves to keep the shots on target out ...
basically, I agree with Arnau: have patience ...
there were NINE Serie A debuts out there for Roma today ... 9! from the coach, to the keeper, to the foward line, and everywhere in between ... once this new system is bedded in, and the new coach and players are too, the rewards will come ...
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 07:54:PM Cagliari, as expected, were completely outshot and outpossessed, before and after the red ... the only reason it wasn't 2 or 3-0 by the hour mark was coz Agazzi made some ridiculous saves to keep the shots on target out ...
basically, I agree with Arnau: have patience ...
there were NINE Serie A debuts out there for Roma today ... 9! from the coach, to the keeper, to the foward line, and everywhere in between ... once this new system is bedded in, and the new coach and players are too, the rewards will come ...
I've patience Xifio, as u can see I didnt type anything about L.Enrique but only rated the single players in a single match, of course as Thomas Di Benedetto sayd: "Roma wasnt build in one day"......
paolo-fcb 11-09-2011, 08:04:PM haha exactly (H)
yep
Arnau 13-09-2011, 02:19:AM Watching Roma last weekend i figure where Lamela would play. He fits perfectly on Totti's position but i don't like Bojan in right wing and Osvaldo wide, Nilmar was better for this role; Osvaldo is the perfect striker to play a 4-2-3-1 but has problems to share the attack or play wide.
Lamela on the right, Osvaldo center and Bojan in left side it's the best option right now IMO, then when everyones is adapted Lucho could try Lamela false 9 or 10 (Totti) and Bojan + Osvaldo wide.
EDIT: I disagree with those who thinks Bojan is just a poacher.
paolo-fcb 13-09-2011, 06:48:AM Watching Roma last weekend i figure where Lamela would play. He fits perfectly on Totti's position but i don't like Bojan in right wing and Osvaldo wide, Nilmar was better for this role; Osvaldo is the perfect striker to play a 4-2-3-1 but has problems to share the attack or play wide.
Lamela on the right, Osvaldo center and Bojan in left side it's the best option right now IMO, then when everyones is adapted Lucho could try Lamela false 9 or 10 (Totti) and Bojan + Osvaldo wide.
EDIT: I disagree with those who thinks Bojan is just a poacher.
....somebody told me: Osvaldo is amazing! who? you! but he cant play wide-
edit-i never type that bojan is a poacher, who did it?
Xifio 17-09-2011, 08:03:PM Perrotta RWB, Taddei LWB?!!
LUCHOO! (H)
EDIT:
Daniele De Rossi playing in a 'modern interpretation Libero' role! love it! I really want to see this to work!
yoyo913 17-09-2011, 08:08:PM Goal.com:
"CK easily dealt with, Roma break but lose possession and Cambiasso puts the ball over the top for Lucio, but great save by Stekelenburg who takes a knee to the temple and is knocked clean out!! taking medical attention now, play stopped"
"concerned faces from Lucio most of all, lengthy stoppage and Bogdan Lobont from Steaua Bucherest on for the injured keeper, let's hope nothing serious" ??
Hope he's ok.
Xifio 17-09-2011, 08:40:PM ^ amazing commitment from Maarten ... he didn't go unconscious immediately, which is always a good thing ... he blinked (looking straight at the TV camera), laid down on his back, and then passed out ... hopefully he doesn't have a broken neck or something, coz he could be crucial for Roma this season ...
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the De Rossi "21st century Beckenbauer" experiment is impressing me so far ...
if you like tactics, you should be watching this match ...
Arnau 17-09-2011, 08:57:PM Perrotta RWB, Taddei LWB?!!
LUCHOO! (H)
For some reason that kind of choaches do this often. Bielsa play Gurpegui and De Marcos as fullbacks and Guardiola J.Dos Santos.
Arnau 17-09-2011, 09:18:PM the De Rossi "21st century Beckenbauer" experiment is impressing me so far ...
if you like tactics, you should be watching this match ...
It's not an experiment, it's a tactic to create superiority in that zone and start the attack there. Roma (this style of football) start to build the attack with a short pass of the GK to the CB. This is taught in la masía and Busquets it's the master at it.
