ENOUGH SAID!

Soon to be the European Champions!
I think I hear the faint whisper of "Double, Double, Double" :D :D

Bayern sux they are just damn lucky!!Schalke has deserve the title cos they have play a great season..GO VALENCIA GO VALENCIA EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS CF VALENCIA!!!
<---Forza Juve--->

Originally posted by Neom@ster:
<STRONG>Bayern sux they are just damn lucky!!Schalke has deserve the title cos they have play a great season..GO VALENCIA GO VALENCIA EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS CF VALENCIA!!!
&lt;---Forza Juve---&gt;</STRONG>

Shut Up Neom@ster !!

Yea. Well Bayern Munich must have had a better season then, eh? By 1 point.......So, I guess they deserved it.

FUSSBALL KANN SO GRAUSAM SEIN!!!! *heul* :( :( :(

Oh, I hate Bayern Munich! In the 90th minute they get the 0:1 against Hamburg -&gt; Schalke is Champion. And in the 93rd minute Patrick Andersson scores by an indirect freekick. At that time Schalke's fans were on the field of the Parkstadion and they celebrated the Championship with the players!

I hope that Valencia will defeat Bayern as ManU did it in 99!!

Yeah, this is sux! Shalke beat Bayern twice this season i think. They did a better job, but lost a title on the last minute! Man this is too sux. Valencia will win in CL this year, especially because they missed a chance last year! Fc Valencia are the CL champions.

GO Valencia,GO Valencia European Champions CF Valencia!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

http://www.antibayern.de/images/fun/scheifcb.gif :D :D :D

http://www.antibayern.de/images/fun/kahn2.jpg
hehe that one is better... Olli Kahn rulez!! *lol* :D :D :D :D :D

I think you'r emaking fun of Manchester United, Real Madrid, and all the other German teams or people who played them. HAHA, they lost to an ape. The ape saved more goals then their goalies. HAHA!!!! :cool: :cool:

Originally posted by Joe:
<STRONG>I think you'r emaking fun of Manchester United, Real Madrid, and all the other German teams or people who played them. HAHA, they lost to an ape. The ape saved more goals then their goalies. HAHA!!!! :cool: :cool:</STRONG>

Wrong! Oliver Reck from Schalke and Richard Golz from Freiburg got less goals than Munich :D

And in the DFB-Cup Bayern lost against Magdeburg (they play in the 4th League)! HA HA! :D :D

Wasn't it in that Bayern-Madgeburg match that Carsten Jancker's dick came out of his shorts? What the **** - he had his HOG'S EYE on the ball? Dirty bastard shouldn't spank his monkey during a match - BALD FICKEN FOTZE...... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Though I do reckon Schalke wuz robbed... But I'm shocked at Antman! A German supporting Man United??? WTF???

Heh there's Kahn the Ape and Jancker the Monkey Spanker...

They don't call him Carsten Wanker for nothing. FICKEN WICHSEN, or as Pro Sieben (I think) called him: PFERDERIEMEN!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Mad Dogg ]

hehe! Not every German is tasteless :D

Originally posted by Mad Dogg:
<STRONG>Heh there's Kahn the Ape and Jancker the Monkey Spanker...

They don't call him Carsten Wanker for nothing. FICKEN WICHSEN, or as Pro Sieben (I think) called him: PFERDERIEMEN!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Mad Dogg ]</STRONG>

Carsten Wanker. LOOOL
Yes, Stefan Raab called him Pferderiemen. There was another player from Greuther Fürth (2. Bundesliga) whose dick came out of his shorts. His name is Ingo Walther.

the dick????!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

Ok...I have one question for you "germans" guys....u know who u are .....how come u guys support clubs from england, italy and not clubs from your own country....I don't believe that....Go man united????? is man u from germany?? y don't you guys support clubs like shalke, bayern, Borussia......u know clubs from germany.....cuz i was born in brazil and i never thought about cheering for an argetinian or chilean club.....I don't get you guys..... :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Ronaldinho Gaucho ]

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Ronaldinho Gaucho ]

Very simple:

Since the late seventies Bayern have been by far the richest club in the country. Ever since then we were happy to have a different champion *once* *in* *a* *while*. Whenever there are talented players popping up at some other German clubs Bayern goes out and buys them. They kept buying the top players (4 alltogether now) from Karlsruhe who are now struggleing in the 3rd league. You'll hardly find any German indifferent about Bayern. Either you're a fan or you hate them. Most Germans are ready to cheer for anybody against Bayern.

