as a speak i'm watching a city in flames...Ariel Sharon to address Israel...WOAH!!:eek: :eek:

more death and destruction

Don't you just love humanity.........

when something happens, I like to wach forign tv...
cnn, sky news, bbc news etc...
and the picture that they draw is soooooo far from thruth...

today they sayed: "Israel attacked in beit-lehem"
which did not happened

"Israel helicopters attacks police headquarters and building in..."
all they did is bombing Arafat's private helicopters...

and they made it sound like wwIII is been opend...

no tell me... 26 innocent people death = 2 helicopters, no deads no injures?

I did enjoyd to hear Dennis Rose, who was the massager of Clinton
to the middle east, he - as someone who know wassup here
fom close... sayed he understand Israel, that after a year
and a half of killing, will act now...

as for being cinical abut humanity...
Israel is a state who represent the free world in the middle east
as you know there aren't any democratic states here
sometimes you must show your power to keep
the freedom alive. think about it.

Originally posted by The True
as for being cinical abut humanity...
Israel is a state who represent the free world in the middle east
as you know there aren't any democratic states here
sometimes you must show your power to keep
the freedom alive. think about it.

Hey man...i didn't mean it that way...what i meant with my cinicl comment, was a general comment on the world......and coming from a wartorn country myself.......i know this kinda sh**, as it has hit me, my familiy and friends......

sure... I know that, silly...:D
just brought Israel as an example.

Nice and safe here in the Uk :p

Originally posted by haha
Nice and safe here in the Uk :p

U.S.A used to be the safest place too...
I sure hope nothing will happen in england,
I really like Blair, but NOwhere is safe now...:monkey:

Originally posted by The True
I really like Blair, but NOwhere is safe now...:monkey:

Not even the deepest caves of Afghanistan!!! :eek: :D

How can you loike Blair, he's a freak!

maybe in inside issues,
I like him cause he got gutts.

Originally posted by haha
Nice and safe here in the Uk :p

you've obviously never heard of the Real IRA:mad: :mad:

Originally posted by The True


U.S.A used to be the safest place too...
I sure hope nothing will happen in england,
I really like Blair, but NOwhere is safe now...:monkey:


America's only been around for 250 years you know. I find that weird, yet we are dominating (for the most part) in military and economy.

Safe, indeed - But England has had it's fair share of wars and uprising on it's land too and very close wars.

Originally posted by Jambo Den


you've obviously never heard of the Real IRA:mad: :mad:

hehe... forgot about it...

Its never affected me, i don't live in London. The Real IRa and other Irish groups have caused more death than the 11/9/01 tradegy. Why doesn't Britain go and kick ther asses :p

are you sure? more then 4,00 people till' now?

yeah, it was on the radio. Lots of people for Northen Irland and London were calling the Yanks pussies and stuff.

wow... more then 4,000 people!
that's a lot!!!

It's been going on for more than 30 years though.

Originally posted by haha
Its never affected me, i don't live in London. The Real IRa and other Irish groups have caused more death than the 11/9/01 tradegy. Why doesn't Britain go and kick ther asses :p

If we really had a zero tolerance policy the SAS and 13th Intelligence units would move in and anihilate the fienyin' scum (no offence meant folks, u know who u r)

end of the real IRA...nice n' simple like:monkey: :monkey: :D

Ah, yes Europe.
It's too many countries close together. We've got North America - and for the most part it's three huge countries. We've really got no problems. Except maybe when we started expanding.....

So, make five countries:
Northern Europe
Eastern Europe
Western Europe
Southern Europe
Central Europe

Then just let everyone fight for control, and whoever gets it wins. And that's the end of that, but then you'll get the loony-folk terrorism and such. And then the end results are - not good. Ooh well, at least you can say you have five Europes.

I don't get what the deal is with Protestants and Catholics. Why can we get along over here in the US, but can't over there?

Originally posted by Joe

I don't get what the deal is with Protestants and Catholics. Why can we get along over here in the US, but can't over there?

too hard to explain.just a bunch of mindless bigots:mad: :mad: :(

Its all because of Henry VIII, he started it all...... well sortof......

Sass know where they all live, but if the were to just run in, then they would get in trouble with other nationsbecuase its not human rights of some european crap like that.

why cant we treat terrorists like they treat us?

they have no regard for human suffering or life, so why should we, as a global society, have any regard for their ass's?

terrorist groups hide behind and manipulate our laws and human decency....waste em' all:p

Mr Blair...Mr Bush...No Tears Will Be Shed

Thats how i feel, but unfortunatly its all those ass-holes in Brussels that make the crappy laws now :mad:

yeah man, those eu ass-holes, I hate those guys:(

they always wanna do stupid stuff like make the perfectly good metric system illegal

Yeah i know, i hate those guys >.<

I must say I'm very dissapointed from Israel srtrike back...
for an year and a half we suffor suicide bombers,
snap shooters, bombs cars etc...

and when we finally do something...
once again, bombing empty buildings...
don't the israeli govrement understand that not only
it doesn't have the right impact on the palestinians
what worst, it got a bad impact on the world's opinion...
it looks like hellicopters bombarding civilians...

