EA Sports have let me know they'll be releasing a patch for FIFA 2002 soon.

They say it will include some formation fixes and some fixes for online multiplayer mode.

Perhaps if we kick and shout enough they'll include some more changes in the patch. So post here what you think should be included. Remember, this is JUST a patch so nothing big can be changed, it can only be small things that are easily fixed.

The shooting and ball physics. Imo the most imp changes that should be incliuded in the patch. The default sucks.

we want custom tournament with more than 2 human players..
also fix the mess in the lineup...
also the mess in the lineup with modem play
also to give the option to make offside trap and pressure
to bring back the ingame tactics...the igm
the gameplay is fine...small bugs but it is ok..the major things are the ones i said before..
can they do this??:(

man, did you asked if there are any cheats???
or the World Cup so we can play with it?
also some other fiels that came with the CD (like the boca juniors badge etc...).

And also they should include a fix for the rosters, because you can only modify so many teams, and then nothing, also a fix that when you modify a team the faces don't get locked up, and the last thing they should fix or make a way to play more than one team on a season or on a custom cup as we played before in Fifa 2001.
enough say :P

Fix the linesmen they are on the wrong side and refs have to give more cards.

Originally posted by psp
Fix the linesmen they are on the wrong side and refs have to give more cards.
you want more cards???
on the ini.big change this:
//There are three setting for ref Strictness
// 0 = normal
// 1 = DEBUG EASY (no carding)
// 2 = DEBUG STRICT

REFEREE_STRICTNESS = 0
to this:
//There are three setting for ref Strictness
// 0 = normal
// 1 = DEBUG EASY (no carding)
// 2 = DEBUG STRICT

REFEREE_STRICTNESS = 2
enjoy :), as for the linesmen, on some countries they play like that...

how about controller issues?

Originally posted by Matt Holme
EA Sports have let me know they'll be releasing a patch for FIFA 2002 soon.

They say it will include some formation fixes and some fixes for online multiplayer mode.

Perhaps if we kick and shout enough they'll include some more changes in the patch. So post here what you think should be included. Remember, this is JUST a patch so nothing big can be changed, it can only be small things that are easily fixed.
We definatelly have to be able to change the tacticts inside a game... offside trap and pressure have to be there too...

I have 2 gamepads.......one gameport and one usb, and when i try to set them in the options menu, when i press one button in one gamepad, it changes config. in both........really nasty......i like to play with (or against) friends....

another thing that i would like to see is a far zoom........i like to play seeing ALL the field...or at least, 75%......to make LONG PASSES....

iam going to try that if you get more yellow cards

shootout bug.

definetly the Ball Physics, formations & why o why EA does the cpu hardly Ever foul your players?

If they resolve even half the gameplay issues I'll be suprised

Just shouting in case EA drops by and decide to make me and a tons of other guys´day :)

Unchangeable Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad Pro controls!!!

If you change the controls in options, the controls will still be the default in-game.

I say, they should include everything that they are doing right now, cause that's great :D, but they should also include an ini.big file with updated ball pyshics and they should also make the shooting slower, harder, more realistic!

Cheers,

Nick Clubman

give us back:


-INGAME TACTICS
-OFFSIDE TRAP and DEFENSE PRESSURE
(which seemed to be in ini.big, but cant be enabled!)


-fix the bug of loosin playernames in commentary after changing haircuts or somethingelse


-fix the bug of limited payerediting ! (FIFA02 is too small !)


-fix the collision-bug of too big goal-posts (I hit them 100 times a match )


-fix castanet_unexpected_EOF-error when tryin to make the online-update (on DSL-Cable,even when my Firewall is disabled!)


-ever heard about passive offside ?


-there is still NO audio-difference between home and away-team as you promised (and advertised) EA ! just assign half of the 2gogen**.str-files for home and other half to away-team-goals


-please upload all language commentaries so I can choose the one I like (I know these are big files)



I know you wont fix even one of this bugs, but maybe you remember when releasing Fifa 2010 !

-fix the collision-bug of too big goal-posts (I hit them 100 times a match )

hitting the post to much?? maybe your ****

Just fix the crappy bug in programming, like the creation center bug where players disappear from created teams, the messed up formations when wingers are employed, & also the goal kick throw in bugs!!! Once, the computer should get a throw-in when i kicked the ball out of play, but the camera view moved all thw way down the pitch & i got a goal kick!!!! Also, make the AI make mistake in passing,as there is no way we could imitate such immaculate passing done by the AI & it therefore seems unfair!!

Yeah and they rarely mis-time their tackles.

GIVE SALAS AT LEAST A PLACE IN THE BENCH OF JUVENTUS!!!

IGM & the strange things with players after the change of tactics.

[SIZE=4] BRING BACK MUTLIPLAYER FOR MORE THAN ONE USER SELECTED TEAM !!!

messus

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE ICEHOCKEY!!!! THE PLAYERS SHOULD QUIT 'SKATING' OVER THE PITCH. INSTEAD THEY SHOULD WALK!!!!

Fix the bug allowing people to write caps only in the fifa 2002 forums :) hehehehe

Let them make all the teams licenced! So that we (the kit makers) can easy make the damn badge on the kit!!!!!!!

Finish the teams! Bosnia alone is missing 4 players!!!!!!!!
It's not a good feeling to se No18 to scoore ! Who is he?

thanks

Pls tell EA to fix the following:
1) Offside cheat bug: Computers players are always offsides and went unpunished. This is very irritating!
2) Positioning bug: Players are always standing in silly position as if inviting to get offside.
3) Management mess
4) Long ball tactics: As I said in an earlier post, the only tactics the computer uses is long ball + offside cheat. Can they pass the ball better?
5) Team management quota: why is there a quota in the number of team formation to be edited?
6) Shootout bug
7) Can they also tell us clearly what is the diff between assisted crossing or normal crossing. In any case, both crossing makes little sense.
8) Ball projectile physics

Most importantly, fix this one :
Players when chasing for a free ball with the CPU player won't respond properly to keyboard input, SOmetimes he'll just walk on the spot when I press the arrow keys with all my might. Cut off this crap, pleeeease

EA must also fix corner kicks...it's almost impossible to have a chance to touch the ball before computer palyers. That makes me very nervous every time computer gets a corner, because In real game it's difficult to score on corner kicks.
Hope EA release the patch soon, or make everyone able to patch the game explaining the meaning of the ini.big file
Have fun

When a CPU passes a long ball to player he head the the ball a meter past you(human) and run after it and score a goal!!!
:crazyboy:







Del Piero r00lz






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most important of all if ea wnats to get me back to playing this game is fix the gameplay!!!make the ball more realistic the ball floats too much make the shooting better!!make it like iss or virtua striker ohh so many things i doubt ea will fix everything we assk for i doubt theyl fix by time fifa 2003 hits shelves

How about minimal movment from the crowd (as well as a consistent lowered "cacaphonous hum" from them), until something significant HAPPENS, like a goal, or a struck post, or the like...then an exp[losion of noise and movement, not unlike the movement they are perpetually in now...

That is the #1 thing, for me, that prevents suspension of disbelief; the poor crowwd dynamics... crowds don;t act like that, and for most FIFA 2002 players, crowd dynamics are that aspect of football matches that we are most familiar with, the aspect of which we have been a part...thus, please patch that EA, and give us realistic crowd behavior.