Cheers,

Herbert

[ 05-20-2001: Message edited by: herbert ]

lol
nice pics you got there :D

That's true. Many Germans, and me too, are always against Bayern. Either you are a Bayern-fan or you hate them. And one reason for hating Bayern are these fans, which are only fans because of Bayern's success. Normally I prefer clubs from the ex-GDR because I am from East-Germany and these clubs have to achieve something with quite small money-ressources. There isn only one "Western German" Team that I really support, and thats Borussia Dortmund. :)

there are some more on www.antibayern.de (http://www.antibayern.de)

Also funny pics after Barcelona 99! Yeeeehaaaa!! :D :D

Originally posted by Antman:
<STRONG>That's true. Many Germans, and me too, are always against Bayern. Either you are a Bayern-fan or you hate them. And one reason for hating Bayern are these fans, which are only fans because of Bayern's success. Normally I prefer clubs from the ex-GDR because I am from East-Germany and these clubs have to achieve something with quite small money-ressources. There isn only one "Western German" Team that I really support, and thats Borussia Dortmund. :)</STRONG>

thats right the eastern germany teams have not so much money like the western teams.My 2nd favorite club behind Juve is Dortmund too ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D

Originally posted by Can't stop the rush...:
<STRONG>lol
nice pics you got there :D</STRONG>
hehehe www.antibayern.de (http://www.antibayern.de)
:D :D :D

Originally posted by Neom@ster:
<STRONG>thats right the eastern germany teams have not so much money like the western teams.My 2nd favorite club behind Juve is Dortmund too ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D</STRONG>

Hehe, I think we will understand us veeery good :D :D

YEah i see what you guys are saying....i thought that the german clubs wwere pretty even......see these are the teams i thouht were pretty descent....Hertha, Shalke, Bayern Leverkusen, Dortumont and Bayern Muchen......well i guess i was wrong...didn't dortumont used to have a pretty good team a while back...they used to have this guy in mid named Moller I think.....he used to wear 10....whatever happened to that guy??? I think he was even selected for the 98 wc....didn't he? Cheers.... :cool:

Originally posted by Ronaldinho Gaucho:
<STRONG>YEah i see what you guys are saying....i thought that the german clubs wwere pretty even......see these are the teams i thouht were pretty descent....Hertha, Shalke, Bayern Leverkusen, Dortumont and Bayern Muchen......well i guess i was wrong...didn't dortumont used to have a pretty good team a while back...they used to have this guy in mid named Moller I think.....he used to wear 10....whatever happened to that guy??? I think he was even selected for the 98 wc....didn't he? Cheers.... :cool:</STRONG>

Möller transfered to Schalke before this saison for free. Yes, he played very often for Germany, but in the big tournaments (EC, WC) he always played very bad. (OK, in 96 it was quite OK)

@ Joe

Of Course Bayern has "real" fans, too. But when you remember: In 99 in the CL Semi-Final they played against Kiev. There were only 30.000 fans in the Olympiastadion (OK, the stadium sucks), and that's very poor.

PS: Cottbus will be in the 1.Bundesliga next year, too! :)

You guys are so f*cking jealous of Bayern Munich. With success comes money, and with money comes success. To be good at the beginning, like Bayern has done, you have to be really good. Why can't Schalke do it with little money like Bayern did in the 70's.

Also, Borossia Moenchengladbach were just as good as Bayern in the 70's, maybe better. Where are they now? Relegated. Why don't you just appreciate the success that Bayern have been able to maintain for 25 years? Not many teams can do that.

Also because of their money and therefore youth systems, they harvest young German talent that will be great for the country. Most recently, Zickler and Jancker. So they help you in International competitions, which I must say aren't looking bright for Deutschland in the future :(

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>You guys are so f*cking jealous of Bayern Munich. With success comes money, and with money comes success. To be good at the beginning, like Bayern has done, you have to be really good. Why can't Schalke do it with little money like Bayern did in the 70's.

Also, Borossia Moenchengladbach were just as good as Bayern in the 70's, maybe better. Where are they now? Relegated. Why don't you just appreciate the success that Bayern have been able to maintain for 25 years? Not many teams can do that.

