After watching the match between Man U and Leeds, I realized that the premier Ref's standard is worsening.
First, Dermot Gallagher failed to send off Robbie Keane after pushing David Beckham to kiss the pitch.
Second, Viduka was offside before he scored the leading goal. The video replay showed it all. All the commentors from ESPN agreed that Viduka was offisde.
Now Dermot Gallagher will face suspension from Premier League, and I think it is what he deserved.

It's lack of consistency, but the offside decision is more down to the linesman.

yeah right !!!! i can't beleive this.....

just bcoz its ****in moviestar beckham, they are taking the matter this seriously.....what the hell is happening to football

Originally posted by IceBlu
yeah right !!!! i can't beleive this.....

just bcoz its ****in moviestar beckham, they are taking the matter this seriously.....what the hell is happening to football

Couldn't agree more !!!!
Keano should never have been sent off
coz it's a natural reaction after such a tackle
a typical bex tackle, who then falls to the ground like the wimp he is.

well, some players are being sent off for leaser thing... it is time that the EPL bring more consistency to their refering...

Hehehe... Beckham eat grass... Like a whore... oops, I mean horse...

what keane did wasnt that bad , he jsut pushed beckham. its not like he was gonna injure beckham or anything

compare that to le saux's tackle on danny mills the other week, where mills couldve got seriously ****ed up,, like if he took the tackle in the knee or sumthing.

both cases i agree that the player shoulda got a red, but the keane incident was pretty harmless, more dissent that anything , whereas lesaux couldve injured mills and those types of incidents should be taken more seriously, no?? refs should be looking after the safety of the players not beck's ego.

i cant beleive the ref is being demoted over this , its a joke.

i hate leeds and i hate man u , so dont think im all biased over this, i reckon everyone needs to reassess what the ref is out there for.

Well I agree both incidents deserved a red, but demoting a ref is a little unfair. He is a human,he makes mistakes like we all do. Dermot Gallagher called it the way he saw it and even though he was wrong,demoting him wasn't thje answer.

It's in the rules though, you raise your hands, then it's punishible by red card!

well that's where common sense comes in ...
sometimes you have to understand how players feel.
And some reaction are just about normal for any human being.

this is not the first time something like this has happened..

i've never heard of a ref being demoted !!
Looks they are gonna think about a Ref Premier league ! where 3 Refs get Relegated every year....

i've seen so many bad decisions....worse than this....nothing happened , except that everyone was talking about it for a few days....this sux.....

I agree he should have given the red, and keane be given a suspension, but to blame the referee? nah i don't think they should have done that...

Keane should have been sent off, but not Dermot relegated. Every referee can make a mistake, Gallager made a big one, but not so big to be relegated, well maybe, now english referees will watch the match much better. Still can't forget the match, last season, when Arsenal played with someone in the EPL and received 2 red cards from both teams and about 10 yellow cards in total!

Dermot shouldn't have been relegated
and even more so coz he didn't make any mistake !!!
his decision was 100 % right
epl were overprotective becoz it was db
look at last week that tackle by Lesaux.......

apparently both ref were being relegated to nation wide league for not sending off both lesaux and keane... it is strange indeed to punish the ref instead of the players... what should been done now is to suspend both players for like 3 matches rather than relegated the ref...

I totally agree with you, Amika.

The FA should punish the players and not demote the referee. Now, referee will be more afraid to give close-decision, and may be they may be stricter when giving decision which could spoil the flow of a whole game. May see a lot of cards flashing out from the referee's pocket.

No-way should he have been demoted. It was a great decision that keeped the match flowing. Maybe beckham should of got sent of for the tackle from behind?

Yeah... It's a very late, late tackle...

But, as usual, he didn't even got a card... I think

Bex would have (should have) gotten a card but after the push down the tackle was whipped out of the ref's mind so he handle the push down situation. A lot of players on the Leeds team have tempers tho. Mills especially. So they better cool it if they want to go anywhere. If you want to get anywhere you have to act professional, that's why Bex knew he was doomed after the late challenge but after the push down he knew he got away with it. If the guy just got up and looked at the ref, Bex would have been booked no doubt. I've seen reds for that kind of challenge.

Originally posted by haha
No-way should he have been demoted. It was a great decision that keeped the match flowing. Maybe beckham should of got sent of for the tackle from behind?

and maybe Bex should have been demoted !!! and transfered to PLymouth Argyle !!!!

Beckham was given the yellow card which was the right decision because it was maybe a late tackle but it wasn't that bad...But keane should have been given the red, he knows the rules of the game and he knows that he can't do justice himself, the referee is there for that, so he made a move that can't be forgiven...it's the same thing when becks received the re card in the world cup against argentina, it was stupid and he deserved his red card, and that was not as much violent as keane move....


But about the referee, everyone agrees that he shouldn't be relegated, maybe blamed....but not relegated, he's a human and all humans make mistakes, why don't they relegate linesmen when they disallow goals of players that were on side then???

But a tackle from behind is now a sending off offense isn't it?

if the referees would have given a red card each time there is a tackle from behind...there would be at least 2 red cards per match

FIFA introduce new rules every year. And i thought a cpouple of years ago, that that rule was brought in........

their rules are never well applied anyway

Yeah, i miss the rule where you can throw the ball from a throw-on to your keeper, and he can pick it up. Back in the day.........

buah this one is not very important :rolleyes:

i would like to change the penalty kicks to one-on-ones :D

Like in Ice Hockey?

I have heard that being talked about, but nothing ever came of it.

yeah like in ice hockey, they did this in some tournaments and it was great i think

I don't think that the relegation and promotion system among refs would work though. The already have enough pressure as it is, it wouldn't be fair to put that much pressure on them.

A great rule would be a red card when some stupid defender pulls ths shirt of the attacker during a set piece, there won't be any after that :p

What about when the attacker pulls the shirt of a defender during a set peice?