4Thought

GIVE THE CROWD SMOKE BOMBS AND FLARES FOR ADDED ENVIRONMENT.

ALSO, WHAT HAPPEN TO CROWD DIFF FOR HOME AND AWAY!!!!

tell them to put on some links to their training files, and to the cheats files (see the other forum for my big essay on this, and please reply to it!!)

I think the main thing EA Sports should fix in their patch is without a doupt to allow Multi User teams, meaning beeing able to play tournaments with AT LEAST 2 user teams.
That and what Matt wrote they were going to fix in the first place obviously.

Not allowing us to play those endless tournaments with friends is the biggest screw up, it's time they fixed it.
Ball physics, the crowd, etc..., would be nice, but is by far not as important.

I totally agree with you Rob. Every thing else would be really nice to have, but not being allowed to compete with more than one time is THE biggest screw up....

EVERYTHING, lets upgrade to 2003!

How about a patch that automatically refunds you? :D

Well, if that is not possible, I would settle for the following:

Make custom teams available in on-line multiplayer games. I want to play with my own teams and players, or the corrected ones in the existing teams. Not the ones EA shipped with the game! Well, I asked before, but I think there is no way to fix it from within the game as I saw no replies for that question (Swell, they are gone too)

By the way, more than one human player should be able to play a tournement or cup.

Is it possible to seperate the cards you get in the league and the european cups? When I'm now getting a red card in the league my player is suspended for the next match and that could be a european match.

That the AI make subs when his players are tired and not only with injured players.

And bring back the training menu, it is in the directory of Fifa. Same like the world cup.

Ea should fix 1-2 passes, which does the computer automatic during the game without me even touching one button when I'm playing with my gamepad (Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power). Playing with keyboard it's no problem, but with the gamepad it is ****e.

Ea should give more teams to us.

Please, give us possibility to manage more than one team in the tournaments. Thank you.

Originally posted by gianpan
Ea should give more teams to us.

they try and put it as many kits as possible i

and if they did put more it which they wont they wont be licensed teams

Please allow the ball to be curved using an MS Sidewinder Precision Pro joystick!

I know it appears as a Gamepad when used, but even then it forgets any new settings you assign!

If I can curve a ball beautifully in something as primitive as Total Soccer and SWOS (still wonderful games), why not the supposedly more advanced Fifa2002?

If you have been, thanks for listening.

Without a doubt the most important things are.

1. THe formation should be fixed.

2. MULTI-USER TEAMS IN ALL TOURNAMENTS. (every tournament, not just custom buiolt tournaments. All including season and world cup)



who thinks there is a more important thing to fix than these two?

well i know ho wyou all feel, but I still think the tow most important things are the multi-user teams and the formations... also maybe they should really sort (multiplayer problems out)


IGMs and off side traps, two on 1 defending and set pieces movement, is the next in line for sure.

BUt all the othere gameplay issues, most of those can be played around with in the ini.big files, and some of the other requests require a new game, thats for sure.


BUT I MUST STRESS, MULTI-USER TEAMS IN ALL TOURNAMENTS, its important EA don't get the impression, taht they should only include this feature simply in custom tournaments only.

Originally posted by Mace II
Without a doubt the most important things are.

1. THe formation should be fixed.

2. MULTI-USER TEAMS IN ALL TOURNAMENTS. (every tournament, not just custom buiolt tournaments. All including season and world cup)



who thinks there is a more important thing to fix than these two?

i think that is what is going to be in the patch it wont be new teams or anything like that becasue they couldn't update the PS2 version and the people who brought it on the ps2 would be upset

Please! DO NOT change the shooting. It's really awesome that you can score a goal from the half line.

You lied to us! You told there will be difference between playing away or home. No difference at all!

Add some more skill moves.

What's up with the ball physics?? The ball goes up to the sky almost every time it's blocked. And then it fells like rock!

One more thing. The patch better be free!

Vincent
Ea should fix 1-2 passes, which does the computer automatic during the game without me even touching one button when I'm playing with my gamepad (Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power). Playing with keyboard it's no problem, but with the gamepad it is ****e.

Whats your prob vincent? I don't think this is a bug at all, I have the same controller and it works fine, I think, it may have something to do with your files, PM me for more.


Ove Kindvall
That the AI make subs when his players are tired and not only with injured players.

Hey, thats not a bug to be fixed either man, because the FIFA assistant does do that when the players are fatigues (less than 60 actually) and you can exit the ini.big file and change fatigue ratios, so I don't think its a bug or something they need to fix cause its already there.

A compromise would be if they could make substitutions faster by allowing you just to punch in the players number say to make a sub, hold down shift, type two digit number 07 then 14 and 017 comes off and 14 on at the next break.

They could even go one step furhter, for the IGMs, and allow you to alter the starting line-up for each IGM, remeber in FIFA 2k1, with the IGM you could change, but the CPU arranged the players for you and often you would have to go to the menu anyway, to get the forward forward etc, but with programming your starting lineup for each IGM, you could have that pre done for you.

You lied to us! You told there will be difference between playing away or home. No difference at all!

Are you talking about a difference in terms of hwo the teams play? or in chants and crowds? About play, there is a difference mate, a slight one but its there, look at the ini.big file, and there is a debug setting ofr home and away teams (you can see that the passing on the home team is better) this repr. a magnification factor, b/c although the actual rating of the teams aren't 3, unless during debug default, the algorithm, multiplies the overall passing ability at home, and hafter having played quite a few games, there is a difference, but as in real life it doesn't always show, and sometimes you don't notice it...btw the you can change the difference, emphasize it if you like but, you can change, and they did keep the promise. For crowds and chants, they did do the same, although still not as varied as it should, you see the cheering is different and more accurate whether you are home or away, the chants though need more files, and could do with improvement, but still not as big an issue as the formations mess-up and lack of multi-user teams in allt ournaments.

MAKE THE GAME LESS ****


This seems to be an admission by EA that they decided to release the game before it was finished....they probably never even tested it. Bye bye forever EA, you'll never see the colour of my money again

You lied to us! You told there will be difference between playing away or home. No difference at all! Are you talking about a difference in terms of hwo the teams play? or in chants and crowds? About play, there is a difference mate, a slight one but its there, look at the ini.big file, and there is a debug setting ofr home and away teams (you can see that the passing on the home team is better) this repr. a magnification factor, b/c although the actual rating of the teams aren't 3, unless during debug default, the algorithm, multiplies the overall passing ability at home, and hafter having played quite a few games, there is a difference, but as in real life it doesn't always show, and sometimes you don't notice it...btw the you can change the difference, emphasize it if you like but, you can change, and they did keep the promise. For crowds and chants, they did do the same, although still not as varied as it should, you see the cheering is different and more accurate whether you are home or away, the chants though need more files, and could do with improvement, but still not as big an issue as the formations mess-up and lack of multi-user teams in all tournaments.
What's up with the ball physics?? The ball goes up to the sky almost every time it's blocked. And then it fells like rock!
Again, you can change this man in the ini.big file, we don't need a patch for that, many people have released some great gameplay patches in previous posts (that were deleted) but fortunately, there are some patches available where uses have altered this ini.big filre o fix precise problems like that. You can alter it yourself or download their pathces. their is one in fifastyle.com I think, and another in soccered.com not entirelly, sure, but PM me and I could find out for you.