Also because of their money and therefore youth systems, they harvest young German talent that will be great for the country. Most recently, Zickler and Jancker. So they help you in International competitions, which I must say aren't looking bright for Deutschland in the future :(</STRONG>

No, its not jealousy. It is the way how they got champion: In the last 3 matches they made the deciding goals always in the 90th minute. In the last saison, Leverkusen was too stupid to get champion. And if such a **** happens every saison you get very annoyed. It is absolutely right that Bayern worked hard for its success, and it is clear that they have to buy new players. But I don't know if you have ever seen an interview with Uli Hoeneß or Giovane Elber, these guys are so arrogant when they have won.
Many people in Germany complain about the Premier league, that it would be so boring, ManU is always Champion and so on. But here in Germany its now almost the same! And you can't describe the feeling, if you see 60000 Schalke-Fans celebrating their success and then the whole work is destroyed by the fortune of Bayern.

And, how I said before, if you are a real football-fan either you love Bayern, or you hate them. There exists nothing between in Germany.

PS: Mönchengladbach will play in the Bundesliga next saison again

[ 05-20-2001: Message edited by: Antman ]

Oh, so they must have planned scoring in the last 5 minutes of the game? Yea..uh huh. "Yea, well let them think they won the Championship. Then in the last minute of the game we'll score!"

With the sympathy of Bayern München it is the same like with Michael Schumacher, for some people they are arrogant, and for some people clever and cool (in my opinion Michael Schumacher is arrogant :D)

Yes thats the point.Most germans hate Bayern not because they win their matches so often no because they are so arogant after they win.they are bad winners and damn i hate Uli hoeneß the manager of bayern.he says bayern is the best team in the world..thats very stupid.they have won the championsleague 3times i think..look real madrid have won it 8 times :D ..just for example..ok ok what i really mean is that a real winner team is not a arogant team.a real winner team works hard and plays fair...and a real winner team is a fair winner and a good winner and a real winner team is fair before and after the match..phew thats all :D :D :D

Originally posted by Ronaldinho Gaucho:
<STRONG>Ok...I have one question for you "germans" guys....u know who u are .....how come u guys support clubs from england, italy and not clubs from your own country....I don't believe that....Go man united????? is man u from germany?? y don't you guys support clubs like shalke, bayern, Borussia......u know clubs from germany.....cuz i was born in brazil and i never thought about cheering for an argetinian or chilean club.....I don't get you guys..... :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Ronaldinho Gaucho ]

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: Ronaldinho Gaucho ]</STRONG>
I support Manchester United, but from former USSR and many russians and belarussians support Spartak Moscow. When u walk on the streets of Belarus u can see many people with Man U or Barca kits, but when u ask them for the best 11 players from their team, they only can name 5 maximum
:eek: , but they can name more, than 11 players from Spartak! There are some like me. But not everyone.

Originally posted by Antman:
<STRONG>That's true. Many Germans, and me too, are always against Bayern. Either you are a Bayern-fan or you hate them. And one reason for hating Bayern are these fans, which are only fans because of Bayern's success. Normally I prefer clubs from the ex-GDR because I am from East-Germany and these clubs have to achieve something with quite small money-ressources. There isn only one "Western German" Team that I really support, and thats Borussia Dortmund. :)</STRONG>
Yeah just like in Spain, many fans are hate Real M. because they won 8 CL titles!

Originally posted by Help?3:
<STRONG>Originally posted by Antman:
That's true. Many Germans, and me too, are always against Bayern. Either you are a Bayern-fan or you hate them. And one reason for hating Bayern are these fans, which are only fans because of Bayern's success. Normally I prefer clubs from the ex-GDR because I am from East-Germany and these clubs have to achieve something with quite small money-ressources. There isn only one "Western German" Team that I really support, and thats Borussia Dortmund. :)</STRONG>
Yeah just like in Spain, many fans are hate Real M. because they won 8 CL titles!

yes but Real is not so arrogant like bayern :cool:


GO VALENCIA GO VALENCIA EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS CF VALENCIA!!!!!
WEDNESDAY IS YOUR DARKEST NIGHTMARE BAYERN MUNICH!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by Help?3:
Yeah just like in Spain, many fans are hate Real M. because they won 8 CL titles![/QB]


Not everyone though...

:D
hehe

I think it's f*cking ridiculous that Bayern won the Bundesliga in injury time.
It really, really sucks, a lot of people think that Schalke should've been the champions but that's football.
Still, I take my hat off for Huub Stevens and Schalke04 for a fantastic effort this season. Bayern was lucky, nothing more and they still s*ck all the way!!!!
I do hope that they will face ManUnited again and that Bayern will go down big time where v Nistelrooy scores the winning goal for ManU :D :D :D :D

FU*CK BAYERN MUNICH, GO VALENCIA!
Btw Neom@ster, nice to meet a fellow Bayernhater and I really dig your pics hehehe
keep em coming :cool:

[ 05-20-2001: Message edited by: Silencer ]

silencer... why can't bayern win the title in injury time??? didn't your man u won the CL in injury time also??? just ease up guys, i know you guys don't like bayern but the fact is that they won the title that's it!!

btw, congrats for bayern in winning the Bundesliga again...

