For some reason .co.uk video game website are not very good at getting release dates posted on their web sites. Has anyone got an idea when it is released in the UK (I know it's some time at the end of the year but is it Nov, Dec?).

On a side note,

PES will wipe the floor with FIFA 2002. I'm not that impressed with the movies I have seen of FIFA 2002. I only hope that PES will have more club teams. It would be nice to have an even amount of teams from the top leagues in Europe. After all there were 6 English clubs in the master league but only 3 Spanish teams. I'm sure Alveres (SP?) should be in, after all they made the UEFA Cup final this year (One of the best finals in recent memory may I add! :) ). It's true that PES will never have the same amount of teams like FIFA but it be nice to have other well known clubs from other top leagues.

My main wish (although it will never come true anytime soon :mad: ) is that Sunderland will be in. Your probably going to say "Your only wanting Sunderland in because you support them!"

True! But look at it this way. In ISS Pro Evo 2 they put in West Ham. WEST HAM!!. Now I like West Ham and it's supporters (Very friendly when we go down there :) ) but Sunderland placed high then them in the Premier, beat them and other top teams at their own ground and just missed getting into Europe. How on earth did West Ham get into ISS PE2 ahead of Sunderland and others teams that finished higher and are considered bigger clubs (Although Middlesbough :rolleyes: don't count, they’re just a small town in Yorkshire! :D ). Maybe the best solution would be to add a create a team feature.

But in any event PES will be seriously top notch.

here the are daft mackemssss..... buzzen cos they bought nerdy laslandes... he couldn't put a hole in a wet newspaper... and u buzz of peter reids chip monk head...
and steve mcann the greatest midfeilder in the league as if iss are gunna put nerdy sunderland in the master league ... lmao ...
and you can't fill ur stadium so you put the a daft offer on.. buy 1 get 2 free tickets up for sale... even then you still can't give em away
And we are not a yorkshire town at all...
face it ur not that good... 2 daft seasons and you can't stop buzzen... you'll never have a greater player than juninho at ur club, nearest being super don... and he wants away...
imagine lanky quinn up front lmao lmao lmao...
if there gunna pick any team from up the north east its gunna be newcastle even though there the worst team... getting knocked out by trey lmaolmaolmaolmaolmao...
cos they have got the well known players...
the six teams should be
man utd
arsenal
chelsea
leeds
liverpool
newcastle
even though i hate em...

October first i believe.
http://ps2.totalgames.net/releases/

If it is going to be better than WE5 then it will be the best football game on the planet (a title WE5 holds right now).

>>I'm not that impressed with the movies I have seen of FIFA 2002<<

Nope neither am I! I hope that October 20th is the release date as it isn't too far away.

Hey aren't Middlesbrough bottom of the league?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by the_man:
[QB]October first i believe.
http://ps2.totalgames.net/releases/

Thanks m8, here’s looking forward to October.

Ah iss king, I am still in awe of the total gibberish that comes out of you smog monsters. We can't fill our stadium!? I'll think you'll find that home tickets are 9/10 sold out for every game (except for cup matches that are stupidly placed at 12:00 in the morning, all us Mackems have jobs to go to you know :D). The only reason we never have a full attendance is down to how many away fans turn up. Ipswich just gone had around 2200 seats allocated for their fans. Just under 3/4 was sold. Now who faults that, it’s not ours! As far as this silly argument about buy one get one free and schools get 25 tickets for nowt for their kids, I have never seen any advertising about buy one ticket get 1,2,3 tickets free. The only thing that comes close to this is that on cup matches, season ticket holders like myself can buy their own seat as usual but buy extra tickets for friends and family. We are given that choice and then the rest are put on general sale as usual. The free tickets for schools are one off promotions. These tickets would normally be put on general sale anyway but the club being a club for the people (unlike many other Premiership clubs) offer these free tickets to schools so that children can get to see a match and see their favourite players when normally they cannot. This also encourages children to go to the matches instead of being under-aged couch potatos and watching matches at home. You would be better off worrying more about the attendance of your own ground (Smoggies v Bradford last season springs to mind and only 525 away supporters of Man City compared to the average away attendance at Maine Road of around 1000-1200.

Skipping past your many uses of 'LMAO', you obviously seem to be convinced that Juninho is better than any of our players :rolleyes:! OK Quinn is getting on, we know that this is his last season. Kilbane I cannot stand so I'll give you that one but as far as the rest of the squad is concerned then I'm afraid you are clutching at straws. Juninho was your only good player in the 96/97 season. Then he left after he couldn't save you from the drop. He only came back after his playing career was starting to frail. All it did by returning to Smogland was make him worse. And what has happened to him now? I don't here his name mentioned at all hardly. Your only decent player at the moment would be Boksic, but he simply does not have the right kind of service for him to score regularly like at Lazio and he will be wanting out! You want to pick on Laslandes, a player you know nothing about well that’s fine. We were all saying "WHO!" when Reidy signed him. True we said the same when he bought Tom Peeters, Cast-iron Fireguard and Gerry Anderson. They all failed miserably. But then we also said "WHO!" to Kevin Phillips, Gavin McCann and Julio Arca and look at them:

Phillips: Highest Sunderland Post War scorer and top goal scorer in Europe in his first season in the Premiership.

