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Gareth
26-11-2001, 10:13:AM
I was not an optismist from the beginning and new Uruguay would win and qualify, good on Uruguay, they played well, Australia were terrible and were lucky to get a result in Melbourne.

Australia were substandard and Uruguay were great simple, I wont critisize FIFA for the qualifying procedure, what's done is done.

Last note, GO ENGLAND!!!! (My Homeland, although my heart is with Australia)

Ruben Sosa
26-11-2001, 10:18:AM
Now now, I wouldn't say that. I watched the match and I saw Uruguay very unstable at times. Australia had lots of chances to score. They deserved to go to the world cup and I hope that FIFA places a spot for Oceania for WC 2006.

haha
26-11-2001, 10:19:AM
England won't get very far.

Dirlewanger
26-11-2001, 10:19:AM
its a bad result for Australia for sure, made all the more difficult by the bad vibes pre-match....but the star players in your team are all still young enough for 2006

C U there...along with Scotland hopefully:)

manufan
26-11-2001, 10:23:AM
England won't get very far.

Neither will Scotland.;)

Gareth
26-11-2001, 10:23:AM
England will do OK I think.

yes Uruguay were rattled at times, but Australia lacked the creativity of Recoba up front, we need someone who is as good a player. Kewell is a great League player, but Recoba is good World Class player.

Australia had their chances, but they didn't take them, and thats what counts, if you take your chances or not.

Gareth
26-11-2001, 10:25:AM
As for the World Cup 2006 spot, Australia has been told we would get a spot for Oceania, the qualifying changed as well for that campaign, but you know what FIFA are like when it comes to these things.

Especially Sepp Blatter, he's sick in the head, and corrupt.

the_man
26-11-2001, 10:27:AM
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Now now, I wouldn't say that. I watched the match and I saw Uruguay very unstable at times. Australia had lots of chances to score. They deserved to go to the world cup and I hope that FIFA places a spot for Oceania for WC 2006.

Yeah, I would have loved to see Austrailia in the finals..I don't think FIFA will give OFC a spot until there are more than two teams in that confederation...lets face it, they walk all over their "competition" (i use this word loosely) in OFC and they can't beat number 5 in CONEMBOL (which is a pretty good team on their own). not going to change for 2006. OFC 0/1 spot.

haha
26-11-2001, 10:28:AM
Scotland aren't in the WC.....

Australia will deffently go through then, who is there to beat them in Oceana, American Somoa?

lito88
26-11-2001, 10:30:AM
URUGUAY ...URUGUAY!!!!!!!! I was there!!!! I was in the stadium!!!!!! I LOVE MY COUNTRY...I LOVE URUGUAY!!!!! I LOVE FIFA I LOVE ALL!! I LOVE I LOVE!!!
I AM VERY HAPPY!!!!!!

lito88
26-11-2001, 10:32:AM
Now now, I wouldn't say that. I watched the match and I saw Uruguay very unstable at times. Australia had lots of chances to score. They deserved to go to the world cup and I hope that FIFA places a spot for Oceania for WC 2006. :confused: :confused: :confused:
LA P*TA QUE TE PARIO!!!!! VOS NO SOS URUGUAYO ...MEDIOCRE!!!!!!!

I love my country .....I love Uruguay...I will be in Japon /Korea!!!

ZePenguin
26-11-2001, 10:33:AM
Originally posted by the_man


Yeah, I would have loved to see Austrailia in the finals..I don't think FIFA will give OFC a spot until there are more than two teams in that confederation...lets face it, they walk all over their "competition" (i use this word loosely) in OFC and they can't beat number 5 in CONEMBOL (which is a pretty good team on their own). not going to change for 2006. OFC 0/1 spot.

Yeah i totally agree with you, Asutralia have no competition at all, and as i said earlier, if there was an automatic qual spot for ofc, Asutralia would quailify for the next 36 World Cups :rolleyes:

haha
26-11-2001, 10:34:AM
You had a ticket to the match didn't you?

lito88
26-11-2001, 10:37:AM
You had a ticket to the match didn't you?
yes ..I was in the stadium......I will be in Japon/Korea too!

Gareth
26-11-2001, 10:37:AM
Well according to Soccer Australia the Qualifiers will have 6 teams from Oceania, only NZ can compete with Australia, and we will play 10 games (each team twice home and away) and who ever finished top qualifies, thats the recommendation from the OFC and Soccer Australia.

