The Poll on Fifa2002.com

Which game is better? As of 3:26pm Adelaide (Australian Central Summer Time) on 9th Febuary 2002

Number of Votes: 3279

FIFA 2002: 1533 (47.62%) :D
PES (POS)*: 491 (15.25%)
Only Played FIFA 2002: 883 (27.43%)
Only Played ISS: 15 (0.47%)
Never heard of POS: 297 (9.23%)

They certainly speak for themselves don't they?! :D

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!

* POS = Piece of S*** :D

Originally posted by Jono82
The Poll on Fifa2002.com

Which game is better? As of 3:26pm Adelaide (Australian Central Summer Time) on 9th Febuary 2002

Number of Votes: 3279

FIFA 2002: 1533 (47.62%) :D
PES (POS)*: 491 (15.25%)
Only Played FIFA 2002: 883 (27.43%)
Only Played ISS: 15 (0.47%)
Never heard of POS: 297 (9.23%)

They certainly speak for themselves don't they?! :D

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!

* POS = Piece of S*** :D
well obviously fifa would get more votes its on fifa2002.com you tool!:mad: :D

Originally posted by Jono82
The Poll on Fifa2002.com

Which game is better? As of 3:26pm Adelaide (Australian Central Summer Time) on 9th Febuary 2002

Number of Votes: 3279

FIFA 2002: 1533 (47.62%) :D
PES (POS)*: 491 (15.25%)
Only Played FIFA 2002: 883 (27.43%)
Only Played ISS: 15 (0.47%)
Never heard of POS: 297 (9.23%)

They certainly speak for themselves don't they?! :D

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!

* POS = Piece of S*** :D

Oh my god, I thought people this gullible only existed in the movies!! :D You're not REALLY this dumb are you?

Yeah use ur brain....why would any pes player go into fifa2002.com?

Originally posted by Jono82
The Poll on Fifa2002.com

Which game is better? As of 3:26pm Adelaide (Australian Central Summer Time) on 9th Febuary 2002

Number of Votes: 3279

FIFA 2002: 1533 (47.62%) :D
PES (POS)*: 491 (15.25%)
Only Played FIFA 2002: 883 (27.43%)
Only Played ISS: 15 (0.47%)
Never heard of POS: 297 (9.23%)

They certainly speak for themselves don't they?! :D

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!

* POS = Piece of S*** :D

The figures just said that 1533 ppl are idiots and like to do ballet dancing (360 turn)

Originally posted by Yann


The figures just said that 1533 ppl are idiots and like to do ballet dancing (360 turn)

Oh no, not again. Another idiot who says there's 360 turns in FIFA 2002....:rolleyes: They never learn.

Jono82, you r tha man! :p

Originally posted by Jono82

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!


Want figures ? i'm gonna show you some figures then...and this time it's on a neutral site (why the hell pes players would go to fifa2002.com? huh)

from gamespot.co.uk :

Less predictable was Pro Evolution Soccer's third place overall, taking over ten percent of the vote while rival FIFA 2002 had to make do with less than one percent and a placing only just above PS2 newcomer This Is Football 2002. It's good to know it's not just the GameSpot UK office that's hopelessly addicted to Konami's kick about.

PES is in third place in the readers award at gamespot.co.uk behind gt3 and gta3 when fifa gets **** :p :p

http://extra.gamespot.co.uk/specials/2001/awards2002/ps2_results.html

what about that huh

As always, you're the man ZePenguin.

I agree with ZePenguin.
If you make a poll on the ISS/PES forum you get even higher percentages in favour of PES.
You simply can't make a proper, objective poll on a forum for FIFA-fans or a forum for PES-fans.
ZePenguin showed you a PROPER, OBJECTIVE stat.

both games are great ! fifa2002 for young people and PES for mature people. sure I bet there is some mature people. and if mature people got fifa2002 its not because they want to play it they want to edit kits faces makeup like women lol ... no almost kidding.