- Give us back the training mode.

- Make all teams available for Edit/Play. (1.div teams are hidden)

- Get the IGM back

- Let Smicer play for Liverpool. (pleeeease...)

- Fifa Assistant, Passing Ass., what do they do? I can't tell the difference if they're off or on.


For starters...

Improve Everything in the game !

Change "SHUTOUT" to "CLEANSHEET"

Referees on the other sides please

Make skill moves more easily accessible and consistent

Improved player faces and commentary

:mad: :mad:

MORE YELLOW CARDS! I have got only one yellow card, and one red card all these days! And when I also change the ini.big file, the game wont run...

who gives a **** about a patch, according to some people's previous posts who've posted in this thread fifa2002 is total bollox:> and a game they don't play.

Why should you care about a patch?

There has to be the option to chosse more than one team a a players team...

This is where the only RE-PLAYABILITY is. playing custom tournaments and playing a several teams... This way you get to use more teams and play out a more exciting game...

But PLEASE PLEASE, make us be able to select all 32, not just the plain old 8 teams... As in a tournament in each game you decide on team preference... Include this as well as fixing the blatently obvious bugs and i will love you guys for it... And buy your games for years to come....;) :D

CHEERS!!!

FIX the IGM

FIX the rosters

FIX the keyboard input - often I cannot play a shot going to the right of the pitch and forward when I play right to left of screen in Tower view - really ****s you off!

FIX the formation problem - I wanna play 5-3-2 with a sweeper and wingbacks without bloody Fowler and Owen at wingback!

FIX the issue of no CAF and OCF in the World Cup qualification process ... the files are there, but it seems EA either didn't finish those files, or forgot to link them all together into the EXE!!!

All that plus others I have forgotten above should be FIXED!

Cheers

AJ

I think that this patch must put more south american leagues, not only brazil.
The argentinian and colombian leagues are really good.
And uruguay has good teems too

make the patch include a refund ;) ;)

Originally posted by TheGuy
make the patch include a refund ;) ;)
Haha...this will be good :D

Originally posted by bositman
MORE YELLOW CARDS! I have got only one yellow card, and one red card all these days! And when I also change the ini.big file, the game wont run...

you have to use the Hex workshop to change the ini. If you like i can send you my ini to you to test. The players get tired faster, no offside cheat by the CPU, more chance to get Injured. and yes you get your yellow card when you make a foul. Send me your mail. BTW, if anyone want to test my ini...just ask for it.




Its possible to EA to give us the "hot Sheet" that they promise??
or at least le us know how is gonna be out the injured player?

we want Africa

we want custom tournament with more than 2 human players..

I want ALL Seasons/Tournaments with more than 1 human player! and the ability to go over 2 leagues...

ie. Me = Inter... Mate = Chelsea

we want Africa

I want Africa AND Oceania!!!

ALL Nations... not just Australia and NZ

I also want a World Cup after i qualify!!!

Where i can find this patch ???:confused:

Originally posted by Matt Holme
EA Sports have let me know they'll be releasing a patch for FIFA 2002 soon.

They say it will include some formation fixes and some fixes for online multiplayer mode.

Perhaps if we kick and shout enough they'll include some more changes in the patch. So post here what you think should be included. Remember, this is JUST a patch so nothing big can be changed, it can only be small things that are easily fixed.

Why would you want to change anything about this game...you gave it a 92% in your review. It's funny how many people vote "excellente" on the poll at FIFA 2002.com, but when you come to the FIFA 2002 forum, its a totally different song...

Hey can you give me that Ini file? bosit_22@hotmail.com

These are my "must" changes if EA are out there listening:

1. Why give us the Creation Centre if using it for (eg) player editing causes the commentry of the players' names to disappear? Please fix this,

2. Fix the formations. This is a major bug.

3. Crowd noise should differ depending on whether home or away side scores.

4. Give us a ditty importer so we can get rid of the techno tunes.

Originally posted by johnf
4. Give us a ditty importer so we can get rid of the techno tunes. The Ministry of Sound tracks aren't bad :D

The most important thing is to enable choosing two teams in a season or in a custom tournament.
Then once that is done, to enable having a custom tournament in multiplayer mode.
If you cannot have a season with a friend where each one picks his favorite team, the game is totally useless.

All requests for the patch have been listed out by the above Fifa gamers. My basic concern is how the patch will be released. On a CD or thru' downloading from the official website. How big will be the file?

As for the ISS supporters, I believe you should just save your breath to 'convert' the fifa fans to iss fans. As I have mentioned before, all this is very subjective. For discussion sake, can you force someone to like the same girl. No! So beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. This apply everywhere.

For your information, I reiterated I play both ISS and Fifa and I still prefer Fifa. And don't dare anyone say I don't know football. I have seen the offside rules change three times over the years.

i agree with you

bertkamp16

first most of of the ppl that say "i love fifa, best football game ever" are dying and are exited to the updated. wtf if it is so good you don´t need a ****ing update.

second you guys look like 11 years asking for momy to buy some new toy. "fix this fix that " like ea reades this foruns and even so they don´t care. like one guy said over there expect those things you ask in fifa2010.


WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by soccerfan
All requests for the patch have been listed out by the above Fifa gamers. My basic concern is how the patch will be released. On a CD or thru' downloading from the official website. How big will be the file?

As for the ISS supporters, I believe you should just save your breath to 'convert' the fifa fans to iss fans. As I have mentioned before, all this is very subjective. For discussion sake, can you force someone to like the same girl. No! So beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. This apply everywhere.

For your information, I reiterated I play both ISS and Fifa and I still prefer Fifa. And don't dare anyone say I don't know football. I have seen the offside rules change three times over the years.

1) Its likely to be a download file, or on a CD on magazines. Going on past exeprience id say 5MB minimum.

2) I don't know what your bug is mate but in this whole thread there is only one mention of ISS, and that was about how the ball physics should be like those of ISS. Most ISS players couldn't give a monkeys about converting you, we're too busy playing PE2 or PES. In this forum I rarely see any mention of ISS anymore, Im not saying there arent any but they are much rarer..

3) No-ones arguing with you... If you want a fight got to the ISSvs FIFA forum mate..

They Can FIX as much as they want!!

But, as long as they don't fix the multiplayer-
tournament mode screwup, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS !!

BRING BACK MULTIPLAYER MODE WITH MORE THAN
1 USER SELECTED TEAM AS IN ALL PREVIOUS FIFA
RELEASES !!! AND DO THIS FOR ALL TOURNAMENT
AND SEASON MODES !!! NOT JUST CUSTOM !!

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS THIS MUCH !!!

messus

I cant even start it up so i hopethat the fix that
I wan't to -play it

Originally posted by soccerfan
All requests for the patch have been listed out by the above Fifa gamers. My basic concern is how the patch will be released. On a CD or thru' downloading from the official website. How big will be the file?

As for the ISS supporters, I believe you should just save your breath to 'convert' the fifa fans to iss fans. As I have mentioned before, all this is very subjective. For discussion sake, can you force someone to like the same girl. No! So beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. This apply everywhere.