Xifio 17-09-2011, 09:47:PM a tactic to create superiority in that zone and start the attack there. Roma (this style of football) start to build the attack with a short pass of the GK to the CB.yup, that's a good short summary of the use of the libero ...
This is taught in la masíaexactly ... De Rossi did not go through La Masía ... and Franco Baresi was a Milanista ...
if the first time he is given such a role is in a big match against Inter, it is an experiment ... and the experiment was a resounding success! :bouncy: can't wait to see more of this for Roma, and maybe even Prandelli's Azzurri ...
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Simon Kjær had an excellent debut, with masterly positioning and reading of the game ... that brilliant block on Sneijder's goal-bound shot may be the highlight, but his work throughout the match was just superb ...
60% ball possession for Roma, but they failed to convert it into goal-scoring chances ... Osvaldo has to take most of the blame for that, who's movement was too hesitant, too laboured, or both ...
but so many encouraging signs for Lucho's Roma! that was an absorbing, intriguing match from a tactical viewpoint (Y) ...
Arnau 17-09-2011, 09:51:PM You have the ability to take a part of the argument and convert into a "whole", i admire you.
Can't wait to see Lamela in this team, he can break defenses dribbling and Roma doesn't have many good players at 1-on-1 situations. Only if Ménez had stayed...
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Xifio 23-09-2011, 05:22:PM had the match recorded, and running in the background while I did some work late last night ...
for the second match running, Kjær makes a goal-saving block with the keeper beaten ... he didn't have the best of games, but his reading of the game and his positioning is still clutch ...
and I'm still loving De Rossi's libero role, dropping deep from DM to play sweeper, and then pushing up with the attack ... amazing youth product; DiBenedetto and his lawyers need to pull out all the stops to get Daniele's contract extension sewn up ...
Osvaldo finally got a goal, albeit just a tap-in ... I don't like Borriello, but he deserves the credit for laying that up on a platter ... in fact, he put in quite a bit of hard running for the team, which is commendable ...
the passing and movement is getting there ... Miki Pjanić looks classy, but he's not really been making the killer passes a creative outlet needs to ... I think the forwards' lack of positive mobility takes part of the blame, but so does Pjanić ...
but it seems more of a matter of time before everyone gets in tune with each other's movement, and can finally convert all the ball possession to chances, and goals ...
Arnau 01-10-2011, 05:27:PM Great finish by Bojan, so glad he score!
Xifio 02-10-2011, 06:16:AM ^ he got a little lucky with the control, but yeah, it should do his confidence a lot of good ... the ball to find him from De Rossi was the brilliant part of that goal ...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5979/xifioromaatalanta.jpg
Osvaldo on the scoresheet again, this time with some slick skill ... but again, he should have had more than one (wasted an easier chance when put through by Totti) ...
could have been a nervy climax once it became 2-1, but some wonderful interplay between Pjanić and Simplicio sealed those important 3 points ...
Atalanta were the most in-form team in the league, so this is a solid win for Roma ... one step at a time for Lucho's brigade http://blog.meebo.com/skin/beta/img/emoticons/thumb-up.gif ...
Do you think Totti fit into Enrique's system!!!!! he plays confused.
Arnau 16-10-2011, 07:45:PM Lazio vs Roma. Daje Roma!
Xifio 16-10-2011, 10:28:PM http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1851/xifiotottiderbybanner.jpg
Arnau 16-10-2011, 10:30:PM That stupid penalty screwed all. Fair victory by Lazio.
Azrael 16-10-2011, 10:36:PM Has Pizarro not fully recovered from injury? Why is he not a definite starter in a squad with a ball-retention philosophy?
Arnau 16-10-2011, 10:41:PM I was wondering the same thing, should have played over Perrotta who had a terrible match.
Xifio 16-10-2011, 11:09:PM Perotta was playing RAM ... but when Totti is fit, it should be Osvaldo-Totti-Bojan up front ...
Pizarro is competing for a central spot, but slows the game down a little too much ... Gago is the better choice there, especially with Pjanić in front of him ...