Originally posted by ZePenguin


Want figures ? i'm gonna show you some figures then...and this time it's on a neutral site (why the hell pes players would go to fifa2002.com? huh)

from gamespot.co.uk :



PES is in third place in the readers award at gamespot.co.uk behind gt3 and gta3 when fifa gets **** :p :p

http://extra.gamespot.co.uk/specials/2001/awards2002/ps2_results.html

what about that huh

And you call that a neutral site? It's a .CO.UK!!! C'mon Ze, I know you're not stupid, Europe is not the world. Well, maybe your world, but no the real one.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Carver


And you call that a neutral site? It's a .CO.UK!!! C'mon Ze, I know you're not stupid, Europe is not the world. Well, maybe your world, but no the real one.:rolleyes:

Oh yeah of course it's because it's a co.uk that only european visit that site ? LOL !!! nice try...anyway if THAT site ain't neutral...what is fifa2002.com then :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

you're pathetic by defending your curling game

THIS JUST IN!!!
poll from soccergaming.tv

People that think Jono82 is a complete moron %100 (10 votes)
People that think Jono82 has a brain %0 (0 votes)

you must be mentally ill

This thread is a riot.

Originally posted by Carver


And you call that a neutral site? It's a .CO.UK!!! C'mon Ze, I know you're not stupid, Europe is not the world. Well, maybe your world, but no the real one.:rolleyes:

Do yourself a big favor, Carver. Before you go talking sh*t, you should actually learn what the word "neutral" means.;)

Originally posted by LaBrujita
THIS JUST IN!!!
poll from soccergaming.tv

People that think Jono82 is a complete moron %100 (10 votes)
People that think Jono82 has a brain %0 (0 votes)

you must be mentally ill

LOL:D :D

"you're pathetic by defending your curling game"

Oh, boy, you ARE more than dumb indeed. That is SOOOO lame. I didn't think you would go as low as this but... Well, I guess all of your posts say it all. The figures speak for themselves: 4447 posts, each one making you more and more lame. :( :confused: :p

Originally posted by Carver
"you're pathetic by defending your curling game"

Oh, boy, you ARE more than dumb indeed. That is SOOOO lame. I didn't think you would go as low as this but... Well, I guess all of your posts say it all. The figures speak for themselves: 4447 posts, each one making you more and more lame. :( :confused: :p

You have a real problem with figures, I think you should just leave them alone before you hurt yourself...

Originally posted by Carver
[BWell, I guess all of your posts say it all. The figures speak for themselves: 4447 posts, each one making you more and more lame. [/B]

Well you can ask ANY respected member about what they think about me, and tell me who thinks i'm lame :p

I'm not in here to tell you which of the games are better, as it is basically up to each and everyone's subjective opinion.

Anyways, it seems to me that some (most, actually) of the people who says Fifa is better than PES/ISS haven't even tried the ISS games, while (most) people who prefer the ISS/PES games seems to have quite a lot of experience from Fifa games.

It's like saying you hate communism, even though you may not have the slightest clue of what communism really is.

Originally posted by AnaMorph0s|s
I'm not in here to tell you which of the games are better, as it is basically up to each and everyone's subjective opinion.

Anyways, it seems to me that some (most, actually) of the people who says Fifa is better than PES/ISS haven't even tried the ISS games, while (most) people who prefer the ISS/PES games seems to have quite a lot of experience from Fifa games.

It's like saying you hate communism, even though you may not have the slightest clue of what communism really is.
exactly, and there's one FACT that ends this entire debate in one sentence:
There are hundreds of fifa > iss converts, but there is no a single iss>fifa convert.

Go F yourself Carver

Originally posted by LaBrujita

exactly, and there's one FACT that ends this entire debate in one sentence:
There are hundreds of fifa > iss converts, but there is no a single iss>fifa convert.

Go F yourself Carver

That's the best insult your mommy taught you? Lame, very lame...:(

Originally posted by Carver


That's the best insult your mommy taught you? Lame, very lame...:(

Actually, what LaBrujita said makes perfect sense...

Originally posted by LaBrujita
THIS JUST IN!!!
poll from soccergaming.tv

People that think Jono82 is a complete moron %100 (10 votes)
People that think Jono82 has a brain %0 (0 votes)

you must be mentally ill

You should change it to

People who think Jono82 has a life: 10 votes

People who spend $499 on a playstation, $2,000 on a computer (how do you intend to use the net without a computer!), $90 on FIFA (for PS) and a further $75 for POS and therefore have nothing to do with their lives than compare 2 Games which are of the same theme!!!

and for the record... i do NOT own a PS... i hired one to see which game was better!! and concluded that POS was the ****tiest game ever!

any comebacks for that dickbrain?!

you got one more vote from me now, that makes 11-0

Originally posted by Jono82
The Poll on Fifa2002.com

Which game is better? As of 3:26pm Adelaide (Australian Central Summer Time) on 9th Febuary 2002

Number of Votes: 3279

FIFA 2002: 1533 (47.62%) :D
PES (POS)*: 491 (15.25%)
Only Played FIFA 2002: 883 (27.43%)
Only Played ISS: 15 (0.47%)
Never heard of POS: 297 (9.23%)

They certainly speak for themselves don't they?! :D

FIFA 2002 IS A BETTER GAME THAN PES!... just ask the 1533 ppl who voted for it!!!