For your information, I reiterated I play both ISS and Fifa and I still prefer Fifa. And don't dare anyone say I don't know football. I have seen the offside rules change three times over the years.

What does watching the offsides rule change have to do with knowing football? I've seen them change rules in gridiron football "over the years" and I still don't know **** about gridiron football. You sound a little pretentious if you ask me. I think most of my colleagues at the ISS forum would agree with me when I say that chances are you don't play ISS, you just say you do to try to prove a point.

Ea must fix the line-up the tournaments multiplayer and put more teams put all the teams in champions league more kits adn more stadiums and fix many bugs,that makes the game for you better and if the create any editor like fed and ea graphic editor it will be very good.But for these who can't download it! Ea must have all these in fifa 2002 cd.I think ea will said us to wait for 2003 and they will fix only some bugs.


C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\my fifa pcgames2126.jpg

I don't really care about multiplayer; I have three concerns...

(1) Crowd dynamics...the crowd is fake and doesn't act like a real football crowd; they need to be realtively chill then EXPLODE when a goal is scored, or get real quiet (except for some remote corner of away fans) when the away team scores...

(2) Africa / CAF... Ghana's Hearts of Oak can make it to the (aborted) Club World Championship, but not onto FIFA 2002? Give us African club AND national teams, PLEASE! This is a world game, not a European (or god forbid an MLS-focused) one...

(3) I DO want to be able to control more than one team at a time in ALL tournament modes! ALL!

Thanks for listening.

Go PSG! Whip Rangers!

I thought the referees were running a reverse diagnol, the sun being in their eyes or something.

when is this update going to be coming out then?????

Imagine that, talking about a patch for a game that was released less than a month ago...tsk tsk tsk. I guess this is the back up parachute that EA is whipping out, lets hope it was packed correctly :rolleyes:

roster update.

Make the game compatible with more graph. cards....cause me, and The Crippler, are having problems when using the Création Centre, where we can only se a part of the screen....

Please make player fatigue more realistic!!!

You people are very SAD, you are like little boys begging for free candy when you know you are not gonna get it. Last year was the same, and I suspect that EA will play wih you little boys for a very long time. I mean why shouldn't they? they are definetly getting away with it year after year.

Anyway good luck with the begging.

How about some skill moves?
the ones on the game even if well excuted are not very effective against a good human player? I dont understand why the best part of the game was removed. the game is almost perfect with the new improvements, I just miss my skill moves.

To the developers or whoever is in charge: next time put something on the box stating the changes. I was surprised with the quality of the game but dissapointed with the lack of skill moves.
Don't know if I would have bought the game if I knew what I know now.

ok, just my 2 cents

definately the pass back to keeper must be fixed. we should be able to pass to the keeper more easliy without worring about the keeper letting the ball go into the net.

My little list:

- They have a folder called TRAINING. Did they simply forget to link it?
- Theres a really strange bug thats happened a few times to me where they ball will disappear from the players foot and go out of bounds... wierd but hard to replicate.
- When kicking a long lob when right on the wings (using keyboard), they ball ALWAYS goes out, even if there is a guy in front.
- Hitting the post.
- AI isn't agressive enough
- Able to play the world cup after you qualify.
- Multi player tournaments (on the one computer)
- The amount a stuffing around the AI defense does.

And an ehnancement request:
- Have a season mode similar to "RTWC" when playing France etc. where you have to raise the countries ranking up to a certain level (like Australia is going to do when it wins the World Cup!!! - ok, maybe we should just qualify first!!)

My memory could fail me, but I don't think EA has ever released a patch to address gameplay issues in FIFA - they've only been to fix video card incompatibilites, etc. And judging by the response in one of the threads here where they told some guy asking about a bug fix "that's the way we make the game - if you don't like it return it to...." I wouldn't get my hopes up for any substantial changes in a patch.

To Berkamp 16,

I knew someone would come barging into me with something like that. You might know nuts about gridiron football. I have watched and played football since I was nine and I am very certain I know my football. You mentioned that I had not played ISS. Well, I have played both ISS PE 1 and 2 and for your information, give away ISS PE 1 away after I bought PE 2.

I do not intend to start an argument. I am a working professional in my late thirties and I played computer games only for recreation. I have better things in life to do than to go around arguing with people which game is superior than the other. Sad to see people like you doing this. The world would be a lot more peaceful if we have less people who are less extreme.

The reason I post this thread is to tell you little boys to stop arguing over this trivial things. It truly tickles me when I read this forum. So, grow up boys.

Oh my God, are you still playing that stinker of a game?
Here are a few hints:

Change the CPU goalkeeper from Superman to just human.

Change the human goalkeeper from Homer Simpson with zero eyesight and heavy brain damage to anything remotely human.

Make either all players solid or insolid, not just solid CPU players.

Try to have the CPU keeper score less from goal kicks (yes, he friggin' does)

Make a basic study of the offside rule.

Try to make the CPU score less from it's own half.

Have both CPU and human player perform the same moves.

Stop adding fancy things like weight and height and footedness if you're not going to use it in the game.

Stop your misleading and criminal info- and ad campaign if you're not going to deliver.

Make human players react withing 5 seconds of using the controls.

And finally, if it's not too much to ask: retreat from the football gaming scene and hand over the market to Konami, who actually put an effort into making a game. Go make a Cheerleading game or whatever it is they do over there.
Just stop polluting the market with overpriced crap and phoney extatic reviews that are supposed to make the ignorant buy
the same pile of rubbish every year.
If someone thinks I could be sued for saying EA are frauds, I'd be more than happy to supply them with my adress.

I'm off to my PS2 for a nice game of TIF 2002!

Cheers,

King Kenny.

someone else made this point.....

1)it is really only fun to play the PC at AM level. When you play the PC at Pro and world class all the AI does is dump and chase the ball into the corners.

2) Why can't the players on the bench have track suits that match the team, they look like loosers wearing all black doing their dumb streches

I would like to see an EXTRA CLOCK that counts down or up for injury time.

looking at 90:00 for any giving time is frustrating.

I've noticed that there are so many requests that I think EA will need to release an entirely new game, this will basically be 2003 with all the things some people want.

SHOOT OUT!!!
SHOOT OUT
SHOOT OUT

Also the name commentary when u change hair and stuff

Originally posted by King Kenny
Oh my God, are you still playing that stinker of a game?
Here are a few hints:

Change the CPU goalkeeper from Superman to just human.

Change the human goalkeeper from Homer Simpson with zero eyesight and heavy brain damage to anything remotely human.

Make either all players solid or insolid, not just solid CPU players.

Try to have the CPU keeper score less from goal kicks (yes, he friggin' does)

Make a basic study of the offside rule.

Try to make the CPU score less from it's own half.

Have both CPU and human player perform the same moves.

Stop adding fancy things like weight and height and footedness if you're not going to use it in the game.

Stop your misleading and criminal info- and ad campaign if you're not going to deliver.

Make human players react withing 5 seconds of using the controls.

And finally, if it's not too much to ask: retreat from the football gaming scene and hand over the market to Konami, who actually put an effort into making a game. Go make a Cheerleading game or whatever it is they do over there.
Just stop polluting the market with overpriced crap and phoney extatic reviews that are supposed to make the ignorant buy
the same pile of rubbish every year.
If someone thinks I could be sued for saying EA are frauds, I'd be more than happy to supply them with my adress.

