I played nhl2002 at my freinds house today, and it is so much better than fifa 2002, u should see the detail its amainzg.

How can you compare two different sport games?

And if you look into reactions to diehard NHL fans they say "NHL 2002 is way too Arcade in style and gameplay".

and why can't you compare both? i bet the underlying game engine is the same.

I had NHL 2002 and i got bored with it. It's true that it has little to do with ice hockey... soon it's just as boring an up and down the pitch as FIFA 2002 is... no surprises, no glitches, nothing that would make you go like: "wow, i can't believe that just happened"...

that said: the cut scenes and the motion captures are amazing and about 20 times more realistic than FIFA... plus, the players look like actual human beings, and not like trolls with wigs.... the player animation itself is fluid and realistic... and the best feature is: you can customize almost any aspect of the gameplay, including the behavior of the puck... how much would FIFA 2002 profit if i could just change the ball physics (sigh).... there should be more exchange between different departments at EA... but i bet (as is the case in any large company) they all hate each other....

OK here's my opinion of FIFA and NHL in reference to alcohol.

FIFA is like a fine wine, its gets better with age.

NHL is like a beer, gets flat after a while.

Errr how can you compare a football and a hockey game? I don't understand the point...

Easy, sometimes when you play FIFA it feels like you are playing hockey, with the pace and ping-pong and all.

Soccer (Football) is a beautiful game, Hockey is a physical game.

I view soccer as more of a work of art than a sport. Hockey seems alot more competitive, and sporting-like.

jusy my own opinion. I love both sports and both games thuogh. (FIFA and NHL)

Originally posted by ZePenguin
Errr how can you compare a football and a hockey game? I don't understand the point...

He was being sarcastic. It maybe football but it's still has a hockey gameplay engine especially on WC mode.

they are totally different engines, you cant even compare the two

Originally posted by V-9


He was being sarcastic. It maybe football but it's still has a hockey gameplay engine especially on WC mode.

humm i understand better now why it was made by canadians :D :p

eram yea....even Quake Arena is better than Fifa :D

why 'even' ? or you mean by its physics realism? :D

Originally posted by Joe
How can you compare two different sport games?

And if you look into reactions to diehard NHL fans they say "NHL 2002 is way too Arcade in style and gameplay".

Yes, but this is relative, the NHL 2002 depiction of the sport of ice hockey a lot more realistic when compared to the Fifa 2002 depiction of soccer. In terms of arcade-style, stuff like the NHL cards can be completely turned off, and the game is simply a minor upgrade to last year's version.

Some of the features in NHL 2002;

i)Gameplay Sliders - we have to fiddle around with the aimain, NHL fans can adjust everything from hit recovery speed to puck elasticity from WITHIN the game, and of course save several different settings (while we can't even save our exact camera angle settings without getting a patch).

ii)Much better graphics - just take a look at the screenshots, look at the player models, the faces, the crowds - everything is of a much higher quality than Fifa.

iii)Decent franchise mode - players retire, young players can be drafted, you can sign free-agents, there is CPU-initiated trading, drafts at the beggining of each season, and career statistics tracked.

iv)Face importing feature.

v)Better crowds awareness - if you're losing at home near the end of the game they get quiet and even begin to jeer (boo).

vi)NHL Cards - they work like Madden cards; you play your game like normal, but unbeknownst to you as you complete certain tasks within the game (ie score a shorthanded goal) you are given points and at the end of the game when you exit you can tally up the points to buy NHL Cards which can be collected and this also unlocks certain features. It's more in-depth than the rewards section in Fifa 2002, and of course you can have multiple NHL Card profiles for multiple users.

There are probably more I am forgetting but my point is that while we can argue about Fifa's gameplay, one of the biggest purported bonuses of the Fifa series is it's FEATURES and PRESENTATION (such as it's graphics) - but then when you look at other EA Sports' games Fifa is right at the bottom of it's roster of games in terms of features and presentation. Triple Play is utter ****e but it has (slightly) more features than Fifa 2002, while Madden and NHL are in another realm all together.

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"vi)NHL Cards - they work like Madden cards; you play your game like normal, but unbeknownst to you as you complete certain tasks within the game (ie score a shorthanded goal) you are given points and at the end of the game when you exit you can tally up the points to buy NHL Cards which can be collected and this also unlocks certain features. It's more in-depth than the rewards section in Fifa 2002, and of course you can have multiple NHL Card profiles for multiple users. "


Yes, doesn't that make it like an arcade game? More points = more reward? Not Enough Points - Insert Coin? I mean, most of the NHL 2001 players aren't making the jump from NHL 2001 to NHL 2002. I am one of them.

It should be obvious that a small 30 team (plus some international) would be better. I mean, it's only 30 teams you have to make logos for, chants (if it was soccer), sound bytes, etc, etc. It makes it much easier for the NHL team to make it better and contain more features than FIFA 2002.