* POS = Piece of S*** :D

This has to be a classic, this is probably why he bought Fifa instead of PES, going to a FIFA site to check out the ratings of another game. CLASSIC!!!!!



And you call that a neutral site? It's a .CO.UK!!! C'mon Ze, I know you're not stupid, Europe is not the world. Well, maybe your world, but no the real one.:rolleyes:

This has to be another classic, but not better than the first one :D

Little quote from a review of PES :

In terms of gameplay, nothing comes close to recreating every essence of football as this game. It’s perfect. Everything that’s in the game is, well, in the game....Choose FIFA over this and you deserve to be shot!

Actually, this link should've covered most angles:

Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/proevolutionsoccer).

Originally posted by ZePenguin


Well you can ask ANY respected member about what they think about me, and tell me who thinks i'm lame :p

I think your lame ZE LOL. Just kidding man. Couldn't resist though. What was the point to this thread anyway LOL. This argument has been done do death and I am not arguing about it anymore.

Originally posted by Carver


Oh no, not again. Another idiot who says there's 360 turns in FIFA 2002....:rolleyes: They never learn.

Jono82, you r tha man! :p

oh another idiot who like a crappy button mashing game :o
When they will learn..when there keyboard went down perhaps :confused:

Originally posted by Carver


That's the best insult your mommy taught you? Lame, very lame...:(


look as if that best insult that you are referring have made you speechless in order to get out such a lame reply to it :)

Originally posted by Yann


oh another idiot who like a crappy button mashing game :o
When they will learn..when there keyboard went down perhaps :confused:

Keyboard??? :confused: What an idiot! LOL. Keyboard... Go play with your childish tribe that can only afford a PS with pussy graphics.

Talking about someone childish, look how you act mister carver... You seem to me like a 10 year old boy who's told that his marbles aren't the best ones, and the only answer that he has is to insult and make fun of people without any reason nor justification :

1. "Keyboard??? What an idiot! LOL. Keyboard... " what's that supposed to mean ? Hell maybe you're playing with a gamepad what does it change ? the remark is still valuable, but maybe you're not smart enough to make the connection between the 2 ?!

2. Hey apparently you learned the word 'lame' the other day and now you're using it, great ! But before you do that you should also have learned its meaning...By doing this you'll find out that the definitions describes you exactly...Flaming people and insulting them because they don't have your opinions, that's really really childish and immature, even my little 8 year-old cousin understands that sometimes people have different thoughts and tastes than him, but apparently, you still haven't understand this fact, fascist people act like that; "you don't agree with me? then you're an idiot, i will kill you".
And, by the way, it seems like people who you are insulting are giving out very good justifications and reasons why one game is far better than the other one...But when i look upon your replies, you can't stop insulting people, making fun of them (btw those jokes only make laugh yourself, well that's cool it will bring a little light to your sad little life of immature teenager who can only liberates of his frustrations behinf his little computer screen where nobody can touch him...), etc...etc...


And finally what's that stuff about "your childish tribe that can only afford a PS with pussy graphics." ???

1. You should know that Pro Evolution Soccer is also for PS2, and if you'd be a little informed has excellent graphics (but who cares about graphics when a game is boring, this shows you how much you go deep to review a game : "it looks good, then it rocks" - "Oh it doesn't look as good as game A, then it sucks, now i'll make my crusade upon those who say game A isn't that good because i'm the superior being on Earth, nobody is right when he doesn't agree with me, ..." Let's make a little comparision with real life soccer, you would be the kind of fan who likes beckham, del piero etc... because they're cute, but you don't have a single idea of how they play..."they look good so they should also play well"

2. "Can only afford a PS" What ? you have something against poor people ? Did they do something to you ? Oh yes i forgot you're the superior being, you're god... But maybe you should think a little bit about those whose mommies and daddies can't give them money to buy them a computer ? What's wrong with them ? Yeah i know "they're poor, then they suck, they're idiots,...". And anyway be a bit logical, how would someone post a message on this messageboard without a computer ? Hum this seems a bit difficult to me don't you think ?