I'm off to my PS2 for a nice game of TIF 2002!

Cheers,

King Kenny.





nice review i´m with you men.

Firstly, the game isn't that bad really, it's quite fun but:-

Things that can be solved in a patch:-

[list=1]
Put squad names on shirts
Make keeper overarm throws reach the halfway line (as i understand it, if you stand still and throw, you roll it, but if you are running to the edge of the box, it's overarm, is this right??)
Put numbers on shorts
Do something with penalties, only having a choice of left right or centre is crap, at the very least give us back the 2001 system.
Solve the controller auto 1-2 problem (by disabling all axis except x and y)
Solve the mapping of buttons for multiple controllers on one system problem
Solve the formations bugs
Make players tire quicker (so they get to about 80% after 90 mins unless you do some stupid runs)
Stop the computers through balls being perfect every time
Make the assistant refs flag the right way on throw-ins
Remove limit on creation centre things
[/list=1]

Things that might be possible in a patch:-

[list=1]
Make a new skill thing so that when you hold skill button and press pass/lob/shoot the player crosses his legs to kick it (very common move in football recently)
Make small improvements to AI and Ball Physics
Give bench people a training kit based on team colours.
[/list=1]

Things do be done for the next release:-

All of the above that don't make a patch and:-
[list=1]
Revamp AI, i.e. give a wider range of tactics, and make teams actually play differently to each other.
Add actual keeper kits per team as well as home and away kits
Add more stadiums (and remove wembley, no-one will ever play there again (at least not in the current stadium))
Add the indoor 5-a-side stadium
Return the offside and pressing tactics and set piece routines
Improve keepers drastically
Finally, offer me a job as a consultant on the game, for which I would expect an obscene wage and a low work load ;) :D ;) :D
[/list=1]

I've just sent the following email to my contact at EA Sports. Hopefully they'll be able to include some of your points in the patch, if not, atleast in World Cup 2002.

The email read:

"There has been plenty of good feedback in response to the news about the upcoming patch you're planning. Check out:

http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&postid=153265#post153265

Do you have any further details on what you expect it to include and when it will be released?"


I'll let you know when I get a reply.

maybe the best FIFA 2002 patch would be FIFA 2003??? :D :D :D

I'm with KING KENNY although i don't have PS2

If the patch is due for release then nothing said here is gonna matter.

It'll probably fix some video card issues & minor gameplay flaws ea deem worthy of fixing...much like any other patch they've ever released for fifa.

How come madden/NHL/tiger all get regular roster updates & stats? in the case of tiger completely new courses are released post game:<

EA are sucky

I can't believe this ...

I can't believe that you put things
such as minor details about "the colour
of the shirt" on players sitting on the bench
and "numbers on the shorts" ahead of
beeing able to share the fun with your
friends in a tournament ..

Sorry, no harm ment, but it's seems pretty
stupid to ask EA to fix theese minor
details instead of telling them to
bring us back the option to play a
tournament/season with more than
one user-selected team ..

THIS IS WHAT FIFA IS ALL ABOUT !!
Having fun with your friends !!
And that fun does not come from
playing over the internet (because
it doesn't work) or just playing friendlies.

EA can make the game as estetic and
good-looking and realistic as they want
to, and so on ...

BUT THOSE "DETAILS" DOESN'T MATTER AS
LONG AS YOU CANT PLAY TOURNAMENT
ANYMORE ALONG WITH YOUR FRIENDS !!
THIS IS WHAT FIFA HAS ALWAYS BEEN
ABOUT, (98/99/2000/2001) A SOCIAL
FUN GAME THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH
YOUR FRIENDS. AND WHEN THIS IS NOT
POSSIBLE ANYMORE, EA CAN MAKE THE
GAME AS DETAILED THEY (YOU) WANT,
WE ARE NOT GONNA BE PLAYING FIFA
ANYMORE ..

So FIRST go for the MAJOR MALFUNCTIONS
in the game, then go for the DETAILS !!

messus

Fix the castanet-Error when trying to connect to internet. (with Telenet server)
Please fix that, everything ellse i have no probs with.

Originally posted by messus
I can't believe this ...

I can't believe that you put things
such as minor details about "the colour
of the shirt" on players sitting on the bench
and "numbers on the shorts" ahead of
beeing able to share the fun with your
friends in a tournament ..

Sorry, no harm ment, but it's seems pretty
stupid to ask EA to fix theese minor
details instead of telling them to
bring us back the option to play a
tournament/season with more than
one user-selected team ..

THIS IS WHAT FIFA IS ALL ABOUT !!
Having fun with your friends !!
And that fun does not come from
playing over the internet (because
it doesn't work) or just playing friendlies.

EA can make the game as estetic and
good-looking and realistic as they want
to, and so on ...

BUT THOSE "DETAILS" DOESN'T MATTER AS
LONG AS YOU CANT PLAY TOURNAMENT
ANYMORE ALONG WITH YOUR FRIENDS !!
THIS IS WHAT FIFA HAS ALWAYS BEEN
ABOUT, (98/99/2000/2001) A SOCIAL
FUN GAME THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH
YOUR FRIENDS. AND WHEN THIS IS NOT
POSSIBLE ANYMORE, EA CAN MAKE THE
GAME AS DETAILED THEY (YOU) WANT,
WE ARE NOT GONNA BE PLAYING FIFA
ANYMORE ..

So FIRST go for the MAJOR MALFUNCTIONS
in the game, then go for the DETAILS !!

messus

A god point, but I was trying to list things that can actually be done easily. There is no point asking for big things, because they just can't (at least EA wont) be done without releasing a new game. I should have listed it for next time. I don't have a problem, because I have 3 controllers on one machine and usually play friendlies, winner stays on sort of thing (or 3 way play, 2 against 1).

I want the referee will given more cards, especially to the CPU as I have never seem card give to the CPU!! I think that the header of player side is too weak, so that i want it to be equal chance for me to head the ball away. The free kick of the player is bad too, I never score a free kick goal!! There ll also be training mode added to the game too!! I also think that the pass by CPU is too accurate, how can i get the ball if this happened?? One more thing is that why the tournament do not have their own regulation?? Such as UEFA Champion League, there is no chance for team of the same country to be in the same group!! And why i went to the quarter final, i got the opponent that i have face in the first group stage or even second grop stage!!

I want the referee will given more cards, especially to the CPU as I have never seem card give to the CPU!! I think that the header of player side is too weak, so that i want it to be equal chance for me to head the ball away. The free kick of the player is bad too, I never score a free kick goal!! There ll also be training mode added to the game too!! I also think that the pass by CPU is too accurate, how can i get the ball if this happened?? One more thing is that why the tournament do not have their own regulation?? Such as UEFA Champion League, there is no chance for team of the same country to be in the same group!! And why i went to the quarter final, i got the opponent that i have face in the first group stage or even second grop stage!!