Arnau 16-10-2011, 11:16:PM I'd swap Gago and De Rossi positions, Gago is more an static player than De Rossi which is more energetic and dynamic with a better eye for score goals.
Nimreitz 16-10-2011, 11:22:PM Never really thought Perotta was that good even when he was in that Italy squad in 2006. TBH I'm stunned that he's still playing at 34. Figured he'd be crap by now like Camoranesi (another member of that team I didn't rate). For the record, I don't dislike them because they're Italian, I appreciate many skillful and talented Italian players. Those two (plus Iaquinta) just always left me baffled at how they kept playing when they weren't good enough.
Xifio 16-10-2011, 11:23:PM @Arnau: the system is not a problem ... De Rossi is incredible that modern libero role! he freely moves forward, and drops deep to make crucial tackles and collect the ball ... Gago lends the added ballwinning abilities in the middle, which will be perfect once Miki Pjanić settles into calcio, and starts providing more goals ...
Azrael 16-10-2011, 11:36:PM Every time I've seen Pizarro play he's shown a lot of vision, great passing technique and swiftness in possession. He's also quite solid defenisively, it so I really don't see what Gago offers that Pizarro doesn't improve upon (other than ball-winning, although still, with De Rossi there you don't need a holder), other than durability and energy.
EDIT: I've only seen one Roma match this season, but it just sounds like Pizarro fits the Libero role more than De Rossi. De Rossi should stick to midfield and provide his energy to go forward as well as defend, and Pizarro should come deep and collect the ball and dictate play from the back.
Nimreitz 16-10-2011, 11:42:PM I think you're wrong. For all the flash that we associate with the libero, there have only been a couple players to actually do it well. That's because the first priority is, and remains, being a defender. You have to be not only technically astute, physically strong, quick, and a positioning genius, but you also have to be a top defender in its own right. If I had to mold any modern player into a libero, De Rossi would probably be in my top 5, maybe 1 or 2 if I really gave it thought. Pizarro I wouldn't consider.
Azrael 16-10-2011, 11:57:PM I don't think De Rossi is actually playing as a libero, though, is he? From my understanding he's been playing in a Busquets-role variant, and Pizarro fits the Busquets role very well. When I said Libero role, I meant Roma's Libero role, not the old-school sweeper role.
Xifio 17-10-2011, 12:33:AM Dan's spot-on when he says the libero is a defender first ...
in Lucho's system, De Rossi either sits as an anchor in front of the back 2, or drops deep into that sweeper hole ... the term 'modern libero' applies coz it is the contemporary iteration of the historically evolving defensive free-role position ...
Azrael 17-10-2011, 12:41:AM Not arguing that a Libero is a defender first, just not sure that De Rossi is playing as an actual libero. From what I've seen, heard and read, he drops into the defense in possession more so than in defense. Today, for example, he tracked Hernanes more so than play between the centrebacks.
The Libero's starting position was in defense and he would move forward to join the attack, not the other way arond, wherein he drops back to help with ball distribution from the defense and allow the fullbacks to attack freely. In the latter, which is basically the Busquets role that Barca employ, I think Roma should use Pizarro or Gago. Play De Rossi in a typical midfield role, which I feel is a better use of both of their abilities.
Xifio 17-10-2011, 12:52:AM Barça play a much higher line than Roma, so Sergio B. doesn't usually have too far to go from midfield to be behind the defensive line ... De Rossi meanwhile, is often the deepest defensive player, sweeping behind the centrebacks in the box ... he does start from the anchor role, so your comparison isn't completely invalid; but if one understands the etymology of the word 'libero', one would understand why I insist on calling his role for Roma the 'modern libero' ...
Nimreitz 17-10-2011, 12:59:AM *raises hand*
"Free Man"!!!!!!
Arnau 23-10-2011, 11:34:PM Lamela, what a debut (Y)
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Haarithan 01-11-2011, 08:04:AM To anybody who follows Italian football or Roma closely - what have you made of Lamela?