Now stop bashing and making fun of people who are smarter than you, and stop thinkng you're the supreme being...maybe you are in your room, maybe you're smarter than your hamster, but you should get out a bit and maybe playing a bit football (because you don't seem knowing much about that particular sport...).

What a fantastic argument laury17.

Just to get my 2 cents in, i thought I should say that;
I just sold me copy of FIFA 2002 and have been playing ISS PE on PS1 ever since. It's the BEST decision I ever made.

Sure, I'll download WC2002, just to see what rubbish EA try to pass off again. But then I'll laugh, delete it, and play ISS again.

Cheers.

And don't think that anything else has to be said after laury17's post, but just for the record Jono82 do u really mean what u say? R u drunk? :confused:
I find a bit hard to believe that people like u actually exists!!! :mad:
Do u and us all a favor: stop posting unless u have something usefull to say, i mean....what a f***!?

Originally posted by laury17
Talking about someone childish, look how you act mister carver... You seem to me like a 10 year old boy who's told that his marbles aren't the best ones, and the only answer that he has is to insult and make fun of people without any reason nor justification :

1. "Keyboard??? What an idiot! LOL. Keyboard... " what's that supposed to mean ? Hell maybe you're playing with a gamepad what does it change ? the remark is still valuable, but maybe you're not smart enough to make the connection between the 2 ?!

2. Hey apparently you learned the word 'lame' the other day and now you're using it, great ! But before you do that you should also have learned its meaning...By doing this you'll find out that the definitions describes you exactly...Flaming people and insulting them because they don't have your opinions, that's really really childish and immature, even my little 8 year-old cousin understands that sometimes people have different thoughts and tastes than him, but apparently, you still haven't understand this fact, fascist people act like that; "you don't agree with me? then you're an idiot, i will kill you".
And, by the way, it seems like people who you are insulting are giving out very good justifications and reasons why one game is far better than the other one...But when i look upon your replies, you can't stop insulting people, making fun of them (btw those jokes only make laugh yourself, well that's cool it will bring a little light to your sad little life of immature teenager who can only liberates of his frustrations behinf his little computer screen where nobody can touch him...), etc...etc...


And finally what's that stuff about "your childish tribe that can only afford a PS with pussy graphics." ???

1. You should know that Pro Evolution Soccer is also for PS2, and if you'd be a little informed has excellent graphics (but who cares about graphics when a game is boring, this shows you how much you go deep to review a game : "it looks good, then it rocks" - "Oh it doesn't look as good as game A, then it sucks, now i'll make my crusade upon those who say game A isn't that good because i'm the superior being on Earth, nobody is right when he doesn't agree with me, ..." Let's make a little comparision with real life soccer, you would be the kind of fan who likes beckham, del piero etc... because they're cute, but you don't have a single idea of how they play..."they look good so they should also play well"

2. "Can only afford a PS" What ? you have something against poor people ? Did they do something to you ? Oh yes i forgot you're the superior being, you're god... But maybe you should think a little bit about those whose mommies and daddies can't give them money to buy them a computer ? What's wrong with them ? Yeah i know "they're poor, then they suck, they're idiots,...". And anyway be a bit logical, how would someone post a message on this messageboard without a computer ? Hum this seems a bit difficult to me don't you think ?


Now stop bashing and making fun of people who are smarter than you, and stop thinkng you're the supreme being...maybe you are in your room, maybe you're smarter than your hamster, but you should get out a bit and maybe playing a bit football (because you don't seem knowing much about that particular sport...).

:p U make me laugh. But I don't have time to consider your being. Get a life, I mean, do it for yourself mate, that's my little piece of advice.
And yes, I am superior... Well, at least I have a life. :rolleyes: Don't have time, I have to enjoy it, sorry u can't do that. See ya LaurIE. :crazyboy:

"the only answer that he has is to insult and make fun of people without any reason nor justification :"

Originally posted by Yann


oh another idiot who like a crappy button mashing game.

You're right, I am definitely superior...

;)

reinforcements have arrived!
here comes the 101st airborne PES division!
we supply some .50 cal full metal jacket ammunition to ZePenguin, Bertkamp, LaBrujita and everybody else who loves PES.

ALL YOU DAMN FIFA F*GGOTS YOU BETTER SHUT THE F'UCK UP!
KCET RULEZ!
ALL YOU FIFA FANS RIDE ON EA'S DICK!
AND EVERY NEW FIFA EDITION IS LIKE A FAT BAIL FROM EA DIRECTLY IN ALL YA FACES!
MUHAHAHA!!!!