I can't score free kicks, I can't head the ball, I hit the posts all the time. Would everyone stop their crying. Maybe the game is not **** but ,its you that is ****

if you like a game, you don't have to like each and every aspect of it. I like it, but that doesn't mean I want to hit the post in every 3 shots that I make, or that I like when a header is taken off from my attackers of the likes of Nistelrooy by some sidey defenders...

and don't tell me that you don't hit the post often or face these very problems....

if you like a game, you don't have to like each and every aspect of it. I like it, but that doesn't mean I want to hit the post in every 3 shots that I make, or that I like when a header is taken off from my attackers of the likes of Nistelrooy by some sidey defenders...

and don't tell me that you don't hit the post often or face these very problems....

Well said Barry, the guys right, stop the moaning, but I wouldn't put it so harshly that you are **** though, just be a bit patient, the game is alittle bit more challenging this way, try and adapt, at leaaast you would master it in a lot longer period of time...and for the otheres, there is somethig called the ini.big filed. These aren't suggestions for a patch guys, because you can do them or amend them in the current game.


I Still say.

1. Enable multi-user teams in all tournaments including Season and WC (wanna play Deportivo and friend say Arsenal, and other friend say Boavista or Argenitna, England and Netherlands)

AND the same in the Multiplayer mode would be great..

The ability to create a custom Season should be given in addition to this. (then at least we can have a worthington cup in England which has four cups. And creat South American clubtournaments, and if you do design this, let it be possible to CHOOSE MORE THAN ONE TEAM and not necessarily from the same league either.

2. Enable the ability to play any/all fixture list games as in FIFA99

3. Fix the formations bug.

4. Multiplayer is slow, so put back IGM system (and this time allow the starting lin-up of each IGM to be programmed, i.e. not one starting lineup arrangement for the three, b/c this makes the computer re-arrange the players on the field, and that is seldom to a players likeing as he has to backk into the game to re-arrange the positionong, and introduce hot key substitution (by this I mean, to subsitute a payer we could say press or hold down the shift key the type the 2 digit number of the player to come-off followed by the 2-digit number to come off) this in addition to FIFA assistant will enable us to make tactical substitution and add an extra detail (i.e. have the gamers learn a bit more about their team or at least the excitement, of being fixed to one team(you would make a fan out of the casual player.)

We would like to see the return of offside trap, 2on1 defending, and setpices 1-3 preferable weith an option to pre-build/or program our custom setpiece arangement (say a slot for 6) same goes for IGM, but we understand that the AI written may change quite a bit to warrant a patch for that.

5. Patch the buggy card and goals scored in season, and arrange them per competition you can make it a slide (the same way viewing goals and cards is currently or goals and goals per team...you make and extra slide that will have Season, Cup competition, European, then useres can use the other slide to view goals scored, cards given etc. That will fix that bug no problem.


Well guys, this might be a bit wordy, but my guess with all this seems reasonable within a patch (maybe except for the setpieces section but I did state.) Its quite easy to program in, and easy to debug...whiles changes to the AI (will take longer to test out and de-bug)

Someof you have some good ideas, post them anyway, who knows what they can do...although I doubt they would add more teams..but its worth presenting...

I don'tknow when the moderators, will pipe this list to them. BUt I hope they choose which suggestions they pick to send sensibly. I hope my five here, have given a suggestion, and also a means/method of carrying out, EA don't have to figure out in what way they gonna do it, at least I have provided a short overview.

To the rest of ya, keep em comin, but keep em sensible, alot of requests thus far, are issues that EA has included in the game or that can be resloved and have been discussed a lot on this forum, read other posts to fin dout, they aren't patch suggestions b/c there is nothing to patch there.

And to the others who think it is a waste of time, well you have your right to say, but I think you are hoping that by not saying it, it would happne. Be positive, cause you discourage other people, its their right to try , and their right to make suggestions. and as I said, someone would read every request sent forward to EA, even if its just to delete, it is read, its not any ones position here to say what would be heard or not, unless you are a decision maker at EA production.

One last thing, keep calm, be coool, its only a game, stoke up your wrath (not in self-righteousness I must add) against important issues like senseless violence, cheats and bullies. For video games enjoy, and if you have an opputnity to contribute to a positive change, go for it.

Fifa 98 options with Fifa 2002 graphics might be coo! :D anyway...

Suggestions:

1) Multiuser teams.

2) Formation issue - dont want Giggs playing sweeper!

3) Controller issues - reaction timing, button assignments, etc, its would be nice to have my human player react within 5 seconds...

4) Brainless defenders - eg. computer hits long ball every time, yet your defenders never figure it out. On corners, your computer controlled defenders just stand there taking pictures of the other team heading the ball into the goal.

5) Game difficulty is like this. Amateur = you win 7-1 every time. Professional = its a matter of scoring more goals than the computer decides to score, usually you tie 3-3 or lose 4-3. WC = havent played it yet so dont know, imagine its like professional but nearly impossible to score. The computer should not score from impossible situations - like from 45 yards out every game, or on nearly EVERY corner since your defenders are bird watching. Yes it should be possible to score amazing goals but give it only 1% or so, not 75%.

6) Audio: crowd noise - more and louder singing, whistling, chanting, drums and other noise makers, crowd should reflect what goes on in the game too.

7) Visual: More weather and stadium options - eg. Fifa 98. The option for fireworks and confetti would be cool...

8) Ball physics - eg. ball goes higher than the stadium and stays in the air like its a balloon, etc...

9) Multilanguage commentary.

10) Panoramic camera - sometimes doesnt move to the play quick enough.

11) World Cup Tournament

I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT WORLD CUP IN THE GAME ,LIKE AFTER WE QUILFIY WE GET TO PLAY IN WORLD CUP 2002:cool:

Originally posted by soccerfan
To Berkamp 16,

I knew someone would come barging into me with something like that. You might know nuts about gridiron football. I have watched and played football since I was nine and I am very certain I know my football. You mentioned that I had not played ISS. Well, I have played both ISS PE 1 and 2 and for your information, give away ISS PE 1 away after I bought PE 2.

I do not intend to start an argument. I am a working professional in my late thirties and I played computer games only for recreation. I have better things in life to do than to go around arguing with people which game is superior than the other. Sad to see people like you doing this. The world would be a lot more peaceful if we have less people who are less extreme.

The reason I post this thread is to tell you little boys to stop arguing over this trivial things. It truly tickles me when I read this forum. So, grow up boys.

I guess I don't have to tell you what a hypocrite you are. Also, what in god's name was the point of telling us all how old you are?? For a thirty something year old man, you should very well know that sometimes age has very little to do with maturity. So stop being so pretentious. Your almost forty and playing video games and your telling us to grow up??

Put Diego Tristan in the spanish squad! When will this patch be released? how do yu use it or wotever?

Guys, for those of you that are having trouble heading, you've gotta hold down the button you're going to use to head. ie. If their goalie has kicked out a high ball, I just hold down S and I usually win it.

This is a bug in itself though, cause when the computer kicks a lob into the corner for its sweeper, and you're there holding D to clear it, your defender stands there looking stupid while the sweeper gets a good run.

Even more annoying is that you can ONLY head AWAY, normally to an opposition player. The CPU has the ability to head to itself and continue to play on. VERY annoying. Now days I intentionally loose any heading duel and simply takle after the CPU has it.