LAVAN!!! Blimey, it's been a while. What's up mate?

Send me an email. Or I'll send you one. You ever on MSN messenger anymore?

I'm just busy with school, the same old crap. Sacca season is over :( Life's pretty quiet really.

SIMON!!!!!!!!!!! SUP!!?!!?! I will write you in a few.

Originally posted by Joe

Yes, doesn't that make it like an arcade game? More points = more reward? Not Enough Points - Insert Coin?

WTF are you talking about? Insert coin? NHL Cards, like Madden Cards, have no bearing upon the actual outcome of games/matches, you can ignore them completely if you want, and if not they're a nice aside to have to add a bit more depth. It has nothing to do with the game you're playing.

Originally posted by Joe
It should be obvious that a small 30 team (plus some international) would be better. I mean, it's only 30 teams you have to make logos for, chants (if it was soccer), sound bytes, etc, etc. It makes it much easier for the NHL team to make it better and contain more features than FIFA 2002.

Hmm, SI seem to do fine making Championship Manager with god knows how many teams and they have accurate rosters with thousands more players and they have to get around 40 statistics for each player. Did I mention they're a much smaller company than EA Sports? And don't forget Fifa nets EA Sports millions a year - it's their top selling game around the world, you'd think they could put the effort into getting only 16 leagues right. Hell, they got the international teams for RTWC98 right 4 years ago, now they have more money they can't be bothered.

And don't make me have to whip out NCAA 2002 for the PS2 with more than 100 different college teams, an amazing dynasty mode, the ability to transfer draft entering players into your Madden 2002 draft roster etc.

And besides, the 30+ teams NHL 2002 still doesn't make up for the piss poor graphics, and stadium selection. 5 stadiums? Madden 2002 has more than 30.

I didn't particularly love NHL 2002 (it was too similar to last year's version) but it still has much, much, more options than Fifa. Fifa gamers are living in the dark ages when you look the options we get compared to those Madden and NHL gamers get.

EDIT: And about the chants and kits - it's not like EA Sports even TRIED with Fifa 2002 - most of the kits are the same as last year, as are the chants, I love hearing 'England England' during France vs. Nigeria. That's a great touch.

Originally posted by Joe
I mean, most of the NHL 2001 players aren't making the jump from NHL 2001 to NHL 2002. I am one of them.

I played the NHL 2002 demo, and I HATED it! It was terrible, give me NHL 2001 anyday. Can;t say the same for FIFA 2002, thank god. :)

Originally posted by Gareth


I played the NHL 2002 demo, and I HATED it! It was terrible, give me NHL 2001 anyday. Can;t say the same for FIFA 2002, thank god. :)

Go to the Thunderpuck forums, while most there are still disgruntled at EA Sports most will also tell you that NHL 2002 was better than 2001 because of the more fluid skating model, more goals from the blue-line by big shooters, and less floater goals. They also added the manual deke, and better puck handling characteristics. Read reviews of NHL 2002 (from big and small sites) almost all will agree that 2002 is better than last year's version on both the PC, and especially on the PS2.

FYI: You can also turn off that annoying breakaway cam.

Ah, I see the Super Computer Techno Whizz, aka THE THREAD TERMINATOR is hard at work again.

Hey I read an article in the paper about people they have in communist China that read people's postings on messageboards (before they are actually posted for everyone else to see) and edit or delete them as they see fit - basically to remove any anti-communist or anti-Chinese government rhetoric. Or any sexual innuendo.

I think you'd be perfect for such a job.

Originally posted by simonius
Life's pretty quiet really.

No pimping anymore!?:eek: :D

Originally posted by Neutral LFC


Go to the Thunderpuck forums, while most there are still disgruntled at EA Sports most will also tell you that NHL 2002 was better than 2001 because of the more fluid skating model, more goals from the blue-line by big shooters, and less floater goals. They also added the manual deke, and better puck handling characteristics. Read reviews of NHL 2002 (from big and small sites) almost all will agree that 2002 is better than last year's version on both the PC, and especially on the PS2.

FYI: You can also turn off that annoying breakaway cam.

I have been to NHL Depot Forums, most veteran Hockey Fans and Gamers HATE 2002. The commentary, terrible. Crowd animation, terrible (appart from the 3d cut scenes). Movement, crappy.

I have read many reviews, and most say if you liked 2001 you;ll be disappointed with 2002, and if you haven;t been exposed to 2001, then you;ll love 2002. But its not a hockey simulation, an arcade yes, but not simulation.

I still prefer NHL2001 over NHL2002...
Those "ding"-sounds and that other crap really makes it feel more like your in a casino than in a hockey rink...
But NHL2002 is more quality than FIFA2002 anyday...

Originally posted by The FIFA RTWC Webmaster
But NHL2002 is more quality than FIFA2002 anyday...

yes definately

you can compare both games, they are both sports. Nhl 2002 is alot more fun than Fifa 2002. thats how you measure it, the fun factor.