This is the funniest thread of all time.......

Only problem - there's no point accusing Italians of acting like fascists. Quite a lot of Italians actually are fascists, and perfectly happy about it, so they wouldn't take offence, would they?

Originally posted by MisterX_K
reinforcements have arrived!
here comes the 101st airborne PES division!
we supply some .50 cal full metal jacket ammunition to ZePenguin, Bertkamp, LaBrujita and everybody else who loves PES.

ALL YOU DAMN FIFA F*GGOTS YOU BETTER SHUT THE F'UCK UP!
KCET RULEZ!
ALL YOU FIFA FANS RIDE ON EA'S DICK!
AND EVERY NEW FIFA EDITION IS LIKE A FAT BAIL FROM EA DIRECTLY IN ALL YA FACES!
MUHAHAHA!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!! Now this is some funny sh*t!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MisterX_K
reinforcements have arrived!
here comes the 101st airborne PES division!
we supply some .50 cal full metal jacket ammunition to ZePenguin, Bertkamp, LaBrujita and everybody else who loves PES.

ALL YOU DAMN FIFA F*GGOTS YOU BETTER SHUT THE F'UCK UP!
KCET RULEZ!
ALL YOU FIFA FANS RIDE ON EA'S DICK!
AND EVERY NEW FIFA EDITION IS LIKE A FAT BAIL FROM EA DIRECTLY IN ALL YA FACES!
MUHAHAHA!!!! [/QUOTE

]Me love ISSPE2 can i have some ammnunition pleaseeeeee

I don't want to sound disrespectful to all of you, but what's the point of this argument? If you have a friend that says that "Chuckie Egg" was the best game they've ever played, do you all give him the fist just because you love "lemmings"?

In my opinion, this is all a matter of personal likings. Some prefer realistic gameplay, others want to see good graphics mixed with real players' names.
Personally, I avoid imposing my tastes to others. It saves me from stupid confrontations that will have no other result than everybody sticking even tighter to their previous opinions and, of course, a small headache. Besides, there is always a tendency for the immature minds to start insulting dissonant opinions and now that is truly LAME!

Peace. ;)

Originally posted by INFESTA
I don't want to sound disrespectful to all of you, but what's the point of this argument? If you have a friend that says that "Chuckie Egg" was the best game they've ever played, do you all give him the fist just because you love "lemmings"?

In my opinion, this is all a matter of personal likings. Some prefer realistic gameplay, others want to see good graphics mixed with real players' names.
Personally, I avoid imposing my tastes to others. It saves me from stupid confrontations that will have no other result than everybody sticking even tighter to their previous opinions and, of course, a small headache. Besides, there is always a tendency for the immature minds to start insulting dissonant opinions and now that is truly LAME!

Peace. ;)

Don't go getting all condescending on us, Infesta. Personally, I don't take anything that goes on in this ISS vs. FIFA forum very seriously. I just consider it a fun rivalry between the ISS and FIFA camps. They like to bust our balls, we like to bust their balls and that's that. No (permanent) harm intended! I can see where you're coming from though, Infesta. You make a valid point as well.:)

One comment for Carver:
GET
A
LIFE
LOSER!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by bertkamp16

Personally, I don't take anything that goes on in this ISS vs. FIFA forum very seriously. I just consider it a fun rivalry between the ISS and FIFA camps. They like to bust our balls, we like to bust their balls and that's that. No (permanent) harm intended!

You don't (and you're smart by acting like that) but apparently others do. When I get complaints about some members' behaviour I should take them seriously. Besides, this is already way out of hand. Although I don't see the point of having this discussion, there's nothing wrong with it, of course. :) However, this
U make me laugh. But I don't have time to consider your being. Get a life, I mean, do it for yourself mate, that's my little piece of advice. doesn't seem like a FIFAvsISS argument to me.

And Carver, please get your act together. Can't you see that by insulting someone you only get everybody's disapproval? How can you be surprised if you get the feeling that others "hate you"?

Originally posted by INFESTA


You don't (and you're smart by acting like that) but apparently others do. When I get complaints about some members' behaviour I should take them seriously. Besides, this is already way out of hand. Although I don't see the point of having this discussion, there's nothing wrong with it, of course. :) However, this
doesn't seem like a FIFAvsISS argument to me.

And Carver, please get your act together. Can't you see that by insulting someone you only get everybody's disapproval? How can you be surprised if you get the feeling that others "hate you"?

I see what u mean Infesta...