I'm sorry to say it, but that what I think...
"Eye for an Eye... Tooth for a tooth"
I wanna see some blood, so Palestinians will understand
once and for all, TERROR DOES NOT PAYES OFF...

you can always build another building...

the problem is that when a palerstinian (or muslem)
is a suicide bomber, after he dies he become an "SHA-HID"
which means = "SAINT"... and when you see his mother
talks on TV she says: "I got another 10 sons, may Allah
bless me they all be Shahids..."

you know the say: "you can't scare a whore with a dick...":eek:

I really don't know anymore what we can do to fight this terror...:confused:

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Originally posted by The True


I'm sorry to say it, but that what I think...
"Eye for an Eye... Tooth for a tooth"
I wanna see some blood, so Palestinians will understand
once and for all, TERROR DOES NOT PAYES OFF...




I understand where ur coming from, but violence breeds violence

you're right, I know...
but what can you do if someone is simply want you dead?
ask him "please"? we even tried this...

you can look at this in another point of view:
if a kid stole and got in troubles with the police
and the father slaps his son to teach him a lesson, is this o.k.?
is this a justified violance?
(not that palestinians are any sons of ours...)

If you occupy a nation, be sure they won't accept that. Get out of Palestine.

IIf you look through the eyes of Isrealis then you would say that it was given to them, so it is theirs.

Even the parts occupied illegally? Only Israel and the US acknowledge that Israel have the right to supremacy over Gaza and the West Bank including East Jerusalem. You can't oppress a people and expect they will accpet what is happening. Did you call the blacks in South Africa for terrorists? No. Israel are the terrorists.

re. above

Some of what you say is the truth, Palestine is a land under occupation and that, in this day and age, is just plain wrong.

But for you to justify the recent wave of suicide bombing's and the unbelievable past violence that has maimed and horribly killed innocent human beings with the infantile defence that the entire Israeli population are terrorists is just plain wrong as well in my opinion.

I dont pretend to be an expert in middle eastern affairs, but murder in the name of god is wrong, from both Israeli's and Palestinians.

No, don't get me wrong. I do absolutely not promote the killings of innocent people, I only say that I can truly understand the anger and frustration that the Palestinians must feel. When I think of the ones who are most suitable to the word terrorist I think mostly of two people: David Ben-Gurion and Ariel Sharon. These two men had no respect for human life besides their own. I hope the violence will end, but that will never occur with a mass murderer like Sharon at the top of the ranks.

Originally posted by The Oracle
If you occupy a nation, be sure they won't accept that. Get out of Palestine.

don't just throw sentences into the air, without knowing facts...
SO PLEASE READ THIS. (THANX)

there is no such thing as "Palestinians"... those teretories which
called ocupied, are indeed ocupied, but from who?
from JORDAN and EGYPT.
now... those who called today "palestinians" are jordanian and egyptian refugees
from those wars, which (and check ALL history books to confirm this)
Israel didn't started.

note: when the U.N decided to give a nation for the jewes after the hollocoast
Arab leaders told the arabs who lived here:
"leave today cause tommorow you'll be back"
and indeed ONE DAY AFTER israel was born, 6 (!) arabic countries
attacked israel... the result: a lot of deads but more land for us...

now back to the palestinian issue...
I want peace more then anybody...
I've voted for Rabin, Peres, Barak... but the palestinians instead
of taking the money from all over the world and build them selves
an independent economy, bought with that money... weapon.
instead of teaching young kids to want peace,
in the school play they play a show of suicide bomber in tel-aviv
8 years old kids...!...learning to explode themselves...!!

and EVEN all the terror we suffored in the past years, came Ehud Barak
and offered Arafat 95% of what he asked (in Camp David)
95%!!! including part of Jerusalem (which even I don't agree on this)
but what did Arafat do? started fire with Hamas and Islamic Jihad
against Israel...

after the explosion in the Dolfinarium disco, where 28 israeli kids died (!!)
he promise to stop terror...
after september 11th, he promised to stop terror...
but still... well... you can see for yourelf...

just a reminder: remember King Hussein of Jordan?
you know what is "black october"?
I'll tell you... in Jorden, those refugees (palestinians) started
a riate against the govrement,
Hussein killed 20,000 (!!) men, women, kid to silent it.
and let me remind you those are arabs against arabs!!!

so why when israel, after all the patient we showed,
(while from USA nobody asked for patients)
can't defend it self??

THANX FOR YOUR PATIENT BY READING THIS.

Originally posted by The True


so why when israel, after all the patient we showed,
(while from USA nobody asked for patients)
can't defend it self??

THANX FOR YOUR PATIENT BY READING THIS.

I don't get the US part.

Israel suffers from terror, for years now.
and all the years the world told us: "don't strike back,
be patient, talk with them... " etc.
while with USA nobody told them to be patient
Bin Laden is a terrorist so he need to be punished. I agree.
but Arafat is also a terrorist, which the world tried to make him a leader
didn't sucseed, I have to say...

BTW just to let you know, who do you think was the teacher Bin Laden?
Yasser Arafat... he started with terrorism 30 years ago,
and Osama Bin Laden was one of his pupils.

Originally posted by The True

BTW just to let you know, who do you think was the teacher Bin Laden?
Yasser Arafat... he started with terrorism 30 years ago,
and Osama Bin Laden was one of his pupils.

Guess who else helped him? The US.

Ironic isn't it... John Rambo did too... maybe we should send him back...

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now I'm more relaxed, and I want to ask Oracle a question.

you say that Israel should go out of the occupied teretories.
o.k... we offered it, and the other side didn't want it.
he keeps on killing our civillians. andsaying on every opprtunity
(in arab not in english) he want to throw Israel to the sea.

what do YOU propuse to do?
(don't tell me (cause we're already tried it) to:
try to talk again (10's of time)
don't strike back (even tried this)
put world-wide pressure on hime (did it..)

so what is your suggestion?