That would be fair, how can you make football better in Oceania if you don't promote it by giving OFC a place.

How can you call it a World Cup if not all portions of the World are not represented, its crazy. Whats the point in having the OFC if they are meaningless to FIFA.

This is what my mum said:
Also Uruguay had their chance in their qualifiers and missed, its not fair they get a 2nd chance and we dont

I agree with here in a way, but whats done is done.

Ruben Sosa
26-11-2001, 10:38:AM
Lito... no me inches los huevos. Uruguay se merecia ir mas que Australia. Lo que dije fue que Australia tendria que tener una ida directa al mundial.

PS> Que te re-contra por las dudas.

lito88
26-11-2001, 10:45:AM
Mira no voy a discutir mas contigo..porque sos Uruguayo y no vale la pena...pero fuiste el primero en decir que iva a claificar Australia..no confiaste en tu pais..por mas malo que juegue..asi que no te subas al carro ahora!!!!!! me voy a festejar a 18 de julio..y hoy me tomo todo!!! Mucha cerbeza

the_man
26-11-2001, 10:52:AM
Originally posted by Gareth
Well according to Soccer Australia the Qualifiers will have 6 teams from Oceania, only NZ can compete with Australia, and we will play 10 games (each team twice home and away) and who ever finished top qualifies, thats the recommendation from the OFC and Soccer Australia.

That would be fair, how can you make football better in Oceania if you don't promote it by giving OFC a place.

How can you call it a World Cup if not all portions of the World are not represented, its crazy. Whats the point in having the OFC if they are meaningless to FIFA.

This is what my mum said:


I agree with here in a way, but whats done is done.

You know, the Qualifiers for the World Cup is part of the tournament. Hence the World Cup. That is why when we say a team qualifies, we say they are going to the World cup finals.

Second...the reason why OFC gives 0/1 team is just what ZePenguin said. Austrialia will go thru to all the finals and they won't do well (yes I said it). The reason being they are use to 22-0, 31-0 matches against the likes of my neighborhoods rec league, but when they meet the bottom of the other federations, they don't qualify?!? Hmm, you wonder why. Actually to give Australia credit, they have been really close for the last 3 WCQ's, losing a spot in the finals by a goal, away goals and now 2 goals.

I said this in another thread and gave some examples. Until an OFC team gets to the world cup and makes an impact (like get to the second round) Fifa will still give OFC a 0/1 chance to the world cup.

FIFA has the responsibility of making the world cup finals as diverse as possible, yet, they have to make the finals as competitive as possible.


That would be fair...to Austrialia and N. Zealand...Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, America Samoa, Tahiti, Solomon, Islands, Vanuatu and Cook Islands will not agree. The way FIFA has it set up is for the whole of the confederation to be better, not just for the sake of two teams.

How can OFC be better u ask? they will get better like how all the other federations get better, when their locals leagues step up and when more of their stars go to Europe and gain experience. Then all the OFC teams will be stronger, none of the at 27-0 shhitee and then the OFC team will be able to make a better challenge in a play off against another confederation. Australia had that in their team (I'm referring to the whole of OFC) and I honestly thought this was their cup...but oh well, it's not the end of the world...I should know, I love Holland, they didn't make it too.

the_man
26-11-2001, 10:56:AM
Hey guys, please do not disrespect the rest of us by speaking your language...if there is something you want to say that you don't want us to see, then send a private message.

Ruben Sosa
26-11-2001, 10:58:AM
Primero que todo... Dario Silva estava previsto a quedar afura de las dos finales. Un mes por lo menos se dijo. No contava conque jugaba hoy.

Segundo, despues de dos mundiales eliminados agarre la costumbre de que Uruguay no mete nada. Pua me parece un gil que sita a los Jugadores que manda el paco. Magallanes fue un orto y si seguia en la cancha estaria Australia en el mudial.

Ademas... siempre que alento a Uruguay, pierde. Mas vale no alentarlo y de esa forma gana. Que joder, todos los partidos que Uruguay perdio fueron los unicos que yo puede escuchar. Es la primera ves que veo a Uruguay ganar (no pasaron la eliminatorias aca).