McCann: Is one the most consistent central midfielders in the Premiership and is now picked ahead of your aging Paul Ince for the England squad.

Arca: Becomes an instant hit with SAFC fans and is now a recognised threat in the Premiership. Also captains the U21 Argentinean squad in U21 world cup and wins it.

Laslandes has yet to prove his worth so the jury is still out so you really can't bad mouth a player if you don't know him. If you look at his past records then you'll see his has been one of France's most prolific goal scorers and has once partnered a one Salvane Wiltord (Whom you will have seen as part of the team that whoop you good 4-0 at your place on the first day of the season :D ). Fair enough the Premiership is a different calibre league to the French league but that still doesn't mean that you can knock a player you have never seen for more than 10 games (An example of a player you can bad mouth after seeing a entire season of is Brian Deene :p ).

Now lets move onto the fact that you think we shouldn't be going on the way we do about our two seasons in the Premiership. I'd bet that you would much rather have your team in our position instead of your previous season where you were fighting against relegation (again). Bryan Robson was awarded most boring manager to conduct interviews and of course he was inevitably going to go after he lost the plot by signing has beens and placing player in the wrong positions. You did good bringing in El Tel (Even though you still only managed to get one point from us). However this new season was supposed to be a fresh start for the Smogmonsters. But in fact you have done the same thing as before. You have appointed a former member of the Man Unt fortress as your manager who has brought with him a bunch of Man Unt rejects and employs a Man Unt system with players who can't play like Man Unt (Dean Windass would have to have the pace and power of Van Nistilrooy to do that! Might be a touch too much for old Dean!).

As far as the ISS argument goes, of course I want Sunderland in the game it's the team I support. I'm sure all supporters of teams not in the game would love it if their team were in the best footy game around. I know that Sunderland are not going to be in the game any time soon. I'm getting at the fact that they picked West Ham ahead of another teams that might have been a tad more sensible. You think that they pick a team it because it's the only other team they know. You'll be surprised at how popular the entire Premiership is around the world including Japan. I know Japanese people who can talk about a Derby v Spurs match from 3 seasons ago! I'm sure that KCET know exactly who Sunderland, Middlesbough, Ipswich, Derby, Southampton and many others are. If they were picking a team that was very well known (And when I say well known I mean historically from the 60's, 70's and 80's) then Spurs, Villa and Everton would be much higher in the pecking order than West Ham. If they were picking a side who had done well during the 99/2000 season then the most obvious choice would have to be Leister City. They did rather well in the league and qualified for Europe by winning the League Cup! I would love to have Sunderland in ISS, but I know that there are other teams more deserving in the game other than the 2 North East teams (and then you lot) and West Ham.

Like I said before, the problem could be easily sorted by having a create a team feature where the nationality of the team can be picked and the player choosing to replace another club team to enter the D2 master league with the usual starter players in the roster (Original players can obviously be bought).

And finally about this "Small town in Yorkshire" business. I'll admit that you really are not a part of Yorkshire, just as Newcastle is not a small suburb of Gateshead. However you might want to know that although officially and Geographically you are not a part of Yorkshire, the largest map ever made in Britain was found in storage recently which showed Middlesbough in the 17th century. The map was made on behalf of a wealthy Yorkshire man who owned the land as part of his estate. Over the years it would become the town of Middlesbough that exists today. So really you’re not a small town in Yorkshire at all!

You’re really a small ESTATE in Yorkshire!!! :D

PS. Before you use the argument "WOW it took you a whole day just to write all that", just keep in mind that I do not spend all of my free time on the net looking at the message board an I have only just come across it over my break.

I thank you all ladies and gentlemen,

Good day!!!

bravo! round of applause...pick your fingers up...
you've never beat us convincenly have you now?
last year at home daft penna... which was lucky to come back...
at at ur place ricard's goal ... was a goal it blatenly was...
about three years previous knocked you out of the league cup with our nerds out,
walapped you'se at ur place was it 2-1?emerson scored at beut. and then 3-0 at home
went up...
to further they weren't from man utd the were mostly from derby...
macann is rubbish everyone at the spain friendly said who the **** is he???
the other person had to reply some nerd from sunderland...
and ill hold me hand up deane is ****, so to ince and mustoe... but im pretty confident we will murder use this year or you will spawn draw...
and whose starting to buzz about the league positions ... total tool...
like saying orrr yeah bolton are top... there gunna win it... shut up until about 10 games and if we are not above 14th then ill hold me hand up and say that sunderland are better than us...
plus id thrash you on iss pro evo 2...