We are currently trying to figure out if we should update to the the newest version of vBulletin. We are currently running version 3.8.4, while the newest version is 4.1.5. The new version is a major upgrade with a big set of new features.

We want your opinion about this. Do you want us to upgrade to the newest version or do you like it to stay as it is today? Please have your say in this thread and also answer the poll.

Thanks for your feedback,
nor-rbk

There are several reasons for why we want your feedback on this. Me and Matt Holme have discussed some of them and I have quoted from an email between us where we shortly discussed why we want your opinion.

------Original Message------
From: <nor-rbk@soccergaming.com>
To: Holme
Subject: RE: Updating the forums
Sent: 13 Aug 2011 21:54

Good question, I'm not sure really. But we have lost many members over
the last few years and maybe an update will keep some members on the
boards and attract new members, I don't have a good answer to this. If
we do choose to update I think it's important that we still have the
SG theme (or a new SG theme) and don't get a generic theme.

I'll create a poll and ask our members if they would like an update or not.

Quoting Matt Holme <matt@soccergaming.com>:

> Hi nor-rbk,
>
> The new forums are a major upgrade, a big set of new features. I'm
> wondering, are people wanting such a big change, or do they ultimately hang
> out at SG due to the simpleness of the forums?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <nor-rbk@soccergaming.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:06 AM
> To: Matt Holme
> Subject: Updating the forums
>
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering, do you have any plans on updating to the newest
> version of vBulletin. We are currently running version 3.8.4, while
> the newest version is 4.1.5.
>
> nor-rbk

I've grown accustomed to the way things are, really. Where can I check out the new version?

I've grown accustomed to the way things are, really. Where can I check out the new version?

+1 Same here......would like to see how it would be.

I'm not totally sure on how it will look, but this is how it is at the official vBulletin forum. I still want us to keep an SG theme for our forums.

https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum.php

Bear in mind that it's not the design of the forums that we want to change, we still want it to look the "SG way", but it's more about functionality.


One of the main reason for why I do want an update is that I hope the new forums will have better spam handling than what we have now.

You're definitely right, I guess I wouldn't mind the update, it's not going to change too much anyway, and it'll improve some things for sure.

Yeah whatever.

I´m looking forward to the update, certainly. Speaking as programmer, it will englobe new tecnologies, make the forum more secure thanks to the modules/components... it´s up to us get used with possible layout changes, worth the "risk".

Att,
XandeAlves2000

I have voted "yes".

I think the current forum is good and don't need any change:)

Yes, we badly need it ;)

If it cuts down spam yes.

If it cuts down spam yes.

I don't know if it actually would help, but I really hope so.

i say yea but not just to updating the forums but to the way they are run in general.
especially in the fifa forums where anyone has the ability to do & say anything they want w/ recklessness & no regard to forum rules.

no mods are around to police the forums & things get way out of hand & im no exception to that i do it as much as anyone else so im not calling out names other than my own.

but something has got to give around here, either more mods being active in a mod manner, something.

truthfully for newbies they should be linked directly to the rules page as soon as they sign in for their first 100 posts to get them to become fully understanding of the way things work around here.

i know it sounds annoying & unfair but i feel its justified, not to mention its saves double posts, unneeded threads & most of all saves site bandwidth we know isnt free.

the only 2 mods i ever see on the forums are keegan & outsider87, no idea where slowhand & santups went.

i think its time we elect new mods that are actually around the forums & will do something to keep them in line.

but it really needs a fix, take a look around all the best are gone due to it & the editing suffers tremendously w/ 3 or 4 good editors
w/ maximal knowledge are here & the rest of the editors are average at best & the ones who put it the most get the least out of it.

to me & im sure to them as well is a little unfair, im sure things will pan out if we can all get on the same page & save this so called editing community before it completely dies out & there is nothing for the future fifa games.

this section of soccergaming needs to get back to the way it was in 08/09 & stay there.

Upgrade for the best!

Definitely upgrade. (Y)

As long as it doesn't load slow.

I agree with regularcat.
And my opinion is that it would be great to update forum. I am new here, and I like it, but updating is always a good thing.

I would say update it, coz it will bring in lot of new features. You can always keep the SG theme intact.

It even has some Forum Robot Spam Prevention Recommendations (https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php/288234-Forum-Robot-Spam-Prevention-Recommendations) which is badly needed...

@ regularcat: Thanks for the feedback. We will look into this when we create the new FIFA 12 Forum.

@ mk11mayur: We already have that spam control installed. It actually stops about 200 spam posts a day! The problem seems to be that we can't stop spam bots from registering. Since January we've got over 1 000 000(!) new members and I don't think I exaggerate if I say that about 90% of those are spam bots.

+1 ! Upgrade

@ mk11mayur: We already have that spam control installed. It actually stops about 200 spam posts a day! The problem seems to be that we can't stop spam bots from registering. Since January we've got over 1 000 000(!) new members and I don't think I exaggerate if I say that about 90% of those are spam bots.
i know it bro..... coz i have a forum at FIFA-INDIA (http://fifa-india.tk/forums) and almost 90% members are spam-bots..
i agree w/ regularcat that we should have some more modders who can at least delete posts/threads by these bots...

i would suggest having moderators for different sections.
like person A will look into FIFA 1X forum
person B will look into FIFA 1X pc editing forum
person C will look into FIFA 1X support forum
person D will look into FIFA 1X kits forum
person E will look into FIFA 1X mods forum
and so on.....

what do you think about it??

i know it bro..... coz i have a forum at FIFA-INDIA (http://fifa-india.tk/forums) and almost 90% members are spam-bots..
i agree w/ regularcat that we should have some more modders who can at least delete posts/threads by these bots...

i would suggest having moderators for different sections.
like person A will look into FIFA 1X forum
person B will look into FIFA 1X pc editing forum
person C will look into FIFA 1X support forum
person D will look into FIFA 1X kits forum
person E will look into FIFA 1X mods forum
and so on.....

what do you think about it??