Ruben Sosa
26-11-2001, 11:02:AM
We're not dissrespecting you guys. He's just saying I'm not Uruguayan and that I don't belive in Uruguay's players. No biggie, just easier to talk in spanish that's all. He thinks that I was saying Australia should of Qualified. What I was trying to say was that Oceania should have a direct spot to the World Cup. In any case, sorry.

PS> Disfruta la fiesta Lito.

lito88
26-11-2001, 11:05:AM
sorry the_man...this is the last one!

Ruben...no vale la pena pelearnos...vamo arriva Uruguay...y voy a disfrutar !!!! y vos disfrut tambien que el domingo Nacional gana la primer final del Uruguayo..y el miercoles somos campeones!!!

Enzo
26-11-2001, 11:08:AM
hermanos! no discutan, yo entiendo perfectamente lo que se siente cuando tu equipo no va bien y casi que no querés ilusionarte para no llevarte otro trastazo, sin embargo,,,te confieso que yo si soy hincha hasta el final....hasta el minuto 9 y pico hasta donde hay chance.
mi alegría no puede ser mayor ya que mis dos patrias van al mundial, costa rica y uruguay.
les envío un abrazo y compartamos la inmensa felicidad.

che. vo lito88, si fueras tan amable envíame un mail a lider@rodimusconvoy.com, y me describís un poco lo que viviste hoy en el centenario!!!! yo tuve que oírlo por radio :(

to the guys in the forum, sorry i used spanish, is just easier for us, just telling them congratulations and send them good vibes for the qualification just won. :)

a tomar carajo!!! :)

Ruben Sosa
26-11-2001, 11:10:AM
Eso, vamo Uruguay, y vamo el Bolso! (Menos mal que somos los dos bolsos... imaginate si uno era manya. :eek: )

Gareth
26-11-2001, 11:11:AM
Well this is how it SHOULD be done, being fair to football and Oceania.

1. Have an early qualifying system for Oceania, the same as always, but no Australia vs NZ playoff, instead they qualify for the AFC (Asian groups).
2. This means they are representing OFC but qualify as an Asian Nation.
3. If they can match it with the Asian teams (Australia and NZ that is), then they deserve a spot.

This means they have 2 OFC teams in the AFC qualifying groups (not the AFC preliminary qyualifying), then give AFC 5 spots instead of 4, that will boost football in OFC and ASIA (which is what FIFA want)

Everybody wins, Australia get more match practice and fairer path to the World Cup.

ParaguayTuPapa
26-11-2001, 01:10:PM
The idea of putting Australia in the Asian quailifiers is actually a great idea. Put the top three of four teams from Oceania in the AFC qualifiers, and give them 5 spots. Brillant. Now, to convince FIFA of that....

The Oracle
26-11-2001, 01:35:PM
Sounds like a good idea to me, but what happens when the Aussies have to travel to the other side of the world several times for matches with the Arab teams? Australia may have most of their players based in Europe but not all of them?

galah
26-11-2001, 05:37:PM
How can we contact FIFA, and get them to include a spot for Oceania.

I have a feeling it won't happen because there is not much money to be made from the Oceania grooup. And soccer seems to be about money. If it wasn't, why was the Champions League extended to accept more than just the winning clubs from each european league? Made the competition a joke, and has caused to many players to burn out.

Parra Power
26-11-2001, 10:35:PM
Originally posted by Gareth
Well this is how it SHOULD be done, being fair to football and Oceania.

1. Have an early qualifying system for Oceania, the same as always, but no Australia vs NZ playoff, instead they qualify for the AFC (Asian groups).
2. This means they are representing OFC but qualify as an Asian Nation.
3. If they can match it with the Asian teams (Australia and NZ that is), then they deserve a spot.

This means they have 2 OFC teams in the AFC qualifying groups (not the AFC preliminary qyualifying), then give AFC 5 spots instead of 4, that will boost football in OFC and ASIA (which is what FIFA want)

Everybody wins, Australia get more match practice and fairer path to the World Cup.

Exactly my thoughts. It really isn't fair for us to have to play against teams and win 30-0 and then play a quality side like Uruguay. And if this happens, our qualification campaign would get more respect from clubs. Being in Asia would mean the likes of Kewel and Viduka would be playing in all our qualifiers, giving our team time to play together instead of just being thrown in almost unprepared against a strong team in a play-off.