I have nothing against Bayern fans, but Hoeness is the biggest a**hole I've seen in a VERY long time...

BTW, any of you anti-bayern fans has the '87 EC final Madjer goal video on AVI or MPG?

[ 05-20-2001: Message edited by: Alenitchev ]

Originally posted by Neom@ster:
<STRONG>i hate Uli hoeneß the manager of bayern</STRONG>

I am about 99.9999999999% sure that Otmar Hitzfeld is manager. Hoeness is just Director of Football Operations, and Beckenbauer is Chairman.

And by the way, if you were a real german, you would not use the "ß" symbol as it is no longer a part of the language :D

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>I am about 99.9999999999% sure that Otmar Hitzfeld is manager. Hoeness is just Director of Football Operations, and Beckenbauer is Chairman.


And by the way, if you were a real german, you would not use the "ß" symbol as it is no longer a part of the language :D</STRONG>

No you write Hoeneß with ,,ß´´
Hoeneß is such an asshole you cant belive it..when you have ever seen a interview with him you know what i mean..arrogant,stupid i think almost every hates Uli Hoeneß..

Well, I am an American. And all the times I've known Bayern Munich they have been good. They get those fans because they play in big events that are telivised around the world. That's an advantage of being good, more fans because they are being exposed to more of the team.

Second of all. If they were in relegation, or just plain sucked. I know I would cheer for them, maybe not as vigorously as now. In America we call the people that support only the good teams "Fair weather fans".

Take for example the NFL's Buffalo Bills. A fan all my life. When I was little they went in 4 super bowls in a row (and lost them all). It hurt me, but I knew they were good to make it that far. Then they had their years where they did nothing. I still am a fan today -- "what goes around comes around". Some people are different I know..

Yeah ß is still used, but I can't understand why over here they put ae, oe and ue for ä, ö, ü... No wonder nobody in Britain can spell Mönchengladbach properly!!!!!!!!!

Do Brits know there is an ALT key on their keyboard???

But how do Brits write "Sami Hypiää"? Sami Hypiaeae? :D :D

Actually his name is spelt Hyypiä, but they put Hyypia...
But every time it's a German name (or also Austrian), they always add an E for some bizarre reason!!!

Anyway, I thought ß was the second letter of the Greek alphabet :D :D

I just use ae and ue, because I always forget the code for the umlouts.

Oh yeah, and if the manager is called the trainer, what are the coaches called? Wasserjuegen? :D

[ 05-21-2001: Message edited by: Nimreitz ]

LOL

The Coaches are called Co-Trainer. In Germany the teams don't have as many Coaches as for example in England. Only Leverkusen had quite many coaches (Berti Vogts, Littbarski, Harald Schumacher, Wolfgang Rolff) this season, but they were all sacked yesterday. HA HA!! :D
The Coaches for the Goalies are called Torwarttrainer.

yeah the new Leverkusen Coach is Klaus Toppmöller i think. :cool:

Originally posted by Nimreitz:
<STRONG>I am about 99.9999999999% sure that Otmar Hitzfeld is manager. Hoeness is just Director of Football Operations, and Beckenbauer is Chairman.

And by the way, if you were a real german, you would not use the "ß" symbol as it is no longer a part of the language :D</STRONG>

Here in Germany the Manager is called "Trainer" and the director of Football Operations is called "Manager". It's a bit confused :D

And the ß is still a part of the language, but it only stands after longly spoken vocals. And the spelling of names won't change.

Well, if you are translating stuff or whatever, i.e. a last name (just making this up) like Müller. They would change it to Mueller. And Anderßon (or whatever) they would change it to Andersson.

Im sure you all knew that though

Hi one word of me,

My English is not perfeckt, but i think you all undestand what i meen.

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BAYERN MUNICH

This is the best Clup in Germany and many Peaople hate this Clup !

I live in Munich and i can tell you that the other German Clups heave not the class to play in the international Buissnes !

Why ?

I dont know, i meen this is right, Bayern is the Rigest Clup in Germany, and they buy good Players from other german Clups, but this is not the ression, why Bayern wins the German Mastership or maeby the Champions Leage !

All the other German Clups, eave so much time to play for this Titel, i think seven Teams heave got this Year the Chance to win the Titel, and they can give 100% for this Titel, Bayern plays 17 Games in the Champuins Leage to !