And finally, the Tower camera is VERY slow chasing the ball along the near side wing, and often gets caught up behind some of the stadium trusses. How can we play a game when you can't see whats on the pitch.

By the way, I do love the game, I just bough ISS, but I actually enjoy playing 2001 more than 2002 against friends. Even with the stuffed ref in it, it just seems more desperate.

Fifa 2002 - Todo:


- Linesman are in the wrong side. Swap their side.
- PowerBar use for air ball control (like heading and volley shot)
- Reinsert Training
- Reinsert Penalty Shot Match
- Reinsert IGM formation (using F11 and F12 from Keyboard to switch formation for Home and Away team)
- Reinsert MULTIPLAYER Custom Season/Cup (we wanna play our custom/season cup with friends on the same PC)
- Reinsert the choice of wheater, time lenght, stadium before start the match (after controller selection)
- Reinsert initial TOSS (Head/Tails choice, who win, choice the side, the other kick off the ball first)

- Do not remove ANY fetures present on Fifa 2002!!!

Notice that the 85% of the "Todo", are things that are already present in previous Fifa Series.
Reinsert these features will take about 1 hour of work... If need, i may do it for you. :)


Other Things:
- Reinsert INDOOR SOCCER
- Actually the stadium files are called:
04cd_p for clear day
04cd_s for clear day
04cn_p for clear night
04cn_s for clear night
04rd_p for wet day
04rd_s for wet day
04rn_p for wet night
04rn_s for wet night

the 04 ahead of filename, is a progressive number.
Following this idea, let us to ADD new stadium (not replace the original one).
The game will search (in stadium selection) for all the stadium file present...

So if we want to add new stadium, we may add these file:
15cd_p for clear day
15cd_s for clear day
15cn_p for clear night
15cn_s for clear night
15rd_p for wet day
15rd_s for wet day
15rn_p for wet night
15rn_s for wet night

with the new stadium type.

maaan I totally forgot about indoor - that would be awesome! I think 98 had it right?

skotj1979, I forgot about the heading problem. What makes the computer successful with the tactic of ONLY playing LONG air balls, is the fact that they can actually win the air challenge AND keep the ball. What usually happens is the computer attacker and the human defender both go up for the challenge....with his back to you, the computer knocks your defender on his ass, heads the ball a meter behind you, keeps his balance, and screws your girl simultaneously, then dribbles a few and rips an upper 90 shot past your keeper from 40 meters out. We all know how difficult it is for a forward to win an air ball with his back to the goal AND keep possession.

To make things worse...there is NO way in heck you could do the same thing to the computer. IF the computer decides you should win an airball up front, the only thing you can do is flick it on, in turn it just goes to the keeper or defender. Occasionally the computer will miss the header and if you happen not to for the header (or the control doesnt work, which usually happens to me), you'll bring it down nicely with your chest.

Ok, let´s clear some things....

To the australian people.......the city where the final against Uruguay will be played, it is NOT Montivideo...is MONTEVIDEO...
I whishes good luck to you people.....you deserve to be in a WC.....you played very well the other day....

To the EA team........you are a disgrease......you need to learn more about soccer and its history before doing a game......

Do you know anything about Uruguay???
Do you know that we have 2 WC? 1930 and 1950, the last one, being the biggest wonderful in a WC ever played?
That if you count all the WC, America´s Cup, etc, played in the 20th. century, Uruguay has more titles than Argentina and Brasil?
That we have 2 teams that won 4 WC of teams and 7 America´s Cup of teams? Nacional and Peñarol
Please, at least, put them in the teams selection....don´t be so ignorant!

IGM must come back into FIFA 2002.

The goalkeeping error in which you can score from half way up the field should also be addressed.

And can someone please tell me what this ball shooting bug is??
I think the shooting is fine in this version. What is wrong with the ball physics??

sh!te EA, who the **** puts a camera behind a ****ing flag?!?!

um,yeah the default replays after u'v scored r really sucky:mad:

To bertkamp 16,

What is your problem? Is there a law to state that someone nearing forty can't play videogames as a hobby? There isn't any.

Does playing videogames at my age make me less mature? I don't think so. It is the way you does things that reveal one's maturity. Arguing over a trivial matter and still insisting that one is right when there is no right or wrong answer is immature and I am certain that you are in this category.

In what way am I pretentious? By stating that I prefer Fifa to ISS. You said I have not played ISS but I have! So go fly your kite.

And can someone please tell me what this ball shooting bug is??
I think the shooting is fine in this version. What is wrong with the ball physics??

You are right, for the last guys there is nothing that needs to be patched about the ball physics, balll physics is determined by a bunch of equations, if you don't like the default settings, there is a file in the FIFA2002/data/environment folder called the ini.big file, you can open it in word pad or note pad, make shcanges and save it, and u would see the changes in the game, there you would find lots of options you can change for the on-pitch game, including all the ball physics, to avoid every thing you dislike about ball physics(i.e. too much boounce, not enough height, etc have a look and fiddle around for yourself) alternatively, some people have made some great patches, having altered and fiddle with these details themselves and tested them. You can download their ini.big files and use them, go to the links section for soemlinks, or look in othere posts on this forum (if they havne't been deleted) try fifastyle.com or soccered.com and go to their patch sections, if not use their links, you'd find some somewhere.

SO I repeat, this aspect needs no patch, you can chang eit, EA don't have to mak e a patch for it, if they do trust me all they would have done, owuld have cahnged some of teh figures that you can change and including that ini.big in their new patch.

Been playing muliplayer via direct I.P with ADSL connection. Plays really well but the clients controllers revert to default settings not the settings they have configured on their own PC. In fact contoller config generally sucks. The Microsoft Sidewinder Pro did not work properly, the Z button would not map to any function ended up getting a Gravis pro instead, works well.

List of problems:

Many bugs (must fix)

Multipalyer bug.

Line up bug.

and more bugs must be fixed.

Things ea must add:

First more teams

world cup

greek leauge

training

flares in the crowds

update the stadiums

ball for every league (e.g champions league ball when yu palying champion league )

palease to add panathinaikos

new adboards

when i download a stadium and install it it won't overwright the default fifa 2002 stadium.

and the tv logos.

Anything other problem must fix.

palease to add panathinaikos

Panathinaikos is there, its called Leoforos.

Many of the other suggestions are very good, but I have only one wish. I can't play FIFA2002 because I have a SideWinder plug and play gamepad. It's not a PRO with all the schemes and so on, its a simple usb gamepad.

I want to remap my gamepad in the game! I am also able to do that but it wont save! It's impossible to play the game now, some of my friends play it on the keyboard when they visit me, but I can't play before this bug is fixed.

And no, it's not my job to spend money on a Gravis gamepad, it's EA Sport's job to fix the problem for me and everybody else who has this problem.

Originaly posted by mace II:


Panathinaikos is there, its called Leoforos.


please where panathinaikos is at rest of world?

answer me!

Originally posted by soccerfan
To bertkamp 16,

What is your problem? Is there a law to state that someone nearing forty can't play videogames as a hobby? There isn't any.

Does playing videogames at my age make me less mature? I don't think so. It is the way you does things that reveal one's maturity. Arguing over a trivial matter and still insisting that one is right when there is no right or wrong answer is immature and I am certain that you are in this category.