This is exactly one of the options we are currently discussing and I do think that would be a good solution.

I like the forum such as this, but maybe upgrade bring more people :)

P.s. we need more moderators (Y)

yeah, update it but keep a similar theme.

Yes if it means you'll be able to delete a load of old posts without risking corruption.

As long as it doesn't load slow.

^This.

I have a question regarding spammers.
Are spam users deleted (their account) from this forum or they are only banned for temporary (and their account still exists)? Cause it writes that there are about 128,896 users. If this counts all banned spammers then its wrong picture about users here. And I noticed that there a lot of users which are not active for more then 7-8 years.

+1 for update and would be good if everyone can edit the name of its own thread :)

i say yea but not just to updating the forums but to the way they are run in general.
especially in the fifa forums where anyone has the ability to do & say anything they want w/ recklessness & no regard to forum rules.

no mods are around to police the forums & things get way out of hand & im no exception to that i do it as much as anyone else so im not calling out names other than my own.

but something has got to give around here, either more mods being active in a mod manner, something.

truthfully for newbies they should be linked directly to the rules page as soon as they sign in for their first 100 posts to get them to become fully understanding of the way things work around here.

i know it sounds annoying & unfair but i feel its justified, not to mention its saves double posts, unneeded threads & most of all saves site bandwidth we know isnt free.

the only 2 mods i ever see on the forums are keegan & outsider87, no idea where slowhand & santups went.

i think its time we elect new mods that are actually around the forums & will do something to keep them in line.

but it really needs a fix, take a look around all the best are gone due to it & the editing suffers tremendously w/ 3 or 4 good editors
w/ maximal knowledge are here & the rest of the editors are average at best & the ones who put it the most get the least out of it.

to me & im sure to them as well is a little unfair, im sure things will pan out if we can all get on the same page & save this so called editing community before it completely dies out & there is nothing for the future fifa games.

this section of soccergaming needs to get back to the way it was in 08/09 & stay there.

FIFA forums are full of outlaws.

I have a question regarding spammers.
Are spam users deleted (their account) from this forum or they are only banned for temporary (and their account still exists)? Cause it writes that there are about 128,896 users. If this counts all banned spammers then its wrong picture about users here. And I noticed that there a lot of users which are not active for more then 7-8 years.

The accounts of spammers are not deleted. There are two reasons why, firstly there is no easy way to delete many users at one time as I know of, meaning I will have to delete one and one users wich will take forever. Secondly, I fear that if I do delete these users they will register with the same user names over and over again. Unfortunelately this means that we do have a lot more registered users than what is correct, so the members count is very unaccurate in that way.

Having spambots also prevents people who'd also like to legitimately use a combination of characters for their own username. (rare or not as the case may be.)

and +1 upgrade ftw.

Agree with Regularcat !

I agree with others that the update is very needed, but also i would like that two things remained, the soccergaming theme and the actual speed of the forums.

if it looks better and works better... why not???... evolution is a part of life

hahahahaha "My Balls Thread" (H)

whats this all about, maybe a new forum will stop this ****
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/Mick-S/Image1-5.png

no, a non-****ty browser + an ad-blocker will stop that ****


as for the topic, I don't really care tbh...I think it's ok the way it is now.


hahahahaha "My Balls Thread" (H)
WIN (H)

hahahahaha "My Balls Thread" (H)

HAHAHAHA...now that's an interesting thread right there. (H)

Possibility to search for posts with an exact phrase by using quotation marks
(" ") would be nice.

I like new things. So, please upgrade :D

I have a question regarding spammers.
Are spam users deleted (their account) from this forum or they are only banned for temporary (and their account still exists)? Cause it writes that there are about 128,896 users. If this counts all banned spammers then its wrong picture about users here. And I noticed that there a lot of users which are not active for more then 7-8 years.
The accounts of spammers are not deleted. There are two reasons why, firstly there is no easy way to delete many users at one time as I know of, meaning I will have to delete one and one users wich will take forever. Secondly, I fear that if I do delete these users they will register with the same user names over and over again. Unfortunelately this means that we do have a lot more registered users than what is correct, so the members count is very unaccurate in that way.
Okay, so I guess there is a way after all since we now are down to 130 000 members. I didn't do this so I actually don't know exactly what happened, but at least the member count is more accurate now.

Anyway, it looks like the majority here do want an update and we appreciate all the feedback we have recieved and we will take this into consideration.

There's 28 members and 283 guests on as I am typing this post. If you guys are going to update these forums, perhaps it is time to also start coming up with a plan to encourage these guests to register and contribute something to this forum.

I think that this forum style is good! no need to change!

I think that this forum style is good! no need to change!

But the problem is that this version of VB is way old, they will have to convert it to the new VB, which will take lots of time.

But the problem is that this version of VB is way old, they will have to convert it to the new VB, which will take lots of time.

Admins knw better than me! so i think sg forums needs change!