Very Hard Games...

Arsenal
Manu
Moscau
Real
Leeds
PSG
Lion

and and and

Schale Dortmund ect. plays only in the Bundesliga, and Bayern wins at the end the Titel.

The other teams heave got the Players !
The other Teams heave got also the money !

But they play not good !

Schalke plays in Stuttgard, (one of the last matches) very bad, and they loos this Game.

Bayern wins in the importend Phase of the Mastership !

And now, everybody say´s, Bayern sucks, Bayern heave only luck, The reffere is buyed by Bayern, bla bla bla ...

Bayern is one of the best Teams in Europe, and you can say this Name in one line with teams like Real Manchester Juventus ect. !

They Fighting 95 Minutes !
with much discipline, very proffessional !

You dont need to like or love them, but dont say they playing bad, or they only win, because they buy all the good players from the other Clups !!

Schalke Leverkusen Dortmund, heave god also good players, and Money !
...but (simple)... they play this Session not good enough !

This teams must play better !

Or need Bayern to play bad???

..............

And for me, i can see Regional TV and i follow the News of my Clup !

This team is very good, thay dont heave Beckhams, Rauls or Robertos, in the Team, but they are a team !

With one of the best Goalkeepers and Trainer !

This is Bayern, you can hate them, or you can love them !

...but dont say, that they playing not good !

Your English isn't perfect, that's true ;)

In the main points you're right but it is really a pitty that the other clubs weren't able to use the chance when Bayern had some bad matches. And you have to admit that the 1:1 against Hamburg was also lucky, but it is also true that other teams would have given up after the 1:0 for Hamburg. But were you able to celebrate when you have seen the faces of the Schalke-fans after the goal for München. If München have had won 3:0 against the HSV, I wouldn't say anything, but they did in in such a cruel way for all non-Bayern-fans that I hate them more then before

PS: Are you Del Piero from the FIFACITY?

[ 05-22-2001: Message edited by: Antman ]

Originally posted by Antman:
<STRONG>Your English isn't perfect, that's true ;)

In the main points you're right but it is really a pitty that the other clubs weren't able to use the chance when Bayern had some bad matches. And you have to admit that the 1:1 against Hamburg was also lucky, but it is also true that other teams would have given up after the 1:0 for Hamburg. But were you able to celebrate when you have seen the faces of the Schalke-fans after the goal for München. If München have had won 3:0 against the HSV, I wouldn't say anything, but they did in in such a cruel way for all non-Bayern-fans that I hate them more then before

PS: Are you Del Piero from the FIFACITY?

[ 05-22-2001: Message edited by: Antman ]</STRONG>

Yes its very sad, i see the Faces of all Schalke Fans, but when you remember the match, Unterhaching, shooting first two goals, and Bayern dont need to win this Game.

I know its its terrible for Schalke, -&gt; last second :(

But they heave got the Chance to make all clear one week bevor, against Stuttgard, and i watch this game on Premiere, they playing very very very very !!!! BAD !

They walking on the field !

I heave really no Problem, when Bayern dont win the Titel, Schalke plays a good Session and with the time its... :D
...a little big boring, when Bayern wins every time the Titel.
With luck ? mmmhh Yes and no,,,
Leverkusen loos the last Match in Unterhaching, and this team is not one of the best !

This Year, Schalke and Stuttgard....

Hay ?
This is not really luck ! this is the result when you dont give 100% at the last Meters !
Bayern is proffesional enough, they fighting until the End !

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P.S.

Ja wollte trotz der ganzen Spy Cookies und so, meinen Senf dazugeben, ich verstehe ja wenn viele gegen Bayern sind, aber man kann nichts gegen den Fußball sagen der dort gespielt wird ;)

Hoeneß Beckenbauer Hitzfeld und alle anderen die bei Bayern "arbeiten" oder Mitglied sind, wie Gerd Müller, sind sehr proffesionell auf ihren Gebieten, wenn man Leverkusen Fan ist, oder Manchester Fan, ok dann ist man sicher kein Bayern fan, aber man sollte die Leistung dieser Manschaft respecktieren.

I respect the achievements of Bayern, in the last 30 years they developed to an European top-club. And without them the German football wouldn't be as successful, but ehm... it doesn't interest me if the German football is succesful :D :D

PS: Hehe, hab ich am Schreibstil erkannt, und daran dass du Club mit p schreibst :D

Del Piero vom GFO Forum?
Hey ich dachte du wärst Juve Fan ;) :p :D