In what way am I pretentious? By stating that I prefer Fifa to ISS. You said I have not played ISS but I have! So go fly your kite.

Go fly my kite??? :confused: I'll just leave you alone before I get you all riled up and give you a heart attack...:rolleyes: ;)

when is the official EA patch going to be released?
Does that "soon" mean weeks, months or waiting for Fifa 2003?

Panathinaikos is there, its called Leoforos.

Yes it is there, but here is the catch, its not a user selectable team, every year EA seem to do this, have a few extra clubs availble....BOAVISTA is one such (called simply Porto as opposed to FC Porto, which is in the game as FC PORTO). but not as user selectable teams.

DOn't ask me why, I don't know, those teams are complete and full, they are locked out of the game. FED2k1 (a patch program created by Chau - who is often on the forum) had the ability to make these teamm user-selectable, and other patch makers, have managed to un-lock them so gamers can use. Maybe you can complain to EA and tell them to make those locked up teams usable, or maybe they can be unlocked by winning competitions, I simply don't know.

All I know is when newly loaded on to the PC, teams such as Panathinaikos (called Leoforos) and Boavista FC (called Porto) are their and often appear in season mode, but cannot be selected by users to play.

How about patching the injuries... that is, after a player gets injured, the next game he is still in the starting 11! This is annoying...

How about patching the injuries... that is, after a player gets injured, the next game he is still in the starting 11! This is annoying...

That doesn't always happen, infact every time myplayer has been injured he misses a game, sometimes more, and as you say, sometimes in the next game, just like in real life. in FIFA2k2, the assistant also tells you wot type of injury and how serious is it..I suppose that gives an indication on how long the player will be out.

Originally posted by Mace II


That doesn't always happen, infact every time myplayer has been injured he misses a game, sometimes more, and as you say, sometimes in the next game, just like in real life. in FIFA2k2, the assistant also tells you wot type of injury and how serious is it..I suppose that gives an indication on how long the player will be out.

Does this happen on the original Leagues, and on the custom leagues too?

plz change the bugs
make the champions league wit da good teams an the champions league jerseys
and last but not leastadd dynam kiev to the game kmon give them credit the were evn in the champions league:crazyboy: :crazyboy: :crazyboy:

Matt????

what do you thing about this topic??

what fix do you think that EA will release?? (after reading, i hope, this topic)

When will there be a patch, When?????:confused: :monkey: :D

fix the problem in the creation center when triyng to play a world cup

after 1st fase u match up with the other team from your own group..... fix it please...!!!

What is so bad about FIFA2002 anyways? Everything is great and they have improved alot over last years version:cool:

Where is the World Cup Competition? Whats the fun of just qualifying for the cup and not going all the way?:mad:

i think the patch would be Fifa World Cup 2002... hahaha F-UCK EA

This is why there is no patch:

A conversation in the EA FIFA Head Office

FIFA Lead Developer
I think we should release the FIFA Football patch tomorrow

FIFA Director
Ah, whats football?



And there's ya problem.

I hope they'll fix SOME of the bugs...
..but you never know with EA...

where did all those player skills add more player skills these skills in fifa 2002 hardly work

IGM.

remove cumbersome controls. i'd prefer fifa 99 like controls (ctrl and alt)

most of them have already been mentioned. just hoped that fifa 2002 will be much better, not like someone said 70% players doesn't like fifa2k. reverse the figure!

EA has done a great job with the graphics, just that the gameplay bugs are a pain in the back. it's just the bugs.

Originally posted by The FIFA RTWC Webmaster
I hope they'll fix SOME of the bugs...
..but you never know with EA...

That's true but they did patch Madden 2002 to fix the DB AI that so many people bitched about so maybe there is hope that will do the same for Fifa. Time will tell.

BTW, Does anyone know when this patch is supposed to be released? Thanks.

Ezio

In my humble opinion this should be fixed (all are small but important fixes):

- Improve the AI for Professional level. The CPU uses the same passes and tactics all game long. Just ad a couple more tactics, the ones in amateur for example.

- Give us a training mode with the option to play against NO team, just ourselves so we can learn how to use the new target system.

- Fix the teleporting ball bug (many of us have replays with this one where the ball goes in the opposite direction of the shoot and scores a goal or autogoal)

- Fix the many bugs found in the creation centre. The face lock down and the missing players for example.

- Fix the winged formation bug.

- Make the players get tired more often. I have edited the ini.big file and change the stamina setting to 0.3 instead of 0.03 and right now I am playing with Saudi Arabia, the assistant never reports a tired player because the stamina recovers to fast, at the end of each game all players are in 90% or more.

- Make the CPU fail some passes also. The game is great because more errors ocurr, but it is not fun if the only one making them is the human player. (the CPU misses shoots on goal but NEVER misses while passing)

Hope this helps. Thanks.

i`d like EA sports to fix those half way line goal bu the pc players...they make no sense at all and they should be removed...i`d like also to see the pc making some defensive mistakes and dangerous tackles.

Anyway i don`t think they can improve the game alot...it is the worst fifa game ever released...it seems that the makers of the game have never seen a football match and that they made the game based on watching NHL matches.

10th page eh, lot of work for ea to do lol.

anyway i want training option back cause im crap.

plus, the cpu STILL has never fouled me WHY?

Guys (and girls),

If you edit the ini.big file (with Wordpad, not Notepad) there are a couple of changes you can make.

There is a setting for "New defenisve passing" or something like that. Set it to off, or old (i can't quite remember), and it stops the CPU backline passing to each other constantly.

There is also one called "Crazy CPU offside" that stops the CPU cheating on the offside (they even know its cheating!! Why include it???)

Hope this help....

There is also one called "Crazy CPU offside" that stops the CPU cheating on the offside (they even know its cheating!! Why include it???)

Simple...b/c some many of you guys moan the game is so easy...they have include just made this extra and annoying things...to make it easier for the CPU to score..challenging you a bit more...and like in FIFARTWC it seems, that WC mode makes you little less accurate...aas well as the CPU being etter...at the end of the day...you can fiddle around with the ini.big file....aand you can pretty much eliminate all aspects that annoy whiles playing the game although this may take some time to do...on more thing..make sure you've played the game a while before tampering with the ini.big file...and always remerbt o back up (if youdon't well there is the original file in the CD so you really don't have to worry,

if I change the ini.big file, using wordpad, I can get the game to load but when I go to play, ie 3d mode, it quits to the desktop...

wordpad works for me, but notepad doesn't.... You can also use a hex-editor (check the usual download sites), but Wordpad works best I think.:p

just give me back my old passing system (short pass and through pass)...i hate this powerup passing system...i can`t put 4 or 5 decent passes together.

i`d also like to improve the pc player A.I. the pc player only knows to make 2 or 3 one two passes then it hit the ball upfield with a long pass then it shots from outside the box to hit the bar or the net.

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Maybe this has been said before, but here goes.

Many others and myself play in an online tournament. In order to make the matter of winning depend on the player himself, and not what team he has, we would like to be able to modify all player stats in the teams we play with.

In other words, we would like to be able to play equally with Arsenal versus Molenbelk (or any other low rated team).

However, when connecting online, fifa chooses to use default player stats.

Is there some way that this can be changed?

where is the patch???????????