ArgVega 05-11-2011, 10:35:PM Its exciting to see Lamela, Bojan, and Pjanic on the same pitch. Roma has lots of potential if they keep these players.
Xifio 06-11-2011, 07:00:AM http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1987/xifioromaincostruzione.png
Bojan really changed the game for the better, after Roma were looking rather unimpressive; he, Lamela, and Osvaldo make for a very good attacking trident, coz they play off each other well, have very different skill sets, and like to drift (wide/centre) ... that formation also allows Miki Pjanić to play deeper, where he can show his true ability -- that dinked ball over the top for Bojan's breakthrough goal was superb ... Roma's still "under construction", but the potential is there for all to see ...
Arnau 06-11-2011, 04:35:PM Lamela was in wrong position, he would be better as 10 with Bojan and Osvaldo up front wide.
Xifio 20-12-2011, 01:54:AM Roma's been the team with the most possession in all of Serie A ... so it's ironic that their most important win of the season comes after conceding the lion's share of ball possession to a team known for being a counterattacking outfit ... yes, Lucho's team rode their luck against Napoli (2 of the 3 goals scored, Hamšík's unbelievable open-goal miss, and of course the woodwork's good defensive work), but it's this kind of result that can lift spirits within a talented group, and push them to play to their potential ...
there is talk of Nilmar joining in January ... I obviously approve of the move; his pace will definitely add a dimension erstwhile missing to Roma's frontline ...
Arnau 21-01-2012, 05:27:PM Best performance in Luis Enrique era so far. Awesome first half.
Arnau 21-01-2012, 06:29:PM Pjanic! prima manita di Lucho.
Xifio 21-01-2012, 06:37:PM http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5072/xifioluchomanita.jpg
Xifio 29-04-2012, 01:55:AM entertaining 2-2 draw against Napoli, with an impressive first half; shame it fell apart in the second half ... which leads us onto the real topic: it's almost May, and the fans' patience with Lucho is wearing thin ...
it was good to see that some still showed admiration for his ethic, despite wanting to part ways ...
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6237/xifioromaluchocurva.jpg
others kept it to a simple "begone" ...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4985/xifioromaluchocurva2.jpg
Champions League qualification is just about impossible, though Europe possibly still beckons ... hard to say if Luis Enrique will be given another year to show that his ideas can take root ... for his sake, I hope so ...
lastly, the most striking image was Totti going over to the fans after the match, to hear their thoughts (vociferous lamentations, more like) ... un capitano, c'è solo un capitano ...
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3016/xifioromatottitifosi.jpg
Filipower 29-04-2012, 06:50:PM un capitano, c'è solo un capitano ...
Inglês, foda-se!
Xifio 29-04-2012, 07:10:PM un capitano, c'è solo un capitano ...Inglês, foda-se!erm:
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but since you were just trolling: vai tomar no cu! (H)
Filipower 29-04-2012, 07:24:PM Yeah because that's what Portuguese people say, lol.
Xifio 29-04-2012, 07:54:PM uhh, eu sou do Brasiu, e não falo inglês? I'll just excuse myself now from this riveting conversation ...
Filipower 29-04-2012, 07:58:PM What?
Coruja 29-04-2012, 09:30:PM Damn Xifio's amazing.
i still dont know whats your first language.
Azrael 29-04-2012, 09:36:PM He should really be getting carded.
Filipower 29-04-2012, 10:23:PM I still don't know if he thinks I'm Brazilian.
Xifio 10-05-2012, 11:41:PM so, Lucho told the players this morning that he was leaving ... this despite seniors players like De Rossi and Totti vouching for him ...
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1548/xifioluchototti.jpg
sad that it didn't work out for him, and for Roma ... there was temporary talk of AVB as the frontrunner not too long ago (which would have been quite a surprise), but now it's all about the return of Montella ... with no European distractions, they can try to pull Juve next season, if they play it smart ...
Roma needs fullbacks. Van der Wiel?
Also Boriello has more titles than Totti :/
Arnau 11-05-2012, 01:50:PM Lucho is leaving. Close this thread, not interesting anymore
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